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Wednesday, June 21, 2017

The God-Emperor wins again

Funny, is it not, that Donald Trump keeps winning these "national referendums" on his presidency, even when the media's polls predict otherwise.
Republican Karen Handel won the special congressional election in Georgia on Tuesday, fending off a challenge from Democrat Jon Ossoff in the heavily Republican House district.

Handel’s victory in the closely fought contest, which drew national interest and was the most expensive House race ever at over $50 million spent by both sides, comes as good news for President Donald Trump. Democrats had promoted the contest as a referendum on the president.

With 99 percent of the vote counted, Handel leads Ossoff 53 percent to 47 percent in a race that many expected to be much closer. Handel had 127,021 votes to the Democrat's 114,390 ballots.
The thing is, even if Ossoff had won, that would have changed precisely nothing, except the media would be crowing rather than falling into a surly silence. Except that we would not have further proof that the media's polls are reliably unreliable and we're back to the old days of needing to reweight their reports four or five points in the Republican's direction to predict the result.

Tired? Or still not tired?

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Blogger Lazarus June 21, 2017 4:37 AM  

NBC report:
Handel’s victory in the closely fought contest, which drew national interest and was the most expensive House race ever at over $50 million spent by both sides,...


ZH report:

Of course, making Handel's win even sweeter for Republicans is the fact that Democrats outspent them by a margin of 7-to-1, with Ossoff dropping a staggering ~$22 million versus only $3 million for Handel....which is kind of reminiscent of how things played our for Hillary...oops.

There seems to be a discrepancy here.

Anonymous JAG June 21, 2017 4:41 AM  

No, no, no, NO!

This was actually a victory for the Democrats, because it was this close!

This is a repudiation of Trump!

Blogger #7139 June 21, 2017 4:52 AM  

More winning. Still not tired.

Blogger SteelPalm June 21, 2017 5:01 AM  

One would think after the embarrassing result of the "national referendum" in the Montana special election between Gianforte and Quist, Fake News would have learned its lesson.

Apparently not.

Is that a possible corollary? "SJWs never learn"?

Blogger APL June 21, 2017 5:05 AM  

So, Bath house Barry did nothing about it, Clearly Trump is doing nothing about it.

How many elections does Vladimir Putin have to steal before the American poeple are going to wake up?

Anonymous Bobby Farr June 21, 2017 5:10 AM  

And the margin of victory was larger than Trump's margin over Clinton. So I guess the media will report this as growing support for Trump and a stamp of approval on his first months in office.

Anonymous Rocklea June 21, 2017 5:11 AM  

Gotta love this photo;
http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/IMG_5279.jpg

Anonymous Looking Glass June 21, 2017 5:12 AM  

On the Polls, if you get access to the Cross Tabs, you can reweight them properly. That's where they actually do all of the intentional shenanigans. It's a double-layed con, actually, since you used to be able to remove most bias by taking a average of multiple polls then undoing the skew put into them. That doesn't work as well when they manipulate not the top-line but the sample skew.

It has the side effect of covering over the biggest problem: in most polls, roughly 50% of the respondents are college graduates, regardless of region. It's pretty much college-educated liberals are the only ones that still respond to telephone pollsters. (It's part of what made Romney seem stronger than he was.) When your sub-sample that's going to be 25% of a local electorate is the least-likely to respond to a poll, you have zero statistical significance.

Blogger Wolfman at Large June 21, 2017 5:13 AM  

Rumors say that if we ever get tired of winning that we'll fall into a deep sleep and begin dreaming about even more winning.

Blogger Tom Kratman June 21, 2017 5:39 AM  

Hilarious, no, how they can say "50 million spent by both sides" while avoiding how much was spent by each.

Blogger James Dixon June 21, 2017 5:43 AM  

Still not tired.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 21, 2017 5:49 AM  

I loved the look on the faces of CNN's news actors.

The whole "my puppy just got run over," vibe they are giving off.

You have to remember they are convinced, absolutely convinced that Trump is going to lose the next election. All of their friends have said so and they agree with them.

Those shell shocked faces are remembering how Hillary was going to win the Electoral College in a historic landslide and then suddenly didn't.

Blogger Lovekraft June 21, 2017 5:54 AM  

The left has become a puncline. As the youth become even more disillusioned with the absolute corruption of the system, and marxists double down with their oppressive actions, one has to consider this a huge joke.

With the left as the punchline.

Anonymous Rocklea June 21, 2017 5:55 AM  

"The whole "my puppy just got run over," vibe they are giving off."

To me it looked like they could all use a tube of Preparation H.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer June 21, 2017 6:02 AM  

Since when was a 6% win "closely contested". Obama won in 2012 by a 4% margin and that has always been reffered to as winning comfortably. The media is in a credibility nose dive and they haven't figured out that shilling harder for the left isn't the way to pull out of it.

Blogger J A Baker June 21, 2017 6:18 AM  

And of course the election results will be ignored by MSM, but had Hollywood Ossoff won we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT June 21, 2017 6:22 AM  

Not tired. Maybe after more winning.

Anonymous Eduardo the Magnificent June 21, 2017 6:26 AM  

"was the most expensive House race ever at over $50 million spent by both sides"

This guy (?) passed college English exactly how?

Blogger Jack Ward June 21, 2017 6:30 AM  

Yes, the R won in GA. Thus Trump won. OK. Good!
Yet, according to Dinninger at the market ticker, this admins, apparent,cure for high drug prices is a recipe for more disaster in the drug/medical industry, or rather, more disaster for us the consumers who have to some how pay for our drugs and medical care.
I like the idea of Trump and company beating down the dems but it would be sure nice if one of the key problems in the economic woes of this country were approached with something resembling we the people could use and not a small group of med/drug oligarchs keeping on with their illegal, per USC 15, obscene profits.
And, yes I know, the MAGA man has a plan and we need to patient. I truly hope that patience is not misplaced.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) June 21, 2017 6:40 AM  

There seems to be a discrepancy here.

Outside groups (super pacs, etc)

Blogger Joseph Dooley June 21, 2017 6:44 AM  

The last 3 presidential elections have taught not to trust any poll other than IBD/TIPP.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) June 21, 2017 6:45 AM  

Hilarious, no, how they can say "50 million spent by both sides" while avoiding how much was spent by each.

Two stories with more detail on the spending:

http://politics.blog.ajc.com/2017/06/19/the-race-for-georgias-6th-district-now-costs-more-than-50m/

https://www.issueone.org/money-behind-expensive-u-s-house-race-history/

Blogger Shimshon June 21, 2017 6:51 AM  

Gives new meaning to, "It's different this time!"

Trump could continue to nominate people in safe districts for Federal appointments, draining the Democratic funding swamp in preparation for 2020.

Blogger Stilicho June 21, 2017 7:12 AM  

@Tom Kratman, exactly. Even accounting for outside group spending, the Dems significantly outspent the GOP. Gee, I wonder why they wouldn't report that? Maybe the Russians wouldn't let them.

Blogger Vikki Wilson June 21, 2017 7:17 AM  

How I laughed...

Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 7:20 AM  

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Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 7:28 AM  

12. CS

"my puppy just got run over,"

I saw that wonderful picture of the CNN talking heads late last night.

Blogger OGRE June 21, 2017 7:30 AM  

It was utterly shameful that the Dems were promoting a FUCKING WHITE MALE over a woman in this election, when what we sorely need in this country is more women, LGBTQ+AA1DX~Y and People of Color in positions of power and leadership.

Will they ever stop trying to ram their FUCKING WHITE MALE privilege down out throats?

Blogger Keef June 21, 2017 7:31 AM  

No sir not tired at all!

Anonymous SugarPi June 21, 2017 7:38 AM  

I have a relative in Atlanta whom I have visited, so I'm aware of local discussions about this election over the course of the cycle. Many people in the viewing area believed that Handel was being sabotaged by her Repub. handlers. Herman Cain, who has had in-person experience, commented on his radio show that her dynamic nature was not evident in her ads.
The buzz was that Handel was going to lose... kinda like Trump was going to lose.

Blogger roughcoat June 21, 2017 7:46 AM  

@ 30

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Pretend to be an expert, pretend to be a friend, then sabotage the candidate.

"You'd be soooo cute with a pixie cut, sweetie!"

Disgusting.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt June 21, 2017 8:12 AM  

God resists the proud, and no one is more proud than a Leftist. Too proud to listen, too proud to learn, too proud to accept chastisement and reform. The pattern is clear now: be proved wrong and lose, mouth a few sullen comments about "soul-searching" and "taking stock", then aggressively hurl oneself back onto the same path that's just led to disaster.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Penguins Fan June 21, 2017 8:20 AM  

I said early on in Trump's run that not only will it come out that the polls are rigged, e.g. weighted, over-sampled, under-sampled, etc. in favor of the dems... but eventually it will be leaked that the mainstream-media was simple making up numbers out of thin air towards the end in realizing that Hillary was doomed... As in, a total Hollywood scrip-writer productions.

I'm also highly skeptical about the #1 meme of the progs in the wake of Trump's victory... "If only millennials voted in 2016, Hillary would have won 49 states!" Note that Brexit is now threatened, supposedly, by all these phantom millennials now registering to vote over there. Yeah, no.

I know quite the demographic cross-section of millennials and NONE of them, to a young man and woman, line up with Hillary or her party. At best they are either indifferent or lean towards the greens (Gary Johnson-ites), or flat out say the heck with it, and, yeah, let's give Trump a chance.

Blogger Otto Lamp June 21, 2017 8:21 AM  

45% is the Democrat base vote in GA (GA isn't nearly as red as people say).

With all their effort and money, the Dems still weren't able to pull more than their base.

That’s a good sign. Even Republican voters unhappy with Trump aren't stupid enough to think a Democrat is the answer.

Blogger Alexandros June 21, 2017 8:22 AM  

I'm loving this; can't wait until wall.

Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 8:26 AM  

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Blogger rumpole5 June 21, 2017 8:27 AM  

They just don't understand that we're learning all of their disingenuous tricks. We hate them.

Blogger Ezekiel June 21, 2017 8:27 AM  

SugarPi wrote:I have a relative in Atlanta whom I have visited, so I'm aware of local discussions about this election over the course of the cycle. Many people in the viewing area believed that Handel was being sabotaged by her Repub. handlers. Herman Cain, who has had in-person experience, commented on his radio show that her dynamic nature was not evident in her ads.

The buzz was that Handel was going to lose... kinda like Trump was going to lose.

Nah. I grew up about 50 miles north of there, and if anything she probably benefited by looking as wooden and Kasichy as possible.

That's the only reason Trump did so badly there. Said mean things, behaved badly, offended their bourgeois sensibilities. I don't know if Handel is a GOPe swamp creature, but she definitely presents herself as such. Her win is a defeat for the SJWs, but I'm not ready to call it a victory for us.

Blogger OGRE June 21, 2017 8:30 AM  

@34 Otto

I'd think most of the Dem population is centered in the cities of Atlanta and Savannah and the college towns. Also, a good number of that population would be the Southern and Union Democrats as well, a fair number of which have been voting Red as of late. My state of WV is 44/32 Dem/Rep but went for Trump by over 40 points, as all the Dems here are mostly right leaning but have been Union Democrats their entire lives.

Blogger Ezekiel June 21, 2017 8:32 AM  

Another perspective:
http://akinokure.blogspot.com/2017/06/democrat-void-not-being-filled-by.html

Supposedly, Trump had the chance to get some real nationalists into the House, but instead he settled for the cucks all three times.

I don't know about that. I'm only (halfway) competent to comment on the Georgia race, and I don't know if Gray could have won the run-off. Seems to me that Trump and the national GOP played it safe in these races, and that might be the best strategy for now.

Blogger Cataline Sergius June 21, 2017 8:36 AM  

I think what really bothers the talking heads on the Left is that Trump only what that district by 1 point in the general and lost it to Rubio in the primary.

I think they really were using it as a crystal ball.

Now of course they will just forget about the whole thing and move the goal posts but they are suddenly feeling a lot less hopeful about the midterms.

Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 8:36 AM  

4. SteelPalm

"SJWs never learn"

They be in a nose dive, spinning, spinning out of control. But the MSM will keep getting propped up by globalist money. And a few in the DNC will attempt to be measured and calm, only to be shouted down by the hysterical fanatics who "navigate" the plane.

Feminism does that to ya. Hysterically funny.

Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 8:47 AM  

Even before the midterms, the Right Wing Globalists are going to be "lessoned." Vulnerable GOPe congressmen and maybe a senator or two will be primaried out.

Blogger Ezekiel June 21, 2017 8:47 AM  

@34
@39

One thing to remember about the affluent parts of Georgia is that there are not a lot of swing-voters there, just lots of cucks/"educated moderates" who pretend to be.

I think the Dems were hoping that Ossoff could form a new anti-Trump coalition of minorities and middle-class suburbanites; bring the Romney/Clinton voters into the Democratic fold for good and allow them to give even less of a damn about working-class and rural whites.

Would of been a fair deal for me. They get the nice parts of Atlanta and Austin (still not enough to flip either state), we get Mainers and Vermonters to start voting like West Virginians and we get to start calling them the Kulak Party.

As questionable a strategy as that was, at least it was something. Right now, I don't see any means of convincing those whites who aren't Hipsters, Jews or gays to vote Dem. I ain't even sure if they can keep those.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 21, 2017 8:49 AM  

Tired? Winning? You keep using those two words in the same sentence. I don't think those two words belong in the same sentence.

Still winning. Still not tired.

Anonymous SugarPi June 21, 2017 9:01 AM  

Ezekial, your points are well-taken. I have other connections to Atlanta, personal and business. The 6th District is full of Never-Trumpers. Those who wondered if Handel was being sabotaged are in the Atlanta area now, but have seen this Repub game in another state. This is characteristic of Repubs... they do cannibalize their own.
The speculation could, of course, be wrong. But once you've smelled a skunk, you recognize it next time. I believe the voters actually played the definitive role in the election, unlike in others where the "machine" drove the results.

Blogger Page June 21, 2017 9:18 AM  

53 - 47? One might say she won Handel-ly?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 21, 2017 9:51 AM  

The woman from the GOP is just another hair spray fake, proving once again the best weapon the GOP has is the D party and their SJW fanatics.

But some day in the future someone will actually stand up and take the moral level of warfare away from the Left and their SJW fanatics, last night was not it. It like most squeals from the Right was about "please master loosen my chains."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 21, 2017 9:53 AM  

FTR most anti-semitic crap is of the "please master loosen my chains" school of brilliant right wing intellectualism.

You Jews should be happy for this.

Blogger praetorian June 21, 2017 9:58 AM  

@12

I loved the look on the faces of CNN's news actors.

JUST

Anonymous Azimus June 21, 2017 10:10 AM  

40. Ezekiel June 21, 2017 8:32 AM
Seems to me that Trump and the national GOP played it safe in these races, and that might be the best strategy for now.


It has worked better than Theresa "Even-Though-I'm-PM-Give-Me-More-Votes" May's strategy, which I'm still convinced was a disguised attempt to get out of being the PM who took UK out of the European Union...

Blogger tuberman June 21, 2017 10:36 AM  

40. Ezekiel

The smart time to "teach" the cucks would be the next primary.

Blogger VFM #7634 June 21, 2017 12:12 PM  

@28 OGRE
(((White male))), in this case.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr June 21, 2017 1:01 PM  

Tired? No. Because we have not yet begun to win!

What's been done so far is merely a warmup.

Anonymous GregMan June 21, 2017 1:11 PM  

Nope. Not tired yet. No, not, nope.

Blogger Beefy Levinson June 21, 2017 1:24 PM  

Handel Wins Special Election
Millennial Doesn't Get Job

Blogger John Wright June 21, 2017 1:51 PM  

@19
"... it would be sure nice if one of the key problems in the economic woes of this country were approached with something resembling we the people could use and not a small group of med/drug oligarchs keeping on with their illegal, per USC 15, obscene profits. "

Someone please explain to Jack Ward the concept, first invented in the late Neolithic, of having some members of the tribe own their own goods, specialize in the making thereof, and swap them to other members of the tribe for their mutual benefit.

He seems not to grasp how this whole private property and free market thing works.

You see, a Paleolithic tribesman shared all his work in common with his fellow tribesmen, hence no one did more than the minimum needed to nap a flint, weave a basket or fletch an arrow.

Like our Jack here, he did not get the concept that if one tribesmen is better at flintnapping and another at basket weaving, the one should concentrate on flints, and the other on baskets, and they should swap their excess at a ratio mutually satisfying to them.

You see, the driver of all Marxist claptrap is envy.

Envy always casts the other man's work as unfair, his profits as obscene, and the products of his labor as something owed to you due to your need for them.

And envy is never satisfied.

The Paleolithic no doubt also felt that the world owed him a living. The Neolithic knew better.

Now if we could only bring the rest of this generation forward at least to the level of the invention of the bone needle or the fire drill or fired pottery, half of the tumult and turmoil of modern politics would be stillborn.

Anonymous Wendy Weinbaum June 21, 2017 2:03 PM  

The Georgia special election was lost by the DemocRATS who spent $50 million in losing to the American Party which spent just $7 million.

Blogger bosscauser June 21, 2017 2:34 PM  

Trump won Georgia 6 by one point. Not his strong hold.
That's why Dems took an expensive shot at it!

They're done...

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger VFM #7634 June 21, 2017 3:21 PM  

"Someone please explain to Jack Ward the concept, first invented in the late Neolithic, of having some members of the tribe own their own goods, specialize in the making thereof, and swap them to other members of the tribe for their mutual benefit."

@57 John Wright
Well, he does have a point. Big Pharma is the biggest lobbying group in Congress. Big Pharma and others in the health care racket are directly responsible for why emergency room visits cost $1,000. And interestingly enough, Democrats offer no solutions to the price-gouging, taking it as the given cost of doing business and trying to make everyone else pay for it.

He's not attacking the concept of private property, but rather the concept of price-gouging, especially price-gouging of people who can ill afford it.

Blogger Stephen St. Onge June 21, 2017 3:26 PM  

Not tired. Not a bit.

Blogger Stephen St. Onge June 21, 2017 3:43 PM  

https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/the-god-emperor-wins-again.html?showComment=1498073192261#comment-57 John Wright: Putting "medical care" and "free market" in the same discussion is hilarious.

I'm a former respiratory technician, my wife is a retired RN. We can tell you from personal experience that medicine is the most regulated part of the economy, with constant government interference from all sides.

You've heard of people starting tech businesses in their garage. Ever hear of a drug business started in a garage? IT'S ILLEGAL TO DO THAT.

There will be no free market in medical care for the foreseeable future.

Blogger tublecane June 21, 2017 3:55 PM  

@18-Him fail English? That's unpossible.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper June 21, 2017 4:31 PM  

John Wright wrote:Someone please explain to Jack Ward the concept, first invented in the late Neolithic, of having some members of the tribe own their own goods, specialize in the making thereof, and swap them to other members of the tribe for their mutual benefit.

The key is mutual benefit. It often doesn't scale very well as people naturally treat people who aren't tribe like stuff. This is a rational instinct present in nearly all primates

Religion particularly Christianity is the secret sauce that allows us to overcome that but only when it applied . And note if often fails . I'm sure you are aware of this but most of Christian history was in a heavily regulated economy with markets . Capitalism is a new thing though and it destabilizing at times

As for all the complaints about declining liberty , more cities, more people, more potential chaos , less freedom and more costs . Its nearly inevitable till boom. 80% of people are Urban thus its more expensive

Theory of Catabolic Collapse

PDF http://ecoshock.org/transcripts/greer_on_collapse.pdf

Don't want this? Have a smaller more rural population

Otherwise you end up socialized

Anonymous andon June 21, 2017 4:36 PM  

as soon as the Republican wins its no longer a referendum on Trump

Blogger SemiSpook37 June 21, 2017 4:39 PM  

What makes this even more laughable is the fact that Ossoff isn't even a resident of the district. Handel made it a point to point that out to the media gargoyles when she voted yesterday.

Sure, she may not be exactly what we wanted, but she might be willing to learn, if presented with the right mentor.

And no, still not tired.

Blogger Thucydides June 21, 2017 5:47 PM  

The "over $50 million spent by both sides" implies some sort of equivalency, but in reality the coastal Lefites spent over $23 million, which is about 4X what the Republicans did.

Buying anti-American votes and running on an anti-American platform as an anti-American candidate does not seem to be a winning strategy for the Dems, but since they always "double down" we can only imagine how much money they will spend in 2018 trying to contest seats in the "Red" states which they feel are vulnerable.

Here's hoping that Americans will raise the bar so it becomes prohibitively expensive for New Yorkers and Californians to try to buy elections outside of their states.

Anonymous andon June 21, 2017 5:55 PM  

The "over $50 million spent by both sides" implies some sort of equivalency, but in reality the coastal Lefites spent over $23 million, which is about 4X what the Republicans did.

i noticed this too. i tried to find real numbers of left $$ vs right $$ but the dishonest media wasnt too interested in disclosing, just "most expensive of all time" which doesnt tell the real story

he was a "darkhorse" (jewish) underdog, dontcha know. he didnt have 3-4X the funding

Blogger Jordan179 June 22, 2017 11:10 AM  

I hear Putin sent time traveling agents back to ensure that John Adams became our second President! :O

Blogger Jordan179 June 22, 2017 11:11 AM  

(*nods*) That's why Dewey beat Truman.

Blogger Were-Puppy June 22, 2017 9:46 PM  

Tired? Or still not tired?
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I'm not tired of winning, but i am definitely tired of the stupid Ossoff campaign commercials. They never even noted that he is a democrat

Blogger Were-Puppy June 22, 2017 9:54 PM  

I know, this is an old topic.

But my opinion as a semi local of that area -

Ossoff looks like a lost at birth twin of Anthony Weiner.

He was tied to Nancy Pelosi.

He didn't live in the district. This is in some way also a watered down version of the invaders problem, as people don't want to be represented by some outsider who is not from their midst.

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