Vox Popoli: Surrender or antisemite

The Israeli ambassador in Budapest has called on the Hungarian government to end its campaign against Jewish billionaire George Soros, which he claims is stoking antisemitic sentiment.

The Hungarian government has recently rolled out a nationwide billboard campaign, urging Hungarians to stand firm against the ruinous influence of the Jewish financial speculator.

George Soros is well known for his involvement in the open borders campaign, with his Open Society organisation essentially acting as a front for the criminal people smugglers bringing third world migrants to Europe.

What is lesser known however, is the extent to which Soros is using his ‘soft power’ to influence civil society.

The Central European University in Budapest was founded and bankrolled by the Jewish billionaire, and has attempted to exert its influence against Viktor Orbán’s popular government in loosely veiled retaliation for recent legal measures against the university.

In recent months Hungary has seen protests by students carrying the Soros message against the potential closure of the university, with some fearing that this could be the beginning of another ‘colour revolution’.

Soros’ Open Society organisation has also worked tirelessly behind the scenes against the Hungarian government’s opposition to illegal immigration, despite the fact that 98.5% of Hungarians rejected illegal migrant quotas in a referendum just last year.

Yet despite the validity of the Hungarian government’s complaints against George Soros, it is apparently antisemitic to speak out.

Hungary’s largest Jewish organisation Mazsihisz has also called for the government to end its campaign, also on the basis that it is ‘antisemitic’.

This is precisely why I don't give an airborne rodent's fornication about it when people cry antisemitism or Holocaust anymore. It's no different than when Zoe Quinn or Anita Sarkeesian cry sexual harassment and death threats; the accusations are just a rhetorical means of attempting to shut down legitimate and well-merited criticism. There is simply no substance to them.

If you're going to call me a Nazi, or a Fascist, or an antisemite, or a Holocaust denier, or a rape apologist, or an Alien Autopsy denier, or a racist sexist transgenderphobe, or an anthropogenic global warming denier, or whatever vituperative label you can concoct because I disagree with your belief that one world government under anyone but Jesus Christ is desirable, then I do not give so much as a single electron for your opinion.

The undeniable fact is that most people have a very good reason to hate certain individuals and what those individuals have done to their nations as well as the rest of Mankind. Their creed and ethnicity is irrelevant. If you don't hate what Immanuel Celler did to the USA, you're objectively anti-American. And if you don't hate what George Soros has done to European countries from the UK to Hungary, you're either evil yourself or you are simply unaware of the unmitigated wickedness of his globe-spanning Evil Society. And if you don't hate these creeps who believe God has chosen them to enslave the rest of humanity, well, you're clearly suffering from a severe lack of self-esteem.

Labels: conspiracy, rhetoric, Zion

252 Comments:

Icicle July 10, 2017 4:25 AM: or an Alien Autopsy denier

Wake up sheep!
Rocklea July 10, 2017 4:43 AM: "The Central European University in Budapest was founded and bankrolled by the Jewish billionaire, and has attempted to exert its influence against Viktor Orbán’s popular government in loosely veiled retaliation for recent legal measures against the university."

Where are all the Hungarian arsonists? Their oppression should not be tolerated, let them express themselves freely. A place to burn things, be themselves, throw off the shackles of structural oppression embodied in this uncivic institution of unlearning.
Commenting July 10, 2017 4:50 AM: Well, if it's antisemetic to go against Soros, then clearly there is nothing worth being proud of to support any sole Jewish cause. As in something that only benefits them.

Soros is more a parasite on society with what he's been doing, so I feel that the proper term would be anti-parasite.

I may be leaning agnostic, but crap like this makes me think that whatever they're going on is clearly not the right religion. Muslims sure as hell have got it wrong, though.
LurkingPuppy July 10, 2017 4:53 AM: Israeli ambassador sides with confessed Nazi war criminal who profited by stealing gold, art, and other valuables from Jewish victims of the Holocaust. Why does Israel support Nazis?
Koanic July 10, 2017 4:53 AM: Did you know that Soros is the same spelled backwards, and Soros looks the same turned inside out?
Markku July 10, 2017 5:09 AM: So, they're all the same team then.
John VI July 10, 2017 5:10 AM: I require proof of that.

No less than pre and post op pictures.
Looking Glass July 10, 2017 5:31 AM: I know you can never expect Leftists to think through the logical results to their actions, but it does explain the whole "Muh, Holocaust!" stuff. If disagreeing with a Jew makes you an "anti-semite", you can't really be surprised if someone gets the bright idea to fire up the ovens again.

You eventually create your own self-fulfilling prophecies, but expecting a Jew to actually interact with Proverbs is apparently too much.
Bb July 10, 2017 5:41 AM: ----
Brain drain damaging Hungarian economy - The Budapest Beacon

It has been long known that a brain drain is causing serious damage to the Hungarian economy, but new data shows the situation is graver than anyone previously believed, writes financial daily Világgazdaság,

According to the Hungarian Central Statistical Office (Központi Statisztikai Hivatal – KSH), people leaving Hungary are mostly young, highly educated and single.
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More than 370,000 Hungarians would leave Hungary to become migrants

Hungary stands to lose 4% of its total population to out-migration within the next two to three years, which is in addition to a half million Hungarians who have already migrated in the last seven to ten years.

53% of all Hungarian secondary school and college or university students are seriously considering emigration from Hungary.
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So looks like a govt of right-wing cranks are keeping the blood pure while the ambitious and creative move to other countries.

Their pop'n is decreasing. Isn't this what right-wing cranks call "genocide"?

(At this rate, in a few years Hungarians might decide they'll be better off by offering the presidency to the ex-pat... George Soros.)

On top of this, the emigrating Hungarians are moving *to* countries full of "no go zones" and "rapefugees".

When reality bumps against ideology, ideologues ignore reality.
Sillon Bono July 10, 2017 5:41 AM: Alien Autopsy denier

Why VD? Why?

Top kek.
Sillon Bono July 10, 2017 5:43 AM: @9 Yes, I agree with you, and the solution is to import lots of low IQ brown and black people from Africa.

Clap, clap, clap, clap.
Lovekraft July 10, 2017 5:45 AM: What responsibility is Soros taking for his actions that undoubtedly led to Hungary taking this action?

This is the question the alt-right demands an answer to before we give these smears any weight.
Shut up rabbit July 10, 2017 5:47 AM: @9 What a load of unsubstantiated bollocks
"Something happening and i know why because feelz..."

There's as much evidence that the ones leaving are going for the welfare handouts in other Schengen gulags and the talented people are staying behind to rebuild Hungary after the EU looting.

Come back when you've got an argument.
VD July 10, 2017 5:57 AM: According to the Hungarian Central Statistical Office (Központi Statisztikai Hivatal – KSH), people leaving Hungary are mostly young, highly educated and single.

In other words, the kind of people who don't have children and will be evolutionary dead ends anyhow.

Let them leave. And no, that's not genocide, that's economics, free trade, and labor mobility.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 6:11 AM: The story struck me as a little "off" as reported. Not because Jews aren't capable of extreme stupidity and insular thinking, or malevolence, but certain details didn't add up.

Sure enough, there was quite a bit more than what Identity Evropa reported.

Namely, that the Israeli Foreign Ministry rebuked the ambassador for his imbecilic statements, and clarified that they hate Soros, too. This apparently came straight from Netanyahu himself.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-condemns-both-hungarian-anti-semitism-and-its-target-george-soros/

Which makes sense, since one of Soros' goals is the destruction of Israel through NGOs.

So yes, the ambassador is either an extreme virtue-signaling idiot or a Western-hating, evil maniac, but it's interesting how it always seems to reflect upon the Jews more than similar/worse comments and actions by May and Corbyn, actual elected leaders, reflect upon the Brits and their motivations, huh? Or Macron/Hollande reflect upon the French.

Incidentally, I've always found Vox's fixation on Emanuel Celler strange.

He is no doubt an odious scoundrel, but how can a single representative possibly get a disastrous bill like that pushed through?

President Lyndon Baines Johnson was a huge champion of the Immigration Act and signed it into law. It fit perfectly within his larger globalist philosophy and the expansion of the federal government.

The previous President, JFK, was a huge proponent of opening the floodgates, too, and had it in mind prior to his assassination.

Senator Philip Hart, a higher-ranking member of Congress whose name is also on the bill, fought for immigration just as doggedly, and was actually the first to introduce it in either house of Congress. What about the much more powerful Senator Ted Kennedy championing it? Or the few hundred Congressman of both parties who voted for it?

So why does Celler get the primary blame?
Bb July 10, 2017 6:12 AM: I was once "young, highly educated and single", and I avoided becoming an "evolutionary dead end".

I believe Thomas Beale was once "young, highly educated and single", and similarly avoided becoming an "evolutionary dead end".

Think this a pattern? Or just two outliers?
Snidely Whiplash July 10, 2017 6:16 AM: The point, @SteelPalm, is that Jews always reflexively stick up for Jews.
As you are doing here.
Shut up rabbit July 10, 2017 6:19 AM: How many boastful gamma tells in one, small comment, B flat?
A pattern? Or just a tedious outsider?
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 6:21 AM: @17

Not at all. I have a very low regard for Israel's current government (Netanyahu is a shrewder, but equally counterproductive version of GW Bush) and an even lower opinion of American Jews in general.

Nevertheless, I imagine even the most pessimistic Brit would defend his people if I claimed all Brits were globalist, self-hating, Muslim-loving, Christian-despising, sodomite, cuck weaklings on the basis of May or Corbyn.
Rocklea July 10, 2017 6:21 AM: "So looks like a govt of right-wing cranks are keeping the blood pure while the ambitious and creative move to other countries."

Long before Reconquista 2.0 kicks off, the Schengen agreement will collapse and Hungarian nationals will be repatriated. It will not be fun to be "other" in a foreign land.
Lazarus July 10, 2017 6:22 AM: From what I gather, the Israeli Ambassador did not say the Billboard campaign was anti-Jew, but some graffiti began to appear after the campaign began that was judged anti-Jew. The assumption being that nasty bad feels were being "stirred up".

The anti-Jew stuff could just have easily been hoaxes by Soros people to get the campaign stopped.

The Israel.gov issued a clarification on the Ambassador's statement, because they have the same problems with the evil troll:

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/232225

A senior official in Israel's Foreign Ministry explained on Sunday that “Israel condemns every expression of anti-Semitism in every country and alongside Jewish communities everywhere in dealing with this hatred. This was the sole purpose of the statement by the Israeli ambassador to Hungary.”

The official clarified that Soros himself deserves harsh criticism. The Jewish billionaire has come under fire for his support for anti-Israel leftist groups.

"Under no circumstances was there a statement aimed at de-legitimizing criticism of George Soros, who continues to undermine the democratically elected governments of Israel by funding organizations that defame the Jewish state and seek to deprive it of the right to defend itself," the official said.

Anyway, Bibi is going to visit Viktor on July 18th. They can have tea and bagels and sort it all out.
Desillusionerad July 10, 2017 6:26 AM: Celler presumably gets the blame for the same reason Hitler gets the blame for the holocaust.
People need focal points.
Stilicho July 10, 2017 6:29 AM: @steelpalm plenty of blame to go around, but Cellar was the prime mover behind it for most of his career; it was his raison d'etre.
Oaty Beekeeper July 10, 2017 6:37 AM: [OT] SJWAL got a shout out on the No Agenda show - it's #2 on the list of books on Adam Curry's kindle!

around the 32 min mark in Episode 943
VD July 10, 2017 6:39 AM: So yes, the ambassador is either an extreme virtue-signaling idiot or a Western-hating, evil maniac, but it's interesting how it always seems to reflect upon the Jews more than similar/worse comments and actions by May and Corbyn, actual elected leaders, reflect upon the Brits and their motivations, huh? Or Macron/Hollande reflect upon the French.

Nice try to jujitsu the blame, SteelPalm. There is nothing "interesting" about it. May, Corbyn, Macron, and Hollande all get criticized every single day without ANYONE trying to shut down that criticism as anti-Britishism or anti-Frenchism. You Jews are LUDICROUSLY defensive of every single Jew, no matter what they do. And that behavior has become very counterproductive.

Do you not grasp that you're proving the very thing you're trying to deny? You aren't contacting the ambassador telling him to stop being such a jackass, you're here trying to minimize the damage he has caused to your people. And, in doing so, accomplishing the opposite.

So why does Celler get the primary blame?

Because Celler was the driving force and worked for it for 40 years. He was working to destroy the 1924 Act before Ted Kennedy was even born. There is absolutely no question that the US Jewish organizations were primarily responsible for the 1965 Naturalization Act and the subsequent destruction of US demographics. They believed, wrongly, that it was good for the Jews then. You apparently believe it is bad for the Jews now. I tend to agree, but that doesn't change what happened or who was responsible.

Celler was also the author of the 1946 Luce-Celler Act that "allowed Filipino Americans and Indian Americans to naturalize and become United States citizens. Indian Americans had not been allowed to naturalize since United States v. Bhagat Singh Thind in 1923, which this effectively reversed. Upon becoming citizens, the new Americans could own homes and farmland, and petition for family from their nation of birth."

He was an evil man deeply committed to the demographic destruction of the United States. You cannot reasonably pretend otherwise. Deal with it. History does not change dependent upon whether its lessons are good for the Jews or not.

I don't blame you for Celler or his actions. But I do note your inclination to defend him and wonder why you continue to do so.
VD July 10, 2017 6:43 AM: I imagine even the most pessimistic Brit would defend his people if I claimed all Brits were globalist, self-hating, Muslim-loving, Christian-despising, sodomite, cuck weaklings on the basis of May or Corbyn.

I think they would laugh at you, actually. Because it's not a coherent attack, it would be a weird assertion by a crazy person. Who is saying that about Jews? Seriously, who here do you think is genuinely capable of confusing Martin van Creveld with George Soros?

You're fighting a demon of your own imagination.
Rocklea July 10, 2017 6:48 AM: Martin van Creveld as Literally Hitler, I do hope that is the title of any second edition.
VD July 10, 2017 6:49 AM: That isn't to say the Irish don't merit their share of the blame.

During the legislation of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 Feighan insisted that "family unification" should take priority in immigration policy over "employability", on the premise that such a weighting would maintain the existing ethnic profile of the country. That change instead resulted in chain migration dominating the subsequent patterns of immigration to the United States and consequently a more ethnically diverse population.

I wonder if he was a third-generation immigrant too.
ZhukovG July 10, 2017 6:51 AM: @Steelpalm: This is not a 'Jews R Bad, M'kay' post. This post is about Soros, who is bad, and the Israeli Ambassador to Hungary who is using his official position, and thereby implicating the State of Israel in his activities, to pressure the Hungarian Government.

We are also observing the fact that when 'Bad Jews' are thwarted they scream 'Holocaust' or 'Anti-Semite'.

This isn't about you or about all Jews. But you tend to react as though it is.

We are quite aware that the number of 'Bad Gentiles' vastly outnumber the 'Bad Jews', however that does not give either group a pass.

'Come the Revolution', as they say, I am sure that what happens to 'Bad Jews' will pale by comparison to what happens to 'Bad Gentiles'.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 6:55 AM: @25 I don't know how I'm being "defensive", let alone "ludicrously" so, of people I consider awful villains or dangerous idiots that are better off publicly executed in Soros' case, or fired and deported, in the ambassador's case.

As for Celler, again, you listed a bunch of statements I'm aware of or agree with. The disconnect is with claiming that a single man with a relatively low position in government, no matter how determined or evil, can push through a conspiracy without tremendous aid by fellow villains.

It's the equivalent of blaming Houston Stewart Chamberlain for Nazism.

The idea itself is poisonous, and one that attracted far more powerful and capable proponents.
VD July 10, 2017 7:03 AM: The disconnect is with claiming that a single man with a relatively low position in government, no matter how determined or evil, can push through a conspiracy without tremendous aid by fellow villains.

There is no disconnect. The man devoted his life to it, had powerful allies in multiple Jewish organizations helping him, had been in Congress for 42 years by that point, and was the senior member of the House of Representatives. To claim that he had "a relatively low position in government" is ABSOLUTELY ludicrous. I knew Vin Weber who was in Congress for 12 years, and I can tell you that a Congressman with seniority is an extremely powerful and influential figure.

It's the equivalent of blaming Houston Stewart Chamberlain for Nazism.

No, it's more akin to blaming Hitler for the Holocaust.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:07 AM: No, it's more akin to blaming Hitler for the Holocaust.

I strongly disagree with that, too. Solely or even primarily blaming Hitler is inaccurate.
Resident Moron™ July 10, 2017 7:07 AM: I've developed one response for those who cry "antisemite!", for the "never again!" hypocrites who are busily recreating a life sized replica of the Warsaw Ghetto in Gaza, but playing the opposite role this time;

You're not special.

F**k you, you're not special.

To hell with your hasbara, your Anne Frank squealers, your ADL, your multiculti cult of death;

You're not special.

You're relentlessly tediously monotonously ordinary.

You're not special.

They hate it so it works for me.
Stilicho July 10, 2017 7:14 AM: Oh ffs, steelpalm, next you'll be telling us that we shouldn't blame Obama for Obamacare. You don't even realize how YOU are a prime example of that which you decry in your defense of Celler. "Don't blame the Jews involved because they had help!" is a loser on multiple levels and will only reinforce a single idea in peoples' minds: Every. Single. Time.
Josh (the gayest thing here) July 10, 2017 7:14 AM: I strongly disagree with that, too. Solely or even primarily blaming Hitler is inaccurate.

Woke Jew Claims Hitler Did Nothing Wrong
VD July 10, 2017 7:14 AM: SJWAL got a shout out on the No Agenda show - it's #2 on the list of books on Adam Curry's kindle!

Cool, thanks for letting me know.
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 7:16 AM: Why is it so hard to admit that Celler is the motive force behind the 1965 Naturalization Act?

The record seems clear enough. Did he have help? Sure. Would it have gotten passed without his instrumentality? Highly unlikely.

If we cannot assign it to him, to whom can we assign it?
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 7:24 AM: And it wasn't some secret conspiracy. The Hart-Celler Act was something of a triumph for Celler; the culmination of a lifetime of advocating for erasing national origin as a criteria for consideration for purposes of immigration.
Zionist Knight July 10, 2017 7:25 AM: Like most anti-semites, your obsessions make you ask the wrong question. The right question is: Do I stand with Israel? If you do not, then you are facing God's curse/. Pure and simple, right out of the Bible.

I personally do not like Soros or his politics but... I stand with Israel. I stand with God's Chosen People... because I have FAITH in God's plan.

Jonah Goldberg is correct.The more you attack the Jewish people, the more Leftist you alt-righters become.
VD July 10, 2017 7:30 AM: I personally do not like Soros or his politics but... I stand with Israel. I stand with God's Chosen People... because I have FAITH in God's plan.

No one asked you if you stand with Israel. But I will ask you this: do you stand with George Soros?

Jonah Goldberg is correct.The more you attack the Jewish people, the more Leftist you alt-righters become.

We'll go all the way to the Left if that is what is required to preserve Western civilization. Your rhetoric has no chile, cucky.
Athor Pel July 10, 2017 7:30 AM: "39. Anonymous Zionist Knight July 10, 2017 7:25 AM
Like most anti-semites, your obsessions make you ask the wrong question. The right question is: Do I stand with Israel? If you do not, then you are facing God's curse/. Pure and simple, right out of the Bible.

I personally do not like Soros or his politics but... I stand with Israel. I stand with God's Chosen People... because I have FAITH in God's plan.

Jonah Goldberg is correct.The more you attack the Jewish people, the more Leftist you alt-righters become.
"

The Stupid is strong in you.
SirGroggy July 10, 2017 7:35 AM: It reminds me of something which the French alt-right figure Guillaume Faye said, which is that the Jews are good at tactics but poor at strategy.

They are over-active in doing things which are in their short-term self-interest but in the long term will hurt them.

One prime example is in agitating for Europe to be friendly to outsiders and convince the Europeans that diversity is our greatest strength.

But the long-term result is an influx of millions of Muslims which
a) grows the alt-right, and
b) makes it increasingly dangerous for the Jews who are hated by none more so than the Muslims

hence hastening their jumping ship to Israel. Hence a failed strategy in the long term.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:37 AM: Vox explained his reasoning well in his last reply. I don't fully agree, but I can respect him pointing to Celler's seniority and considerable influence within the House of Representatives, especially based on his personal experience with congressmen.

However, I think the US still passes an Immigration Act if Celler had never been born. Perhaps a few years later, but it would have happened, regardless. There are Cellers, Jewish or gentile, in every country; evil opportunists just looking for an opening. Celler didn't have that opening in the 40s, but he did by the 60s. What caused that opening?

If we cannot assign it to him, to whom can we assign it?

On a sufficiently deep level, that's a complex question. What made the poison of globalism and cultural Marxism so delectable to the ears of so many different peoples?

Incidentally, I agree with Vox that a rejection of Christianity during the 20th century is partly to blame.
basementhomebrewer July 10, 2017 7:39 AM: Lazarus wrote:The anti-Jew stuff could just have easily been hoaxes by Soros people to get the campaign stopped.

This is the crux of the problem. They know they can "victimize" themselves with Nazi grafitti and all the sudden all criticism must stop. The people who claim all these "dog whistles" to racists are really the only people I have seen actually dog whistling. Everytime someone they like is criticized all they have to do is say "he is a jew" and all the sudden jews from all across the globe show up screaming "anti-semitism" and shutting down the conversation. Even now Steelpalm is in this thread claiming NAJALT while taking everyone to task for criticizing jewish figures past and present. "We wouldn't be so effective if it weren't for the goyim aiding us" appears to be his current defense.
VD July 10, 2017 7:40 AM: It reminds me of something which the French alt-right figure Guillaume Faye said, which is that the Jews are good at tactics but poor at strategy.

Perhaps. The strategy is so horrifically bad, and so apparently self-defeating, that it tends to make one wonder if perhaps they simply have very different goals than one can reasonably imagine.
John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project July 10, 2017 7:45 AM: SteelPalm previously exposed himself so ridiculously on the topic of Celler and Vox Day schooled him so remorselessly, I happily enough have the episode bookmarked:

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/01/mailvox-siding-with-obama.html#c9112668032943151094
VD July 10, 2017 7:46 AM: I think the US still passes an Immigration Act if Celler had never been born. Perhaps a few years later, but it would have happened, regardless.

Not a chance in Hell. They still relied upon a tremendous amount of dishonesty to get it through. The Jews were the engine and the Irish were the gasoline. Remember, the whole official line was that this was not going to change the US demographics at all; that's why the idiot WASPs were able to get on board with it.

Look, I understand that you grasp the significance of Jews being held responsible for destroying the United States and you fear the reaction to that once it is widely understood by the public. Why do you think the Elders of Wye have been discussing fleeing the USA since 2006?

And I expect the reaction is probably going to be ugly when it comes. But you're not going to be able to hide or deny what is done. You're just not. And you're not going to be able to plead innocence on behalf of your people either. They did it because they believed, at the time, that it was good for the Jews. It wasn't. But what happened is what happened.

Does that mean that you, a Jew whose grandparents weren't even resident in the USA at the time, are to blame? Of course not! So, don't try to defend the indefensible.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:47 AM: It reminds me of something which the French alt-right figure Guillaume Faye said, which is that the Jews are good at tactics but poor at strategy.

The simpler explanation is that American Jews, who have enjoyed a few generations of a country treating them better than any other country has in history (Israel very much included), have become very soft and weak, including in the head.
John Scalzi Unfinished Asimov Project July 10, 2017 7:49 AM: --well, that was supposed to take us to comment 127:

SteelPalm: "Oh, shut the fuck up, Scott. It's tiresome to see Stormfags blame legislation created by a white, Christian President from Texas, Lyndon Baines Johnson, supported by a cadre of fellow white Christian traitors, entirely on a Jewish lawyer or two they hired to help them."

VD: "That's ridiculous, SteelPalm. Stop leaping to the defense of evil Jews just because they are Jewish. Doing so only makes YOU look like a dishonest, perfidious Jew yourself; it makes precisely the opposite case you hope to make.

The primary architect of the 1965 Immigration Act was not LBJ, or even Ted Kennedy, but Emmanuel Celler, a Jew whose overriding priority was what he felt was good for the Jews. He led the charge against limited immigration for 40 freaking years! The 1965 Immigration Act is absolutely on the Jews in general, and Celler in particular, and you would have to be ludicrously dishonest to deny it. FFS, it's right there on both Infogalactic and Wikipedia!"

--long explanatory text ensues.

SteelPalm, intriguingly, has forgot all of that.
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 7:49 AM: SteelPalm: This presumes that one views Celler as an intentionally evil man. I don't. I think Celler believed that what he was doing would benefit his own people and would benefit the US.

He was wrong but I don't think he was intentionally trying to inflict harm.

He did not view himself and his people as harmful to the United States and extrapolating from this view of himself it would be easy for him to make the reasoned argument that if he is a benefit to his country why not more of his coethnics/coreligionists?

I disagree on the issue of assigning blame being a complex question. It isn't. Celler pushed it until Congress passed it. All have some blame but he has most. No need for complex explanations. Why is cultural marxism delectable: because it is a flattering lie. Who is culpable for it? Those who pushed it and those who adopted it. The more so those who pushed it.
VD July 10, 2017 7:52 AM: I'd forgotten that, actually.

"a single man with a relatively low position in government"
- SteelPalm

1. Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee from 1949 to 1973
2. 39th Dean of the House of Representatives from 1965 to 1973
3. Involved in drafting and passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964, the Naturalization Act of 1965, the Voting Rights Act of 1965, and the Civil Rights Act of 1968

I'm sorry, SteelPalm, but at this point, I don't see how your opinion on the matter can be taken seriously by any objective party.
Nick July 10, 2017 7:55 AM: It is like everyone forgets Jewish duplicity has been reliably documented from Tacitus to Henry Ford.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:55 AM: SteelPalm, intriguingly, has forgot all of that.

I remember that exchange well, especially since I discussed it in more detail with Vox over e-mail. (Who is always very gracious in explaining his views at considerable length there) But the Celler portion was peripheral and we didn't discuss it much, if at all.

Nor was it such a momentous occasion that I have those comments bookmarked and refer back to them six months later, as you have.
Mr.MantraMan July 10, 2017 7:56 AM: The government of Israel is standing up for its expats, and they have a big gorgeous wall. love that wall.
Desdichado July 10, 2017 7:56 AM: SteelPalm wrote:On a sufficiently deep level, that's a complex question. What made the poison of globalism and cultural Marxism so delectable to the ears of so many different peoples?

Decades of propaganda from mostly Jewish run Hollywood, music labels, and ad agencies, and the infiltration of academia by Jewish run Frankfurt school cultural marxists?
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:58 AM: This presumes that one views Celler as an intentionally evil man. I don't. I think Celler believed that what he was doing would benefit his own people and would benefit the US.

He was wrong but I don't think he was intentionally trying to inflict harm.

Possibly, but it ultimately makes no difference. What matters is the results, not the motivation. Dangerous stupidity is every bit as bad, if not worse than evil for that reason.
Handyman July 10, 2017 8:00 AM: "The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."
liberranter July 10, 2017 8:02 AM: SO ... a representative of the Israeli government is using his official position to intercede on behalf of George Soros. Quite revealing, this. I'm going to have to raise this issue with some dispensationalist associates of mine who are deeply deluded into thinking that the State of Israel is the reincarnstion of Biblical Israel. This, among other obvious signs, should give them cause to reconsider their position (but of course won't).
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 8:04 AM: I agree that in the end it doesn't make any difference to the outcome.

But it makes a lot of difference when judging Celler. We have no reason to believe he was hellbent on harming the USA.

We do know he was hellbent on getting the laws changed to erase national origin as a criteria for immigration. Those are two different things.

Motives are important.

Even if having good intentions is not enough to exonerate Celler for the ultimate outcome of what he succeeded in getting passed into law.
SirGroggy July 10, 2017 8:07 AM: The simpler explanation is that American Jews, who have enjoyed a few generations of a country treating them better than any other country has in history (Israel very much included), have become very soft and weak, including in the head.

The Jews are not soft in the head, they are a very high-IQ population.

The point is that they interfere too much in Western politics and the media which leads to long-term resentment and culpability when things go bad.

They would be better served in the long term by doing as Andrew Klavan did or some variation: leave Judaism, perhaps convert to Christianity, abandon a Jewish identity and adopt a national identity - the opposite of Peter Beinart who "never felt more Jewish and less American than when Trump was elected" which is almost like waving a flag of disloyalty.
Ransom Smith July 10, 2017 8:13 AM: by doing as Andrew Klavan did or some variation: leave Judaism, perhaps convert to Christianity,

Good luck convincing them that. Getting a Jew to convert to Christianity is a difficult prospect.

Martin Luther assumed they all would once he had broken away. And when they didn't he went full scale the opposite direction.

One might argue, it's always been my theory,that Jews have always sought to destroy Germany as revenge for Luther's hatred.
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 8:18 AM: The problem with all of this is that Celler and those who came before believed that just because one person of foreign origin, or even a small number of people of foreign origin could be a benefit to a country or at least not a detriment to it, you could take a large group of them and the dynamics would remain absolutely the same. Of course, that is not at all what happens.

As a Foreign Service officer I did my consular time in Egypt. It was uncanny the number of times we would see the same story play out when it came to group dynamics. Girl meets handsome Egyptian guy studying in the US. They get married. Have kids. Everything is hunky dory. Then he takes the family back to Egypt for a visit. And he becomes a completely different creature and decides to stay in Egypt and treat the wife like women are treated in Egypt. She is shocked and horrified and wants to take the kids and leave. This played out with regularity.

I bring it up as an example of how group dynamics and cultural influences shift behavior. These guys really were different when they were not around other Egyptians. But once in Egypt the "real" person came out again.

The same holds true with importing people from foreign countries. One or two are probably not a big deal. But you get a group of them together and they start to revert to the mean. Get enough of them together and you simply recreate the whole culture elsewhere.

And Celler did not see that recreating the European Jewish diaspora in the U.S. was not going to be a good for either group long term.
SteelPalm July 10, 2017 8:20 AM: @60 The Jews are not soft in the head, they are a very high-IQ population.

High IQ is not everything. It can even be destructive when housed within a weak or rotten spirit. To see this in another example, consider the white students and professors at Harvard. Very high-IQ, yet very supportive of the Social Justice and anti-white Narrative that will entail their own doom.

So it is with American Jews. They've had it very easy for multiple generations and sad to say, it's had a deleterious effect. Contrast this with Israeli Jews, who think and behave differently.

They would be better served in the long term by doing as Andrew Klavan did or some variation: leave Judaism, perhaps convert to Christianity, abandon a Jewish identity and adopt a national identity - the opposite of Peter Beinart who "never felt more Jewish and less American than when Trump was elected" which is almost like waving a flag of disloyalty.

This has been tried by Jews in many European countries and hasn't worked.
FrankNorman July 10, 2017 8:22 AM: Perhaps. The strategy is so horrifically bad, and so apparently self-defeating, that it tends to make one wonder if perhaps they simply have very different goals than one can reasonably imagine.

Have you seen this bit of satire? http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jew
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 8:25 AM: Assimilation is not an easy long term strategy. Separate nations are a much better one.

As someone who has spent a lot of time living as a stranger in strange lands it is clear that it is very tough to assimilate.

No matter how hard you try you are not going to be able to. Your children will do better but they will still be torn between two worlds. Their children will have it easier. By the fourth generation you are getting closer. But you are probably not there yet.

And the more a country relies on "blood and soil" nationalism the harder it is going to be. Most families will not make the jump. Even after five or six generations there will still be questions.

How much better for most to remain at home amid their own nation.
Johnny July 10, 2017 8:29 AM: Sherwood family wrote:But you get a group of them together and they start to revert to the mean.

Where I live there are almost no blacks and on the rare occasion I encounter one they are often remarkably accommodating. I don't think it is a calculated act. Being around lots of whites makes the black guy feel vulnerable, and that turns into a kind of emotional submission.
VD July 10, 2017 8:30 AM: They would be better served in the long term by doing as Andrew Klavan did or some variation.

No, they would be better served by listening to the Prime Minister of their nation and returning to their homeland.

Israel can be a great ally to the nations of the West. But it cannot fully do so while the diasporans refuse to enter the Land of Milk and Honey and insist on interfering in the affairs of other nations.
Sillon Bono July 10, 2017 8:31 AM: SteelPalm wrote:
On a sufficiently deep level, that's a complex question. What made the poison of globalism and cultural Marxism so delectable to the ears of so many different peoples?

On a very basic level the Jews, the Jews and their MSM propaganda machine.

I ask who were pushing the communist agenda during the cold war in western countries?

At a very high-level the always-present ignorance of a large percentage of Gentiles for whom their reason d'etre is to fight injustice whether its real or perceived and are very easily manipulated into supporting any "good cause".

A very clear example is the modern push for transgender degeneracy.
Mr.MantraMan July 10, 2017 8:33 AM: That smell, that is the corpse of the Blank Slate Theory putrifying.
Ben Cohen July 10, 2017 8:34 AM: George Soros needs to be arrested for his crimes.
Bz July 10, 2017 8:34 AM: It's kind of funny, in its way, to read comments about 'wait, wait, everyone, he might have had good intentions!' right below an article on the pointed finger of anti-semitism.
Sherwood family July 10, 2017 8:34 AM: I have seen it with a number of different groups. Social pressure is real, even when people do not perceive it. You stick a white American dude in the middle of a bunch of Egyptians and he is going to try to be more accommodating and to not do things that make him stick out. He will be less "American". You stick that same guy in the middle of a group of his fellow Americans and he gets more comfortable and more "himself".

The funny thing to watch is people who do not have a group of their own someplace and see who they glom on to and who makes them feel closest to "home".

Language will determine a lot of it. Common language pushes people who otherwise would not be together together.

It is always hilarious to see a bunch of Japanese expats hanging around with the Americans because they have more in common than the people of the host nation they are both in. Even though in reality Japanese and Americans might as well be from different planets when it comes to their regular cultural habits.
Josh (the gayest thing here) July 10, 2017 8:38 AM: Israel can be a great ally to the nations of the West. But it cannot fully do so while the diasporans refuse to enter the Land of Milk and Honey and insist on interfering in the affairs of other nations.

Perhaps the option of future emigration to Israel enables worse behavior, like with banks and the option of a future bailout.
Athor Pel July 10, 2017 8:40 AM: "58. Blogger liberranter July 10, 2017 8:02 AM
SO ... a representative of the Israeli government is using his official position to intercede on behalf of George Soros. Quite revealing, this. I'm going to have to raise this issue with some dispensationalist associates of mine who are deeply deluded into thinking that the State of Israel is the reincarnstion of Biblical Israel. This, among other obvious signs, should give them cause to reconsider their position (but of course won't).
"

Point out the following to your associates.

Whenever someone says that America needs to stand beside Israel in their hour of need I point to the following verses.

"Isaiah 31
1 Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help
And rely on horses,
And trust in chariots because they are many
And in horsemen because they are very strong,
But they do not look to the Holy One of Israel, nor seek the LORD!
2 Yet He also is wise and will bring disaster
And does not retract His words,
But will arise against the house of evildoers
And against the help of the workers of iniquity.
3 Now the Egyptians are men and not God,
And their horses are flesh and not spirit;
So the LORD will stretch out His hand,
And he who helps will stumble
And he who is helped will fall,
And all of them will come to an end together. "

For Israel there is one way, one King, one Master. They either rely on Him or they get punished, regardless of what earthly nation they get help from. Man does not 'help' God.
VD July 10, 2017 8:40 AM: The funny thing to watch is people who do not have a group of their own someplace and see who they glom on to and who makes them feel closest to "home".

Exactly. It might be somewhat easier for me to observe this than it is for the average individual, because I never fit in well anywhere with anyone. Which, of course, is why I am totally immune to exclusion threats and other social policing tactics, and why I avoid invitations to leadership like the plague.
Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 10, 2017 8:40 AM: As @3 pointed out Schwartz is a Nazi war criminal who helped turn his own ppl over to the Nazis. The fact that the Israeli ambassador is back him is ironic (if it weren't for the Jews defend Jews thing) and not lost on non-Jewish people.
Bz July 10, 2017 8:44 AM: I assume the point of the subsequent Times of Israel article is, we can criticize Soros if we want to but you can't.
Avalanche July 10, 2017 8:57 AM: @5 "Did you know that Soros is the same spelled backwards, and Soros looks the same turned inside out?"

Seeing is believing -- let's try!
Anonymous July 10, 2017 8:58 AM: Jews are good at tactics but poor at strategy

Think locally, act globally.
Joe Blowe July 10, 2017 9:07 AM: Zionist Knight wrote:Do I stand with Israel? If you do not, then you are facing God's curse/. Pure and simple, right out of the Bible.
Even if so-called Jews were not Edomite-Canaanite-Khazarian imposters they rejected Herbrewism and the Abrahamic Covenant when they adopted their Satanic Babylonian Talmud (which is basically an instruction manual on how to circumvent the commandments of the Old Testament) and Pharisaism. Not to mention their central role in the killing of Christ.

"The return from Babylon and the introduction of the Babylonian Talmud mark the end of Hebrewism and the beginning of Judaism." - Rabbi Stephen Wise, Chief Rabbi of the United States

"With the destruction of the Temple (70 A.D.) the Sadducees disappeared altogether, leaving the regulation of all Jewish affairs in the hands of the Pharisees. Henceforth, Jewish life was regulated by the Pharisees; the whole history of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, and a new aspect was given to the Sanhedrin of the past. A new chain of tradition supplanted the older priestly tradition (Abot 1:1). Pharisaism shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all the future. (See Exhibit 264 herein.)" - Jewish Encyclopedia (1905)
seeingsights July 10, 2017 9:18 AM: I'm willing to bet that the Israeli ambassador does not want his country to lose its Jewish character. (Interestingly enough, a case can be made if one wants to study a good example of an enthno state preserving itself, study Israel's policies). So it's a bit rich that this ambassador is criticizing another government's efforts to preserve their country.
wreckage July 10, 2017 9:23 AM: It's a minor blasphemy that Soros calls his little organization "the open society" organisation, since he seems to be opposed to Popper in every respect.
Miguel Bárbaro July 10, 2017 9:24 AM: "I believe Thomas Beale was once "young, highly educated and single", and similarly avoided becoming an "evolutionary dead end"

"Thomas" Beale, you have been exposed.

Thomas.

Beale.
Elder Son July 10, 2017 9:27 AM: I stand with God's Chosen People... because I have FAITH in God's plan.

God's plan: Beat it into them AND a miraculous sign. And some Jews STILL won't believe.
Godfrey July 10, 2017 9:29 AM: Israel has a wall.

When will Israel open its borders to diversity?
Godfrey July 10, 2017 9:34 AM: @39 Zionist Knight

You really need to read and COMPREHEND your bible. It's time to stop being a dupe for a decades old Israeli intelligence scam.
Andy Fix July 10, 2017 9:37 AM: Israel can be a great ally to the nations of the West. But it cannot fully do so while the diasporans refuse to enter the Land of Milk and Honey and insist on interfering in the affairs of other nations.

Israel sucks as an ally. It literally owes us billions of dollars. It is also a secular racist state that sponsors ISIS and bulldozes gentiles (including Christian Palestinians). It's also a total fraud as the AshkeNAZIs are Italian/Khazar invaders to the Middle East.

ALL THAT SAID... I like this rhetoric. Even though the Jews stole the land from the Palestinians, it's better to expel them all to a single geographic location, and it's too late to send them to Alaska or Madagascar. So I really like the memes of "go back to the lands of milk and honey"... it accomplishes a major goal.
Desdichado July 10, 2017 9:58 AM: Dude; the Jews are not Khazars in any way, shape or form. That's a totally debunked idea, thanks to the miracle of genetic science.
Rodrigo Duterte July 10, 2017 10:03 AM: SteelPalm, intriguingly, has forgot all of that.

This sounds oddly familiar...

"At that time I was still childish enough to try to make the madness of their doctrine clear to them; in my little circle I talked my tongue sore and my throat hoarse, thinking I would inevitably succeed in convincing them how ruinous their Marxist madness was; but what I accomplished was often the opposite. It seemed as though their increased understanding of the destructive effects of Social Democratic theories and their results only reinforced their determination.

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying." - Taylor Swift
S1AL July 10, 2017 10:04 AM: "As someone who has spent a lot of time living as a stranger in strange lands it is clear that it is very tough to assimilate.

No matter how hard you try you are not going to be able to. Your children will do better but they will still be torn between two worlds. Their children will have it easier. By the fourth generation you are getting closer. But you are probably not there yet."

The key is intermarriage. My great-grandfather was a German who came over in the 30's. I had no freaking clue until I was doing genealogy research in middle school. He learned English and married an American girl, and he only spoke English at home.

Having spoken to a guy of Polish descent, he allowed to something similar: his grandmother taught him Polish, but in normal conversation his family only spoke English, and were very insistent upon that - because, to them, being an American meant speaking English.

Language change and intermarriage. Those are the keys to assimilation.
andon July 10, 2017 10:07 AM: why would anyone want jews in their country?

an overclass that makes all the money, gets the top university slots etc? all the while giving you the finger

we dont need them, we have plenty of whites that can serve the same purpose without being enemies and traitors of the country
Thucydides July 10, 2017 10:19 AM: The Israeli's, of all people, should know the danger of open borders....
andon July 10, 2017 10:23 AM: So why does Celler get the primary blame?

why was cellar even involved? if i represent 2% of the population of israel would i stick my nose in their immigration policy or would i realize that im essentially a guest in their country?

why were the jews constantly trying to import more foreigners into America?
Duinne Eile July 10, 2017 10:23 AM: Israelis and open boarders you say

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKCVrpbCFKU

EVERY. FUCKING. TIME
Godfrey July 10, 2017 10:24 AM: THIS... what this ambassador did... THIS kind of behavior that is at the root of anti-semitism.

THIS while HIS country has a wall. THIS while HIS country corners Palestinian refugees and murders them.

THIS is a perfect example for the reason I'm no longer pro-Israel. And THIS is the reason I no longer look upon the Jew as the friend I once thought he was.
Ominous Cowherd July 10, 2017 10:29 AM: Andy Fix wrote:... it's too late to send them to Alaska or Madagascar.

The Madagascari will have to stick up for themselves, but as for Alaska, it's always been too late for them to come here. Alaska for Alaskans.
Godfrey July 10, 2017 10:32 AM: George Soros and his ilk are the best recruiters for the antisemitic crowd this world has ever seen.

Want to prevent the spread of antisemitism? Mossad should take note of the above fact.
andon July 10, 2017 10:37 AM: 32. Blogger SteelPalm July 10, 2017 7:07 AM
No, it's more akin to blaming Hitler for the Holocaust.

I strongly disagree with that, too. Solely or even primarily blaming Hitler is inaccurate.

yes, i notice jews seem to want to blame ALL whites for what Germans may or may not have done. and i've never once heard a jew thank Americans for ending Hitler's Germany, all the while they clutter my country (at taxpayer expense) with memorials that have nothing to do with us
tz July 10, 2017 10:38 AM: Breitbart takes down a NYT column saying Trumpmhas not been sufficiently obsequious to Jews.

If, like SJWs, they are never satisfied and take any concession to double down, then it is better not to try to please them.
roo_ster July 10, 2017 10:38 AM: Zionist Knight wrote:
"Like most anti-semites, your obsessions make you ask the wrong question. The right question is: Do I stand with Israel? If you do not, then you are facing God's curse/. Pure and simple, right out of the Bible."

Not so much.
http://www.theopedia.com/supersessionism
"Supersessionism

Supersessionism is the traditional Christian belief that Christianity is the fulfillment of Biblical Judaism, and therefore that Jews who deny that Jesus is the Jewish Messiah fall short of their calling as God's Chosen people.

Supersessionism, in its more radical form, maintains that the Jews are no longer considered to be God's Chosen people in any sense. This understanding is generally termed "replacement theology."

The traditional form of supersessionism does not theorize a replacement; instead it argues that Israel has been superseded only in the sense that the Church has been entrusted with the fulfillment of the promises of which Jewish Israel is the trustee. This belief has served not only as the explanation for why believers in Christ should not become Jews, but is also the reason that Jews are not exempted by the Christian churches, from the call of the Gospel to believe in Jesus Christ for salvation from sin and from the penalties due to sin."

The promises God gave to the Jews will have their fulfillment only through Jesus Christ, same as any other human. They are either a Christian (of Jewish descent in this case) or they are condemned. The Jews are no longer God's chosen people in and of themselves.
tz July 10, 2017 10:48 AM: @39 I stand with Israel - I'd like every Jew in the diaspora, especially the 70% who voted with Her to return there to help make Israel great.
Now you might disagree with the means...
natschuster July 10, 2017 10:48 AM: Yad Vashem has sethkng called the Avenue of the Rightious Gentiles where trees are planted in honor of Gentiles who helped Jews. And the Chief Rabbi of Rome became Catholic out of gratitude to the Pope.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 10:58 AM: @102 natschuster

Yad Vashem has sethkng called the Avenue of the Rightious Gentiles where trees are planted in honor of Gentiles who helped Jews. And the Chief Rabbi of Rome became Catholic out of gratitude to the Pope.

Besides your head, what's your point?
natschuster July 10, 2017 10:58 AM: sorry typo should be something
James July 10, 2017 11:02 AM: I hate George Soros because of what George Soros does. I will hate the guts of anyone who defends him, whether they are Jew or Greek, male or female, free or bond, barbarian or Scythian. IF the Israeli ambassador protests the lumping in of the POS Soros with Jews in general and Israelis in particular, that would be a fair request. But nothing could be more of a moral disaster for Israel in particular and Jews in general than to allow themselves to be associated with the likes of George Soros. Any friend of George Soros is going to be an enemy of mine, no way around it. It's no wonder that people hate Jews, if Jews defend any POS just because they happen to be Jewish.
tuberman July 10, 2017 11:02 AM: I think this may be my favorite post/article from your blog VD.

Still learning....
andon July 10, 2017 11:04 AM: i thought his goal was to clutter up the blog, as on previous threads, and also to prove that not all jews are 120+
natschuster July 10, 2017 11:16 AM: The person said that Jews aren't grateful for help that was given during the holocaust. That isn't entirely true.
Cail Corishev July 10, 2017 11:26 AM: When a tool easily fixes every problem, it's easy to become lazy and over-reliant on it.

For most of our lifetimes, saying "Holocaust" could make any and all criticism of Jews melt away. So when a Jew did something that deserved criticism, there was no need for other Jews to take a hard look at whether they should defend him or challenge him. They could just say "Holocaust" and make it go away. Easy and effective. No need to ever reach for a different tool.

I'm starting to see why, when Jews wear out their welcome, it seems to come all at once and looks disproportionate from their point of view. Being good at verbal jousting, they've been successful at obfuscating and getting the host population to turn a blind eye to their anti-social behavior, even to make excuses for them. So when someone reaches a point where he stops doing that and looks directly at it, he doesn't just see what Jews are doing that day; he sees what they've been doing since before he was born. He sees Soros and Celler and Zuckerberg and the Hollywood moguls who have perverted his childhood superheroes and the Futurians who took the fun out of science fiction and the Commentary writers who turned conservatism into neoconservatism and trillion-dollar wars for Israel and globalism....and he starts thinking: Every. Single. Time. Decades of offenses seen for the first time all at once, and the human response to that.
Cail Corishev July 10, 2017 11:40 AM: Pure and simple, right out of the Bible.

Yes, so simple that Christians missed it for the first 18 centuries or so. Catholics must be especially slow; the Church didn't figure it out until Vatican II. Here's the prayer every Catholic church said on Good Friday until 1955:

"Let us pray also for the faithless Jews: that Almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts; so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord. Almighty and eternal God, who dost not exclude from thy mercy even Jewish faithlessness: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of thy Truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness."

That seems pretty clear. Funny how we all missed something so simple for so long.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 11:42 AM: @108 natschuster

The person said that Jews aren't grateful for help that was given during the holocaust. That isn't entirely true.

Do you understand how tiresome the NAJALT argument has become? The vast majority of people, and VD in particular, understands that and has stated as much in this and number of other posts.

It's this kind of reflexive defensiveness that only makes things worse. If we are being a blessing people will notice. If we are causing problems, people will also notice, and probably more so.

That's the way it is, and we must learn to deal with it, and deal with it in the right way.

What do you want to be noticed for?

Pro Tip: all criticism=anti-Semitism is not the right way.
Robert Divinity July 10, 2017 11:45 AM: George Soros needs to be arrested for his crimes.

The EUSSR, to borrow from Kong, is a wholly owned subsidiary of Soros and the rest of the Davos gangsters. A Hungarian court would not have the last word. Ask the Brits how it worked out for them when they tried to deport a Muslim cleric routinely encouraging acts of terror.

Orban has played it smart given the realities. Brexit happened in no small part because the EUUSR British legal sovereignty. Orban may have taken note.
Andy Fix July 10, 2017 11:49 AM: "It seems like Jewish/leftist power the past century was built on chutzpah/emotional driven sophistry/empty rhetoric/bullshit that was hard to disprove sans tedious arguments and a long trip to a university library. Fortunately pure verbal persuasion bravado was weakened by the internet as any bullshit gets called out and disproved by autists within seconds/minutes. Jew tactics just don't seem to work that well anymore and often blow up in their face. "
https://mpcdot.com/forums/topic/8496-the-donald-trump-presidential-archive/page__st__26840
BBGKB July 10, 2017 11:50 AM: Yes, I agree with you, and the solution is to import lots of low IQ brown and black people from Africa.

One of the harder red pills is that Koko the sign language gorilla is smarter than the majority of people on the planet. Whites are only 8% of the worlds population, & Africa has enough square miles to fit in USA, China, Europe, India, Japan, & others look at a globe not a map.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2445615/True-size-Africa-continent-big-China-India-US-Europe-together.html
James July 10, 2017 11:50 AM: roo_ster wrote: The promises God gave to the Jews will have their fulfillment only through Jesus Christ, same as any other human. The Jews are no longer God's chosen people in and of themselves.

What promises were the jews ever given by God, other than their complete destruction? The only thing the "chosen people" were ever chosen for is to lead Israel away from God and then be destroyed in judgement.
BBGKB July 10, 2017 11:55 AM: A very clear example is the modern push for transgender degeneracy

The boy scouts won the supreme court in 2000 but over 9000 jew lawyers forced them to take trannies by Jan 2017
natschuster July 10, 2017 11:57 AM: It's just that people tend to overlook the good things.
Deplorable Winning July 10, 2017 12:10 PM: BBGKB wrote:Africa has enough square miles to fit in USA, China, Europe, India, Japan, & others look at a globe not a map.

Cool picture! That's the start of a one-shot, one-kill meme.
Aframe July 10, 2017 12:14 PM: " If you don't hate what Immanuel Celler did to the USA, you're objectively anti-American."

This is such a shockingly incompetent statement it's hard to believe Vox Day, let alone someone above the age of 12, penned it.
Quicksilver75 July 10, 2017 12:22 PM: "Such a shockingly incompetent statement"
Does it hurt your feelings that such straight talk is now commonplace? Too bad. Celler clearly wanted to transform the demographics of the USA to make it more reliably Left wing, and to assuage his own personal insecurities.

He wanted America to become multicultural while posturing w/ Kennedy that little would change. It was all a scam.
The jig is up.
Josh (the gayest thing here) July 10, 2017 12:23 PM: Yes, so simple that Christians missed it for the first 18 centuries or so.

To be fair, the state of Israel didn't exist for those 18 centuries
Aframe July 10, 2017 12:23 PM: "There is absolutely no question that the US Jewish organizations were primarily responsible for the 1965 Naturalization Act and the subsequent destruction of US demographics."

When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.
Shimshon July 10, 2017 12:24 PM: SteelPalm, I wouldn't say you're guilty of monomania, but you don't miss an opportunity to say your piece on the subject when it comes up.
Aframe July 10, 2017 12:24 PM: ""Such a shockingly incompetent statement"
Does it hurt your feelings that such straight talk is now commonplace?"

No, it hurts my sense or rationality. The statement is so far off the mark it's simply shocking.
FrankNorman July 10, 2017 12:28 PM: 108. natschuster July 10, 2017 11:16 AM

The person said that Jews aren't grateful for help that was given during the holocaust. That isn't entirely true.

We know that some Jews are grateful.

But the ones that keep using The Holocaust as a rhetorical bludgeon against all humanity, including the very peoples who went to war against the Nazis?
To acknowledge that there were Christians who helped Jews escape the Nazis, often at the risk of their own lives, would spoil their narrative.
Josh (the gayest thing here) July 10, 2017 12:33 PM: SteelPalm, I wouldn't say you're guilty of monomania, but you don't miss an opportunity to say your piece on the subject when it comes up.

Jew vs Jew
Gen. Kong July 10, 2017 12:37 PM: This presumes that one views Celler as an intentionally evil man. I don't. I think Celler believed that what he was doing would benefit his own people and would benefit the US.

Celler was genocidally evil. He cheered when told late in life that whites would be a minority in the US by 2050. Moreover, as one can see from the article The US Gun Control Act of 1968 directly evolved from Celler's Bill H.R. 17735.[3][4] It's all part of the two-millenia hate. Of course most of (((them))) stand by Soros, regardless of how the Soros family fortune came about. Look what happened to Cheetoze Jeezus when he did an exposé on Fox News - ADL et at screamed and Beck got fired. As for their "conversion" to Christianity, we can see how well that worked out in Spain with the marranos undermining the church from within, notably the influence of Jews in the drafting of Vatican II. Always odd to see the folks like Barnhardt rail on about the Musloids as they totally turn a blind eye to the unending genocidal hatred of the Talmudic Synagogue of Satan.
roo_ster July 10, 2017 12:41 PM: James wrote:
"What promises were the jews ever given by God, other than their complete destruction? The only thing the "chosen people" were ever chosen for is to lead Israel away from God and then be destroyed in judgement."

Same promises as the rest of us--no more, no less--as found in the Gospel. Tracing one's ancestry back a couple thousand years to a semetic tribe in the Levant is proof of neither salvation nor condemnation by God.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 12:52 PM: Aframe wrote:" If you don't hate what Immanuel Celler did to the USA, you're objectively anti-American."

This is such a shockingly incompetent statement it's hard to believe Vox Day, let alone someone above the age of 12, penned it.

Aframe wrote:"There is absolutely no question that the US Jewish organizations were primarily responsible for the 1965 Naturalization Act and the subsequent destruction of US demographics."

When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

Ya just can't help yourself can ya? Please, for the love of G-d, stop making the trains great again.
Tipsy July 10, 2017 12:55 PM: Soros also funded the Central European University in Prague. The Czech government, headed by Vaclav Klaus, sent it packing in 1996.
James July 10, 2017 12:55 PM: Aframe wrote:

When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

I'm glad you brought this up. The Federal Reserve Act was passed in 1913. And in 1913, there were even fewer jews infecting the Federal government. But, when you look at who created the push for and benefited from the passage of this nefarious act, you realize that private jewish banks were the beneficiaries. By bribing White whores, the jews were able to consolidate the Babylonian system of legitimized theft in both Europe and America. Once they owned the mechanism by which they could lend the White Posterity "currency" at interest, they had the economic power to control all nexuses of power, from the government, to the media, to the judicial system, to the public school system, the Christian churches, and so on. One of the ways they promoted the central bank concept in America was to claim that this would lead to "sound monetary policy" which would remove the boom and bust pendulum swings of the American economy. In 17 years, they had brought about the worst economic disaster in world history with which they further consolidated their power.

Yes, Whites have been bought by the jews and then perform traitorous acts to reduce the power of White people and support increased powers for the jews. That is the reason that they shall be punished even more severely than the jews. This also accounts for their desperation in trying to derail the current alt-right revolution since they know that it spells their eventual demise.
wrf3 July 10, 2017 12:57 PM: Zionist Knight wrote:The right question is: Do I stand with Israel? If you do not, then you are facing God's curse/. Pure and simple, right out of the Bible.

Define "Israel". In particular, incorporate Romans 9:6: "For not all Israelites truly belong to Israel." What, exactly, does this mean?
Quicksilver75 July 10, 2017 1:02 PM: "When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage."

The flaw in the above is that Celler had been plotting & agitating since the 1924 Restriction law was passed to repeal that law. He alone was the single minded champion who kept a multicult/open borders USA vision ready to implement. He was able to use the aura of the civil rights era which his coethnics were promoting in the MSM as moral shield to ram it through. Were there Irish-American & malleable WASP allies? Of course, but Celler had for decades been the spearhead, and the single minded locus of control.
James July 10, 2017 1:04 PM: roo_ster wrote:James wrote:

"What promises were the jews ever given by God, other than their complete destruction? The only thing the "chosen people" were ever chosen for is to lead Israel away from God and then be destroyed in judgement."

Same promises as the rest of us--no more, no less--as found in the Gospel. Tracing one's ancestry back a couple thousand years to a semetic tribe in the Levant is proof of neither salvation nor condemnation by God.

Actually, it is. Who did the Messiah come for? As he said, in Matthew, Mark, and Luke, "Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." He also said, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." The Law was a contract between God and Israel. No one else. Therefore, only Israel was capable of "sin", meaning violation of the Law. Therefore, only Israel was "redeemed" by the Messiah's sacrifice. I realize this is alien to your understanding. I suggest you study to understand it.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 10, 2017 1:06 PM: Gen. Kong, the GCA - 68 contains phrases such as "sporting use" that appear to have been lifted directly from 1930's German gun laws. Celler's legislation was copied from the Nazi's.
Aframe July 10, 2017 1:07 PM: "Yes, Whites have been bought by the jews and then perform traitorous acts to reduce the power of White people and support increased powers for the jews. "

Yes...those sneaky Jews exerted mind control over Whites!!!
Grayman July 10, 2017 1:08 PM: This is going to get very ugly as things go hot. The various ethnic groups are already stating their claims and rallying support, from the hispanics with La Raza to the blacks with BLM to American whites on the alt-right spectrum to European whites rediscovering their nationality (and national religious heritage)
I suspect each of these groups will look for easy prey as things kick off in various regions and the jews will probably be the low hanging fruit in many cases. Jews who are looking at where all of this goes would be wise to go "home" to israel or start getting very vocal in support of the group you plan on trying to mix with. In the not so far fututre there will be a time when your skin and your god are what you live and die by.

In a historical sense it will be quite intersting to see how the heavily urban blacks and hispanics fair against the rural whites
Aframe July 10, 2017 1:10 PM: "Were there Irish-American & malleable WASP allies? Of course, but Celler had for decades been the spearhead, and the single minded locus of control."

Celler had one vote. Blame the white Christians. They did it.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 1:10 PM: @134 James

Actually, it is. Who did the Messiah come for?

For starters, a close study of the book of Acts might prove helpful to you and enrich your understanding in that regard.
I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 10, 2017 1:10 PM: I have decided that David Draiman does not have to go back.

Because VD's Jewish doppelgänger.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 1:13 PM: Aframe wrote:"Yes, Whites have been bought by the jews and then perform traitorous acts to reduce the power of White people and support increased powers for the jews. "

Yes...those sneaky Jews exerted mind control over Whites!!!

Hey Matthew, can we spam the anti-Semite?
Gen. Kong July 10, 2017 1:15 PM: Yes, Whites have been bought by the jews and then perform traitorous acts to reduce the power of White people and support increased powers for the jews. That is the reason that they shall be punished even more severely than the jews. This also accounts for their desperation in trying to derail the current alt-right revolution since they know that it spells their eventual demise.

This is quite true. I'll bet most nationalists feel the same. My general position on Jews is that "they have to go back". Israel is there. It needs them. The white traitors - referred to by Jack Ryan as Gracchite Traitors are truly the most loathesome creatures in existence. The only mercy which should be given to them or any of their descendants or retinue is a fast death, much as I might perfer them to burned alive in wicker cages. Apart from the truly criminal Jews like Soros, most should be made to leave. Israel could do a great deal to restore its own reputation and that of Jews in general were it to liquidate Soros, his family and toadies. That's unlikely as I expect Soros owns Israel as he owns the Vatican.
VD July 10, 2017 1:17 PM: The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

Bernie Madoff went to jail. Not the people who were swindled by him.

Yes...those sneaky Jews exerted mind control over Whites!!!

You can rhetoric all you like. But no matter what you say, you have to go back.
VD July 10, 2017 1:18 PM: Hey Matthew, can we spam the anti-Semite?

Go ahead. He's got nothing but the usual Holo-yap.
basementhomebrewer July 10, 2017 1:18 PM: Aframe wrote:"There is absolutely no question that the US Jewish organizations were primarily responsible for the 1965 Naturalization Act and the subsequent destruction of US demographics."

When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

As I implied earlier, "but the goyim helped us do this to them" is not a compelling argument. I know, it's an excuse the jews have fallen back on for centuries (It wasn't the Pharisees who killed Jesus, it was the Romans.) , the logic ignores who came up with the plan and who went out and convinced others to carry it out.
James July 10, 2017 1:20 PM: Hey Aframe,

>>>Yes...those sneaky Jews exerted mind control over Whites!!!<<<

In the immortal words of Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott,
"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
andon July 10, 2017 1:24 PM: Celler was genocidally evil. He cheered when told late in life that whites would be a minority in the US by 2050.

wow, the real face
andon July 10, 2017 1:26 PM: @ 146. James

i like GW Bush's version better :)
Cail Corishev July 10, 2017 1:32 PM: As I implied earlier, "but the goyim helped us do this to them" is not a compelling argument.

In fact, it seems like a dangerous one to me. If you say, "Hey, it's your fault for letting us scam you," that admits there was a scam.

I just had a flashback to the MASH episode where B.J. (I think) somehow got the others all playing pranks on each other and fighting amongst themselves. I can't remember the details, except that when they all realize who was behind it, they all rush at him as a crowd.

It seems like a really bad idea for 2 people to tell 98 people, "Caveat emptor, sucks to be you."
James July 10, 2017 1:33 PM: Rabbi B wrote:@134 James

Actually, it is. Who did the Messiah come for?

For starters, a close study of the book of Acts might prove helpful to you and enrich your understanding in that regard.

And, I just showed you the Messiah's understanding of whom he came for. You jews have been using the terms "jews" and Israel synonymously for some time now. You also misuse the term gentile to mean non-jew.
James July 10, 2017 1:34 PM: Aframe wrote:"Yes, Whites have been bought by the jews and then perform traitorous acts to reduce the power of White people and support increased powers for the jews. "

Yes...those sneaky Jews exerted mind control over Whites!!!

No, they exerted monetary bribery, not mind control.
Grayman July 10, 2017 1:37 PM: LOL!!! By that same logic Hitler did nothing wrong, he didnt kill any jews in concentration camps. It was the evil SS soldiers who actually pulled the trigger.
Grayman July 10, 2017 1:38 PM: left the quote out....

When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

LOL!!! By that same logic Hitler did nothing wrong, he didnt kill any jews in concentration camps. It was the evil SS soldiers who actually pulled the trigger.
Quicksilver75 July 10, 2017 1:41 PM: Aframe, Are you just lazy??
from Wikipedia on E Celler,
"Also in 1965, he proposed and steered to passage the Hart-Celler Act, which eliminated national origins as a consideration for immigration. This was the culminating moment in Celler's 41-year fight to overcome restriction on immigration to the United States based on national origin."

You should also immerse yourself on the topic at sites like this: http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/010637.html
excerpt-
"I agree with Chin that some in this particular Congress were most extreme in advancing their race blind ideology, the same Congress which also passed the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, all three proposed or drafted in part by Emanuel Celler, a career-long advocate for removing national origin quotas in our immigration policy."
kurt9 July 10, 2017 1:43 PM: This hectoring by the Israeli ambassador to Hungary is likely to backfire, as in "who the fuck are you (as an foreigner) to tell us what we can and cannot do in our own country?".
Shut up rabbit July 10, 2017 1:48 PM: basementhomebrewer wrote:the logic ignores who came up with the plan and who went out and convinced others to carry it out.

Sounds like satanic morality: they truly believe they are absolved from any crimes which they plan, order, coerce or trick other people into carrying out on their behalf.
Hitler July 10, 2017 1:50 PM: I told you I didn't do anything wrong. I was a victim of circumstance.
Matthew July 10, 2017 1:56 PM: Shut up rabbit wrote:
Sounds like satanic morality: they truly believe they are absolved from any crimes which they plan, order, coerce or trick other people into carrying out on their behalf.

I'll take One Line Reviews of Religious Texts for 800, Alex.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents July 10, 2017 2:15 PM: @109 Cail Corishev
For most of our lifetimes, saying "Holocaust" could make any and all criticism of Jews melt away.

Just how many Holocaust museums are there in the US?

https://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/usa-maps/holocaust-museums.html

I get that there's going to be a Holocaust museum in DC and another in L.A. but St. Louis? Buffalo? El Paso? Was there ever some big Nazi problem in El Paso? Did Literally Hitler try to take over Buffalo years ago?

World wide it looks like the single most commemorated event, evah.
https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_Holocaust_memorials_and_museums

Much more so than the victims of Communism. But we are not supposed to Notice how one particular mass killing is extraordinarily special, all others don't really matter. Funny thing, isn't it?
Mr. Rational July 10, 2017 2:19 PM: Sherwood family wrote:He did not view himself and his people as harmful to the United States and extrapolating from this view of himself it would be easy for him to make the reasoned argument that if he is a benefit to his country why not more of his coethnics/coreligionists?
He spent 40+ years agitating against laws that the American people had put in place to safeguard their country against threats like floods of E. European anarchists as well as the hordes of muds.

He would have had to ignore all of that, or even want those dangers returned, to push his program.

He quite literally didn't care about the people of the United States, other than his own. They were ciphers or enemies to him. He should have been deported in 1948, along with the rest of his family.
Robert Divinity July 10, 2017 2:20 PM: This hectoring by the Israeli ambassador to Hungary is likely to backfire, as in "who the fuck are you (as an foreigner) to tell us what we can and cannot do in our own country?"

Viktor Orban couldn't buy propaganda more effective. The Jewish proclivity to overplay their hands is an oft-fatal cultural feature. To prop up the criminal Soros, Hungarian Jews have shown greater solidarity with the State of Israel and Marxist student organizations than with the nation where they live. As pointed out many times above, Celler's push to destroy the historic American nation demographically likely will end in an environment hostile to Jews after several hundred years of placid existence. Greed and overreaching, again, will result in devastation.
Lazarus July 10, 2017 2:32 PM: Hitler wrote:I told you I didn't do anything wrong. I was a victim of circumstance.

You should do a video about it and put it on youtube.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 2:36 PM: @150 James

And I just showed you ...

No, you really didn't. Like I said, a study of Acts and a careful reading of Paul's writings is in order. And, when reading Paul, be careful to heed Peter's warning in II Peter 3:16.
Kristophr July 10, 2017 2:39 PM: Why is an Israeli ambassador supporting an ex-Hitler Youth?
Moonbear July 10, 2017 2:43 PM: On this occasion would it not be more apt to use the term counter-semite.
Ominous Cowherd July 10, 2017 2:53 PM: Cail Corishev wrote:Here's the prayer every Catholic church said on Good Friday until 1955:

"Let us pray also for the faithless Jews: that Almighty God may remove the veil from their hearts; so that they too may acknowledge Jesus Christ our Lord. Almighty and eternal God, who dost not exclude from thy mercy even Jewish faithlessness: hear our prayers, which we offer for the blindness of that people; that acknowledging the light of thy Truth, which is Christ, they may be delivered from their darkness."

There used to be a lot to like in the Roman Church.
Aframe July 10, 2017 3:01 PM: "LOL!!! By that same logic Hitler did nothing wrong, he didnt kill any jews in concentration camps. It was the evil SS soldiers who actually pulled the trigger."

Celler was one vote. The overwhelming number of white Christians in Congress at the time didn't have to vote for it. They got it passed. They are responsible. Any other explanation is simple BS.
Kreator July 10, 2017 3:03 PM: Hitler was one man, the Jews did not have to surrender their weapons to said man. They surrendered their weapons to Hitler in 1936. They are responsible. Any other explanation is simple BS.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 3:04 PM: Aframe wrote:"LOL!!! By that same logic Hitler did nothing wrong, he didnt kill any jews in concentration camps. It was the evil SS soldiers who actually pulled the trigger."

Celler was one vote. The overwhelming number of white Christians in Congress at the time didn't have to vote for it. They got it passed. They are responsible. Any other explanation is simple BS.

That's it. I'm contacting the ADL.
Grayman July 10, 2017 3:15 PM: Celler was one vote. The overwhelming number of white Christians in Congress at the time didn't have to vote for it. They got it passed. They are responsible. Any other explanation is simple BS.

Hitler was one man, the soldiers in the camps didn't have to listen to him. It was later determined during trials at the Hauge that "I was just following orders" was not a legitimate excuse. So clearly the individual soldiers are at fault for the holocaust and Hitler did nothing wrong

I'm glad to see you support this logic Aframe.
Hezekiah Garrett July 10, 2017 3:15 PM: Actually, they pretended to rush BJ. It was all a metaprank on Hawkeye that ended with Hawkeye dropping his pants and singing "You're the Tops" on a galley table.

I guess my wife is right, I HAVE watched too much M*A*S*H.
Icicle July 10, 2017 3:18 PM: I get that there's going to be a Holocaust museum in DC and another in L.A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhBhlsl6VPs

The video gamers knew back in the 90s!

On this occasion would it not be more apt to use the term counter-semite.

Maybe contra-semite? The Communist angle would make some good triggering.

...likely will end in an environment hostile to Jews after several hundred years of placid existence. Greed and overreaching, again, will result in devastation.

If only someone wrote a book about it. Maybe a testament of what happened.
Athor Pel July 10, 2017 3:19 PM: " 134. Blogger James July 10, 2017 1:04 PM
...
The Law was a contract between God and Israel. No one else. Therefore, only Israel was capable of "sin", meaning violation of the Law. Therefore, only Israel was "redeemed" by the Messiah's sacrifice. I realize this is alien to your understanding. I suggest you study to understand it."

More strong stupid, wheeee. This is fun. Say something else stupid. I bet you can.
Hitler July 10, 2017 3:22 PM: You should do a video about it and put it on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPXHRX8Q2hs

I already did.
tz July 10, 2017 3:32 PM: Isreal reconsiders

And clutching the urim and thummim

Meanwhile back in Michigan, the other Holocaust museum has someone who wants separate schools

While I favor homeschooling, maybe these yeshivas should be forced to learn the socialist line?
praetorian July 10, 2017 3:34 PM: @SteelPalm

Jews were the driving ethnic group behind opening up America's borders. Yes, some irish politicians were involved (and I hope they burn for the 30 pieces of silver it earned them) but it wasn't an irish cause and there were plenty of America First irish. MacDonald documents the whole thing, as well as the jewish strategy of finding sympathetic gentiles as public faces (e.g. Jung).

If it makes you feel better I'm irish and jewish, so it is literally all my fault.
Mike Harris July 10, 2017 3:39 PM: The issue was not that criticism of Soros was considered anti-Semitic (the government of Israel actually supported the Hungarian campaign against Soros: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-hungary-soros-idUSKBN19V1J4), it's that a number of groups are using the campaign to stir up anti-Semitism. Soros' Judaism consisted of collaboration during the Holocaust and working to undermine Israeli sovereignty.
tz July 10, 2017 3:39 PM: And JVP is called out for exposing Training us police to act like the IDF and increase brutality and escalate.

They are a far left group, but it is interesting to see the Jews being displaced on the left while saying "no! we're really on your side".
Deplorable Winning July 10, 2017 3:51 PM: Lazarus wrote:Hitler wrote:I told you I didn't do anything wrong. I was a victim of circumstance.

You should do a video about it and put it on youtube.

Nah, it would get parodied so much that no one would know which one was real. Beside, if Hitler was a pied-piper Jew, and the entire Nazi project an exercise in misdirection, it completely inverts the Alt-Retard meaning.
http://mileswmathis.com/hiller.pdf

SteelPalm wrote:the US still passes an Immigration Act if Celler had never been born... There are Cellers, Jewish or gentile, in every country; evil opportunists just looking for an opening. Celler didn't have that opening in the 40s, but he did by the 60s. What caused that opening?

That's the important question- how did the largest alien invasion in history come to be all across the West?

Some ingredients-
* Banksters (mostly Jewish and/or Peerage) win WWII, their OSS becomes their CIA. This allows them to perfect blackmail among many other things.
* The US$ took over the reserve role as a system of post-war tribute. (They had to keep expanding the base of this pyramid scheme, hence invade, invite.)
* The system of owning politicos through blackmail is fully consolidated (Pizzagate and Lolita Express are latter-day examples.)
* A crystallization of peerage opinion took place in the 20 years after WWII, with the Trump victory a recent counter-example of schism in those ranks. The comments above about foreigners in small numbers applies to the 'elite' groups as well.
* The combination of peer-pressure, blackmail, and major resource denial/granting enabled by central banking.
tz July 10, 2017 3:52 PM: Israel has asserted the right of return.
Make December 26th great again if you don't like those at the base of the tree ... Christ was nailed to.
Many happy returns!

NAJALT. The problem is when some - any - group ends up having a narrow and common position. 70% of Jews voted for the Lizard Queen and Obama. Somewhere just SLIGHTLY north it is far more efficient to send EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM back to Israel, which isn't supposed to be a hell hole. Then we can condescend to accept a few back if we can justify it, but on a limited basis...

There is a parallel with my thinking on Islam. Until the mid 2000's most were intellectual and Jihad was something internal. Then we got islamic radicals (even if a lite version initially). By the mid 2010s, I had to concede that the "average" muslim in the USA was more likely to do some act against me than be a good assimilated neighbor. That is a problem with the conscious decision to bring in Islamists. But it doesn't change the facts on the ground. Where Dearborn was Arabic, and if you understood was a pleasant place to get falafil, fatoush, kebobs, and such, now it is not quite a no-go zone, only because they are higher functioning and hide it better. Where are the "good Muslims", overwhelmed, silenced, or in hiding.
SirHamster July 10, 2017 3:52 PM: James wrote:Therefore, only Israel was capable of "sin", meaning violation of the Law.

Sin came into the world through Adam, son of Adam.

The Law as a tutor shined a light on sin, revealing transgression but without the power to save.
Grayman July 10, 2017 4:00 PM: @tz

... only because they are higher functioning and hide it better. Where are the "good Muslims", overwhelmed, silenced, or in hiding.

Wrong, the "good" musliims never existed, they were simply mimicking the locals in order to be accepted. Once a critical mass of muslims is achieved they don't have to pretend anymore.

"PM Erdogan: The Term “Moderate Islam” Is Ugly And Offensive; There Is No Moderate Islam; Islam Is Islam"
S1AL July 10, 2017 4:01 PM: "Until the mid 2000's most were intellectual and Jihad was something internal."

You're half right. Until that time, most of the Muslims in the USA were either exchange students or heritage Muslims - i.e. non-practicing. Additionally, young Muslims are, in the whole, not particularly interested in the religion unless there's an elder patriarch to enforce it. This is a large part of why you get Nate's inserted phenomenon that "as individuals, Muslims aren't a problem... in a group, they're assholes."
Joseph Cawell July 10, 2017 4:05 PM: As Mike Harris points out in 177, Soros hates Israel and Jews in general, and the feeling is mutual: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-hungary-soros-idUSKBN19V1J4
OvenExtraCrispy July 10, 2017 4:11 PM: Emanuel Celler didnu nuffin. He a good boy. Was goin be a rapper when he grow up.
Deplorable Winning July 10, 2017 4:11 PM: VD wrote:the Elders of Wye

A mysterious voxdayism. I'll take a shot- penultimate Z.
Ingot9455 July 10, 2017 4:37 PM: @186 From https://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/01/protocols-of-learned-elders-of-wye.html which has a link to Israel's leftist paper where all the leftist non-Israeli Jews get together and discuss where they're going to skip town to next.
Ingot9455 July 10, 2017 4:38 PM: @184 But dumb leftist jews like Soros just fine.
beerme July 10, 2017 4:43 PM: Soros is a absurd example of Jewish ingrouping. Anyone else who collaborated with the Nazis and single handedly redpills as many people on the JQ as he has would end up neutralized by the Israelis. Yet, we see this behavior on his behalf by their ambassador.
BBGKB July 10, 2017 4:53 PM: When the 1965 Naturalization Act was passed, there were 14 Jews in the House and 3 in the Senate. The overwhelming majority of Senators and Representatives in Congress in 1965 were white Christians.

The white christians are near completely responsible for its passage.

The jews swore up and down that everything that was predicted to happen, & did happen wouldn't happen.

, can we spam the anti-Semite?

I'll have you know I am one of the biggest Zionists out there,MAKE ALIYAH MAKE ALIYAH
areeba areeba, undalay undalay
Aframe July 10, 2017 4:55 PM: Jews represent about 2& of the U.S. population. You all need to take stock and fess up to who created the problems to assign to jews: Christian Whites.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 4:57 PM: Shut up, Aframe.
CJ July 10, 2017 4:59 PM: That ambassador seems to have received a forceful "clarification" from the Israeli Foreign Ministry:

Israel's ambassador to Hungary issued a statement denouncing the campaign, saying it "evokes sad memories but also sows hatred and fear", an apparent reference to Hungary's part in the deportation of 500,000 Jews during the Holocaust.

But hours after the ambassador made his comments over the weekend, Israel's foreign ministry issued a "clarification" saying that Soros was a legitimate target for criticism.

"In no way was the statement (by the ambassador) meant to delegitimize criticism of George Soros, who continuously undermines Israel's democratically elected governments," said foreign ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon, adding that Soros funded organizations "that defame the Jewish state and seek to deny it the right to defend itself".

A spokesman for Soros's Open Society Foundations did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

NETANYAHU VISIT

The foreign ministry's unusual decision to issue a statement clarifying comments by one of its ambassadors comes days before Netanyahu, who also serves as Israel's foreign minister, is scheduled to visit Orban.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-israel-hungary-soros-idUSKBN19V1J4
beerme July 10, 2017 5:02 PM: Aframe's low energy trolling is what happens when you cheap out on paid shills.
Gen. Kong July 10, 2017 5:07 PM: Much more so than the victims of Communism. But we are not supposed to Notice how one particular mass killing is extraordinarily special, all others don't really matter. Funny thing, isn't it?

Especially when you consider (((whose))) fingers were actually on the trigger doing the killings in the old USSR. (((Lazar Kaganovich))) was Stalin's boot on the face for the Holodomor. (((Israel Shahak))) was actually horrified when visiting the USSR at the number of (((tribal names))) listed on Soviet monuments commemorating NKVD operatives who scored a great number of murders. Of course, (((they))) did invent Murder, Inc. here in Banana Empire. They have to go back.
Aframe July 10, 2017 5:07 PM: @RabbiB

You can't claim any authority to speak for anyone but yourself. And until you recognize that Jews have no power to dictate events in the U.S. nor are anywhere near responsible for the things you and other hysterical jew haters claim, you just end up looking rather pitiful.
BBGKB July 10, 2017 5:12 PM: Jews make up 5 of the 6 fake-Americans who own FAKE NEWS while pushing the opposite of what they want in their homeland on the USA
Aframe July 10, 2017 5:14 PM: "Jews make up 5 of the 6 fake-Americans who own FAKE NEWS while pushing the opposite of what they want in their homeland on the USA"

You don't understand America or News, making you the last person to consider on the topics.
Gen. Kong July 10, 2017 5:17 PM: Lazarus wrote:

Hitler wrote:
I told you I didn't do anything wrong. I was a victim of circumstance.

You should do a video about it and put it on youtube.

He dindu nuffin an' beez a good boy. He wuz going to be a video producer.
Rabbi B July 10, 2017 5:18 PM: @196 Aframe

I don't have to claim authority to identify a sub-optimal, obtuse moron when I see one.

You're just one in a long series of midwits who can always be counted on to show up and illustrate the OP better than the OP.

I suspect, that if you're Jewish, you're of the Reform variety who has long ago forsaken the Torah and Torah principles, and therefore the real Jew-hater who would be doing (((us))) all a huge favor by shutting your bagel hole.

If not, then you're just a run-of-the-mill, low grade troll with nothing of any substance to say.

And you're boring. Time to move along now, numbnutz.

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