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Wednesday, July 05, 2017

Everyone hates liberals

The Left and the Right finally agree on something:
‘‘Liberal’’ has long been a dirty word to the American political right. It may be shortened, in the parlance of the Limbaugh Belt, to ‘‘libs,’’ or expanded to the offensive portmanteau ‘‘libtards.’’ But its target is always clear. For the people who use these epithets, liberals are, basically, everyone who leans to the left: big-spending Democrats with their unisex bathrooms and elaborate coffee. This is still how polls classify people, placing them on a neat spectrum from ‘‘extremely conservative’’ to ‘‘extremely liberal.’’

Over the last few years, though — and especially 2016 — there has been a surge of the opposite phenomenon: Now the political left is expressing its hatred of liberals, too. For the committed leftist, the ‘‘liberal’’ is a weak-minded, market-friendly centrist, wonky and technocratic and condescending to the working class. The liberal is pious about diversity but ready to abandon any belief at the slightest drop in poll numbers — a person who is, as the folk singer Phil Ochs once said, ‘‘10 degrees to the left of center in good times, 10 degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.’’ The anonymous Twitter account ‘‘liberalism.txt’’ is a relentless stream of images and retweets that supposedly illustrate this liberal vacuousness: say, the chief executive of Patagonia’s being hailed as a leader of ‘‘corporate resistance to Trump,’’ or Chelsea Clinton’s accusing Steve Bannon of ‘‘fat shaming’’ Sean Spicer.

This shift in terminology can be confusing, both politically and generationally — as when baby boomers describe fervent supporters of Bernie Sanders as ‘‘very liberal,’’ unaware that young Sanders­istas might find this vomit-inducing. It can also create common ground. Last year, the young (and left-leaning) writer Emmett Rensin published a widely read piece on Vox deriding liberals for their ‘‘smug style’’; soon enough, one longtime adept of the right, National Review’s Ramesh Ponnuru, was expressing his partial approval, writing in Bloomberg View that what contemporary liberalism lacked most was humility. Here was a perspective common to both sides of the old spectrum: that liberals suffered from a serene, self-ratifying belief in their own reasonableness, and that it would spell their inevitable defeat.

When it comes to diagnosing liberalism, both left and right focus on this same set of debilitating traits: arrogance, hypocrisy, pusillanimity, the insulated superiority of what, in 1969, a New York mayoral candidate called the ‘‘limousine liberal.’’ In other words, the features they use to distinguish liberals aren’t policies so much as attitudes. The profane hosts of the popular podcast ‘‘Chapo Trap House,’’ prime originators of the left’s liberal-bashing, spend a good deal of airtime making fun of liberal cultural life, with one common target being fervor for the musical ‘‘Hamilton.’’ ‘‘Nothing has represented them more: a hagiographical musical where they can pretend to be intersectional and pretend to be multicultural,’’ said Felix Biederman, a co-host, on the second episode of the show. ‘‘They have no policy. They’re all cultural signifiers.’’
And now we know what to call moderates.... However, after much reflection, I think I may have finally landed upon a useful rhetorical term: spectator. Mull it over and try it out the next time you happen to have a moderate cluck-clucking and waving his finger at you.

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103 Comments:

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative Spectator July 05, 2017 11:06 AM  

But...but...but...muh COMMON GROUND! Muh COMMON GOOD!

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 05, 2017 11:08 AM  

Matt Stone: “I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals.”

Anonymous Crew July 05, 2017 11:09 AM  

Meanwhile, a black guy who understand that it's not a good idea to go back to Africa still buys into the notion that just because you were born in America you belong in America:

https://youtu.be/hluR7a79W14

Anonymous Pathetic Peripatetic July 05, 2017 11:10 AM  

Spectator = speck. To drive home their utter insignificance.

Blogger Robert Divinity July 05, 2017 11:12 AM  

"Spectator."

Accurate but not derisive enough. "Speck" about is pretty good.

Anonymous Roundtine July 05, 2017 11:13 AM  

You can rebrand dog poop, but it is still dog poop.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Penguins Fan July 05, 2017 11:13 AM  

Spectator?

How about JAFO?

"1983's 'Blue Thunder' Was Made For 2016 And You Have To Watch It"

http://uproxx.com/movies/blue-thunder-john-badham/

Anonymous Peaceable Citizen July 05, 2017 11:16 AM  

I like spectator. They are concerned spectators.

Can't you see how concerned they are?

Anonymous Roundtine July 05, 2017 11:17 AM  

Specks has potential for funny typos and mispronunciation. Does it have the same issue as "pin" and "pen" with Southerners?

Anonymous Ben Willis July 05, 2017 11:19 AM  

Liberals were the revolutionaries who fought the English Conservative Redcoats.

Liberals are the ones who want progress, and believe in a more open, advanced society, with more fairness and justice, who are open to new ideas.

Here are some synonyms for "liberal"

Bountiful, copious, full, generous, luxuriant, avant-garde, breakthrough, cutting-edge, excellent, exceptional, first, foremost, forward, precocious, broad, expansive, plentiful.

Those who seek to redefine such a powerful word are just the opposite.

Let's look up some antonyms to "liberal."

Regressive, intolerant, limited, narrow, greedy, lacking, mean, narrow-minded, ungenerous, wanting.

What's interesting, is when you shine some reality onto a word, by actually going to a real dictionary or thesaurus, and especially in looking at the history of a word and where it came from... one can get quite a different impression than what the propagandists want you to see

Personally, I prefer the light side, to the dark side, so you can always call me a proud Liberal.

Blogger DeploraBard July 05, 2017 11:22 AM  

Respectators

Anonymous AxeMan July 05, 2017 11:23 AM  

"And now we know what to call moderates...."

How about his term from pro wrestling? Mark.

"Mark a slang term that describes a fan who believes that the characters and events of some or all of professional wrestling are real. The term can also be applied to a fan who idolizes a particular wrestler, promotion, or style of wrestling to a point some might consider excessive"

Anonymous andon July 05, 2017 11:26 AM  

i've never heard of half the people mentioned in the article

folk singer Phil Ochs
writer Emmett Rensin
Felix Biederman

does that mean i'm out of touch or the writer is?

Anonymous Battlefrog July 05, 2017 11:35 AM  

Would bench-warmer add a little more bite to the spectator idea?

Blogger IrishFarmer July 05, 2017 11:37 AM  

Wow, so youre saying youre a morally superior person. Youre smarter than most people, and different too. Thats really cool, man.

Blogger Todd Pitner July 05, 2017 11:41 AM  

Skektator - Spectraitor - Spectard

Blogger DAMN SON July 05, 2017 11:41 AM  

i just call them centerscum or normies.

Blogger wreckage July 05, 2017 11:41 AM  

@10 The butthurt wordometer is clocking over 150!

Fire is on target!

Anonymous Panzer Man July 05, 2017 11:44 AM  

"Speck" and "spectraitor" both have a nice ring to them.

Blogger YIH July 05, 2017 11:45 AM  

Roundtine wrote:Specks has potential for funny typos and mispronunciation. Does it have the same issue as "pin" and "pen" with Southerners?


Unless he's plugging a book or doing a travelogue (or both) Rod Dreher fits that description.
Technically, he's a southerner, born in LA, is an LSU alum, but having read him over the years he fits into the south (and his extended family) as any other major urban/Yankee SWPL.

Anonymous andon July 05, 2017 11:51 AM  

@ #10 Ben Willis

the people who call themselves liberals today dont even believe in Free Speech. So what do they have to do with "believing in a more open, advanced society, and being open to new ideas"?

Anonymous Pathetic Peripatetic July 05, 2017 11:51 AM  

@17 Hm, I like "center scum." Got a meaner edge to it, will have to try that out.

Blogger DeploraBard July 05, 2017 11:55 AM  

Spectraitor nails it.

Anonymous roadrage July 05, 2017 11:56 AM  

Used to be another name for what we call "liberals" nowadays:

"Churlish."

Or "niggardly."

Anonymous Looking Glass July 05, 2017 12:03 PM  

I quite liked "Weathervane", but I think "Swinger" was the best to come out of that thread.

"Bench warmer"?

Anonymous David-093 July 05, 2017 12:04 PM  

Spectator is good for the moderates who fancy themselves as tough and down in the trenches when really they just snipe from behind a trust fund and a keyboard.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 12:06 PM  

Spectators is quite good.
Also occasionally Spectaters and Spectatoes.
Also "viewers like you."

Blogger Conor Foran July 05, 2017 12:07 PM  

"But I decline to show any respect for those who first of all clip the wings and cage the squirrel, rivet the chains and refuse the freedom, close all the doors of the cosmic prison on us with a clang of eternal iron, tell us that our emancipation is a dream and our dungeon a necessity; and then calmly turn round and tell us they have a freer thought and a more Liberal theology."

GK Chesterton, The Everlasting Man

Don't be fooled - 'Liberals' have been this way from the beginning.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 05, 2017 12:10 PM  

"Spectator" is as good as anything else we've come up with. It doesn't have the immediate impact of "cuckservative," since it isn't directly tied to "moderate." (Why is it so hard to come up with a useful portmanteau or alteration of that word?) But it should sting when they realize it's being applied to them, because they like to think their above-it-all pose means they're advising both sides from a superior position, not sitting on the sidelines where no one else even notices them.

Blogger Gimli July 05, 2017 12:10 PM  

@10 you are missing the point. just because the dictionary says something doesn't mean its accurate. (look at how it defines feminism.) what matters is how a word is defined in the common vernacular. liberal has stopped meaning anything positive and now is (in america at least) simply a synonym for progressive or authoritarian.

Anonymous fop July 05, 2017 12:12 PM  

I refer to moderates as "fags". Drives em nuts.

Anonymous Chase July 05, 2017 12:16 PM  

The idea that one should commit to one of the extremes is such a superficial, unwarranted and virtue signaling view of politics as to be profoundly comical.

Anonymous Chase July 05, 2017 12:20 PM  

"But it should sting when they realize it's being applied to them, because they like to think their above-it-all pose means they're advising both sides from a superior position, not sitting on the sidelines where no one else even notices them."

Here it is. A perfect example of the complete misunderstanding of what a "moderate" is and does. Thank you for the example. Moderates simply doesn't agree with the extremes, yet they hold an equally strong view of their position as the left or the right, making them in turn no more and no less "superior" or "posing" than the left or the right.

Thank you for the perfect example of the comically stupid explanation some provide for the "Moderate".

Blogger Elizabeth July 05, 2017 12:20 PM  

Great article. Someone once said that liberalism is an attitude, conservatism is a way of life. They love to indulge in extravagant virtue-signalling that requires no personal cost, no personal sacrifice.

Many people on this blog have pointed out that mainstream "conservatism" of today is simply the liberalism of 30 years ago. Look at the bruhaha over repealing Obamacare and replacing it with something else. Few ask the question that would have been asked in the pages of a magazine such as The National Review 30 years ago: Do people have a right to medical care to begin with? It's a given now that they do. The liberals won that argument. Gay marriage in another example.

One thing that I have noticed is that the more generous a person is with other people's money, the less generous he is with his own. The Conspicuously Compassionate, as I call them, love to display their generosity via words and attitudes, not actions.

A liberal friend of mine has a "Hamilton" calendar on her kitchen wall. Wow. That's a great call.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 05, 2017 12:24 PM  

Chase, if that's what you're going by today, I appreciate the confirmation that I'm right. But really, I already knew that, otherwise I wouldn't have written it.

Keep posing, bro.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 05, 2017 12:30 PM  

@17 I like centerscum.

Funny the NYT of all places would run an article.

Anonymous RobJ July 05, 2017 12:31 PM  

Redshirt Freshmen.

Anonymous Grayman July 05, 2017 12:35 PM  

By the way, what fuck does "intetsectional"? Is it similar to so.eone being drawn and quarteted?

Blogger James July 05, 2017 12:38 PM  

Ben Willis wrote:
“Liberals were the revolutionaries who fought the English Conservative Redcoats.”

Weren't those who fought the English just selfish reactionaries that wanted to keep more of their income for themselves instead of turning it over to the wise, benevolent, and liberal British government, and then proceeded to create a White, racist, patriarchy built on slavery that is responsible for everything wrong with the world today and creates an oppressive environment for genderless peoples of color?

“Liberals are the ones who want progress, and believe in a more open, advanced society, with more fairness and justice, who are open to new ideas. “

You know, lemmings that run off a cliff are really making progress. Really FAST progress. As least until they hit the bottom. And you aren’t really interested in fairness and justice, are you? You are interested in transferring what you view as “fairness and justice” to someone else. Someone that your racism of lowered expectation assumes can’t obtain it for themselves.

“Here are some synonyms for "liberal"

Bountiful, copious, full, generous, luxuriant, avant-garde, breakthrough, cutting-edge, excellent, exceptional, first, foremost, forward, precocious, broad, expansive, plentiful.”

Why did you leave out lenient, radical, permissive, tolerant, loose, indulgent, libertarian(!), non-traditional? Also, could you please post the site where you found "excellent" and "exceptional" as synonyms of liberal. I looked at over 6 synonym sites and never found those. You sure you weren't looking at a "liberal" site? You wouldn't be acting like those new "liberals" whose actions have changed it to mean liar, phony, non-thinking, programmed, dupes, useful idiots, busy-bodies, and a**holes, would you?

“Those who seek to redefine such a powerful word are just the opposite.”

I thought the left had a whole industry devoted to redefining words. You know, like "gay". Or, even creating words like "racism" in an attempt to avoid dealing with unpleasant realities.

"Personally, I prefer the light side, to the dark side, so you can always call me a proud Liberal.”

To show you my gratitude for your unstinting pursuit of policies that have made this world worse than it was, may I offer this French phrase which expresses my thanks for your beneficence: Blow me!

Blogger Cail Corishev July 05, 2017 12:45 PM  

I remember when some conservatives used to insist on calling themselves "classical liberals." Don't see that much anymore.

So the bottom line narrative the NYT is pushing here is: the policies of liberalism are still perfectly fine; it's just that the attitudes of some of those pushing them are annoying the crap out of everyone. So let's all bash those fools together, and then get back to pushing those great liberal policies, shall we?

Anonymous DonReynolds July 05, 2017 12:52 PM  

Spectator is an excellent choice, Vox.

Everyone in this article is doing the tiptoe around the most ignored part about Liberalism.....women. Liberalism has the soft-squishy personality of pre-kindergarten teachers. Mental light-weights, with autocratic tendencies, tokenism, virtue signaling, accustomed to unrestrained power and authority in a very small room.

Wait a minute. Not all Liberals are women. You are correct. There are plenty of beta and delta males who hang around the watering hole, waiting for one to come in heat. Sometimes the Liberal hangouts host an occasional alpha, just passing through, and noticed the abundant game. Liberalism may not necessarily be female-led or female-directed, but it is certainly only possible because of women. (Imagine a political party or movement that would appeal to the women on The View.)

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 12:56 PM  

"Hopin'-minded" works okay as a response, but not as a starting category. Spectator generally works: it is someone who blows with the wind and isn't going to do anything to right a wrong, even if they witness it. It isn't as surgical as cuck or SJW, but goes deep enough to cordon them off.

Anonymous Luca Brayson July 05, 2017 12:56 PM  

roadrage wrote:Used to be another name for what we call "liberals" nowadays:

"Churlish."

Or "niggardly."


Niggards. Moderates preach from their moral high ground but never contribute anything to the fight. Plus the unPC sound of the word will explode brains.

Blogger Dirtnapninja July 05, 2017 12:58 PM  

Get ready for an influx of angry former liberals who have been evicted from the left.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 12:59 PM  

Niggard isn't too bad. They are ungenerous and uncharitable with their actions. In it only for themselves.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 1:02 PM  

As in, "Oh great. More free advice from another niggard. How about contributing something of value for a change?"

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 05, 2017 1:03 PM  

Wallflowers.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 1:04 PM  

Niggard Nation: How Moderates Ruin Everything for the Rest of Us might just knock Vox Day from his #1 Political Philosophy perch.

Anonymous roadrage July 05, 2017 1:09 PM  

Behold, a king shall reign in righteousness, and princes shall rule in judgement....
The vile person shall be no more called liberal, nor the churl said to be generous.
For the vile person will speak villany....to make empty the soul of the hungry, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.

Is 32:1,5-6

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 05, 2017 1:10 PM  

They aren't Left-Wing, they aren't Right-Wing. They are just snakes on our plane.

Blogger Nick S July 05, 2017 1:19 PM  

Unimportant, insignificant, inconsequential, pointless, ineffectual, #specktatter

Blogger beerme July 05, 2017 1:20 PM  

Cail Corishev wrote:I remember when some conservatives used to insist on calling themselves "classical liberals." Don't see that much anymore.

I used to be one of those conservatives. Once you become a free trade skeptic that description goes away instantly. Upon reflection, it was a spergy descriptor that only political autistics understood without explanation.

Anonymous Shimshon July 05, 2017 1:21 PM  

Someone suggested transpartisan on the posted towards the end. I get spectator. It is easily understood by the self-labeled moderate. But I still like the other word myself.

Blogger Nick S July 05, 2017 1:24 PM  

[#specktater]

Blogger beerme July 05, 2017 1:25 PM  

Grayman wrote:By the way, what fuck does "intetsectional"? Is it similar to so.eone being drawn and quarteted?

In theory, intersectionality is the idea that you can combine multiple Diversity Pokemon cards and create a new, stronger card.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 05, 2017 1:28 PM  

Principled Compromisers.

We have the Left Cult, spinning like a top in only one direction, who embrace every new "innovation" no matter what.

We have the "centrists" who are the wise & inclusive compromisers, who remind us of their principles even as they hold hands with the butt-**ckers and the MENAS who wipe with fingers and not toilet paper.

And we have the Right. If you're not Alt-Right now, you're not Right...or right.

You're either a corkscrewing lunatic or compromised.

Anonymous BBGKB July 05, 2017 1:35 PM  

especially in looking at the history of a word and where it came from... one can get quite a different impression than what the propagandists

Moslem was changed to muslim to lose the history. Moslems did the first world trade center attack, but muslims brought it down.

Spectraitor nails it. +1

Get ready for an influx of angry former liberals who have been evicted from the left

They found out not everyone can be a commissar but that ditch has a lot of openings

Blogger Arthur Isaac July 05, 2017 1:39 PM  

National Review clucking over the lack of liberal humility. Classic.

Blogger exfarmkid July 05, 2017 1:43 PM  

National Review Troopers (NRT)

Blogger DavidRohm July 05, 2017 1:43 PM  

Man, I love this blog.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning July 05, 2017 1:45 PM  

as the folk singer Phil Ochs once said, ‘‘10 degrees to the left of center in good times, 10 degrees to the right of center if it affects them personally.’’

That's an interesting quote coming from Fake Folk Singer Phil Ochs. He was both extreme right and extreme left, depending on which (programmed?) personality was dominant that day.

andon wrote:i've never heard of half the people mentioned in the article

folk singer Phil Ochs


Here ya go, andon... http://illuminati-news.com/articles2/00203.html

In early summer of 1975, Phil Ochs’ public persona abruptly changed. Using the name John Butler Train, Ochs proclaimed himself to be a CIA operative and presented himself as a belligerent, right-wing thug.

Anonymous LW July 05, 2017 2:04 PM  

They are spectators, but they are unwilling to invest themselves into the show. The reference to "Hamilton" has me favoring something from theater specifically, the spectators in the cheap seats:

Penny Knaves

Might be too archaic for them to catch, so shorten it to - Pennies
Which also indicated their lack of functional value.

Blogger Robert Coble July 05, 2017 2:18 PM  

Pennies from Haven?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 2:33 PM  

LW wrote:favoring something from theater specifically, the spectators in the cheap seats:

Penny Knaves


or, from the circus world, Peanut Gallery.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents July 05, 2017 2:35 PM  

@10 Ben Willis Troll
Liberals were the revolutionaries who fought the English Conservative Redcoats.

Liberals sent in the killers at Waco to burn people alive on national TV, then lied about it to Congress and the American people.

Blogger Bill July 05, 2017 2:44 PM  

And you know what else they agree on? Everybody loves America, NO MATTER WHAT!!
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/449225/america-can-you-stop-loving-her-if-she-changes

Anonymous Antipas July 05, 2017 2:49 PM  

We need to take the word "progress" away from so-called progressives, leftists, etc. As well as their "current-yearism" crap. Why are women foregoing career prioritization in order to raise children and have cohesive families? Because it's 2017!

Anonymous 11B July 05, 2017 2:51 PM  

Liberal used to be the term to describe those who believed in free markets and individualism. According to Hayek in 1943, the term was then already being co-opted by progressives who were most assuredly not for free markets or individualism. Today liberal has been totally trashed and is no longer associated with its original meaning from the eighteen hundreds.

How does it remain in its original form in Australia? I was surprised to find that center-right party in Australia still goes by the name Liberal. How did the term survive there for so long?

Blogger SmockMan July 05, 2017 3:13 PM  

They didn't use my personal favorite: leftoid.

Anonymous Elcid Barrett July 05, 2017 3:21 PM  

@69: That's always been one of my favorites.

@10: Shut the fuck up, Donny, you're out of your element...hey, that could work, yeh?

Anonymous Clouseau July 05, 2017 3:23 PM  

Uber-Liberals are the new Limousine Liberals.

Blogger Sheila4g July 05, 2017 3:35 PM  

@12 AxeMan: ""And now we know what to call moderates...."

How about his term from pro wrestling? Mark."

I like spectator, but in the same vein as a "mark," how about the British term "punter"? Means they don't decide or finish anything and push everything down the road, plus the British connotation of someone who bets or a client of a prostitute. Too esoteric?

Blogger tz July 05, 2017 4:07 PM  

Spec 'taters? Well, moderates were always small potatoes, though they had lots of eyes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 4:08 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:how about the British term "punter"? Means they don't decide or finish anything and push everything down the road,
I thought "punter" meant "working class Joe" in England, as in the kind of guy who will nip out to the betting shop and punt 20 pounds on a footie game.

Anonymous Sally TR July 05, 2017 4:15 PM  

Why do moderates of both parties alway think better than those on the left or right? Because they are deeper, more engaged, less prone to rhetoric thinkers.

Anonymous The Eighteenhundredsman July 05, 2017 4:29 PM  

Jesus, you people aren't even trying today.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 4:32 PM  

Sally TR wrote:Why do moderates of both parties alway think better than those on the left or right? Because they are deeper, more engaged, less prone to rhetoric thinkers.

Why do moderates of both parties always think that they think better than those on the left or right? Because they are shallower, less engaged, and more vulnerable to rhetoric. They can barely be described as thinkers, resorting instead to cheap, baseless assertions of superiority to justify their stupid arrogance and cowardice.

Anonymous Snidely''s Top July 05, 2017 4:38 PM  

"cowardice".... the animating emotion that leads one to reside thoughtlessly on the left or right.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 05, 2017 4:40 PM  

No one's more vulnerable to rhetoric than the person who thinks he isn't. That's like playing poker against someone who insists he has no tells. Lick your chops.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 4:47 PM  

Snidely''s CabanaBoy wrote:"cowardice".... the animating emotion that leads one to reside thoughtlessly on the left or right.
Cowardice, the animating emotion that leads one to refuse to say anything that might offend the Left.

Blogger Lovekraft July 05, 2017 5:01 PM  

Canadian liberals that I've experienced are smug, condescending and generally ignorant. Lacking that inquisitiveness. Passive. But prone to quick outbursts when you get too close.

Roger Waters's lyrics suits them: "The bravery of being out of range."

Blogger Jack Ward July 05, 2017 5:13 PM  

So:
Spectator
Swishy Spectator
Faggoty Spectator
Maggoty Spectator
Spectard
Fence straddling Spectator
Spectational
Spectational confused and meme disoriented.

You know, there may be a future to this 'spectator' thing...who would have guessed...

Anonymous TroubleSpeak July 05, 2017 5:21 PM  

I'm going to start warning these spectators not to let the fence they're sitting on get stuck in their asscrack.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 5:31 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:Roger Waters's lyrics suits them: "The bravery of being out of range."
Oh God, that's perfect.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 05, 2017 6:24 PM  

So if you fight them on the Moral Level of war you might actually win?

Well frack that we're conservatives

Anonymous andon July 05, 2017 6:27 PM  

@ 61 - Deplorable Winning

thx

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 05, 2017 6:30 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:Roger Waters's lyrics suits them: "The bravery of being out of range."
I think I would modify it:
"The bravery of thinking you're out of range."

Blogger tweell July 05, 2017 7:48 PM  

I've been using compromiser, myself. Seems to work okay.

Blogger Quilp July 05, 2017 7:50 PM  

Mort Kondracke comes to mind. I picture him trying desperately to keep his Frank Luntz feel-good-meter in the center zone of popular opinion, telling politicians exactly what they want to hear, so they never have to listen to any unpleasant truths.

Blogger Unknown July 05, 2017 8:07 PM  

Cuck-sucker.

Duh-ave

Anonymous Thomas de Weil July 05, 2017 8:11 PM  

"I've been using compromiser, myself. Seems to work okay."

The U.S. Constitution was the product of compromise by American moderates.

Blogger James July 05, 2017 9:01 PM  

Given their constant mutating of norms and standards......Transervatives?

Blogger James July 05, 2017 9:03 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:

Roger Waters's lyrics suits them: "The bravery of being out of range."


How about "Forward they cried from the rear and the front ranks died".

Blogger Cail Corishev July 05, 2017 9:23 PM  

Something's working to bring out the moderate butthurt, anyway.

Anonymous Luke July 05, 2017 10:17 PM  

Anytime someone tries to tell me that liberals are the most tolerant people, this is my retort:
I say, what is their tolerance towards my keeping 100% of what I earn, my having 100% of the say of whom I hire in my business, having 100% of the say of how I use my property, or 100% of what I write or speak aloud? Nowadays, I'd have to add asking what their tolerance would be for my getting 100% of the say in deciding what I believe constitutes marriage; queers or lesbos "marrying" same, no, while fault-only/Tender Years doctrine ended, yes. Zip zero null nada zilch tolerance from any liberal on those I've ever known. Heck, even a Libertarian Party member would likely fail my test.
And, I haven't even gotten into immigration (toleration for my bedrock position that all Muslims and 3rd-World born nonwhites should be deported today) or racial/sexual differences in behavior and IQ...

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 05, 2017 10:55 PM  

Thomas de Weil wrote:The U.S. Constitution was the product of compromise by American moderates.

I don't think that's an argument in favor of compromise.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky July 06, 2017 12:53 AM  

They used to be called 'progressives', then they ruined that label. So they appropriated the term 'liberal', and it was a complete and total appropriation. One hundred years ago, the term 'liberal' would have been understood to mean what we now call a 'classical liberal'. Adam Smith type-of-thing. Yeah, they turned that into Alan Alda and worse.

So, they've sullied the term and they have been running away from it for some time now. The children who are their movement now are proudly and ironically resurrecting the term their forebears formerly ruined, as they re-Christen themselves as proud 'progressives'.

You get stupidity like this from the camp that keeps airbrushing history and adamantly denying reality.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable July 06, 2017 2:11 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:"Spectator" is as good as anything else we've come up with. It doesn't have the immediate impact of "cuckservative," since it isn't directly tied to "moderate." (Why is it so hard to come up with a useful portmanteau or alteration of that word?) But it should sting when they realize it's being applied to them, because they like to think their above-it-all pose means they're advising both sides from a superior position, not sitting on the sidelines where no one else even notices them.

If no portmanteau, then just use the word: a Moderate (or Liberal) King is a political cross between a Madden King and a Secret King. He can talk a good game, but everything he does is a simulacrum; and the more he pretends it's real, the more onanistic it becomes.

Or, you know, just call him a fence-humper. And then tell him to see a proctologist for the splinters.

Or, given Twitter's most vulgar (and funny) nickname, "specktwatter" might work.

Anonymous Elcid Barrett July 06, 2017 2:27 AM  

Boom. It was also a rather narrow compromise between otherwise profoundly uncompromising people who had just recently bled for long in pursuit of their interests.

Anonymous Jill July 06, 2017 3:21 AM  

Liberal is bound to be the default, or moderate take, as that ideal is the bedrock of our nation. Not that it's a good bedrock, as liberalism isn't one coherent philosophy, based off...well, something else that ought to be a bedrock. But liberalism in all its slipperiness is a nice suggestion to those who appreciate "reasonableness" to the extent that disruptors are the cause of cognitive dissonance.

Anonymous Pennywise July 06, 2017 7:20 AM  

"The U.S. Constitution was the product of compromise by American moderates."

Exactly.

Anonymous Luke July 06, 2017 1:18 PM  

I'd prefer to see an attack directly at the left's idol - tolerance

Call the moderates the tolerable
(never call them tolerant, only tolerable)

Everything the moderate does and says is tolerable. "How very tolerable of you". Enshrine the mediocrity of tolerance. Get their gut reaction to want to avoid being tolerable. Make the argument for tolerance an argument for "meh". (additional benefit - tolerable in an antonym of deplorable)

Blogger Darwinite July 07, 2017 1:04 PM  

@68 I believe it was the fact that the Liberal Party was formed as Australia's conservative party before the meaning of the word began to change in the US.

Moderates in the Liberal Party often use the distinction "small 'l' liberal" to distinguish their social policy from the more conservative "capital 'L' Liberal" positions.

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