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Thursday, July 06, 2017

The West will never, ever be broken

A transcript of President Donald Trump's speech in Poland. It was an excellent, inspiring speech. The God-Emperor may not be properly Alt-Right, not yet. But he is sure sounding more than a little Alt-West.

TRUMP: Thank you very much. That's so nice.

The United States has many great diplomats, but there is truly no better ambassador for our country than our beautiful first lady, Melania.

Thank you, Melania. That was very nice.

We've come to your nation to deliver a very important message: America loves Poland and America loves the Polish people. Thank you.

The Poles have not only greatly enriched this region, but Polish- Americans have also greatly enriched the United States. And I was truly proud to have their support in the 2016 election.

It is a profound honor to stand in this city by this monument to the Warsaw uprising, and to address the Polish nation that so many generations have dreamed of, a Poland that is safe, strong and free.

President Duda and your wonderful first lady, Agata, have welcomed us with the tremendous warmth and kindness for which Poland is known around the world.

Thank you.

I sincere -- I mean sincerely -- thank both of them, and to Prime Minister Szydlo a very special thanks, also ... We are pleased that former President Lech Walesa, so famous for leading the Solidarity movement, has joined us today, also ... Thank you. Thank you.

On behalf of all Americans, let me also thank the entire Polish people for the generosity you have shown in welcoming our soldiers to your country. These soldiers are not only brave defenders of freedom, but also symbols of America's commitment to your security and your place in a strong and democratic Europe.

We are proudly joined on stage by American, Polish, British and Romanian soldiers. Thank you. Thank you. Great job.

President Duda and I have just come from an incredibly successful meeting with the leaders participating in the Three Seas Initiative.

To the citizens of this great region, America is eager to expand our partnership with you. We welcome stronger ties of trade and commerce as you grow your economies. And we are committed to securing your access to alternate sources of energy, so Poland and its neighbors are never again held hostage to a single supplier of energy.

Mr. President, I congratulate you, along with the president of Croatia, on your leadership of this historic Three Seas Initiative. Thank you.

This is my first visit to Central Europe as president, and I am thrilled that it could be right here, at this magnificent, beautiful piece of land. It is beautiful.

Poland is the geographic heart of Europe. But more importantly, in the Polish people, we see the soul of Europe.

Your nation is great because your spirit is great and your spirit is strong.



For two centuries, Poland suffered constant and brutal attacks.

But while Poland could be invaded and occupied and its borders even erased from the map, it could never be erased from history or from your hearts. In those dark days, you have lost your land, but you never lost your pride.

So it is with true admiration I can say today, that from the farms and villages of your countryside, to the cathedrals and squares of your great cities, Poland lives, Poland prospers and Poland prevails.

Despite every effort to transform you, oppress you or destroy you, you endured and overcame.

You are the proud nation of Copernicus -- think of that..

Chopin, St. John Paul II. Poland is a land of great heroes.

And you are a people who know the true value of what you defend.

The triumph of the Polish spirit over centuries of hardship gives us all hope for a future in which good conquers evil and peace achieves victory over war.

For Americans, Poland has been a symbol of hope since the beginning of our nation. Polish heroes and American patriots fought side by side in our War of Independence and in many wars that followed. Our soldiers still serve together today in Afghanistan and Iraq, combating the enemies of all civilization.

For America's part, we have never given up on freedom and independence as the right and destiny of the Polish people. And we never, ever will.

Our two countries share a special bond forged by unique histories and national characters. It's a fellowship that exists only among people who have fought and bled and died for freedom.

The signs of this friendship stand in our nation's capital. Just steps from the White House, we've raised statues of men with names like Pulaski and Kosciuszko.

The same is true in Warsaw, where street signs carry the name of George Washington and a monument stands to one of the world's greatest heroes, Ronald Reagan.

And so, I am here today not just to visit an old ally, but to hold it up as an example for others who seek freedom and who wish to summon the courage and the will to defend our civilization.

The story of Poland is the story of a people who have never lost hope, who have never been broken and who have never, ever forgotten who they are.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. Such a great honor.

This is a nation more than 1,000 years old. Your borders were erased for more than a century and only restored just one century ago.

In 1920, in the Miracle of Vistula, Poland stopped the Soviet Army bent on European conquest.

Then 19 years later, in 1938, you were invaded yet again; this time by Nazi Germany from the west and the Soviet Union from the east. That's trouble.

That's tough.

Under a double occupation, the Polish people endured evils beyond description: the Katyn Forest Massacre, the occupation, the Holocaust, the Warsaw Ghetto and the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, the destruction of this beautiful capital city, and the deaths of nearly one in five Polish people.

A vibrant Jewish population, the largest in Europe, was reduced to almost nothing after the Nazis systematically murdered millions of Poland's Jewish citizens, along with countless others during that brutal occupation.

In the summer of 1944, the Nazi and Soviet armies were preparing for a terrible and bloody battle right here in Warsaw. Amid that Hell on Earth, the citizens of Poland rose up to defend their homeland.

I am deeply honored to be joined on stage today by veterans and heroes of the Warsaw uprising.

What great spirit.

We salute your noble sacrifice and we pledge to always remember your fight for Poland and for freedom. Thank you. Thank you.

This monument reminds us that more than 150,000 Poles died during that desperate struggle to overthrow oppression.

From the other side of the river, the Soviet armed forces stopped and waited.

They watched as the Nazis ruthlessly destroyed the city, viciously murdering men, women and children.

They tried to destroy this nation forever by shattering its will to survive.

But there's a courage and a strength deep in the Polish character that no one could destroy.

The Polish martyr Bishop Michal Kozal said it well: ``More horrifying of a defeat of arms is a collapse of the human spirit.'' Through four decades of Communist rule, Poland and the other captive nations of Europe endured a brutal campaign to demolish freedom, your faith, your laws, your history, your identity; indeed, the very essence of your culture and your humanity.

Yet through it all, you never lost that spirit.

Your oppressors tried to break you, but Poland could not be broken.

And when the day came on June 2nd, 1979, and 1 million Poles gathered around Victory Square for their very first mass with their Polish pope, that day every Communist in Warsaw must have known that their oppressive system would soon come crashing down.

They must have known it at the exact moment during Pope John Paul II's sermon when a million Polish men, women and children suddenly raised their voices in a single prayer.

A million Polish people did not ask for wealth. They did not ask for privilege. Instead, 1 million Poles saying three simple words: ``We want God.'' In those words, the Polish people recalled the promise of a better future.

They found new courage to face down their oppressors. And they found the words to declare that Poland would be Poland once again.

As I stand here today before this incredible crowd, this faithful nation, we can still hear those voices that echo through history. Their message is as true today as ever. The people of Poland, the people of America and the people of Europe still cry out, ``We want God.'' Together with Pope John Paul II, the Poles reasserted their identity as a nation devoted to God. And with that powerful declaration of who you are, you came to understand what to do and how to live.

You stood in solidarity against oppression, against a lawless secret police, against a cruel and wicked system that impoverished your cities and your souls, and you won. Poland prevailed. Poland will always prevail.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: Thank you.

You were supported in that victory over communism by a strong alliance of free nations in the West that defied tyranny. Now among the most committed members of the NATO alliance, Poland has resumed its place as a leading nation of a Europe that is strong, whole and free. A strong Poland is a blessing to the nations of Europe and they know that. A strong Europe is a blessing to the West, and to the world.

One hundred years after the entry of American forces into World War I, the transatlantic bond between the United States and Europe is as strong as ever and maybe, in many ways, even stronger.

This continent no longer confronts the specter of communism. But today, we're in the West, and we have to say, there are dire threats to our security and to our way of life.

You see what's happening out there. They are threats. We will confront them.

We will win. But they are threats.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: We are confronted by another oppressive ideology, one that seeks to export terrorism and extremism all around the globe.

America and others have suffered one terror attack after another. We're going to get it to stop.

During a historic gathering in Saudi Arabia, I called on the leaders of more than 50 Muslim nations to join together to drive out this menace which threatens all of humanity. We must stand united against these shared enemies to strip them of their territory and their funding and their networks and any form of ideological support that they may have.

While we will always welcome new citizens who share our values and love our people, our borders will always be closed to terrorism and extremism of any kind.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: We are fighting hard against radical Islamic terrorism.

And we will prevail.

We cannot accept those who reject our values and who use hatred to justify violence against the innocent.

Today, the West is also confronted by the powers that seek to test our will, undermine our confidence and challenge our interests.

To meet new forms of aggression, including propaganda, financial crimes and cyber warfare, we must adapt our alliance to compete effectively in new ways and on all new battlefields.

We urge Russia to cease its destabilizing activities in Ukraine and elsewhere and its support for hostile regimes, including Syria and Iran, and to instead join the community of responsible nations in our fight against common enemies and in defense of civilization itself.

Finally, on both sides of the Atlantic, our citizens are confronted by yet another danger, one firmly within our control. This danger is invisible to some but familiar to the Poles: the steady creep of government bureaucracy that drains the vitality and wealth of the people.

The West became great, not because of paperwork and regulations, but because people were allowed to chase their dreams and pursue their destinies.

Americans, Poles and nations of Europe value freedom and sovereignty. We must work together to confront forces, whether they come inside or out, from the south or the east, that threaten over time to undermine these values and to erase the bonds of culture, faith and tradition that make us who we are.

If left unchecked, these forces will undermine our courage, sap our spirit and weaken our will to defend ourselves and our societies

But just as our adversaries and enemies of the past learned here in Poland, we know that these forces, too, are doomed to fail if we want them to fail. And we do indeed want them to fail.

They are doomed not only because our alliance is strong, our countries are resilient and our power is unmatched. To all of that, you have to say, everything is true.

Our adversaries, however, are doomed because we will never forget who we are.

And if we don't forget who we are, we just can't be beaten.

Americans will never forget. The nations of Europe will never forget.

We are the fastest and the greatest community. There is nothing like our community of nations. The world has never known anything like our community of nations.

We write symphonies. We pursue innovation. We celebrate our ancient heroes, embrace our timeless traditions and customs, and always seek to explore and discover brand-new frontiers.

We reward brilliance, we strive for excellence, and cherish inspiring works of art that honor God. We treasure the rule of law and protect the right to free speech and free expression.

We empower women as pillars of our society and of our success.

We put faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, at the center of our lives.

And we debate everything. We challenge everything. We seek to know everything, so that we can better know ourselves.

And above all, we value the dignity of every human life, protect the rights of every person and share the hope of every soul to live in freedom.

That is who we are. Those are the priceless ties that bind us together as nations, as allies and as a civilization.

What we have, what we inherited from our -- and -- and you know this better than anybody and you see it today, with this incredible group of people -- what we've inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again. So we cannot fail.

This great community of nations has something else in common. In every one of them, it is the people, not the powerful, who have always formed the foundation of freedom and the cornerstone of our defense.

The people have been that foundation here in Poland, as they were right here in Warsaw. And they were the foundation from the very, very beginning in America.

Our citizens did not win freedom together, did not survive horrors together, did not face down evil together only to lose our freedom to a lack of pride and confidence in our values. We did not and we will not. We will never back down.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: As long as we know our history, we will know how to build our future.

Americans know that a strong alliance of free, sovereign and independent nations is the best defense for our freedoms and for our interests. That is why my administration has demanded that all members of NATO finally meet their full and fair financial obligation. As a result of this insistence, billions of dollars more have begun to pour into NATO. In fact, people are shocked. But billions and billions of dollars more coming in from countries that, in my opinion, would not have been paying so quickly.

To those who would criticize our tough stance, I would point out that the United States has demonstrated not merely with words but with its actions that we stand firmly behind Article V, the mutual defense commitment.

Words are easy but actions are what matters. And for its own protection -- and you know this, everybody knows this, everybody has to know this -- Europe must do more. Europe must demonstrate that it believes in its future by investing its money to secure that future.

That is why we applaud Poland for its decision to move forward this week on acquiring from the United States the battle-tested Patriot air and missile defense system, the best anywhere in the world.

That is also why we salute the Polish people for being one of the NATO countries that has actually achieved the benchmark for investment in our common defense.

Thank you. Thank you, Poland. I must tell you the example you set is truly magnificent and we applaud Poland. Thank you.

We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means, but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have.

The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive. Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost? Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders? Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it? We can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere on Earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive.

If anyone forgets the critical importance of these things, let them come to one country that never has, let them come to Poland... and let them come here to Warsaw and learn the story of the Warsaw Uprising.

When they do, they should learn about Jerusalem Avenue.

In August of 1944, Jerusalem Avenue was one of the main roads running east and west through this city, just as it is today. Control of that road was crucially important to both sides in the battle for Warsaw. The German military wanted it as their most direct route to move troops and to form a very strong front. And for the Polish home army, the ability to pass north and south across that street was critical to keep the center of the city and the uprising itself from being split apart and destroyed.

Every night the Poles put up sandbags amid machine-gun fire -- and it was horrendous fire -- to protect a narrow passage across Jerusalem Avenue. Every day, the enemy forces knocked them down, again and again and again.

Then the Poles dug a trench. Finally, they built a barricade.

And the brave Polish fighters began to flow across Jerusalem Avenue.

That narrow passageway, just a few feet wide, was the fragile link that kept the uprising alive. Between its walls, a constant stream of citizens and freedom fighters made their perilous -- just perilous -- sprints. They ran across that street, they ran through that street, they ran under that street, all to defend the city.

The far side was several yards away, recalled one young Polish woman ... That mortality and that life was so important to her. In fact, she said the mortally dangerous sector of the street was soaked in blood.

It was the blood of messengers, liaison girls and couriers. Nazi snipers shot at anybody who crossed; anybody who crossed, they were being shot at. Their soldiers burned every building on the street and they used the Poles as human shields for their tanks in their effort to capture Jerusalem Avenue.

The enemy never ceased its relentless assault on that small outpost of civilization. And the Poles never ceased its defense. The Jerusalem Avenue passage required constant protection, repair and reinforcement.

But the will of its defenders did not waver even in the face of death.

And to the last days of the uprising, the fragile crossing never, ever failed.

It was never, ever forgotten. It was kept open by the Polish people.

The memories of those who perished in the Warsaw Uprising cry out across the decades. And few are clearer than the memories of those who died to build and defend the Jerusalem Avenue crossing.

Those heroes remind us that the West was saved with the blood of patriots, that each generation must rise up and play their part in its defense and that every foot of ground and every last inch of civilization is worth defending with your life.

Our own fight for the West does not begin on the battlefield. It begins with our minds, our wills and our souls. Today, the ties that unite our civilization are no less vital and demand no less defense than that bare shred of land on which the hope of Poland once totally rested.

Our freedom, our civilization and our survival depend on these bonds of history, culture and memory. And today, as ever, Poland is in our heart, and its people are in that fight.

Just as Poland could not be broken, I declare today for the world to hear that the West will never, ever be broken. Our values will prevail, our people will thrive, and our civilization will triumph.

AUDIENCE: Donald Trump! Donald Trump! Donald Trump!

TRUMP: Thank you.

So together let us all fight like the Poles, for family, for freedom, for country and for God.

Thank you. God bless you, God bless the Polish people, God bless our allies, and God bless the United States of America.

Thank you. God bless you. Thank you very much.

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79 Comments:

Anonymous Tipsy July 06, 2017 12:57 PM  

Niech Żyje Polska!

Blogger kurt9 July 06, 2017 1:01 PM  

Its an inspiring, very Reagan-like speech. I think Trump will do just fine as president.

Blogger tuberman July 06, 2017 1:01 PM  

Yes, the God-Emperor is pro-Western Civilization as well as America First. Pro-West through Nationalism.

Blogger ZhukovG July 06, 2017 1:10 PM  

An excellent speech overall. Only a couple of unfortunate statements. But then as a fan of both Poland and Russia, I dislike seeing them set against each other.



Anonymous Rather, Not July 06, 2017 1:11 PM  

That is a materially better speech than we have become used to in the last several administrations.

Meanwhile: If I was on twitter (which I refuse to do):

CNN #FakeNews is Faker than Fake pro-wrestling. 1/3

In any #FakeNews story, literal story, whichever entity is further to the left is the hero, and the one further to the right is the heel. 2/3

#FakeNews is more predictable than the outcome of Randy 'Macho Man' Savage fighting John Smith hailing from Lincoln Nebraska. 3/3

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 06, 2017 1:11 PM  

I'm almost speechless. We want God. We need God.

Blogger modsquad July 06, 2017 1:17 PM  

Quick note, Lech Walensa was controlled opposition. In one of his early speeches when elected President he said, "You have to steal your first million..."

Blogger SouthRon July 06, 2017 1:18 PM  

"We want God!" That brought tears to my eyes. Would
that millions of American would stand together and cry from the heart, "We want God!"

Ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.

Oh Lord, return our hearts to you.

Anonymous David-093 July 06, 2017 1:23 PM  

Magnificent.

Anonymous burgmeister July 06, 2017 1:28 PM  

Only a Jan Sobieski reference was missing - to clearly identify the thread.

But this speech is as good as it gets.

Blogger tz July 06, 2017 1:28 PM  

Wow. I don't know how much was Trump or his speech writer but ... wow, just wow.

The theme is nationalistic, though the civic form. Not multicultural. Poles in Poland. The echo is Americans in America.

But what struck me (my heritage is Polish so watched the communist version, and it's fall more closely than most) is that we are the Poles. It just took Lech Walesa and John Paul II. It wasn't called a "meme war", but it was exactly that. A war of ideas. The Gdansk shipyard strike exposed the lie and hypocrisy of the "for the workers". The Pope managed to have a million isolated candle flames form a bonfire.

Would any of the cuckservatives mention that point in John Paul II's speech where the crowd chanted "we want God!".

While the twin flames of the holy spirt and liberty aren't following the same path, we can see them grow, and if Poland can recover after partition, the Nazis, and the Soviet Empire, what excuse do we have for not doing the same? Exceptionalism? We need to show that we can be at least as good as the Poles.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 06, 2017 1:37 PM  

That's dignified. That's presidential. That's what we haven't seen from an occupant of the White House for many terms now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 1:38 PM  

modsquad wrote:Lech Walensa was controlled opposition.
He was originally controlled opposition. The Communists didn't foresee that raising up any symbol of resistance would create a rallying point. The situation swiftly spun out of their control, and Walesa had no more ability to direct it than Jaruzelski. He was, however, quick to capitalize on the opportunity. His determined and intelligent leadership of the union during the martial law period is probably responsible for the bloodlessness of the end of Soviet domination.

Blogger Dedd Sirius July 06, 2017 1:43 PM  

This speech feels like a historic moment, a pivotal moment in the resurgence of our American will and the inception of a new era of even greater achievement and greater blessings and greater prosperity.

What a great time to be alive!

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky July 06, 2017 1:50 PM  

Ever since the fall of the Soviet Union, the term "Leader of the Free World" has rung hollow. Well, not today!

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 1:54 PM  

Too bad he had to mention that rotten Koran-kisser Fake Saint John Paul II. The sooner Poles recognize he was a dirty Marxist, the better.

Anonymous Doug Johnstone July 06, 2017 1:54 PM  

Get educated. I DARE YOU to debate this guy

https://twitter.com/cmclymer

Blogger Forge the Sky July 06, 2017 1:55 PM  

Somewhat on-topic,

I don't usually play video games, but recently made an exception for The Witcher 3. It's made by a Polish studio, based on a Polish book series, and catapulted both to international fame. I didn't previously know or care anything about anything Polish except sausage.

Part of why it hooked me, I think, is the evident love and passion for purely European folklore, myth making, and history. It's become popular for American creators to mix and match cultures in fantasy settings. The Jackson LOTR trilogy drew musically and visually from Asian cultures, as did ASOIAF. I have no issue with that, but it's nice sometimes to be immersed in the 'feel' of a particular people.

I note that Japanese media is often pretty good at doing this as well.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 06, 2017 1:57 PM  

@15

Perhaps: "Leader of the Free Men of the West," would be a better fit for today.

Regardless, President Trump has proven himself to be that leader.

Anonymous gxg July 06, 2017 1:58 PM  

God bless President Trump.

About Lech Walesa, I've lately wondered if momentum might propel Tommy Robinson to fill a similar role in the U.K. The dynamics seem similar. God bless him, too.

Blogger DrAndroSF July 06, 2017 2:00 PM  

Yes. When the Polish king saved Christendom. Amen.

Blogger Omega Supreme July 06, 2017 2:16 PM  

Cuck of the Day.
https://twitter.com/imillhiser/status/883018766170378240
This is a recruiting poster for ISIS.
Progressives will blame the next Islamic Terrorist attack in the US on this speech.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 06, 2017 2:19 PM  

Ok I'm a bit confused, looking at the Warsaw Uprising statue I have to ask why the German looking helmets?

Anonymous Opus July 06, 2017 2:22 PM  

If Poland is so wonderful why are there so many Poles taking British jobs in England. My Russian friend says it is even worse in Moscow.

The late Mrs Thatcher loved Solidarity but was entirely anti-Union in her own country - the hypocrite.

I doubt (the way things are going) that Europe or even Brexit England will survive.

Blogger tz July 06, 2017 2:24 PM  

@16 - No evidence, no history, no argument? It was someone sent from communist countries that attempted to assassinate him. He worked with Reagan (is he a Marxist?) in the fight against Marxism. He helped make the old Latin mass more available. He wrote strongly pro-life encyclicals, and even was more capitalist in Centissimus Annus though noted materalism creates the very problems we are experiencing now - and was fully for both Solidarity (the name of Lech Walesa's union) and Subsidiarity - which are distributed, small government stances.

As the leader of a world religion he had to do some diplomatic things, like Trump did when he visited Saudi Arabia and Israel. But that doesn't make Trump a Jew or Muslim.

Blogger tz July 06, 2017 2:26 PM  

@24 the same economics. Poland was held back by the long communist period, so go where the money is now that the borders are transparent. The UK isn't complaining about Polish terrorists, but they are letting a lot more muslims in, giving them citizenship and welfare, letting them rape their daughters. The Poles at least work.

Anonymous Claymore July 06, 2017 2:30 PM  

What a great speech! Now watch the media antibodies try to pan it.

Anonymous MIG July 06, 2017 2:34 PM  

These are words of a statesman.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener July 06, 2017 2:35 PM  

Trump has given several excellent speeches. But this is likely his best one yet.

Blogger Jew613 July 06, 2017 2:35 PM  

Here is a full video of the speech https://youtu.be/DLZKYl2sOKs

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 2:37 PM  

YouTube link to the speech here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W67ajIBrhw

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 2:38 PM  

oops, too late

Blogger tuberman July 06, 2017 2:39 PM  

24. Opus

Naysayer much?

Blogger Ken Prescott July 06, 2017 2:57 PM  

They got them from Germans who didn't need them anymore.

Blogger Ken Prescott July 06, 2017 2:57 PM  

They got them from Germans who didn't need them anymore.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 06, 2017 2:58 PM  

Ok I'm a bit confused, looking at the Warsaw Uprising statue I have to ask why the German looking helmets?

Captured equipment, worn by the Home Army during the Uprising, usually with a red-white band.

The "Little Insurgent" statue in Warsaw, which honors the children who fought, is a small boy wearing the same kind of helmet, of course oversized for him.

Blogger Harris July 06, 2017 3:02 PM  

Awesome speech. Historic.

Blogger Harris July 06, 2017 3:03 PM  

You can almost feel the Polish people swelling up with pride as Trump lauds them repeatedly.

OpenID paworldandtimes July 06, 2017 3:04 PM  

why are there so many Poles taking British jobs in England

A legitimate point. England for the English, Poland for Poles. The open labor maker cuts both ways, Eastern Europeans are hit by the youth-drain of the open labor market.

A less justified phenomenon is when the English project their pent up anger with muzz/mud diversity onto Poles, a safe target under an anti-racist regime.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab July 06, 2017 3:05 PM  

Brought tears to my eyes. Not tired of winning yet.

Anonymous Ryan July 06, 2017 3:19 PM  

Stephen Miller can write one hell of a speech.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 3:25 PM  

Doug Johnstone wrote:Get educated. I DARE YOU to debate this guy

Sure about that sport? Ol' Chuckie ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer:

@cmclymer
Charles Clymer

This is... I don't... uh... I can't quite... WHAT THE FUCK.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 06, 2017 3:27 PM  

@16, You're not wrong about JP2, but he did oppose Soviet Communism for Poland's sake, despite not minding socialism elsewhere. It's hard to blame them for appreciating that. And his iconic status, faulty as it is, is partly responsible for Poland perhaps being the closest thing we have to a Catholic nation at this point.

Last year, Poland's Catholics (including the president) enthroned Jesus Christ the King of Poland. The media probably had no idea what to make of that, but it's important, and means Poland is way ahead of the rest of us. They sure didn't get the idea from Vatican II or JP2, which buried that idea under the heresy of religious liberty. They're getting it right anyway, somehow.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 3:33 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Sure about that sport? Ol' Chuckie ain't the sharpest knife in the drawer:
Looking over his twatter timeline, his act consists entirely of Jon Leibowitz' tactic pointing at a conservative, striking a pose and making faces to express his indignation, incredulity or supposedly superior intellect, optionally accompanied with sputtering.
It's a pose, it's not an argument or even a response. It's rhetoric for people who are too stupid to understand even short words.

He's not capable of debate.

Blogger Gapeseed July 06, 2017 3:35 PM  

I know some here think relatively little of Ronald Reagan, which I believe utterly unfair given the context. So when I say this speech is Reaganesque, I mean it as highest praise.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 3:39 PM  

Doug Johnstone wrote:Get educated. I DARE YOU to debate this guy
And by people too stupid to understand even short words, I of course mean you.

Blogger Lovekraft July 06, 2017 3:41 PM  

Reading this I picture Erdogan holed up with the tv on, rubbing his hands with mischievous glee instead of stepping up and helping.

Turkey was told today that further talks with the EU are suspended.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-turkey-eu-parliament-idUSKBN19R194

The nations between Poland and Turkey are going to feel the hardest pull.

Anonymous A.B. Prosper July 06, 2017 3:42 PM  

re: Poles in the UK

Poland is on the right track socially but it has a long long way to go. Its White fertility rate is lower than nearly anywhere else and at 1.29 is crisis level .

As part of nationalism and national survival , nations are going to have to have economic development that actually creates jobs for men in their own nation . They can't export surplus labor and expect the culture to remain intact and healthy for long.

No work, no babies, no babies, no future.

Closed borders are obvious but this means borders closed to labor and a rather different economy than we are used to and it may mean along with very possibly an additional welfare state layer as well. It also means less export of surplus production onto other countries too and less trade overall.

No one like this idea, especially well off Westerners who are going to have a bit less in the way of options but its the only way to breach social carrying capacity limits

We can produce enough goods to serve the West well enough, the same systems of production are very efficient and don't allow enough people to have any means have some of that production. Its not that different than they problem with famines in the 3rd world. The food/goods can be there but no one can buy it

worse, it may not work, population decline is a fixed feature of urbanization and the population is growing more urban. Short of some kind of permit system limiting urban entry , its nearly impossible to keep urbanization under control and urbanization is sterilization

Before anyone mentions the baby boom, the social arrangements can't be repeated and on top of that for the US, housing space dramatically increased along with wages . Suburbs essentially reversed urbanization for a few decades.

And note the assumption that if Whites were more Christian , things would be better is flatly contradicted by the Visigrad Four, all those nations especially Poland are hugely more religious than anywhere in Europe and all of them have significantly lower White fertility than much more secular nations. Religion has zero impact and it may even have a negative one.

Long and short, while markets are vital but capitalism and urbanization is killing White fertility as fast or faster than Communism did.

Blogger Lovekraft July 06, 2017 3:45 PM  

@VFM #7634: "Too bad he had to mention that rotten Koran-kisser Fake Saint John Paul II. The sooner Poles recognize he was a dirty Marxist, the better."

Is this opinion or fact? Greater forces are at work that are beyond anyone's control, even Pope John Paul II. Not defending him but his hands may have been tied.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 3:45 PM  

Gapeseed wrote:I know some here think relatively little of Ronald Reagan, which I believe utterly unfair given the context.Reagan was the best that could have been nominated, and hence that could have been elected, at the time. He did some good things, but he also went along with a lot of bad things, including amnesty for illegal aliens, for which we are still paying. Most of the problems that are overwhelming the country now can be traced to Reagan and the conventional conservatism he embraced. Maybe Reagan himself wasn't a cuck, but he sure enabled them.

Trump is outperforming Reagan by miles.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 06, 2017 3:49 PM  

@45, Regardless of any mistakes he made as president, Reagan could give a heck of a speech. He had to, to reach the people as well as he did despite having no communications channels outside the MSM. Wish he'd have had YouTube.

Anonymous BBGKB July 06, 2017 3:56 PM  

What a great speech! Now watch the media antibodies try to pan it.

Shitlib media is only covering that the Polish first lady didn't shake TRUMP's hand

Anonymous Pax_Romana July 06, 2017 4:06 PM  

Hearing and reading the speech, I felt like Trump was about to praise Sobieski for saving Vienna from the Turks...and in the background, I could hear Sabaton's "Winged Hussars" playing triumphantly.

Pity he stuck with modern history. Talking about the Winged Hussars should still fill a Pole's heart with pride.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75zmIj_4LFQ

Blogger Robert Divinity July 06, 2017 4:12 PM  

We have to remember that our defense is not just a commitment of money, it is a commitment of will. Because as the Polish experience reminds us, the defense of the West ultimately rests not only on means, but also on the will of its people to prevail and be successful and get what you have to have.

Trump wants to preserve "will," something the globalist utopians must break to prevail. This is the fight nationalists wanted, and the speech is as targeted at the domestic front as much as the international audience.

This was a pivotal moment and will be remembered as such. Cowards in New York and Berlin will decry the speech, but the masses agree with all its particulars. The West will not go quietly as scheduled.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz July 06, 2017 4:18 PM  

@23
You asked about German helmets on the Statue of The Warsaw Uprising 1944.
Polish patriots used what was avaliable. 95% of their stuf was German, 5% was homemade.
http://podziemiezbrojne.blox.pl/resource/PW_44.jpg

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz July 06, 2017 4:25 PM  

@43
Cail Corishev wrote:@16, [...]

Last year, Poland's Catholics (including the president) enthroned Jesus Christ the King of Poland. The media probably had no idea what to make of that, but it's important, and means Poland is way ahead of the rest of us. They sure didn't get the idea from Vatican II or JP2, which buried that idea under the heresy of religious liberty. They're getting it right anyway, somehow.


We, Poles, had been ordered to do it.
Really:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozalia_Celak%C3%B3wna

Blogger Alexandros July 06, 2017 4:38 PM  

Yes, yes, freedom and properity, BUT WHAT ABOUT TRANSGENDER RIGHTS!?

Blogger Harris July 06, 2017 4:49 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Gapeseed wrote:I know some here think relatively little of Ronald Reagan, which I believe utterly unfair given the context.Reagan was the best that could have been nominated, and hence that could have been elected, at the time. He did some good things, but he also went along with a lot of bad things, including amnesty for illegal aliens, for which we are still paying. Most of the problems that are overwhelming the country now can be traced to Reagan and the conventional conservatism he embraced. Maybe Reagan himself wasn't a cuck, but he sure enabled them.

Trump is outperforming Reagan by miles.


Reagan made the mistake of trusting Democrats to keep their word. As a former Democrat himself, and the governor of liberal California, he believed the Democrats were honorable. The Amnesty offered was a deal made in exchange for something the Democrats later refused to to honor. Bad mistake? Yes. But it was an honest mistake.

Anonymous Opus July 06, 2017 5:29 PM  

AS you see I am no lover of the Poles. My neighbour (Polish) boasts to me of how he works and does not take handouts but never stops to consider why I a native Britain am without work. He also seems incapable of disposing of the rubbish he creates. This is not his country. That he is 100% preferable to his predecessors (Tamils, and Philipinos) - the Tamils abandoned their babies diapers on the patio, rain-soaked and seeping such that I had to get on my hands and knees to clear the excrement away is not the point.

When I was born England was 100% British and thus 100% white - the murder rate was down at about 200 a year - it then rose within a couple of decades to about 1800.

England is collapsing.

Blogger Thucydides July 06, 2017 5:34 PM  

Since unscrambling the egg will be a generational task (absent of some truly horrific violence and ethnic cleansing on a scale only practiced by the Communists in the 20th century), being Alt-West is a good position to take. Keeping people like Vox, Milo, the God Emperor himself and others who would never fit neatly into an "Alt-Right" or ethnostate box is pretty important in my opinion; we are much better off with all of us pulling in the same direction than excluding people like them.

And it is a numbers game, crushing the Progressives and their troll armies isn't going to be an individual task (regardless of the heroic efforts of individuals), in the long run, rebuilding a functioning high trust society requires the efforts of millions and a generational time horizon.

Blogger great_o'rety July 06, 2017 6:04 PM  

A.B. Prosper wrote:re: Poles in the UK

Poland is on the right track socially but it has a long long way to go. Its White fertility rate is lower than nearly anywhere else and at 1.29 is crisis level .

(...)

No work, no babies, no babies, no future.

It puzzles me how one can discuss demography without ever mentioning state pension schemes. That is the sole reason for the catastrophic birth rates in the West. If your later age survival no longer depends on having children and you're heavily taxed for a state to pay for your retirement plans, then you end up with a mighty stick and no carrot. No wonder there are no kids around. Thank the Bismarck guy for this hellish invention.

And religion plays a big role. Poles have the highest birth rates of all British immigrants, mohammads included. They stay Christian and still there's some magic factor completely changing the equation.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 6:09 PM  

great_o'rety wrote:They stay Christian and still there's some magic factor completely changing the equation.


What percentage of ethnic Poles of prime childbearing years, 18-30, are in England?

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 6:13 PM  

That he is 100% preferable to his predecessors (Tamils, and Philipinos) - the Tamils abandoned their babies diapers on the patio, rain-soaked and seeping such that I had to get on my hands and knees to clear the excrement away is not the point.

the hispanic invaders do that here in the U.S. too - they throw crap-filled diapers on the side of the road. i even saw one btch get out of a nice car and throw diapers in the river

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 06, 2017 6:15 PM  

@43  Enthroning a king whose kingdom is not of this world.  If I were a Christian I would have to consider that silly at best.

A.B. Prosper wrote:They can't export surplus labor and expect the culture to remain intact and healthy for long.
If the men are fixing pipes in London they can't be making babies in Krakow.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 6:16 PM  

Grad Chrystusa Króla!
Viva Chriso Rey!
Vivat Christus Rex!
Heil der König Christus!

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 6:17 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:Enthroning a king whose kingdom is not of this world.  If I were a Christian I would have to consider that silly at best.
That's because you're a fundamentally shallow person.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 6:35 PM  

We, Poles, had been ordered to do it.
Really:
https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozalia_Celak%C3%B3wna


@56 Bernard Korzeniewicz
At least you all actually did it. France was ordered to do something similar but wouldn't, and ended up with the French Revolution and being run by anti-Catholics and insane postmodernists ever since.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 6:37 PM  

What percentage of ethnic Poles of prime childbearing years, 18-30, are in England?

@62 Snidely Whiplash
I think it would be best for all involved -- Poles and English -- if the Poles in the UK went back as soon as they're able to. It's not good for Poland's lifeblood to be drained off like that... a TFR of 1.3? Ugh.

Anonymous Opus July 06, 2017 6:45 PM  

Just seen a bit more of Trump in Poland - and disgusted that the Polish President's wife should deliberately avoid shaking hands with Mr Trump and instead cut across to shake the hand of FLOTUS. Reminds me (I had forgotten ) of when I was spat at in the street by a Pole - I knew I did not care for them - and then there was that other one who slept with my then gf - that was the end of that.

What also shocked me a little was that in his eulogy Trump failed to mention that WW2 only began when on 3rd September 1939 England declared was on Germany because of Germany's invasion of Poland (or as Germany would have seen it, occupied Prussia). We never did despite seven years of fighting manage to liberate Poland. Stupid war where the real winners turned out to be America and a (((country))) which then did not even exist and all on the back of a very obvious hoax. If Britain won the war it was a victory of the most Pyrhic kind as within a few years we had given up our Indian Empire and then the rest as well, to be invaded by the people we were, at least in left wing ideology, oppressing.

I am sure I will be in a better mood tomorrow.

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 7:44 PM  

We never did despite seven years of fighting manage to liberate Poland.

by "we" are you talking about the UK? because i doubt that was ever high on their list of priorities

Anonymous Grinder July 06, 2017 8:05 PM  

Pope John Paul II kissed the Koran on May 14, 1999. Also, he apologized to muzzies for the Crusades. He was another globalist and phony. Francis is at least far more open about it. "Saint" only by the globalist-Jew usurped Vatican's reckoning.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 8:31 PM  

@71 Grinder
And who declared Fake Pope John Paul II a "saint"? Fake Pope Francis.

Funny how all these phony postmodernist "Catholics" scratch each others' backs and ignore all Church teaching pre-Vatican II, innit?

Blogger Deplorable July 06, 2017 8:35 PM  

@4, ZhukovG: An excellent speech overall. Only a couple of unfortunate statements. But then as a fan of both Poland and Russia, I dislike seeing them set against each other.
Similarly, I'm fond of both.
It would've been a notable omission if he did not mention Russia. So he had to, but he did a fine job walking that line. Any statement about Poland being invaded or occupied (by Russians) was described as a threat from "the Soviet Union", or "the east". The only specific mention of Russia was to urge it "to cease its destabilizing activities in [the] Ukraine and elsewhere...". Other notes to keep Russia on guard: ensuring Poland could get energy from more than one source, and the sale of Patriot defense.

He fulfilled the expectation, yet had nothing specifically provoking Poles against modern-day Russia. I read this as carefully keeping the door open for cooperation prior to the upcoming meeting with Putin, and beyond. And any work with Russia would be from a firm negotiating position, which is good news for this American.

@52, BBGKB: Shitlib media is only covering that the Polish first lady didn't shake TRUMP's hand
But she did after the speech, when the presidents and wives were on stage. Maybe the media is talking about another event.

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 06, 2017 9:14 PM  

What a speech! It really brought tears to my eyes.

Effective use of rhetoric here and a wonderful gift of morale to the Nations who can see they are not alone in "getting it", not alone against the globalist entities and their policy of ethnic cleansing the peoples of the West.

Great stuff!

Glancing at my local MSM feed they distinguished themselves by cackling about the embarrassing orange buffoon being "snubbed" by the Polish First Lady in one of life's handshake mix-ups.

Blogger Lew Rand July 06, 2017 11:10 PM  

Did you see the real exchange or the edited one? Newsweek put up a real hack job (Polish FLOTUS immediately shakes GEs hand after US FLOTUS in reality, but you should see that one).

Had lot of fun trying to figure out if it was a faux pas on his part or just reflex to stick his hand out as soon as he was done with the previous handshake).

Either way it was kinda funny, but not some huge international incident. Polish FLOTUS shook his hand in order and the GE made a human mistake.

Anonymous Simplytimothy July 07, 2017 2:31 AM  

The reaction of The Atlantic and TNR (as posted at VDARE) is eye opening.

They hate us.

The reactions of the cucks should prove interesting too.

"He came to divide..."

And here we are Awesome

Blogger David Power July 07, 2017 3:24 AM  

"The fundamental question of our time is whether the West has the will to survive.

Do we have the confidence in our values to defend them at any cost?

Do we have enough respect for our citizens to protect our borders?

Do we have the desire and the courage to preserve our civilization in the face of those who would subvert and destroy it?

We can have the largest economies and the most lethal weapons anywhere on Earth, but if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive."


President Trump 2017 (Poland)

Blogger Stilicho July 07, 2017 6:40 AM  

@76 the amount of outrage in the press about Trump's speech tells us he was right on target.

Blogger Dane Prywatne July 11, 2017 5:33 AM  

Why do you call president Trump with GE acronym? What it stands for?

As to shaking hands - it looks like unintentionally lack of reflex on Polish FLOTUS to go outside of protocol if most important person forwarded hand. But pleas - to not let this minor mistake make a divide as libtards would like. I believe president Duda reacted correctly on twitter and looks like president Trump accepted it with forwarding his message.

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