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Monday, June 12, 2017

White pathologies are not universal

Chateau Heartist observes the uncomfortable obvious:
If you’ve ever lived in a diversitopia — I mean an area with real Diversity™ not just black and White but multiple races living under one neighborhood roof adding to the colorfully hazardous stew — you’ll notice a peculiarity that shitlib SWPLs would rather you never mention, which is that nonWhites — the subcontinental browns, the aztecs, the orientals, the MENAs and even the fuckin mystery meat race orphans, among others — treat blacks so much worse than Whites treat blacks. Blatantly, rudely worse.

You’ll often see a scene where some bindi is excoriating a black service worker for tardiness or general incompetence. As a White person, you might cringe a little at the scene, even though you know gandhi is right on the merits. A part of you wants to chastise him for not recognizing the informal rules of engagement in America when dealing with blacks: abide their shortcomings with a sumptuously magnanimous spirit.

It’s as if all the world’s empathy, big heartedness, and indulgence were concentrated in just one race — White Western Europeans — and the Lord of Lunacy decided no other race but Whites should possess such divine traits. Whites alone seem to have the ability to grasp the failings of another race and to obligingly adjust their behavior to draw the least amount of attention to the stark racial differences when in the company of members of that race, so that they don’t feel like lessers in the presence of superiors, or like oddballs in a world where White norms of social interaction are foreign to them.

NonWhites, however, whether they grasp the inherent and therefore unmitigable nature of black failings or not, care not a whit for blacks’ feelings and will gleefully, almost sadistically, make their displeasure with black incompetence known to participant and spectator alike.

All this is a roundabout way to reiterate the infamous CH maxim “Diversity + Proximity = A lot of hurt feelings and suppressed aggravation”. Diversity is not our strength or our moon landing; it is our miseries heaped atop miseries, only prevented from exploding in a cataclysm of spite by wealth transfers (aka paid ransom) from Whites to nonWhites.
It is always a shock to Americans to discover that not only do most not-Americans not want to become Americans, but that in many cases, the not-Americans don't even regard them as a superior form of humanity worth emulating.

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

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Anonymous Drow Ranger Scimitar June 12, 2017 4:17 PM  

Too bad Chateau Heartist is an alt-retard who shills for the Daily Stormer.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 12, 2017 4:23 PM  

Ostriches.

Avoiding how blacks are treated as sub human by all the world except whites.

It is a terrible continent they come from. So the stereotype isn't without warrant.

Not to mention if history (correct me if I'm wrong ) is what I believe it is, the least Christian and least truly evangelized of all continents.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 12, 2017 4:25 PM  

A little OT-- best comment from the linked CH piece:

Damn Crackers
Holy shit! Real shark attacks mud shark!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-carolina-mother-vacation-loses-122343283.html

And the response (of course) is:

Ironsides
Must have been a Great White shark

Brutal.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 12, 2017 4:27 PM  

Say what? You mean the diversity doesn't celebrate the diversity?

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 12, 2017 4:30 PM  

The Japs thought Americans were clueless, naive idiots prior to WWII, as well. I believe they have learned the maxim: "Don't ever give the Americans reason to get focused."

I think they are confident that a few more decades of diversity should do us in. I'm not certain that we'll end up giving much more than the West Coast.

Malkin did nothing wrong.

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar June 12, 2017 4:31 PM  

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/370176.php

Ace often makes a very good point.
And this one is sort of topic-related.

Anonymous Mark Auld June 12, 2017 4:32 PM  

The truth about sjw's retarded logic will out.The greatness of America that drew the world's people's to our shores died decades ago.

Anonymous I'm Not A Fascist. But My Sons Are. June 12, 2017 4:34 PM  

Diversitards™

Blogger Gospace June 12, 2017 4:34 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

That, in fact, is a problem with Korean, Japanese, and Chinese cultures. They all rank themselves on top, the other two as 2 and 3, The rest of the Asians as well below them, and if you talk to them in private, don't even consider blacks as humans in any real sense. Then there's us white people. French, German, English, Dutch, Americans, all of them at one time or another have defeated Chinese, Japanese, or both. Less interaction with Koreans. Not that they'd fare any better. There's no place for Caucasians in their ranking.

Blogger Whisker biscuit June 12, 2017 4:35 PM  

Given his analysis and excellent prose, I'd say "retard" is the opposite of what he is.

Anonymous VFM #6306 June 12, 2017 4:36 PM  

No Greatness ever drew anyone but the Irish before, and that was because they were broke and starving. A damn potato could have drawn them.

Anonymous JAG June 12, 2017 4:45 PM  

Gospace wrote:In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

That, in fact, is a problem with Korean, Japanese, and Chinese cultures. They all rank themselves on top, the other two as 2 and 3, The rest of the Asians as well below them, and if you talk to them in private, don't even consider blacks as humans in any real sense. Then there's us white people. French, German, English, Dutch, Americans, all of them at one time or another have defeated Chinese, Japanese, or both. Less interaction with Koreans. Not that they'd fare any better. There's no place for Caucasians in their ranking.


There is respect for us even if it is subliminal. Godzilla is a metaphor for American might. Or at least what once was American might.

Blogger Krul June 12, 2017 4:51 PM  

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Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) June 12, 2017 4:53 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

We had the maxim gun and they did not

Anonymous Battlefrog June 12, 2017 4:54 PM  

This is where I grew up. I've never heard the word nigger (hard r) used more openly and disparagingly than among a group of Brazilians I worked with. They were pizza delivery guys and of course blacks consistently do not tip. The Brazilians did not appreciate this.

Blogger James Dixon June 12, 2017 4:55 PM  

> In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

Because we were better at killing than they were.

And we still are. It's a lesson that has to be retaught every few generations though.

Anonymous Dyskord June 12, 2017 5:00 PM  

As a non white multi racial person I can attest to the utter contempt for the Black race among the diversitude.
i have been in the company of Indians and muslims and my own kind , at school and at work and in their homes and none regard blacks as anything but a nuisance. They are cheap labor but worth nothing more. Now and again you may see one as a doctor or lawyer or businessman but its not respect they engender. Rather its the sense they've been elevated to a position ill suited to their abilities.
A common saying remains "You can take a black man out of the bush, but you cant take the bush out of the black man,"
Of course the racism is subtle in a South Africa. It need be, since the Africans rule and have adopted the American identity politics to a T. Not out of any great respect, just because they're too stupid to do anything more than parrot what they see or read or hear.

Anonymous Orville June 12, 2017 5:03 PM  

What would you expect from a people who would believe bald men have nuggets of gold hidden in their skulls.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-40185359

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club June 12, 2017 5:03 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.


"When asked about why he thought his old team was doing so poorly, he replied "Because it's not my old team.""

This fits in quite nicely with your recent post about Boomers: these are not the conquering heroes of the past.

Blogger lowercaseb June 12, 2017 5:04 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:The Japs thought Americans were clueless, naive idiots prior to WWII, as well. I believe they have learned the maxim: "Don't ever give the Americans reason to get focused."

That's also the lesson that the monoparty refuses to learn about the alt-right.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales June 12, 2017 5:04 PM  

"Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long."

While I understand this coming from the Chinese... the Japanese, aside from their immigration laws, are essentially Europeans when it comes to overall naivety and a tendency for unstable bubble societies that'd pop at the slightest, overt or subtle invasion from another country (read: China or the Mujaheddin).

I mean, seriously! The Nips invented baby metal! BABY METAL! If they can seriously wonder why they lost to the west, we can wonder how they ever put up such a fierce fight for the Pacific and Indo-China and other places to begin with too!

Anonymous VFM #7916 June 12, 2017 5:06 PM  

@16 This. Good old fashioned Delta and Beta white males will seek efficiencies in everything, hence mass bombing campaigns, massively destructive weapons, and using machines to impersonally kill everything opposing on the battlefield.

This conflicts with the personal method of war wages by most other cultures, usually prevailing in the end.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky June 12, 2017 5:08 PM  

Unless you want to seriously, seriously piss off an Indonesian, do not mistake him for an African. He will hate your guts, that is an affront to him. Asians despise Africans.

Blogger Timmy3 June 12, 2017 5:09 PM  

Why are Asians losers in history? Why are they losers today? Leadership is in short supply. They are authoritarians or dictators, but can't lead people morally. There's a recent article on the lack of good samaritans in China. That's the issue. The lack of law, faith, and morals. Asians will look after themselves, but not their nation.

Anonymous fop June 12, 2017 5:11 PM  

Bill Cosby did nothing wrong.

Anonymous Renegade Third Worlder June 12, 2017 5:16 PM  

Certainly remind me of this little episode that happened in Kuwait not long ago:

"Cruel woman LAUGHS and films her housemaid as she clings to a seventh-floor balcony before falling and suffering horrific injuries"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4367818/Cruel-woman-films-housemaid-falling-seventh-floor.html

Anonymous BBGKB June 12, 2017 5:18 PM  

If I was stuck in a DieVerse City when the SHTF I would try to make it to Chinatown if I couldn't make it out.

Blogger Flannel Avenger June 12, 2017 5:18 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

Clearly, our internment of Japanese Citizens in preparation for the inevitable Japanese Invasion of the West Coast was just too much for them.

Blogger Azimus June 12, 2017 5:20 PM  

...and even the fuckin mystery meat race orphans...

That man can rap. I mean that is full thermonuclear dig right there...

Blogger Salt June 12, 2017 5:22 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

Japan built itself because of western technology. China built itself because of stolen western technology. The west didn't pay any attention to Japan or China when it built itself. It really didin't care.

Blogger Azimus June 12, 2017 5:24 PM  

VD:
In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.


Answer: Opium, and insufficient ocean-going freight tonnage to mount a US Pac Coast invasion (yes I said it)...

Anonymous badhairday June 12, 2017 5:25 PM  

Do Europeans have a stronger parenting instinct?

Might explain why they are so patient with incompetence.

Anonymous PolarBear June 12, 2017 5:36 PM  

I've experienced an interesting "inverse" of this as well, which is foreigners (almost always marginal white people from another culture/nation, e.g. Persians, Whites from Latin America) will purposely inject some comment in a conversation about blacks, like how we (White Americans) treat(ed) them, how such and such school our kids go to "hardly has any blacks" or where we are from is "wow like, do blacks even live there?"

It's a way of attempting to disarm what these "marginal whites" as I call them, see as a superior culture--meaning the original WASP culture of the US, whether adopted by Irish-Americans or Gallic-Americans, etc. I've had it come up in the strangest of contexts where I can only conclude it was a way to immediately 'one up' me/white Americans and put me on the defensive.

Of course, NONE of these marginal whites (foreign) lives around blacks or comes from any tradition of treating blacks as anything other than sub-human.

Blogger Salt June 12, 2017 5:41 PM  

I don't think you'll find asians doing this -

http://thesmokinggun.com/documents/crime/pennsylvania-waffle-house-brawl-290478

Blogger Charles Martel June 12, 2017 5:45 PM  

Whites take the heat because the Jewish press' function is to isolate the white race (i.e., the members of which were formerly the representatives of Christianity--a distinction which, for the most part, they no longer enjoy) so that it, THE stumbling block to global Zionist rule, can be crushed. So, the Jewish press is careful to avoid mentioning anything about the very real persecution of Negroes by other non-whites.

Blogger Nationalist Flicka June 12, 2017 5:46 PM  

**Asians despise Africans.**

And guess who is taking over Africa?

My MIL is Asian. She won't even go to a black cashier.

"Jay boo jigga boo" has left her lips on several occasions.

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2017 5:48 PM  

VFM #7916 wrote:This conflicts with the personal method of war wages by most other cultures, usually prevailing in the end.

The difference is between tribal warfare and modern warfare with systematically organized armies. Because the modern style wins people switch to it when they get well enough organized to do it. And those who can't, often lose even if they seriously outnumber the other side.

Blogger YIH June 12, 2017 5:48 PM  

Ransom Smith wrote:Ostriches.

Avoiding how blacks are treated as sub human by all the world except whites.

It is a terrible continent they come from. So the stereotype isn't without warrant.

Not to mention if history (correct me if I'm wrong ) is what I believe it is, the least Christian and least truly evangelized of all continents.

http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2014/01/why-do-asians-support-big-government/
What Anti-globalist Expatriate says reminds me of a conversation I had with a man who was mayor of a city in California with a large Chinese population. He could speak Chinese, and he was familiar with the culture.

With some exceptions, he said, most had little interest in adopting American values. Often, however, they would pay lip service to assimilation. Once he challenged a Chinese man who was doing this. The man smiled and replied, “Well, you took this country from the Indians, and we’re going to take it from you.”

He said he would often circulate in the Chinese community and listen to the conversations, without the residents knowing he could understand them. He said their common term for an American was “foreign devil.” (I’ve confirmed this from other sources.) He said they have “no respect” for white Americans and generally regard blacks as amimals. [sic]

I'm not convinced they're wrong in that regard.

Anonymous polarbear June 12, 2017 5:52 PM  

Charles, yep! Jews, the Synagogue, all Jewish clubs, groups, fraternities, community centers, etc...are merely a cover that a particular tribe of Whites (Ashkenazi) use to further their own white tribal interests. Unlike some (here), I fully accept that (all Ashkenazi) Jews are "white", as much as a White Latino or Arab--actually more, culturally--and in doing so, fully recognize that they are "the real racists" -- Zionism is always thrown out as if it was some highly specific religio-ethnic term with deep historical underpinnings.

Zionism would be no different than Anglicanism if everyone of Anglo-Saxon heritage was by default, an Anglican, often went to an Anglican (ONLY) church, had Anglican clubs, community centers, large entrance fees (another way Jews keep others out) and argued that being "Anglican" was really about being Anglo-Saxon on say, your mother's side...

...and then went about protesting those nasty racist "other" white people.

It's a scam. They want to be the ONLY and MASTER white race on the planet.

Blogger Ceerilan June 12, 2017 5:53 PM  

Because the clueless idiocy was introduced only within the last 140 years, with the advent of communism/postmodernism/SJWism.

Blogger Quilp June 12, 2017 5:54 PM  

I try to speak as little as possible to clerks and other service employees these days. I somehow end up causing them to play victim every damn time. the last time was in a state liquor store. I asked the employee, an hispanic female, where the vermouth was located. She had no idea what vermouth was, and when I mentioned that she worked in a liquor store..well thats when the demands that I be patient with her started. When I asked why i have to be patient with her, well then she just raised her voice and started repeating the need for patience over and over. When I pointed out I am the customer, and it is her job to be patient with me, well then I was of course a no good raccciss, evil white man, and the tears started. All I wanted was some damn vermouth for martinis. I wasn't trying to point out anyone's lack of abilities, or deficient knowledge etc...

But repeated instances like that have led me to understand that sometimes just being white makes dealing with other races challenging to say the least, because of the different set of almost opposing expectations of behavior. I know for a fact the twit had worked in that same liquor store for over a year. She wasn't a new employee, and unfortunately my experience with her isn't all that uncommon with the local minorities in general. I'd yell "get off my lawn", but I'll first have to learn the phrase in Spanish.

Blogger Phillip George June 12, 2017 6:07 PM  

again, it's a biblical thingy.....

cover for the uncomely member.
rather than laugh at the village idiot, the Christian will attempt to dress them up as presentable. Cover for their weaknesses.

But, equality here is myth. You don't give them a microphone and the stage if they can't sing.

'celebrating' mediocrity brings everyone down.

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2017 6:08 PM  

polarbear wrote:Zionism is always thrown out as if it was some highly specific religio-ethnic term with deep historical underpinnings.

Zionism is a political movement that started in the nineteenth century. They now implicitly assume that (((they))) always wanted to go back because it gives a better claim to the property they now hold by right of conquest in the Middle East.

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2017 6:11 PM  

Nationalist Flicka wrote:**Asians despise Africans.**

And guess who is taking over Africa?

My MIL is Asian. She won't even go to a black cashier.

"Jay boo jigga boo" has left her lips on several occasions.


What they are taking over in Africa is access to the local resources. I doubt they will ever integrate with the black Africans. They are more different from blacks than we are.

Blogger Bill Halsey June 12, 2017 6:12 PM  

" Whites alone seem to have the ability to grasp the failings of another race and to obligingly adjust their behavior to draw the least amount of attention to the stark racial differences when in the company of members of that race, so that they don’t feel like lessers in the presence of superiors."

A good example:

https://youtu.be/A0C4_88ub_M?t=1h12m44s

The ease with which this Chinese boss was able to berate his African subordinate and his countrymen had my programmed liberal YT sensibility cringing... Despite the fact that it's completely true and an obvious fact.

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2017 6:17 PM  

badhairday wrote:Do Europeans have a stronger parenting instinct?

Might explain why they are so patient with incompetence.


They don't get into it for obvious PC reasons, but there is a strong correlation between climate and child rearing methods. In the arctic a woman absolutely needs the support of a man and the tendency is to raise a few well tended children. If hunting-gathering can be done year around, optimum reproduction is often popping them out one after another, have them out forraging for food early, and only a sperm doaner needed.

Anonymous Reenay June 12, 2017 6:24 PM  

Bill Halsey wrote:A good example:

https://youtu.be/A0C4_88ub_M?t=1h12m44s

The ease with which this Chinese boss was able to berate his African subordinate and his countrymen had my programmed liberal YT sensibility cringing... Despite the fact that it's completely true and an obvious fact.

The deprogramming appears to be working very well for me... I didn't cringe at all. I just laughed when I saw the African guy starting to fight back tears.

But then, I am an aggressive Delta that gets angry at signs of incompetence.

Blogger Kristophr June 12, 2017 6:32 PM  

I blame the KGB takeover of Academia.

They spent decades teaching kids that their own culture was evil, and it took. Never mind that we put men on the moon, and every high and low tech gadget on your property, and all of your services and utilities were invented by men of the west.

Anonymous Hardlee June 12, 2017 6:38 PM  

You have to wonder what's wrong with those whites that can't get along with others or fear others or say crazy things about others instead of just living among others.

Is their DNA screwed up? Did their Parents screw them up?

Probably a bit of both.

Eventually these sad excuses for citizens will go away. That's the good news. Until then, it's enough to simply realize that the folks who run places like CH, VD and other comedy sites are very, very lonely people.

Anonymous Hardlee June 12, 2017 6:41 PM  

"Whites take the heat because the Jewish press' function is to isolate the white race (i.e., the members of which were formerly the representatives of Christianity--a distinction which, for the most part, they no longer enjoy) so that it, THE stumbling block to global Zionist rule, can be crushed. So, the Jewish press is careful to avoid mentioning anything about the very real persecution of Negroes by other non-whites."


Your tin foil hat poureth over.

Anonymous Hardlee June 12, 2017 6:43 PM  

"...and even the fuckin mystery meat race orphans...

That man can rap. I mean that is full thermonuclear dig right there..."


Anyone wanna bet dollars to donuts that this guys meat is massively mysterious??

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY June 12, 2017 6:55 PM  

You mean shekels to bagels, dontcha ?

Blogger VD June 12, 2017 6:55 PM  

THE stumbling block to global Zionist rule, can be crushed.

The Chinese are going to be a very, very big surprise to the Jews with global aspirations. The American Jews are still in total denial about the way in which the Asians - really, the Chinese - are crushing them in the very industries and institutions they dominated in the 20th century.

Blogger weka June 12, 2017 6:56 PM  

They got machine guns. They had better gear than the Brits and yanks at the beginning of the war.

Brits and yanks and logistics killed them anyway.

Anonymous Battlefrog June 12, 2017 7:05 PM  

Hardlee wrote:You have to wonder what's wrong with those whites that can't get along with others or fear others or say crazy things about others instead of just living among others.

Is their DNA screwed up? Did their Parents screw them up?


Whites are the only ones who even try in significant numbers. Therefore the DNA of those "others" must be really screwed up. Hey, you said it, not me.

Anonymous Teapartydoc June 12, 2017 7:12 PM  

I know a family that moved back to the Philippines after winning an imigration lottery because they didn't like it here. They were in a vibrant city, and I think they thought the whole place was like that.

Blogger pyrrhus June 12, 2017 7:14 PM  

I worked for several years in a government organization with many black people, most moderately to college educated....You would not believe the way they will talk to each other if they think management isn't listening, or in some cases, even if management is listening....

Blogger pyrrhus June 12, 2017 7:15 PM  

I should have added, when management is black, nobody cares...

Blogger phunktor June 12, 2017 7:21 PM  

It would be hugely entertaining to be able to click on monikers and see how many share an IP address with each. I've seen recent muttering that the SDL's apparatchiki are already gathering essentially this data, so hey, share the lulz!

Anonymous You Have To Go Back June 12, 2017 7:24 PM  

I fully accept that (all Ashkenazi) Jews are "white", as much as a White Latino or Arab

Of course (((you))) do. Ashkenazi, arabs, persians and latinos are not white. They are at best mixed and therefore do not belong to the white race.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 12, 2017 7:34 PM  

Ashkenazi, arabs, persians and latinos are not white. They are at best mixed and therefore do not belong to the white race.

Technically speaking most Italians aren't​ white.

Sicilians and lower Italy at least. Given the Arab conquests.

Blogger pyrrhus June 12, 2017 7:36 PM  

@16 The US military hasn't defeated an Asian nation, or anyone else, since 1945, so most of the people who remember that are dead....Trump's "Armada" got only jeers from China and NK....

Anonymous LurkingPuppy June 12, 2017 7:38 PM  

Battlefrog wrote:Whites are the only ones who even try in significant numbers. Therefore the DNA of those "others" must be really screwed up. Hey, you said it, not me.
Tiny Duck is the real racist.

Blogger James June 12, 2017 7:40 PM  

>>>>In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.<<<<<
Well, maybe it's proof that culture and education and principles and especially religion really are more important than genetics. I'd say that the reason Europeans in general and Americans in particular ended up changing the world so much the way they did was because of Christianity and the attitude towards truth and beauty and love that goes along with it. Too bad China and Japan are toofa king stupid to figure it out. Too bad Europeans and Americans are toofa king stupid to figure it out. Why is everybody sofa king stupid?

Blogger Doom June 12, 2017 7:43 PM  

It isn't just other non-white meat who hate negros. They have their own pecking order. High yellows win the prize, and will avoid the rest. The blackest are like queers to the more sure Christian enclaves... persons non gratis. Yeah... they hate each other. Heck, that pretty much makes them muslim, one way or another.

Blogger Johnny June 12, 2017 7:44 PM  

weka wrote:They got machine guns. They had better gear than the Brits and yanks at the beginning of the war.

Brits and yanks and logistics killed them anyway.


The Brits got us in, mainly with better propaganda, W Wilson, and control of the sea cables that transmitted news. Lacking our entry it is unclear who would have won. It was a close thing.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 8:21 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:@16 The US military hasn't defeated an Asian nation, or anyone else, since 1945, so most of the people who remember that are dead....Trump's "Armada" got only jeers from China and NK....

I suppose if winning means losing 20 men for every US soldier they manage to kill, our enemies have been doing great.

Who loses wars in the US? The politicians, who send the military to do the job with shackles on, and then piss away the military's achievements a few years later as soon as the media has whipped up enough anti-war sentiment in the general public. But yep, it's totes the military's fault we can't win.

Blogger Buybuydandavis June 12, 2017 8:46 PM  

YIH wrote:

He said he would often circulate in the Chinese community and listen to the conversations, without the residents knowing he could understand them. He said their common term for an American was “foreign devil.”



Oooh, oooh! I think I know that one!

Lofan? The translation I heard was "white devil". Some book by some white fellow living in China, maybe. Loved the term ever since.

Not so surprisingly, when I looked up Lofan online, the "devil" part keeps getting left out.

Personally, I've reveled in it since I was aware of it. It gets sprinkled in my internal dialogue much like Whitey.

Love the new baizuo too. Wish I could find a proper pronunciation for that one.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 8:54 PM  

I did not know whether to put this in the deport the arrogant immigrant thread, the kill the boomer's thread, or this one.

This is more current, so here goes:

Small American City Overwhelmed As Hordes Of Migrants Pour In, Harassing The Locals And Demanding Free Welfare Benefits

Right now Western nations are being invaded by a flood of illegal immigrants. Thanks to open-border policies, lax security, and liberal immigration laws, nations are being overwhelmed and destroyed from within. Such is the case of a small American town that, known for its love of socialism and generous welfare policies have allowed such a flux of foreigners to invade that the city does not know what to do as the migrants are demanding more welfare and even the audacity that the government speak their language and adapt to their ways of life:

http://shoebat.com/2017/06/10/small-american-city-overwhelmed-as-hordes-of-migrants-pour-in-harassing-the-locals-and-demanding-free-welfare-benefits/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+shoebat+%28Walid+Shoebat%29


And, to top it off there is mention of pedophilia.

Blogger Buybuydandavis June 12, 2017 9:01 PM  

VD: In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

Victor Davis Hanson wrote "Carnage and Culture: Landmark Battles in the Rise to Western Power ", where he describes the "western way of war", and it's advantages relative to other cultures.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Give us this day our daily bait, that we may crush our enemies, see their weaksauce driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women, thank you Baby Jesus, Amen ) June 12, 2017 9:08 PM  

1. Drow Ranger Scimitar June 12, 2017 4:17 PM
Too bad Chateau Heartist is an alt-retard who shills for the Daily Stormer.



too bad you're a cuck fag who would have liked to vote for ¡Jeb!

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 9:26 PM  

66. roughcoat

I suppose if winning means losing 20 men for every US soldier they manage to kill, our enemies have been doing great.

Germans who lost to the Soviets in World War Two said the same thing.

The purpose of war ISN'T a pile of skulls.

Our enemies understood that and we did not.

Body counts don't mean a thing.

Who loses wars in the US? The politicians

Of course they do.

"War is the continuation of politics by other means." - von Clausewitz

But yep, it's totes the military's fault we can't win.

Lions led by donkeys.

Lt. Gen. H.R. McMaster ... Saying 'radical Islamic terrorism' is counterproductive

Defence Secretary Jim Mattis... says al-Qaeda terrorists “defame Islam”

Colin Powell ... “you break it, you own it”

David Petraeus: Anti-Muslim bigotry aids Islamist terrorists

General Stanley McChrystal ... their cultural and religious violations, anti-Islamic and indiscriminate use of violence and terror

Marine Corps Gen. John Allen ... tell a positive story, one that highlights our respect – our profound respect for Islam’s proud traditions

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 9:37 PM  

@ 71

You're acting like you're somehow correcting me without actually adding anything new to what I said, other than the false assertion that killing the enemy doesn't help win a war.

I'm sick of ignorant idiots claiming the US military "got its ass kicked", and that is the whole reason I responded. It's moronic to make that claim, especially if the person making it then tries to predict failure in the future based on that premise. Which is precisely what the original comment was doing.

Anonymous Jeff June 12, 2017 9:40 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

The continued flood of Asians into North America would suggest otherwise. They have reached a critical mass in many North American cities already. Forget Mexicans or Muslims. It's the Asians that are the real threat to the West. They have the numbers, the smarts, and the will.

Anonymous view June 12, 2017 9:41 PM  

The real difference maker with USA compared to all else is the second ammendment..as long as that hangs in there i think the nation will survive but If that goes down i think the nation will go down.

Anonymous Jack June 12, 2017 9:51 PM  

The Chinese term for "foreign devil" is yáng guǐ zi in Mandarin, gwei lo in Cantonese. I've been called both in China. It's so common that you get used to it. Some of them don't even realize that they're being insulting, it's just the word they've always used for "foreigner."

https://infogalactic.com/info/Guizi

Here is a chant overheard at a Chinese kindergarten being taught to the three and four year olds:

Meiguoren, hen hao!
Zhongguoren, gen hao!
Ribenren, bu hao!

It means:

Americans, very good!
Chinese, even better!
Japanese, no good!

Blogger Gaiseric June 12, 2017 9:53 PM  

@71. I think Clausewitz got it backwards. Politics is the continuation of war by other means.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 9:53 PM  

Buybuydandavis wrote:Love the new baizuo too. Wish I could find a proper pronunciation for that one.

Buy Joe is close. The "z" is pronounced with the tip of the tongue on the roof of the mouth just behind the tooth roots.

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:03 PM  

72. roughcoat

I'm sick of ignorant idiots claiming the US military "got its ass kicked", and that is the whole reason I responded.

58,000 dead and 304,000 wounded with nothing accomplished.

the false assertion that killing the enemy doesn't help win a war.

Killing the enemy can help or it can hurt the objective. Killing is just a means to an end.

The United States keeps losing because they do not grasp the fundamentals of war.

http://www.historynet.com/interview-with-general-frederick-c-weyand-about-the-american-troops-who-fought-in-the-vietnam-war.htm

You know, you never beat us on the battlefield,’ I told my North Vietnamese counterpart during negotiations in Hanoi a week before the fall of Saigon. He pondered that remark a moment and then replied, ‘That may be so, but it is also irrelevant.’

Blogger Matthew June 12, 2017 10:03 PM  

Hey, Tad!

Didn't you hear? It's jubilee for trolls.

You can comment under your name again.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 10:07 PM  

Further to critiquing the idea that losing wars is the military's fault because they kill too many people or something...

What the hell do you expect the military to do, precisely? How many tools do you think they have? When I was in the infantry, I had four options regarding dealing with people: talk to them, kill them, don't kill them, or capture them. Or any combination of those options. Capturing them was generally pointless because they'd just get released a week later. And trying to talk to them and befriend them resulted in "green" on blue attacks more than once. I came to view green forces as net negatives, to be honest.

The military en masse is not a police force, and it's not a social engineering team. Trying to use it that way is an obvious recipe for failure, and the failure is not the military's fault any more than it's a table saw's fault if your lose fingers trying to trim your nails with the spinning blade.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 10:09 PM  

Wars are lost by politicians.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 10:09 PM  

@ 78

And again, you said nothing other than what I already said.

And here's a question for you, since you so thoroughly grasp the fundamentals of war: how do you win a war?

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:11 PM  

76. Gaiseric

@71. I think Clausewitz got it backwards. Politics is the continuation of war by other means.

That is probably more accurate though politicians try politics first as the lower cost option and then default to war when it fails.

The point though is that war has a purpose beyond that of just violent conflict. If the war is prosecuted in such a way that the purpose cannot be accomplished then you will eventually lose the war regardless of how many battlefield successes you have.

For example trying to turn third world Muslims into first world citizens who respect the rights of man.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 12, 2017 10:12 PM  

"Diversity" is rhetoric and not much more, used to dun contards, only fringe lunatics actually believe in it

Anonymous Shutup Tad June 12, 2017 10:16 PM  

Matthew wrote:Hey, Tad!

Didn't you hear? It's jubilee for trolls.

You can comment under your name again.


Me too?

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:26 PM  

82. roughcoat

how do you win a war?

First you have to understand what it is that you actually want. Is it about nation building? Natural Gas pipelines? Countering Iran?

Second you have to analyse if what you want is in fact possible.

Bush and the US military failed to do this with Iraq.

Sending in the troops is the last decision and the least relevant.

Do you know what the United States wants in Syria? Do you see any clear objective or relevant American interest being served there?

Until you answer the fundamentals you cannot even decide if a military action is a victory or a waste of blood and treasure.

Politics and military action cannot be divorced because the military action wouldn't exist without the political directive.

Vietnam was unwinnable because of the politics of the time and Iraq was unwinnable for the same reason.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 10:37 PM  

Sharrukin wrote:Politics and military action cannot be divorced because the military action wouldn't exist without the political directive.

Vietnam was unwinnable because of the politics of the time and Iraq was unwinnable for the same reason.


And so elaborate. Why does the US not want to win wars?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 12, 2017 10:41 PM  

Johnny wrote:In the arctic a woman absolutely needs the support of a man and the tendency is to raise a few well tended children.

Have you met Eskimo children? They sort of resemble that remark, for some values of well tended.

Blogger roughcoat June 12, 2017 10:42 PM  

@ 86

Incorrect. You're talking about achieving aims that go beyond "winning a war" and may not require a war at all.

Here's how you win a war: you either destroy the ability of the enemy to fight or destroy the will of the enemy to fight. Or both. The end.

How that is achieved depends on the specific target. What you need to do in Iraq is not necessarily what you would need to do in Canada or Japan. Why did we drop atomic bombs on Japan? Was it to be big meanie heads? Why did restraint fail in Iraq? Were we not nice enough?

Politicians lose wars because they lack the stomach to do the things required to convince the enemy to stop fighting and submit. No crop of politicians today would nuke Japan to convince them to surrender. This is in part because of media manipulation of public opinion. Ergo, it is the fault of the modern politicians that the US loses wars, not the military.

Now what did I originally say, that you took exception to?

"Who loses wars in the US? The politicians, who send the military to do the job with shackles on, and then piss away the military's achievements a few years later as soon as the media has whipped up enough anti-war sentiment in the general public. But yep, it's totes the military's fault we can't win."

You have offered nothing that undermines my assertions, nothing that disproves anything I have said. You're talking about fuzzy, nebulous, theoretical stuff, apparently playing some sort of armchair intellectual/strategist role. Well, have fun with that.

Anonymous JAG June 12, 2017 10:49 PM  

OT - I have to share this latest SJW insanity...

http://time.com/4809002/donald-trump-twitter-block-james-comey/

The lawyers for her should be disbarred for this colossal farce. They are claiming this violates the first amendment. Now, there is this old saying about the right to free speech not guaranteeing the right to an audience.

You cannot parody a leftist. It is impossible.

Blogger tuberman June 12, 2017 10:57 PM  

86. Sharrukin

"Bush and the US military failed to do this with Iraq."

Wrong, Bush was and is a Globalist, and he used the US military to expand Globalism. Thus from his and other Globalist's perspective, Bush and Globalism won.

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:57 PM  

87. Lazarus

Why does the US not want to win wars?

Too busy lying to themselves about what they are doing?

Lets invade Iraq to build a democratic stronghold in the Middle East and save those Kurds from the bad man, but the 800,000 dead in Rwanda and the millions dead in the Congo can be ignored because they have no oil or gas.

If you see yourself as a morally tainted do-gooder you will have a hard time admitting you are in it for monetary, political, or strategic advantage as well as the income from the military contracts you are awarding and receiving.

Democracy pimping has replaced pushing bibles in the minds of western leaders. Everything has to be for some altruistic purpose or it lacks legitimacy.

This is why we see manufactured stories about Kuwaiti baby incubators and fake poison gas attacks. Doing something for our own benefit is viewed with horror and the leftists are right that our declared altruistic reasons are an exercise in hypocrisy.

We lack the will and we lack the faith in our own nation to boldly advocate for ourselves.

Given the need to unite the political directive and military action, a nation that confused will only win a war by happenstance.

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 11:02 PM  

91. tuberman

Thus from his and other Globalist's perspective, Bush and Globalism won.

It is entirely possible that an Iraqi collapse into chaos was what they wanted in which case you would be correct. They achieved their war aims.

I suspect they wanted to win and use Iraq to spread their influence to Syria and Iran.

Be that as it may their declared aims were impossible.

Blogger Lazarus June 12, 2017 11:24 PM  

92. Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:57 PM

87. Lazarus

Why does the US not want to win wars?

Too busy lying to themselves about what they are doing?92. Sharrukin June 12, 2017 10:57 PM

Good you put a question mark. I don't buy it.

My sense is that no one is in charge. There is no overarching strategy.
It is like there is a bureaucracy of war that has to spend its budget every year and more so there are no budget cuts the next year.

How vile is that?

Anonymous Sharrukin June 12, 2017 11:32 PM  

94. Lazarus

My sense is that no one is in charge. There is no overarching strategy.

Well I think tuberman has a point about the Globalist agenda. They clearly do have an overarching strategy but they may be hampered by the damage they themselves have done to the nation with its muddled reasoning, bureacratic inertia, self-loathing, incoherance, and out of control altruism.

There are deep state factions arrayed against Trump even with his rather mild changes. Someone at least wants to be in charge.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 13, 2017 12:11 AM  

@59 You Have To Go Back June 12, 2017 7:24 PM
"I fully accept that (all Ashkenazi) Jews are "white", as much as a White Latino or Arab

Of course (((you))) do."

Sing it, brah:
"I'm not White, I'm Jewish"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qcukr82DJcU

@roughcoat

"Who loses wars in the US? The politicians, who send the military to do the job with shackles on, and then piss away the military's achievement"

Yockey's "America's Two Ways of Waging War" is still relevant, after all these years, with respect to this point.

"Do you know what the United States wants in Syria?"

No, but I know what the (((US government))) wants-- to keep the "civil war" going for as long as possible, in order to reduce Syria to a failed state like Libya. Is this a trick question? See the Yinon Plan, or "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm," or several different PNAC documents for further details.

Blogger tz June 13, 2017 12:29 AM  

Refugee regret
I'm not sure if I should pity her, revel in Schadefreude, or thank God my state has fewer than 1/2 dozen refugees.

Blogger tz June 13, 2017 12:30 AM  

Refugee regret
I'm not sure if I should pity her, revel in Schadefreude, or thank God my state has fewer than 1/2 dozen refugees.

Anonymous Eric June 13, 2017 1:27 AM  

did nothing wrong

Blogger pdwalker June 13, 2017 1:27 AM  

Buybuydandavis wrote:Love the new baizuo too. Wish I could find a proper pronunciation for that one.

Google translate is your friend:
https://translate.google.com/#zh-CN/en/%E7%99%BD%E5%B7%A6

Click on the speaker to hear the pronounciation of "bái zuǒ". It's close enough.

Anonymous WHITES! We're doing alright. June 13, 2017 1:53 AM  

VD wrote:THE stumbling block to global Zionist rule, can be crushed.

The Chinese are going to be a very, very big surprise to the Jews with global aspirations. The American Jews are still in total denial about the way in which the Asians - really, the Chinese - are crushing them in the very industries and institutions they dominated in the 20th century.


And how.

The Matt Damon/Chinese movie industry vehicle The Great Wall, for example, was riotous fun. It was at least twice as much fun as Avengers: Age of Ultron. The story certainly made more sense than every Pirates of the Caribbean movie after the second one with Bill Nighy.

Anyway, it's no mystery to white people why we agonize over racial pathologies. Not that any Red Indian would understand it, but pathos and sympathy are 100% white Greek concepts. White people invented guilt.

That said, it's nice living where near universal gun ownership is enshrined in law. It's too bad that white people live in places where that's frowned upon. :-(

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2017 2:32 AM  

I suppose if winning means losing 20 men for every US soldier they manage to kill, our enemies have been doing great.
Yet another clown who doesn't understand war. You win a war by getting the other guy to stop fighting. Kill counts are only tangentially related. That is why the US is utterly ineffective at 4th gen war. We're great at killing people, terrible at getting them to stand down.

Blogger CaseyD June 13, 2017 2:41 AM  

It goes both ways, as anyone who has watched how the blacks treat the asians selling them food or booze through plexiglass can attest.

Blogger CaseyD June 13, 2017 2:48 AM  

He turned a bunch of poonhounds into nationalists along the way. Put down the gamma pipe

Anonymous This guy, he's def a boomer. June 13, 2017 2:55 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:I suppose if winning means losing 20 men for every US soldier they manage to kill, our enemies have been doing great.

Yet another clown who doesn't understand war. You win a war by getting the other guy to stop fighting. Kill counts are only tangentially related. That is why the US is utterly ineffective at 4th gen war. We're great at killing people, terrible at getting them to stand down.


Nobody wins a war.

The US won WWII, and we got the Boomer generation out of it.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Give us this day our daily bait, that we may crush our enemies, see their weaksauce driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women, thank you Baby Jesus, Amen ) June 13, 2017 4:00 AM  

105. This guy, he's def a boomer. June 13, 2017 2:55 AM
Nobody wins a war.



go tell it to George Washington.

Anonymous Alice De Goon June 13, 2017 4:11 AM  

Slightly OT, but here's Aydin Paladin's take on Dindu University, and how Communist Indoctrination (combined with No Child Left Behind policies,) impede the development of the self, resulting in a generation of perpetually spoiled babies. Good stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3olqTASElZs


Blogger Kona Commuter June 13, 2017 4:20 AM  

Apparently at the day without whites at Evergreen college there was a lecture about how Asians are also a problem.

OpenID chronicrpg June 13, 2017 4:32 AM  

@72 "I'm sick of ignorant idiots claiming the US military "got its ass kicked", and that is the whole reason I responded. It's moronic to make that claim, especially if the person making it then tries to predict failure in the future based on that premise. Which is precisely what the original comment was doing."

US military in Vietnam, which I assume is what you're talking about, fed optimistic-sounding bullshit politicians about the prospects of victory, most likely due to their inability to assess the situation honestly, and when the situation exploded in their faces at the moment when they, according to their assurances, had everything under control and on the way to final pacification, they demanded massive additional investment of resources and, most importantly, manpower to win - or to resume their promises of imminent victory. US military leadership bears a huge part of the blame for the debacle.

And @71 is merely pointing that US military leadership of today is also living in a delusion bubble. If your tactics are good but strategy is bad, you'd win battles but lose the war, and that is exactly the problem here.

Blogger phunktor June 13, 2017 5:10 AM  

The US military never engaged the enemy forces that defeated them in Viet Nam - Walter Cronkite, Ted Turner's wife, and their communist ilk. This egregious blunder will not be repeated.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 13, 2017 5:21 AM  

There were no mistakes in Vietnam. The mistake people make in discussing Vietnam is presuming the people behind it were bothered about winning or losing.

They weren't.

Vietnam was decades of increasing funds for politically connected weapons manufacturers.

Until you get your head around a couple of trenchant facts of history and human nature, you will never understand either.

1. There are people in positions of power and influence who will happily destroy entire countries to add a few percentage points to their wealth and power.

2. All the noble-sounding "reasons" are bullshit. All the War on Terror rhetoric, the nation-building democracy-exporting humanitarian intervention baby-saving girl-teaching fag-liberating ... it's ALL bullshit. It's advertising. Propaganda. Public Relations.

The function of all of it is to make obscene evil politically respectable.

Blogger Resident Moron™ June 13, 2017 5:25 AM  

This has nothing to do with the nobility of the military, whose willingness to risk death (and the psychological effects of killing, which are not minor) has been ruthlessly abused by politicians throughout human history.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2017 6:52 AM  

> The US military hasn't defeated an Asian nation, or anyone else, since 1945

We've been playing political games, not fighting a war.

> how do you win a war?

By killing everyone who opposes you. You can sell the women and children off as slaves if you prefer.

> For example trying to turn third world Muslims into first world citizens who respect the rights of man.

If you kill all the Muslims who don't, then by definition you've done that. Of course, there won't be any Muslims left, but a null set is still a set.

> We're great at killing people, terrible at getting them to stand down.

Agreed, but see the null set comment above.

> US military leadership bears a huge part of the blame for the debacle.

At least 50%. But that's to be expected.

Blogger Johnny June 13, 2017 7:10 AM  

There was and is a disconnect between us and the Vietnamese. And it continues. When we talk about us, not them.

Vietnam was occupied by the Chinese for hundreds of years. The population saw us as the new occupier. That gave the North a permanent propaganda advantage. They were Vietnamese and we were not and we never overcame that particular.

Blogger Johnny June 13, 2017 7:22 AM  

It is a bit much to say that in war the body count is tangential in that it can be absolutely central. It depends on the character of the war, by which I mean what the war goals are. If you just want the other side gone killing them all works just fine.

If the character of the war is that it is intramural and the other side is not a permanent enemy, then keeping the body count down can be useful.

Our problem is an unwillingness to be ruthless, thus we do not easily frighten the other side. As a result we up the body count when we do win, and often get these equivical outcomes if not outright losses.

Hitler was ruthless and open about it. He went from being Chancellor of Germany to Der Fuhrer by murdering political opponents. And was completely open about it. He even handed out ceremonial daggers to some of the killers. The body count was around a hundred (I forget the count) and the rest of Germany got the message.

Stalin kept many of his murders secret and the body count needed to retain control ran into the millions. Ruthless but secretive and so he did not pick up the same propaganda value.

Blogger Remo - Vile Faceless Minion #99 June 13, 2017 7:40 AM  

I can give you a Chinese perspective as I've been living in China for several years now. Many Chinese who have traveled to the US know that America is a pathetic dying corpse of a nation and that many American whites are idiots and wholly and willfully ignorant of racial realities. They also know we invented most of the important inventions of the last 500 years (Asians don't have the black obsession with claiming others accomplishments) so they wonder what the hell happened to us.

The Chinese do *not* tolerate the level of black jaboonery that Americans put up with and regard Americans as weak and crazy for doing so.

Blogger Daniel June 13, 2017 8:10 AM  

the other races' men know really well that you cannot let your women around blacks. You end up having what you have now: lots of married woman are black man mistresses because of a lot of factors, and that can only bring inhappiness, broken families, fucked uo selfsteems and who knows what more.

Blogger Cail Corishev June 13, 2017 8:20 AM  

The US military never engaged the enemy forces that defeated them in Viet Nam - Walter Cronkite, Ted Turner's wife, and their communist ilk. This egregious blunder will not be repeated.

Absolutely not. They would never let the spiritual descendants of those people browbeat them into marching cadets around in red high heels, for instance. Not a chance.

Blogger Doom June 13, 2017 8:27 AM  

Sharrukin, 93.,

"Lets invade Iraq to build a democratic stronghold in the Middle East and save those Kurds from the bad man, but the 800,000 dead in Rwanda and the millions dead in the Congo can be ignored because they have no oil or gas."

Are you crazy? Of course! Gas and oil are vital to our national needs. There is a reason to be involved with that. Rwanda? Seriously? That is for the U.N., if that was what it is supposed to be. As is they were probably better off without the U.N., as bad as that is. They would still have been raped and murdered, only their orphans would have become sex slaves.

The US really can't be the total world police. And it does have a responsibility to attempt to maintain economic order, for ourselves. Was that well done? I seriously doubt if you can honestly say. I can't be absolutely sure, I know that. No matter how much I read, it's just garbage opinion. Very little is well thought through, compared to other options, and such.

The world is only better or worse, this way or that. I don't think most are very good at discerning that. History, and far from the points, is the better judge... save that historians are converged... may never really know, certainly not in our lifetime. Even then, it really will be opinion. Was this worth that? Dunno.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 13, 2017 9:29 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:We're great at killing people, terrible at getting them to stand down.

Dead people ARE stood down. We need to get better at killing.

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2017 9:49 AM  

And again, complete failure to understand. This inability to think is why we are unable to win 4th generation war.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 13, 2017 9:50 AM  

I suspect it is a mistake to characterize whites as big hearted and magnanimous when dealing with Negroes. Yes, it is true that whites are less likely to verbally hound them for being simply incompetent, or tardy, or lax in their work. There may be another factor at work...some whites (or many whites) may believe that Negroes are performing at the level of their ability. If you have a low expectation of Negro ability, there is no reason to believe they CAN be competent. There is no reason to push them to do better when they cannot. It would make just as much sense beating a retarded kid for not being able to solve differential equations in his head. He simply cannot do it, nor was he ever expected to do it. He was hired (in part) for his low productivity and paid accordingly. Ability was not part of the deal.

Perhaps it is true that other non-whites give the Negro a hard time and tolerate none of his usual excuses and baloney, BECAUSE they actually believe the Negro CAN do better, CAN be competent.....perhaps not the equal of everyone else, but certainly better than what we often observe. Maybe they push the Negro because they believe he can do better.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 13, 2017 10:10 AM  

@117 Remo
The Chinese find it strangely Western to decide that something is a GOOD thing or a BAD thing, when it is actually impossible to know these things, even in retrospect.

The Chinese have a perfectly delightful story about a bow hunter in the forest. He sees a deer within range, an easy shot....so this must be a GOOD thing. But just before he can shoot, a horse runs up and scares off the deer...a BAD thing. But the hunter is able to capture the horse...a GOOD thing. So the hunter takes the horse home and locks him in the barn....a GOOD thing. But during the night, the horse destroys the barn doors and escapes...a BAD thing. But the horse returns the next morning with three mares...yes, a GOOD thing. So the hunter's son tries to ride one of the horses....a GOOD thing, but falls off the horse and breaks his leg. Another BAD thing. But the next day, the army comes through the area conscripting all the young men into the army....except his son, because of his broken leg...so that must be a GOOD thing after all.

It is a much longer story, but the lesson must be clear from my little sketch. In the West we tend to characterize events as GOOD and BAD when such things cannot be known with certainty. All we really know is how we feel at the time. How these events actually play out are impossible to anticipate.

Blogger Timmy3 June 13, 2017 10:32 AM  

The Chinese say things are GOOD and BAD all the time. They don't say things in moral terms. It's mostly about saving face, not embarrassing your parents although there's a contradiction where they are embarrassed anyways.

Anonymous Dead soldiers don't build anything June 13, 2017 10:39 AM  

((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Give us this day our daily bait, that we may crush our enemies, see their weaksauce driven before us and hear the lamentations of their women, thank you Baby Jesus, Amen ) wrote:105. This guy, he's def a boomer. June 13, 2017 2:55 AM

Nobody wins a war.


go tell it to George Washington.


Fun question time!

Which do you think GW would be more surprised by?

(1) 600,000 dead to end slavery, or;

(2) Moldbug advocating a return to a monarchy?

Nobody wins a war. If you think you did win a war, you didn't count the opportunity costs.

Anonymous DonReynolds June 13, 2017 10:44 AM  

@110 chronicrpg
There is an assumption of maturity that the public has of military officers. I have been disappointed to find that adult maturity is often lacking. What I have noticed is a certain amount of petulance bordering on 14 year olds.

Under our system of government, the military officers consider themselves to be the sole authority on military matters. Their assessments cannot be questioned without provoking anger. Their judgement is final and absolute, but unfortunately they must secure political approval for their access to the public treasury.

When the Pentagon assessment was that it would take 750,000 ground troops in Vietnam to win the effort and secure the country....the last thing they are going to do is prove themselves wrong. When peak US ground troops was achieved at 550,000 troops, they did not know that was the peak, they were still expecting another 200,000. It was the political authority that held the line on ground forces. Too many people wondered aloud whether the war could be won with two-thirds of the troops requested, if we added enough air power. Maybe the CIA could recruit more natives. Maybe technology would give us the winning edge. Wars are terribly expensive and politicians know nothing about wars, except that they must be paid for from the treasury. Everybody wanted to fight the Vietnam war on the cheap and they thought superior technology and air power was such a force multiplier that the war could be won with much fewer troops on the ground....thus cheaper.

Some of the same people are still trying to prove this doctrine, both in the military and the political leadership. This amounts to a repudiation of the Eisenhower doctrine, and continues to guide military planners....the ultimate conclusion being very few troops with a great deal of high tech weapons, but unable to use them on the enemy. So we cut out the US troops on the ground, provide the high tech weapons to our temporary friends, and they will be ruthless instead of us.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey June 13, 2017 10:51 AM  

@120 Doom
Sharrukin, 93.

"Lets invade Iraq to build a democratic stronghold in the Middle East and save those Kurds from the bad man, but the 800,000 dead in Rwanda and the millions dead in the Congo can be ignored because they have no oil or gas."

"Are you crazy? Of course! Gas and oil are vital to our national needs. There is a reason to be involved with that"

China and Japan both purchase more oil from the Middle East than we do. How much have they spent, in lives and shekels, on Middle Eats wars? Our Middle East adventures have far more to do with acting as a proxy army for a certain small desert tribal country in the region than with oil, or with any other actual US national interest.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 13, 2017 10:56 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:And again, complete failure to understand. This inability to think is why we are unable to win 4th generation war.

Snidely, if we want to convert our enemies to friends, we need to first get them to stand down. If we want to take the Conquest of Jericho approach, we need to get better at killing. For Progressives, mohammedans and their satanic ilk, I prefer the approach of Joshua 6:21.

We have the technology, we just need the will.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 13, 2017 10:58 AM  

DonReynolds wrote:There may be another factor at work...some whites (or many whites) may believe that Negroes are performing at the level of their ability. If you have a low expectation of Negro ability, there is no reason to believe they CAN be competent. There is no reason to push them to do better when they cannot.

Affirmative action in a nutshell. Low expectations aren't soft bigotry when they are accurate expectations.

Blogger Dr Caveman June 13, 2017 11:10 AM  

I know quite a few Chinese who feel the exact same way. They are here to take over. In a way, they already have. Pick any kind of tech or financial company in a big US city and see how many Asians work there. Whites are already a minority in those sectors

Blogger Robert Browning June 13, 2017 12:45 PM  

Ask an Asian if they have ever been attacked by a black. You will be shocked the majority have been attacked or robbed by blacks.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 13, 2017 1:16 PM  

In fact, many, if not most, Asians look at the West these days and wonder how on Earth both China and Japan ended up losing so badly to such clueless, naive idiots for so long.

Probably because when it happened, we weren't clueless naive idiots, but were, in fact, better than them.

Blogger Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus June 13, 2017 1:47 PM  

@123 Perhaps it is true that other non-whites give the Negro a hard time and tolerate none of his usual excuses and baloney, BECAUSE they actually believe the Negro CAN do better, CAN be competent.....perhaps not the equal of everyone else, but certainly better than what we often observe. Maybe they push the Negro because they believe he can do better.

Likely the result of less familiarity with them.

Anonymous Snidely Whiplash June 13, 2017 2:03 PM  

We have the technology, we just need the will.
Oh great, another Nietschean ubermensch. You realize there is a victorious middle ground between mass muder and vitue signalling, right?

Blogger Robert What? June 13, 2017 3:15 PM  

I've made this point in the past. This is because Whites (specifically White Christian men) are the only group who are willing to give the "other" a fair shake. As long as the "other" were willing to abide by the rules and act in good faith. However in most cases now, the "others" are no longer willing to abide by the rules and act in good faith. So White Christian men have to change to survive. And if the cost of change is unacceptable, then, they won't survive.

Blogger Tuatha June 13, 2017 3:40 PM  

"You realize there is a victorious middle ground between mass muder and vitue signalling, right?"

Behold, the ever spiraling downwards intellect of the average crusader larp fetishist.

Blogger James Dixon June 13, 2017 4:03 PM  

> This inability to think is why we are unable to win 4th generation war.

Well, 4th generation war isn't war in the classical sense, is it? That's why it's classified separately.

> You realize there is a victorious middle ground between mass muder and vitue signalling, right?

If you're in a war, you're already engaged in mass murder. That's what war is.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd June 13, 2017 6:44 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:You realize there is a victorious middle ground between mass muder and vitue signalling, right?

War isn't murder. Victory requires unconditional surrender, and the mohammedans at least cannot surrender, short of apostasy. They can lie, and pretend to surrender, but they cannot surrender.

Generations of temporizing and compromising got us into this fix. Do you really think that more compromise will get us out of it?

Anonymous Daniel H June 13, 2017 9:10 PM  

I lived in one of these diversitopias (Astoria, Queens, NY) for about 30 years. During my tenure the neighborhood developed from solidly, predominantly white (albeit, "ethnic white". You know, Greek, Italian, Irish, Eastern European, some Puerto Ricans) into the gorgeous mosaic that the shitlibs are always threatening as our enlightened future. Now, in addition to the previous mentioned whites the neighborhood is marbled with Hindus, Pakis, Bengalis, Central and South Americans from every country, Chinese, Koreans, Indonesian, Thais, Central Asians, Turks, Albanians, SWPLS (off broadway productions in the neighborhood now), gays (gay clubs. Once, this could not have even been contemplated in this neighborhood) and on an on. One people is absent from the neighborhood: black Americans. The vast majority of the rental housing stock in this neighborhood is in the hands of these recent migrants. They refuse to rent to blacks. There is some public housing on the outer fringes of the neighborhood and blacks live there, but i imagine only so long as they have some political clout in the city.

And not only do these migrants refuse to rent to blacks, they make it known that they are not very welcome (other then the well presented SWPL black, here or there) in the commercial and entertainment venues. I witnessed one of the most brutal assaults of my life once outside a hip international club run by some Albanians. Some black kids were passing through on their way to the projects and were acting up. Not in a threatening way - I didn't feel threatened. Anyway, They stopped to look in the club. A few words were exchanged and a burly, roided up Albanian bouncer came charing out and full swing cracked a kid on the side of the head with a baseball bat. The kid dropped and was convulsing and foaming blood at the mouth within seconds. They Albanians hustled their compatriot into a car and sped off and I'm sure the police never found him. I think that the kid survived. 20 minutes later the foaming and convulsions had stopped and he was sitting up. But who knows what lasting damage was done. Anyway, 3 or 4 times per year the NY Times writes a glowing essay about this wonderful neighborhood, our future (and you better get used to it, damnit), but curiously they never notice the lack of black faces walking the streets or celebrating and partying in the clubs and restaurants.

I came to hate this neighborhood. Increasingly I felt more and more alienated, the ground continuously moving under my fee. I took comfort only in stalwart institution that could not change, would have to die rather than change: the elevated subway line, the dingy Irish bars, the greasy spoon diners, the local Catholic Church, the local library. I treasured these more than a thousand glitzy manifestations of onrushing diversity. Finally couldn't take it anymore. Moved out 7 years ago, won't be back.

Blogger JP June 14, 2017 1:24 AM  

"Too busy lying to themselves about what they are doing?"

Bullshit. Americans fought both world wars for total lies, and they were still determined enough to win them. It's pretty simple: the elites wanted us to win then, because we were a useful tool. They don't want us to win now, because we're an obstacle to their plans. The rest is just window dressing.

Blogger Todd Brown June 15, 2017 7:47 AM  

Daily Stormer did nothing wrong.

Anonymous Avalanche June 18, 2017 8:16 AM  

@23 "seriously piss off an Indonesian, do not mistake him for an African."

Indian "Saint" Gandhi was incensed to be considered by South Africans to be 'just another black.' One of the reason Gandhi LEFT Africa to go back to India. But you have to look hard to find THAT part of his story!

Anonymous Avalanche June 18, 2017 12:30 PM  

@44 "What [the Chinese] are taking over in Africa is access to the local resources. I doubt they will ever integrate with the black Africans. They are more different from blacks than we are."

The Chinese, however, have nothing even CLOSE to "White guilt." They will ruthlessly (and happily) allow africans to die without "aid and charity" and watch sans emotion (unless they're betting for one side or the other) at they kill each other in their TNB.

The Chinese want the land and resources; they don't give a rat's pattooty about "the humanity" -- cause africans are not all the way human!

Anonymous Avalanche June 18, 2017 12:32 PM  

@45 "Whites alone seem to have the ability to grasp the failings of another race and to obligingly adjust their behavior to draw the least amount of attention to the stark racial differences when in the company of members of that race, so that they don’t feel like lessers in the presence of superiors."

We didn't USED to -- until (((someone))) came in and began the brainwashing campaigns!!

Anonymous Avalanche June 18, 2017 12:45 PM  

@74 "The continued flood of Asians into North America would suggest otherwise. They have reached a critical mass in many North American cities already. Forget Mexicans or Muslims. It's the Asians that are the real threat to the West. They have the numbers, the smarts, and the will."

As Vox described in a Dark Stream: high-performance, low-trust: they (well, the Chinese) can "perform" at a similar level, but lack our open-handed trust -- which is so often betrayed!

Anonymous Avalanche June 18, 2017 1:00 PM  

@934 "the 800,000 dead in Rwanda and the millions dead in the Congo can be ignored because they have no oil or gas."

They should be ignored because they have no purpose ON THE PLANET! When the whole Hutu/Tutsi bloodbath began, "The Atlantic," in an article trying to encourage the u.S. to intervene, actually included IN the article, that our intervention would change NOTHING and stop NOTHING long-term, and, even if we succeeded in stopping THIS tribal fighting, they'd go right back to their usual tribal massacres -- AFTER we had intervened and killed or maimed a bunch of YOUNG AMERICANS for NO purpose of any interest to us!

On what basis do you want to sacrifice some family's child or father? How will you recompense a family whose child has come home too brain-damaged to function, or too crippled to ever work? FOR WHOM and FOR WHAT -- and how many of YOUR family are you going to offer up to fruitless stupidity!?

Ignore them?! Let them have at it! There is not a single American (or, more correctly, White Western!) life worth intervening in that continent! 100% NOT our zoo and not our monkeys!!

Anonymous AlmostAnonymous June 19, 2017 12:38 AM  

@147 Years ago, I would have been shocked at your words.

Now? If millions of them die and not one Western life is involuntarily shed try to stop it (this time) then I will sleep very well indeed.

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