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Friday, July 07, 2017

Milo sues Simon & Schuster

This should prove interesting, one way or another:
Milo Yiannopoulos, the former Breitbart tech editor and self-styled conservative provocateur whose public battle with Simon & Schuster following the publisher's decision to cancel his book deal and its reported $250,000 advance, has kept his promise to self-publish his book, Dangerous, in spite of the setback—and to continue to cause problems for S&S. Following the book's release on July 4, Yiannopoulos held a rally and protest outside the S&S offices on July 7, where, he told PW Thursday evening , he was to announce a $10 million lawsuit against the publisher for "breach of contract."

Dangerous was the #1 bestseller and #1 new release on Amazon immediately following its July 4 publication; Yiannopoulos's outside PR firm, AMW Public Relations, told PW that "100,000 copies were delivered to Amazon and sold out in the first day of release," although "a large number of them were on pre-order." Matt Sheldon, director of business development at the firm, said that hard copies are being distributed through Amazon and Barnes & Noble, adding that "100,000 more copies are being printed now and will be distributed to Amazon [and] B&N as well as some other outlets."
My expectation is that despite its posturing about prevailing "in court" - they are sending a message that they will not settle - S&S will settle for paying off Milo. Why? Because they absolutely do NOT want this to go to discovery. Remember, I am a former Pocket Books author with connections inside S&S, and I have heard that there were conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery.

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121 Comments:

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 07, 2017 1:02 PM  

Yes! Yes! Yes!

Blogger #7139 July 07, 2017 1:04 PM  

Vox is tormenting us again with secret knowledge. Darn.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 07, 2017 1:07 PM  

He really is dangerous.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Communists murdered +100 Million trying to genocide the Bourgeois. suffering a Marxist to live is a Crime Against Humanity ) July 07, 2017 1:10 PM  

don't you mean "occult"?

2.beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
3.secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated.
4.hidden from view.
5.not apparent on mere inspection but discoverable by experimentation. of a nature not understood, as physical qualities.
11.to become hidden or shut off from view.


that's right, i said it.

Vox is an occultist.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 1:11 PM  

I know what it is, and it IS juicy.

Blogger Jack Ward July 07, 2017 1:12 PM  

Good
Good for Milo. Good for the Cause.
What Cause? Cause it's good to stomp on SJW's of any description.
Personally, I like the idea of Milo getting some coin; However, I would love to see this go to discovery.

Blogger Brian Niemeier July 07, 2017 1:13 PM  

"S&S will settle for paying Milo several million."

That is the most entertaining way I have heard of for an author to GET PAID!

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky July 07, 2017 1:13 PM  

Great news. May Milo rake them over the coals.

Blogger Elocutioner July 07, 2017 1:13 PM  

A major book publisher colluding with the monopolist that controls the book market? Yes, I can see how that would be troubling. Would be a real shame if something were to happen to your monopoly, Jeff...

(And don't sperg about the definition of a monopoly. Legally it's whatever you can convince a judge to accept.)

Anonymous Kapper July 07, 2017 1:17 PM  

According to the linked article, Milo was allowed to keep $80,000 of the $250K advance. Was this what they call in publishing a Kill Fee?

And did Milo sign away any rights to sue S&S when he kept the $80K? He may not have much of a breach of contract case if he did.

Blogger Salt July 07, 2017 1:19 PM  

Markku wrote:I know what it is, and it IS juicy.

Tease.

Anonymous One Deplorable DT July 07, 2017 1:26 PM  

I'm not tired of winning. And I'm not tired of Milo winning either.

Anonymous veryfunnyminion July 07, 2017 1:26 PM  

I got the dirt straight from Wendell the Manatee:

"Mewhoooooo, eeehhhwoooo moowhooooo hooooooon? Meeewhooooooo weeeewooooooo flooooooo fleeeeeeeeerp Flooooeeeeeeerp."

Milo's got the by the balls, sounds like.

Blogger Dave July 07, 2017 1:30 PM  

Following the book's release on July 4, Yiannopoulos held a rally and protest outside the S&S
offices on July 7


Today is the 7th. If Milo held a rally/protest it was early.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer July 07, 2017 1:36 PM  

Kapper wrote:According to the linked article, Milo was allowed to keep $80,000 of the $250K advance. Was this what they call in publishing a Kill Fee?

And did Milo sign away any rights to sue S&S when he kept the $80K? He may not have much of a breach of contract case if he did.


Read it again. The point is not the chance of winning the case. The point is to get to discovery so that other uncomfortable secrets can be exposed to sunlight.

Anonymous Percy Grier July 07, 2017 1:37 PM  

I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?

Blogger J Van Stry July 07, 2017 1:40 PM  

Have to admit that I'm curious as to what went on, having dealt with the SJW's over in Amazon's marketing department myself, and gotten them to admit that they wish they could censor all book covers on Amazon as easily as they censor the ones in their ads (Wish I had recorded that phone call).

Blogger Ransom Smith July 07, 2017 1:42 PM  

Vox has secret knowledge and he won't share?

*Grumbles*

Anonymous Trump July 07, 2017 1:43 PM  

Why should anyone trust anonymous sources?

Blogger Wyndie July 07, 2017 1:43 PM  

@Percy

Alinsky's rules are in play for both sides.

Blogger pyrrhus July 07, 2017 1:46 PM  

I think S&S and Amazon probably have a lot of dirty linen that would come out in lawsuit discovery and trial. I predict a quick and substantial settlement...

Anonymous basementhomebrewer July 07, 2017 1:46 PM  

Percy Grier wrote:I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?


You are confusing us with Cucks. We don't play the "rules for us but not our enemies game". Anything you put into play is a valid tactic for us to use in kind. Think about that long and hard before you degenerate into violence against us.

Blogger pyrrhus July 07, 2017 1:48 PM  

@16 Are you nuts? Lawsuits are another important weapon in the cultural battle, and the alt-right needs to use all the weapons available. Where did you get the idea that unilateral disarmament is a tenet of the alt-right? Sounds strictly cuckservative to me....

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 07, 2017 1:48 PM  

REPR

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 07, 2017 1:52 PM  

Remember, I am a former Pocket Books author with connections inside S&S, and I have heard that there were conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery.

I'm having flashbacks to the 2016 presidential campaign...

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 07, 2017 1:52 PM  

Still not tired.

Blogger Ingot9455 July 07, 2017 1:52 PM  

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 07, 2017 1:54 PM  

Percy Grier wrote:I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?


I wouldn't phrase it like that exactly, it's just that We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White Children.

Blogger Aeoli Pera July 07, 2017 1:54 PM  

But also yes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 07, 2017 1:58 PM  

Percy Grier wrote:I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?

You're confusing us with Cuckservatives.

The alt-Right is about using their weapons against them. The alt-Right is about winning, by whatever means necessary. The alt-Right is about brawling.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 07, 2017 2:00 PM  

Good for him. Hope he cleans their clock.

Anonymous krymneth July 07, 2017 2:04 PM  

Remember, a settlement is mutual. If Milo is after discovery, he can reject any settlement offer. S&S can only settle this away if Milo agrees.

Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 2:07 PM  

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?

lets see, as a white male im legally discriminated against in both education and employment so who has those "special privileges" percy?

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 07, 2017 2:08 PM  

Jeffy-B's biz is a major vector for all manner of counterfeiting, IP violations of every type, fraud and likely money laundering. That's just what can be gleaned by some observation. He and his associates might pay handsomely to avert a full discovery process.

Blogger Chris McCullough July 07, 2017 2:09 PM  

At what phase does Infogalactic replace Amazon?

Anonymous Jim Scrummy July 07, 2017 2:12 PM  

What? Christmas in July via discovery...! That should be fun to watch (I have my bowl of popcorn ready), if it gets to that phase?

Oh, Percy, please do remember it is a two-way range in regards to any and all tactics used by lefties, such as yourself, trollboy. The Marquess of Queensberry rules only apply to the cuckies. The only ones who like a fair fight are the cuckies, which means their tactics suck.

Blogger Elocutioner July 07, 2017 2:12 PM  

@Wyndie -

Once again they mistake us for Republicans.

But you're exactly right. Read through this list of the left's tactics and find any where the left can outdo the alt-right. There's none. We're superior in every way. Once you understand their playbook you understand how a bunch of gamers was able to route a more organized, coordinated, and well-funded media complex. Because - re: their feelings - We. Don't. Care. They're mentally unstable children.

This round is the battle for the future of our children and Western Civilization. The left's natural conclusion is our bondage and servitude to them, their outcome is a dystopia. They're still mostly confining themselves to rhetoric. Once enough people stop caring about their whiny emoting and guilt trips the only thing left to them will be violence. Because introspection is not an option, only feelz. Then we move to the next chapter. Deus Vult.

1. Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have.
2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.
3. Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy.
4. Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.
5. Ridicule is man's most potent weapon.
6. A good tactic is one your people enjoy.
7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.
8. Keep the pressure on. Never let up.
9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.
10. If you push a negative hard enough, it will push through and become a positive.
11. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.
12. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Anonymous Korbin Ransley July 07, 2017 2:13 PM  

Milo is great. I wish him continued success in the future. I hope they settle with him if that's what he wants. But I would like to see what could come out during discovery. ��

Anonymous Roundtine July 07, 2017 2:13 PM  

If Milo is after discovery, he can reject any settlement offer.

Amazon is a publicly traded corporation. It's market capitalization changes by $1 billion every time it moves 0.2%.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 07, 2017 2:14 PM  

Chris McCullough wrote:At what phase does Infogalactic replace Amazon?
Just after Amazon becomes profitable

Blogger James Dixon July 07, 2017 2:25 PM  

> I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

What part of "we play by the rules you set" escaped you?

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 07, 2017 2:26 PM  

Is Milo going to come out ahead on the self publishing deal?

Anonymous 3000Feet July 07, 2017 2:28 PM  

Interesting. There must be an angel who came to Milo's aid in recent months after the S&S cancel. There is a mini-billboard / poster promotional campaign around Chicago. I was astonished to see these posters at various Chicago "L" stations. Hope the book sells well!

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 07, 2017 2:28 PM  

"I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?"

If a tactic works to our advantage, we support it.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 2:29 PM  

Alt-Right has always been for lawfare. It is precisely the exchange from noble defeat to tactics that are already shown to work and intending to win, that turned us into Alt-Right, from Conservatives.

Blogger Happy LP9 July 07, 2017 2:30 PM  

Great, good luck Milo!

"Don't get mad, get everything."

Anonymous DirkH July 07, 2017 2:30 PM  

39. Roundtine July 07, 2017 2:13 PM
"Amazon is a publicly traded corporation. It's market capitalization changes by $1 billion every time it moves 0.2%."

Well and if it comes out that they're censoring that'll be a bunch of billions less. And maybe a lawsuit. Maybe a class action lawsuit for abuse of market dominating position. What's it called in USA? Anti trust laws?

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 2:31 PM  

While we were Conservatives, we whined about how unfair it all is. Now, we have whined long enough, and now we act. We will stop upon total annihilation of the enemy.

Blogger VD July 07, 2017 2:33 PM  

Is Milo going to come out ahead on the self publishing deal?

Certainly.

Blogger Elocutioner July 07, 2017 2:35 PM  

"There must be an angel who came to Milo's aid in recent months"

I didn't see if he announced who his media partners are, but somebody with deep pockets is working with him. If I was a billionaire and I wanted to stick my thumb in the sanctimonious eyes of my enemies then throwing a few million at someone like Milo, pointing him in the right direction, and setting him loose would be endlessly amusing. (Such as the Shapiro midgets at his book launch party.) In this case it's likely to be rather profitable as well.

Blogger pyrrhus July 07, 2017 2:36 PM  

@48 We stop when the helicopter rides are no longer necessary....

Blogger Ken Prescott July 07, 2017 2:38 PM  

Shut up fag

Anonymous Rather, Not July 07, 2017 2:38 PM  

Interesting. S&S might not be in a great place economically to pay Milo off, and their CBS parent might not be eager to kick in, but it is Amazon who might be more interested in avoiding the discovery. They have the money, but not the means to pay, as they aren't the defendant. I wonder if there is some sort of 'special deal' for Amazon to give S&S or another CBS property a kickback or favor to backdoor fund the settlement. I wonder if Amazon prime is about to pay extra to stream CBS shows or something like that. And I wonder if that comes out in discovery. I should think their smart enough to not do that in any discoverable form, but people do really stupid things all the time, especially the media.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable July 07, 2017 2:41 PM  

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?

Establish the rules of engagement, live with the consequences. We have finally figured you out. Hard cheese.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 2:46 PM  

If you try to shame us with appeals to honor, you don't understand the Alt-Right. We REVEL in our efficiency. It only energizes us.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 07, 2017 3:17 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Chris McCullough wrote:At what phase does Infogalactic replace Amazon?

Just after Amazon becomes profitable


It would be pretty silly to replace them while they're still losing money, after all.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 07, 2017 3:18 PM  

More power to him. I hope he cleans them out.

Blogger John Cunningham July 07, 2017 3:19 PM  

VFM 424 here--yo Percy Dovetonsils, here's a great idea. How about if you just ESADMF??

Anonymous BBGKB July 07, 2017 3:22 PM  

conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery

Then up the amount of the lawsuit.

I know what it is, and it IS juicy.

Did they expect Milo to go on the casting couch?

I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

In this case would a gay jew judge be good or bad for Milo?

2. Never go outside the expertise of your people.

The left has trouble burning flags without setting themselves on fire, while the alt right can find a flag based on the sky behind it.

If I was a billionaire and I wanted to stick my thumb in the sanctimonious eyes of my enemies then throwing a few million at someone

Dear Alt Right billionaire if you need a faggot to burn some korans for you call me.

Blogger Chiva July 07, 2017 3:23 PM  

"If you try to shame us with appeals to honor, you don't understand the Alt-Right."

We should not show honor to fools. Proverbs 26:8.

Blogger Basil Makedon July 07, 2017 3:24 PM  

Whatever this juicy tidbit is, even if Milo's case does make it to the discovery phase, the general public may not ever learn it. They may be able to shield it from publication using a Protective Order. It is even possible that they could shield it from Milo and only his attorneys would be able to see it.

The default setting in US courts is that court cases are public; however, exceptions are made for things like trade secrets or personal information (e.g. SSNs).

So @VD and @Markku the question would be whether you'd consider this juicy bit of information to be plausibly framed as a trade secret or not.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 07, 2017 3:31 PM  

Basil Makedon wrote:They may be able to shield it from publication using a Protective Order. It is even possible that they could shield it from Milo and only his attorneys would be able to see it.

So, if Milo learned about it from some other source, the protective order wouldn't apply. After all, if his attorneys never told him what it was, he wouldn't know that he had the protected information!

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 07, 2017 3:46 PM  

I am a former Pocket Books author with connections inside S&S, and I have heard that there were conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery.

There is always the possibility that these conversations weren't anything illegal...

(*Cataline drums his fingers speculatively*)

Just hideously embarrassing.

Consider the fashionable Left wing circles the executives from both companies like to run in and a few possibilities begin to arise.

Blogger DJ|Bonky July 07, 2017 3:47 PM  

I don't understand Amazon, sometimes. In the app on my phone, Amazon showed the book having a rank of #3. In my mobile browser, Amazon had it at #73 seconds later. On my laptop, the only tank I found was #1 in Politics and Conservatism, or something like that. It makes no sense to me why it wouldn't be the same across all platforms.

Blogger The Morrigan July 07, 2017 3:49 PM  

Goons. The tl;dr is goons.

It's always those bloody goons.

Anonymous c matt July 07, 2017 3:54 PM  

Downside: the more successful his book, the less he can claim for damages.

Anonymous c matt July 07, 2017 3:58 PM  

I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

No. Just against snowflakes getting their way.

Blogger DJ|Bonky July 07, 2017 4:02 PM  

I'm no lawyer, but I wonder if this sort of lawsuit is less about how much Milo makes and more about what S&S should have paid him. It could be that the more books he sells, the greater S&S' liability could be if found in breach. Like someone else above said, I think settlements and payouts have less to do with law and more to do with judges and juries and party dispositions.

Blogger Happy LP9 July 07, 2017 4:04 PM  

Milo has a legal basis. Good

7/6 at Micheal Savages, Milo rec'ed a warm mention and even had a commercial airing for his book, Savage even wants to talk with Milo.

I will support and show up for Milo!

I emailed a while back, advised him to sue S/S as I had become the plaintiff in 2 separate matters, sometimes you must file to attain resolution as its best approach via the letter of the law.

Milo's event; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8ZhFTujGc


Local or well known, DTTTM!

Blogger Loyd Jenkins July 07, 2017 4:10 PM  

It is part of making them live by their own rules.

Anonymous m July 07, 2017 4:18 PM  

@63, Cataline:

Ah, the smell of leftover pizza in the morning!!

Blogger Ingot9455 July 07, 2017 4:50 PM  

Since I'm already enjoying the book, the lawsuit can only provide bonus keks - the best keks of all.

Blogger DBSFF July 07, 2017 5:02 PM  

Any thoughts on Milo declaring the Alt-Right dead in Dangerous? I personally think he's conflating a much broader alt-right label with alt-white.

Anonymous SigOther July 07, 2017 5:05 PM  

Breach of contract measure of damages includes anticipated profit from the breached contract ("the benefit of the bargain"), less mitigation efforts. He gets his share of the difference between what s&s would've sold and what he'd does sell, plus out of pocket costs of covering the breach (interest, costs of arranging new publishing, etc). I am sure they have a reputational harm/trade libel claim thrown in to trigger general commercial insurance coverage.

Settlements are primarily a calculus of expected or possible verdict values, with accounting for risk, work/difficulty in proving elements, and recovery time and difficulty. Minor consideration is also given to pr damage or egos, venue/expected jury bias, and skill/funding of counsel.

Also, "lawfare" doesn't include this situation. It's a breach of contract for goodness sake. If George Soros runs over Ann Coulter's foot with a car and she Sue's, it's just a p.i. suit, not lawfare.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 5:21 PM  

Possibly not, but even if it WAS lawfare, we wouldn't care.

Blogger Brian Niemeier July 07, 2017 5:24 PM  

@10

Advances are normally paid in thirds: 1/3 on signing. 1/3 on acceptance of the final manuscript, and 1/3 on release on the book.

Recall that MILO was making some last-minute additions to the MS when S&S cancelled the book. Sounds like he was only paid the first 1/3 of the advance, and since they're nonrefundable, he gets to keep it.

OpenID RambleAround July 07, 2017 5:29 PM  

I remember seeing a show (or movie) as a child, where it was discovered that the system had been rigged to immediately move albums that were titled with the proper format (enough words and commas in the name etc) to the top of the charts... I saw this as a child, and forget the exact context, but this article brings that to mind. Point being, tho, that I bet these systems have been rigged much longer than what is recently coming to light

OpenID RambleAround July 07, 2017 5:32 PM  

Apologies, my comment @77 was meant for the previous post

Blogger Basil Makedon July 07, 2017 5:43 PM  

@62

Technically yes, the pathway of information matters.

If Milo's attorney gives him information that is "Attorneys' Eyes Only" then that would be bad for the attorney. Sanctions.

If Milo gives out information that is "Confidential" then that would be bad for him. Many Protective Orders create those two tiers of protected information.

On the other hand, if the information became published through no fault of the attorney or Milo then it's free game, very difficult (most likely impossible) to claw back.

Judges don't typically like Protective Orders like this, but they like people disobeying their orders even less.

Anonymous Avalanche July 07, 2017 6:08 PM  

@21 "I predict a quick and substantial settlement..."

It's only a settlement IF MILO ACCEPTS IT!

Anonymous Rather, Not July 07, 2017 6:12 PM  

What is interesting, is that while the suit is "only" for $10mm, if they really, really want and need to settle, Milo could refuse to settle for anything less than $10mm + $Y to publicly prove they desperately need to avoid discovery. Sue them for $10mm, then settle for $15mm sends one heck of a message.

Blogger tuberman July 07, 2017 6:12 PM  

Is there any taxes on lawsuit settlements? I think not, but not quite sure.

Blogger tuberman July 07, 2017 6:20 PM  

Yes, destroy as many converged companies as possible, as they never stop being more converged. The new companies need object lessons to never go that way. Mainstream publishing companies have been converged for decades, yet they still get more extreme.

Blogger tuberman July 07, 2017 6:26 PM  

22. basementhomebrewer

"You are confusing us with Cucks. We don't play the "rules for us but not our enemies game". Anything you put into play is a valid tactic for us to use in kind. Think about that long and hard before you degenerate into violence against us."

Good old reactive defense! Use your opponents choices against them, then hit back twice as hard. Gotta love it.

Anonymous Avalanche July 07, 2017 6:35 PM  

#73 "Any thoughts on Milo declaring the Alt-Right dead in Dangerous? I personally think he's conflating a much broader alt-right label with alt-white."

I've been wincing as I read his book. I had thought better (or maybe it's BELIEVED better) of Milo's positions. I'm only in, like, chapter 5? Maybe 6? And he's seeming like a typical jew-boy after abandoning his Alt Right mates for his tribe (and his alleged lovers)! His book does not match his speeches (and I've watched a boatload of them).

He's still the wildly intelligent, well-educated, writer/'speaker' he has been as long as I have been watching him, but now there's a lot more -- or maybe a lot more open? -- "racism is bad, m'kay?"; "don't be anti-semitic"; "we're just children playing at annoying people"; than he seemed in his college speeches. (Albeit, his and Allum's article also worked pretty hard to 'make light' of the Alt Righters.)

I had thought (and don't know if I'm right or wrong) that under his flightiness and flamboyance, there WAS a solid commitment to, say, free speech, but now he only wants free speech that does NOT include anything (?) racial and especially not anti-semitic! I guess I'm feeling disappointed in him through his writing... I wanted a stronger stance to protect and save White Western civilization, and I don't really see it yet in his book.

I'll keep going though, I have slight hope.



Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 6:43 PM  

73. Blogger DBSFF July 07, 2017 5:02 PM
Any thoughts on Milo declaring the Alt-Right dead in Dangerous?


someone in the Dollar Store was telling me the same thing the other day

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 6:58 PM  

We are aware that Milo has chosen to go down this path.

Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 6:59 PM  

OT: another new Alt-Right crowdfunding platform. Claim they will only take 5% after whatever Visa or PayPal takes.

https://rootbocks.com/

Blogger JACIII July 07, 2017 7:20 PM  

Soon enough we will start utilizing historically valid tactics. Helicopter rides!

Blogger Lovekraft July 07, 2017 7:26 PM  

Granted, Maher set a trap, but Milo walked right into it. The result was likely what S & S justified to break the contract.

Even now, I have no idea whether Milo backtracked on the pedo comments or not. Anyone?

Anonymous GithYankee July 07, 2017 7:37 PM  

I wish Milo the best in his lawsuit, however there was a point where he basically said it was okay to punch Richard Spencer (if you have to punch someone it may as well be him, or some such nonsense). At that point I stopped consuming his media because I have a goyish aversion to hypocrisy.
His lectures were second to none in stirring up shitlibs. I wish he hadn't gone down the alt-right slapfight path, even if it wasn't his fault.

Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 7:51 PM  

90. Blogger Lovekraft July 07, 2017 7:26 PM
Granted, Maher set a trap, but Milo walked right into it


on that show Milo acted like he thought Maher was his friend and might save him from the angry dudes on the other side of the table but i dont see where Maher was his friend at all

Anonymous rws July 07, 2017 8:01 PM  

@92 I suspect that in that case Milo did not understand that the leftist card is more powerful than the gay card.

Blogger Stilicho July 07, 2017 8:05 PM  

Not to mention the fact that S&S would have to publicly take the position that Milo made more money by self-publishing.

Blogger tz July 07, 2017 8:32 PM  

Milo with yarmulked midgets as Shapiro - I almost wish I was there. Now if it was the cartoon chicken hawk wearing one...

I know there will be backlash.
And that Milo will suggest a debate.
And Shapiro will bravely run away.
And #NeverTrump will justify it.

Side note - NR is praising Trump's Poland speech. They still need to die, but I can see they can't keep the #NT narrative.

Blogger VD July 07, 2017 9:10 PM  

Any thoughts on Milo declaring the Alt-Right dead in Dangerous?

Yawn. They used to declare #GamerGate dead every five minutes. BFD. We're still around and Gawker isn't.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Communists murdered +100 Million trying to genocide the Bourgeois. suffering a Marxist to live is a Crime Against Humanity ) July 07, 2017 9:38 PM  

Markku July 07, 2017 1:11 PM
I know what it is, and it IS juicy.



For where two or three are gathered together in the service of secret knowledge, they make a coven in the midst of them.


more seriously, whatever was conveyed between the two companies will have to be in document form to be seriously at risk from discovery.

verbal conversations will simply be denied. or claim that they were talking about their grandkids or something.

OpenID aew51183 July 07, 2017 9:58 PM  

Let's be honest VD

Milo is already pretty wealthy. He considers salacious gossip and deep, disgusting secrets more valuable than money. I could see him absolutely refusing settlement offers to go after discovery explicitly based upon the hypothesis you posit.

Blogger slarrow July 07, 2017 10:08 PM  

Meh, the alt-right that Milo is declaring dead is the alt-white, or possibly the alt-retard. It's largely a branding comment, not a substantive analysis of historical trends (indeed, he suggests the underlying issues have traction and will likely gain more.) Not that big a deal.

I did just read the part where he mentions "Vox Day, sci-fi's leading right-wing iconoclast". Fair description, that.

Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 10:19 PM  

Meh, the alt-right that Milo is declaring dead is the alt-white, or possibly the alt-retard.

except its not. Daily Stormer seems to be gaining steam again as far the forums anyway, not sure about their frontpage, which last i heard has about 10x the views that the forum does

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 07, 2017 10:20 PM  

As a lawyer *and* a Milo fan, I suggest leaks plus settlement.

To Encourage The Others.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 07, 2017 11:09 PM  

there were conversations between S&S and Amazon concerning Milo and his book that neither company will want to be made public via discovery.

Just to highlight the danger of hiring SJWs, it's entirely possible for Amazon to have a strict corporate policy against such shenanigans and yet still have an SJW somewhere with a middling level of authority enthusiastically join in behavior that would be embarrasing and perhaps illegal. I'm still not sure if the Confederate Flag flap a while back was endorsed by Corporate leadership or just some idiot SJW doing their thing.

But either way, the damage accrues to the company. If you don't want to get exposed to liabilities like this, don't hire SJWs.

Blogger Kristophr July 07, 2017 11:21 PM  

I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?

Could it be that you guys are biased and want to retain your special privileges?


It looks like a shill does not understand what the difference is between conservatives and the alt-right.

Hint: We will sue your ass, and we will doxx you to your boss and get you fired.

We will attack tooth and claw, and we like mud wrassling with leftist pigs.

We Don't Care.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 11:25 PM  

To SJWs and cucks: It seems you're having some trouble in dealing with these changes. Living with these changes.

Blogger Kristophr July 07, 2017 11:26 PM  

But either way, the damage accrues to the company. If you don't want to get exposed to liabilities like this, don't hire SJWs.

You are way too selective. Get a copy of your county voter's list, and start firing Democrats as well.

Buy a copy of Tom Baugh's Starving the Monkeys as a guide for safely firing Democrats.

Blogger Koanic July 07, 2017 11:38 PM  

I must agree that lawfare is morally inappropriate, gentlemen. Allow me to adjust my bowtie and open my Bible:

"And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour."

Slaying is one thing, suing is quite another. Remember, if we descend to the level of lawyers, then we are no better than the Democrats.

Blogger Kristophr July 07, 2017 11:40 PM  

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Blogger Koanic July 07, 2017 11:41 PM  

It was a joke.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 11:42 PM  

He's being sarcastic, Kristophr. God has already told his people to kill their families. But lawfare is out of the question?

Blogger Kristophr July 07, 2017 11:43 PM  

Deleted. Sorry, my "humor" and sarcasm circuits are a bit aspy.

I'd like to slay them all, but I don't think we are there yet. Suing them is still fun.

Blogger Markku July 07, 2017 11:46 PM  

Actually, I take that back. ALL the sons of Levi participated in the slaughter. Hence, they can't have killed their actual literal families, but it referred to Israel as their spiritual "brothers".

Blogger Koanic July 07, 2017 11:52 PM  

I mean, I don't know God's position on lawyers, but maybe it's not a coincidence that the main character who suffered second most in the Bible (after Job) is Paul.

Blogger Junior July 08, 2017 1:06 AM  

So Breitbart dismisses Milo for manboy love remarks then hawks his book. There's a moral here somewhere. No, wait. There isn't.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy July 08, 2017 2:05 AM  

Percy Grier wrote:I thought alt righters were against snowflakes using lawfare to get their way?
The Alt-Right is always against the snowflakes. The Alt-Right thinks lawfare will usually not work for them as a tactic because the courts are crooked; this is one case where it will work, because the Left did something too obviously illegal for the courts to protect from punishment.

Blogger Vernon July 08, 2017 3:40 AM  

Remember the saying, "if you're ever caught in a fair fight, your tactics suck."

Blogger Happy LP9 July 08, 2017 4:00 AM  

Place S and S out of business except nothing less than 10m in damages, god bless Milo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO8ZhFTujGc&t=3s

He just kicked arse!


Milo, get everything you can from this suit!

Blogger wreckage July 08, 2017 6:39 AM  

I opened my bible to a random page, and it said:

3; Alt Right gonna win. Not gonna lose.

Surely this is a sign!

Anonymous BBGKB July 08, 2017 8:28 AM  

Just hideously embarrassing. Consider the fashionable Left wing circles the executives from both companies like to run

"Oy Vey MILO only has 5 gay nigger boyfriends and they are light skinned articulate blacks."

chapter 5? Maybe 6? And he's seeming like a typical jew-boy after abandoning his Alt Right mates for his tribe (and his alleged lovers

I have suspected that he might have come across my BGS Services posting and decided to run with it while claiming black boyfriends as a shield. The only person I know he slept with was a white guy that picked him up at gammergate DC

Milo is already pretty wealthy. He considers salacious gossip and deep, disgusting secrets more valuable than money

He goes thru money pretty quickly. I was surprised he posted a clip from a liposuction, but he might be claiming it as a business expense.

Blogger wreckage July 08, 2017 8:34 AM  

@4, Supreme Dark Lord, indeed!

Blogger Ben Sanderson July 08, 2017 8:47 AM  

Next guy to flame out and never be heard again will be Thernovitch. His brand won't last to 2020.

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 08, 2017 10:01 AM  

Ben Sanderson wrote:Next guy to flame out and never be heard again will be Thernovitch. His brand won't last to 2020.

Oh Ben.
You done made EVERYONE Hoppin Mad!

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