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Thursday, July 06, 2017

Trump defends the West!

I think some of you are going to enjoy this Darkstream. It was kind of incredible; more than 4,500 people watched it live, which is a new record.

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Blogger modsquad July 06, 2017 8:42 PM  

All of this means nothing until he goes after the central bankers. One cannot serve two masters kind of thing.

Blogger VD July 06, 2017 8:49 PM  

Don't be a moron. To claim it "means nothing" is abjectly stupid. If you're going to be a whiny defeatist, go do it somewhere else.

Blogger Cataline Sergius July 06, 2017 9:01 PM  

The other Vox has declared his speech to be "Alt Right".

I don't think they are the duty experts on that subject but still...

Anonymous johnc July 06, 2017 9:04 PM  

The other Vox has declared his speech to be "Alt Right".

They're basically doing our marketing for us now.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother July 06, 2017 9:10 PM  

Spergs! Spergs everywhere!

Swedish Chef makes his autist casserole with the secret ingredients!!!

"Ehh spergy spergy spergy!"

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 9:12 PM  

The part that Vox called an "alt-Right manifesto" was Trump listing "family, freedom, country and God" as fundamental Western values.
That means everybody is alt-Right now.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 06, 2017 9:13 PM  

Or whiny beech

Blogger Felix Bellator July 06, 2017 9:16 PM  

Whom the God Emperor destroys he first makes mad.....

Blogger Wanderer July 06, 2017 9:28 PM  

This is off-topic but has anyone else read Dangerous by Milo yet? In it he claims the Alt-Right is dead, that ethno-nationalism is bad, but then elsewhere calls himself an unapologetic zionist. Typical jewish "nationalism for me, but not for thee" hypocrisy. Pretty fuckin gay tbh!

Blogger Fenris Wulf July 06, 2017 9:33 PM  

Read it? I'm wearing it right now!

Dangerous by Milo. The cologne for manly men.

Blogger Lazarus July 06, 2017 9:35 PM  

It's called "Statesmanship".

OpenID Sidehill Dodger July 06, 2017 9:39 PM  

Walls were great, but then came the invention of the scaling ladder. So the reality is now that walls have to be defended. Someone want to do a quick calculation as to the number of troops and guns that will be needed? And of course that's just the first line. We need defense in depth.

Not saying it can't be done, but it's not just bricks and mortar.

Blogger Phillip George July 06, 2017 9:41 PM  

the battle for Western Civilization now is nearly hot.
Because you just covered Judeo Christian myth making again and a handful of your readers may not know of Jim Stone ex government spook in self imposed exile

http://82.221.129.208/

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 06, 2017 9:47 PM  

In really important news we George Clooney back here in the Trump Tyranny

Even Clooney doesn't believe his own rhetoric, none of them do, only conservatives

Blogger tuberman July 06, 2017 9:54 PM  

"The other Vox has declared his speech to be "Alt Right"."

This is why history and the Left will move things more to the Alt-Right, as it will be defined as anyone who is White or loves the West more and more.

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 9:55 PM  

they should be posting odds in British sportsbooks on which EU traitors will hang

Anonymous RCFlyer July 06, 2017 9:56 PM  

Felix Bellator wrote:Whom the God Emperor destroys he first makes mad.....

Perfect.

Blogger tuberman July 06, 2017 9:56 PM  

And, eventually all Christians may be defined as Alt-Whatever too.

Blogger tuberman July 06, 2017 10:00 PM  

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Blogger Lazarus July 06, 2017 10:04 PM  

Compare this with Obama's Arab Spring speech.

Will the MSM even cover this event?

Have not seen it yet.

Blogger Lazarus July 06, 2017 10:05 PM  

andon wrote:they should be posting odds in British sportsbooks on which EU traitors will hang

Why, all of them, of course.

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 10:12 PM  

Why, all of them, of course.

how far to go though?

barbara lerner-specter?
king of norway? "there's no such thing as a Norwegian"
a rabbi in israel gloating over the invasion of "Old Europe"?
george clooney?
jk rowling?

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 06, 2017 10:19 PM  

Yes I have been noticing that all the numbers are generally heading upwards at a steady, or even an alarming, pace.

"Clickbait" indeed!

Blogger Lazarus July 06, 2017 10:32 PM  

andon wrote:how far to go though?



all of them. it will discourage the neophytes.

Blogger Lazarus July 06, 2017 10:34 PM  

andon wrote:how far to go though?

Actually, it should start with your list. If you have any others you would like to add, feel free.

Anonymous Ezekiel Cassandros July 06, 2017 10:34 PM  

"And, eventually all Christians may be defined as Alt-Whatever too."

Well, it DID start as an Alt-Jew movement.

What you describe will not happen until the Churchians start calling themselves something else, finally casting off the sheeps' clothing, or the faithful start calling themselves something else. I expect the former.

Blogger modsquad July 06, 2017 10:36 PM  

VD wrote:Don't be a moron. To claim it "means nothing" is abjectly stupid. If you're going to be a whiny defeatist, go do it somewhere else.

If you have a problem with tigers killing people in your village, and you spend all your time going after the leopards, then you haven't dealt with your true enemy. I'm not being a defeatist, I'm saying those things with spots on their coats are not tigers.

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 10:36 PM  

I want to see Nuremberg II - jews and traitors on trial

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 06, 2017 10:44 PM  

Go hunt your own tigers, you lazy bastard.

Blogger Tom K. July 06, 2017 10:59 PM  

@12 "Walls were great, but then came the invention of the scaling ladder."

You're not recognizing the actual problem our Wall is to address. We aren't defending against armed invaders, but parasites. They lack the motivation, the stomach, and the skills to create any kind of successful, systematic breaching of any wall. Even in the places where tunnels have been dug, how many actually used them to cross?

Also, look at how much border crossings are down just since Trump was elected! Look at the numbers being reported as "self-deporting" just since ICE has finally been allowed to do its job.

We can be certain a wall, any wall, will be effective because of how hysterical even the idea makes our enemies.

Blogger Elocutioner July 06, 2017 11:05 PM  

@30 Tom K. - The wall will stop a lot of that unregulated free trade with Mexico, namely heroin.

Blogger Tom K. July 06, 2017 11:16 PM  

Vox, in the Darkstream you talk about the Church needing to be restored. I haven't come to a decided judgment yet, but what I am learning about Orthodoxy is sounding better and better, as it is for more and more American Christians disillusioned with the American Protestant Church.

I am intrigued with the Eastern Orthodox World's unbroken chain of Bishopric succession since the times of their various foundings by the earliest missionaries, including Paul founding the Greek Church. I have not read enough to learn of their internal struggles to stay true to the Gospel, but I have never heard they had anything approaching the scandals the Roman Church had. Not to mention the debauchery, heresy, and apostasy in the modern protestant church!

I don't know if you know anything about him, I haven't listened to him in decades, but Hank Hanagraft, The Bible Answer Man, has recently converted to Orthodoxy and is suffering the wrath of fundamentalists all across the country.

If anyone knows anything personally about orthodoxy I'd be interested in hearing about it.

Blogger Wolfman at Large July 06, 2017 11:32 PM  

Based Poland: because a country that gets invaded every twenty years is going to understand that borders are important.

OFF TOPIC:
Because so many key mid-level people at CNN are SJWs and top management is too arrogant and out of touch to stop them we should expect plenty of double downs. Get the popcorn ready because it will happen.
https://wolvesandmen.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/day-two-of-the-cnn-4chan-war/

Blogger SirGroggy July 06, 2017 11:36 PM  

VOX,
You made some very brilliant and original observations in the darkstream. Keep up the great work. I think you should go on YouTube like Stef and talk to the camera like you already do (YouTube has live stream also), and start a Patreon just specifically to fund your YouTube videos, so it is self-funded and separate from your usual business. Anita Sarkeesian tried to get Sargon kicked from Patreon but Patreon did NOT give in to SJWs, and Sargon was left alone. There is a rumour going around that Patreon converged but that is FALSE.

Blogger Wanderer July 06, 2017 11:37 PM  

@32
Orthodox, like the Catholics, believe that you have to earn your way into Heaven through doing good works. Just because it's less corrupt and scandalized than the Catholic Church, and just because it's less cucked and Judaized than the mainstream Protestant Church, doesn't suddenly make it okay. It you want a church that is uncucked, uncorrupted, and teaches the Gospel correctly, then go find a small, fundamentalist, independent, KJV-only, non-501c3 tax-exempt, Baptist church.

Blogger Wanderer July 06, 2017 11:39 PM  

@34
Bro, Patreon is converged as hell. Didn't they also kick Brittany Pettibone off for "being a nationalist".

http://www.returnofkings.com/125075/patreon-employee-aaron-ringgenberg-publicly-supports-antifa-domestic-terrorist-organization

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass July 06, 2017 11:41 PM  

It's a delaying action. It delays them long enough for Border Patrol to pick them up. Trump is hiring new BPAs like crazy. I'm in the process to become one right now actually.

Blogger Deplorable July 06, 2017 11:50 PM  

@32: That can go way off-topic if you want detailed answers.
What I did is read/watch online sources, then visit local churches to speak with real Orthodox in person.
Do you have any specific questions?

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 07, 2017 12:08 AM  

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Anonymous Difster July 07, 2017 12:09 AM  

At 11:00 PM Central, the Darkstream shows there has been 9.1k viewers. Very impressive.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 07, 2017 12:21 AM  

Sidehill Dodger wrote:Not saying it can't be done, but it's not just bricks and mortar.

Bricks and mortars and machine guns and howitzers and claymores ... I love fireworks.

Blogger Vikki Wilson July 07, 2017 12:22 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:The part that Vox called an "alt-Right manifesto" was Trump listing "family, freedom, country and God" as fundamental Western values.

That means everybody is alt-Right now.


Hilarious. I'm starting to understand why CNN felt it entirely appropriate to hunt down a private citizen who made a joke.

Anonymous andon July 07, 2017 12:25 AM  

There is a rumour going around that Patreon converged but that is FALSE.

Patreon has kicked off lots of Alt-Right, like TRS type podcasters.
Exodus Americanus got the boot just last week.

Alt-Lite types seem to be safe for now

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 07, 2017 12:36 AM  

Wanderer wrote:Orthodox, like the Catholics, believe that you have to earn your way into Heaven through doing good works.
That is so wrong it's hard to contemplate. I realize that's the lie you've been told, but you don't have to repeat it.

Blogger papabear July 07, 2017 1:09 AM  

32. Check out Orthodoxy and Heterodoxy by Andrew Stephen Damick or check out the podcasts at Ancient Faith Radio.

Blogger Matthew July 07, 2017 1:17 AM  

Felix Bellator wrote:Whom the God Emperor destroys he first makes mad.....

Whom the God Emperor destroys, he first calls "Sad!"

Blogger Matthew July 07, 2017 1:19 AM  

Sidehill Dodger wrote:Walls were great, but then came the invention of the scaling ladder.

I see a vision... it's coming clear now... it's... it's miles after miles of vast helices of cyclone wire.

Blogger Matthew July 07, 2017 1:20 AM  

modsquad wrote:VD wrote:Don't be a moron. To claim it "means nothing" is abjectly stupid. If you're going to be a whiny defeatist, go do it somewhere else.

If you have a problem with tigers killing people in your village, and you spend all your time going after the leopards, then you haven't dealt with your true enemy. I'm not being a defeatist, I'm saying those things with spots on their coats are not tigers.


Gamma.

Blogger CYPHER July 07, 2017 2:20 AM  

This, the first step of the GE is massive. He's the first President in my lifetime to firmly plant himself as pro west. Arguably Alt-Right. Hints of Martell I see.

Blogger CYPHER July 07, 2017 3:05 AM  

Spectre is Kill. How does she say what will happen in white European countries? Answer? Hubris. This is (((their))) strategic foot falls. Once again they invite the hammer, never aware of the suanami flying to their doom. We, as Alt-Right, must hold. Soon we can exercise true power.

Blogger Wanderer July 07, 2017 3:06 AM  

@44
No, it's not wrong. Orthodoxy is just more clever at it than Catholicism. Orthodox Christianity says that you're saved by grace through faith, sure, but then it also claims that good works and faith go together, and that a truly saved person must have good works. It's a subtle, backdoor works-salvation.

Blogger CYPHER July 07, 2017 3:11 AM  

Regardless, ground penetration radar teams can locate tunnels and engineer explosive rewards. Zero breech of the castle.

Blogger CYPHER July 07, 2017 3:42 AM  

I would argue no. It's a middling move to subvert what they fear most. An organized Christian defense of the West.

Blogger CYPHER July 07, 2017 3:46 AM  

Alt-Tech is the path. Then BTFO all degeneracy.

Anonymous Raw Cringe July 07, 2017 4:34 AM  

>the only church ever to get it right since Jesus
>small, fundamentalist, independent, KJV-only, non-501c3 tax-exempt, Baptist church

now that's what I call shitposting

Anonymous User July 07, 2017 4:59 AM  

We want God!

Blogger wreckage July 07, 2017 5:39 AM  

Scaling ladders are great, but then came the invention of the drone, motion-sensor cameras, and wireless networking.

The wall could be monitored entirely by /pol/ at no cost to the government.

Blogger Resident Moron™ July 07, 2017 6:24 AM  

Gonorrhoea, according to WHO; vast majority of infections are in "poor countries".

New resistant forms coming to a rapefugee victim near you.

Oh, and of course "vaccines will be necessary"

Who could have guessed?

Reads like a repeat of the decimation of the Native American indians ...

Anonymous LurkingPuppy July 07, 2017 6:35 AM  

wreckage wrote:The wall could be monitored entirely by /pol/ at no cost to the government.
And the only possible reason to put solar panels on it is as part of the power supply system for game components (sensors, gun turrets, anti-personnel lasers, anti-tank missiles, etc.). Run it as a free-to-play, pay-to-shoot MMO and it'll fund its own maintenance.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy July 07, 2017 6:44 AM  

Resident Moron™ wrote:New resistant forms [of gonorrhoea] coming to a rapefugee victim near you.
Oh, and of course "vaccines will be necessary"

Just like the Mexican hordes made a herpes vaccine necessary. I wonder if our enlightened leaders will let the Aschen develop this one too.

Blogger ZhukovG July 07, 2017 7:04 AM  

@Wanderer: Each of your posts, off topic by the way, seem to be attempts to create or exacerbate points of contention among our allied forces.

What's your agenda?

As for President Trump:

Ad Victoriam!
Ave Imperator Trump!

Blogger SirGroggy July 07, 2017 7:18 AM  

@36 A quick google search shows that Brittany Pettibone is still on Patreon.

@43 I didn't know about that.

However it seems to be exaggerated as Pettybone, Tara McCarthy and Sargon are still on.

Blogger SirGroggy July 07, 2017 7:22 AM  

https://www.patreon.com/guidelines

Bullying, Harassment, Threats and Hate Speech

Patreon should feel like a safe place for normal people. We don’t allow bullying or harassment on Patreon. At the same time, we want people to be able to express themselves, be critical, and discuss controversial issues. We recognize that discussing celebrities, media or other public figures can sometimes involve harsh criticism, and we believe that is an appropriate part of free debate. That said, there is no room on Patreon for hate speech or serious threats of violence. For us, hate speech includes serious attacks on people based on their race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, sex, gender, sexual orientation, age, disability or serious medical condition.


Any time somebody uses the term 'hate speech' my teeth start to grind.
These people and all of their ilk must be destroyed somehow.

Blogger SirGroggy July 07, 2017 7:23 AM  

Patreon should feel like a safe place

For FUCK'S SAKE it is a FUCKING WEBSITE not a "place"!!! These people are the worst!!!!!

Blogger modsquad July 07, 2017 7:46 AM  

Matthew wrote:modsquad wrote:VD wrote:Don't be a moron. To claim it "means nothing" is abjectly stupid. If you're going to be a whiny defeatist, go do it somewhere else.

If you have a problem with tigers killing people in your village, and you spend all your time going after the leopards, then you haven't dealt with your true enemy. I'm not being a defeatist, I'm saying those things with spots on their coats are not tigers.


Gamma.


And a (((banker's agent))) walks into a tiger trap out of his own volition. They're easy to hunt when you know what they look like.

Anonymous Avalanche July 07, 2017 9:27 AM  

@12 "We need defense in depth.
Not saying it can't be done, but it's not just bricks and mortar."

Uh, you left off the "s" -- should be:

bricks and MORTARS

Hail the God Emperor!

Anonymous BBGKB July 07, 2017 10:16 AM  

All of this means nothing until he goes after the central bankers.

TRUMP & Ron Paul are the only politicians who have ever talked about auditing the FED.

Walls were great, but then came the invention of the scaling ladder. So the reality is now that walls have to be defended.

One granny with a mosin nagant is all you will need if you are willing to let the bodies lay on the other side of the wall.

Anonymous Jack July 07, 2017 11:28 AM  

@51 The idea that faith and good works don't go together can be very appealing, because if my faith actually has to manifest as something real, then that might show its weakness. But if my faith is only in my mind, then it's as strong as I imagine it to be, and I can keep on being the Secret King.

Gamma theology, and not a good basis for a society.

Blogger stuff July 07, 2017 11:29 AM  

From a Rod Dreher piece:

Don’t misunderstand me here. The West is certainly no utopia, nor ever has been. It is necessary to criticize ourselves constructively, for the sake of growing in virtue. But that is not what these people are doing. By anathematizing any and all who cherish the culture and history of the West, they will ultimately force conservatives to embrace Reaction as the only bastion of resistance to their nihilistic crusade. But they don’t see it anymore than the Social Justice Warriors grasp that their militant illiberalism is calling up and equal and opposite reaction from the people they have demonized.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/yes-they-really-do-despise-their-civilization/

Blogger Cail Corishev July 07, 2017 11:37 AM  

@69, Shame on me for letting you sucker me into trying to read a Dreher piece. Will cucks like he and Douthat ever be able to write a piece without taking snide shots at Trump even while they're agreeing with him?

Yeah, I know, silly question.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 07, 2017 12:53 PM  

Wanderer wrote:No, it's not wrong. Orthodoxy is just more clever at it than Catholicism. Orthodox Christianity says that you're saved by grace through faith, sure, but then it also claims that good works and faith go together, and that a truly saved person must have good works. It's a subtle, backdoor works-salvation.
I just love it when anti-Catholics, who have not a single clue of Catholic exegesis, tell me what I believe.
You are literally so wrong, it's as if I were to say "Baptists worship snakes."

Anonymous patrick kelly July 07, 2017 1:12 PM  

stuff wrote:From a Rod Dreher piece:

Don’t misunderstand me here. The West is certainly no utopia, nor ever has been. It is necessary to criticize ourselves constructively, for the sake of growing in virtue. But that is not what these people are doing. By anathematizing any and all who cherish the culture and history of the West, they will ultimately force conservatives to embrace Reaction as the only bastion of resistance to their nihilistic crusade. But they don’t see it anymore than the Social Justice Warriors grasp that their militant illiberalism is calling up and equal and opposite reaction from the people they have demonized.

....


I posted the following comment, we'll see if it passes moderation:

Christianity is necessary for Western Civilization, but it is not sufficient.

Rule of law, high trust community, long time preference are also necessary. And it is Christianity that accelerated, if not originated, these as foundations of the civilization.

Remove Christianity, or become increasingly hostile or indifferent to it, and the others will fall eventually.

Only those who cherish, support, and help build such a civilization should be embraced and allowed to join it as equal participants.

Not all populations and cultures are capable of building or sustaining such a civilization. For all its human faults and failures, I still prefer it to all others, and consider those opposed to it enemies to be wary of or fight against if necessary.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 07, 2017 1:18 PM  

"Wanderer wrote:@44

No, it's not wrong. Orthodoxy is just more clever at it than Catholicism. Orthodox Christianity says that you're saved by grace through faith, sure, but then it also claims that good works and faith go together, and that a truly saved person must have good works. It's a subtle, backdoor works-salvation.
"

Uh, no, as and Orthodox Christian I will say you are wrong, maybe so wrong you're not even wrong. I will grant you that we do not have an expressed theology regarding works vs. faith that you would likely agree with even if you understood it. Definitely wouldn't fit in a chick tract.

The problem is the western christian, especially protestant, experience with these subjects is firmly bound and framed by years of protestant vs. catholic debates and discussions.

You are not special in this regard.

Anonymous patrick kelly July 07, 2017 1:25 PM  

Tom K. wrote:...
If anyone knows anything personally about orthodoxy I'd be interested in hearing about it.


Matthew (formerly automatthew?) has an email for me, maybe he or Vox can get it to you. I'm not here to proselytize, but I do chime in with my Orthodox 2c worth sometimes.

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