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Thursday, July 06, 2017

Unimpressed

Dear humans,

That's a cute little light show you've got there. Check this out.

Love,
Nature



Meanwhile, on the place where brain cells go to die, another futile sally into the Vast Chasm of Clueless Midwittery.

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
SJWs go to one extreme, sacrificing the organization's interests to their ideals. Too many on the Right go to the other extreme. Mistake.

Rudolf Mikler‏ @shoaahh
Horseshoe theory amrite lolololol  look at me so edgy.

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
No. Horseshoe means the two extremes come together. In this case, the two extremes behave in an opposite manner.

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Anonymous Coal Fired Brisket July 06, 2017 9:51 AM  

As a member of a far right group I would be interested to hear you expand on the extreme mistakes the right goes to. From what I've seen most of the errors of white nationalism 1.0 have been abandoned.

Blogger Sam July 06, 2017 9:59 AM  

@1
I assume it is treating whites as a single ethnic group and attempting to turn Nazism into Christianity v2. I assume that you are aware of that but we do have individuals who haven't quite grasped that.

Anonymous The Smoking Man July 06, 2017 10:01 AM  

perhaps you should email Vox, and if he is feeling magnanimous, he may make it a Mailvox post

Anonymous Forrest Bishop July 06, 2017 10:07 AM  

There's something else depicted, an Armada in the sky. test-

What holds the clouds up? They say that water vapor rises like steam, but steam is hot and clouds are very cold. When water vapor is cold, it doesn’t rise, it sinks. Yet every square kilometer of overcast is as massive as an aircraft carrier, hanging up there in the sky, bigger than an alien mothership. We know that just from adding up their rainfall.

We also know the clouds follow the general contours of the gaps in Heaviside’s capacitor, the one that encloses the entire Earth. We don’t really know what a capacitor is, but we do know that it holds something we call electricity. We don’t really know what electricity is, but sometimes we can see its effects when a capacitor breaks down and arcs over.

We also know that when the clouds run out of electricity they fall to the ground:
First comes the lightning, then comes the rain.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 06, 2017 10:09 AM  

Coal Fired Brisket wrote:... the extreme mistakes the right goes to.

``SJWs go to one extreme, sacrificing the organization's interests to their ideals. Too many on the Right go to the other extreme. ''

If the SJWs are sacrificing the org for their ideals, wouldn't the opposite be to sacrifice their ideals for the org? E.g., cucks sacrificing women's restrooms for the good of the GOP.

Blogger CM July 06, 2017 10:13 AM  

Are we talking extreme general "right" or conservative right?

Because it seems to me that the cuckservatives are doing exactly the same thing - sacrificing country to principles.

Could you elaborate, please?

Anonymous BBGKB July 06, 2017 10:14 AM  

No. Horseshoe means the two extremes come together.

Perhaps whore's new shoe theory is starting to come into play for the coalition of the fringes, CA democrats get death threats for not coughing up enough gib me dats payoffs.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267163/california-democrat-faces-death-threats-left-lloyd-billingsley

Blogger SirGroggy July 06, 2017 10:30 AM  

That guy has 500k more followers than you.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 10:37 AM  

While it is a mistake to view whites as a single group, it is not a mistake to note that our enemies do see us in that fashion and all variations of whites share a common interest in that matter. I understand that French and British identities will never be interchangeable (or at minimum any time in the near future) but anti-whites do not make such distinctions. It behooves white identitarians to understand that European identities aren't interchangable, but it behooves Europeans to understand that in the eyes of the anti-white, they are.

Anonymous VFM #6306 July 06, 2017 10:44 AM  

I think that's a 5-star review by the natural order for Brings the Lightning.

Or, as John Piper might say, "Boy did Judeo Christ really punch Earth right in the face for no reason apparent to puppet mortals!"

Blogger Sam July 06, 2017 10:49 AM  

Of course. Concentric loyalties. Side with those most similar to you against those who want you dead. The important thing to remember is it is a war measure; you can't build a society on it in the long run which is an important consideration when a good portion of the enemies are internal. You'll need mechanisms for rooting out dangerous abnormals and the issue is what counts as abnormal varies between ethnic groups. The more ethnicities covered, the less exact it can be and more narcissistic sociopaths slip through.

There is a limit to how genetically distant you can be and still hold together as a single group under stress. I have no idea how big it is or how it works; China manages to hold together a billion people and the British lost Ireland.

Blogger VD July 06, 2017 11:29 AM  

it behooves Europeans to understand that in the eyes of the anti-white, they are.

Why and how? What are the Brits going to do about Muslims in Spain?

Anonymous Damn Crackers July 06, 2017 11:33 AM  

Amazing. I've been listening to Ben Shapiro having to explain why CNN made a lousy decision in blackmailing the reddit poster. Beck claims CNN should have done more to dox the guy, because he's a Nazi.

How bad are things in Beck world when Ben Shapiro is the voice of un-Cucked reason?

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 11:48 AM  

The how is simple. There is no shortage of direct quotes on anti-whiteness. The undiscerning nature of the anti-white is as trivial an observation as one could possibly observe and the number of direct quotes that establish it are so damn numerous that it defies belief. The why is simply because any information as to the mindset of the enemy is beneficial, even if it can't be immediately capitalized on. As far as what the Brits are going to do about the Muslims in Spain, it is the responsibility of the Brits to remove/neutralize the power of the Muslims in Britain. If and when their Muslim problem is solved/reduced, they can offer aid to the Spanish. I'm not saying every European is responsible for every European, I don't want to degrade or oppose the fact that they help their own first. I'm merely noting that the two observations don't contradict. The fact that Europeans (rightfully) don't see themselves as interchanegable does not impact the fact that to the anti-white, they are. In the eyes of the anti-white, or the anti-West, the particulars of the individual member of the group are irrelevant. This knowledge is valuable to simply understand why appeasement is a bad strategy. I don't see any points at which we are in disagreement.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 11:51 AM  

I failed to make clear that comment 9 was in response to comment 2. It wasn't in opposition to anything in the OP or even anything in comment 2.

Blogger VD July 06, 2017 12:00 PM  

I don't see any points at which we are in disagreement.

The point of disagreement is on the idiotic insistence on a nonexistent "white identity" in Europe. That will not happen.

Americans think in terms of black and white. Europeans don't. To them, "European" essentially means "white". However, they've had 50 years of globalists pushing "European identity" in order to impose a vast Eurofascist state on them. So, nationalism and national identities are on the rise.

Those nations will ally, as needed, to defend Europe and to defend Christianity, as we're already seeing in Poland. But that is an alliance, not an identity. See the difference?

So, saying "well, by white nationalism and white identity we really mean separate nations, blah blah blah" is no-sale in Europe. Because they've already endured a similar sales job. The answer is STOP TALKING ABOUT WHITE THIS AND THAT and start talking about NATIONALISM.

Of course, Americans don't like to do that because of their own issue with civic nationalism. Which is why it should be easier to appreciate the European allergies.

I agree that the problem is resolvable, but Americans have to stop trying to impose their inappropriate rhetoric on Europeans.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 12:07 PM  

Those nations will ally, as needed, to defend Europe and to defend Christianity, as we're already seeing in Poland. But that is an alliance, not an identity. See the difference?

I don't understand why white Americans can't have a similar "alliance" against the brown Marxist hordes. Even if, say, Southerners, Midwestern Germanics, New Englanders, Mormons, and such are definitely separate nations. Voting Republican would appear to be an indication of being a member of this "alliance".

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 12:10 PM  

Americans think in terms of black and white. Europeans don't. To them, "European" essentially means "white". However, they've had 50 years of globalists pushing "European identity" in order to impose a vast Eurofascist state on them.

I wonder if it makes a difference that the EUSSR has changed the meaning of "European" from "white" to "anybody who happens to be living in Europe".

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 12:14 PM  

I agree that Americans have to stop trying to impose the notion of white identity on Europe. The first part of that statement was that it behooves white identitarians to think that Brits, Spaniards, Frenchmen and such will see each other as interchangable whites. I do not subscribe to that idea. However, it remains true that in the eyes of the anti-West, they are all enemies.

The two ideas do not contradict. But Poland also serves as an example as to a European nation being criticized for being the wrong kind of Europe. I understand fully that Poland had the choice of either abiding by EU dictates that they either share in the misfortune visited upon the rest of Europe or defying said dictates and facing consequences. They correctly chose the latter. However the fact that various European nations are taking the piss on Poland for being the "wrong kind of European nation" seems to suggest, if not conclude, that they think there is a kind of European nation that will appease the anti-West. If I am mistaken, demonstrate how.

I also believe that nationalism > pannationalism insofar as local > national > international. I do not subscribe to the idea that white identity should displace nationalism.

I fully understand the difference between an alliance of independent parties and the submission of two (or more) independent parties to a third party. The former is a superior choice to the latter for a host of reasons. I concur.

Every statement you have made, I agree with. Just answer me one question and I think we have a resolution.

Do you agree that in the eyes of the anti-West, there is no right kind of Western nation? Yes or no, why or why not?

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 12:15 PM  

to not think*

Blogger VD July 06, 2017 12:18 PM  

Do you agree that in the eyes of the anti-West, there is no right kind of Western nation? Yes or no, why or why not?

Yes. Because the anti-West hates the white race, the European nations, and Christianity.

Blogger Cail Corishev July 06, 2017 12:21 PM  

I don't understand why white Americans can't have a similar "alliance" against the brown Marxist hordes.

We can. But it'll happen more naturally if people aren't running around yelling about "white nationalism." White Americans don't want to hear that, even as they vote for it and restructure their communities to achieve it. Let it happen organically.

The mistake of both the alt-White and the civic nationalists is in trying to force a stronger bond than what exists -- the alt-White between whites, the civic nationalists between all Americans. When you try to make people feel a bond that isn't real, they resist it, and pretty soon the conversation is all infighting between Southrons and Yankees, 1.0 and 2.0 Americans, etc. It's not productive.

Blogger VD July 06, 2017 12:25 PM  

However, it remains true that in the eyes of the anti-West, they are all enemies.

And what are they called by the enemies? "Crusaders". So, if an identity is formed by the enemy, it will be a WHITE CHRISTIAN one, not merely a white one. The pagan elements of the Alt-White try to deny this, simply on the basis of their own biases, against their own logic.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 12:33 PM  

I don't think we ever had a point of disagreement. Your recent stream criticizing IE for trying to push white identity on Europe convinced me. I hadn't thought about it that way before, but it rang true. For the record, I'm not a member of IE. I think white identitarianism can be good for America but bad for Europe. Most American whites are an amalgamation of various European heritages. As such, the two cases are not identical. But you're absolutely correct that Americans need to STFU about Europe, at least until the point that they have done sufficient research to contribute an informed perspective. This said, I am currently involved in various charities and organizations on behalf of the Afrikaaners/Boer and am researching/organizing various parties to help their plight. This would suggest that white identitarianism might be appropriate in some areas/circumstances and inappropriate in others. You have correctly noted recently that the USA is a multi-national empire, not a unified nation. As such, the question as to the value of white identity in the US is a different question than that of Europe. Also, various locations in the US have different problems to different degrees in regards to demographics and culture. Those who have the good fortune to live in localities with less problems who wish to assist residents of areas with more problems should be commended. In America, those of us who descend from Europe are all in this together. We've already been denationalized, we're playing from our position, the various European nations are playing from theirs.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 12:37 PM  

It is possible to be a white pagan and fight alongside white Christians in defense of either the people or their organizations. Just because I'm not Christian doesn't mean that I won't come to the battlefield when you come under attack. In the eyes of the enemy you described, I may as well be a Christian by virtue of my whiteness. This is how I can be a pagan and an asset to the Christians.

Anonymous Bowman July 06, 2017 12:54 PM  

VD your patience to stupidity is commendable.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 12:56 PM  

Forrest Bishop wrote:

What holds the clouds up? They say that water vapor rises like steam, but steam is hot and clouds are very cold. When water vapor is cold, it doesn’t rise, it sinks.

You, of all people, should know that cold is a relative term

@Matthew Funk
Pan-European identity is enemy of European nationalism. Pan-Europeanism is what they are fighting against, what is destroying and polluting their homelands and endangering their women.
If you are preaching Pan-European identity to a European Nationalist, you are trying to sell tumours to a cancer victim.

Blogger Matthew Funk July 06, 2017 12:59 PM  

Snidely,

I am doing no such thing. I agree that nationalism > pan-Europeanism for European nations. I merely noted that it is possible for various Europeans to correctly see themselves as nationalists first and for their enemies to fail to make the distinction. It is possible for Westerners to make internal distinctions amongst their own and anti-Westerners to make no such distinction. It is wrong for pro-Westerners to fail to make distinctions amongst the various nations, but it is also correct to note that anti-Westerners don't care what kind of Westerner you are.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 06, 2017 1:04 PM  

Forrest Bishop wrote:What holds the clouds up? They say that water vapor rises like steam, but steam is hot and clouds are very cold.
Clouds are warmER than their surroundings.  However, the cloud droplets are constantly falling through that warmer air, so it must be replenished somehow (e.g. by condensation of water).  When the cloud runs out of sources of heat, it vanishes.

You can see with your own eyes what happens as cloud droplets (even rain) fall into warmer air below.  They evaporate, sometimes completely.  As they do they cool the air and cause it to sink.  This is how you get microbursts.

Anonymous Gen. Kong July 06, 2017 1:33 PM  

How bitterly ironic that the Musloid army imported into Europe by her (((owners))) refer to the natives as "Crusaders", when the seat of the church which launched the Crusades is now just another bathhouse, which more ornate trappings. Yes, this is a real black pill. It's important to cpmprehend it though for in order for at least 12 to gather in his name to start the reconquista in earnest, the true nature of the present darkness of the present situation must be grasped. The Roman church was murdered on 8 December 1965 - sacrificed upon the altar of Babylon. That which is described by Barnhardt above are merely the maggots and other vermin swarming over its remains. Perhaps Poland is to be the place where Western Christianity can be resurrected.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 06, 2017 1:49 PM  

@23 VD @30 Gen. Kong

Yeah, the hajjis calling liberal and postmodernist Westerners "Crusaders" never made much sense to me. Although, the Alt-Retard does pretty much the exact same thing by insisting up and down that Judeo-Churchianity is Christianity.

Blogger SirHamster July 06, 2017 2:34 PM  

Matthew Funk wrote:While it is a mistake to view whites as a single group, it is not a mistake to note that our enemies do see us in that fashion and all variations of whites share a common interest in that matter.

It's not a mistake. "White" exists as an easy to use visual identifier and represents a certain genetic spectrum of humanity. It observably exists. But it does not provide a core identity to rally around.

That it may be an identity of sorts in America is only a symptom of how many have been cut off from their roots and lack for a stronger identity than what their anti-white enemies give them. (Not a problem for our Southrons)

The mistake isn't that there's a label "white" for a particular group. There is a white group of people. The mistake is thinking that the white group thinks of itself as the White Group. Only for a subset in America where they lack for a better identity.

For those who think they can forge a global White Group identity ... they're White Globalists, and an enemy of nationalists.

Anonymous BBGKB July 06, 2017 3:08 PM  

related to power:

DieVerseCity is Strength:

Forget needing a dozen smart white men to take out power to NYC, when all the affirmative action maintained infrastructure only needed

"a simple mylar metallic balloon from an Independence Day celebration. More than 1300 businesses and homes were without power, some for as long as 86 minutes while crews worked to repair the damage"

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/july-4-balloon-causes-brief-outage-in-southampton-village-1.13782114

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd July 06, 2017 3:19 PM  

BBGKB wrote:Forget needing a dozen smart white men to take out power to NYC, when all the affirmative action maintained infrastructure only needed


Was this a maintenance issue, or a kid with a balloon issue? Diversity is a weakness in a maintenance program, but I'm not seeing its effects here.

Blogger SirHamster July 06, 2017 3:38 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Was this a maintenance issue, or a kid with a balloon issue?

This demonstrates the vulnerability of the grid to random events, without deliberate enemy action. This reveals the level of fragility already in the infrastructure and the systems maintaining it.

Now throw a nastier black swan disaster at the system while continuing affirmative action on the workforce ... one day the power won't turn back on after 90 minutes, or a day, or at all.

Anonymous Clouseau July 06, 2017 4:03 PM  

"What holds the clouds up?"

Clouds are clusters of microscopic droplets of liquid water which have condensed on microscopic aerosol particulates when the local air temperature drops to the point where the water vapor fraction is at saturation. What holds the droplets up is that they are so small that their mass-to-surface-area ratio is so low that drag forces on them (due to viscosity of the air), dominate over inertial forces on them (due to gravity acting on their mass), which means they go with the air currents rather than fall at any appreciable speed. (They will have a drift speed slowly downward but their terminal velocity is negligible.) Sometimes they re-evaporate when the local air temperature increases again. Other times they aggregate due to random collisions. When they collide they combine because the net surface energy (due to surface tension effect) of one larger droplet is less than the sum for that of the two smaller droplets individually, so the aggregation is energetically favored. When combined droplets grow to a larger size their mass-to-surface-area ratio becomes greater due to the square-cube law, first discovered by Galileo Galilei. At a large enough size, the gravitational force on them due to their mass overwhelms the drag forces which have been dominating at smaller sizes, and they fall as rain.

Square-cube law:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Square-cube_law

Why different particles have different terminal velocities:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Terminal_velocity

Why the ratio of inertial forces, due to mass, versus drag forces, due to size, matters:

https://infogalactic.com/info/Reynolds_number

Rain is an example of a phenomenon that humans perceive to be somewhat orderly (i.e. a bunch of raindrops all falling in the same direction, i.e. down) emerging from a random process (microscopic water droplets colliding randomly with each other) combined with some basic laws of physics.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club July 06, 2017 4:07 PM  

The Twitter: where self-appointed pedants go to be proven wrong publicly, especially the ones who don't know the difference between "resistor" and "resister".

Anonymous Avalanche July 06, 2017 7:27 PM  

@4 "We also know that when the clouds run out of electricity they fall to the ground:"

Been listening to podcasts about the electric universe... When he points out the new stars as "beads on as string" we're seeing in stellar nurseries -- he points out there is no mechanism within gravity (and we ALSO don't know what that is!) that would create a multi-parsec 'string' of plasma -- oh! plasma -- you know ELECTRCITY!?

e.g.: http://www.holoscience.com/wp/alfven-triumphs-again-again/

Haven't yet formed an opinion on 'the electric universe' -- but it does seem to explain some things the orthodoxy can't handle.

Anonymous Avalanche July 06, 2017 7:35 PM  

@17 " Voting Republican would appear to be an indication of being a member of this "alliance"."

I didn't vote Republicuck: I registered Republickuck so I could VOTE TRUMP! I'm willing to see if an alliance with the lukewarm sorta-Right (oh hey, there's a rhetoric for the moderates?) might work, but I don't and won't trust them, because I can't rely on them to only shoot left!

Anonymous andon July 06, 2017 8:03 PM  

The Roman church was murdered on 8 December 1965 - sacrificed upon the altar of Babylon.

1965 was a bad year

Anonymous Forrest Bishop July 06, 2017 9:00 PM  

Avalanche wrote:Been listening to podcasts about the electric universe...

Haven't yet formed an opinion on 'the electric universe' -- but it does seem to explain some things the orthodoxy can't handle.


I'm loosely associated with the Thunderbolts circles. Here I'm pointing out some of the crazy in the mainstream gravity and tidal theories of Enceladus and the rings of Saturn-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTS0Vv3yS6U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia3_VsEAvk8

Some of them got a bit ruffled when I pointed out that electric current does not exist-
https://www.scribd.com/document/320890002/The-Forbidden-Equation-i-qc

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 06, 2017 10:03 PM  

@38  If electric currents were powering everything, why wouldn't we see the arcs going everywhere through the universe like continuous lightning bolts?

The "electric universe" is one of the most shattered of all crackpot ideas.

@41  So something you can measure repeatedly and reliably in a bunch of different ways "doesn't exist"?  Crackpot.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 06, 2017 10:29 PM  

Mr. Rational wrote:So something you can measure repeatedly and reliably in a bunch of different ways "doesn't exist"?  Crackpot.
He's saying that the mathematical models of how electricity works produce irrational results, and so cannot be accurate models, you f***ing moron.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 06, 2017 11:51 PM  

Mathematical models of how electricity works often involves complex numbers (literally "irrational results").  But these numbers describe physically real things with high accuracy.  The burden is on the crackpots, not on Tesla.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 07, 2017 12:30 AM  

It's Maxwell, not Tesla, and there is no Electricity Exemption in Algebra. These are not complex numbers, they are simple functions and ratios.
Predictive capability is no guarantee of accuracy. The Aboriginal hunters of Central Africa can predict with a fine degree of accuracy exactly how an animal will behave. If asked for an explanation of how they knew, they will provide an elaborate story based on tribal taboos, hierarchical relationships and family dynamics that is obviously false.

Newtonian Physics was amazingly predictive. Until it wasn't.

Anonymous Deplorable Winning July 07, 2017 1:59 AM  

Clouseau wrote:At a large enough size, the gravitational force on them due to their mass overwhelms the drag forces which have been dominating at smaller sizes, and they fall as rain.

This ancient model fails to account for the electromagnetic forces within and around clouds, among many other objections. Why does lightning precede the rain? Why the electric field strengths of thousands of V/m? What kept the droplets atomized before their condensation? Why did they all just all of a sudden decide to become raindrops? What held the hailstone up long enough for it to form?

Speaking of the rings of Saturn, behold-
https://cosmosmagazine.com/physics/how-electricity-pulls-a-drop-of-liquid-apart

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable July 07, 2017 3:37 AM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Those nations will ally, as needed, to defend Europe and to defend Christianity, as we're already seeing in Poland. But that is an alliance, not an identity. See the difference?

I don't understand why white Americans can't have a similar "alliance" against the brown Marxist hordes. Even if, say, Southerners, Midwestern Germanics, New Englanders, Mormons, and such are definitely separate nations. Voting Republican would appear to be an indication of being a member of this "alliance".


I have coined the term "subsidiarity nationalism" for that thing which grants liberty downstream and creates alliances upstream.

Anonymous Mr. Rational July 07, 2017 7:07 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:It's Maxwell, not Tesla, and there is no Electricity Exemption in Algebra.
Tesla applied Maxwell's theory.  Tesla's stuff works.  It's Tesla's insights into Maxwell's laws that are used every day to make our modern energy systems work.  And yes, they work according to the numbers.

If you're claiming the math is all wrong, you're proving that you're a member of the set MP.  (As if we needed any more.)

Newtonian Physics was amazingly predictive. Until it wasn't.
Newtonian physics is still used to calculate the paths of space probes.  Nobody bothered to use GR for any of it, from the Mercury shots to the probe to Pluto.  It wouldn't yield a result different enough to matter.

Deplorable Winning wrote:Why does lightning precede the rain?
As someone whose area got rained on for hours last week without a single stroke of lightning, I have to laugh at you.  You are living in a fantasy as silly as that of any SJW or BLM activist.

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