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Friday, June 02, 2017

Soiled! Soiled, I say!

George Will's bow tie is aflutter with indignation at the rise of the vulgarians:
In 1950, the year before William F. Buckley burst into the national conversation, the literary critic Lionel Trilling revealed why the nation was ripe for Buckley’s high-spirited romp through its political and cultural controversies. Liberalism, Trilling declared, was “not only the dominant but even the sole intellectual tradition” in mid-century America because conservatism was expressed merely in “irritable mental gestures.” Buckley would change that by infusing conservatism with brio, bringing elegance to its advocacy and altering the nation’s trajectory while having a grand time.

Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients. America needs a reminder of conservatism before vulgarians hijacked it, and a hint of how it became susceptible to hijacking....

Buckley famously said he would rather be governed by the first 2,000 names in the Boston telephone directory than by Harvard’s faculty, but he briskly defended the Council on Foreign Relations from “those American right-wingers who specialize in ignorance.”
When the Alt-Right comes to power, one of its first acts should be to dig up the corpse of William F. Buckley and burn it. He was, without question, a significant part of the problem; he was no true soldier of the Right, but rather, the treacherous captain of the Left's Cuckservative Guard.

As for George Will, I've only got one thing to say: your day is done. We have moved beyond you, not just politically, but intellectually. We may be vulgar, we may be impolite and declasse, but we are considerably smarter and more perceptive than you are.

And we're not soiling conservativism. We're rejecting it for the useless defensive and defeatist bullshit that it has always been.

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Anonymous Looking Glass June 02, 2017 12:03 PM  

I think, for reaching back deep into intellectual roots, one should call out some of our shared traditions with the British.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJYN-eG1zk

Queen - We Will Rock You

Because, when in Rome, act like the Visigoths.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 02, 2017 12:04 PM  

My God. Reading that excerpt from George Will makes me want to start stabbing. It reminds me of John Lithgow and Jon Lovitz in SNL as Baudelaire and his buddy.

Blogger Mama Pepe June 02, 2017 12:05 PM  

I knew we should have included a pic of George Will in the slideshow...

https://youtu.be/0FLVU8Fqtn8

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 02, 2017 12:07 PM  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOWRVyq9USg

Anonymous trev006 June 02, 2017 12:08 PM  

Is... he joking? For a column dedicated to providing conservatism with "mental ingredients" the only ideological position listed is Buckley being pro-NAFTA. Other than that, the history of his life is credentials- honor guard to Roosevelt's casket, friend of Senator Moynihan. And even that is tolerable compared to the listing of attributes- no one, least of all the modern Alt-Right, cares that Bill Buckley was optimistic and cultured. After a full life, if you can't point to actual accomplishments then you don't have much to be optimistic about.

Anonymous TheSmokingMan#3424 June 02, 2017 12:11 PM  

I like the optics of this. What better way to put the post-birch party to bed. Anyone else we should dig up and burn in effigy while we're at it?

Blogger Shane Sullivan June 02, 2017 12:12 PM  

It's amazing how willfully blind these moderates are. They keep yearning for that wonderful middle ground to do battle, while failing to realize that we're no longer fighting Frederician warfare, but the much more chaotic 4GW.

Anonymous Jim Scrummy June 02, 2017 12:15 PM  

I thought George Will was a baseball writer? Who knew he still writes about politics at Jeff Bezo's bleg? I guess Georgie and other "Conservatives" do not realize, that "Conservatism" is dead. Dead, dead, dead, thankfully.

Blogger RC June 02, 2017 12:16 PM  

I am so very embarrassed that I once thought George Will was on my side.

Anonymous Hammerman June 02, 2017 12:17 PM  

Buckley was a spineless douche who attacked anyone to the right of him. George Will is the news networks pet conservative that they trot out to spout the doctrine of muh freemarket.

Blogger J. T. K. June 02, 2017 12:19 PM  

You all know Zman from the Z blog? He was on a podcast recently. He mentioned that a friend of his used to sit in an expensive skybox for baseball games and a frequent visitor to the skybox was George Will. This friend reported that George is nothing but a goldplated phony. He believes nearly nothing of what he writes. Listen for yourself; google the Two Kevins podcast. I believe it is podcast number 78.

Blogger BassmanCO June 02, 2017 12:21 PM  

Made the mistake of going to the column and perusing the comments. The lack of awareness and critical thinking in this country is astounding.

Blogger michaeloh59 June 02, 2017 12:25 PM  

Vox I'm not sure it's fair to retcon the latter life Cuckley with the younger, more vigorous version. For example, National Review opposed major Civil Rights legislation and defended South Africa as defending "civilization". My suspicion is that reading through 50s and 60s era NR would read, on topics of race and identity, much like a more snooty, Eastern Vox Day.

"[Arch-conservative Senator Barry] Goldwater's views were echoed by the editors of National Review, who from the inception of the magazine in 1955 opposed federal involvement in enforcing equal access to public accommodations and protecting black voting rights in the South. They based their opposition on constitutional grounds and conservative resistance to radical social change. However principled their justifications, their rhetoric overstepped the bounds of civility and was racially offensive. In a March 1960 unsigned editorial, National Review declared, "We offer the following on the crisis in the Senate and the South: In the Deep South the Negroes are, by comparison with the Whites, retarded" ('unadvanced' the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People might put it) ... Leadership in the South, then quite properly rests in White hands. Upon the White population this fact imposes moral obligations of paternalism, patience, protection, devotion, and sacrifice." The editorial added that "the attempt to hand over to the Negro the raw political power with which to alter it is hardly a solution. It is a call to upheaval, which ensues when reality and unbridled abstractions meet head-on." [Donald Critchlow, The Conservative Ascendency, pp 73-74] "

And in terms of George Will, no one better embodies your explanation for the utter uselessness of Conservatives than does Mr Will. Makes me a bit sad. Then I go watch a YouTube of Nazifa getting punked and I feel all better. BTW Nazifa and perhaps some far more formidable haters like the Nation of Islam will be spreading hate in Houston June 10. Finally, I get a chance to let these bigots know what I think in person. I am sure that many, many other Texas Based Gringoes will show up, batting helmet ready.

Blogger CJ June 02, 2017 12:27 PM  

#11 JTK

I find that totally believable. I don't know Will personally or know anybody who does, but he has always struck me as somebody who's just doing a schtick.

Anonymous WinstonWebb June 02, 2017 12:32 PM  

I don't know Will personally or know anybody who does, but he has always struck me as somebody who's just doing a schtick.

I've always thought likewise about the Wheelchair Jew.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 02, 2017 12:34 PM  

It seems too simple, not to mention too silly, but they really are Judge Smails seeing Al Czervik grooving on the golf course they thought was exclusive.

Blogger praetorian June 02, 2017 12:35 PM  

In 1950, the year before William F. Buckley burst into the national conversation, the literary critic Lionel Trilling revealed why the nation was ripe for Buckley’s high-spirited romp through its political and cultural controversies.

And how dd that high-spirited romp end? With transgendered bathrooms being mobbed by mestizos.

At least we have the constitution!

Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients.

Well, don't want to sound like a dick or nothin', but, it says on your chart that you're fucked up. See, you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

Don't worry tho Willy. There are plenty of 'tards out there living really kick-ass lives. My first wife was 'tarded. She writes for buzzfeed now.

Blogger lowercaseb June 02, 2017 12:36 PM  

Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients. America needs a reminder of conservatism before vulgarians hijacked it...

Politics aside, who the hell writes like this? This reads like the first draft of a Simpson's parody.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 02, 2017 12:36 PM  

Exactly.

"Your father and I prepped together, we went to war together, we did business together"

"My father never liked you..."

Anonymous rienzi June 02, 2017 12:38 PM  

Will used to be one of the drum majors out in front of the conservative marching band. Blowing his whistle and pumping his baton up and down, he was Mr. Important.

Then the whole band took a right turn at the last intersection, leaving George Will marching all alone down the street. Still convinced he is leading the band, but increasingly just a pitiful figure of fun to anyone who bothers to look.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 02, 2017 12:44 PM  

America needs a reminder of conservatism before vulgarians hijacked it,

Really? People honestly can't remember 3 years ago? I do, it was when all the cucks were running around saying they couldn't do anything about Obama. It was when the cucks were trying to work with Obama by passing his laws and approving his appointments. It was when all that was offered was excuse after excuse about why the cucks couldn't advance the agenda of the right. That most certainly was not a time anyone on the right should want to return to. Your movement is over. It failed because all you cared about was posing as the "intellectual". We neither want nor need you or your ideas.

Blogger michaeloh59 June 02, 2017 12:48 PM  

"Then the whole band took a right turn at the last intersection, leaving George Will marching all alone down the street. Still convinced he is leading the band, but increasingly just a pitiful figure of fun to anyone "

Not quite alone. The neo-cons are still blowing their whistles, barking their orders, and wondering why the goyim no longer obey.

Blogger Robert Divinity June 02, 2017 12:49 PM  

If I were a religious person, I would point out that Cuckley's soul surely is burning already.

As for the Bow Tie Brigands, the market for their grotesque visages and platitudinous banalities grows smaller each day. When a pencil neck such as Will writes " a hint of how it became susceptible to hijacking....," it translates into a simple "look at me! I'm still important."

Will and Co. have about as much relevance to contemporary American politics as the lobbying arm of Woodsmen of the World. They will die without notice.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 02, 2017 12:52 PM  

If we had better manners, perhaps we'd continue to respect those elders like Will and Buckley for the good effort they put forth in the ancient past, overlooking how badly they screwed things up in the long run.

Thank God we're primitive vulgarians.

Blogger Joshua_D June 02, 2017 12:52 PM  

I'M JUST SURPRISED OLD GEORGE DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND CALL US DEPLORABLES.

Blogger red clock June 02, 2017 12:54 PM  

I can never take these people seriously when they complain about 'primitives' while their number one priority remains importing (and siding with) hundreds of millions of high-fertility primitives and outright savages to the West. Primitives who wear dirty burqas and ugly beards, who explode every week, who practice gang-rapes with their families, whose IQs are incredibly low, who fill the prisons and have created dystopias in their own countries.

These 'elites' have no right to complain about 'primitives.'

Anonymous CarpeOro June 02, 2017 12:54 PM  

I lost what little interest I had left in Will when I found him shilling for some Republican presidential candidate and heard he hadn't bothered to mention his wife worked for them. Yeah, at one time I thought he had some chili. But then, I was raised in a solid Democrat household by a public teacher. Newsweek was the weekly and Will was as far right as they ever got.

Blogger Dedd Sirius June 02, 2017 1:03 PM  

The phrases "spirited romp" and "grand time" evokes images like the current memes mocking men's romper suits, and I imagined Will and Buckley decked out in plaid rompers dry-humping each other's thighs and chortling with ruddy-cheecqued country-club glee.

Makes me sick.

Blogger Glenn Phillips June 02, 2017 1:03 PM  

When the Alt-Right comes to power, one of its first acts should be to dig up the corpse of William F. Buckley and burn it.

The good news is George Will is still alive.

Blogger tuberman June 02, 2017 1:06 PM  

George, the only Will you have is your Traitorous investment in Uniparty Globalism.

Traitors Will someday be treated as Traitors should.

Blogger Hauen Holzwanderer June 02, 2017 1:09 PM  

I'd advise George Will to take the advice of his physical (and most likely political) twin, Mark Mothersbaugh. Crack that whip, give the past the slip...whip it, and whip it good. Oh yeah, and STFU with all the baseball crap, it died with Ted Williams.

Anonymous Gingas June 02, 2017 1:10 PM  

William Frank Cuckley was buried at the Saint Bernard Cemetery in Sharon, Connecticut.

https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=24915565

Blogger michaeloh59 June 02, 2017 1:11 PM  

Just to illustrate my assertion that the early Buckley/NR was simply not the same creature as the latter, sharing only the name, here's a quote from NR on the anniversary of some civil rights legislation in 2013:
Too many conservatives and libertarians, including the editors of this magazine, missed all of this at the time. They worried about the effects of the civil-rights movement on federalism and limited government. Those principles weren't wrong, exactly; they were tragically misapplied, given the moral and historical context. It is a mark of the success of King's movement that almost all Americans can now see its necessity.

So you see, the immoral anti-white project of anti-racism which the early and virtuous NR fought against was actually 'Conservative' all along. That's not evolution, that's changing sides. The young Buckley fought the left with every word. The latter Cuckley surrendered to their victory and paid the Danegeld, and was tolerated as a tamed pet.

The young ZFG Buckley is still an inspiration. The old Cuckley is an object lesson in the dangers of old age, soft pillows and low testosterone. There may be a reason why men used to die so young. Before they became less than men.

Blogger tuberman June 02, 2017 1:12 PM  

I just want to make it clear, George Will is not just a Cuck, he is a Parasite on the USA's culture, and he makes his gravy train money by stabbing real Americans in the back.

A TRAITOR!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 02, 2017 1:18 PM  

Will's job is to legitimize the Left while making a load of money

Blogger Hauen Holzwanderer June 02, 2017 1:19 PM  

Reminds me of the mental and verbal gymnastics the postmodern deconstructionists in postwar France would go through to prove that their Vichy-regime nazi bootlicking was really noble resistance.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 02, 2017 1:20 PM  

Fake British accents and bowties. These people reached the level of self-parody decades ago.

Blogger EscapeVelocity June 02, 2017 1:22 PM  

The Apt Right is actually having fun, "romping through the political and cultural controversies."

Cuckservatism is for sad sack losers with no hope.

Anonymous PAC June 02, 2017 1:22 PM  

Snobbery is all conservatism ever was.

Which, in an American context, is laughably ridiculous.

You need at least a defunct aristocratic order and high culture to hearken back to in order to pull off snobbery.

Cf. Buckley--who didn't have more than a couple of ideas in his entire life, but whose every turgid column vomited out the last ten words he'd found in his thesaurus.

Blogger Rabbi B June 02, 2017 1:25 PM  

@7 Shane Sullivan

It's amazing how willfully blind these moderates are. They keep yearning for that wonderful middle ground to do battle...

Exactly. And it is the truth is trampled to the ground in the process.

Today we are told that we must be “accommodating” if we are going to remain relevant, that the truth is found in the so-called “middle-course.”

I have news for us, it is falsehood that is found in the middle-course, simply because the truth is precise; the truth is unequivocal; and the truth is too sacred to be bargained with or compromised.

We are admonished by so-called moderates, who advocate a middle course, that it is important to remain “impartial” which simply means the truth is of no real concern of ours and that we must never object to anything.

We are admonished to be neutral on all questions and express only words of approval for everything and everyone: for those on the right, those on the left; for the true and for the false. And, what is more, we must be sure to select only that kernel of truth which we know is acceptable to everyone, specifically that kernel of truth which we know will bother and disturb no one.

In short, truth must be sifted through the filter of moderation in order to achieve a peace which is anything but peace.

Here's the question: Is moderation so important that the only truth we desire is that which is compatible with everything else in our lives? In other words, would you bow only before that truth which has first bowed before you?

No thanks. It's time to break up the fallow ground and get to work.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 02, 2017 1:25 PM  

Iowahawk did a brilliant job satirizing these sort of conservatives.

http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2011/10/together-i-shall-ride-you-to-victory.html

Blogger Weouro June 02, 2017 1:27 PM  

Thats "consertvatism" 101, a sentimental attachment to the recent past. If consrvatism meant anything, republicans would still be opposed to female suffrage.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker June 02, 2017 1:28 PM  

Say goodnight George! As if we needed any further confirmation that major change is happening on the American Right...

Blogger pyrrhus June 02, 2017 1:28 PM  

Buckley was CIA, and founded NR in part with CIA money....George Will opposed both Reagan and Trump....They were the problem, cuckservatives to the hilt.

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Blogger pyrrhus June 02, 2017 1:31 PM  

Has there ever been a public figure who wore bowties who was worth anything, LOL?

Blogger Chris McCullough June 02, 2017 1:31 PM  

Vulgarians sounds like the name of a mighty warrior race.

Blogger Ceasar June 02, 2017 1:31 PM  

The George Will article template:

-History/Figure as he wants to remember it/them

-Inane proclamation based of said History/Figure

-Conclude with History/Figure agrees with George Will

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2017 1:37 PM  

Article archived at archive.is: http://archive.is/7oO7r

So you don't have to give the Post any clicks.

Anonymous Jeff June 02, 2017 1:38 PM  

Good day, George Will.

I said good day, sir!

Blogger tz June 02, 2017 1:39 PM  

Standing athwart history yelling "you really need to stop this time!".
Not just burn Buckley, but scatter his ashes across at least a dozen toxic and nuclear sites. Or lay them at the feet of Pat Buchanan saying he urned it.

America needs a reminder of conservatism before vulgarians hijacked it, and a hint of how it became susceptible to hijacking.

I need no reminder. At best it was ineffectual posturing like an uber driver standing outside the car constantly failing to decide the best route to the destination. Since the keys were inside, we decided as the sun was getting low to "hijack" the car and drive it to our westward destination. It was subseptible to hijacking because you left the keys in to appear serious about getting somewhere but never actually got there (or the detour took us further east).

Blogger TontoBubbaGoldstein June 02, 2017 1:41 PM  

Tucker Carlson.

Anonymous DissidentRight June 02, 2017 1:41 PM  

one of its first acts should be to dig up the corpse of William F. Buckley and burn it

Every traitor. KILL HERESY WITH FIRE.

If traitors knew that death was no escape, perhaps they would think twice.

So many of the ancients' practices are beginning to make sense. I'm not saying traitors' entire families should be wiped out...but...I get it. Cucking is a lot easier to justify if the consequences end with your death.

OpenID doktorjeep June 02, 2017 1:43 PM  

We are "vulgar" because we are dealing with vulgarity to the point of violence.


And "hijacked". More like found it abandoned and wrecked and somehow got it running again.

Anonymous Orville June 02, 2017 1:44 PM  

Will and Cuckley are Wodehousian twits. "Jeeves, I've soiled myself again reading of these deplorable alt-righters! Have my undergarments boiled and starched by tea time."

Blogger Achilles June 02, 2017 1:44 PM  

Losing with brio. Brought to you by Buckley's moldering corpse.

Blogger Nick S June 02, 2017 1:44 PM  

Has there ever been a public figure who wore bowties who was worth anything, LOL?

Orville Redenbacher.

Blogger tz June 02, 2017 1:46 PM  

If Buckley managed to escape Hell and is merely going to be in Purgatory, is there some kind of prayer for the dead or anti-indulgence that will keep him there at a lower level until the end of time?

I know the origin of cuckservative is the old english, not the porn, but George Will has elevated the cuckery to a high art in the sense of that kind of porn or other "modern" art like a multimedia experience that you think is a horrible car wreck with shrieking metal tearing sounds, then realize it is an art piece.

Blogger Hauen Holzwanderer June 02, 2017 1:47 PM  

Exodus 34:6-7 springs to mind.

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2017 1:50 PM  

> Who knew he still writes about politics at Jeff Bezo's bleg?

Where else would he write? It's not like anyone who wants us to win would bother giving him a platform.

> I'M JUST SURPRISED OLD GEORGE DIDN'T COME OUT OF THE CLOSET AND CALL US DEPLORABLES.

You don't think he considers "primitives" and "vulgarians" deplorable?

Anonymous Rather, Not June 02, 2017 1:50 PM  

Vox, do we have to burn Cuckley's corpse right away? Do we have time for me to pry his corpse cuck mouth open and take a dump right in it, and then piss on his face before we burn him? I don't want my crapping and pissing on his traitorous corpse to work against the cleansing fire.

Blogger tz June 02, 2017 1:51 PM  

I keep coming back to SCTV's Philosophy Street (the opening is finished at 2:30 to the end).
Existentialism indeed.

Anonymous Rather, Not June 02, 2017 1:52 PM  

Also, willing to do the same to George Will, living or dead.

Blogger tz June 02, 2017 1:53 PM  

Will is getting on in years, so I wonder if "Soiled" might have a meaning that "Depends"...

Blogger Chiva June 02, 2017 1:54 PM  

"conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients."

I rather be a results oriented scowling primitive than a do nothing bow-tie wearing cuck.

Anonymous Iacobus June 02, 2017 1:57 PM  

Like with SJWs, you know you're doing something right when you trigger cucks like Will. Don't ever stop. Pound them mercilessly.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents June 02, 2017 2:00 PM  

George Will had a pretty good scam going back in the 20th century. He dressed like a professor from an old movie, spoke in careful tones, got to go on TV a lot and to the right cocktail parties. Sold plenty of books to Boomers. All he had to do was be a member of the Washington Generals and lose gracefully.

Sure he's upset. His whole raison d'etre is vaporizing in front of his eyes like water off of a hot pavement. Plus those noisy alt-Right kids keep sneaking frogs into his yard at night.

George Will to the alt-Right: Get off my lawn!.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents June 02, 2017 2:02 PM  

Old man yells at cloud

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 02, 2017 2:04 PM  

Pssst!

Hey, George?

We. Don't. Care.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 02, 2017 2:05 PM  

George Will basks in the smug satisfaction of having his hands clean as he watches his nation burn. What a useless cuck.

OpenID paworldandtimes June 02, 2017 2:25 PM  

Kramer: "Hmm. Yeah. I'll tell you who is an attractive man: George Will."

Jerry: "Really?"

Kramer: "Yeah. He has clean looks, scrubbed and shampooed and... "

Elaine: "He's smart."

Kramer: "No, no, I don't find him all that bright."

PA

Blogger ZhukovG June 02, 2017 2:28 PM  

The train of history never stops. All that matters is who drives it.

Anonymous BBGKB June 02, 2017 2:29 PM  

And how dd that high-spirited romp end? With transgendered bathrooms being mobbed by mestizos.

How do you tell the difference between a Puerto Rican mustached woman and a bad tranny? Perhaps a 10,000 word Cuckservative esse would help.

3 years ago? I do, it was when all the cucks were running around saying they couldn't do anything about Obama

What do you mean 3 years ago, the Cucks were just telling TRUMP to make a deal with Ginsberg to appoint Obama's jew pick if she retired.

. The old Cuckley is an object lesson in the dangers of old age, soft pillows and low testosterone

The pillows got soft from him biting them

And "hijacked". More like found it abandoned and wrecked and somehow got it running again

Not only that but we converted it to run on biodiesel and liberal lard!!

Blogger Dos Voltz June 02, 2017 2:37 PM  

Know who else was vulgar?

Leonidas.

Dude got shit DONE!

Blogger Sentient Spud June 02, 2017 2:38 PM  

George Will, elegant: "Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients."

Alt-Right, barbarian: "Our opponents are morons."

For a bunch of sophisticated, civilized folk, these Buckley conservative types do seem to have a tremendously difficult time connecting the dots that exist between the declining quality of American education and the increasing ineffectiveness of their syllable-laden presentation style.

I bet he has a collection of fountain pens.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass June 02, 2017 2:42 PM  

"defeatist bullshit" yep.

Will was a neverer Trumper. We don't forget. We don't forget you and others saying we can't oppose Barry because #racist.

Any good Buckley did was cancelled out and obliterated by what he did later. NAFTA? Yeah, that worked out well. /sarc

Protecting the CFR from the ignorant. The CFR needs to be destroyed.

Buckley was a loser and deserves his legacy to be memory holed.

Don't worry George. We'll drink your tears.

Blogger Paul Sacramento June 02, 2017 2:45 PM  

If you write smart,people will thing you are smart and won't question you.
or at least such was the case in year gone by.
Doesn't work like that anymore.

Substance over style.

Right we we have both sides really and they both are better:
Intelligent and vulgar: Milo
Intelligent and not-vulgar: Ben Shapiro

To name just two that everyone should know.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt June 02, 2017 2:47 PM  

Will is supposed to be such a fan of baseball. There wouldn't BE any professional baseball if the team owners held his disdainful attitude toward the commoners who buy the tickets and sit in the stands. What country does he think he's living in? America has ALWAYS been about plain, normal people, with their plain, normal tastes, leading their plain, normal lives. Being "cultivated" was never a requirement for participation in American life. Will's screed sounds like something out of a 1920s novel.

Blogger seeingsights June 02, 2017 2:47 PM  

Will is a never Trumper. In 2016 I think he wrote more anti-Trump opinion pieces than anti-Hillary pieces. If George Will would have said something like "I support Trump because he is the least worst alternative" then I would respect that pragmatic view.
George Will writes a lot of words advocating a conservative judicial philosophy. Yet his stance on Trump would have meant liberal judges appointed for the next 4 and perhaps 8 years. Trump got Gosuch to the Supreme Court. Gosuch is the type of judge which George Will should jump up and down with joy. I haven't seen Will saying anything about Trump's judicial nominations though.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 02, 2017 2:53 PM  

@77: "We" have Ben Shapiro on our side? Who you callin' "we," Kemosabe?

Blogger Wanda Sherratt June 02, 2017 3:02 PM  

"Has there ever been a public figure who wore bowties who was worth anything, LOL?"

Professor Irwin Corey? Now that I think of it, it's getting hard to tell him and George Will apart.

Blogger Nate June 02, 2017 3:05 PM  

we've come far to far to conserve anything. Even as a teenager I said I was not a conservative. I considered myself a right wing radical. Because when things have been radically changed to the left... it takes a radical move to the right to get it back to where it belonged.

Blogger Culture War Draftee June 02, 2017 3:06 PM  

OT, but amusing: A lawyer from New York is filing suit against the Alamo Drafthouse for its women-only showing of Wonder Woman. Maybe the progtards can get their all-gender inclusive showing catered by a Christian bakery. Lol.

http://www.statesman.com/news/local-govt--politics/new-details-attorney-filing-complaint-over-theater-female-only-wonder-woman-shows/hAX7Nc8tajzxYtzSPPJ5vI/

Blogger SamuraiJack June 02, 2017 3:20 PM  

Old georgie has a sad! His fefes are hurt by the meanies. irrelevant boomer fag, we don't care!

Blogger VFM #7634 June 02, 2017 3:20 PM  

When the Alt-Right comes to power, one of its first acts should be to dig up the corpse of William F. Buckley and burn it.

I'm not sure what makes more of a statement, doing that or dubbing him "William F. Cuckley", forever.

Regardless, the latter is a lot easier.

Blogger Quilp June 02, 2017 3:25 PM  

I can't even read Will any longer. His tired formula of complaining about something to do with the right, then using some obscure historical event to explain his rant as correct, was exhausted decades ago. I stopped paying any attention to what he had to say back when David Brinkley was still holding court for Archer Daniels Midland Sunday show.

Blogger tublecane June 02, 2017 3:30 PM  

Buckley was dishonest. I once found him captivating and entertaining, if not terribly profound. But it required digging a few books deep to get what he was about. God and Man at Yale, my first, hit an easy target. And even then, it was mild. The Unmaking of a Mayor was funny, though I now realize the entire affair was masturbatory and not nearly as troll-worthy as it should have been.

Then I read Up from Liberalism, and encountered strange ideas like we shouldn't criticise social security even though it's a scam and doomed to failure. Huh? Why not? I wasn't told, exactly, except that it was popular. But so's the whole Gibsmedat Empire, at least to its beneficiaries. Are we to hold off criticizing the entire welfare state? Yes, apparently.

Years later, I found out that Buckley had explicitly stated the New Right was a compromise with New Deal Liberalism: we accept the welfare state, and in exchange the left and right fight the International Communist Conspiracy together. Which was supposed to be worth it, because Russia posed an existential threat, or whatever. So it was socialism "for the duration."

I never agreed to that bargain. I never even knew that bargain had been struck until years into thinking of myself at least provisionally as "conservative." I don't accept it.

After all, the duration has expired and the welfare state is still here, isn't it?

Anonymous George of the Jungle June 02, 2017 3:31 PM  

Today, conservatism is soiled by scowling primitives whose irritable gestures lack mental ingredients.

"I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries.”

Blogger Weouro June 02, 2017 3:46 PM  

The worrying part is that as enjoyable as it is that Trump got elected, this still is part of the ebb and flow of liberalism, its inexorably two steps left, one step right(citation Zippy: .https://zippycatholic.wordpress.com/2016/10/31/meet-the-new-cuck-same-as-the-old-cuck/ They went too far with Obama so now Trump is here to iron things out a little and dial some stuff back, but not everything.

Anonymous Joe Blowe June 02, 2017 3:47 PM  

The flaccid opposition to the Civil Rights psyop against Western, i.e. White, Civilization by Bill "Yale/Skull&Bones/CIA" Buckley was merely done to attain street cred with the Normies so he could fulfill his main mission of steering the Normie Right away from John Birch nationalism and toward CFR Globalism. A pied piper has to play a tune that is pleasing to his target audience.

Blogger cheddarman June 02, 2017 4:01 PM  

George will is a soiled tampon

Blogger Joshua_D June 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:When the Alt-Right comes to power, one of its first acts should be to dig up the corpse of William F. Buckley and burn it.

I'm not sure what makes more of a statement, doing that or dubbing him "William F. Cuckley", forever.

Regardless, the latter is a lot easier.


WHY NOT BOTH?

Anonymous LES June 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

Amusing "tough guy" talk from Buckley to Gore Vidal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYymnxoQnf8

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 June 02, 2017 4:11 PM  

Basically what George Will wrote amounts to: "you guys are mean to the opposition", never mind that the opposition is out to put us all in concentration camps.

Blogger Silly but True June 02, 2017 4:14 PM  

@ Smoking Man...

The purpose is not merely a symbolic gesture. Burning the bones is to destroy the evil spirit's power over its connection to the physical world.

Not surprising fire also works to rid the world of evil living spirits as well.

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2017 4:23 PM  

> ...never mind that the opposition is out to put us all in concentration camps.

Nah. They don't have the patience for that anymore. We're irredeemable, remember. They just want to kill us now.

Blogger Lovekraft June 02, 2017 4:24 PM  

We've pretty much been waiting our whole lives to tell these crustaceans where they can stick their opinions.

If they showed an ounce of respect and read the Alt-Right Principles, not to mention the 14 words, they would receive some measure of consideration.

But such a discussion is impossible because the left doesn't see us as people.

Blogger Mr Darcy June 02, 2017 4:30 PM  

Thirty-odd years ago while I was living and working in Atlanta, I happened to lunch one day at a restaurant near my office, and who should be seated at the next table but George Will, bow tie and all. He was in town for the World Series. The best description I can give of him is "old maid in breeches."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 02, 2017 4:32 PM  

Will reminds me of Iowahawk's inimitable character,T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII.
Buckley started and ended as a CIA agent. He was set up in business and funded specifically to neuter the Conservative branch of American politics. He wasn't a traitor, but an enemy that the traitors and cucks put in charge.

Blogger John Bradley June 02, 2017 4:33 PM  

William F. Buckley couldn't even convince his own son to *not* vote for Obama in 2008. Such a powerful fighter for the conservative cause!

Anonymous Urban II June 02, 2017 4:40 PM  

A conservative aims to conserve what is true and good in the existing order of things (e.g. Christianity and Natural Law), but it is apparent that the mainstream conservatives of old failed to do so. When the family structure is under attack, marriage is mocked, homosexuality is embraced, the American people are hated, and murder by abortion is in the millions, a mere conservatism is inadequate. An offensive course of action is necessary.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 02, 2017 4:54 PM  

"Gentlemen, at long last it is time to draw a line in the sand," I announced. "For too long we have stood by idly while these insipid cretins - the Palins, the Limbaughs, the Becks - have run roughshod over our once proud party, making it a mockery and ruining our social standing, advancing the insane notion that years of Washington experience and good breeding are somehow trumped by idiotic pledges to dismantle the very government on which their very existence depends. Well, my friends, I say unto you, with this Delaware disaster they have gone a bridge too far. Today we begin the counterattack, and we will make it plain to the insurrectionists that they shan't see another dime of our inheritances."
--T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII

Blogger SteelPalm June 02, 2017 4:57 PM  

With the nation engaged in a low-grade civil war, with leftist scum that would like to see the right-wing dead or sent to a FEMA camp, with Death Cult terrorism, with the conflict between various racial groups at a fever pitch, all this sad fool can do is lament "muh lack of elegance" among members of the right-wing?!

Yikes. Even I wouldn't have predicted cuckservatives could be this pathetic.

If you would have told me (and I imagine many commentators here) 6 years ago that these conservative writers would behave this way in times of crisis, I would have dismissed it as a silly joke.

Blogger Koanic June 02, 2017 4:58 PM  

He means that the Alt-Right makes cuckservatives soil themselves.

Standard pre-execution reaction, really.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar June 02, 2017 5:03 PM  

"We may be vulgar...".

Pfft. I KNOW vulgar, Vox. You are not that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 02, 2017 5:08 PM  

Cluebat Vanexodar wrote:Pfft. I KNOW vulgar, Vox. You are not that.
Some of us are proud of our vulgarity.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar June 02, 2017 5:09 PM  

106
Yup. Most dangerous MF in the world is a wise vulgarian.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 02, 2017 5:11 PM  

Annoyingly, I've yet to convince by dad how awful Buckley actually was.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 02, 2017 5:21 PM  

When over the target, the Alt-Right releases ordnance. The cuckservative commits suicide.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 02, 2017 5:32 PM  

"When the Alt-Right comes to power....the unicorns will have inherited the earth"

It's true. We know this is true because you always preface your claim the Alt Right is coming to power with the advent of some terrible, terrible catastrophe crippling America. But that's not coming. And here's why.

Any uprising that will alter America's course always comes from the Left and that's the way it will happen again. The Right has no spine for such things.

There is no appetite for throwing out all but Whites. Anywhere.

There are no articulate promoters of the Alt Right willing to come out from under their rocks and play the game. They are all too cowardly to do so.

When a member of the Alt Right pops up and tries to make a case they repulse their listeners and viewers.

Anonymous Post Alley De-Cucking Lever June 02, 2017 5:39 PM  

"Buckley would change that by infusing conservatism with brio, bringing elegance to its advocacy ..."

And so we expose the greatest failing of this form of "conservativism": it is a political aesthetic movement, rather than a political philosophy.

Buckley reminds me very much of Kim Philby, another political aesthete, but at least in Philby's case he was able to live in his ideal political utopia.

Naturally, the shock of it drove Philby to drink in such quantity that it killed him.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents June 02, 2017 5:41 PM  

@103 SteelPalm

Even I wouldn't have predicted cuckservatives could be this pathetic.

Jack Vance's novella The Last Castle from the 60's looks more prescient every month.

Toward the end of a stormy summer afternoon, with the sun finally breaking out under ragged black rain clouds, Castle Janeil was overwhelmed and its population destroyed.

Until almost the last moment the factions among the castle clans were squabbling as to how Destiny properly should be met. The gentlemen of most prestige and account elected to ignore the en­tire undignified circumstance and went about their normal pursuits, with neither more nor less punctilio than usual

Anonymous Steve June 02, 2017 5:50 PM  

the man who first challenged the liberal consensus in 1951 with an excoriation of his alma mater, “God and Man at Yale.”

And... how has that worked out?

Maybe the most fundamental divide between conservatives and the new right isn't ideological. Maybe it's that the latter doesn't give a toss about eloquence, brio, or bowties.

It cares about results.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 02, 2017 5:51 PM  

Steve,

You mean just like in the private sector?

Anonymous BBGKB June 02, 2017 5:57 PM  

There is no appetite for throwing out all but Whites. Anywhere.

Wait until the food stamp card fails

Blogger tz June 02, 2017 5:58 PM  

NR ain't too proud to beg, in this case Kevin Williamson. The bleg is cucky, but the comments are so wonderful with quotes from the campaign like "just die already" and "pack up the u-haul".

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 02, 2017 6:00 PM  

tz wrote:but the comments are so wonderful with quotes from the campaign like "just die already" and "pack up the u-haul".
Well, you got me to click on an NRO link. That takes some doing. But watching Williamson humiliated and mocked is good enough.

Thanks

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 02, 2017 6:09 PM  

"There is no appetite for throwing out all but Whites. Anywhere.

Wait until the food stamp card fails"

If a movement's success is only possible in the wake of disaster, it's not a movement. It's a fall back plan.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 02, 2017 6:13 PM  

...maintaining a conservative institution that lets a lot of different writers with a lot of different opinions write what they think without worrying about anything other than producing the best work they can. It’s a big part of what allows National Review to operate as an opinion journal in which — this is remarkable, if you think about it — there is no party line. If there’s a live political dispute that Ramesh Ponnuru, Rich Lowry, Andrew C. McCarthy, Reihan Salam, Jay Nordlinger, Mike Potemra, Rick Brookhiser, Kat Timpf, Veronique de Rugy, Ian Tuttle, Alexandra DeSanctis, and I all agree about ... I can't think what it is."
I dunno, you could ask John O'Sullivan, or Derbyshire, or Sam Francis, or Mark Steyn. They might have some suggestions about the groupthink.

Blogger SirHamster June 02, 2017 6:14 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:I'm not sure what makes more of a statement, doing that or dubbing him "William F. Cuckley", forever.

Regardless, the latter is a lot easier.


Doing the right thing instead of the easy thing is the first step to healing.

Blogger SteelPalm June 02, 2017 6:21 PM  

@117 The 10th Lettering

If a movement's success is only possible in the wake of disaster, it's not a movement. It's a fall back plan.

You are either an idiot or a liar. Any great restructuring of society, whether for good or ill, is only possible within the context of disaster. There is no exception.

Blogger Robert What? June 02, 2017 6:32 PM  

Hear hear! I might get a bow tie that spins and lights up in the dark in George Will's honor.

Blogger Koanic June 02, 2017 6:32 PM  

The 10th Cuckening can preach defeat all he likes, but the tsunami of right wing government from Moscow to Beijing will hit DC just like the prior wave of Communism did.

Sucks to be on the wrong side of Progress, bitch.

Anonymous Godfrey June 02, 2017 6:37 PM  

The "scowling primitives" are those you've spent nearly the last 27 years promoting and supporting the killing over a million people in the Middle East, Serbia, Northern Africa, and Asia.

And you want to know what's really VULGAR?... funding radical mercenaries and defending policies that has led to the genocide of religious minorities in the Middle East and beyond.

FU George Will. You're an ignorant twit. FU and F your IGNORANT bomb the world invite the world policies. Go rot in hell with Buckley.

Blogger Buybuydandavis June 02, 2017 6:54 PM  

With every new article, I think George Will has hit Peak Bow Tie, yet he always many to top himself with the next one.

How does he top this? "Let them eat cake"?

Maybe he will channel his inner Kevin Williamson and announce that downscale white communities "deserve to die".

I'm fascinated with the train wreck.

Blogger michaeloh59 June 02, 2017 6:56 PM  

#117
""There is no appetite for throwing out all but Whites. Anywhere.

Wait until the food stamp card fails"

If a movement's success is only possible in the wake of disaster, it's not a movement. It's a fall back plan."

I don't think VD has a blueprint. He has a vision. He has said, repeatedly, that the disaster is inevitable.

Blogger Buybuydandavis June 02, 2017 7:00 PM  

tz wrote:NR ain't too proud to beg, in this case Kevin Williamson. The bleg is cucky, but the comments are so wonderful with quotes from the campaign like "just die already" and "pack up the u-haul".



To paraphrase Williamson himself:
“The truth about these dysfunctional, elitist communities is that they deserve to die."

Anonymous Steve June 02, 2017 7:22 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother - Speaking of the private sector, it's telling that neither William F. Buckley or George F. Will ever had to work for a living in the real economy.

They floated between comfortable sinecures in politics, government, conservative vanity publishing and the media.

Nice work if you can get it, but it must be difficult, from that gilded perch, to resist the temptation to look down on men who make things or fix things or sell things for their daily bread, and have the unrefined manners and plebian concerns to prove it.

No wonder poor George is so verklempt at the boorish noveau riche tradesman/impresario President Trump. He probably hasn't even read A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful!

The gold-plated parvenu doesn't even care about baseball statistics, he prefers wrestling. Wrestling! Do they still make smelling salts?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 02, 2017 7:30 PM  

Absolutely, Steve. I was quoting Murray in Ghostbusters, of course

Blogger Chicago Robb June 02, 2017 7:30 PM  

For the longest time, I've said the Right played by Marquis de Queensbury rules , while the Left played by Marquis de Sade rules. With the Alt-Right, meet Marquis de Pepe.
Guys like Will are the poster children for "Participation Trophy" politics. Didn't win, didn't accomplish anything, here is something for showing up. Thanks for being such good sports about it. "Bleep" that.

Anonymous BBGKB June 02, 2017 7:31 PM  

Which was the triggering phrase "Fake Americans have to go" or "Fake Americans have to go back" ?

Anonymous DaveInjustice June 02, 2017 8:21 PM  

George Will's dialogue with the Alt Right

https://youtu.be/OBt-nirXQDE

Anonymous Icicle June 02, 2017 8:33 PM  

irrelevant boomer fag, we don't care!

Silent generation.

Anonymous Scowling Deplorable Primitive Paradigm June 02, 2017 8:42 PM  

George Will and the other bowtie boys make me get in touch with my inner Grand Humongous.

Once again, cuckservatives have disappointed me.

Blogger James Dixon June 02, 2017 8:45 PM  

> When a member of the Alt Right pops up and tries to make a case they repulse their listeners and viewers.

If we're so unimportant, what are you doing here?

You have to go back, his name was Seth Rich, and would you like some pizza with that sneer?

> If a movement's success is only possible in the wake of disaster,

I've been reliably informed by all of the usual suspects that such a disaster has just occurred with our withdrawal from the Paris accord. So I guess it's our time after all.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 02, 2017 8:56 PM  

"You are either an idiot or a liar. Any great restructuring of society, whether for good or ill, is only possible within the context of disaster. There is no exception."

If the Alt Right can't garner support without a disaster, then it's not a philosophy or ideology that has any staying power. If you need a disaster to get your philosophy embraced, it's not a philosophy at all...it's an optional disaster plan.

Blogger SteelPalm June 02, 2017 9:55 PM  

@136

If the Alt Right can't garner support without a disaster,

It's already garnered a great deal of support, as it's the only ideology that has proven successful in fighting Social Justice/globalism.

However, the tipping point is always going to be in the context of disaster. There has never been an exception to this throughout history.

That you refuse to acknowledge this and keep doubling down makes it clear exactly what variety of sneering scumbag you are.

Blogger wreckage June 02, 2017 10:02 PM  

"Any uprising that will alter America's course always comes from the Left and that's the way it will happen again. The Right has no spine for such things."

None of America's, or before that England's, great changes came from the Left. The American Revolution was a conservative reaction to infringements on their Rights. The Civil War was a conservative Protestant war on liberal French descended landowners. Both World Wars and the Cold War were versus the radical Left.

The USA has never had a successful revolutionary Leftist movement. Not one. You need to come to terms with the failure of your movement to engage or enthuse the English-speaking world, beyond a few half-mad Irishmen.

Blogger wreckage June 02, 2017 10:05 PM  

@138 Sorry, self reply: in American Pre-History; England's only successful revolutionary was Cromwell, and if that's your definition of Left you're a nutter. Even then the changes were cemented by the social-conservative counter-revolutionaries afterwards.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 02, 2017 10:38 PM  

"It's already garnered a great deal of support, as it's the only ideology that has proven successful in fighting Social Justice/globalism."

I dont' think it has. I think the Alt Right's Racist and Anti-Semitic core values has attracted just enough support to call it fringe.

Were it anything more, you'd see these kinds of expressions being openly debated in places where fake names aren't used.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 02, 2017 10:42 PM  

"None of America's, or before that England's, great changes came from the Left. The American Revolution was a conservative reaction to infringements on their Rights. The Civil War was a conservative Protestant war on liberal French descended landowners. Both World Wars and the Cold War were versus the radical Left."

The American Revolution was a radically progressive extension of civil rights.

The Civil War was a Radical progressive extension of Civil Rights

The Progressive Movement of the late 19th/Early 20th Century was a radical extension of civil rights culminating with women's right to vote and enhanced child labor laws.

The New Deal was a radical extension of the progressive left that led to the beginnings of the welfare state.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous June 02, 2017 10:49 PM  

I don't agree that Conservatism is a "Bad thing". The Native-Americans who opposed the "white man" were "Conservatives". The Native-Americans who said, "The white man is amazing, they have powerful weapons with which to fight our enemies,let's give them our daughters in marriage, turned out to be the fools. Of course, there is nothing left to conserve, but that does not belittle conservative values. My life, whilst growing up, between 1962 and 1980 was idyllic, even in Oakland, California. I am glad that I will no be living much longer, sad to say, but Conservative values are the right values,pun intended.

Anonymous Colorado Confederate June 03, 2017 1:15 AM  

Before Buckley, patriotic Americans quite correctly thought of the revolutionary left both as an existential threat and an historical oddity. Buckley lifted modern liberalism to "the other side", a group worthy of intellectual debate and discussion. He had a major role in purging from "movement conservatism" those of the old school, who considered the left not as an opponent to be reasoned with, but as an enemy to be crushed.

That time has passed...

Blogger American Spartan June 03, 2017 1:21 AM  

Colorado Confederate wrote:Before Buckley, patriotic Americans quite correctly thought of the revolutionary left both as an existential threat and an historical oddity. Buckley lifted modern liberalism to "the other side", a group worthy of intellectual debate and discussion. He had a major role in purging from "movement conservatism" those of the old school, who considered the left not as an opponent to be reasoned with, but as an enemy to be crushed.

That time has passed...


Fucking moron....I hope he burns in Hell..

Blogger wreckage June 03, 2017 2:09 AM  

"The American Revolution was a radically progressive extension of civil rights."

That's simply historically incorrect.

"The Civil War was a Radical progressive extension of Civil Rights"

That's historically contentious, to put it kindly, but entirely irrelevant to the question of right or left wing politics: the rhetoric and politics of the North were conservative and religious, as were the strategic goals of the North, which were the overriding objectives of the war.

It happens that the basis for Southern defence was also conservative.

Finally, "civil rights" are conservative in English law.

Blogger wreckage June 03, 2017 2:10 AM  

"you'd see these kinds of expressions being openly debated in places where fake names aren't used"

We are. So, now that you've handily dismissed your own point?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 03, 2017 5:01 AM  

"I am glad that I will no be living much longer, sad to say..."

If you're so glad... why wait? I could give you an express ticket to the gates of hell if you want. I only ask for a small loan of a hundred bullets. One to kill you with and the other 99 for target practice on the range because ammo is expensive and I ain't made of dough, dig?

Blogger Koanic June 03, 2017 5:30 AM  

All right wing government is an optional disaster plan, and the disaster is called Real Life.

Good luck staving it off. Perhaps some more immigrants will goose the animal spirits!

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 03, 2017 5:40 AM  

@146

I swear, it's like he's so retarded, he doesn't realize that, if nothing else, that owner and operator of this blog has a real name that everyone knows or could just look up with a quick google search... let alone those of us like yours truly who openly use our real names.

Anonymous DaveP. June 03, 2017 6:27 AM  

The Alt Right is here in the first place because arisotcons like Will couldn't show any measure of performance. How does a failure whose standard is gentlemanly failure plan to "provide an example"? Fail some more? Wave his bowtie?

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 03, 2017 6:42 AM  

George Will is obviously an influential right wing figure. Otherwise, he wouldn't be employed by the Washington Post and MSNBC.

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 03, 2017 6:53 AM  

Why are people characterizing Will as having failed? He has been open abut the fact that he is a moderate leftist, although labeling himself a "conservative" through some combination of ignorance of traditional American policies and principles and his isolation from mainstream opinion as a DC based pundit. He is a liberal interventionist on foreign policy, for open borders domestically. Also an atheist. His ideology has been successful (as far as ensconcing itself and its believers in power). He only failed if you ascribe to him a right of center agenda that he never had.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 03, 2017 9:58 AM  

"I swear, it's like he's so retarded, he doesn't realize that, if nothing else, that owner and operator of this blog has a real name that everyone knows or could just look up with a quick google search... let alone those of us like yours truly who openly use our real names."

Slavish following and commenting at Bubble enclosed blogs don't count as debate that matters. When members of the Alt Right openly debate issues of the day in the light of day, among people with actual power and among those who are empowered to actually take action, then the Alt Right will have achieved something.

At this point, you've got some boys hiding behind fake names, praying for a disaster and imagining hangings.

No....there is no movement called the "Alt Right" that matters. There is a collection of fringe talkers.

Blogger wreckage June 03, 2017 10:41 AM  

Trump is President, the USA just pulled out of the Paris agreement, Brexit happened, the Dems in the USA are in chaos, trade deals are being renegotiated and the Wall is going up. Front National polled far in excess of anything it's done in recent history and threatened to take the French presidency.

But there is no Alt-Right that matters.

Okay, sure. Now go have cup of tea and a nice lie down.

Anonymous The 10th Lettering June 03, 2017 11:01 AM  

"Trump is President, the USA just pulled out of the Paris agreement, Brexit happened, the Dems in the USA are in chaos, trade deals are being renegotiated and the Wall is going up. Front National polled far in excess of anything it's done in recent history and threatened to take the French presidency."

The paris agreement is a big deal to the Alt Right?

Dems have consistently stymied the President's Agenda

There are Zero renegotiations of trade deals happening.

There is no funding for the wall.

The Alt Right can't get at the table. They can't even get in the supermarket.

But hey, there's so much good debate happening on blogs with anonymous commenters.

Blogger James Dixon June 03, 2017 11:08 AM  

> I dont' think it has.

You're last two words are extraneous.

> I think the Alt Right's Racist and Anti-Semitic core values has attracted just enough support to call it fringe.

So what are you doing here again?

> That's simply historically incorrect.

Of course it is. All he can do is lie and call us names.

> No....there is no movement called the "Alt Right" that matters. There is a collection of fringe talkers.

So what are you doing here again?

Here, have some pizza with that tea wreckage offered you. You know you want it. After all, you have a long trip ahead of you.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 03, 2017 11:10 AM  

The 10th Lettering wrote:But hey, there's so much good debate happening on blogs with anonymous commenters.
Says the guy hiding behind a pseudonym.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 03, 2017 12:47 PM  

Guess old Georgie lies pizza with his bow-ties....

Anonymous Jimmy Graves June 03, 2017 2:25 PM  

"Says the guy hiding behind a pseudonym"

Where's the pride of opinion? Pseudonyms? Some movement.

Anonymous Daniel H June 03, 2017 3:39 PM  

Pat Buchanan had a good take on George Will. On TV, once, he called him a yapping poodle.

Blogger James Dixon June 04, 2017 7:51 AM  

> The paris agreement is a big deal to the Alt Right?

It is to the left. That's all that matters.

> Dems have consistently stymied the President's Agenda

They've stopped his travel limitation orders in court. That's it. And that will now go to the Supreme Court.

> There are Zero renegotiations of trade deals happening.

There will be, or we'll be out of those deals.

> There is no funding for the wall.

There will be.

> But hey, there's so much good debate happening on blogs with anonymous commenters.

And what was your (((name))) again? Go back to your pizza and hot dogs. You still have a long trip ahead of you.

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