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Sunday, July 30, 2017

Civic Nationalism fail


Dear White Civic Nationalists,

What do you think these New Americans  U.S. citizens are going to do to Mt Rushmore when they outnumber you? What do you think they will do to the U.S. Constitution? And what do you think they will do to your children and grandchildren?

They are not here to assimilate. They are not here to become Americans. They are here to conquer and dispossess you and your posterity.

Love,
The Alt-Right

(with apologies to Fash McQween)

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174 Comments:

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 30, 2017 11:09 AM  

Outnumber? They'll only be able to count to nine once they lose the fingers on their way back to guatemala.

Blogger Shimshon July 30, 2017 11:11 AM  

Dear Alt-Right,

They have to go back?

Sincerely,

Civic Nationalists

Blogger TheMaleRei July 30, 2017 11:11 AM  

Send them back.

Blogger Zimri July 30, 2017 11:12 AM  

At least aim those fingers at Lincoln, vatos.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 11:13 AM  

Sioux?

But, yeah. Either way.

Anonymous Tipsy July 30, 2017 11:16 AM  

OT: Kevin Williamson takes a very oblique, backhanded swipe at Chateau Heartiste in his NRO article: Death of a F****ing Salesman.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 30, 2017 11:21 AM  

Cannibalism is dream logic for conquest and hybridization with war brides. Minorities think that by eating our brains they'll acquire our genius, and in the short term they may be correct. It worked for cro magnon man in the short term, after all. But if you want neanderthal brains, you can't hate them at the same time or you'll breed out their genes.

Blogger Stilicho July 30, 2017 11:22 AM  

@5 at least the Sioux have a reason. These new, fake Americans have only envy.

@6 if it is aimed at Roissy, then Williamson is about to become an adjective a la scalzi.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 30, 2017 11:23 AM  

That said, I have yet to meet another hominid with a 40,000-year time preference.

Anonymous Cyclone Bob July 30, 2017 11:24 AM  

Sioux?

My question, as well. Hard to imagine a beaner expending the energy and gas to drive up there for a snapgram.

And, yeah, either way... ugly af.

I will also take this opportunity to answer those who say Trump is trying to get added to Rushmore: If he meets expectations, he'll get his own mountain.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 30, 2017 11:31 AM  

@8 Stilicho @10 Cyclone Bob

Either way, it demonstrates that they're a separate nation from Americans, and ultimately incompatible.

Anonymous bearspaw July 30, 2017 11:32 AM  

But they are assimilated. The women are Laker fans and fellow is a Black Hawk follower. Clearly American.

Anonymous Tipsy July 30, 2017 11:36 AM  

Stilicho wrote:
@6 if it is aimed at Roissy, then Williamson is about to become an adjective a la scalzi.


I'm sure it is. Here's Williamson:

There is a whole weird little ecosystem of websites (some of them very amusing) and pickup-artist manuals offering men tips on how to be more alpha, more dominant, more commanding, a literature that performs roughly the same function in the lives of these men that Cosmopolitan sex tips play in the lives of insecure women. ...

What’s notable about the advice offered to young men aspiring to be “alpha males” is ... “Fake it ’til you make it.”


Here's Mssr. Heartiste from a few days ago in his post about the "Alpha Male Switch":

Fake it till you make it means faking that internal confidence as well as the external behavior. This is not as hard as it sounds. Every time you feel self-doubt and talk yourself into inaction, yell “Stop!” out loud, and your brain will reboot. You then consciously reframe your thought processes to put the burden of approval seeking on those around you.

Blogger pyrrhus July 30, 2017 11:38 AM  

Twenty years ago, you would never have seen something like that in a National Park or historic site. The invaders have lost all fear of the natives....

Blogger pyrrhus July 30, 2017 11:41 AM  

@13 Neocons like the self-hating gay cuck Kevin Williamson are actually perfect examples of faking it until you make it....

Blogger Matamoros July 30, 2017 11:41 AM  

New (((Comedy Central))) Show Plans to “Satirize” Alt-Right and Alt-Media

https://www.dailystormer.com/new-comedy-central-show-plans-to-satirize-alt-right-and-alt-media/

Blogger Ransom Smith July 30, 2017 11:44 AM  

Aren't the black hills sacred to the Lakota?
Vox your people are slacking off. Those "wonderful americans" should be scalped.

Blogger Desdichado July 30, 2017 11:45 AM  

Fake it 'til you make it is bigger and older than Heartiste.

Anonymous TLM July 30, 2017 11:48 AM  

These Injuns must have made a wrong turn on their way to the Crazy Horse monument down the road (The indians half-assed attempt to duplicate Rushmore). And they look inbred as Hell. When I was in SD, the locals hated the indians, a bunch of useless cry baby welfare drunks.

Anonymous Bobby Farr July 30, 2017 11:51 AM  

Yeah, I don't think those are Latinos. When they go to national parks, they go in groups of several dozen and limit their activities to drinking beer, blaring ranchero music and littering. They certainly don't go to parks with cultural sites like Mt. Rushmore.

Blogger dienw July 30, 2017 11:52 AM  

The Sioux are a Canadian tribe that invaded U.S. territory and drove out the local tribes. They have to go back.

Anonymous Irish American July 30, 2017 11:59 AM  

You racist alt-retards will eat your words once you read Col. Kratman's long-awaited reply proving that non-whites are posterity according to Constitutional law.

I am sure Col. Kratman will post his devastating legal proof as soon as he fixes a few problems he's having with his computer (his grandson Jose is attempting to reboot Windows right now.)

Anonymous Eduardo the Magnificent July 30, 2017 12:01 PM  

I'm confused. Indian is wearing an Indians cap, but not the one with Chief Wahoo (whom the PC police are trying to get rid of) on it. His virtue signals are pointing in opposite directions. Not that he'll notice, but someone did.

Blogger dvdivx July 30, 2017 12:01 PM  

Ironically the best thing that happened to native Americans were that they were forced onto crappy rural land away from everyone else. Tribes that weren't deemed threats like the small tribes that greeted Lewis and Clark near Astoria Oregon have been breed out of existence through intermarriage with whites. Their language and culture is completely gone. Those tribes have no future as they longer exist. Tribes even nearby like the Yakima tribe that were forced into remote land still exist and still have their culture to pass down. Minorities in places like China are not so lucky. They get purposefully breed out of existence by han Chinese and their culture rewritten to suit the Chinese government.

Blogger Thucydides July 30, 2017 12:03 PM  

The proper response is to start dismantling *their* monuments and sites. The problem is deciding between bulldozing mosques or university campus buildings first?

Blogger Troy Lee Messer July 30, 2017 12:03 PM  

I'll give the Sioux a break. It should be their nation.

Blogger Lovekraft July 30, 2017 12:05 PM  

Maintain focus and resolve and the Obama dreamers will shift their attention and anger to those who promised them 'the good life.'

Anonymous SayItWithMe July 30, 2017 12:06 PM  

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children.

Blogger Lovekraft July 30, 2017 12:09 PM  

@ 6 Tipsy: didn't really see the heartiste ref. Fill me in.

And his face has Scalzification written all over it. Ankle grabber.

Blogger praetorian July 30, 2017 12:15 PM  

I'll give the Sioux a break. It should be their nation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 30, 2017 12:21 PM  

I couldn't make it through the NRO article. The moment Williamson wrote that Trump inherited his fortune, I stopped. And the text leading up to that claim was peppered with passive aggressive slights. The butthurt in that article is overwhelms the palate.

Blogger pnq8787 July 30, 2017 12:31 PM  

Why shouldn't they flip off Mt. Rushmore? Those are not their people, that is not their history.

Plus Abraham Lincoln sucks.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 30, 2017 12:37 PM  

If they are Lakota, the Shoshone that they invaded and drove off should come back and give Crazy Horse the finger.

Anonymous BBGKB July 30, 2017 12:38 PM  

When they outnumber us they will be too busy starving to waste energy trying to destroy Mount Rushmore. Since it is not a dam I don't think Mexican engineers are capable to seeing it destroyed without Asian/White help.

once you read Col. Kratman's long-awaited reply proving that non-whites are posterity according to Constitutional law.

I think Kratman is still looking to replace all the tables he pounded to sawdust the last time he made that argument.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 12:38 PM  

Why shouldn't they flip off Mt. Rushmore? Those are not their people, that is not their history.

You might have to go back.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2017 12:45 PM  

Tipsy wrote:Kevin Williamson takes a very oblique, backhanded swipe at Chateau Heartiste in his NRO article.

I'm sure that will make a huge difference to someone. There must be someone, somewhere, who give half a ***t what Willamson thinks. Oh, wait, there's not.
Horrible little soul, utterly consumed by envy of the rich and bitter hatred for his own people, slavishly spouting the (((party))) line. Humiliating himself for his tiny paycheck and selling out his nation for the faint promise of money.
If God wanted to punish me, He'd reincarnate me as Williamson.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 12:45 PM  

Magic dirt people.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore July 30, 2017 12:47 PM  

@33 BINGO! This is a pattern with the Left. Territorial conquest and displacement by non-white people is a "glorious" history. Spanish conquistadors bad while Aztecs are celebrated. There are many more examples but you get the gist.

Anonymous Tipsy July 30, 2017 12:49 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:@ 6 Tipsy: didn't really see the heartiste ref. Fill me in.

And his face has Scalzification written all over it. Ankle grabber.


Here's the Heartiste post that I think Williamson is obliquely referencing.

BTW, Williamson is misreading CH. Sure, there are tips for PUAs, but the heart of it is to provide understanding about the dynamics of Male/Female interactions, and to destroy the lies of Feminism and other leftist isms that have made men and women miserable for the last 40 years.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 12:51 PM  

I'll give the Sioux a break. It should be their nation.

Really? Sorry, but that's like saying this world really belongs to the dinosaurs. Or trilobites. Or blur-green algae.

Every organism (or group thereof) must systematically battle for survival.

That anyone EVER suggests for one moment that so-and-so predecessor is somehow the rightful owner of that from which they were dispossessed is testament to how profoundly fat, dumb & lazy they've become.

No wonder we're here in this ditch. Ours is a society of pussies with zero hope of fighting for survival because we're surrounded by those who denigrate the dominance & successful conquering of previous tenants.

We're here because our ancestors won the battles for land & resources. Our descendants will EXIST only if WE win our own battles for them.

Anonymous JI July 30, 2017 12:51 PM  

What ethnicity are those people in the photo? They look like they could be American Indians. If so, they're justified flipping off the heroes of the invaders. Of course, that does show ingratitude for all the free stuff the invaders have given them...

Blogger pnq8787 July 30, 2017 12:58 PM  

@35 Think carefully. Expecting the Sioux or non-whites to care about white American history is a civic nationalist sentiment. You may have noticed this is not a civic nationalist blog.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 30, 2017 12:59 PM  

There must be someone, somewhere, who give half a ***t what Willamson thinks. Oh, wait, there's not.

The only NeverTrumper I'm familiar with who's managed to maintain some relevance beyond the audience of other butthurt NeverTrumpers is Shapiro. I've got no use for the sellout, but his youthful energy and the fact that he does punch pretty hard at some leftists sometimes seems to give him some appeal. The rest of them.... I'm always surprised to hear they're still publishing.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 1:00 PM  

41. JI

they're justified flipping off the heroes of the invaders.

And justice would include their victory over our people?

Blogger Michael Maier July 30, 2017 1:06 PM  

Yeah, well ... were I a Demo specialist, I'd consider explodering Abe right off the mountain myself. Teddy was an imperialist jackarse too. But Abe for sure.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:07 PM  

Sioux, Navajo, Mayan, Aztec, African, I don't give a sh+!.

The only reason any of them are alive today is because our European (& Anglo-Saxon) ancestors didn't purse a pre-Christian war system of exterminating their vanquished enemies root & branch.

Only humans of a specific kind exhibit such deference to subpopulations of the less capable. In the rest of the animal kingdom the dominant subspecies either systematically exterminates any in its way or simply ignores the less capable until the dominant one simply crowds out the less.

They don't institute "welfare" to "help" or perpetuate the less capable (as pets, mostly.)

Envy & humiliation are THE furnace animating anti-white hate. Just as Marxism was born of "intellectuals'" envy of and humiliation by the wealthy but "uncultured, ignorant" owners of factories & other "means of production."

The can't-do's will ALWAYS hate the can-do's.

Coexistence is impossible.

Anonymous SnowKang July 30, 2017 1:07 PM  

All these people from other countries (ESPECIALLY Latin America) always try to "White-shame" about how "this is really the Native American land" and all that. NONE of those paper immigrants, immigrated to "The Native American Nation" because there never WAS ONE. All those tribes, tried to slaughter and take all they could from each other.

And by the way, what constitutes "Native" anyhow? The Inca descend from the FIRST wave, the Canadian "First Nations" from the final wave, as anthropologists and geneticists contend, so who took what from whom, and who was who from what point in time anyhow? The Solutreans? The Vikings?

The same arrogant so-called "Latinos" that imigrate here, legally or illegally, buy a home and expect the deed to be protected under English Common Law, codified by each state (save Louisiana)...and expect to not have their house raided under OUR constitution--not some notion of some Native American "Nation" that never was.

Sick of all the austerity historical shifts we've had to endure.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 1:11 PM  

As a descendant of my great x 12 grandparents Captain John Thomas Rolfe Jr and Matoaka Amonute Powhatan, the American Indian is not going to out-breed your low American sperm count, outnumber you, and take over.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:15 PM  

Coexistence is impossible so the long term answer remains assortive mating.

THIS is why we're drowning in mixed-race promotion.

Mankind is IMO in an early part of speciation. H.G. Wells got it wrong. The Morlocks, the machine builders, are intelligent, fair-skinned, beautiful and cultured. The Eloi are vacant-eyed, morbidly obese,incapable of rudimentary thought and violent.

Morhers, don't let your babies grow up to date Eloi.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:16 PM  

Mothers, darn touchpad.

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Anonymous MIG July 30, 2017 1:17 PM  

Is it possible to identify these people? If they are first-generation citizens, they should certainly have their citizenship revoked. They used to have more restrictive conditions about stripping naturalized citizens of their citizenship. It was something to do with "disloyal" interpreted very broadly. They have since removed this language and left something like being a member of a subversive group. But the conditions could be tightened again.

This is just disgusting! If you are citizens or residents, you have no place being in the US if this is your attitude. If you are visitors, you are very rude. Imagine tourists coming to Mexico and taking selfies like this in front of some national monument. What a disgrace!

Anonymous Jeff July 30, 2017 1:18 PM  

The first Americans were white.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/9110838/Stone-age-Europeans-were-the-first-to-set-foot-on-North-America.html

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 1:18 PM  

OT: On our morning walk, my wife and I passed a young couple. Once they were within earshot, I heard the young man say, "No, we are absolutely not going to go see Atomic THOT".

Feels good, man.

Anonymous Panzer Man July 30, 2017 1:18 PM  

@d.c. sunsets

I agree with you 100%. And everyone conveniently forgets that the Indians built their own empires, massacring or driving out other tribes without a qualm. There are at least several pre-Columbian archaeological sites with mass graves containing hundreds of mutilated skeletons, both male and female, from losing tribes whose captured members were tortured to death and/or massacred by the winners. So it wasn't like everyone stuck to their own turf til the mean old white man came. It was battle and slaughter everywhere from day 1.

It's the last stage of decadence to think that any territory is either gained or held without violence or the threat of violence to maintain it. The only thing stopping those guys over there -- WHOEVER they are -- from rolling in and taking your area is a good, stout defense.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:23 PM  

"American" certainly subsumes North, Central and South America, so no, I think you're incorrect.

This land will belong to those who successfully fight for it (and by definition, win.)

It's a war.
It's always a war.
It will always be a war.
Reality just IS. Only perception changes, and its deviation from reality only measures delusion, individual or collective.

This is surely Peak Delusion, a folei a plusiers.

Anonymous grayman July 30, 2017 1:25 PM  

OT. Bracken latest on trump.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5327&v=OabwqlzGPsk

Anonymous MIG July 30, 2017 1:26 PM  

Here is a fascinating read on inter-group conflict among primitive people. I think this was this guy's habilitation dissertation. All of these conflicts were total wars of attrition. It just goes to show that there is no "common humanity" in the natural world. My group is everything - your group is nothing. Christianity changed that.

http://rint.rechten.rug.nl/rth/dennen/dennen6.htm

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 1:32 PM  

Well, you can always send the American Indian back, or just finish them off. I'm going to bet that my European descendants who were some of the FIRST to settle in America, some of which married American Indians, were in America long before many of your descendants. So, you have to go back. I'll be fair, anyone who settled in America after the first revolutionary war, has to go back.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:34 PM  

@ Panzer Man, did your father need a personal rifle to battle for his and his family's lives?

Did his father? Or even his? (Military participation comes with the weapons, but soldiers don't muster out with their rifles.)

So why do so many Americans (unlike their pussy cousins in England) insist on owning military pattern semi-auto rifles?

BECAUSE many Americans recognize that in the end, it's the ability to deliver that kind of violence that keeps some of the forces of chaos (inside & outside the state) at bay.

The Germans & British long ago abdicated their role in this, choosing instead 100% reliance on (and trust in) the ballot box & so-called democracy.

The rise of such TOTALITARIAN democracy is a major, massive symptom of social trust gone haywire.

The last redoubt of our civilization is a "white" guy with an AR15, a G3, an FAL, or such.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 1:37 PM  

59. Elder Son

I'll be fair...

Fair, justified, moral and decent won't have anything to do with it.

It will be decided on the battlefield.

The moral justifications for it all will come later.

Anonymous grayman July 30, 2017 1:37 PM  

@DC

Mankind is IMO in an early part of speciation.

I agree completely. If we activly begin to direct our reproduction, with or without genetic tools like cripr, I think speciation could happen faster than many would guess. Perhaps 5 or 10 generations if we are aggressive about it.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 1:37 PM  

Elder Son, your comment highlights the challenges facing whites (i.e., who belongs) but I suspect that when resources become scarce you'll have no difficulty at all figuring out in what camp lies survival.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2017 1:43 PM  

"No, we are absolutely not going to go see Atomic THOT".

WTH is ATOMIC THOT?

Blogger pnq8787 July 30, 2017 1:46 PM  

It's humorous how many commenters on this blog who think they are ethno-nationalist still have civic-nationalist thought patterns.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 1:48 PM  

64. Snidely Whiplash

WTH is ATOMIC THOT?


A mash up of Atomic Blonde and “that ho over there”...THOT.

Blogger Duh-ave July 30, 2017 1:49 PM  

The Moors once ruled Iberia by Right of Conquest. Spain now rules Iberia because they re-conquered their land. The same rules apply for the Souix. They can have it if they can take it. If they can't they need to remember that there is only room for one nation in any country and mind their manners.

Blogger Warunicorn July 30, 2017 1:51 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:"No, we are absolutely not going to go see Atomic THOT".

WTH is ATOMIC THOT?


In reference to, "Atomic Blonde," maybe? (New movie with Charlize Theron where a chick with spaghetti arms does in guys 10 times her size. It's pretty much another "grrrrl power" masturbatory fantasy.)

THOT = That Ho Over There

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 1:54 PM  

@61 Sharrukin

It will be decided on the battlefield.

Maybe, but I doubt it. You certainly won't be partaking in any America battlefield redo. Maybe the meme's war will catch on and inflame your great-great-grandchildren to actually battlefield? The Alt-Right better get cracking on the pro-creation thing if it wants to survive, rather than being little pockets of paratroopers hunted down like rabid dogs.

No poke. Just reality.

Anonymous Sigismu July 30, 2017 2:07 PM  

Dear Civil Nationalists,

You're wrong.

Love,
The Alt-Right

Anonymous Sigismu July 30, 2017 2:08 PM  

*Civic

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 2:08 PM  

69. Elder Son

Maybe the meme's war will catch on

The violence is already starting and even those who don't want to fight will be given no choice. The invaders won't let them.

I also don't think that at this point it will be the Alt-Right that emerges as primary faction defending the west. I suspect it will be some form of violent National Socialism.
Unfortunate, but such is life.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 2:14 PM  

@63 Certainly, I do get it. But let's be assured of one thing, there is no purity of the genes that settle what, and who, an American is.

I can go as far back in my genealogy to King William de Anglo Tailefer of France. Erispoe of Brittany, King Nomenoe of Brittany. I see Sweden, a smidgen of German, Netherlands, all who ended up in the house of England, some of whose descendants became Sirs, and Ladies, and Mrs, whose direct descendants where some of the first settlers in America.

I get the white. But I can assure you, my great-grandmother, a Choctaw Indian, was as American as any of you.

Blogger BlowMe July 30, 2017 2:19 PM  

Look everyone! Here's a REAL AMERICAN!!

Love,

Brett Stephens

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/29/man-who-allegedly-raped-oregon-woman-had-previous-ice-detainer-13-deportations/

Blogger bw July 30, 2017 2:20 PM  

a Choctaw Indian, was as American as any of you

Fucking absurd.

Blogger Zaklog the Great July 30, 2017 2:22 PM  

Stupid ungrateful fucks should be beaten half to death then sent to Cuba to enjoy the wonders of their world-class health care.

Blogger Gromm July 30, 2017 2:22 PM  

Could you imagine standing next to them and saying "I think Trump will be up there someday".

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 2:23 PM  

73. Elder Son

my great-grandmother, a Choctaw Indian, was as American as any of you.

No she wasn't.

She was a part of the Choctaw nation and I doubt that they wanted anything to do with America.

Citizenship of America was granted to them with the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 2:32 PM  

Ah! To be "American", it has to be granted to you. Stoo-pid. I'll be sure to tell that to my ancestors who actually were the first, and second, settlers in America. None of whom who were "granted" citizenship.

OpenID tonsplace July 30, 2017 2:33 PM  

Photos like this are excellent tid bits in the war for the fence sitters hearts and minds

Blogger Avalanche July 30, 2017 2:35 PM  

@20 "Latinos. When they go to national parks, they go in groups of several dozen and limit their activities to drinking beer, blaring ranchero music and littering."

You left out desecrating Indian petroglyphs with spraycan graffitti, defecating in the grass, and pull up plants. But a good start, nonetheless...

Blogger Avalanche July 30, 2017 2:38 PM  

@25 "The problem is deciding between bulldozing mosques or university campus buildings first?"

We're white: we INVENTED bulldozers and the plants to build them! We have lots of them -- so, crush both imvader symbols at the same time! We EVEN probably invented delegating!

Anonymous grayman July 30, 2017 2:39 PM  

Fair...... one of the greatest of human delusions. Fair only exists when the group you belong to has become dominant through application of force and now has the perogative to dictate a rule set that allows "fair".
Was it "fair" that the 15 yr old in the UK was raped twice in a row by paki animals? Is it "fair" that the clintons murder anyone who is a threat to them but yet walk free? Is it "fair" that our towns and communities are economically strip mined so some CEO gets his annual bonus?

Fair is an illusion that only exists when "your" group is able and willing to dominate by force. The west still has the ability to dominate through force but has abdicated the will to do so. In the bubbles of peace we forget that humanity has spent most of our existence conducting war.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 2:39 PM  

She was a part of the Choctaw nation and I doubt that they wanted anything to do with America.

Only you could make that up, and other retards. She was a Choctaw Indian, so she could not possible be an American!

Your ancestors where monkeys, you couldn't possibly be an American!

My ancestors were Swiss, German, Netherlands, Irish, English, and American Indian! I couldn't possibly be an American!

Anonymous logprof July 30, 2017 2:40 PM  

Pray tell, Latrinos, who would be on *your* Mt. Rushmore?

Santa Ana? Porfirio Diaz?

Are there two more winners you want to memorialize?

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 2:41 PM  

79. Elder Son

Ah! To be "American", it has to be granted to you.

Yeah and I have some other shocking news for you as well. You can't be Chinese either regardless of how you identify or think of yourself. In fact even having some piece of paper doesn't guarantee it.

You aren't part of the tribe unless they accept that you are. Waving a piece of paper, learning the language, or dressing like them isn't going to change that.

The only thing you can do is argue that being "American" means so many things that it really has no meaning at all...which still doesn't do what you want.

Blogger dvdivx July 30, 2017 2:45 PM  

If they are Native Americans they should be flipping off Mexicans. Method dealing Mexican gangs are the biggest scourge for tribes to date. Far worse than alcohol. They are also I'll equipped mentally to fight them off. Their ancestors would have scalped them for the damage they are doing.

Blogger dvdivx July 30, 2017 2:46 PM  

Meth not method. Stupid spellcheck.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 2:50 PM  

You are far too concerned with everything about your line that is not American, Elder Son, to be American.

Step 1 would likely be to stop wearing your 10x's great prairie nigger grandma on your sleeve as a ham-fisted rhetorical device.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 2:54 PM  

Assuming, of course, you're not making her up.

Anonymous grayman July 30, 2017 2:55 PM  

Are you american? A simple litmus test. If you and you local group were magically place in virgin lands would you rebuild something relativly similiar to "america"?

Those "mexican anericans" certainly wouldnt, they'd rebuild a mexico. The "chinese americans" would rebuild an Asian civilization. Mrs Choctaw most certainly isn't rebuilding an america, probably something closer to mexico....

Drop a bunch of "african americans" into virgin lands and you get africa

Not American.

Do the same thing with a group from the altright group that showed up at berkley..... you rebuild an american empire

Blogger JACIII July 30, 2017 3:10 PM  

Yep. Last time I was through there I saw one fall down drunk on to the highway. His buddy kicked him while he lay there.

Blogger Elder Son July 30, 2017 3:30 PM  

And dern it! When my great-grandpa x12 Captain Rolfe married that Indian great-grandma x12 Powhatan in 1614, he ruined my citizenship! That settles it! I am only a certain amount of American citizen by percentage! Well, unless great-grandma x12 Powhatan was granted citizenship. But wait! What about those other Indians married into my lineage? And what about that smidgen of German? You know how sneaky those Germans are.

Do you people ever listen to yourselves? A 100 percent bona fide posterity x's 2, being lectured by mostly late comers, because Indian, and impurity, and genes, on what posterity is.

And oh no's! What did great-grandma x12 Powhatan Indian Pocahantas build?! And, and, and... what did Choctaw Indian great-grandma Nugent build?! You're not an American! And neither were they!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 30, 2017 3:32 PM  

22. Irish American
I'll have War and Peace translated into Tagalog before you get his reply.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 30, 2017 3:38 PM  

The Sioux should fall to their knees and thank the White Man for allowing some of the nits to become lice.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 3:39 PM  

93. Elder Son

The only one talking about genetic impurity is you. You seem to bring up your genetic lineage in every post.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 30, 2017 3:41 PM  

Mrs. Choctaw build um casino , take paleface boomer money.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 30, 2017 3:52 PM  

Still would rather be white than those two girls, odds on already molested by a relative or six and a future of addiction

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 3:53 PM  

Do you people ever listen to yourselves?

'I'm French, Swedish, Netherlander, German, English and Indian and descend from Royalty. Egro, I'm American' (Elder Son).

Anonymous Joe Blowe July 30, 2017 4:04 PM  

grayman wrote:Are you american? A simple litmus test.

Here is another. If one speaks American English and a libtard or a so-called minority would accuse them of having 'White privilege' then they are probably an American.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants July 30, 2017 4:05 PM  

Is he implying he didn't "fake it til he made it," right after leaving his "white trash" Texas homeland, to become a ConservoCuck for Nat'l Review?
Liar, liar.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 30, 2017 4:11 PM  

Elder Son wrote:Do you people ever listen to yourselves? A 100 percent bona fide posterity x's 2, being lectured by mostly late comers, because Indian, and impurity, and genes, on what posterity is.

Do you ever listen to yourself? You're the one arguing racial purity. You're the one asking "what about my distant relative?" No one else brought that into the conversation, you did.

As the saying goes, "If you have to ask..."

You have to go back.

Anonymous BBGKB July 30, 2017 4:21 PM  

The last redoubt of our civilization is a "white" guy with an AR15, a G3, an FAL, or such.

Given the link to Bracken saying the power grid goes down in all scenarios, wouldn't an AK be better for long term use?

You're the one asking "what about my distant relative?"

Sorry we only stockpiled extra food for the relatives that didn't mudshark.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 30, 2017 4:33 PM  

I would give Teddy and Lincoln the finger too.

Anonymous John Rolfe's Progeny July 30, 2017 4:34 PM  

Elder Son, looks like we're related. I'm 14x from John Rolfe.

-- An occasional poster

Blogger Sheila4g July 30, 2017 4:38 PM  

@3 Snidely Whiplash: Williamson is only ". . . utterly consumed by envy of the rich and bitter hatred" for HALF his own people. For some reason there seems to be a widespread misconception he's a White man trashing rural White people and towns. Williamson is a Mulatto with the standard Mulatto's lament and resentments.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 30, 2017 4:39 PM  

I share 50% of my genes with a banana. I am an American, therefore.

Anonymous John Rolfe's Progeny July 30, 2017 4:45 PM  

Yes, but is it an American Banana? If it's from south of the border, you've got to go back.

Blogger JaimeInTexas July 30, 2017 4:46 PM  

G. Washington deserves a finger salute re. Shay's and Whiskey Rebellions.

T. Jefferson deserves a finger for the La. Purchase.

Anonymous Anonymous July 30, 2017 5:19 PM  

Is it too late to transform the Crazy Horse sculpture into Andrew Jackson?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 30, 2017 5:26 PM  

Crazy Horse was probably half white

Blogger tz July 30, 2017 5:31 PM  

http://freedomdaily.com/somali-muslims-take-small-tennessee-town-force-absolute-hell-terrified-christians/">Worse, Somali in TN

Blogger MLGunner July 30, 2017 5:37 PM  

78.Sharrukin
You know, all you fkin' white devils are invaders. You need to pack up your bags, and take your ugly Irish/Dutch/English/French/German asses back to Europe where you belong.
Those "brown people" you all are so concerned with are Lakota Sioux. "Rushmore" is a sacred mountain that was defaced by a bunch of money grubbers.
You think "Mexicans" are invaders? Yeah they are Spanish bitches that need to go back to Spain.

Anonymous grayman July 30, 2017 5:42 PM  

BBGKB

5.56 / 223 is / will be much easier to aquire when things get sporty than 7.62 will be. Most police departments have 223 now, it's virtually ubiquitous.
7.62 may be superior in some manners and an AK may be more rugged, but the gun "infrastructure" is geared towards 223 / 5.56.

If you are serious you have already a quoted spare bolts and parts kits for your AR.

If you are going 7.62 probably not a bad idea to have the supplies to reload.

Anonymous roughcoat July 30, 2017 5:43 PM  

BBGKB wrote:The last redoubt of our civilization is a "white" guy with an AR15, a G3, an FAL, or such.

Given the link to Bracken saying the power grid goes down in all scenarios, wouldn't an AK be better for long term use?


No, I'll take the AR. It's a far superior system, much more common in the US, and ammo is also much more common. The sole advantage the AK offers is it's easier to make the receiver with primitive tools. If the gun is already built, the AR beats the shit out of the AK in terms of maintenance and repairability.

'Course, if you're fighting a lot and survive for awhile you'll have a giant pile of arms from the people you killed. It's not crucial to start out with a perfect weapon that needs to last the rest of your life.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 5:46 PM  

113. MLGunner

78.Sharrukin
You know, all you fkin' white devils are invaders.

Yeah...and?

Blogger bobby July 30, 2017 5:54 PM  

Y'all are missing the point.

In the Lakota Sioux language, a raised middle finger means "yes, of course I surrender!"

It caused them no end of trouble during their final days.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams July 30, 2017 6:00 PM  

If you don't have memories of another country, if you didn't grow up hearing your folks talk constantly about another country, if you never visit relatives in another country, that goes a long way towards making you American.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 6:07 PM  

@BBGKB, I suggest the AK vs AR debate is more subjective than most AK fans admit.

Then again, I favor a non-standard chambering, too (no reason for "authority" to confiscate a custom trophy for which they have no ammo resupply) so I see things differently from most.

The reality is that long guns are generally more symbolic; unless you're explicitly part of the gang running things locally, being visibly armed (i.e., appearing with a rifle) will get one killed immediately. A black gangster in Chicago learned this about two weeks ago.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous July 30, 2017 6:10 PM  

Yeah those are Sioux, plain as day. You can tell by the Dad's catfish whiskers.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 30, 2017 6:15 PM  

Grayman nailed it.

We have a problem of definitions.

"American" is not a geographic term. Anglo-Saxon Protestants would have created the globespanning empire of prosperity wherever they settled.

If you think it was the Magic Dirt of North America that built the average standard of living envied by everyone everywhere, well, as Nate puts it, you're too short for this ride.

It was the specific people who built it, and it was their Magic DNA, not the dirt, that mattered.

Dilute the magic DNA enough and only a moron thinks the Cargo keeps arriving.

Are you a Cargo Cultist or not?

Blogger SmockMan July 30, 2017 6:20 PM  

It would be a shame if people would take over their little hashtag #MakeMineMilkShake https://www.themarysue.com/marvel-editor-harassed-for-selfie/

Blogger Avalanche July 30, 2017 6:38 PM  

@60 "The Germans & British long ago abdicated their role in this, choosing instead 100% reliance on (and trust in) the ballot box & so-called democracy."

Well, and their 'children' in American and Australia to come to their aid when they provoked the local bully into defending himself and HIS people!

Blogger MLGunner July 30, 2017 6:41 PM  

Sharrukin
No need to get all butt hurt about it,just cut yourself up into your various mongrel parts, and send them all back to Europe :P
dc.sunsets
The White Anglo-Saxon Protestant thing: where do you go when some of the worst people in the world have some of the best ideas? It's a conundrum. But then to even things out, your "magic DNA" also came up with "Fabian Society" socialists, Communism, the Feminist/SJW set, most of the New England non-Jewish liberals, and pretty much the very idea of "progressivism".
So there's that ...

Anonymous Gardner July 30, 2017 6:48 PM  

THOT = That Ho Over There

Why has everyone started using this nigger term all of a sudden?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 30, 2017 6:49 PM  

@Sharrukin

"The only one talking about genetic impurity is you. You seem to bring up your genetic lineage in every post."

Yeah, it's like some sort of inverse purity spiraling. Or projection? Kinda strange.

Blogger Avalanche July 30, 2017 6:54 PM  

@79 'I'll be sure to tell that to my ancestors who actually were the first, and second, settlers in America."

Can you not understand the difference between the LAND where all these various indian tribes -- which were not a nation! -- lived and were conquered and dispossessed of their land (too bad) by settlers, who were not Americans; and the United States of America, which was founded and built BY a nation,. FOR their posterity?! There was no "America" here, until the U.S. was created! There were no AMERICANS until the United States was created.

Your ancestor-settlers were settlers -- NOT Americans! They were citizens of the CROWN (or otherwise allowed in/to remain by the settlers from (mainly) England who came here to take over. There was no AMERICA until the United States was created. There were no AMERICANS until the United States was created.

Anonymous Strum July 30, 2017 6:56 PM  

These are indians, not mexicans.. but it pisses me off anyway. Did VD know these were indians when he wrote this ?

The only advantage AK to AR is/was cheapness.. a modern AR is as as rugged as the AK... more reliable, better accuracy .. and now you can make a AR for less than an AK... russian ak > $800 ... a low end AR you assembled yourself for under $400.

But really the key is ammo .. in US 223 is much more available than 7.62. Years ago i would have argued for the mini14 but the AR is simply so much better... but nothing bets 22lr :) for utility... you can squirrel away ammo..

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 7:03 PM  

124. MLGunner July 30, 2017 6:41 PM

Sharrukin
No need to get all butt hurt about it

Not hurt just don't see what point you are trying to make if you actually have one.

just cut yourself up into your various mongrel parts, and send them all back to Europe

Europeans and their descendants are the ones who have a long and bloody history of cutting people up.

I don't think the next Cowboys and Indians will end any better for the natives than the first one did.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 30, 2017 7:05 PM  

@MLGunner

"your "magic DNA" also came up with... Communism"

So (((Karl Marx))) and (((Moses Hess))) were "Anglo-Saxons?" Oy vey. Who knew?

Blogger Avalanche July 30, 2017 7:05 PM  

@93 "Do you people ever listen to yourselves? A 100 percent bona fide posterity x's 2, being lectured by mostly late comers, because Indian, and impurity, and genes, on what posterity is."

What the hell is your point? *IF* you have created over time a place for yourself in your local milieu, if your neighbors ACCEPT you as American -- and you act like one and support what America is based on -- what the hell ELSE do you want?! Your great-great-granny was not and would not BE American -- she belonged to a NATION (an extended family sharing genes to a substantial degree -- or however Steve Sailor defined it) that was NOT the American nation!

Do you think -- oops, do you FEEL -- that when the race war starts -- we (anyone?!) WON'T be able to tell at a glance who is and isn't "US"?! Do you think your great-great-granny would bean outsider - or would be seen AS an American, and insider, one of us?

That's not "purity" -- that's reality on the ground. And if you do not (if one does not) LOOK like one of us, then you'd best be careful because there won't BE purity or genetic tests; there will be "Halt! Who goes there?! Stand forth and be recognized!"

Will you (will your granny) be recognized or not?

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 7:07 PM  

126. Francis Parker Yockey

Yeah, it's like some sort of inverse purity spiraling.

It's part of the leftist self-loathing that has become so prevalent. If you can claim to have 'other' blood you get cheap virtue points.

Blogger Charles Martel July 30, 2017 7:18 PM  

These are the descendants of the geniuses who had developed the advanced civilization which Europeans discovered upon finding the New World.

Blogger DonReynolds July 30, 2017 7:23 PM  

Cyclone Bob wrote:Sioux?

My question, as well. Hard to imagine a beaner expending the energy and gas to drive up there for a snapgram.

And, yeah, either way... ugly af.

I will also take this opportunity to answer those who say Trump is trying to get added to Rushmore: If he meets expectations, he'll get his own mountain.


President McKinley got his own mountain, named for him by act of Congress. He was a popular wartime president and was assassinated while in office....the act that made Theodore Roosevelt the youngest president in American history.

But of course Obama and Congress could not stand by while the tallest mountain was named after William McKinley, so they changed it....after nearly a century (2015) to Denali, the name used by Alaska Eskimos.

Blogger Charles Martel July 30, 2017 7:28 PM  

They can't even "give the finger" properly. The joint separating the proximal phalanges from the metacarpels should be flexed for the index finger, the ring finger and the pinky. What wussies.

Blogger Were-Puppy July 30, 2017 7:48 PM  

@106 Sheila4g

Williamson is a Mulatto with the standard Mulatto's lament and resentments.
---

I always thought he was black. This makes sense.

Anonymous White North American July 30, 2017 7:54 PM  

Actually, those folks look Native American to me. Aren't you 1/2 Native American yourself, Theodore? Go shine my beaver pelt kiddo

Blogger Lazarus July 30, 2017 8:01 PM  

Avalanche wrote:There were no AMERICANS until the United States was created.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 30, 2017 8:05 PM  

130. Francis Parker Yockey
((( Engels ))), you forgot him. As American as apple pie.

136. Were-Puppy
That's the beauty part of being a Halfro, you can switch -hit when the need arises, ( like Obozo ).

Blogger MLGunner July 30, 2017 8:09 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:@MLGunner

"your "magic DNA" also came up with... Communism"

So (((Karl Marx))) and (((Moses Hess))) were "Anglo-Saxons?" Oy vey. Who knew?

Since both Karl Marx and Freidrich Engels were German (Saxony is a German state, just saying) they qualify as WASP, just as WASP as the King and Queen of England.

Blogger Joseph Bridges July 30, 2017 8:22 PM  

Solly, Cholly - Those in the pic, hoisting their Proof-Of-Low-I.Q.-Count, are the "descendants" that have devolved from what was ALREADY a relatively-quite-primitive "civilization" that was centuries-long-term resident in North America - but had never managed to advance more than a FRACTIONAL amount beyond the very beginnings of the Bronze Age, in either technical/technological achievements/developments, nor anything very much of the full range of societal organization, nor any useful level of sciences, neither material nor natural - until the arrival of actual "civilization", in the form of both Middle-European and Southern Hispanic explorers, traders, trappers, hunters...and, hard on their heels, the settlers, farmers, industry-builders, miners and makers and constructors.
White, yes - but also Brown, Yellow and all sorts of mixtures and ad-mixtures - and they overran, supplanted and subsumed the clearly(ultimately)-inferior, unable-to-cope-and-evolve antecedents of those hopeless shemps pictured...who, as said, are quite clearly DEVOLVED fringe-survivors from those earlier racially-primitives.

Their devolution is clearly-evident, as is evidenced by their utterly-racist disdain for the civilizational founders and organizers of the great Nation within which they survive, with vanishingly-little (if any) understanding of just how much they OWE their present-day very existence to the faces on that mountain. The attitudes they are clearly expressing expose them for the mental and moral feeble-witted shemps and sheep that they are - they don't even know just how much they don't know, and never will.

They MAY - through one circumstance or another - be (by the present-day laws of the Nation whose Founders and Builders they obviously disparage) "U.S. Citizens"...but, they ARE NOT - NOR WILL THEY EVER BE (unless they learn, and actually evolve, and respect this Nation and its beginnings) AMERICANS!!

It seems, in fact, altogether more likely that they are NOT, in truth, U.S. Citizens - but that they are, instead, Illegal Aliens/Immigrants...unlawful invaders and/or children of unlawful invaders themselves, undeserving of anything other than expulsion - especially given their obvious disdain for the origins of the Nation from which they are now receiving benefits far in excess of what they might properly deserve.

No matter how MANY they may become...no matter how they may VOTE, nor how they may manage, in future, to distort or damage or destroy the true origins of the Nation...they will NEVER.BE.AMERICANS! - not in any true sense nor meaning.

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 30, 2017 9:22 PM  

140. MLGunner
They were neither White nor Protestant, they were Jews.
Pardo really needs to train you JIDF shills better.

Blogger Salden July 30, 2017 9:43 PM  

>What the hell is wrong with you?

Tell us the name of the country the Redskins were in when Whitey came around Lazarus.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 30, 2017 9:57 PM  

@MLGunner
Karl Marx and Moses Hess were German? Wait, they had magic Saxon dirt, even way back then? That transformed Marx and Hess into honest-to-goodness Saxons? Remarkable. Clearly, a dog born in a stable is, in some meaningful sense, truly a horse. And a man descended from a long line of rabbis is a... "Saxon." Uh huh.

Just one further question, if I may. Were you aware that, after contributing so much to the founding of Communism, Moses Hess went on to become somewhat disillusioned with its sole focus on the class struggle, and began to think more about the importance of the struggle between races/ nations as the primary factor in history? As a matter of fact, Hess's book "Rome and Jerusalem" was one of Theodor Herzl'z primary inspirations when he founded "Saxonism," and began to advocate for a homeland for the Saxon people. An important point that many are unaware of.

Anonymous Jack July 30, 2017 10:05 PM  

History shows us that this will all work out ok. Once upon a time, Afghanistan was Buddhist, and the Buddhists built huge statues of Buddha in the Bamyan valley. Then, beautiful muslim diversity happened, and the number of Buddhists became smaller. Eventually there were no more Buddhists in Afghanistan. But the Bamyan Buddhas were still there, and the muslims continue to take wonderful care of them to this very day.

Oh, wait ...

Blogger Lazarus July 30, 2017 10:12 PM  

Francis Parker Yockey wrote:An important point that many are unaware of.

aha! A man of education. Well played, FPY.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 30, 2017 10:13 PM  

@Salden
Clearly, you're attempting to "culturally appropriate" the contributions of that great Indian leader, Amerigo Vespucci. Very problematic in the current year.

Blogger Lazarus July 30, 2017 10:24 PM  

Salden wrote:>What the hell is wrong with you?

Tell us the name of the country the Redskins were in when Whitey came around Lazarus.


North and South American continents were named long before the United States of America was formed.

2. The Name America
America is named after "Ha-Macheri" meaning literally the Sons of Machir who was the first born son of Menasseh.
Machir was the first-born son of Manasseh son of Joseph (Genesis 50:23, Numbers 26:29, Numbers 32:39-40, Numbers 36:1, Judges 5:40, 1-Chronicles 7:14, etc).
Machir was the forefather of the Gileadites (1-Chronicles 2:21).
The commonly accepted explanation is that the name "America" comes from that of the Explorer, Amerigo Vespucci (1451-1512) also called "America" and (after 1507) "America" is said to have been named in his honor.
At all events, the name Amerigo or "America" is similar to Medieval appellations ("Aimerico", etc.) for a Jewish Prince of southern France.

Anonymous Anonymous July 30, 2017 11:16 PM  

Those are natives

Blogger Buybuydandavis July 30, 2017 11:40 PM  

Dear Alt-Right,

German Americans outnumber English Americans, and the country is a more solid red where they predominate compared to where the British Americans dominate.

The Germans and the Scots gave the US the God Emperor and a last chance to stem the tide of immigrants who would provide permanent electoral majorities to the Left.

You're welcome.

Sincerely,
The Civic Nationalists

Blogger Buybuydandavis July 30, 2017 11:48 PM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:I couldn't make it through the NRO article. The moment Williamson wrote that Trump inherited his fortune, I stopped.


Kevin Williamson, in his article, Chaos in the Family, Chaos in the State: The White Working Class’s Dysfunction:
"The truth about these dysfunctional, downscale communities is that they deserve to die."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432876/donald-trump-white-working-class-dysfunction-real-opportunity-needed-not-trump

This quote should follow him til he dies, which can't be soon enough.

Anonymous Sharrukin July 30, 2017 11:51 PM  

150. Buybuydandavis

German Americans outnumber English Americans

No they don't.

In the 1980 United States Census, over 49 million (49,598,035) Americans claimed English ancestry, at the time around 26.34% of the total population and largest reported group which, even today, would make them the largest ethnic group in the United States.

and the country is a more solid red where they predominate

And the Reds are of course so much better than the Blues! Who doesn't love John McCain, Ryan, or some of the other vermin who consistently vote FOR MASS IMMIGRATION. Yay Red team!

Blogger Cail Corishev July 30, 2017 11:55 PM  

Dear Alt-Right,

I don't know why you continue to embarrass yourself over this; it's starting to reach train-wreck levels. But a tip: being obsessed with getting others to recognize the contributions of your ethnic group is a bad way to prove the power of civic nationalism. Hell, I'm mostly German myself, and you've almost convinced me I have to go back.

Blogger Buybuydandavis July 31, 2017 12:20 AM  

Sharrukin wrote:150. Buybuydandavis
German Americans outnumber English Americans
No they don't.
In the 1980 United States Census, over 49 million (49,598,035) Americans claimed English ancestry, ...

and the country is a more solid red where they predominate
And the Reds are of course so much better than the Blues! ... Yay Red team!


1980. That's only 37 years ago.

Here's more recent data:
https://factfinder.census.gov/faces/tableservices/jsf/pages/productview.xhtml?pid=ACS_11_5YR_B04003&prodType=table

German 47,723,069
English 25,810,228

And if you don't prefer the red team over the blue team, then you have different preferences than I do. I think different preferences than the Alt-Right too, though that is up to them. I think the "Right" in the Alt-Right is a hint in that regard.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 31, 2017 12:27 AM  

They look like they've been US citizens since 1924. You sure they're 'new'.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 31, 2017 12:28 AM  

German Americans outnumber English Americans, and the country is a more solid red where they predominate compared to where the British Americans dominate.

@150 Buybuydandavis
British Americans are more likely to declare themselves as being of "American" ancestry, and "American" ancestry counties are the deepest-red parts of Trump country. So actually, you're wrong.

To its credit, German-America did swing the last election to Trump... but they were friendly toward Obunghole before that.

Blogger LP9 July 31, 2017 12:45 AM  

The "16 pointers" (as in new young people embracing reality of the alt right) are inevitable and wonderfully so!

Thrilled!

Blogger Buybuydandavis July 31, 2017 1:01 AM  

VFM #7634 wrote:German Americans outnumber English Americans, and the country is a more solid red where they predominate compared to where the British Americans dominate.

@150 Buybuydandavis

British Americans are more likely to declare themselves as being of "American" ancestry, and "American" ancestry counties are the deepest-red parts of Trump country. So actually, you're wrong.

To its credit, German-America did swing the last election to Trump... but they were friendly toward Obunghole before that.


German 47,723,069
American 21,659,006
English 25,810,228

You'd have to add almost all those of American ethnicity to the English pile to get just barely more than the Germans. I'd guess that the majority of those Americans are mutts.

If you have actual numbers on voting by European ethnicity, I'd be interested in seeing them.

The most I saw was some Buzzfeed article, where the Germans supported Trump about +8 relative to the English.

I doubt that Trump voters were big Obama fans prior, though I can believe the Obama to Trump swaps in the midwest states that were key to victory were over represented by Germans, given the demographics in those areas.

Big picture. Even if you want to believe that English are the plurality, the US is a multi ethnic state, and has been for a *long* time, including during it's rise to world superpower status.

Hardly an argument for "multi ethnic states can't work". The US worked as a multiethnic state, and beat the rest of the world.

Civic Nationalism wins again!

Blogger DonReynolds July 31, 2017 1:02 AM  

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Blogger Buybuydandavis July 31, 2017 1:04 AM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:They look like they've been US citizens since 1924. You sure they're 'new'.

The claim is not that German Americans are new. Indeed, the opposite.

They are not new to the US. Just as the Irish aren't new. Yet this multi ethnic country became the world superpower, most prosperous, most free.

Civic nationalism worked.

Anonymous Mathias July 31, 2017 1:08 AM  

@161,

You mean "This specific, limited, version of White Nationalism worked." And it did until it was knocked over by everyone who wasn't.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 31, 2017 1:11 AM  

dvdivx wrote:They get purposefully breed out of existence by han Chinese and their culture rewritten to suit the Chinese government.

You mean like this?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 31, 2017 1:20 AM  

@24

Or this?

Its not just the chinas rewriting history.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 31, 2017 1:31 AM  

@ Elder Son

You seem a little excitable. How many bearded, "Syrian", immigrant boys have your wife and you adopted? Is all that banging from upstairs interfering with your your genealogy research?

Btw, I'm related to Genghis Khan - doesn't make me a chinaman.

Blogger Joseph Bridges July 31, 2017 1:37 AM  

"North and South American continents were named long before the United States of America was formed."

Yes?...Even if that were at all true - and there is substantial historical evidence to the contrary; the maps and still-available history texts from those "early times", for instance, DO NOT bear any of that out, including all that other bull-bumpf you posted - your point (assuming you actually had one and were attempting to express same) would be...what, 'zactly?

Anonymous Shut up rabbit July 31, 2017 1:41 AM  

jOHN MOSBY wrote:...they were Jews.

For the record, Engels wasn't. He was a Shabbos goy which is just as bad.

Blogger DonReynolds July 31, 2017 2:03 AM  

@150 Buybuydandavis
"German Americans outnumber English Americans, and the country is a more solid red where they predominate compared to where the British Americans dominate."

Both points are simply FALSE.

Germany did not even exist as a nation until Bismark (1870) pasted together 26 principalities and the Prussian state. Until then, there was no Germany, so to aggregate everyone in the US who had ancestors in some part of "Germany" is simply false....especially since they may actually be from the Austrian-Hungarian Empire (somewhere), or Switzerland, or the Polish frontier, or Holland.

But when it comes to the "English", we must disaggregate the respective parts of the United Kingdom....which has been united much longer than Germany even existed, in order to prove that those who claim to be "German" are more numerous in the USA than those who claim to be "English". (It is an optional part of the Census form and nobody gives a hoot.) Yes, the Irish, the Cornish, the Scots, the Welsh, and the English have been the United Kingdom since about 1700. Yes, the Republic of Ireland was created back a century ago. But very many of them arrived in the USA before there was any Republic of Ireland...including my own relatives. Have you given any thought to those Brits who came to the USA by way of Canada? or is that considered a separate ethnic group?

You can google search for any of the maps showing where the "German-Americans" live in the greatest numbers in the USA. Basically, you will find the greatest concentrations in the Great Lakes areas, from Minnesota to Pennsylvania. Yes, they did vote for Trump this time, but usually these states vote Liberal. The states that went for Trump MOST were not around the Great Lakes.....it was states like Alabama, Arkansas, Idaho, Kentucky, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North and South Dakota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, West Virginia, and Wyoming. These were the states where the Trump vote was seriously one-sided. None of them are included in the German-American heavy states.

Anonymous Bobby Farr July 31, 2017 5:10 AM  

@160 Great argument. Similarly, both Anglos and Saxons successfully blended together over centuries to form the English nation so there is no reason not to accept millions of South Asians and Chinese into the UK. Civic nationalism works.

Blogger S1AL July 31, 2017 4:29 PM  

Post should definitely be titled "Pre-Americans". Red Man learn Taqqiya good.

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl July 31, 2017 4:31 PM  

@167 DonReynolds

As a Great Lakes-er, you've hit it on the head in regards to German-Americans not being a solid bloc. Thanks for bringing this up.

They did, pre-1860s, tend to mix pretty well with the English culture/people in the early US. There was a lot of diffusion with them, which is where I think a lot of that Anglo-German culture thing comes up.

However, since they were often disparate in their arrival, they do show difference in heritage and voting.

Much of the "Blue" Germans in the Midwest were largely post-1860s Socialists who settled in Chicago and Milwaukee. After that, the "Blue" in those regions are more, shall we say, color-based and fake-voter based than anything else?

It's a categorical difference in a way. Without the fake-voting and identity politics bloc, the Great Lakes areas would be pretty solid red. And state capital areas (Columbus, Decatur, Madison, Lansing) are always going to be solid Blue as parasites vote for themselves.

And Indiana, Ohio, Michigan also have a lot of English heritage too...

You are correct though - saying "German-Americans" is a bit of a misnomer when looking at heritage, voting patterns, and American assimilation as "Germany" as a political entity didn't exist until after most of the Germans had already arrived. They were *German* but more or less Prussian, Westphalian, Hessian, Austrian, etc.

On that note - just found out through genetic testing that I've got a good chunk of English ancestry! Boom! I'm Legit Posterity!

Blogger DemonicProfessorEl July 31, 2017 4:34 PM  

I would add that the Scandinavian-Blue correlation might be higher in the American Midwest. All those Viking Alphas settled in...England, Russia, Normandy...

Can we also agree that "Civic Nationalists" are neither civic nor nationalist? Can we just call them Cuck Dirters or something?

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey July 31, 2017 8:39 PM  

@Lazarus

"Well played, FPY."

Thanks. Seemed like a pretty low-effort post on his part. What does he think this is, Breitbart? I try to keep to mostly dialectic here, but sometimes it gets away from me...

Anonymous 3/4 Indian you think?1/2 Indian at least. Definitely in the top 10 of the oppression Olympics August 01, 2017 3:19 AM  

Put these guys in Europe, and they're the popular spokespeople of the Alt-Right.

Blogger Buybuydandavis August 01, 2017 5:43 AM  

Mathias wrote:@161,

You mean "This specific, limited, version of White Nationalism worked." And it did until it was knocked over by everyone who wasn't.


A specific, limited, version of civic nationalism worked, and worked very well. From the perspective of ethno nationalism, white nationalism is civic nationalism.

It stopped working when many things stopped working.

It stopped working when the Left changed social policy to turn government dependents into a voting crop that could be harvested perpetually, and changed immigration policy to import as many government dependents and big government supporters as they could get away with.

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