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Wednesday, July 26, 2017

All Americans are now antisemites



Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
It seems #AIPAC has forgotten with whom they are dealing. Americans will not give up their First Amendment for Israel's sake.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
I mean, since Israel is America's only ally in the ME, why would anyone want to boycott them in the first place?

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
That's irrelevant. Obviously some Americans do. And that is absolutely their First Amendment right.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism, and therefore is religious discrimination. Would rather have terrorism over not being able to boycott an allied country. That makes sense.

Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
We don't give a damn. Try to fuck with the First Amendment and you go right to #1 on the enemy's list.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
You sound ridiculous, wanting terrorism over the ability to boycott an ally. Just don't buy our stuff if you don't like us, no need4 boycott

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
We don't give a damn what you think. Americans killed their British brethren for those rights. Americans will kill Jews for them if need be.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
This is the anti-Semitism we deal with on a daily basis. It really is so disheartening

Isaac Hebestein, Rabbinics Curriculum Coordinator at Academy for Jewish Religion and Adjunct Assistant Professor at HUC-JIR, New York, New York.


It's rather astonishing, actually, to observe how many Diasporans clearly have no understanding whatsoever of Americans or how Americans will react to this proposed law. I knew Jews are not Americans, of course, by definition, but I didn't understand how utterly foreign the American perspective is to many of them until now. The following was the truly funny part of the exchange. Mr. Hebestein clearly didn't understand why some Americans are very much supportive of the idea of an AIPAC-endorsed federal law against the criticism and boycotting of Israel.

Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
We don't give a damn. Try to fuck with the First Amendment and you go right to #1 on the enemy's list.

Zorost_Risen @JoeWatson1414
You convinced me, I now support a law against BDS

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein<
With civil discourse, even the most defiant can be won over. Fight the good fight. Shalom.

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Anonymous RB July 26, 2017 2:24 PM  

Wow his name is really Hebestein

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros July 26, 2017 2:29 PM  

"Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism"

Uhhhhh
I mean, maybe in some cases?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2017 2:29 PM  

I'm not buying any Israeli products because I don't want to, now do I go to jail?

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 2:29 PM  

I have to go back.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 26, 2017 2:30 PM  

Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism, and therefore is religious discrimination

Therefore apple car trotting the valiant purple. Some ways, owned the flea harness of lug nut. Ergo, cafeteria pizza.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 26, 2017 2:30 PM  

Up next: Vox debates Shlomo Red Sea Pedestrian on Twitter!

Blogger dh July 26, 2017 2:31 PM  

I can't fathom how this law, under any Court, would be upheld. It seems transparently un-Constitutional even under the current tortured definitions of the limits of free discourse and association, it's wildly new restrictive grounds.

Anonymous AzDesertRat July 26, 2017 2:31 PM  

Exhibit A for "They Have To Go Back"

Anonymous RCFlyer July 26, 2017 2:33 PM  

Vox, we need a celebratory thread for the God Emperor's tranny ban.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 26, 2017 2:35 PM  

defiant

^ Everybody catch that...?

Blogger modsquad July 26, 2017 2:35 PM  

Religious discrimination? Who's not allowed to become an Israeli citizen due to their religion?

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 2:35 PM  

"Would rather have terrorism over not being able to boycott an allied country"

This talking point must be important, because he repeats it. But I can't make out what on earth it's supposed to mean.

Blogger pyrrhus July 26, 2017 2:36 PM  

Modern Zionism has deranged the whole Jewish race. I worked with a lot of Jewish lawyers back in the day. While they supported Israel, they also strongly supported the 1st Amendment, to the point that they refused to support a ban on Nazis marching in Skokie.....Their support for the abomination also fits with the rapidly dropping IQ of Americans (and Israelis, I believe).

Anonymous patrick kelly July 26, 2017 2:36 PM  

Rabbi B wrote:I have to go back.

Hah, your a funny guy, please come back and visit.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2017 2:37 PM  

Basically there are provisions in this law that will beg its auto-delegitimization

Anonymous Faceless July 26, 2017 2:38 PM  

This ally line he claims... Jordan has been a reasonable ally since we injected some American DNA into their royal line. Saudi Arabia is our military ally - that's why they got the arms deal even though they fund terrorism. Kuwait and UAE are allies. If you aren't going to rely on a mutual protection treaty with obligations, but use a more colloquial term for ally, we have a lot of Arab and Hashemite allies over there in addition to Israel. We have a lot of Sunnis who are our allies on paper, even if they are the source of many of our problems. The new Egypt has been pretty good since the Muslim Brotherhood Friends of Obama was removed.

And, don't forget, our one ally we're absolutely, iron-clad required to defend over there is not Israel, it's Turkey. So, if Israel fires upon Turks while they are partitioning Syria, so long as NATO stands, we side with the Turk.

Anonymous Luca Brayson July 26, 2017 2:39 PM  

We will treat you exactly the same as we treated our British cousins.

ANTISEMITE!!1!

Anonymous patrick kelly July 26, 2017 2:39 PM  

tublecane wrote:"Would rather have terrorism over not being able to boycott an allied country"

This talking point must be important, because he repeats it. But I can't make out what on earth it's supposed to mean.


Boycotting is terrorism? Boycotting causes terrorism? Jews will become terrorists if I boycott? I'm so confused.

Israel is fighting terrorism over there so we don't have to? Oh wait, that's not working either.

I give up.

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 2:40 PM  

"the therefore is religious discrimination"

Hey, buddy, you played the wrong card. The race card is the trump, not the religion card.

Or is he in race doesn't exist mode?

Or is he in Jews, specifically, aren't a race, just a collection of likeminded almost-Americans of a certain religion mode?

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 2:40 PM  

The only thing worse would be an attack on the 2nd Amendment, but Hebestein is from New York.
But it has NOT gone unnoticed how many Jews are calling for gun control.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein<
With civil discourse, even the most defiant can be won over. Fight the good fight. Shalom.


He needs to call that Imam in California calling for the annihilation of all Jews and see how long it takes for the civil discource to win him over.

Also, if civil discourse worse so well, why is there a problem with Palestinians in Irael.

Blogger Luke (alias "Lines With Chrome") July 26, 2017 2:43 PM  

"Oy veh, why do they persecute us so?"

Anonymous Bobby Farr July 26, 2017 2:43 PM  

When you have living caricatures like Isaac Hebestein publicly calling for the First Amendment to include an exception for criticism of Israel, I'm not sure what work would be left to do for an anti-Semite seeking to demonize the jews.

Anonymous Athor Pel July 26, 2017 2:44 PM  

" Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism, and therefore is religious discrimination. Would rather have terrorism over not being able to boycott an allied country. That makes sense."



Religious discrimination he says. Hmmm.

Mr. Hebestain believes being a semite is membership in a religion. That is curious.

What is obvious is that he doesn't want to identify too emphatically with what he really is, not-an-American, so he points the reader in a different direction while using a guilt inducing religious screen. How convenient.

Shuck and jive all you want Mr. Hebestain the day is coming where it won't work anymore.

Blogger Dave July 26, 2017 2:47 PM  

since Israel is America's only ally in the ME

Whoa, what happened to the Saudis? Don't we Americans call them allies?

Blogger c0pperheaded July 26, 2017 2:47 PM  

Christians need a catchy term like "anti-semitic", but for us.

Blogger Jan Minář July 26, 2017 2:48 PM  

How many Americans give a damn about the unconstitutional 4th-Amendment wholesale surveillance? American employees and students have no practical freedom of speech (while retaining freedom from government infringement to their theoretical freedom of speech), and they don't seem much to care about that.

I do care deeply, and I am amazed that people wouldn't; but square this circle for me, please.

Blogger SomeAsshole July 26, 2017 2:49 PM  

Lol, Hebestein

Fucking HEBEstein

Best timeline

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 2:49 PM  

@20-Because Palestinians are sub-human?

Notice his "civil discourse" (who says "discourse" besides college professors, anyway?)consisted of threatening terrorism (somehow, though I'm still not sure what he meant) and calling someone an anti-semite, which is effectively a swear word.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 26, 2017 2:49 PM  

I have to go back.

Don't worry Rabbi B, we promise to kill you last.

Now stop being so anti-semitic.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 26, 2017 2:50 PM  

If we boycott terrorists, the terrorists win.

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 2:51 PM  

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein<
With civil discourse, even the most defiant can be won over. Fight the good fight. Shalom.


So lets only Boycott, Divest, and Sanction Israel until "civil discourse" with the Palestinians - even the most defiant - are won over - and we have Shalom - peace between them.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 26, 2017 2:51 PM  

How many Americans give a damn

All the ones that need to to create more that do.

Anonymous Eduardo July 26, 2017 2:52 PM  

@12

I know this might be sarcasm, but he is saying: Would you rather have terrorists but being able to boycott Israel, or have no terrorist but being unable to boycott Israel.

Like a zero-sum game.


Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 2:54 PM  

"'Americans killed their British brethren for those rights. Americans will kill Jews for them if need be.'

'This is the anti-Semitism we deal with on a daily basis...'"

That's it? Being treated like Americans treated their fellow-Englishmen? Then wait are you complaining about?

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 2:54 PM  

@4 - You probably don't, as long as you aren't mistaken for an anti-ethno-American.

Besides, if you go back, you will have to deal with all those who will have fled that voted for Obama and Clinton.

There were Jews here at the time of the American Revolution and I don't know how many if any were Loyalists.

But here is a critical question - would you feel safer, better, among peers and friends at an NPI rally or an AIPAC conference?

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable July 26, 2017 2:57 PM  

I have to go back.

Which is a shame for us, because from this country's perspective, your the last one who needs to go back.

Here's hoping they let you, though, before things get ugly.

Anonymous Nibiru July 26, 2017 2:58 PM  

``Just don`t buy our stuff if you don`t like us, no need4 boycott.`` Uhnnn. [scratches head] What does that mean? How else does this guy define `boycott`. Either he has been smoking something or he`s a post-mod writer.

Blogger Dorsal Spine July 26, 2017 3:00 PM  

To paraphrase a well known actor. You can have my First Amendment when you can pry my Second Amendment out of my cold dead hands.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 3:03 PM  

Here's hoping they let you, though, before things get ugly.

Yeah. It looks like our next step is going to be hiring a lawyer in Israel who specializes in cases like ours.

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 3:04 PM  

Hebe on his masthead says "America Stands with Israel".
For the last few decades, it seems to have been changed to "America bends over for Israel".
What does Hebe think about the Rainbow Flags with the star of David? And/or their getting banned.

It is one of the ironies ( is it (((Frankenstein)))?) is that the LGBTQ, Muslims, and the left outside of the Banksters financing the nooses are becoming far more anti-Semitic than anything on the right.

The alt-Right recognizes that Jews have some knd of privileged position and engage in nepotism so violate the rule of law, so mostly dislike the practices or unequal treatment first and notice demogrphics second.

The left simply uses the identity groups then discards them. Jews were useful for providing cash to get the anti-Semitic immigrants and refugees in, but Jews aren't needed for their votes now, but their cash and deluded ideals are useful. They are not so much useful idiots as they have high-IQs, but useful fools who lack wisdom. Like the Jews that waited in Europe thinking the Nazis weren't going to go on identity. The left has been identity based (why doesn't Obama remember all Jews did for blacks?).

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( more Natural Born Kekistani than if my mother was a native of Moorhead MN and my father came from Cockram Mill VA ... so to speak ) July 26, 2017 3:05 PM  

a - South Africa was just about the only American ally left south of the Sahara, and US Jews were primary movers in getting US participation in the international boycott of our ally
...
so clearly the dear Rabbi-notB has no problem with boycotting friends of the US.

b - saying Israel is the only US ally in the ME is a bald faced lie ... Egypt does what we tell them, we occupy Iraq, Jordan has been friendly to us for a long time, if we would just turn Lebanon over the Christians we'd have a BETTER friend.

12. tublecane July 26, 2017 2:35 PM
This talking point must be important, because he repeats it. But I can't make out what on earth it's supposed to mean.




the clauses are in opposition to each other.

ie - he would rather that Muslims be allowed to blow up American Goyim than allow American Goyim to boycott an ((( allied country ))).

which, strangely enough, is exactly what his proposed law would complete ( given that we've already got Musloids running around blowing shit up ).

26. Jan Minář July 26, 2017 2:48 PM
I do care deeply, and I am amazed that people wouldn't; but square this circle for me, please.



Vox already answered this question earlier today.


http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/07/college-graduates-are-stupid.html

and HEBE-stein, yeah, that really does take the cake.

Anonymous johnc July 26, 2017 3:06 PM  

"Israel is America's only ally / democracy in the ME" is always the go-to line with these people.

Blogger Kauf Buch July 26, 2017 3:07 PM  

I would have responded to they guy with:
"Ya don't like BDS?! Take your complaint to the American Left; they're the only ones doing that. The moment you wanna make it a law for all Americans, you're fucking with us. That you don't understand the difference reveals your ignorance of America. Come back when you've learned the difference."
But, hey, that's just me.

Anonymous Cassie July 26, 2017 3:08 PM  

Nibiru: "How else does this guy define `boycott`"

He means, you can decide not to buy something, but if you tell anyone else why you're not buying it and encourage them not to buy it as well, then you're a hatey hater poopyhead and you should go to jail.

Totalitarians are very afraid of preference cascades, which is why they hate freedom of speech.

Anonymous nobody July 26, 2017 3:10 PM  

different peoples don't just have different views on morality there is a genetic component also imo

"Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism"

well don't support open borders then

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable July 26, 2017 3:12 PM  

Yeah. It looks like our next step is going to be hiring a lawyer in Israel who specializes in cases like ours.

Will be praying.

Blogger Crank July 26, 2017 3:14 PM  

I think that guy must be a spoof account.

Anonymous America Firster July 26, 2017 3:15 PM  

Time to face facts: Jews are the enemy. They must be purged from the west.

Blogger lowercaseb July 26, 2017 3:18 PM  

Just don't buy our stuff if you don't like us, no need4 boycott

Hmmm...does this mean he can be prosecuted under the new law? Here he is advocating for our host to boycott Israel without boycotting.

Also, did he cry out in pain while composing those tweets?

Anonymous kfg July 26, 2017 3:19 PM  

"This is the anti-Semitism we deal with on a daily basis."

He said it himself. No coercion. No leading. Just spit it right out on his own accord. He has to own it himself.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl July 26, 2017 3:21 PM  

If the Recucks were so concerned about universities boycotting Israel, they'd purge the universities, not gut the First Amendment.

But Recucks are nothing if not dumb and shallow creatures also desperate for votes. "UH, dur, Trump like Israel think I do? Maybe we do that too. Oh look, money!"

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 26, 2017 3:21 PM  

@4 to paraphrase Ike re Somoza you might be a rabbi son of a butch but your our son of a bitch. You can stay

Anonymous Mike Rock July 26, 2017 3:26 PM  

Hebestein from Hebe-stan?

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 3:28 PM  

Rabbi B, you're a Christian, so I don't know where "back" is. Suggest you stay in America and fight AIPAC's overreach.

Blogger VD July 26, 2017 3:31 PM  

I think that guy must be a spoof account.

You would think so, but I've gotten email from other Diasporans expressing very similar sentiments. They seriously do not get it. It's like they cannot believe that Americans have any principles at all, which, to be honest, is a little understandable in light of their limited experience of America.

Anonymous TS July 26, 2017 3:31 PM  

"And therefore is religious discrimination..."

So he argues for eliminating a right by saying it "violates" another right!? LOL Just like women.

Anonymous TS July 26, 2017 3:34 PM  

The same sort of "logic" is used for raising the minimum wage.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 3:35 PM  

@54 Shimshon

My belief in the Messiah does not alter my DNA.

You also know that plenty of our people have embraced many false Messiah's throughout history, and that did not disqualify them. If it did, the entire Chabad movement would be screwed.

If the Messiah that I happen to embrace turns out to be false as you believe, no harm no foul if turn about's fair play.

Blogger SteelPalm July 26, 2017 3:35 PM  

Yeah, I can only agree with Vox here. This guy simply doesn't understand the first thing about the US or its form of government.

That being said, what percentage of genuine Americans do nowadays?

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2017 3:36 PM  

"Boycotting Israel stems from deep-seated anti-Semitism"

Without exception, that's the only possible reason. Just that simple, I guess.

This looks like another one of those "Well, if you insist" situations. Some of us might have wanted the freedom to support any boycott we wanted without hating anyone, but if they insist....

Blogger Dave Narby July 26, 2017 3:37 PM  

So, this list is three years old, but a starting point: US Legislators that hold dual US/Israeli citizenship.

http://american3rdposition.com/?p=12767

I find this remarkable, as it almost certainly eventually requires violating one or the other's laws (and the legislator's oath of office). You cannot serve two masters.

Cross referencing an updated list with the anti-boycott bill cosponsors might prove interesting.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1697/cosponsors?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22Israel+Anti-Boycott+act%22%5D%7D&r=2

https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/720/cosponsors

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Blogger Valtandor Nought July 26, 2017 3:40 PM  

@tublecane at 2:49 PM,

As near as I can tell, the learned rabbi's assertion is that the same First Amendment that protects those who advocate a boycott of Israel also prevents the US Government from taking effective measures against terrorism.

Hence his repeated assertion that Americans "would rather have terrorism than an inability to boycott an allied country".

It would seem that the obvious solution, in his mind, is for the American people to repeal the 1st, which presumably means saying, "We have no right to freedom of religion, speech, or the press, and we furthermore may not, except as permitted, assemble or petition the government for redress of grievances.We are disclaiming these fictitious 'rights' on order that our society may more effectively and monolithic ally stand with Israel and with Jews around the world, and by the way we will also be more able to effectively combat domestic terrorism."

I'm not American myself, but I can see how such a statement is absolutely contrary to the spirit of America.

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 3:40 PM  

The Law of Return dates to 1950. Had they been alive today, they would be just as disqualified as you will hopefully continue to be (until you...umm...disavow). Nothing you could say about Chabad would surprise me, but your eidus is not acceptable so I give it no credence.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( more Natural Born Kekistani than if my mother was a native of Moorhead MN and my father came from Cockram Mill VA ... so to speak ) July 26, 2017 3:41 PM  

42. johnc July 26, 2017 3:06 PM
is always the go-to lie with these people.



T,FTFY


54. Shimshon July 26, 2017 3:28 PM
Rabbi B, you're a Christian, so I don't know where "back" is. Suggest you stay in America and fight AIPAC's overreach.



you notice how religious discrimination is JUST FINE when the fucking Jews do it?

and Shimson is a longtime member here, you'd think he'd know better.



58. Rabbi B July 26, 2017 3:35 PM
If the Messiah that I happen to embrace turns out to be false as you believe, no harm no foul if turn about's fair play.



you know better than that, Rabbi B.

Shimson is simply applying to Christians the same principle that he applies to Palestinians.

it's A-OK when the Jew does it.

Blogger Desdichado July 26, 2017 3:42 PM  

tz wrote:There were Jews here at the time of the American Revolution and I don't know how many if any were Loyalists.
Yeah, there were, but there were about three of them in America at the time of the Revolution. And they actually DID assimilate back then—they gave up their Jewish identity, became Christians, married Americans, and now its only when people get curious and do their genealogy that they find out that some guy eight generations ago in the 1700s had a Jewish last name in their family tree.

Anonymous Random American July 26, 2017 3:43 PM  

Isaac Hebestein? That HAS to be a parody account....right?

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2017 3:45 PM  

This talking point must be important, because he repeats it. But I can't make out what on earth it's supposed to mean.

It's not supposed to mean anything; it's supposed to shame you into backing down because you don't want to be called a terrorism-supporter. But if you pinned him down and made him explain it, he'd probably say that boycotting Israel will lead to more terrorism because Israel is such a critical ally in fighting it.

You may laugh now.

Blogger James Dixon July 26, 2017 3:46 PM  

> Just don't buy our stuff if you don't like us, no need4 boycott

Uhm, not buying your things is a boycott. What you want to outlaw is talking about the boycott.

> I can't fathom how this law, under any Court, would be upheld.

How were sobriety checkpoints upheld? How is a secret court for wiretaps that no one can even discuss upheld? How was Obamacare upheld?

The Constitution hasn't mattered since at least Wickard.

Blogger Matt July 26, 2017 3:46 PM  

Jews are the dumbest smart people alive.

Anonymous Anonymous July 26, 2017 3:48 PM  

The uncrossable gulf of incomprehension between "Live free or die!" and "Is it good for the Jews?"

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 3:48 PM  

@65 Bob, I'm perfectly okay with Americans returning to a more, ahem, robust, discrimination regimen. You should know better than to imply I think it's fine for me but not for thee. Do I need to disavow something? Where do I sign up?

Blogger rycamor July 26, 2017 3:48 PM  

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein
I mean, since Israel is America's only ally in the ME, why would anyone want to boycott them in the first place?


Why, exactly, do we need an ally in the Middle East?

Blogger SirGroggy July 26, 2017 3:52 PM  

What's BDS?

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 3:52 PM  

I too thought it was originally troll because Hebestein‏...seriously?! But the verbiage does indeed reflect the mental retardation of HUC (the Reform Movement's theological seminary).

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 3:53 PM  

you know better than that, Rabbi B.

I do. But the stated reason for refusing me aliyah is that I embrace Y'shua as the promised Messiah. Never mind that I am as frum in my Torah-observance, not to mention the traditions of our forefathers than 90% of Jews on the planet.

Shimshon protests too much. I do not consider myself a Christian, but an observant Jew born of a Jewish mother, who happens to embrace the Messiah, Who happens remains a stumbling stone for many today.

Shimshon's (and Israel's) position is hypocrisy of the highest order. LGBT Jews are welcomed with open arms, even though the Torah says they should be vomited from the land ... not to mention a whole host of Torah-breaking Jews...

I am confident that Hashem will have the last word on the matter...not Shimshon.

Blogger Antony July 26, 2017 3:57 PM  

One point that is never mentioned by the supposedly anti nuclear left is that Israel illegally has nuclear weapons.

Anonymous Grayman July 26, 2017 3:59 PM  

As I have said before, these idots, from the mneo-marxists to the zionist diaspora are going to push the average joe, the right so far that everyone will smiling and joking as the Jews, Marxists and anyone associated with gets fed into the wood chippers. Just like the RINOs these idiots seem to collectively thirst for death.

Every time you start to wonder if maybe, just maybe you have drifted a little outside your own comfort zone, you start to feel a little extreme, one of these idiots pipes up and you realize, no, further to the right we go! Now where did I put my Neo-Crusade membership form?

Blogger Desdichado July 26, 2017 4:00 PM  

A friend was telling me about a guy in his community; a Jew who converted to Mormonism at a relatively young age, and who went on a Mormon mission in his early 20s. His parents, obviously unhappy with this development, sued the church.

Although the person telling me this didn't seem to get it, I couldn't help but think, "of course they did. Because is there a more stereotypical Jewish response to something not going the way you want it?"

He that hath eyes let him see; he that hath ears let him hear. The "American" Jews are proving more and more clearly and more and more frequently how completely un-American they really are. At the rate they're going, it won't be long now before they're due for another one of their "oh, poor me" pogrom caused by their general complete and total inability to be good neighbors to the hosts that allow them to reside here.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 26, 2017 4:01 PM  

What lying sack that Hebe is.

Yeah, yeah, anyone who disagrees with me is an antisemite and a poo poo head.

Tiresome wanker.

Blogger Mocheirge July 26, 2017 4:02 PM  

rycamor wrote:Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein

I mean, since Israel is America's only ally in the ME, why would anyone want to boycott them in the first place?


Why, exactly, do we need an ally in the Middle East?


If we didn't have an ally over there, all the money we send that direction would land in some Arab's backyard, and they might use it to do something like attack our ships or steal state secrets from us.

And don't you dare suggest we not send money over there. That would make us anti-semitic!

P.S. We know it's not a parody account because the parody would be named Shmuley Hebestein.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2017 4:04 PM  

I think that guy must be a spoof account.

If it is, it's in the Godfrey Elfwick sense of spotlighting what others are already saying earnestly. He said nothing that we haven't heard before or that we didn't know was commonly believed by many Jews both secular and religious; the only mild surprise is that he was so blunt about it in public.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2017 4:08 PM  

Whoa, what happened to the Saudis?

Perhaps he sees Saudi Arabia as Israel's ally, which she sometimes shares with us.

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 4:08 PM  

"I am confident that Hashem will have the last word on the matter...not Shimshon."

You are correct. I'm just having fun at your expense. I disavow the last word. I think I got this disavowal thing down.

Only 3-4000 Jews come from America annually. I doubt very many "LGBT" Jews are included in that tally, welcome though they may be. You Messianic types cause enough problems here as it is, whatever your DNA. I have no doubt you'd run roughshod over us if you as a group had the opportunity. I'm not that democratic.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer July 26, 2017 4:08 PM  

SteelPalm wrote:That being said, what percentage of genuine Americans do nowadays?

The key is that genuine Americans. I would dare say a very large percentage (80-90%) of genuine Americans understand the US form of government. The problem is we probably have upwards of 60% of the population that are not posterity.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 4:09 PM  

@64 Shimshon

Nothing you could say about Chabad would surprise me, but your eidus is not acceptable so I give it no credence.

The maybe we should correspond privately and we could get to know each other. I suspect we have a lot more in common than you;re willing to admit. What would be the harm? And what exactly do you think I gain with false pretenses?

As far as the local Chabad, my relationship is excellent, because I do not feel compelled to proselytize and we focus on what we both love: the Torah. I wonder why the local Chabad rabbi laments that I can't make aliyah at this time, and you rejoice in their refusal.

Two Jews, three opinions, I suppose.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 26, 2017 4:10 PM  

Wait, where's the appeal to Judeo-Christ? Didn't Hebestein get the memo?

Blogger Ingot9455 July 26, 2017 4:10 PM  

@77 Illegally? Well, someone should dial up Interpol and have them arrested!

Blogger Ingot9455 July 26, 2017 4:14 PM  

@74 BDS = Boycott-Divest-Sanctions, one of the leftist groups trying to organize boycotts, force divestment of assets, and impose UN sanctions against all Israeli products/holdings/doings. It's paid for by the usual leftists though it purports to be Palestinian-led.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 4:15 PM  

You Messianic types cause enough problems here as it is, whatever your DNA.

I couldn't agree more. I do think you and I would get along, though, and I understand and appreciate your skepticism.

Blogger Andkon July 26, 2017 4:17 PM  

I think you've been had Vox. If you google Whose Side Are You On? you'll find an article by Micah D. Greenstein whose pic is the same as this Isaac Hebestein.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 26, 2017 4:18 PM  

@25 I like 'AntiChrist-ian', with the pronunciation making it clear that you're calling them the AntiChrist. Get a good Omen vibe going.

Blogger Student in Blue July 26, 2017 4:19 PM  

If Israel is our only ally in the Middle East, then what was the point of overthrowing Hussein in Iraq?

Hmmmm...

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 4:20 PM  

@86 Rabbi B, a correspondence to what purpose? I'm not interested in debate, or even the scuttlebutt on Chabad. I know of many Jews here who seem to have an unusual and downright unhealthy interest in reaching out to leaders of various Christian organizations (and other religions too).

I knew a Messianic couple (gentile husband, Jewish wife). They, Baruch Hashem, "left the derech." They were just as observant as you, if not more so. He converted according to halacha and he told me many hair-raising stories about his experience.

Interestingly, and unsurprisingly, he had an easier time leaving than his Jewish (by DNA) wife and daughters (who finally disavowed it all too). If you want to discuss that kind of choice, I'll consider it, but I don't think that's what you have in mind.

Anonymous Nibiru July 26, 2017 4:24 PM  

@We don`t. If we: 1.Get out of the Levant, and 2.Ban foreign oil (except maybe Canadian). From the Eagle Ford to the Bakken, there`s no shortage under our feet. However, if they leave quietly we may still be Israels` friend. But if we have to kick them out....

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 26, 2017 4:32 PM  

Rabbi B wrote:
I have to go back.

I don't think they'll let you, will they? I recall the late Larry Auster wanted to go at one point but they wouldn't allow it as he'd converted to Christianity. Unlike Jonah Goldberg, Auster had two Jewish parents.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 4:34 PM  

@94 Shimshon

Rabbi B, a correspondence to what purpose? I'm not interested in debate, ....

*chuckles* ... neither am I. I just know from your comments here, as one example, you are familiar with R' SR Hirsch, whose teachings have impacted me profoundly. I know you love the Torah and Hashem. So do I. To one as solid in your convictions as yourself, I am sure I do not pose a threat, if that's your concern.

I'm not after your soul. It's just refreshing to bump into someone with similar values and interests. I really don't care one way or another. It was just an idea, and I thought I'd throw it out there.



Anonymous Koanic July 26, 2017 4:37 PM  

I was going to make some further suggestions, but after racking my brain I gave up. Giving advice to Jews on how to provoke a Holocaust is sort of like telling Michael Jordan how to make a layup. Let's just sit back and admire the intersection of globalism and suicide. It's a small world after all, and we've got tickets to the greatest Shoah on Earth.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 26, 2017 4:37 PM  

dh wrote:
I can't fathom how this law, under any Court, would be upheld. It seems transparently un-Constitutional even under the current tortured definitions of the limits of free discourse and association, it's wildly new restrictive grounds.

It would not be the first such law. The blackrobe councils will rule as they are told to rule - or no more special pizza flavors. Ghost-dance all you like, but that which is dead and gone is dead and gone forever. They killed it by 1965 at latest (what a fateful year it was).

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 26, 2017 4:39 PM  

Which would be better:
AIPAC's gag order is signed into law and killed by the USSC
or
AIPAC's gag order is signed into law and the GE deploys it against the BDS groups in the Ivies, Berkeley and other progtard strongholds, sending professors and students and Klantifa to Federal prison for years with huge fines?

Most likely it will die in the Congress. But which would be better for Americans?

Blogger Salt July 26, 2017 4:39 PM  

Isaac Hebestein clarified his position on non-Jewish right being not from God.

Not dismissing yours. Just saying maybe not God-given. Also not a Jewish supremacist
3:29 PM - 26 Jul 2017

"Just saying maybe not God-given"
Then again, maybe they are.
So which is it? You should know, being a chosen one and all.

Isaac Hebestein‏ @isaachebestein 5m5 minutes ago
They arent

Anonymous Anonymous July 26, 2017 4:42 PM  

"There were Jews here at the time of the American Revolution and I don't know how many if any were Loyalists."

Slave traders.

Points of destination for the slave trade, such as Barbados, Jamaica, Charleston and Savannah had small Sephardic Jewish populations, as did slave trading centers such as Newport Rhode Island and New York City.

Beginning in 1640, Barbados was the first English community to have an openly Jewish minority since Edward I's expulsion of the Jews in 1290 - refugee Marrano slave traders who fled Brazil after their failed attempt to betray Brazil into the hands of the Dutch. Cromwell allowed the Jews to openly return to England in part because he was hoping for the assistance of Jewish slave traders in the development of the Caribbean Empire he planned to seize from the Spanish, and these hopes were realized in Jamaica. The English Caribbean colonies, which as of 1650 had a White population equal to that of the English mainland colonies, soon dwindled as a new caste system developed: Black slaves, Jewish merchants, and a small number of rich English plantation owners. The theory that Blacks, as the descendants of Ham, are cursed, first made its appearance in this milieu.

The Jews followed the English to Charleston, which housed the largest community of Jews on the North American continent until the 1820s, and from there spread to Savannah after Oglethorpe's initial laws against slavery were overturned. The Charleston Mercury, the newspaper famous for providing the world's most spirited defense of the slave trade, was founded by Moroccan Sephardic Jews who traveled to join their Charleston brethren via Gibraltar.

Newport Rhode Island was the center of a triangular trade in slaves, smuggled molasses from the French West Indies, and rum manufactured in Rhode Island from that molasses. The friction during the Seven Years War between the British navy and Jewish owned smuggling ships involved in this triangular trade, which helped the Sephardic merchants of Bordeaux supply the French and Indian war parties killing the nearly defenseless inhabitants of the Pennsylvania frontier, was probably the most significant Jewish contribution to the crisis which led to the American revolution. Newport is home to the oldest continuously operating synagogue in America.

The most significant Jewish contribution during the revolution was their lobbying for the slave trade. Jefferson's condemnation of the slave trade was dropped from the Declaration of Independence due to the insistence of the delegates from South Carolina, Georgia and Rhode Island, in accordance with the instructions given to the delegates before the assembly of the second continental congress. Similarly, the delegations from those same three states convinced the constitutional convention to include a clause prohibiting congress from restricting the slave trade prior to January 1, 1808. This clause is the only clause of the constitution which cannot be altered via a constitutional amendment. This clause delayed the success of movement to ban the slave trade in all nations which participated. The British, on the verge of banning the slave trade in 1789, delayed action until 1808 lest the trade continue unabated in the hands of American smugglers, with the British merely losing profits to a rival without accomplishing any demographic or humanitarian goals.

Anonymous Anonymous July 26, 2017 4:43 PM  

During the lead up to the Civil War, Senators Judah P. Benjamin and David Yulee were among those who demanded a reopening of the slave trade, and the conquest of Cuba and other areas within the so-called Golden Circle, for the purpose of developing slave plantations. Rather than stay and participate in the hard work of rebuilding after the Civil War, they fled to Britain and were given sinecures by Benjamin D'Israeli. Franklin J. Moses Jr. of South Carolina took a different tack. A fire eater before the war, and a draft dodger during the war, he became the most shameless scalawag in the South as governor of South Carolina after the war. His corruption and race baiting were so extreme, he earned the contempt of all – unlike his successor, honest Yankee abolitionist Daniel Henry Chamberlain. Frank Moses’ shenanigans began the process of disillusionment with the Republican Party for Black proto-nationalist Martin Delany, who went on to support Confederate General Wade Hampton’s 1876 campaign. Franklin Moses fled the state and spent the rest of his life as a small time scam artist in the North.

Blogger Shimshon July 26, 2017 4:46 PM  

@97 Ah. Yes, I am familiar with Rav Hirsch. I even daven in a "yekke" minyan.

I spend most of my limited learning time on Gemara (Sanhedrin currently; not Daf Yomi) and Ramchal.

Perhaps. What do you suggest? Are you on Facebook and do you have a "Rabbi Ninja" profile photo?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 26, 2017 4:51 PM  

c0pperheaded wrote:Christians need a catchy term like "anti-semitic", but for us.
There's always Antichrist.

Blogger SirGroggy July 26, 2017 4:51 PM  

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Blogger Student in Blue July 26, 2017 4:52 PM  

Yes, I am familiar with Rav Hirsch. I even daven in a "yekke" minyan.

*rubs eyes*
That ain't English, son.

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 4:55 PM  

Perhaps. What do you suggest?

That's a good question. I am also currently studying Sanhedrin (Schottenstein edition), and supplement with various shiurim with my i-Talmud app. I am also studying hilchos Shabbos, in addition to regular studies on the parasha.

I'm game for anything of interest to you.

Are you on Facebook and do you have a "Rabbi Ninja" profile photo?

I am and I do...but I am not very active on my FB account. Email's probably best for me, for correspondence. Feel free to drop me a line if you are so inclined. rebbaruch10@gmail.com

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 26, 2017 4:59 PM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:
Wait, where's the appeal to Judeo-Christ? Didn't Hebestein get the memo?

Not to worry, Billy Ray Retard will no doubt soon come along to light a bong to Judeo-Christ. It should provide some entertainment of the slapstick clownfart variety.

Blogger SirGroggy July 26, 2017 5:00 PM  

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Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2017 5:03 PM  

Don't buy our stuff if you don't want to, but that's no reason to boycott us!

...facepalm...

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 5:08 PM  

110. SirGroggy

You cannot decry anti-Semitism loudly and constantly, and yet at the same be loudly supporting grave impositions on your host country and somehow expect there to be no backlash, no resentment amongst the people on whom you are imposing your unwarranted, unwelcome and undesired interference with foundational freedoms. The Jews always seem to be shocked and surprised that they are resented by their host countries - there is a lack of introspection here.

Well said. The anti-Semitism card has almost run its course and i should be embraced as a welcome first step. May the nations keep pushing back and encouraging Jews everywhere to go home.

May the nations make aliyah great again.

Anonymous BluePony July 26, 2017 5:23 PM  

"Best timeline"

Not really. The best timeline is one where Trump has a cooperative un-cucked Congress. The wall is half done there, and Coldstone has Two Scoop Tuesday".

Still, better than the Clinton win timelines. Those have all gone mysteriously silent after prolonged bursts of static.

Blogger Benjamin Kraft July 26, 2017 5:27 PM  

Straight from the Ankle-grabbing Serpentstone's mouth.

Anonymous fop July 26, 2017 5:27 PM  

"I do not consider myself a Christian, but an observant Jew..."

Still slitting lambs' throats at passover are you?

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 5:29 PM  

@115 fop

Still posting obtuse comments at VP are you?

Anonymous fop July 26, 2017 5:32 PM  

You observe nothing, fake jew.

Blogger DonReynolds July 26, 2017 5:35 PM  

Americans will insist on their First Amendment rights.
Yes, even people who want to boycott products from Israel have a right to speak it....and do it if they prefer.
Does not matter if an individual is for or against the policies and decisions of the State of Israel.
What matters very much is whether individuals or groups of Americans have the right to speak and act, consistent with the First Amendment.
Yes, the First Amendment is much more important than any foreign ally.

Anonymous fop July 26, 2017 5:42 PM  

FAKE JEWS!

Blogger Rabbi B July 26, 2017 5:43 PM  

(((FAKE)))

Blogger James Dixon July 26, 2017 5:44 PM  

> You observe nothing, fake jew.

He, and all the other readers, observe that you're a moron.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club July 26, 2017 5:45 PM  

Hebestein is either a fake or a liar: his Twitter TL is a SJW's wet dream of proggy retweets, and a quick search of HUC-JIR turned up no one of that name.

Anonymous TS July 26, 2017 5:47 PM  

Gee who else has been trying to get rid of the first amendment? Leftards,"progressives",atheists,commies,collectivists,totalitarians etc... sounds like the Jews are in bad company once again, go figure.

Blogger Twisted Root July 26, 2017 5:48 PM  

Time to push for criminal defamation laws. Baseless accusations of anti-Semitism, racism result, on conviction, in full asset forfeiture and deportation for paperwork citizens.

It is time to take their free speech away. Slippery slope be damned. We are already on it and it wouldn't be inclusive if we didn't bring them along for the ride.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 26, 2017 5:50 PM  

please do not take down Anonymous' succinct history lessons.

Blogger Michael Maier July 26, 2017 5:56 PM  

When I see A SINGLE (((American))) post or even acknowledge #RememberTheUSSLiberty.... maybe I'll give half a damn about them and theirs.

Anonymous Icicle July 26, 2017 6:05 PM  

Shalom.

Because Americans like to say Shalom.

Blogger DonReynolds July 26, 2017 6:10 PM  

((( bob kek mando ))) - ( more Natural Born Kekistani than if my mother was a native of Moorhead MN and my father came from Cockram Mill VA ... so to speak ) wrote:a - South Africa was just about the only American ally left south of the Sahara, and US Jews were primary movers in getting US participation in the international boycott of our ally



Leftist (Jewish) fanatical hatred for South Afrika was completely ideological.

In fact, there is a sizable Jewish minority in South Afrika.....AND South Afrika was the #2 arms supplier to Israel, behind only the USA.

And finally, speaking of boycotts...OPEC did a complete boycott of South Afrika to the extent that the country resorted to coal liquification for motor fuel. They are still an example of living without Arab oil.

I met a South Afrikan delegation back in 1980. They were in the US studying highway billboard advertising and I had a chance to talk to them about how they were coping with the oil embargo. (I was director of planning for the state energy authority at the time.) The subsequent embargo of South Afrika (by Leftists in the West) was so comprehensive and complete that it included parts for the Ford trucks that had been sold to South Afrika.

Now these same Leftists say that boycott is an ugly thing and should not be allowed....and anyone who advocates a boycott of Israel should be fined and jailed. It stinks to high heaven.

Anonymous Carbon blob July 26, 2017 6:16 PM  

"I mean, since Israel is America's only ally in the ME, why would anyone want to boycott them in the first place?"

And we all know how crucial it is to maintain this alliance, in order that we may stand against the malevolent forces in the Middle East who seek to annihilate our ally Israel.

Anonymous TS July 26, 2017 6:22 PM  

"And we all know how crucial it is to maintain this alliance, in order that we may stand against the malevolent forces in the Middle East who seek to annihilate our ally Israel."

Yeah with "allies" like that who needs malevolent forces.

Blogger Drew July 26, 2017 6:24 PM  

@72
@65 Bob, I'm perfectly okay with Americans returning to a more, ahem, robust, discrimination regimen. You should know better than to imply I think it's fine for me but not for thee. Do I need to disavow something? Where do I sign up?

You can disavow your abhorrent mistreatment of Messianic Jews. You have to basis to exclude them from the Law of Return or from integrating into mainstream Jewish life while giving Jews who openly break Shabbos, treat Chol HaMoed like an ordinary day, eat chametz on Pesach, and do 1,000 other things halachically equivalent to avodah zara a free pass under the tinok shenishba exemption.

I wish the Christian Right would stop being useful idiots who support Israel unconditionally. Tie American support for Israel to Israel's treatment of Messianic Jews. You need new fighter planes? How are those Messianic applications for aliyah going? They're delayed? Well, I guess our shipment of military equipment might be a bit smaller than we thought, and be delayed another six months.

Blogger WrenchTurner July 26, 2017 6:26 PM  

Hebestein man that sound like a good goy pulling your leg

Anonymous BBGKB July 26, 2017 6:49 PM  

"Would rather have terrorism over not being able to boycott an allied country"This talking point must be important, because he repeats it. But I can't make out what on earth it's supposed to mean

If you don't buy stuff from jews they will fake arabs taking down more NYC landmarks.

Rabbi B wrote: I have to go back. They would rather have the bacon eating gay rabbi from NYC

Only 3-4000 Jews come from America annually. I doubt very many "LGBT" Jews are included in that tally, welcome though they may be

US jews demand Israel accept their special needs black/brown non verbal adopted sons
https://www.jta.org/2017/07/25/news-opinion/united-states/north-american-jewry-urges-israel-to-provide-equal-adoption-rights-for-same-sex-couples

Blogger Critical G July 26, 2017 6:59 PM  

I'm convinced this @isaachebestein is a sock puppet account:
1) The only mention of this character anywhere on the internet is this blog post and its derivatives.
2) The account @isaachebestein started in July, i.e. a few weeks ago.
3) There is no mention of a Hebestein anywhere in the HUC-JIR (Hebrew Union College - Jewish Institute of Religion)
4) I'm a Jew and I've NEVER heard of the name Hebestein, nor can I find a single person online who bears that name.

Added to that, his tweets do not seem to be written by a native English speaker. It's almost as if they're generated by a bot.

Also, HUC-JIR is a big time Leftist outfit, so even if this person exists — which I doubt — he would be the Jewish equivalent of a professor of "Women's studies".

Blogger dc.sunsets July 26, 2017 7:09 PM  

It's disheartening to watch our US congressmen act like shaggy, smelly guys standing on a street corner holding signs that say, "Will legislate for the highest bidder," and AIPAC drives up in a stretch limo so the stinking congressmen start to wet themselves like poorly trained puppies.

Anonymous Poe Slaw July 26, 2017 7:20 PM  

@134

Are you saying that this is fake, even satire? Or that this fake satire cannot be distinguished from real? If only there was a name for such a situation.

Blogger exfarmkid July 26, 2017 7:36 PM  

The UN Human Rights Council is calling for boycotts against companies who trade in the "forbidden zones" of greater Israel, and now - if these congressional bills pass - companies/individuals will be punished if they honor these boycotts even though the UN is organizing punishment if they do not boycott?

Am I missing something?

Blogger Kristophr July 26, 2017 7:37 PM  

Rabbi B wrote:I have to go back.

Identify as American first and (((tribe))) second. Then you can stay. We are more than willing to allow immigration from European trust-based civilizations.

Blogger Xellos July 26, 2017 7:49 PM  

@134 @136
It's almost certainly a parody account. Hebe as a play on heeb and hebephilia.
The sort of thing where you make an account with the most obviously Jewish composite name (Shlomo Shekelstein being a classic) and use it to screech at everyone about being literally 6 trillion Hitlers for not being eager to give all their property and life for Israel.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2017 7:54 PM  

Hebenstein is probably Anglin, next Mr H will be demanding the blood of Vox's brood.

Don't be trolled

Anonymous Mathias July 26, 2017 8:21 PM  

@139,

This is probably true, but there is also a greater Truth at hand in all of this: "Who's actions was it who made this sort of parody believable?". This wouldn't have so much effect if it weren't expected to the point of stereotype.

Blogger Lovekraft July 26, 2017 8:43 PM  

What I would have liked to see from the ADL and other such groups is not a simplistic, tired expression of dismay and appeal to emotion.

Rather, considering their legal influence, I would expect them to declare a commitment to improving the investigation of any and all boycott calls with public awareness the prime objective.

Anonymous American First July 26, 2017 8:45 PM  

Is it too early to fire up the ovens?

Blogger Alexandros July 26, 2017 8:53 PM  

"Hello fellow 100% goy Americans! I used to be for the first ammendment, but then I realized that put me on the same side as evil anti-semites so now I think free speech should be punished with a million dollar fine and ten years in prison!"

Blogger Charles Martel July 26, 2017 9:03 PM  

@142 Lovekraft

"What I would have liked to see from the ADL and other such groups is not a simplistic, tired expression of dismay and appeal to emotion. Rather...I would expect them to declare a commitment to improving the investigation of any and all boycott calls with public awareness the prime objective."

I would expect them to double-down on the hated goyim. How dare we question anything (((they))) say or do! Remember, they absolutely hate us and the Messiah we worship. They rejected Christ and turned, instead, to the Prince of THIS world. Time to face facts: these people haven't changed in 2000 years. Their Talmud teaches that (((they))) are to rule the entire world and, to that end, subject all non-Jews to the harsh and heavy yoke of their rule. There is no "cooperating" with (((them))). There is no get-along appeasement with them. There is only this: submitting to them or defeating them. Let's defeat 'em.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 26, 2017 9:12 PM  

Also, HUC-JIR is a big time Leftist outfit, so even if this person exists — which I doubt — he would be the Jewish equivalent of a professor of "Women's studies".

Yes, he's surely far out on the fringes, having nothing in common with the 70%-Democrat-voting mainstream Jewish population.

Anonymous Raker Tooth July 26, 2017 9:16 PM  

FWIW, from this page:
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/middle-east/north-africa/israel
.
"Israel was the United States' 21st largest supplier of goods imports in 2013.

U.S. goods imports from Israel totaled $22.7 billion in 2013, a 2.5% increase ($546 million) from 2012, and up 78% from 2003. U.S. imports from Israel are up 1,195% from 1984 (Pre-FTA). U.S. imports from Israel accounted for 1.0% of overall U.S. imports in 2013.

The five largest import categories in 2013 were: Precious Stones (diamonds) ($9.0 billion), Pharmaceutical Products ($5.4 billion), Electrical Machinery ($1.4 billion), Machinery ($1.4 billion), and Optic and Medical Instruments ($1.3 billion).

U.S. imports of agricultural products from Israel totaled $327 million in 2013. Leading categories include: snack foods (including chocolate) ($54 million), and planting seeds ($35 million).

U.S. imports of private commercial services* (i.e., excluding military and government) were $5.2 billion in 2012 (latest data available), up 3.5% ($178 million) from 2011. Other private services (business, professional, and technical services), and travel categories led U.S. services imports from Israel

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 9:21 PM  

We don't like to be attacked, by the Japanese crying Tora! Tora! Tora! at Pearl Harbor, or Jews crying Torah! Torah! Torah! while they side with illegal aliens, communists, and LGBTQs.

@102 - I hope there is an exception to the anonymous comments. I knew some of it and it is not the whole story but a good part of it. They wish to desecrate confedrerate monuments today. Synagogues tomorrow.

Anonymous I wrote the Magna Carta July 26, 2017 9:28 PM  

@32 "I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are."
"I'm Not a Jew. But My Sons Are." Fixed.

Blogger tz July 26, 2017 9:35 PM  

When you bring a Pet home from the shelter that is supposed to be housebroken, but isnt and resists all attempts...
It has to go back.
I assume Jews do at least that if not worse if they get a puppy.

Anonymous Uncle John's Band July 26, 2017 9:39 PM  

There is some antisemitism in the Palestinians and their SJW fluffers pushing for BDS, but why the hell should this abrogate the First Amendment? There is no credible argument for this legislative abomination. The US is unique for the way its government prioritizes foreign national interests over its own people.

Anonymous Bob July 26, 2017 9:41 PM  

This is mostly already banking reg in the US already.

What treaty has the US signed with Israel? On the other hand would anti-Hungary boycotts be subject here? Poland? The Philippines? Yeah that's kinda why the slippery slope analogy exists.

Anonymous two sentries July 26, 2017 9:45 PM  

"Why, exactly, do we need an ally in the Middle East?"

This.

Anonymous Who Rescued Whom? July 26, 2017 9:46 PM  

Fake account - didn't the name give it away?

Blogger Ron July 26, 2017 9:48 PM  

This is an important column. I am convinced that the people who initiated this were either wildly delusional or malicious in intent (a 2nd holocaust is what they want). The rest who are supporting it are either the well meaning yet clueless, or varying degrees of the usual Leftist scum who are delusional about their power to effect "change".

The results of passage of this bill (God forbid) can only be described as catastrophic. Everything Vox fears regarding it's passage is obviously true.

While I don't much enjoy reading the title of the post, I regard it as absolutely necessary. Much the same as slapping a confused person across the face to get his attention to the fact that the building is on fire and we have to either put out the fire or get the hell out.

Blogger Lemur July 26, 2017 9:54 PM  

If you get in the way of whatever Jews want, you're an anti-Semite. The Palestinians are anti-Semitic because they oppose Jews taking their land. Opposing Jews is anti-Semitic.

Blogger toadbile July 26, 2017 10:02 PM  

I think @isaachebestein is a troll account.
no such Adjunct Assistant Professor is found at the HUC-JIR website or listed in the Academy for Jewish Religion site there is no Rabbinics program (Cantors becoming rabbis is the closest.)

This guy is a troll with a remarkably precise recitation of liberal catechism. Too perfect, really. also 185 tweets total starting 16 hours ago.

Anonymous Sertorius July 26, 2017 10:03 PM  

Anonymous @102

No doubt the Sephardic Jews were intimately involved in the slave trade, but you are being needlessly conspiratorial--South Carolina after all was in many ways more of a Caribbean society than it was an "American" one. (Historians sometimes refer to Carolina as a colony of Barbados, so many of the first English settlers came from there.) As a result, enthusiasm for the peculiar institution was early and continuous through around 1710, when the famous "Black Majority" became a reality, then continued well past the turn of the 19th Century. In other words, you'd be hard pressed to find an abolitionist within any group of whites--in fact, at one time, the largest slave owner in Carolina was a Quaker, John Elliot. (And of course the famous Henry Laurens, second generation Huguenot, was at one time the largest slave trader in Charleston.) As for Georgia, a similarly (white)man killing environment, it was the Lowland Scot "Malcontents" who were constantly chafing under what was an idealistic proprietary government. (For Ergmont, et al, Carolina was a constant reminder of what they did not want Georgia to become--although of course in the end they were ground down enough that they ceded the colony back to the Crown mid-century.

Blogger Lazarus July 26, 2017 10:13 PM  

toadbile wrote:I think @isaachebestein is a troll account.

What difference does it make? The point is still the same, unlike the consequences, which, of course, will never be.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 26, 2017 10:16 PM  

Meanwhile, as the circus clowns continue their antics under the funhouse flickering of the (((gaslight media))), the (((usual suspects))) double down even more. Never heard of (((ADL/$PLC))) opposing this kind of thing even once - and these are the very same folks Littlest Chickenhawk was urging the stupid goys to go and fight over in the Misunderestimated Mesopotamian Misadventure started by Curious Jorge and continued by Obongo the Limo-Chimp. Most of the ''goyim'' here are likely not familiar with the work of Daniel Goldhagen whose essential thesis is that the Holycost was the direct result of Christianity. It therefore follows (and Goldhagen is widely admired and promoted by the tribe) that in order for Never again! to be reality, Christianity (and the race where it first took root) must be exterminated from the face of the earth. You'll see even fewer of the (((tribe))) denouncing Goldhagen's thinly veiled call for genocide that you'll see of those willing to call out (((Soros))) for his wickedness. Synagogue of Satan. We were warned 2 thousand years back. Few heeded the warning so here we are...

Anonymous MarlonBrandoHatedJews July 26, 2017 10:17 PM  

But Jews are really funny! and super good-looking!

https://www.jta.org/2017/07/26/arts-entertainment/the-summer-that-judd-apatow-seth-rogen-and-jonah-hill-took-over-mainstream-comedy

Anonymous GritsForSupper July 26, 2017 10:27 PM  

158. Sertorius: Good history run down. Those are my some of my ancestors. Tidewater and South Carolina were primarily Saxon English, with Scots-Irish and Huguenots filling out much of the rest of the both areas for a while (Charleston still has a French speaking Huguenot church). Saxons were militaristic and cared not one bit about equality--that's an Anglo trait (found more in the North East). The Cavaliers were the upper class of this Anglo-Saxon culture.

I still remember my parents using the (even then) outdated terms of Tuckahoe and Cohee to differentiate between our English ancestors of coastal VA (Isle of Wight) and Carolina, vs. our Scots-Irish mountain ancestors of the Blue Ridge. Time and war wore down the differences, but even to this day, the Tidewater and Carolina have the old school English (and Scottish) families.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 10:36 PM  

@modsquad
"Who's not allowed to become an Israeli citizen due to their religion?"

To be fair, members of the Tribe who are active, practicing Christians are typically excluded from making aliyah. Atheists and others, of course, are not.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 10:40 PM  

@pyrrhus
"I worked with a lot of Jewish lawyers back in the day. While they supported Israel, they also strongly supported the 1st Amendment, to the point that they refused to support a ban on Nazis marching in Skokie..."

You know those particular "Nazis" were led by a man named Frank Cohen (though he changed his surname to "Collin," for some reason), right? And that he was very fond of promoting the "Holocaust" narrative, by saying things like "Hitler killed 6 million Jews! And I'm gonna kill 6 million more!"

Perhaps that had something to do with it...

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 10:46 PM  

@patrick Kelly
"Jews will become terrorists if I boycott?"

This is probably his intended meaning. Very similar to the "If you don't bring in millions more non-white immigrants, the ones who are already here will have no choice but to become terrorists" line of argumentation often promoted by the legacy media.

Blogger Charles Martel July 26, 2017 10:58 PM  

@152 Bob
"What treaty has the US signed with Israel? On the other hand would anti-Hungary boycotts be subject here? Poland? The Philippines?"

Neither Hungarians, Poles, nor Filipinos are parasites eating away at the very foundation of our nation.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 10:59 PM  

@Dave

"since Israel is America's only ally in the ME

Whoa, what happened to the Saudis? Don't we Americans call them allies?"

Saudis = 9/11
Israelis = USS Liberty

With "allies" like this, who needs enemies?

Blogger Charles Martel July 26, 2017 11:00 PM  

@152 Ron

"...a 2nd holocaust is what they want..."

What, the 1st one didn't provide enough shekels?

Blogger Charles Martel July 26, 2017 11:02 PM  

@155 Ron
"...a 2nd holocaust is what they want..."

etc

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 11:04 PM  

@tublecane
"That's it? Being treated like Americans treated their fellow-Englishmen? Then wait are you complaining about?"

Huh. It's almost as if he's proceeding from a position of implicit Jewish supremacism, or something. Perhaps if he were to check his Jewish privilege? That might help.

Blogger Dire Badger July 26, 2017 11:16 PM  

Did anyone else notice that Trump said he was reinstating the US Military Ban on Transgenders?

Blogger dfordoom July 26, 2017 11:20 PM  

@118. DonReynolds

Americans will insist on their First Amendment rights.

Americans won't get a say in it.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 11:24 PM  

@Rabbi B

"You also know that plenty of our people have embraced many false Messiah's throughout history, and that did not disqualify them. If it did, the entire Chabad movement would be screwed."

Heh. I'm no lawyer, but that sounds like a hell of an argument for your side. What are they gonna say? "No, that's different, those were false Messiahs. You believe in the real Messiah. Totally different." That's some high level pilpul there.

Anonymous Rocklea July 26, 2017 11:24 PM  

Which argument holds more weight;
Feminist:
Agree with me because vagina.
Muslim:
Not all Muslims are like that.
Jew:
Muh holocaust, anti-Semite, agree with me I'm Jewish.

One comes with potential reward, one is a true statement and one is not an argument.

Anonymous CoolHand July 26, 2017 11:27 PM  

dfordoom wrote:@118. DonReynolds

Americans will insist on their First Amendment rights.

Americans won't get a say in it.


We'll get a say, either with words or with bullets, don't matter much which way to a lot of us.

Be careful what you demand, you may not like the answer you get.

Anonymous Raker Tooth July 26, 2017 11:41 PM  

A user at Gab, TruthWillOutFilms, just said this:
"An antiSemite used to be someone who dislikes #Jews,
Now it's someone who Jews dislike."
Most succinct way of saying it I've heard yet.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 26, 2017 11:49 PM  

Cail Corishev

"It's not supposed to mean anything; it's supposed to shame you into backing down because you don't want to be called a terrorism-supporter. But if you pinned him down and made him explain it, he'd probably say that boycotting Israel will lead to more terrorism because Israel is such a critical ally in fighting it.

You may laugh now."

It's only comical until you realize how much of The Narrative depends on basic associative conditioning, achieved through constant repetition of similar statements by the legacy media, academia, etc. Yet many of these subnarratives (Syria, for example) are not even internally coherent, let alone empirically supported. They don't stand up to even the most casual scrutiny by any halfway-intelligent person.

Yet it works. Which makes it more sad than funny.

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 11:54 PM  

@153-That's not a slippery slope, because Jews are special. There's no such thing as an anti-Filipinite. Has PC even gotten around to forbidding Polish jokes yet?

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 11:55 PM  

@178-Sorry, that was supposed to be @152.

Blogger tublecane July 26, 2017 11:59 PM  

@176-Joe Sobran coined that saying, I think.

Anonymous Dirk Gently July 27, 2017 3:00 AM  

@76 Rabbi B

Understand that modern-day Isreal is really a reconstituted and expanded Judea. Once you come to grips with that, the hypocrisy and double-standards no longer seems out-of-character.

Blogger Harambe July 27, 2017 3:10 AM  

c0pperheaded wrote:Christians need a catchy term like "anti-semitic", but for us.

Sorry if I missed your sarcasm, but "anti-christian" and "anti-christ" come to mind.

Anonymous Die Fledermaus July 27, 2017 3:38 AM  

Rabbi B wrote:you know better than that, Rabbi B.

I do. But the stated reason for refusing me aliyah is that I embrace Y'shua as the promised Messiah. Never mind that I am as frum in my Torah-observance, not to mention the traditions of our forefathers than 90% of Jews on the planet.

Shimshon protests too much. I do not consider myself a Christian, but an observant Jew born of a Jewish mother, who happens to embrace the Messiah, Who happens remains a stumbling stone for many today.

Shimshon's (and Israel's) position is hypocrisy of the highest order. LGBT Jews are welcomed with open arms, even though the Torah says they should be vomited from the land ... not to mention a whole host of Torah-breaking Jews...

I am confident that Hashem will have the last word on the matter...not Shimshon.


Rabbi B

I will agree with you that the law of return is flawed - it's too strict on some counts and too loose on others, and the entire institutionalized Giur structure is one big hot mess. I don't have Hashem's phone number so I don't know his opinion in the matter, however, I will ask you two simple questions:

1. Do you accept that Israel is the national home of the Jewish Nation ?

2. Regardless of your position with the State, if you set foot in Israel, will the NATION accept you ? will the people embrace you in open arms as one of their brethren?

I don't know what your position is on #1, but I think that unless you're delusional, you know the answer to #2.

Even the strictest Haredi Jews see secular Jews as sinful but redeemable members of the nation. But not you. By their views You are Meshumad, and depending on your views of the Trinity you may have even earned Kareth. The Secular Israeli Jews will not have such complicated notion of you, but most of them will instinctively recognize the danger you embody to the integrity of the nation. You will not even find solace among our leftist SJW's who will, of course, see you as just another, somewhat weird, Machzir Betshuva.

A Jew who accepts Yeshua makes as much sense as a Christian who doesn't. X cannot be not X. Come here, and we'll tell you you have to go back.


Blogger S. Thermite July 27, 2017 3:52 AM  

Maybe I'll believe a Jew saying boycotts are un-American if I ever I believe a Jew saying that racial/tribal supremacy and genocide are always a crime against God's will. Torah what?!

Anonymous Die Fledermaus July 27, 2017 4:07 AM  

Oh, and to the matter of things, AIPAC and the Israeli government support for it are retarded. What will they do if it the imbecilic law actually goes through, and the supreme court strikes it down? BDS will have its biggest victory ever.

Instead they should have turned this boycott into the biggest marketing opportunity Israel ever had. They should be printing giant happy "Boycotted!" stickers to put on products. If they did it right, Israeli companies will actually start asking BDS to add them to the lists.

Anonymous Dirk Gently July 27, 2017 4:17 AM  

@115

fop... remember, the Hebrew religion of the Old Testament is *NOT* Judaism. Judaism is a perversion of the Hebrew religion, invented during the Babylonian captivity. This is why Jesus referred to '...the synagogue of Satan"

Blogger Shimshon July 27, 2017 4:18 AM  

@184 Die Fledermaus, those are some thoughtful comments. Rabbi B likes to make this about his DNA. Yes, genetics matter. But Am Yisrael has always welcomed converts, and as Vox points out regularly, Jews have a lot of foreign DNA in us today (although Vox, if you look further, Italian DNA is also Levantine in origin). He has chosen to leave us, while honored converts (I know more than a few) have made the difficult choice to join us. He has embraced a foreign god. They have renounced theirs, sometimes at great personal cost.

It's also amusing how he points to Chabad as justification. That ain't gonna work with me or many others. I had heard it said the other way. Chabad is edging ever closer to schism, where they could (lo aleinu and chas v'shalom) be cut off, as the early Christians (l'havdil) were. I don't even really know. I've heard a few tiny things going back years, but that's all. So far that hasn't happened B"H.

As someone who is in the Haredi world (but not really of it), and who's own view of the state (of Israel) has...insert ellipses for effect...evolved...over the years, I would say that throwing forth the accusation of hypocrisy (vis a vis the Law of Return), as Rabbi B has done, publicly in full view of learned (some) and erudite (some) gentiles as comprise the Ilk, against it and my fellow Israeli Jews is...wait for it...motzai shem ra.

I don't have the last word, but I know that this is not something Hashem likes.

Rabbi B, you are bitter because the law as constituted makes aliyah difficult, if not impossible, for you. I don't want you here, but I don't celebrate your self-made plight.

Anonymous Die Fledermaus July 27, 2017 5:26 AM  

Honestly, I see no need for the "l'havdil" - I see little difference between early Christians and the Sabbateans and Chabad.

Blogger Shimshon July 27, 2017 5:55 AM  

@189 I get your point. I was already hearing some pretty sketchy stuff over a decade ago. The rot is probably very deep today.

Blogger Scuzzaman July 27, 2017 6:24 AM  

"A Jew who accepts Yeshua makes as much sense as a Christian who doesn't."

This is not really the place, except to note that you're not doing anything to dispel the notion of jewish bigots being self-deluded frauds.

Quite the opposite.

Anonymous MIG July 27, 2017 6:38 AM  

To me it makes sense to separate different definitions of identity because bundling them together causes confusion. There are, at least, three definitions: 1) to what group I myself think I belong; 2) whether the group considers me its member; 3) whether non-group members think I belong to that group. Until recently, the first definition didn't matter at all. But now if I consider myself a woman while to women and men alike I look like a man, my own identification takes precedence. In an ideal case, all three definitions should coincide. But in the example above, Israeli Jews don't consider Christian as part of the group. But the rest of the world goes by the DNA and phenotype. This is, indeed, problematic in the times of persecution.

Anonymous Die Fledermaus July 27, 2017 6:59 AM  

Scuzzaman wrote:"A Jew who accepts Yeshua makes as much sense as a Christian who doesn't."

This is not really the place, except to note that you're not doing anything to dispel the notion of jewish bigots being self-deluded frauds.

Quite the opposite.


I'm Israeli, We don't care.

Blogger Desdichado July 27, 2017 8:19 AM  

Shimshon wrote:But Am Yisrael has always welcomed converts, and as Vox points out regularly, Jews have a lot of foreign DNA in us today (although Vox, if you look further, Italian DNA is also Levantine in origin).
That's starting to become absurd. Yes, if you accept the Out of Africa model, the the Levant is the filter through which every non-African person ever in the whole world came through. Saying that Italians (specifically northern Italians have Levantine DNA because the Paleolithic hunter-gatherer populations appear to have entered Europe from Anatolia and before that from the Levant isn't particularly helpful. It's only marginally more useful to make some link to the Neolithic farmers DNA spread, which also came from the Levant through Anatolia.

There isn't any other significant haplogroup markers tied to the Levant in Italy with the possible exception of some Phoenician settlement of Cantabria and Sicily.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 27, 2017 8:22 AM  

@148

"We don't like to be attacked, by the Japanese crying Tora! Tora! Tora! at Pearl Harbor, or Jews crying Torah! Torah! Torah! while they side with illegal aliens, communists, and LGBTQs."

When are people gonna learn that the proper spelling is GBLTWTFOMGBBQ

Blogger Rabbi B July 27, 2017 8:55 AM  

@190 Shimshon

Rabbi B, you are bitter because the law as constituted makes aliyah difficult, if not impossible, for you. I don't want you here, but I don't celebrate your self-made plight.

*chuckles* ...bitter? Hardly. At the very least I find it amusing that you and a whole host of others really believe that I am more of a threat to you and somehow the State of Israel than an atheist or a leftist SJW who hates both G-d and the Torah. The only thing you should be threatened by is the truth and, again, if I embrace a false Messiah, as you and others claim, and my beliefs as you understand them are meshugah, then I am no more a threat than the secular Jews and atheists who could care less about what Hashem and the Torah requires of them.

The State of Israel has every right to reject me and others on whatever grounds they want, but that does not preclude me from making my case as long as I am willing to persevere in doing so. I think both you and the State protest to much. What threat do I pose? Be specific. You don't want me here? Our paths would probably never cross. I am certain you would not be forced to associate with me. What are you afraid of?

I suspect that you are familiar with R'Gamliel who was active during the Second Temple period. His response to the movement that embraced Y'shua as the Messiah was as follows:

But a Pharisee named Gamaliel, a teacher of the law, who was honored by all the people, stood up in the Sanhedrin and ordered that the men be put outside for a little while. Then he addressed the Sanhedrin: “Men of Israel, consider carefully what you intend to do to these men.

Some time ago Theudas appeared, claiming to be somebody, and about four hundred men rallied to him. He was killed, all his followers were dispersed, and it all came to nothing. After him, Judas the Galilean appeared in the days of the census and led a band of people in revolt. He too was killed, and all his followers were scattered.

Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Blogger Rabbi B July 27, 2017 8:55 AM  

(cont'd)

I don't have the last word, but I know that this is not something Hashem likes.

I would like to know how you know this. I know how Hashem feels about those who reject G-d and the Torah. I know how Hashem feels about hypocrisy. I know how Hashem feels about the truth ad those who draw near with their lips, but whose hearts remain far from Him.

I would say that throwing forth the accusation of hypocrisy (vis a vis the Law of Return), as Rabbi B has done, publicly in full view of learned (some) and erudite (some) gentiles as comprise the Ilk, against it and my fellow Israeli Jews is...wait for it...motzai shem ra.

So, the truth now falls under the category of motzai shem ra? As you said, my statements were public and in full view of the learned and erudite, why not let them be the judge? You have yet to answer and refute my simple claims and instead accuse me of defaming yourself and others. You should know better. Asking you to support your claims and pointing out the hypocrisy, which is already evident to the learned and erudite in our midst, is anything but lashon hara. It's laughable.

I'll do some of the heavy lifting for you. The truth is you can't reconcile in your mind how a Jew, such as myself, can embrace a Messiah you reject and still remain every bit as frum as you are and probably more so. The truth is, you're afraid to go any deeper than the anti-missionary narrative you've heard your entire life. It's easier for you to pigeonhole me and classify me among the Messianics, or the Christians, or whatever other fringe group that you can easily dismiss (and in many cases justifiably so) as contrary to Torah and Torah-Judaism, than to do any real investigation and study yourself and come to informed conclusions.

You think you know what I believe, but you don't really know, and in my limited experience I have found that people are often threatened and afraid of what they do not know or what they cannot understand.

If you are as secure in your position as you claim and I am just one in another series of heretics and crackpots deserving of cherem, then why engage me at all? Take the advice of Gamliel. No harm no foul. Or, you could do what a talmid chacham would do and search the Torah and refute the claims yourself. After all, when the truth is on your side, what you have to fear and what do you have to lose? And if you happen to find yourself fighting against Hashem, I'm confident He'll let you know.

Blogger Dirk Manly July 27, 2017 8:57 AM  

@178
"@152-That's not a slippery slope, because Jews are special. There's no such thing as an anti-Filipinite. Has PC even gotten around to forbidding Polish jokes yet?"

Of course not. Polish jokes are a part of (((culture))).

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 27, 2017 9:35 AM  

@Raker Tooth
"A user at Gab, TruthWillOutFilms, just said this:
"An antiSemite used to be someone who dislikes #Jews,
Now it's someone who Jews dislike." "

That's a quote from (paleocon) Joe Sobran. Except he used "hate" rather than "dislike," I believe.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 27, 2017 9:45 AM  

@Dirk Manly

"Polish jokes are a part of (((culture)))."

One might even suspect that Polish jokes are, in fact, thinly-disguised "goyishe kop" jokes, given the demographics of Poland for centuries prior to WW2.

Blogger Shimshon July 27, 2017 9:54 AM  

Rabbi B, when you tell me I feel threatened and afraid of you...you sound like my wife.

You are bitter. Otherwise you wouldn't be accusing us of hypocrisy at all, but especially in public. You are frustrated that you way is impeded. And you lash out at the source (but not the True Source) of the impediment, rather just wait patiently and make your effort. I'd add, pray, but yours won't be efficacious.

You don't even want to face Die Fledermaus' question (2. Regardless of your position with the State, if you set foot in Israel, will the NATION accept you ? will the people embrace you in open arms as one of their brethren?). He gave all sorts of reasons why the entire nation living in the land don't want you here. Each group may have its own reasoning for that, but it is pretty incredible to see us unified in our opposition to you, is it not? A unified Jewish nation vs a lone heretic who can't resist attempts to engage in debate despite disavowals of the same? I KNOW who's side Hashem is on.

We're not afraid of you or your ideas. We just don't want to associate with you, at all. And for the record, we are leaving you alone, just over there.

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