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Saturday, July 01, 2017

The transformation of the GOP

It is shocking - absolutely shocking - to discover that a model minority named "Avik Roy" is opposed to the transformation of the Republican Party from a conservative party to a nationalist party:
 Avik Roy is a Republican’s Republican. A health care wonk and editor at Forbes, he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio. Much of his adult life has been dedicated to advancing the Republican Party and conservative ideals.

But when I caught up with Roy at a bar just outside the Republican convention, he said something I’ve never heard from an establishment conservative before: The Grand Old Party is going to die.

“I don’t think the Republican Party and the conservative movement are capable of reforming themselves in an incremental and gradual way,” he said. “There’s going to be a disruption.”

Roy isn’t happy about this: He believes it means the Democrats will dominate national American politics for some time. But he also believes the Republican Party has lost its right to govern, because it is driven by white nationalism rather than a true commitment to equality for all Americans.

“Until the conservative movement can stand up and live by that principle, it will not have the moral authority to lead the country,” he told me.

This is a standard assessment among liberals, but it is frankly shocking to hear from a prominent conservative thinker. Our conversation had the air of a confessional: of Roy admitting that he and his intellectual comrades had gone wrong, had failed, had sinned.
But this is not why the Republican Party will die, it is why the conservative movement has lost control of the Republican Party, and why the conservative movement will die. Since when was the primary objective of the Republican Party, the USA, or the Constitution "a true commitment to equality for all Americans", particularly in a world where "Americans" can be born anywhere? And it is nonsense to claim a political party should be driven by a commitment to something that does not exist; Roy might as reasonably decry the failure of the Republican commitment to unicorns.

The irony, as usual, is that Roy is practicing the very identity politics he decries. He's opposed to American nationalism because he isn't an American, he's just a paperwork facsimile. And he's wrong, of course, because the Democrats are not going to dominate American politics, because the more the demographics shift against white Americans, the more strongly they are going to be forced to band together in their own self-interest and defense.

The reality is that Roy is going to become a Democrat, just like all the other so-called conservatives whose identity is non-white. Because people like him have been practicing identity politics all along, they've just been doing so under cover of equalitarian ideology.

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173 Comments:

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 01, 2017 12:15 PM  

He has to go back.

Anonymous DissidentRight July 01, 2017 12:17 PM  

It's hilarious how his spot-on-analysis leads to exactly the wrong conclusion.

The Democratic Party isn't the "everyone" party, it's the "everyone but whites" party. Doesn't he know that Fake Americans are a minority?

Anonymous JAG July 01, 2017 12:19 PM  

Roy isn’t happy about this: He believes it means the Democrats will dominate national American politics for some time. But he also believes the Republican Party has lost its right to govern, because it is driven by white nationalism rather than a true commitment to equality for all Americans.

Laughable.

The first sentence is 180% out of phase with reality. The emergence of the Alt-Right has lead to the first cultural ass kickings I've ever seen the left take. I had given up hope of ever seeing it.

Also, a bit of projection there as we all know the failure of Conservatism, Inc. The Alt-Right could hardly screw things up worse. I don't think that's possible. We actually like to kick the left's ass.

The second sentence reveals a total cuck.

Blogger #7139 July 01, 2017 12:22 PM  

Avik Roy is a Bengali imperialist. Cast him out. Say no to Bengali imperialism.

Anonymous Didas Kalos July 01, 2017 12:23 PM  

Your observations are spot on. I only add he is stupid or a liar. "Roy isn’t happy about this: He believes it means the Democrats will dominate national American politics for some time. But he also believes the Republican Party has lost its right to govern, because it is driven by white nationalism rather than a true commitment to equality for all Americans."

Anonymous Pizzagate McMuffin July 01, 2017 12:23 PM  

Vox:

1) what are your thoughts on Pence? "Our guy" or potential backstabber?

2) your thoughts on straight-up traitors like Rep. Justin Amash who got exposed by biting on the Russia Fake News? Paul Ryan? Will Trump remove the cucks in 2018?

3) thoughts on cucks last week melting down about Trump's tweets... same NeverTrump assholes like (((Shapiro))), David Burge, Erickson, etc?

Thanks in advance.

Anonymous Avik's Buddy July 01, 2017 12:27 PM  

That article is from last year. Recently Avik said positive things about the Republican health care bill online and received death threats, so you can see how well that respectable conservatism is working out for him.

Anonymous Boomer Genocide Now July 01, 2017 12:28 PM  

"Avik Roy is a Republican’s Republican."

Google says:
Avik Roy is an Indian-American journalist and policy advisor. He is the co-founder and president of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, a think tank based in Austin, Texas.

This is why I fucking hate the GOP.

Blogger pyrrhus July 01, 2017 12:30 PM  

(((Avik Roy))) doesn't believe in American nationalism. What a surprise! But there is still Israel for Avik and his parasitic compatriots....

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 12:31 PM  


(((Avik Roy))) doesn't believe in American nationalism. What a surprise! But there is still Israel for Avik and his parasitic compatriots....


Bengali isn't Jewish

Anonymous Reenay July 01, 2017 12:31 PM  

JAG wrote:The second sentence reveals a total cuck.
He's not a cuck, he's just not white. He's Indian (dot), actually. He might not be shitting in the streets, but regression to the means means that if he had his way, he would eventually inadvertently - whether by design or accident (and I am talking about the long term here) - turn the Republican Party into the Designated Street Shitting Party, because that's what Indians do.

Actually, the Democrats are almost already there. Just look at San Francisco and their recent decriminalization of shitting in the streets. Why do we need a second party that just does the same thing?

The only hope the Republican party has to succeed in the future is to appeal to whites, otherwise it's just a poor imitation of the Democrat party.

Blogger pyrrhus July 01, 2017 12:32 PM  

Oh wait, Avik is Indian!? Delhi and Bombay, with their streets crowded with corpses, await him.....

Anonymous Bagger Vance July 01, 2017 12:33 PM  

'There's going to be disruption"

Everyone (esp tech) throws around "disrupt" as a buzzword now, weird to see how afraid they are of it when it's on our side

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 01, 2017 12:35 PM  

He has never said boo to the Ds identity politics practices, he has zero moral standing

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 12:36 PM  

From the article:
"Conservative intellectuals, for the most part, are horrified by racism. When they talk about believing in individual rights and equality, they really mean it. Because the Republican Party is the vehicle through which their ideas can be implemented, they need to believe that the party isn’t racist.

So they deny the party’s racist history, that its post-1964 success was a direct result of attracting whites disillusioned by the Democrats’ embrace of civil rights. And they deny that to this day, Republican voters are driven more by white resentment than by a principled commitment to the free market and individual liberty."


I thought he was supposed to be smart.

"“When Marco [Rubio] lost, I went through the five stages of grief. It was tough. I had to spend some time thinking about what to do for the next several years of my life,” he says."
He needs a grief counsellor.

But not one of these writers, smart as they are, has been able to explain what actual political constituency could bring about this pure conservatism in practice. The fact is that limited government conservatism is not especially appealing to nonwhite Americans, whereas liberalism and social democracy are. The only ones for whom conservatism is a natural fit are Roy’s “cranky old white people” — and they’re dying off.
The GOP will be replaced by a new political party, but there is no constituency for it."
Seriously, this is supposed to be the smartest guy in the room? Roy moved to a White country, because he believed in White principles, and wanted to live in the sort of society only Whites can produce, but by God, we can't let the Whites have any say in it!
He's not grieving, he's run into cognitive dissonance at 80mph.

Anonymous 21 Jump Sheet July 01, 2017 12:36 PM  

Indians are being doing the needful conservatings Americans just won't do. (weird head wobble)

Anonymous Deplorable me July 01, 2017 12:38 PM  

Last night I was watching a podcast by Anthony Brian Logan on the death of the democrat party. He made lots of good points, especially with his quasi eulogy at the end.


https://youtu.be/WP5fHrXr5cY

Blogger James Dixon July 01, 2017 12:45 PM  

> ...he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio.

The only one of those worth the powder to blow him to hell is Perry, who is at least competent.

> The Grand Old Party is going to die.

If that's what it takes, that's fine by us.

The Democratic party is already imploding as it finally openly embraces the hatred of white Christians it has kept hidden for so long. The GOPe will follow suit in due course.

> ...but it is frankly shocking to hear from a prominent conservative thinker.

Since when? I've never heard of the guy before today. But then he's saying bad things about white people, so I guess that makes him a "prominent conservative thinker" for the left.

> This revisionism, according to Roy, points to a much bigger conservative delusion: They cannot admit that their party’s voters are motivated far more by white identity politics than by conservative ideals.

Admit it? We embrace it. We're tired of being everyone's punching bag, of being the only people who aren't allowed to act in their own best interests.

The party will embrace it too, or it will die. Avik would rather have it die. I'd rather have him go back.

> Recently Avik said positive things about the Republican health care bill online...

The only thing positive to say about the current bill is that it at least repeals about 10% or so of Obamacare. That's better than nothing, but not by much.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 12:45 PM  

7. Anonymous Avik's Buddy July 01, 2017 12:27 PM
That article is from last year. Recently Avik said positive things about the Republican health care bill online and received death threats, so you can see how well that respectable conservatism is working out for him.


i might actually care if he wasnt just another Fake American here to loot like the rest of them while spouting the same old drivel about "equality for all Americans"

Blogger Mama Pepe July 01, 2017 12:47 PM  

can't tell whether the song You Gotta Go Back, Fake American, or Cuckservative fits better here, but why choose?

thanks for shining the light on this darkness

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCltLko40xS64_fR0lfNYazQ

Blogger bosscauser July 01, 2017 12:48 PM  

He's backed three losing presidential candidate says it all!

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger SemiSpook37 July 01, 2017 12:48 PM  

And things like this are why I became unaffiliated with any party. I may caucus with Rs, but only because Ds are a chronic condition here, and I hate to openly commit a mortal sin if I vote for a D. Just makes it easier that way.

Blogger cheddarman July 01, 2017 12:50 PM  

Avik Roy comes from the Indian subcontinent. Those people lie all the damn time when it suits them. He needs to go back, along with any wife, children, parents, grandparents, cousins he brought with him to make a little India here in America.

Anonymous view July 01, 2017 12:51 PM  

It seems to me the weakest least desirable white people like say BKGB will die off and the strongest will survive probably just as its mostly always been also the weakest least desirable black hispanic italian jewish etc will die off too.

Anonymous DaveP. July 01, 2017 12:54 PM  

"...he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio."

And yet some idiot at Vox thinks he speaks for Republicans?

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 01, 2017 1:00 PM  

Pence is the enemy. Total cuck as Indiana governor. Globalist. I expect he was the price Trump had to pay for dual-citizen Sheldon Adelson's "support", which really amounted to not throwing more money at Trump's opponents or (worse) behind Egg McMuffin. Pelosi, Amish Cuck Ryan and other assorted denizens of the black lagoon are talking about using the 25th amendment to remove Trump as they fear the potential disruption of special toppings for swamp pizzas.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 1:01 PM  

The reality is that Roy is going to become a Democrat, just like all the other so-called conservatives whose identity is non-white.

What about Dinesh D'Souza?

The GOP needs to become the white party, but it doesn't need to become the whites-only party. The democrats didn't have to pick to be 'the black party' or 'the hispanic party'. They have multiple people under one banner, for however much trouble that is.

So why does the GOP need it?

Anonymous Aphelion July 01, 2017 1:02 PM  

He must go home and take the pro-terror Cong Justin Amash with him.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 01, 2017 1:05 PM  

Roy's conservative scam is to prey upon the nice white ladies' fetish for niceness and goo goo that passes for nice white lady political rhetoric, nothing more so him and his goons can loot America while nice white ladies bask in virtue

Blogger DrAndroSF July 01, 2017 1:06 PM  

Well and truly said.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 1:09 PM  

What about Dinesh D'Souza?

He's a criminal foreigner. He has to go back.

Anonymous Ex-Yankee July 01, 2017 1:10 PM  

Tribal, avaricious, penurious, duplicitous infiltrators...

No, not (((them))).

I mean dot-Indians.

Ever do business with these street-shitters? My advice: Don't.

Blogger Dirtnapninja July 01, 2017 1:13 PM  

I think he's somewhat correct. The Dems are headed for a period of dominance. That being said, I think the reigning ideology of the Dems is Black power. Black power is too narcissistic and megalomaniacal to hold together their antiwhite coalition. What will happen is white flight from the party hierarchy, and a new jewish and neocon dominated globalist centrist party that attracts people from dems and repubs and draws in the Asians.

The Dems will be dominated by blacks for generation, then the mestizos will take it over.

Anonymous DonReynolds July 01, 2017 1:15 PM  

I do not know what year it happened, but it must have been fairly recently, when civic nationalism became "conservative". It must have been about the same time that the Religious Right decided to call themselves "conservative". Heck, even baseball players and cab drivers refer to themselves as "conservative" these days. Of course, they are not and they never were.

Thinking back...this sort of nonsense must have originated with George H.W. Bush and his Compassionate Conservatism. Jack Kemp even lost his mind there at the last. (He had been a good conservative before, but turned into a rabid do-gooder.)

Of course, there are no egalitarian conservatives and a commitment to equality has NEVER been a conservative principle. But maybe there is a silver lining around this nonsense. The egalitarians may have planted the seed to end the recent mania for democracy. If everyone is equal, it really does not matter if they vote or not. After all.....everyone is the same, voting is expensive, so maybe we only need a sample of voting preferences instead of trying for a census. Democracy then becomes a costly device, when all we need is a few good solid Democrats to vote for everybody else. After all...they are rich, Ivy League educated, childless, have more time to devote, and they enjoy golf. So why bother everyone else with the nitty gritty of policy and government? Just let the wonks on the staff figure it out.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 01, 2017 1:17 PM  

Black Nationalist dominated political party, and of course anti-white and soon to be even more explicit if Trump's vote fraud commission plays hard ball

Anonymous JAG July 01, 2017 1:17 PM  

Dirtnapninja wrote:I think he's somewhat correct. The Dems are headed for a period of dominance.

What do you base this on? The Dems have been losing at all levels consistently. They are also 0-4 in special elections since the Ascendance.

Anonymous Godfrey July 01, 2017 1:18 PM  

... and Israel still has a wall.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 1:18 PM  

@ #24 - i much rather see you die off than BGKB

(whoever you are)

Anonymous johnc July 01, 2017 1:19 PM  

What about Dinesh D'Souza?

What about him? He's a degenerate.

And he thinks all those whites in the rust belt don't need no stinking jobs. So he couldn't even win us an election if he tried.

Anonymous Godfrey July 01, 2017 1:19 PM  

Conservatives conserve nothing.

Not even bathrooms for little girls.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 01, 2017 1:19 PM  

Dinesh D'Souza?

The Stars and Stripes Foreigner is a pretty good march.

Anonymous Rebel Gamer July 01, 2017 1:20 PM  

Notice the money quote "Republican Party has lost its right to govern"

You can always spot the foreigner. They think with the Mandate of Heaven mindset. They truly don't get America. They don't understand us. They don't belong here. Its nothing personal, its just that our way of life is foreign to them.
They have to go back.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 01, 2017 1:22 PM  

Democrats:

They have multiple people under one banner, for however much trouble that is.

Heh. That tower of Babel has been working out great since they expelled their white male engineers.

Blogger Dave July 01, 2017 1:22 PM  

He's backed three losing presidential candidate says it all!

Or might it be said those were the candidates that chose to hire him; Avik, the establishment conservative.

Blogger Dirtnapninja July 01, 2017 1:25 PM  

JAG wrote:What do you base this on? The Dems have been losing at all levels consistently. They are also 0-4 in special elections since the Ascendance.

Long term demographics. They will soon have enough mexican and asian colonists in place to flip the needed states to win.

The Dems long term strategy will pay off soon. But it wont keep em in power for the length of time they are hoping.

Blogger Dave July 01, 2017 1:26 PM  

like say BKGB will die off

Get outta here, BBGKB is a survivor.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 1:29 PM  

Serious question here. What has Dinesh done that's rotten? I thought he was pro-Trump and everything.

I know Ben Shapiro talks a good game against SJWs at times but in the end is a jackass. Is Dinesh pro-amnesty or pro-H1B?

Anonymous view July 01, 2017 1:30 PM  

As a Christian i am led to strengthen and help the weaker vessels. And i get serious joy from that being fully aware of my weaknesses. Jesus said said whatsoever u do to the least of these my brethren you do to me...Be one of the Bretheren

Anonymous Eduardo the Magnificent July 01, 2017 1:30 PM  

Propaganda piece.

“I don’t think the Republican Party and the conservative movement are capable of reforming themselves in an incremental and gradual way”

Oh noes! The GOP won't change for change's sake! Stubborn bastards!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 1:35 PM  

Dave wrote:like say BKGB will die off

Get outta here, BBGKB is a survivor.

Steve'll kick his ass. Hey, view, how's it feel to have a big gay koran burner kick your ass?

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 1:39 PM  

Dinesh DeSouza -

best of the lot. put himself on the line going after a ngger who thought he was king.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 01, 2017 1:39 PM  

@ dissidentright,

You're right, the forces in play now are compelling white factions to move together even as "the coalition of the fringes'" factions are moving toward fratricide.

All of what passes for mainstream political analysis is hopelessly blind to the change that has occurred.

I keep hoping that what occurs is that the blacks, browns, LGBTs, cucks and inveterate leftists all turn on each other and go to literal war. Mopping up the survivors would be good sport.

Anonymous Anonymous July 01, 2017 1:41 PM  

Absolutely correct. The current movement behind Trump isn't a white nationalist movement, it is a quintessentially American movement. Now it just so happens that America's roots are Anglo-European, which is primarily caucasian, but that's not primarily what motivates this movement. The movement is aimed at preserving America as we know it, and that includes preservation of the American people as we know them.

Roy also needs to stop using the left's language. It makes him sound like a cuck.

Blogger Phat Repat July 01, 2017 1:43 PM  

All Dots must depart, it's only a matter of time. Prepare accordingly.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 01, 2017 1:43 PM  

Long term demographics.

You mean the party with the most deportable members who racially loathe at least one of its other factions? Those long-term demogrsphics?

Blogger ZhukovG July 01, 2017 1:43 PM  

Indians(dot) make Jews look like 'volunteer for the first wave to hit Omaha Beach, God fearing, Flag saluting, Yankee Doodle Dandies'.

I have known in my entire life only one Indian(dot) that I would let stay, and he wants to go back.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 1:44 PM  

As a Christian i am led to strengthen and help the weaker vessels.

maybe he likes himself just fine the way he is, you arrogant prick

Blogger rumpole5 July 01, 2017 1:45 PM  

I think what many of the commentators hereto are overlooking in your blanket condemnation of nonwhites is that a number of nonwhites (the bloggers Jayman and our gracious host are examples) have realized that a critical mass of whites originating west of the Hajnal line are essential to western style civilization. The rest of the world is clannish and tribal. So long as we maintain a critical mass of this critical Human stock no one needs to go home. We just need to realize our place in the natural order and stop engaging in destructive equalitarian fantasy.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 01, 2017 1:46 PM  

What do you base this on? The Dems have been losing at all levels consistently.

Well, if they aren't winning or about to start winning, there might be cause for mild optimism, and that would just be weird.

Blogger Phat Repat July 01, 2017 1:48 PM  

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Blogger dc.sunsets July 01, 2017 1:48 PM  

Orwellian levels of doublethink abound.

How metaphorically massive is the STUPID to think that a stew of dot-Indians, Mestizos, East Asians, Africans, MENAs, etc can maintain what Anglo-Saxon Protestants built?

What is a "country" but the cumulative culture of its residents, and who is so f-ing naive to think a Brazil-level of multi-mixing can yield an orderly, peaceful, productive society?

None exists.
None has ever existed.
The USA was unique. And that country is DEAD and gone.

Blogger dc.sunsets July 01, 2017 1:50 PM  

It seems many cucks think the future is somehow the past.

I hate to break it to them; my Norman Rockwell youth was buried under 50 years of alien cultural imports.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 1:51 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:So long as we maintain a critical mass of this critical Human stock no one needs to go home.
Too late. That critical mass is gone. We're at less than 60%. If they don't start going back, what we had is gone forever.

Blogger Phat Repat July 01, 2017 1:51 PM  

With CT, ME, and IL in dire straits (and CA, WA, MD... not far behind), the coming destruction of the $IMFS will naturally repatriate the vast majority of invaders. The coming together of Whites will further hasten their departure. So there is a silver lining to financial chaos, even as pain will be broadly distributed.

Anonymous johnc July 01, 2017 1:56 PM  

@46 What has Dinesh done that's rotten?

Well he entered into an engagement with somebody who was already married while also being married himself with a teen daughter. Now I know such degeneracy was well-tolerated in the earlier times of the GOP, but going forward the Alt-Right is going to quickly de-platform individuals like this.

In terms of politics he was solidly Conservative, Inc. Pro-free trade, etc. I see his as a very typical, old-school CPAC-style conservative.

Blogger Achilles July 01, 2017 1:57 PM  

Avik Roy... wasn't he the Oompa Loompa in the Willy Wonka remake?

Blogger Nick S July 01, 2017 1:58 PM  

2018 is going to be a referendum on stupid. The squshy middle is dead. It's classic good vs. evil. We need a clean sweep to wake up the moderate wafflers to the idiocy of their fractious petulance. The middle ground is going to be a killing field.

Anonymous Flakman July 01, 2017 1:59 PM  

Coup in the works?

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/carl-bernstein-calls-for-different-kind-of-reporting-to-take-on-malignant-presidency/article/2627631

"I think something much greater is happening, and that is that we are in the midst of a malignant presidency," Bernstein said Friday. He added that leaders in the military, intelligence community and the Republican leadership know of the "malignancy" and has them "worried."

"They are worried about his character. They are worried about his capabilities. They are worried about his temperament and state of his temperament, to use kind words here," he said.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article159164854.html

Republicans are growing concerned that the staffs of Donald Trump and Mike Pence are starting to feud, the latest trouble to hit a White House that has spent monthsbattling crisis after crisis.


Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article159164854.html#storylink=cpy
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4655964/Democrats-lay-foundation-remove-Trump-mental-grounds.html

A Democratic congressman has proposed convening a special committee of psychiatrists and other doctors whose job would be to determine if President Donald Trump is fit to serve in the Oval Office.

Maryland Rep. Jamie Raskin, who also teaches constitutional law at American University, has predictably failed to attract any Republicans to his banner.

But the U.S. Constitution's 25th Amendment does allow for a majority of the president's cabinet, or 'such other body as Congress may by law provide,' to decide if an Oval Office occupant is unable to carry out his duties – and then to put it to a full congressional vote.

Vice President Mike Pence would also have to agree, which could slow down the process – or speed it up if he wanted the levers of power for himself.

Blogger wrf3 July 01, 2017 2:02 PM  

James Dixon wrote:We're tired of being everyone's punching bag, of being the only people who aren't allowed to act in their own best interests.
Is it in our own best interest to act in (insert "our" group's name here) best interest, or is in in our own best interest to act in everyone's best interest? Tribal behavior is, in the long term, short-sighted, especially as the world continues to shrink.

Blogger wrf3 July 01, 2017 2:05 PM  

cheddarman wrote:Avik Roy comes from the Indian subcontinent. Those people lie all the damn time when it suits them.
That's because they're acting in their own self-interest with a short time-preference and a small in-group.

Blogger Johnny July 01, 2017 2:09 PM  

DDT wrote:The GOP needs to become the white party, but it doesn't need to become the whites-only party.

My preference would be to sort through people based on ability and initiative. But if things do spin out of control the likely outcome will be fanaticism, and fine tuning things will not be possible.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. July 01, 2017 2:19 PM  

Is it in our own best interest to act in (insert "our" group's name here) best interest, or is in in our own best interest to act in everyone's best interest? Tribal behavior is, in the long term, short-sighted, especially as the world continues to shrink.

End table + kite flying = round squares. Discombobulatory sardines, though. Especially purple!

#Amen

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 2:22 PM  

The GOP needs to become the white party, but it doesn't need to become the whites-only party.

The problem is the vast majority of the vibrants, even the ones smart enough to understand, just can't set aside their tribal loyalty when push comes to shove. Whether it's Black voters who normally vote GOP going in droves for Obama, or Dots like this Roy character badmouthing White people saying enough is enough we don't want any more foreigners, you can't rely on them to stand by you.

Like Vox said on the darkstream the other night - they have identity complications. Avik Roy is not White and he didn't grow up in the society us White Americans want to restore, so he doesn't give a damn about our agenda. He's just here for the opportunity, and if our ideas for the society we want interferes with his or his clan's opportunity, he's going to oppose us.

Which is normal. It should not surprise us that this happens.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 01, 2017 2:24 PM  

The GOP will become the American Identity party, just like the civic nationalists want.

People of Color will not join it. They have no interest in identifying as American.

Just as only an Englishman can enjoy the rights of Englishmen, only Americans will dorectly benefit from American nationalists.

Blogger VD July 01, 2017 2:24 PM  

The GOP needs to become the white party, but it doesn't need to become the whites-only party.

It does. And it will.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 2:28 PM  

Tribal behavior is, in the long term, short-sighted, especially as the world continues to shrink.

Yeah, and peace is better than war, but unilateral disarmament is still moronic. We've spent most of the last century being non-tribal and all that happened is the rest of the tribes in the world used it as an opportunity to rip us off.

So we're done with it. If sometime in the future any of the non-white people of the world start to show some inclination towards non-tribal behavior, maybe we'll consider giving it another go. But I ain't holding my breath.

Anonymous AlanP July 01, 2017 2:28 PM  

From the article:

But not one of these writers, smart as they are, has been able to explain what actual political constituency could bring about this pure conservatism in practice.

The Vox writer makes more sense than Avik Roy does. That tells you something right there.

Anonymous Smithie July 01, 2017 2:33 PM  

"Since when was the primary objective of the Republican Party, the USA, or the Constitution "a true commitment to equality for all Americans""

Does he mean equality of outcome or equal opportunity or equality under the law? Three different things, but it's unclear what he means.

Anonymous Smithie July 01, 2017 2:38 PM  

"The GOP needs to become the white party, but it doesn't need to become the whites-only party"

Recent voting patterns suggest it already is.

Blogger Koanic July 01, 2017 2:40 PM  

You awful raciss. I vote Dinesh D'Souza for president

of India.

Anonymous Pitcrew July 01, 2017 2:41 PM  

The cucks just won't learn.

Pres. Trump won 58% of whites, 29% of asians/ hispanics and 8% of blacks. In the age of identity politics this is everything. Despite Trump campaign policies being obviously more pro-Afr.American than pro-Asian/Hispanic the blacks still rejected him. In my view this frees the GOP up to do two things. 1) Halt all immigration and remove the newcomers to reduce any population growth from these demographics. 2) Enable police forces to do their jobs. This is going to mean many more blacks in prison. 3) Support more "pro-White" legislation, such as removing all H1B, H2B, H5 work visas and halting out-sourcing (which fake-American 'libertarians' use to essentially commit treason).

The GOP needs to forget the blacks, they'll never convince them. The Asians and Hispanics have indicated that a little over 1/4 will actually support more nativist policies, which is amazing. The cucks however are trying to undue any gains and will try to give up 10% of the white vote (15 m votes) for maybe 5% more Asian or Hispanic votes (maybe 3 m votes), as well as open borders that speed up the demographic destruction of the country. From a purely realpolitik point of view it makes more sense getting White votes than any other. Its also in the best interests of the USA. Cucks are either treasonous or insane.

Blogger Cecil Henry July 01, 2017 2:44 PM  

'The irony, as usual, is that Roy is practicing the very identity politics he decries. He's opposed to American nationalism because he isn't an American, he's just a paperwork facsimile'

This is the issue: in America, in Canada, in every Western nation.

Happy 'Canada Day'. I guess:

https://ddswaterloo.wordpress.com/2017/02/09/a-dialogue-on-canadas-150th-anniversary/

Blogger ace July 01, 2017 2:55 PM  

Having the 'moral authority to govern' means letting Avik Roy and 100m of his closest friends from Bangalore govern in your place. Then you will have moral authority. Finally.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 2:56 PM  

The problem is the vast majority of the vibrants, even the ones smart enough to understand, just can't set aside their tribal loyalty when push comes to shove. Whether it's Black voters who normally vote GOP going in droves for Obama, or Dots like this Roy character badmouthing White people saying enough is enough we don't want any more foreigners, you can't rely on them to stand by you.

Black voters almost never vote for the GOP, and as near as I can tell, Obama didn't change that much. What changed was their turnout. 6% of blacks went for Romney in 2012 from what I see. Trump got what, 8% of blacks?

I agree largely about the tribal loyalty.

Maybe I misunderstand what it means to be 'the white party'? You don't mean some pure white ethnostate do you?

Blogger Solaire Of Astora July 01, 2017 2:56 PM  

It's a trip how 'intelligent' people can look at an inevitability like the rise of nationalism and instead of reacting prudentially and preparing themselves accordingly, they hand wring and whine about their baseless principles. What a waste of energy.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 2:56 PM  

DDT wrote:Serious question here. What has Dinesh done that's rotten? I thought he was pro-Trump and everything.

1) He is a dirty immigrant. He has to go back.
2) He is a convicted felon. He really has to go back.

3) He loves to attack traditional Americans and our history. See the attack movie he released last year. Going back while handcuffed and wearing a hood in the belly of an Air Force transport headed to SW Asia would be best.

Blogger Elder Son July 01, 2017 2:57 PM  

JAG wrote:Dirtnapninja wrote:I think he's somewhat correct. The Dems are headed for a period of dominance.

What do you base this on? The Dems have been losing at all levels consistently. They are also 0-4 in special elections since the Ascendance.


Forget about the dumbocrats and repukocrats. They are all Globalists/Babelists. All with their views and methods to its finality.

Blogger Sheila4g July 01, 2017 3:09 PM  

@57 rumpole5: ". . . a number of nonwhites (the bloggers Jayman and our gracious host are examples) have realized that a critical mass of whites originating west of the Hajnal line are essential to western style civilization."

Jayman has married a White woman and produced two mulattoes. His vibrant family is enriching the heavily White state of Maine. He is an absolute determinist, proclaiming parental influence is utterly irrelevant. So your favorite IKAGO embodies precisely which all American virtues and characteristics?

Blogger tuberman July 01, 2017 3:13 PM  

To survive the Republicans need to be two things:

A) Be outspoken Nationalists, or believe in America first.
B) Secondary, they should also be pro-Western Civilization.

The GOP globalists will be destroyed, some sooner, some later. Less and less room for hyphenated Americans of all sorts.

Blogger ace July 01, 2017 3:13 PM  

A just punishment for a trickster deity would be taking one of these paper Americans and making them President of the POC States of America, where there are no white people. Eight years later they come out of the dream, finding only five minutes have passed.

Blogger Nick S July 01, 2017 3:14 PM  

@86 "Babelists." That's the perfect descriptor.

Blogger Dirtnapninja July 01, 2017 3:15 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Long term demographics.

You mean the party with the most deportable members who racially loathe at least one of its other factions? Those long-term demogrsphics?


Which is why I am saying their dominance wont last. Black arrogance will drive out the whites and jews who are the glue of the party. The Asians will leave because the Dems will become a low social status party. The mexicans will not tolerate black dominance for long, and will eventually take the party over for themselves.

I think a division is coming in the dems..the neo-liberal globalists and the marxists cannot live long under the same roof.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 01, 2017 3:24 PM  

The cucks just won't learn.

Pres. Trump won 58% of whites, 29% of asians/ hispanics and 8% of blacks.


And the funny thing is, if any other candidate had been running in his place, the cucks would be bragging about that 29% and 8% and saying the GOP just needs to do more outreach to those groups, even if the candidate got only 52% of whites and lost the election.

It really is all about trying not to be called racist.

Blogger tu July 01, 2017 3:25 PM  

The Left instinctively fears Trump's populism and Civic Nationalism because they understand, on some level, that this will take on the character and values of its most energetic and influential supporters; because of this it will collapse into a kind of White Christian nationalism.

Blogger tuberman July 01, 2017 3:27 PM  

Lots of cracks in the DNC voting block already, that's why many don't show up to vote. The fractures are innate to their coalition of competing victims.

Anonymous BBGKB July 01, 2017 3:27 PM  

Avik Roy is a Republican’s Republican.

Avik Roy is a shitskined Republican that cries like a leftist

Just look at San Francisco and their recent decriminalization of shitting in the streets.

Don't forget LA, NYC, and now Denver.

It seems to me the weakest least desirable white people like say BKGB will die off

Faggots that post links to how to build an underground greenhouse for $300 are more resilient than you think. https://besurvival.com/homesteading/build-a-300-underground-greenhouse-walipini-that-grows-food-year-round

have realized that a critical mass of whites originating west of the Hajnal line are essential to western style civilization. The rest of the world is clannish and tribal.

We haven't had that critical mass for decades. It took US 60 years to go from Wright Bros to the moon but less than 20 years of affirmative action to go from teaching latin in high school to remedial biology at Harvard Med.

OT: Turns out I really am an outlier.
92% of Portlandia gays are crazy. "92 Percent of LGBT People Seek Treatment for One or More Mental or Physical Disorders"
http://salem-news.com/articles/june262014/lgbt-report-kh.php

Anonymous Grayman July 01, 2017 3:32 PM  

Avik Roy FAKE AMERICAN.

A white honkey in Beijing is not chinese. A white honkey in Addis Ababa is no ethiopian. The Mexicans, africans, asians, are NOT Americans. They have to go back, all of them.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 3:40 PM  

Chris Mallory

Blow an AIDS victim, cuck. I'm asking sane people here, not you.

Vibrants will take care of you just fine, and the right will laugh when it happens.

Anonymous JAG July 01, 2017 3:41 PM  

@67 Flakman

That is a recycled playbook from the Reagan years. It didn't work then, and it isn't going to work now.

Blogger Billy Ray July 01, 2017 3:54 PM  

OMG this white nationalist bullshit is right out of the 1920s KKK that was controlled by who? DEMOCRATS. so you fuck tards who want to turn the Republican party into a white party are no different than 1920s DEMOCRATS so YOU ARE THE ONES TURNING THE REP PARTY INTO DEMOCRATS gawd, you fucktards are stupid. thinking that white Nancy Pelosi is better than black Tm Scott simply because of the color of her skin..cause white is best right? so that means pelosi has to be better than scott right?

Anonymous BBGKB July 01, 2017 3:58 PM  

Vibrants will take care of you just fine, and the right will laugh when it happens.

https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/9409579

OT:Bring out your dead
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2017/06/27/untitled-n2347272

Democratic Voter Fraud: Liberal Student Sentenced For Registering Dead People To Vote

Blogger Elder Son July 01, 2017 3:59 PM  

Nancy isn't a Nationalist. More in line with your Babelist thinking Ray.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 4:01 PM  

Black voters almost never vote for the GOP, and as near as I can tell,

Look harder. GOP share of Black vote in presidential elections:

1980: 12%
1984: 9%
1988: 10%
1992: 11%
1996: 12%
2000: 8%
2004: 11%
2008: 4%
2012: 6%
2016: 8%

So, elections with no Black dem candidate, average GOP share of Black vote = 10.125%. Election with a Black dem candidate, average GOP share of Black vote = 5%.

Over half of Blacks who consider themselves Republicans would, did, and will again, vote for someone of their own race if that person is running against their nominal political party.

Maybe I misunderstand what it means to be 'the white party'? You don't mean some pure white ethnostate do you?

FFS, this ain't that hard. The demographic composition of 1950's America with no forced integration is a good starting point. There are people who think that's not far enough, but they are generally willing to give it a shot first to see if it would be stable.

And if you keep using the work ethnostate, then you have to go back.

Anonymous Full-Fledged Fiasco July 01, 2017 4:07 PM  

"...he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio."

A total loser then.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 4:07 PM  

DDT wrote:Chris Mallory

Blow an AIDS victim, cuck. I'm asking sane people here, not you.

Vibrants will take care of you just fine, and the right will laugh when it happens.


Cuck? What peter have you been puffing?

Vibrants? I live in a section of the country with very few vibrants. They tend to stay away from white men with guns. Now run along and do what ever it is you swarthy types do.

Blogger Allen Skeens July 01, 2017 4:12 PM  

Or a 1920s republican,or a 1780s American. Whatever.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 4:12 PM  

Cuck Mallory cucked cuckingly,

Vibrants? I live in a section of the country with very few vibrants. They tend to stay away from white men with guns.

Which is why Texas is as white as can be, right?

As I said: the vibrants will take care of you just fine, and the right will laugh its ass off when that happens. Just as they always do: http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2017/03/white_social_justice_warrior_dies_at_hands_of_black_killer_.html

Now return to your mulatto boyfriend. Men are talking.

Blogger rumpole5 July 01, 2017 4:12 PM  

If you are young and white I suggest that you put down the phone (or mouse) and nail, boff and/or schlong your significant other. Do it for the USA!

Blogger rumpole5 July 01, 2017 4:17 PM  

Non whites JayMan and Vox Day ARE showing non tribal behavior.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 4:20 PM  

82. Blogger ace July 01, 2017 2:55 PM
Having the 'moral authority to govern' means letting Avik Roy and 100m of his closest friends from Bangalore govern in your place. Then you will have moral authority. Finally.


no, then they move the goalposts again

Anonymous johnc July 01, 2017 4:22 PM  

The media are hilarious.

"Don't worry guys...! They're just moderate Republicans...! But different... and going to have a profound impact on politics... and uh... change the world..."

http://nypost.com/2017/07/01/why-the-next-generation-after-millennials-will-vote-republican/

"Just look at this fine, young, upstanding, pro-diversity Trump supporting gentleman. Wait is that uhh... a Huge Boss uniform in your closet?"

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club July 01, 2017 4:22 PM  

Roy believes the great error for the Republican party was Goldwater's opposition to the CRA, and that "limited government principles but genuinely appeals to a more diverse America" is possible in our modern Babel. He claims to be a "conservative intellectual", but he is neither, but he is perfect for a Vox writer to use as a shield to claim "we have literally no experience in America of a politically viable conservative movement unmoored from white supremacy".

Traitors are more dangerous than any other opponent out there.

Blogger Mr Darcy July 01, 2017 4:22 PM  

@47:
Eat the Bretheren's shite.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 4:22 PM  

Jack,

Over half of Blacks who consider themselves Republicans would, did, and will again, vote for someone of their own race if that person is running against their nominal political party.

I don't see "who consider themselves Republican" anywhere, and counting them as that just because of how they voted is a mistake. There'd be independents there.

I have zero doubt whatsoever that plenty of blacks voted for Obama just because he was black. But the stats you show don't really prove I was wrong to say blacks almost never vote Republican - in the best of times they were voting 10-12% for the GOP.

FFS, this ain't that hard.

You're acting like one of those huffy SJWs who make a show of getting their panties in a twist when someone asks them a question.

1950s demographics? Fine. Checking out the first stats I see for that time, that's around 89% white. Not exactly a pure white ethnostate now is it?

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 4:24 PM  

Non whites JayMan and Vox Day ARE showing non tribal behavior.

A person does not a people make.

Blogger Mr Darcy July 01, 2017 4:26 PM  

@57:

What you're overlooking is that you have to go back.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 4:27 PM  

DDT wrote:Now return to your mulatto boyfriend. Men are talking.

Now Spanky, where did you get the idea that I was some type of SJW? You must be sucking off some crackhead.

I did spend some time in Texas. Got out as soon as I could, not a good place for a white man. No trees or hills, at least where I was at. Plus Texas had a population of wetbacks as soon as it was admitted to the union.

If you are one of the "men", well that explains a whole lot. Now run along like a good little dindu.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 01, 2017 4:29 PM  

Actually nothing wrong with whites, nor should any political consultant engage in racial demonization of an entire racial group like Roy.

If you want to win go on offense.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 4:31 PM  

Cuck Mallory cucked cuckingly,

Now Spanky, where did you get the idea that I was some type of SJW?

The D-grade trolling. Getting your panties in a twist because someone made a video attacking Hillary Clinton is kind of a dead giveaway.

Enjoy the life with AIDS. It'll be cut short by a vibrant tossing you off a rooftop soon enough, I'm sure.

Blogger Mr Darcy July 01, 2017 4:31 PM  

@68:

If you're so far-sighted, then you should be able to see that you have to go back.

Blogger Mr Darcy July 01, 2017 4:33 PM  

@69:

No, it's because they are dot-heads.

Blogger Anthony July 01, 2017 4:33 PM  

The Republican Party (and conservatism) isn't the White Party, it's the Acting-White Party. They want the blessings of liberty for anyone who *acts* white, whatever the actual color of their skin.

But most non-whites don't want to act white. A few do - people like Clarence Thomas and Thomas Sowell are naturally at the acting-white-end of the spectrum of black behavior, and they're smart enough to see the benefits in doing what already comes pretty naturally *to them*. But it's most of a struggle for most black people, even the really smart ones. (And Hispanics and Asians, etc.)

But most people can see that blacks (etc.) don't *want* to act white, and quite often *can't*. And if they're Democrats, they say that trying to make black people act white is racist. And they kind of have a point, because it really is a big imposition to ask.

If things break down to the point of large-scale violence, there will be forced separation of whites from non-whites. But if we muddle through with only some riots here and there - remember the 60s and 70s were pretty violent, but did not result in a collapse - the distinction for most people won't be skin color. It will be whether you act white, or not.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 4:36 PM  

2) He is a convicted felon. He really has to go back.

for some reason you dont mention the specifics. iirc it was a political hit job from the obongo administration in retaliation for the movie Dinesh produced

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 4:38 PM  

DDT, I answered your questions, as ignorant as they were. Predictably, doing that has made no impression on you at all.

Let's see. You lied ("Black voters almost never vote for the GOP" - 10% do, when there's no Black democrat in the race), doubled down ("...the stats you show don't really prove I was wrong to say blacks almost never vote Republican..." when the stats prove Blacks are twice... well, what I said above), and finally projected ("You're acting like one of those huffy SJWs...").

Does Vox pay you people to make him look so right?

89% White. Not exactly a pure white ethnostate now is it?

You're the one who keeps using that word (you have to back now, BTW). 89% White is fine with me.

Blogger rumpole5 July 01, 2017 4:38 PM  

The reason Whites are essential appears to be their unique non clannish, outsider tolerating, techinally adept, high IQ genetic predispositions. Culture and parental influence only accounts for about 20% of the outcome. JayMan realizes these facts and has done a lot to show why Western whites are essential, and how our American nations interact. I think that he, like Pocahontis' Virgina mongrel offspring, and our Cherokee tainted Appalachaian hillbillys, is definately a keeper. Pretty is as pretty does.

Blogger Mr Darcy July 01, 2017 4:43 PM  

@77:

The thing about a thing is that it has to exist to be one, and equality doesn't, so it ain't. Get it?

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 4:45 PM  

Wild guess, but DDT might not be white

Blogger Thucydides July 01, 2017 4:47 PM  

What is confusing a lot of people is the fact that the Republican Party (and the Democrat Party) have been dead for a while. Looking at the platforms of these parties and comparing them even to the 1990's (much less the Reagan revolution of the 1980's) and you see there is very little in common.

Political parties die and are replaced fairly quickly in historical terms (Ask the Canadian "Progressive" Party, the British "Unionists" or the American "Whigs" and "Federalists"). Generally, changes in demographics, technology or something else changes the underlying social and economic foundations and the political parties no longer have relevant answers to the questions of the day.

What the Dems did, and President Trump discovered is that in today's environment, branding is still critical, so rather than starting "The New American Party", Trump simply used the Elephant skin as a disguise. No one who has watched him in action, or even looked back at his pre political activities could say he is a "Republican", and a large part of the voting coalition which swept him to power are not "Republicans" either.

So the sorts of people who were abel to profit from the existing establishment are confused and resentful, since things are obviously no longer the way they were and their positions of power and influence are imperilled by these changes. Resentful never-trumpets, GOPe's, Cucks and so on found out the hard way once Trump won the nomination and self funded his campaign. There was no need for massive fundraising and they were cut off from the flow of an estimated *billion dollars* that conventional fundraising and politicking would have generated. Even skimming 1% of that would be a good payday, and we know that it would have been far, far more.

So the butthurt has some very real reasons behind it, and much of the opposition to the God Emperor is based on trying to regain the power structure and seats at the table that they had before. The longer that President Trump is in charge, the more difficult that will be, and even at the end of his first term, the political landscape may have changed out of recognition as working class Americans, Alt-Right, Alt-West and Alt-Lite come together, realizing there are no other places for them to go.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 4:49 PM  

Jack,

DDT, I answered your questions, as ignorant as they were.

"It's not my job to educate you," Jack shrieked.

Just dye your hair blue and demand people call you by your chosen pronouns while you're at it.

Let's see. You lied ("Black voters almost never vote for the GOP" - 10% do, when there's no Black democrat in the race),

If you want to pretend that ~10% is meaningfully different from "almost never", you're free to.

Does Vox pay you people to make him look so right?

I largely agree with Vox, so it'd be a waste of money. Apparently you think asking some questions is a some kind of anti-right signaling.

By the way, Jack: I'm a Christian, I'm white, and I'm a traditionalist. So I'll be staying, since this is my country. You, however, better get your ass to church and start praying, or you can get the fuck out. This country has no place for the flagrantly irreligious.

89% White is fine with me.

That's nice. Go to church, or get the fuck out.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 4:51 PM  

DDT wrote:Getting your panties in a twist because someone made a video attacking Hillary Clinton is kind of a dead giveaway.

Ok Spanky, take your head out of your ass. He didn't just attack Clinton. He spent much of his movie attacking traditional whites and our champions.

"The film briefly outlines the origins of the Democratic Party, then examines the blatant racism of one of its founders, President Andrew Jackson. It goes on to describe how Jackson and the Democratic Party passed and signed into law legislation that brutally expelled Native Americans from their land and created the reservation system. This is followed by an examination of the historical record of the Democratic Party in the North and South in supporting and defending the institution of slavery, and ensuring the spread of slavery into the western territories. It examines the founding of the Republican Party as a reaction to the support of slavery by the Democratic Party and their endorsement and defense of fugitive slave laws.
The film then examines the historical record of the Democratic Party, including their opposition to the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments to the United States Constitution, their close ties to the Ku Klux Klan in both the 19th and 20th century, including the support of Democratic President Woodrow Wilson for the KKK and racial segregation, their opposition to anti-lynching legislation, their manipulation of New Deal legislation in the 1930s to ensure African Americans would not benefit, and their opposition to the civil rights legislation of the 1960s which was passed with significantly greater support from the Republican Party than from the Democratic Party."

Sounds like the rantings of a "Democrats are the real racists" cuck.

Andrew Jackson was our 2nd greatest president, after William Henry Harrison, would that more follow his example. The KKK was a white defensive organization formed to fight against the terrorism of the Yankee invaders and their black minions. The Civil Rights Era was one long nightmare for white American, given to us by the "diverse" Republicans. MLK was a Republican, as they are so quick to tell us.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 4:53 PM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:Wild guess, but DDT might not be white

I would guess that he is rather swarthy.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Penguins Fan July 01, 2017 4:55 PM  

They aren't going to migrate to the Democrat Party. The Democrats are ethnically cleansing themselves of white people.

When US Uncivil War-I breaks out, the only function the churchian cuckies will serve is bullet catchers for whichever side gets to them first.

Blogger roughcoat July 01, 2017 4:57 PM  

BBGKB wrote:OT:Bring out your dead

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2017/06/27/untitled-n2347272

Democratic Voter Fraud: Liberal Student Sentenced For Registering Dead People To Vote


"A James Madison University student and Virginia native is facing at least 100 days in prison after a Virginia district court found him guilty of submitting 18 fabricated voter registration forms."

What is this faggotry? 100 days? I have no idea what "at least" means here, but if it's not "at least 100 days and actually going to be 10 years" Virginia is officially retarded.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 4:59 PM  

Ok Spanky, take your head out of your ass.

Don't you have some pills to take? That white blood cell count is important to keep up, Mallory.

But since you're desperate for attention, let's get to the heart of things.

Andrew Jackson was our 2nd greatest president, after William Henry Harrison, would that more follow his example. The KKK was a white defensive organization formed to fight against the terrorism of the Yankee invaders and their black minions. The Civil Rights Era was one long nightmare for white American, given to us by the "diverse" Republicans. MLK was a Republican, as they are so quick to tell us.

Andrew Jackson was, hands down, one of our best presidents. The KKK was founded on some legitimate grievances, but "white defensive" is bullshit. They hated various white immigrants. Say they had reason to hate them, and I'll be tempted to agree, but being anti-black or even pro-southern is not the same as being pro-white. They had another set of concerns.

The Civil Rights movement was complete shit, and fuck MLK.

Dinesh cutting an anti-Hillary video that plays the "Dems R Real Racist" card doesn't bug me too much, considering when and why it was made. Trump went around holding up fucking rainbow flags talking about how he loved the gays too. A mistake or a flaw does not mean irredeemable.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 5:06 PM  

Wild guess, but DDT might not be white

I'm a white Trump-supporter who's extremely sympathetic to the alt-right. But I think a pure white ethnostate (which some self-described alt-righters do say they want) is a mistaken idea. If Hillary Clinton is running against Dinesh D'Souza, the idea that I have to support Hillary is insane to me. I don't think that's the sentiment around here, so I asked some questions. I'm all on-board with the idea that we need to maintain a permanent white majority, and yes, that's going to mean a lot of people need to be sent packing.

Anonymous johnc July 01, 2017 5:07 PM  

This country has no place for the flagrantly irreligious.

That's why Dinesh D'Souza has to go back.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 5:08 PM  

DDT wrote:Andrew Jackson was, hands down, one of our best presidents. The KKK was founded on some legitimate grievances, but "white defensive" is bullshit. They hated various white immigrants. Say they had reason to hate them, and I'll be tempted to agree, but being anti-black or even pro-southern is not the same as being pro-white. They had another set of concerns.
Based on this, I'd say DDT is either Irish or Slav. Likely, "Irish Need Not Apply", "oh poor me, my grandparents were discwiminated against by WASPs" Boston Irish. There's a small chance he echoes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 5:09 PM  

DDT wrote:But I think a pure white ethnostate (which some self-described alt-righters do say they want) is a mistaken idea.
Then go bitch at them, fancy boy.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 5:14 PM  

Maybe DDT is dinesh

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 5:17 PM  

But I think a pure white ethnostate (which some self-described alt-righters do say they want) is a mistaken idea.

Yet you're so caught up in yourself that you mistakenly thought I was advocating that and had to go all gamma-rager on me. If you're going to be praying, you might want to pray for a little more wisdom and self-control. Especially if you don't want to be mistaken for a low-IQ, low-time-preference non-American.

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 5:18 PM  

Based on this, I'd say DDT is either Irish or Slav. Likely, "Irish Need Not Apply", "oh poor me, my grandparents were discwiminated against by WASPs" Boston Irish.

No, I think the anti-Irish/anti-Catholic animus was largely legitimate. Shit, look what those groups did since then. Look at Ted Kennedy. But unless you guys want to say the irish and slavs "weren't really white", it means calling the Klan a pro-white organization is wrong. What's next? The jews are pro-Catholic?

Good job on the prognostications though. Nothing but fruity predictions and misses. What's next? Suspecting I'm a rabbi? I asked some questions - that's a classic jew trick.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 5:20 PM  

Definitely gamma though.
"Pretty pretty me, I'm so clever!"

Anonymous DDT July 01, 2017 5:22 PM  

Yet you're so caught up in yourself that you mistakenly thought I was advocating that and had to go all gamma-rager on me.

No, I was asking some questions. You cunted off with standard SJW-style preening of "GAWD, this is SOOOO simple" theatrics. I didn't accuse anyone here of advocating for that. I asked some questions about the GOP being the "white party". And I asked what Dinesh did that sucked. Turns out, he did the standard cuckservative line. Typical, and a shame. Shapiro's worse.

Anyway, I better get back to the temple for sabbath celebrations with my homies, because I'm a golliwog jew rabbi hindu-dindu or whatever the fuck you guys suspect of anyone who asks a question.

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 5:23 PM  

DDT has to go back with Dinesh

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 5:24 PM  

Speaking of elections and ethnicities, in WA state, we have a special election this year to fill a vacancy in the State Senate. Its for the area around Microsoft's main campus.

The GOP are running a woman by the name of Jinyoung Lee Englund (clearly she must be Englush). The Democrats have nominated something called a Manka Dhingra. I have no idea what a Manka Dhingra is. Possibly it's in the original AD&D Monster Manual. If anyone has one, could you take a look please?

Blogger Josh (the gayest thing here) July 01, 2017 5:30 PM  

Possibly it's in the original AD&D Monster Manual. If anyone has one, could you take a look please?

I think it provides +3 gold when running a convenience store

Blogger Fenris Wulf July 01, 2017 5:33 PM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:

(((Avik Roy))) doesn't believe in American nationalism. What a surprise! But there is still Israel for Avik and his parasitic compatriots....


Bengali isn't Jewish


Do we need different symbols for each identity group, a la Googles, Yahoos, and Skypes? Like so:

|||Jesse Jackson||| (prison bars)
[[[Elton John]]] (closet doors)
***Reza Aslan*** (explosions)
???Brianna Wu??? (what is it?)
¡¡¡George Lopez!!! (¡Ole!)
///George Takei/// (eyes slant one way)
\\\Wen Ho Lee\\\ (eyes slant the other way)
^^^Leonard Peltier^^^ (teepees)
~~~John F. Kennedy~~~ (resembles an American, but not actually one)
\|^Tiger Woods^|\ (has complications)

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 5:35 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Possibly it's in the original AD&D Monster Manual. If anyone has one, could you take a look please?

1st ed. Fiend Folio page 65

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Blogger Dave July 01, 2017 5:44 PM  

Josh (the gayest thing here) wrote:Possibly it's in the original AD&D Monster Manual. If anyone has one, could you take a look please?

I think it provides +3 gold when running a convenience store


Pretty much what Joe Biden said.

Blogger Chris Mallory July 01, 2017 5:46 PM  

DDT wrote:Dinesh cutting an anti-Hillary video that plays the "Dems R Real Racist" card doesn't bug me too much, considering when and why it was made.

A prime bit of evidence showing that you have no roots in this nation and have to go back.

You claim to be a Christian, yet you started off with obscenities and personal attacks. That shoots a few holes in your claim.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 6:00 PM  

You cunted off with standard SJW-style preening of "GAWD, this is SOOOO simple" theatrics

It **is** simple. Most of the people yammering on about how complicated it is or about how they don't understand just what it means are doing so disingenously in an effort to convince people it's hopeless and the only choice is to keep going with the multi-culti crap.

That's why so many folks here are wondering what you might be, because you're asking the same questions that cuckservatives, prog trolls, and the identity-compromised always ask.

Ethnostate? Really? You keep using that word and you wonder why you catch flak?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 01, 2017 6:35 PM  

So, what's wrong with an ethnostate? The Japanese have one, it seems nice. The Jews have one. The Arabs have several.

Anonymous Simplytimothy July 01, 2017 6:36 PM  

--Vox Day--> (Indian, feather not dot)

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 01, 2017 6:44 PM  

85. Chris Mallory
Being tossed out of the transport over the ocean would be even better.

Blogger James Dixon July 01, 2017 6:47 PM  

> Coup in the works?

In their dreams, I'm sure. It's the same old lies as always.

> Is it in our own best interest to act in (insert "our" group's name here) best interest, or is in in our own best interest to act in everyone's best interest?

How do you know acting in our best interest isn't in everyone's best interest?

> Tribal behavior is, in the long term, short-sighted, especially as the world continues to shrink.

The last time I looked, the diameter of the world hadn't changed.

Blogger tz July 01, 2017 6:48 PM  

The cuckoos are upset the pidgeons have been replaced by eagles.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 6:57 PM  

louise mensch assured me Trump was going to prison

Anonymous davidd July 01, 2017 7:00 PM  

"he has worked for three Republican presidential hopefuls — Mitt Romney, Rick Perry, and Marco Rubio"

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 7:14 PM  

So, what's wrong with an ethnostate?

Nothing, except the people who keep talking about one are usually either Hitler-lovers or cucks who want to slander the Alt-Right by association with Hitler-lovers.

Anonymous Avalanche July 01, 2017 7:45 PM  

@15 "He needs a grief counsellor."

They have them in India. Go back! (Or is grief counseling cultural appropriation? From the jews, I'd guess?) Doesn't matter He must go back!

Anonymous Grayman July 01, 2017 7:51 PM  

Jack,

ANY one who supports omni-nationalism inherently supports ethno-states for every race/ethnic group.

Suggesting it has anything to do with hitler is idiotic and cucks are the ones afraid of omni-nationalism as its counter to the politically correct ideals

Anonymous Avalanche July 01, 2017 7:55 PM  

@52 "Roy also needs to stop using the left's language. It reveals him to be a cuck."

FIFY

Anonymous Avalanche July 01, 2017 8:01 PM  

@59 "The rest of the world is clannish and tribal. So long as we maintain a critical mass of this critical Human stock no one needs to go home. We just need to realize our place in the natural order and stop engaging in destructive equalitarian fantasy."

No.

So long as we maintain a critical mass of this critical Human stock *EVERYONE STILL* needs to go home. *THEY* just need to realize our (AND THEIR) place in the natural order and stop engaging in destructive equalitarian fantasy.

WE are the golden geese who built, build, and maintain (White!) Western civilization! There IS no "critical mass" of US if the not-US swamp our lands! IF they wish to benefit by OUR developments, inventions, discoveries, and ways of life -- then THEY need to get the hell OUT Of our countries, out of our ways, and try to the very best of their meagre abilities to do what we do -- NOT TO LIVE OFF WE HAVE DONE!

Anonymous jOHN MOSBY July 01, 2017 8:06 PM  

Heat Street is kill as of August 4.
AWWW, that's too bad.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 8:12 PM  

ANY one who supports omni-nationalism inherently supports ethno-states for every race/ethnic group.

Suggesting it has anything to do with hitler is idiotic and cucks are the ones afraid of omni-nationalism as its counter to the politically correct ideals


Yes, but you're missing the point. People pursuing the goal of nationalism talk about nationalism, culture, and ways of life, they don't talk about "ethnostates." Ethnostate is a word meant to sound bad.

"Demographics and culture of the 1950's" sounds pretty good. "Ethnostate" sounds like government goons rounding people up according to orders from some nutjob. "Ethno" is meant to trigger lefties, and "state" in there to trigger righties. It's an all-purpose dog whistle. Besides, "demographics and culture of the 1950's" is somethine we had and - compared to today's spiral of dysfunction - seems like it worked pretty well. "Ethnostate" sounds like another dangerous experiment with loony political theories.

If someone starts throwing around the word "Ethnostate", 9 times out of 10 they are opponents of the alt-right, and the 10th one is misguided with a tin ear.

Blogger wrf3 July 01, 2017 8:16 PM  

James Dixon wrote:How do you know acting in our best interest isn't in everyone's best interest?
Because it's well-known result in game theory.
The last time I looked, the diameter of the world hadn't changed.
Are you that literally minded that you are unable to recognize metaphor? Yes, the diameter of the world hasn't changed, but you can have a face-to-face conversation with anybody almost anywhere in the world, and you can get on a plane and be on the other side of the world in 24 hours.

Anonymous Jack Amok July 01, 2017 8:52 PM  

you can get on a plane and be on the other side of the world in 24 hours.

You could do the same thing 20 years ago, only then you didn't need to have a body cavity search to get on the plane.

Maybe the world isn't shrinking any more. Maybe it's getting bigger.

Anonymous andon July 01, 2017 8:55 PM  

speaking of Heat Street:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtbX0PiWIAANJsd.jpg

Anonymous DonReynolds July 01, 2017 9:47 PM  

@127 Thucydides
"What the Dems did, and President Trump discovered is that in today's environment, branding is still critical, so rather than starting "The New American Party", Trump simply used the Elephant skin as a disguise. No one who has watched him in action, or even looked back at his pre political activities could say he is a "Republican", and a large part of the voting coalition which swept him to power are not "Republicans" either."

Very good.
Maybe you can remember the last time we had a president like Trump.....a New Yorker, affluent, that liked to shoot from the lip and annoyed the hell out of the political establishment, and wanted to change the direction of the country?

Yes, his name was Theodore Roosevelt, almost exactly a century ago. Pence makes a pretty good Taft too....only Taft was from Ohio, not Indiana. But pretty close.

Donald Trump is no conservative. The Ted Cruz people told us all about it during the campaign. They were correct, but we already knew that. The Donald has given tons of money to Democrat politicians over the years and yes, he supports a number of Liberal causes. The Leftists are just too stupid to realize that Trump has more in common with them than with the Trump Supporters.

Anonymous Muh Trump is Da Real Liburul July 01, 2017 10:06 PM  

Donald Trump is no faggot. The Ted Cruz gays told us all about it during the campaign.

Anonymous Avalanche July 01, 2017 10:15 PM  

@134 "If Hillary Clinton is running against Dinesh D'Souza, the idea that I have to support Hillary is insane to me. I don't think that's the sentiment around here, so I asked some questions"

Stick around, quit fighting, and keep reading! A fundamental view of many Alt Righters is: we're not GOING to get in the position of our "choice" being a paperwork American or a lizard American! We're working NOW to ID and get ready actual candidates for the 2018 elections so we can drive out the NeverTrumpers, RINOs and Dems!!

If, somehow in bizarro world, those two were offered up as our election choices? Well, the race/civil war would be ON! (And if Trump is not able to succeed in pulling our White Western country BACK from the edge, then the same war will probably be on -- unless some damned fine replacement shows up!

Anonymous Max July 07, 2017 12:28 PM  

What people like Roy don't realize, is we don't care about the Republican Party. We never did. It can adopt our principles, or it can fade away. That's completely irrelevant. What's important is our principles, our history, and our culture. And you're not part of it. You're actually subverting it if you're running a Texas thinktank on diversity.

And D'nesh D'Souza is a complete piece of shit. His "films" are the most cringe-worthy pieces of cheap propaganda I've ever seen. He would be kicked out of Goebbels Middle School for turning in those embarrassing works. The core of them is "someone with a D behind their name supported racism so Democrats are the real racists, not Republicans." Guess what, fucker? You're about to find out who the real racist is when You Are Sent Back.

He also cowardly ran away and hid when Bill Maher got fired from ABC for repeating something D'Souza said on his show, which was attributed to Maher. The guy has no guts, no spine, and stands for nothing. Just listen to his whiny voice for crying out loud. He has to go back.

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