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Thursday, July 20, 2017

He did warn us

That he was about to break. Chester Bennington of Linkin Park commits suicide at 41.

We're all very upset about Godfrey Elfwick, of course, but please remember, that's not what Saint Godfrey would have wanted.

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Blogger Vlad July 20, 2017 3:39 PM  

His songs were an outlet for people to vent their frustration. Not sure what people will think of him now that he gave up.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 20, 2017 3:43 PM  

Well, that's certainly a shocker. (No joke.)

Blogger SirGroggy July 20, 2017 3:44 PM  

He took the news of Godfrey's demise harder than most.

But, rest easy, for he is with Godfrey now, by his side...

Blogger Troy Lee Messer July 20, 2017 3:45 PM  

Left behind 6 kids. Wow. What a #$@!ing coward. Whaaaaa I'm rich and famous. Whaaaaa! %$#@ him.

Blogger Nate July 20, 2017 3:54 PM  

He was just a crack in this castle of glass....

Blogger Nate July 20, 2017 3:56 PM  

He had proof about Seth Rich.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 20, 2017 3:58 PM  

He definitely had ties to Hillary.

What did he know?

Blogger Wanderer July 20, 2017 4:02 PM  

Hollywood and showbiz are disgusting environments, and I can't say that I'm surprised that another celebrity abused themselves to death with drugs. I hope his kids are ok.

Anonymous Looking Glass July 20, 2017 4:29 PM  

@4 Troy Lee Messer

This isn't an apology for the man's actions, as suicide is actually about the most selfish act possible, but I've done some deeper research on the topic and I'm pretty sure "it's the drugs" is always the best answer.

It's a complicated technical discussion, but the core of it is that the "thought of suicide" is actually the significant cause of suicides. In a properly working brain, there are preventative systems to kill the thought if it arrives. If there is significant impairment in the ability to shut down that process, it starts the Suicide Cycle. Once begun, the person is functionally trapped in a mental state that will drive them towards suicide.

But, and this is the important insight, the likely cause of the pain is the Thought itself. It's a self-induced form of Chinese "Mental" Water Torture. Certain classes of stimulants and any Cortisol-effecting drugs (legal or not) can prevent the mind from severing the Suicide Cycle. Thus, in this case, it's very possible the recent suicide of Chris Cornell trapped Chester into the cycle.

There's a reason why Suicide can "chain" among the associated, it's predictable along regional & dietary patterns and it has its own Logical Spiral associated with it.

Anonymous E. July 20, 2017 4:34 PM  

One of the articles I read said he'd been sexually abused by an older friend when he was 7 and turned to "light" drugs after his parents divorced.

It's a horrible thing, but the older I get the more I'm thinking that modern families offer little or no protection to their children. These kids make it to adulthood with no anchor, no foundation and they sink or crumble.

Terrible for his family and friends.

OpenID brefaucheux July 20, 2017 4:38 PM  

Linkin Park was such a great outlet for me in high school. Very bummed about his death.

Blogger Nate July 20, 2017 4:39 PM  

it shouldn't be ignored that he was friends with Chris Cornell. People who have friends or family commit suicide are a much more risk of suicide themselves

Blogger Dedd Sirius July 20, 2017 5:00 PM  

I want to listen to music by white men that is catchy, uplifting, and fun.

I recently rediscovered the band Collective Soul and their work is prolific, excellent, and amazingly good.

Singing their songs over and over again in my head on long mountain bike rides and while lifting weights.

Blogger SteelPalm July 20, 2017 5:09 PM  

I remember briefly liking the band for a brief spell in junior high, a mere 16-17 years ago. I had bad taste then.

Speaking of which, this is a good time to post this awesome classic, my strongest memory of the band;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYNRhzX6gw8

@9 Looking Glass

That's a very astute observation. I remember realizing the same thing back when Hunter S Thompson killed himself. The drugs burn out whatever region of the brain tells a person "hey, this is not the way out! Stop thinking about it!"

Blogger JACIII July 20, 2017 5:09 PM  

If I woke up one morning and discovered I had put that shit in my ears I'd die of shame, too.

Anonymous James Parliament July 20, 2017 5:28 PM  

Always liked them, myself.

Blogger YIH July 20, 2017 5:34 PM  

Least surprising news of the year. I used to like Linkin Park, but most of they're songs had a heavy suicide motif.
Didn't know about the Lizard Queen connection, perhaps Courtney Love wanted to play some more IRL 'Duck Hunt'...
PULL!

Anonymous Baseball Savant July 20, 2017 5:34 PM  

VD,

Did you ever meet Chester in your endeavors in the music industry? I met him once and he seemed like a decent enough fellow although it wasn't much more than a "Hi, how's it going" type of thing.

Blogger CM July 20, 2017 5:41 PM  

I read about McCain and my response had me questioning my mental health.

Then this happens and I find out my empathy meter is working just fine.

Blogger Chris McCullough July 20, 2017 5:55 PM  

Now who will make the same song 4 million times perpetually?

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 20, 2017 6:03 PM  

@20 BURN!!!!

I hope his family is doing alright.

I remember hating listening to Linkin Park going to school. My brother would always play it my freshman year of high school ('01-'02) as we drove to school. That said, with time, I have grown to like some of their songs. Note, I said some.

Blogger SteelPalm July 20, 2017 6:24 PM  

@21

My freshman year of high school was also 2001-2002, but it was the period when I stopped liking them. It didn't help that the most ridiculous posers were big fans of theirs.

That being said, they were/are better than the average successful pop band.

Blogger Sam Lively July 20, 2017 6:29 PM  

I preferred Creed and P.O.D from the embarrassing post-grunge/rap-metal bands that dominated white Christian suburbia around the turn of the millennium. Never liked Linkin Park's vocals or vibe. Always thought it was over-the-top whiny rage.

For suburban suicide music, I did like Adam's Song by blink-182. I guess Linkin Park's rage was more legit in the end.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 20, 2017 6:34 PM  

"That being said, they were/are better than the average successful pop band."

Yet in the end, it doesn't even matter.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer July 20, 2017 6:49 PM  

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Anonymous Looking Glass July 20, 2017 6:53 PM  

@24 Noah B The Savage Gardener

Wow. That is a deep burn.


@14 SteelPalm

I was over at weka's place (gab.ai/weka) reading a post and got into a deep, deep dive on the topic. It's definitely within the Cortisol axis, which is why the anti-depressants (which don't work unless your brain is beyond fried) can lead to "suicidal thoughts". That's actually not the case. Those thoughts come up regularly. We're talking about suicide in this very thread. The issue isn't the thoughts; it's the body's ability to kill those thoughts.

Think of it like a computer program that gets caught in a loop and slowly eats up all of the system memory because the OS can't kill it normally. Your body has several ways it prevents that loop from getting stuck. Suppressing certain aspects of the nervous & endocrine systems seems to block the ability for the Stop Function to activate. For those "troubled" as young children, there's likely a lack of development of certain functions, in some cases. (Genetic inheritance is common, as well.)

The real "killer" seems to be Ecstasy, at least among Western, Wheat-eating populations. (Populations with Wheat will see a RAPID suicide rate rise with the introduction of Wheat. Gut + Nervous system inflammatory effects are seen in a few % of any population due to Gluten.) I draw that conclusion from the UK. There's a few specific cohort that was between 15 & 20 during the Mad-Chester era when E got big over there. They've had a roughly 7 per 100k higher suicide rate that's been running through the UK ever since. That plus the Wheat issue points to the Cortisol and the Stress Response Axis within the body being dysfuncted. Once someone gets in a bad enough place, physically or mentally, the Thought can turn into the Suicide Cycle.

Blogger YIH July 20, 2017 7:35 PM  

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Anonymous Takin' a Look July 20, 2017 7:37 PM  

According to anon at /pol, he killed himself because he is the bastard son of John Podesta and found out about... Well everything, Haiti, comet pizza, etc and put two and two together.

Blogger YIH July 20, 2017 7:50 PM  

Sam Lively wrote:I preferred Creed and P.O.D from the embarrassing post-grunge/rap-metal bands that dominated white Christian suburbia around the turn of the millennium. Never liked Linkin Park's vocals or vibe. Always thought it was over-the-top whiny rage.

For suburban suicide music, I did like Adam's Song by blink-182. I guess Linkin Park's rage was more legit in the end.


I could have continued to like both of them but radio played them to death. Then later, when Creed became the new Stryper I couldn't stand them anymore.

Anonymous DirkH July 20, 2017 8:35 PM  

That's what not drinking does to you. Like Muslim suicide bombers. In Muslim paradise there's a river of booze. That's the only reason they wanna get there.

Anonymous DirkH July 20, 2017 8:43 PM  

@26. Looking Glass
"The real "killer" seems to be Ecstasy, at least among Western, Wheat-eating populations."

The ECSTATIC people have to spend entire weekend nights in darkness twitching to a monotonous beat, sleeping during the day. During the workweek they spend their days in offices shaded from the sun. Half of the year the UK has polar winter, meaning no UV at all.
Take all this together and you have Vitamin D deficiency for the ages. Presto, suicides.
The farther north you go in Europe the more drug deaths and suicides you get. I just read I think a zerohedge article with the statistics. The author confabulated SOMETHING about drug policies affecting suicide rate and was entirely incapable of recognizing the simple latitudinal distribution of suicide rates.
Also, the ECSTATIC people do not drink enough.

Blogger William Hudson July 20, 2017 9:34 PM  

@30. DirkH I agree. Over 40 good years of drinking usually made me want to fight, or kill someone, not myself. I'm glad that God took that away from me. Although, I read that there's some pretty good wine in heaven.

Anonymous Bob Ramar July 20, 2017 9:42 PM  

And we should care because ... ?

Anonymous Ham Solo July 20, 2017 9:46 PM  

>Collective Soul

I Believe.... you have good taste. Highly recommend their music as well.

Blogger Mountain Man July 20, 2017 11:11 PM  

@31
Spent most of my early twenties in a haze. My preference was good home grown marijuana ( of which I grew plenty) and mushrooms. Had a hippie girlfriend at the time who took ecstasy and after doing so , vowed never to do it again. She said life was so bland after her trip, she was worried that if she did it regularly it would make life not worth living.

Blogger Lemur July 21, 2017 1:49 AM  

Most of these West coast celebrities hate themselves.

Anonymous Jilvae July 21, 2017 1:54 AM  

Two of my friends committed suicide in the past few months. One was a heavy drug user whom I had lost contact with. The other wasn't. Nobody knows why she did it. It's like there are empty holes ripped in the universe where they once existed. It's a horrible hole to leave for others. I hope/pray Chester's kids will be all right.

Blogger Lucas July 21, 2017 3:16 AM  

He was raped by an older sodomite

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Penguins Fan July 21, 2017 4:16 AM  

"He had proof about Seth Rich."

Or maybe he was speaking publicly about the dangers of chemtrails (like Prince), vaccines, and chemotherapy?

I am not being sarcastic here either....

Anonymous Jack July 21, 2017 5:20 AM  

I always thought Linkin Park sounded like it was fronted by Beavis, if Beavis were inclined to Trent Reznor-esque whiny self-pity instead of just saying "Fire! Fire! Fire!"

Blogger Cleveland Screamer July 21, 2017 6:34 AM  

I don't really have an opinion on LP either way, but if your immediate reaction to seeing this topic was to come sprinting in here to perversely virtue-signal just how much they sucked and you hate them, maybe take a step back and think about your own life for a minute.

Blogger YIH July 21, 2017 7:07 AM  

He joined the hot new celebutard trend of doing a self necktie party.

Blogger Eric Steiger July 21, 2017 7:31 AM  

@14 @26 Excellent points.
MRIs on long term drug addicts are revealing that the area of the frontal lobe associated with rational decion making shows greatly diminished activity even 1 year or more after sobriety, while areas associated with emotional impulse are amped up (and can remain somewhat elevated compared to a non addict permanently).
There's also the fact that almost all chronic drug abusers start well before the brain is fully developed.
I've been seeing a lot of statements to the effect of, "Oh that poor millionaire rock star. Whaaa!" Although that make people who say it feel superior, it misses the deeper reality that, if your brain is misfiring in a way that makes you prone to severe and chronic depression, it doesn't make one bit of difference what your social status is or what material possessions you have.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 21, 2017 9:55 AM  

Hybrid Theory was one of my gateway drugs to metal.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 21, 2017 9:57 AM  

I think average amygdala activation has gone up in the age of Trump. Personally, I enjoy the challenge of staying cool in a chaotic situation, but I understand we aren't all built this way.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( more Natural Born Kekistani than if my mother was a native of Moorhead MN and my father came from Cockram Mill VA ... so to speak ) July 21, 2017 10:09 AM  

friends with Chris Cornell? you don't say?

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/06/so-did-not-see-that-coming.html

Blogger Iowahine July 21, 2017 10:13 AM  

Brain chemistry is key; oversimple statement: over-stimulation of dopamine down-regulates dopamine. It's a hole. Brain research in recent years is fascinating. Becoming is more invigorating that having become. That is, wanting/longing/striving is essentially more fulfilling and provides more purpose/meaning that achieving one's goal. Obviously, this is why striving, achieving or striving/failing but mostly, regrouping, repurposing, moving on is what undergirds a decent life. Between drugs, earthly obligations, and no way out, the "music star" seeks way out of lethargy and cycle of hope (no drug/craving) & despair (drug/status quo).

Anonymous Anonymous July 21, 2017 11:19 AM  

Never understood guys in bands offing themselves. What, they got too much snatch and they couldn't handle it?

- Nobody

Anonymous Ivor Biggun July 21, 2017 11:54 AM  

First Chris Cornell, then Chester Bennington. The nu metal stranglewank is to be feared. Fred Durst must be pissing his pants.

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