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Tuesday, June 13, 2017

Step one: stop the importation

The Mayor of Rome calls for a halt to migration:
Rome's mayor, Virginia Raggi, on Tuesday asked the interior ministry for migrant arrivals to the capital to be suspended. "I find it impossible, as well as risky, to think up further accommodation structures," said Raggi in a letter sent to Paola Basilone, the prefect of Rome, in which she called for a "moratorium" on further new arrivals.

The mayor cited as reasons for the request the "strong migratory presence" in the capital and "the continued influx of foreign citizens".

According to the most recent figures published by the administration, on January 1st 2016 there were approximately 364,632 foreigners living in Rome, amounting to 12.7 percent of the total population.

This was more or less the same as the previous year, but represented an increase of 6.2 points since the year 2000. And according to the Roman Observatory on Migration, Lazio is the Italian region with the second highest number of migrants, outdone only by Lombardy.

Across Italy as a whole, around 8.3 percent of the population is foreign, according to Istat figures which were also released on Tuesday.

In Rome, around half of the foreign population were from Europe, with Romania the best represented country.
Stopping the inflow is the first step. The next step will be in the next 4-6 years, when the outflows begin.

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53 Comments:

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother June 13, 2017 1:02 PM  

Blood flows just as easily as migration does.

Blogger YIH June 13, 2017 1:09 PM  

I fully agree. However the Mayor of Rome has a unique problem:
What about ''the country within a country''?
I don't think the current head honcho of Italy will force Vatican City to accommodate the so-called ''refugees''.

Anonymous Steve June 13, 2017 1:18 PM  

Rome was better when the Piazza Navona wasn't crawling with sunglasses vendors and flower-for-the-lady salesmen from the subcontinent.

Time to put the colosseum back to work.

Anonymous BluePony June 13, 2017 1:18 PM  

I keep wondering if there is some sort of psychological operation or meme magic or... something to convince people they should be super patriotic... and return to their countries of origin (or, even better, their parents of grandparents origin to address the 2nd/3rd generation threat) and make their own homelands great again. We'll ignore the fact most were never great.

I was born without any social brain wiring, so I have no idea if I'm out in the high fantasy weeds here. People talk a lot about "send them back", but what sort of realists mechanisms are there outside of the obvious ones involving force?

If I'm nuts, fine, I'm used to that, but I do find this one of the more fascinating areas of speculation.

Given anything by anyone can go viral and become a globally known issue, can we accomplish this even with the Prog/Glob/Cuck/Autism types still in charge in most of the world's halls of power?

OpenID paworldandtimes June 13, 2017 1:21 PM  

Question: What is the ethical argument against repatriating all post-WWII immigrants and their descendants from Europe?

Christian Answer: "There isn't one."

Conventional Liberal Answer: "It would hurt their feelings because non-inclusion."

PA

Blogger Gaiseric June 13, 2017 1:33 PM  

Economic incentives. No more welfare. No more support. No more free lunches. And ad to that people don't like them, won't do business with them, etc.

Mexicans are already fleeing the US in relatively large numbers JUST BECAUSE Trump got elected. Can you imagine when welfare is cut off? When the Wall is built? When there's NO gibsmedat, and in fact suspicious cops follow them around like the trouble-makers that they are, expecting to have a good reason to arrest them?

If we do it sooner rather than later, it doesn't HAVE to be really hard to get a sizable plurality, if not necessarily the majority, to choose to go back home on their own.

There'll still be the harder nuts to crack that need to be FORCED home, and there'll still be a "talented tenth" or some small number that we don't necessarily mind having around, because they don't cause trouble, there's not critical mass of them to realistically cause any trouble, and they can open up the caricature of the ethnic restaurant or whatever.

This doesn't HAVE to be nearly as ugly as it probably will be. Because there's no political will to do the things NOW that could strongly mitigate what will have to be done later.

Blogger Doom June 13, 2017 1:43 PM  

Hold on. Just because some boobed bureaucrat, even if the biggest boob in Rome... well... second biggest... asks for a stoppage doesn't mean a stoppage is in the offing. If you have to ask? Right. I'll wait to see before even thinking of counting that chicken from that egg. As to repatriation?

Who said Mexicans are going home? Oh, the news? Right. Hahaha Wow. Wet. behind. the. ears. No, they aren't returning. They are digging in, and being helped by many cities, states, politicians at all levels in both parties, and businessmen. Hell, Trump still has the catch and release going in full swing, and the backlog on deportation hearings are still massively backlogged, plus with no real return enforcement.

Coolaid drinkers of the world unite. Oh, and about that wall? What wall? There isn't even any actual serious money in this year's budget for it. We've simply been had. Or they really did get to him. It sounds more like everyone is pumping everyone else up for a big fat nothing.

If I am wrong in there? If you see something, legit, that I don't? Spit it out. But if it's just chest thumping mumbo jumbo? Keep it.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning June 13, 2017 1:47 PM  

Rome's mayor, Virginia Raggi...

Um. Moving along, this is wonderful news. Rome has both a symbolic value and a teaching lesson in the war for the West. Romans have had to do this before- when they fail to repel the invaders the city gets sacked.

A transcript of her speech (?) would be useful in US sanctuary cities.

Gaiseric wrote:Mexicans are already fleeing the US in relatively large numbers

Any stats/intel?

Anonymous Steve June 13, 2017 1:48 PM  

Bloody hell, we're all doomed.

Blogger Gaiseric June 13, 2017 1:56 PM  

Yes. A quick google search finds the Breitbart article I remembered, but Pew research data, and even sob stories from the NYT and the LA Times. And that's just the first page of Google search results. And we really haven't even DONE anything yet; the r-strategists are just afraid that we're about to.

There have also been all kinds of sob story articles about San Fran illegals refusing to claim their welfare checks and food stamps for fear of pinging on the system and getting the boot.

Like I said, it's not hard to encourage the behavior we want without having to round people up into boxcars at the point of an M4 and dump them in Tijuana. We'll have to do some of the latter, no doubt, but not as much as people think that we will.

Anonymous BluePony June 13, 2017 2:04 PM  

"Mexicans are already fleeing the US in relatively large numbers JUST BECAUSE Trump got elected."

The best news of recent days is crime spikes in Central America because of all the violent gang member going back home.

"No more welfare. No more support."

We tried prop 187 in California and it got overturned by a judge. Then Governor Gray Davis (D) did not appeal. It would have been handled by the 9th district anyway, so...

That's why I'm trying to think of things that don't require legislation or any help from any authority..

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 13, 2017 2:05 PM  

"In Rome, around half of the foreign population were from Europe, with Romania the best represented country."

I'm going to take a wild guess-- perhaps those "Romanian" foreigners are not ethnically Romanian, but Gypsies?

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2017 2:09 PM  

So why isn't Doom banned yet? I thought discouragement trolls were not allowed.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr June 13, 2017 2:15 PM  

@6: Interesting idea - Many countries, including the U.S., prohibit discrimination based on national origin. Those laws should be amended to permit discrimination based on citizenship, refugee status, and legal presence in the country.

Anonymous Gen. Kong June 13, 2017 2:20 PM  

More refugees have been re-settled by the State Dept. - which is theoretically controlled by Trump - in the last 5 months than in the last 5 months of the teleprompter-readership of Bathhouse Barry-O. Trump could have at least slowed this down to a trickle by firing everyone at State and taking months on end to replace them. Yes, there's no doubt the entire deep-state and both R and D jersey squads of the uniparty have done eveything to stop him from accomplishing much of anything. Sessions could order the arrest of the mayors and city councils of sanctuary cities for violating Federal laws. Too many even within the Trump admin must be pizza eaters. They've basically got him walled in at present. It's still early, and firing Comey was a good move. There needs to be more good moves to knock the foundations from beanth the enemy though.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 13, 2017 2:21 PM  

Napoleon 12pdr wrote:@6: Interesting idea - Many countries, including the U.S., prohibit discrimination based on national origin. Those laws should be amended to permit discrimination based on citizenship, refugee status, and legal presence in the country.

Legal presence is already in the law. The courts and the EEOC have basically defanged it. It puts corps in a very sticky situation. It says they have to ask for documentation that the applicant is a legal resident but they better not look too closely at that documentation or question it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 13, 2017 2:22 PM  

Don't worry about the migrant invader colonists they are going back to wonderful diverse tolerant countries with vibrant cultures.

Blogger VD June 13, 2017 2:43 PM  

So why isn't Doom banned yet? I thought discouragement trolls were not allowed.

He's not a troll. And no one pays any attention to his meanderings anyhow.

Anonymous Mr. Rational June 13, 2017 2:47 PM  

ICYMI, Vox:  you have not said yea or nay to my offer of a bet.  Clock's ticking.

Blogger The Kurgan June 13, 2017 2:53 PM  

Doom is doomy

Blogger The Kurgan June 13, 2017 2:54 PM  

Oh I think you'll recognise it when you see it... I believe pogrom is the word.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning June 13, 2017 2:59 PM  

Gaiseric wrote:There have also been all kinds of sob story articles about San Fran illegals refusing to claim their welfare checks and food stamps for fear of pinging on the system and getting the boot.

This tells us where to look- a Public Records Request to the City of San Fransisco for the list of welfare recipients who have not picked up their checks.

+

BluePony wrote:I'm trying to think of things that don't require legislation or any help from any authority..

Get the list. Then you can help those people pick up their checks...

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener June 13, 2017 2:59 PM  

Governments of overrun cities like LA are beginning to admit that they can't cooperate with federal immigration law for fear of violent reprisal from illegal aliens.

Acknowledging that there is an army of hostiles camped within our borders is a positive first step toward addressing the problem.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 13, 2017 3:02 PM  

And the migrant's biggest detractors, fellow teat sucking D voters.

Blogger Robert What? June 13, 2017 3:08 PM  

The political class will never willingly stop this because it would require that they admit they were wrong. That they cannot do.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning June 13, 2017 3:09 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:Sessions could order the arrest of the mayors and city councils of sanctuary cities for violating Federal laws.

Maybe they would like to have some encouragement. Some of those laws are federal felonies. Misprision of a felony is also a felony, so you with knowledge of a felony are obligated to report it. How does one lodge a federal criminal compliant? With the FBI? Federal district court? (idk)

Blogger Doom June 13, 2017 3:23 PM  

Hmm? I thought it was because I had the best resting bitch face in the universe?

Blogger Jew613 June 13, 2017 3:39 PM  

Vox, in Italy how much power do local & regional officials such as mayors and governors have in regards to immigration?

Anonymous Pippen Took June 13, 2017 3:59 PM  

OT: Cernovich is reporting Trump is considering resigning, possibly as soon as next week.

The Russian stuff is sticking, fair or not. President Pence here we come.

Anonymous Marco June 13, 2017 3:59 PM  

'The next step in 4-6 years will be outflows.'

Do you think we will see this also happen in the U.S. or just in Europe?

Anonymous grey enlightenment June 13, 2017 4:02 PM  

Pippen Took wrote:OT: Cernovich is reporting Trump is considering resigning, possibly as soon as next week.

The Russian stuff is sticking, fair or not. President Pence here we come.



sigh.,,this is a hoax..2 months old

https://www.google.com/search?q=Trump+is+considering+resigning%2C&oq=Trump+is+considering+resigning

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 13, 2017 4:17 PM  

There have also been all kinds of sob story articles about San Fran illegals refusing to claim their welfare checks and food stamps for fear of pinging on the system and getting the boot.

I have it on the good authority of every one of my Farcebook friends that "illegals don't receive welfare!" So clearly this is more Fake News.

When asked how these noble workers of the world, doing seasonal work at prices Americans can't afford to work for, manage to survive without .gov help, the most rational response is usually flummoxed sputtering, and it just goes downhill from there.

Anonymous fop June 13, 2017 4:18 PM  

I thought Italy was just the staging area before they went north and west.

Blogger Sillon Bono June 13, 2017 4:26 PM  

People talk a lot about "send them back", but what sort of realists mechanisms are there outside of the obvious ones involving force?

Obviously, The other ones are those involving force and extreme prejudice.

Choose wisely.

Blogger DeploraBard June 13, 2017 4:26 PM  

China has a great wall

Anonymous BBGKB June 13, 2017 4:33 PM  

Mexicans are already fleeing the US in relatively large numbers JUST BECAUSE Trump got elected. Can you imagine when welfare is cut off?

Just imagine if there was a live game show with a luchador mask wearing EL GUAPO with a rainbow feather boa that had paracord strands threaded in it called "Don't Garrote Fewer Felons Than A Faggot"

a Public Records Request to the City of San Fransisco for the list of welfare recipients who have not picked up their checks.

They get it electronically on EBT cards now, the elite didn't like that riots would stop for people to get their checks. They can even use the card as food stamps at Taco Bell

Farcebook friends that "illegals don't receive welfare!"

Project veritas did a hidden cam video of a van full of illegals applying for food stamps with all of them getting it even after saying they were not Americans.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy June 13, 2017 4:35 PM  

Deplorable Winning wrote:Maybe they would like to have some encouragement. Some of those laws are federal felonies. Misprision of a felony is also a felony, so you with knowledge of a felony are obligated to report it.
No, misprision of felony is only a misdemeanor. (Misprision of treason is a felony.)

How does one lodge a federal criminal compliant? With the FBI? Federal district court? (idk)
18 USC 4 specifies that the felony should be reported to the President or to any federal judge. (But failing to report a felony to one of those persons is only a crime if you are also actively concealing it.)

8 USC 1324 is more relevant to sanctuary cities; every person conspiring to harbor an illegal alien can be prosecuted directly under that statute, and the DoJ can seek the death penalty for everyone involved if any person dies as the result of a conspiracy to bring in or harbor an illegal alien.

Blogger Doom June 13, 2017 4:41 PM  

LurkingPuppy,

What you are saying is that rather severe laws are simply being ignored. Essentially, politicians and others are directly getting away with, in essence, murder? It's not that there should be a law, there is... it isn't being enforced? Yeah...

Blogger JACIII June 13, 2017 5:22 PM  

I for one have been disappointed in sessions. Recusal was a cowardly act and his baby steps immigration policies don't speak to a will for aggressive enforcement.

Blogger SirHamster June 13, 2017 6:07 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:ICYMI, Vox:  you have not said yea or nay to my offer of a bet.  Clock's ticking.

Bet conditions:

If he wins, you buy one (1) book.

If you win, he buys you six (6) signed hardcover books, and pays €1000 for some SJW-triggering event you plan on hosting in the future.

I think you have massively over-valued the interest anyone has in you reading TIA.

Thanks for the laugh, though.

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2017 6:29 PM  

@MrIrrational said, in his linked comment
when you have faith that claims CERTAINTY, you lose the habit of thinking. This is something that all seriously dogmatic people I've encountered have in common. It lets little mistakes grow up to be huge ones.
Like your faith in Global Warmening, Materialism, the sufficiency of reason, and the nonexistence of God? Or do those not count because they are your dogmas?

Anonymous Dismal Farmer June 13, 2017 6:37 PM  

The boomer bible by rf laird is a masterpiece btw

Blogger Charles Martel June 13, 2017 6:38 PM  

Oh, but "Pope" Francis (safely inside the walls of the Vatican) will be upset.

Blogger Dexter June 13, 2017 6:47 PM  

"No more because not enough housing" - bah, weak argument. Libs will just say "raise taxes and build shelters".

"No more because they are stupid violent worthless alien savages" would at least be honest.

Yeah yeah I know, Bad Rhetoric...

Blogger Flair1239 June 13, 2017 8:09 PM  

I think this is the key. Once you stop paying them, they will leave.

The ones that don't leave will be less objectionable (in my opinion) because they will not be spending my money with one hand while wagging their face beer with the other.

In Minnesota, there is a sizeable Hmong population. Although I feel no desire to live in proximity to them, I do have a certain respect for their culture. They have turned many a city vacant lot into a productive garden plot. They work their asses off.

Contrast the Hmong to the native black population in Minnesota... and well... if I had to choose....

Blogger Lazarus June 13, 2017 9:54 PM  

Has anyone noticed the Lion of London Bridge, Roy Larner?



When three knife-wielding Muslims charged into the Black and Blue Steakhouse near London Bridge on the night of June 3, they had the bad luck to encounter Mr. Roy Larner, who shouted, “F**k you, I’m Millwall,” referring to the South London football club supported by England’s most notorious hooligans. Mr. Larner fought them off with his fists and doubtless saved many lives. Millwall’s chant is, “No-one likes us. We don’t care.”

He got slashed 8 times but kept the muzzies busy so everyone could clear out.

He is better than even Based Stick Man.

He is Based Millwall.

Blogger Durandel Almiras June 14, 2017 12:33 AM  

May God look favorably on the local nations of Italy and help them to cast out the rapacious foreigners and cleanse the beautiful land under the soft sun.

And then, may he grant us the will the leave to leave the EU and the will to break up after that.

Anonymous andon June 14, 2017 1:07 AM  

when all this is over, the leftist politicians responsible will have to hang

maybe we should start compiling a list

Anonymous Deplorable Winning June 14, 2017 2:12 AM  

LurkingPuppy wrote:Deplorable Winning wrote:Maybe they would like to have some encouragement. Some of those laws are federal felonies. Misprision of a felony is also a felony, so you with knowledge of a felony are obligated to report it.

No, misprision of felony is only a misdemeanor. (Misprision of treason is a felony.)

How does one lodge a federal criminal compliant? With the FBI? Federal district court? (idk)

18 USC 4 specifies that the felony should be reported to the President or to any federal judge. (But failing to report a felony to one of those persons is only a crime if you are also actively concealing it.)

8 USC 1324 is more relevant to sanctuary cities; every person conspiring to harbor an illegal alien can be prosecuted directly under that statute, and the DoJ can seek the death penalty for everyone involved if any person dies as the result of a conspiracy to bring in or harbor an illegal alien.


Thank you, sir, for your MOST excellent clarification on this matter.

Blogger szopen June 14, 2017 3:00 AM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:"In Rome, around half of the foreign population were from Europe, with Romania the best represented country."

I'm going to take a wild guess-- perhaps those "Romanian" foreigners are not ethnically Romanian, but Gypsies?

I'd say you are 100% right. There was once a time when there was huge inflow of "Romanians" into Poland, to the point that "Romanian" become (unfairly) associated with very disputable behavior. Few years later we learned that all those so called "Romanians" were, in fact, gypsies.

It was the same when the news broadcasted few years ago that "Pole brutally murdered Dutch" with hard to hidden glee "you see? You Poles are as worthless as those middle eastern bunch you despise". Obviously, there are Poles who are worthless scum. But I've sonn learned that this particular Pole was, in fact, gypsy.

Anonymous Teapartydoc June 14, 2017 9:23 AM  

Those figures are misleading. As of about ten years ago the proprtion of people of Italian lineage were already a minority in Italy and more people who were born in Italy resided outside the borders of Italy than inside.

Anonymous Anonymous June 14, 2017 11:26 PM  

"In Rome, around half of the foreign population were from Europe, with Romania the best represented country."

In other words: gypsies. That filth has been in Roma since forever.

- Vincent

Blogger szopen June 15, 2017 8:22 AM  

In the meantime: the biggest Polish newspaper reports that Polish imigrants to UK participated in a slave ring. Now, go for their mugshots in British press and they look like typical gypsies (brown faces, dark eyes, dark hair).

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