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Wednesday, August 30, 2017

#BoycottCampingWorld

A Fake American businessman, the CEO of Camping World, does not want Trump-supporting customers:
Marcus Lemonis: If you’re OK with what Trump said, don’t shop at my business

"There's no doubt that there is probably not many consumers in this country today that are in favor of what has been said in the last couple days and if they are, quite frankly, don't shop at my business," said Lemonis, who is CEO of Camping World and host of CNBC's "The Profit."

In a chaotic Tuesday news conference, Trump appeared to equate torch-bearing white nationalists with the protesters who demonstrated against them. Trump's statements led to a wave of CEO resignations from his advisory councils and on Wednesday, Trump abruptly dissolved the councils. Trump's announcement came shortly after a member of the Strategic and Policy Forum told CNBC the group had decided to disband.

Lemonis told "Power Lunch" he is "horrified" by what he's been hearing and seeing from this administration.

He said it's important that CEOs speak for themselves as individuals on policy and also speak for their companies as it relates to policy that affects their businesses. However, they should be very careful, he said. "I'm concerned about certain CEOs dancing on the fence, fearing retaliation or fearing something. It's scary right now," Lemonis said.
Now that #BoycottCampingWorld is trending, the Fake American born in Lebanon quickly retreated and apologized, only not really. It's a pathetic piece of groveling pity theatre in which Lemonis attempts to simultaneously mitigate the damage to his company while continuing to virtue-signal. If the Camping World board has any sense of self-preservation at all, it will demand his resignation before the end of the week.
When I came to this country as an infant I had no idea what would be in store for me. A place where most get a chance to succeed. With a loving family and a ton of luck I was given my shot. Now the road wasn't as easy as some think. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth but I was more fortunate than others in the sense of having two great parents, a roof, always food and clothing and provided a good education. During those years I had my own internal struggle like most do. Struggles that are kept secret in some cases and others than are out for all to see. As a kid, I was bullied. Now that doesn't make me special or require any special privilege but it does stick with you. As I grew up I knew I needed to be someone and do something. It was the only way I could prove to myself and others that I was worth more than they thought of me but quite frankly needed for my own mental health. I am much more insecure than people know. I get depressed, sad, scared etc. but who cares we all do.

Over the last 15 years I have been blessed to be part of building a business with people that believed in me. Something new for me. I was given a chance to build something that I could leave as a lasting legacy. Even though I started experiencing success, I never quite felt fulfilled. It's not about the money. I felt like I needed to do more, to contribute more. Thru those years I made mistakes. A lot of them. Struggled with personal relationships, mistreated friends, etc. I suppose that's human but I couldn't understand why. The last five years I spent my time working on my business but also dedicated my life to small business. It was a way for me to help the underdog. I never did it for the money or the attention but rather to fill a void. I felt like I had to do it to payback a place that gave me a break. I made plenty of mistakes during this process as well. Trusted people who I shouldn't have, made deals I shouldn't have and sometimes did it for the wrong reason. But who cares, we all make mistakes.

Over the last year I have, or at least I thought had, really grown. It's funny but in my mind, I had grown up. I felt like I needed to consider how serious things got around here. Everything became intense and confrontational. Skin started to thicken, tensions started to rise and heels dug in. I suppose it's more of a protective measure for me and probably others as well. Now in this moment no one person was to blame for this. I started having sensory overload. I'm sure over the last year I felt the need to be more careful, be less trusting and I maybe didn't even know it was happening. You watch tv and everyone is arguing. Yes, everyone. You drive in your car and everyone is aggressive. And mistakes are made. As a child being bullied didn't make me different or special it made me more sensitive, more forgiving, more focused and helping.

As I continued over the last several months to read, listen and observe I noticed that my conviction was weakening. I felt like I needed to just accept the way things are and move on. Which felt like a mistake. If you have noticed I have said mistake a bunch of times and I'm sure there are typos and grammar mistakes all over this free form written document. Sometimes those mistakes come out of my mouth. The mistake I made in the last week was not being clear. Do I wish that there was more speed of clarity and conviction around the violence? Yes Do I think that hate and violence has taken over everywhere? Yes

 Do I think one person is to blame? No Do I think that there are two sides to every story? Yes While I stand strong on my position that violence, hate, bigotry is unacceptable from anyone regardless of what side you are on and that all of us need to be accountable, only I am accountable for my actions.

Last week I gave my opinion on what had happened. I made the mistake of letting my fear and emotion talk about subjects that I shouldn't have. As the CEO of a business, I am responsible to take care of the people that work there. I opened my mouth and put them in harm’s way. While I know, that the headline published was taken out of context and I have to live with that.  There should have never been a headline and I gave a chance to live.

My apology is sincere. It is to my employees who have been forced to deal with this. I am nothing without you. I am here to serve, guide and protect you. I will work harder. Please forgive me. Please don't punish them. I apologize to anyone who has supported their cause, their political preference, their candidate, their beliefs. I was Not raised this way and have always been taught to respect everyone. This is a free county and my fears shouldn't be projected on anyone. I am asking for your forgiveness. I should have not disrespected that and will not again. I apologize to the people who have followed my show for years and have said they have learned so much and are inspired, who now say that have been let down and will never trust me again.

I DO NOT apologize to anyone who is in favor or hate, violence, bigotry or racism. And I will do my part to help eliminate it from both sides. One way I do that is by being an example. You are the reason I made this mistake. You took my common sense away and purpose. I will not let you beat me or beat me down. I am a man of conviction. Most of the time it's what people like about me. In this case it's quite the opposite. I have not written this because I worry about what it means to me financially, because that's normally the response I hear when I say I'm sorry. I have written this because I know what has been my purpose up to now, which is to help people and I want to be able to continue that. People make mistakes. Obviously, this past week I'm the poster child.
They will complain, of course, that we are taking their words out of context. That's really too bad. But the principle of fair play dictates that both sides are allowed to play by the same rules.


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158 Comments:

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable August 30, 2017 5:54 AM  

A brilliantly calibrated epic double-whammy miscalculation:

1) Metrosexuals and Fake Americans don't go camping, while white families from small towns totally do; and

2) The percentage of people who would support the President's position (if the media ever reported it honestly) is closer to 50 than 15.

This keeps getting more entertaining.

Blogger SirGroggy August 30, 2017 5:56 AM  

2) The percentage of people who would support the President's position (if the media ever reported it honestly) is closer to 50 than 15.

And many of those who would oppose are Fake Americans anyway. They count - but they shouldn't count.

Blogger Felix Bellator August 30, 2017 6:01 AM  

Lemonis is back to dancing on the fence with the rest of the CEOs it seems. What a loser. Paraphrased, "I didn't do it for the money, I did it to fill a void in my rotten soul. But now that my money is threatened, the void in my soul aches. And think of my poor employees!"

He certainly seems to favor Leftist approved hate, violence, bigotry, and racism. I wonder how many colors of the rainbow he employs?

He is the poster child all right, of Leftist idiocy. He is President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho.

Blogger Lazarus August 30, 2017 6:01 AM  

Also boycott "The Profit" (peace be unto it) on CNBC.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable August 30, 2017 6:01 AM  

They count - but they shouldn't count.

A very good point.

Blogger JACIII August 30, 2017 6:01 AM  

He has to go back.

What is it with business leaders who despise their customers' demographic? And are so oblivious they make sure the customers know? Have they talked so much about a "growing" market segment they forget "growing" doesn't mean "large"?

Blogger Felix Bellator August 30, 2017 6:04 AM  

"You took my common sense away and purpose."

How can we take away something your never had, and something else that is entirely internal to you? Did someone perform brain surgery on this guy? If so they botched the encephalectomy and left the speaking parts and the idiot parts intact.

Blogger Alexander Thompson August 30, 2017 6:05 AM  

He works for NBC... surprise.

Blogger Duh-ave August 30, 2017 6:11 AM  

Put America first or go back.

Blogger Timmy3 August 30, 2017 6:13 AM  

That apology is a lot of dancing on the pin of a needle where there's no room for two explanations. He didn't apologize actually. He made a mistake and didn't come clean. So I'll boycott Farrell's Ice Cream Parlor too.

Blogger Bastion Harm August 30, 2017 6:19 AM  

Marcus doesn't seem to realize that 99% of his customers are white people, the vast majority of whom probably voted for Trump.

Marcus better get started on Chapter 11 proceedings.

Blogger DaDZ August 30, 2017 6:25 AM  

Shitty, noncommittal apology. Also, rescued from the Lebanese civil war by a wealthy Greek couple. Grandpa owned the two largest Chevy dealerships in the U.S. and Lee Iacocca was a family friend. But besides that, no silver spoon at all.

Blogger L' Aristokrato August 30, 2017 6:26 AM  

There should be some sort of site, or app which catalogued, evaluated and graded businesses by the amount and degree of this kind of stuff/behavior displayed by their employers and employees; Complete with links to what they said/did. This way we could have an easier time deciding what to consume, and who to support or boycott.

Blogger Keyser Soze August 30, 2017 6:30 AM  

What a whiney little bitch. "I was bullied", "I mistreated people", "I started to grow up", Jesus enough true confessions!
Here's a clue, if your apology greatly exceeds the insult, your projecting and not sincere. Boycott'em.

Blogger WK August 30, 2017 6:32 AM  

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Anonymous Cyclone Bob August 30, 2017 6:44 AM  

"I felt", "I felt", "I felt", "I felt". Seven times he talks about his feelz. What a pathetic woman.

Anonymous Steve August 30, 2017 6:45 AM  

When life gives you Lemonis, send them back to Lebanon.

Blogger SouthRon August 30, 2017 6:47 AM  

This guy is the caricature of a low status Arab groveling before his effendi saying all manner of contradictory and stupid things just attempting to save his ass.

He's toast and he knows it.

Anonymous Cheshirych August 30, 2017 6:47 AM  

He seems to think he owns campingworld. While in reality its a public company and therefore not his.

Anonymous TheTruthIsNeverAcceptable August 30, 2017 6:48 AM  

Slightly Off Topic: Retort to leftists Cherry-picking their "evidence". Once thing the left is very good at is Cherry-picking whatever they need to support their narative. We see this especially with global warming/climate change, but the news does it all the time with Trump. Well I think this is a great retort to the practice.

If I only looked at the crack between your buttocks, I would accurately deduce that you are nothing but an a**hole.

How's that for Cherry-picking the "evidence"?

Anonymous basementhomebrewer August 30, 2017 6:55 AM  

The dirty little secret is he already did something stupid to sink his business, buying Gander Mtn. This was just icing on the cake.

It is an instructive lesson about what happens when a business starts hiring out of the CEO class rather than concentrating on finding people who have a passion for the industry the business operates in. I would be very surprised if Lemonis went camping more than a couple times before he became CEO of this company. Even then it was likely setting an RV up at a camp ground somewhere on the side of the road next to 50 other RVs.

Anonymous TD August 30, 2017 7:01 AM  

Evidently our census taker is Crom, considering the number of dead on the voter rolls.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 30, 2017 7:02 AM  

It would seem an idiotic action. Especially considering Trump supporters are probably a huge portion of his business.

Blogger ZhukovG August 30, 2017 7:03 AM  

Another psycho CEO. At least he's not murdering gay prostitutes, yet.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera August 30, 2017 7:08 AM  

It's too bad because he does good work with The Profit, but you could see the writing on the wall when he started bonding more with the immigrant workers over being an immigrant. Man is a political animal and when bellies are groaning politics gets nasty. I'd explain it to him if he'd listen.

Also nice head bro, build any pyramids lately?

Blogger Rick August 30, 2017 7:09 AM  

"Trump's statements led to a wave of CEO resignations from his advisory councils and on Wednesday.."

I reject that explanation. Fake News.

Every time a leftist whines,
Trump gets another donation.

Direct your daily spending from Wall Street to Main Street businesses.

Blogger Ken Prescott August 30, 2017 7:11 AM  

"Marcus Lemonis: If you’re OK with what Trump said, don’t shop at my business"

Tell at least half of your prospective customers to go bugger themselves. Bold move, Cotton, let's see how it pays off.

Anonymous Sven Wrenwick August 30, 2017 7:16 AM  

buy lots of stuff from camping world, then return it in a week, opened. repeat.

Blogger Ken Prescott August 30, 2017 7:18 AM  

"What is it with business leaders who despise their customers' demographic?"

Damfino.

Way back when, Michael Jordan got asked why he just donated money to Democrat candidates, why didn't he throw his star power behind them, too?

His response: "Republicans buy shoes, too."

Common sense is so rare these days, it's become a freakin' superpower.

Anonymous qba August 30, 2017 7:18 AM  

Given how much I liked his show, it really is quite disappointing that he had to give that garbage 'apology' after spewing his 'muh racism' idiocy. One more on the 'your American self-interest is bad, but my paper-American $elf-interest isn't' campfire, as if more fuel were needed. His mantra of people, process and product surely has a better ring to it than the worker units, process and product he actually acted on here, but I'm sure he has himself convinced that's not how he really feels.

Blogger Elocutioner August 30, 2017 7:19 AM  

He went full Target. Never go full Target.

Anonymous Rocklea August 30, 2017 7:21 AM  

"This is a free county..."
Nope, it's a country for Americans.

"And I will do my part to help eliminate it from both sides."
Buy a one-way ticket to Lebanon.

@17 Steve
"When life gives you Lemonis, send them back to Lebanon."
He'll feel right at home, they have Christian president too.

Blogger SteelPalm August 30, 2017 7:23 AM  

Good God, what a painfully long-winded, confused, neurotic trainwreck of a letter. The man clearly isn't right in the head, even beyond being a Lebanese CEO who hates his white American customers.

Did no one at the company read his public letter and stop him? Either the first or the second time?

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2017 7:28 AM  

Clearly, the bullies didn't hit him hard enough.

Blogger Salt August 30, 2017 7:42 AM  

I'm rather surprised Mr. Lemonis didn't say "Please clap" at the end.

OpenID paworldandtimes August 30, 2017 7:45 AM  

He writes like a weepy woman, with the pronoun "I" all over the place, infancy regression memories, and feeelings galore.

Also, that "this is not OK!" no-gravitas CEO of Google from India comes to mind.

Are CEOs now figureheads, alphas need not apply?

PA

Blogger Stilicho August 30, 2017 7:47 AM  

I'd never heard of camping world before the Gander acquisition. Plenty of other, better places I can spend my not inconsiderable shooting/hunting/outdoors budget.

Blogger Sam Smith August 30, 2017 7:50 AM  

@VD w. t. f. That's like a gun store owner saying he does not want NRA members as customers.

@Rocklea it *is* a free country. He is free not to have any customers.

Imma go set up a restaurant and ban anyone over size 6.

Blogger Duke Norfolk August 30, 2017 7:54 AM  

There's a lot to be said, and others have done so, well.

I'll just say, that was paaaaathetic.

Accept that apology? No way. I look forward to hearing about him whining and sniveling on the streets - of Lebanon.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2017 7:57 AM  

Are MSNBC and CNBC converging? On a point to the left of 2016' MSNBC?

They can all fester on the dung pile with ESPN. At least Hallmark Channel's SJW dogma is mild & G-rated.

You know Wall Street has gone Full Retard (leftist) when its buy-side cheerleader echo chamber invites openly SJW "CEO's" squak politics.

Blogger Sherwood family August 30, 2017 8:00 AM  

Non-apology apology. If it had been real I might have cut him some slack for manning up and admitting his stupid move. But that was trash. He has to go back.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2017 8:03 AM  

Are CEOs now figureheads, alphas need not apply?

Insightful. Public corporations now clearly manifest the same matriarchal sentiments as politics. This aligns with their executives' behavior as old biddie schoolmarms wagging their finger at "misbehaving" boys, demanding they let the fat girl play quarterback.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 30, 2017 8:06 AM  

This MENA is typical of fake American businesspeople:

He wants our wallets open and our mouths shut.

Blogger Bob Ramar August 30, 2017 8:08 AM  

So, Mr. Lemonis does not any business from 'Trump' supporters? This is great timing for me since I am in the market for an RV and was going shopping today. Camping World is the first place I was going to go but after this I think I will give them a miss. There are three other competitors in my market so missing them won't affect my choice.

Yeah, the Board needs to free up his future. They don't need CEO's shooting off their mouth like this in public.

Blogger Demonic Professor El August 30, 2017 8:11 AM  

Let's see - Leftist CEO pandering to groups that don't shop at his store. Willingly sacrifices what probably amounts to 70% of his consumer demographic. (For example, look at the companies, retail or media, in dire fiscal straits and their pandering to groups that aren't white or Azn males. Terget doesn't seem to have a lot of white or Asian dudes in their ads...)

Scrumbuckets virtue signal like this when their numbers are already bad. Any takers on this guy's businesses tanking by the fourth quarter?

Anonymous NH August 30, 2017 8:11 AM  

Imagine working for this guy. It's hard to believe he rose to that level within a company. What a pussy.

Blogger Demonic Professor El August 30, 2017 8:14 AM  

Other note - "a lot of CEOs"...Hmm. Since some of Trump's major plans include auditing fake non-profits and ending regulatory capture, this shouldn't be a surprise that CEOs and companies that depended on governmental noblesse oblige hate him. Their party's over.

Elon Musk is probably the next to "withdraw" his support for Trump, or whatever.

Blogger Clay, Bill Clay August 30, 2017 8:17 AM  

Nice

Blogger Rick August 30, 2017 8:18 AM  

This guy is anti-MAGA.

Boycot's not good enough.

Find their competitors and make a "donation" there instead.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM August 30, 2017 8:20 AM  

Come on Vox, finish the sentence over his picture. Play fair. I know, you don't care! But it makes you look bad.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother August 30, 2017 8:24 AM  

Why are you looking between dudes' butt cracks?

Blogger Cail Corishev August 30, 2017 8:25 AM  

Sounds like this Fake American is also a Fake CEO: a TV analyst who larps as a CEO in his spare time.

Remember when we were told that all the major corporations that supported gay marriage only did it because businesses have to try to cater to everyone? We were assured it didn't mean they were taking sides, because everyone knows big business = right-wing conservative. It's just that the profit margin and their greed demanded tolerance of all customer viewpoints and lifestyles. "The customer is always right," so their hands were tied.

Yeah, so about that....

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2017 8:25 AM  

The original comment is two weeks old. The gun sites covered it then.

"The dirty little secret is he already did something stupid to sink his business, buying Gander Mtn. "

For what he got, it wasn't that stupid at all, if he had kept his mouth shut about politics.

He bought the Gander name, which he has already changed. The Overton Boats name and inventory at cost The Gander and Overton email and mailing lists. The Gander and Overton online sales setups. And the options on all the leases. He was planning on reopening 62 Gander locations with Overton and Camping World shoehorned in to the stores.
Gander's in-store stock was bought by a liquidation company.


If you are going to boycott, you need to add the Gander Outdoors locations that reopen, Overton Boats, and Good Sam Camping Club.

Blogger Amy August 30, 2017 8:30 AM  

Camping World is a major sponsor of NASCAR and even though NASCAR is becoming a laughable shell of its former self, it still draws flyover white eyeballs who, well, camp and stuff.

I worked for a small East Coast retailer of camping/climbing adventure gear for years. Customer base was mostly white liberals, though. Went into one of their stores recently, and it's basically now just a store to help hipsters signal their outdoor hipness with the right clothes. Not a climbing rope or locking carabiner to be seen. Camping stoves were shoved in the back, but the lifestyle shoes were front and center.

Retailers must know their market. Lemonidis doesn't, or thinks he can 1) change them or 2) change his customer demo. A larger retailer of niche consumer goods is not going to do that easily or quickly without buy-in from an existing base willing to drift leftwards.

He's done.

Oh and acquiring Gander Mtn. Had no idea Camping World owned them but as far as Gander goes, meh. I have a decent coat I bought there years ago but I was never impressed with their selection. I find I buy direct from the company lately. First Lite and Sitka Gear are excellent in quality and customer service. I'll pay more for their products to get those premiums.

Blogger modsquad August 30, 2017 8:36 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:

It is an instructive lesson about what happens when a business starts hiring out of the CEO class rather than concentrating on finding people who have a passion for the industry the business operates in. I would be very surprised if Lemonis went camping more than a couple times before he became CEO of this company. Even then it was likely setting an RV up at a camp ground somewhere on the side of the road next to 50 other RVs.


The HR department is no place to find a commander.

Blogger Roger G2 August 30, 2017 8:37 AM  

Love the meme. No such thing as a fair fight.
Hey, it only plays by rules set forth by others.
Context? The president never had a word he's said given the luxury of context when fearmongerers quote him.

Blogger Lobo Util August 30, 2017 8:42 AM  

I just listened to the whole interview. Lemonis never said it. If you listen to the topics presented, he never meant "Trump supporters", he meant the exact same folks that Trump condemned. If you reject folks taking Trump stupidly out of context like they did with Charlottesville, then don't take his opponents stupidly out of context in the exact same way.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise August 30, 2017 8:42 AM  

Did no one at the company read his public letter and stop him?

Stop him? Hell, they probably were happy as larks! It makes it that much easier for the board to fire him, because he's clearly a pussy-boy and a loon.

"This letter is fantastic, Marcus! Get it out there right away! Stop the bleeding!"

Blogger Lobo Util August 30, 2017 8:50 AM  

I know Vox already said that he gets to take quotes out of context in his post. Sure. But the quote about not wanting Trump supporters at Camping World was totally made up. If you make up quotes, you will soon have the same credibility as MSNBC, CNN, and my personal favorite, Don Lemon.

Anonymous Rocklea August 30, 2017 8:52 AM  

"I DO NOT apologize to anyone" is a fair quote, and it summarises all that he said quite nicely. It was a BNAP, what Stefan Molyneux calls the Bullsh@t Non APology.

With regards to the "free country" thing, it is not a free country, it is an occupied country. It's freedom from time now, not freedom to.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 30, 2017 8:53 AM  

NH wrote:Imagine working for this guy. It's hard to believe he rose to that level within a company. What a pussy.

Neurosis is energy, and energy provides focus and determination. You gotta figure something is driving those alt-left trainwrecks to get out of bed every morning.

My long-gone grandma used to have something nice to say about everybody. When she was asked if she had anything nice to say about the devil, she said "he's a hard worker".

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2017 8:53 AM  

Lemonis started his own RV sales company back in 2003. That company merged with Camping World, with Lemonis as the CEO in 2006 CW didn't go public till October 2016.

Blogger Dos Voltz August 30, 2017 9:03 AM  

He looks like a pederast. Who has secret rooms in his house.

Blogger Amy August 30, 2017 9:03 AM  

The facts of the mergers and acquisitions are great and worthy of consideration in other contexts but when Mark Martin cancels a $150K RV order due to your CEO making comments about not wanting your business...well.

Yeah, I know. Po dunk ain't nothing and who is Mark Martin anyway? You invest in AMZN and Google and have bigger fish to fry. But the frye are where the growth is.

Blogger James Dixon August 30, 2017 9:04 AM  

So, yet another company that I'd never heard of or planned to shop at anyway takes action to make sure that I'll never to so.

The list of CEO's attempting to commit corporate suicide by alienating their customer base is getting impressively long.

Seriously though, have modern CEO's completely forgotten that it's never a good idea to take such actions, did they never learn it, or are they just too stupid to realize who their customers are? Or should I embrace the power of and?

> I worked for a small East Coast retailer of camping/climbing adventure gear for years. Customer base was mostly white liberals, though. Went into one of their stores recently, and it's basically now just a store to help hipsters signal their outdoor hipness with the right clothes.

Sounds like American Eagle Outfitters.

> He's done.

Hopefully. That depends on the board and shareholders though.

Blogger James Dixon August 30, 2017 9:10 AM  

> I just listened to the whole interview. Lemonis never said it.

Then he needs to quit NBC and sue them for quoting him out of context. Do you see him doing so? He's never even claimed he was misquoted, even in his "apology".

Blogger Amy August 30, 2017 9:11 AM  

@ James Dixon, no. Eastern Mountain Sports.

American Eagle made no pretense of being solely about fashion. Before it was sold to a conglomerate, Eastern Mountain Sports catered to serious adventure enthusiasts. Not any longer. They like AE but with the only serious-enough edge of selling backpacking gear for those who really seek it out, but at the highest price they can get.

Blogger Robert Divinity August 30, 2017 9:16 AM  

Anyone who would debase himself to this degree no longer has any reason to live. If he were an actual man, Mr. Lemonis would engage in seppuku. He won't and Camping World will suffer grave damages for this diversity hire.

It is rich that an Arab was peddling tents, as an aside.

Blogger Elocutioner August 30, 2017 9:20 AM  

Embedded video at 30s:
"I [am] horrified by what [I'm] hearing and seeing from this administration."

His later comments at 1:20 are clearly talking about consumers who agree with Trump.

Don't try and parse his comments in the most favorable way possible. This isn't a court of law. For any honest non-autiste he clearly said what he said. Folks on the right were NEVER given the benefit of the doubt so now we don't extend it to the left. That's was the cuckservative way.

RIP Camping World.

Blogger bosscauser August 30, 2017 9:22 AM  

You'll save money. These people are about as expensive as Amazon...

Gab.ai/GaryCauser

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( You are Welcome ... to go back to the hell hole you came from ) August 30, 2017 9:24 AM  

44. Bob Ramar August 30, 2017 8:08 AM
Camping World is the first place I was going to go but after this I think I will give them a miss.



don't.

go there. use up a bunch of a salesman's time. ask a bunch of questions. get at least one quote.

then buy the unit somewhere else.

and send a letter detailing what you bought and why you chose not to buy it from CW to the Regional Manager.

Blogger bw August 30, 2017 9:27 AM  

There has to be something to this Lebanon thing.
My understanding is that well over half of the original signers of original United Nations schtuff were from that "special" community - as was Steve Jobs.

Blogger Elocutioner August 30, 2017 9:30 AM  

For his apology to have any real meaning he needs to define these terms:
"I DO NOT apologize to anyone who is in favor or hate, violence, bigotry or racism."

Because the "apology" sounded an awful lot like "please don't punish my business and employees for my politics but fuck you Trump supporters." The left has been busy trying to rewrite the definitions of "hate," "bigotry," and "racism" for decades now and they're trying to rewrite "violence" too. So, minus clarification of these terms, his apology is simply a doubling down. We've seen this act before.

Gee, I wonder what he'll do next...

Blogger bw August 30, 2017 9:33 AM  

...and of course we have 40 Acres and a Kardashian

Anonymous Chester August 30, 2017 9:36 AM  

white Christians the real terrorists in America. Not Muslims. Not BLM. It's you and your parasitic kids.

Blogger Lobo Util August 30, 2017 9:37 AM  

69. Elocutioner

Thank you for proving my point. He never said it. You are taking two phrases that are a minute apart and ignoring the rest of the context where he repeats over and over that a CEO should not make comments about politics.

And Elocutioner, I know you are worried. So I just want to let you know that I already heard you say, "The train is okay."

Blogger GraceIronwood August 30, 2017 9:42 AM  

Hilarious. Who does he think the customers are?
It's the Deplorables! Lol.

Blogger CynicalMan August 30, 2017 9:42 AM  

Any person or organization that supports Antifa and refuses to recognize the reality of leftist hate and bigotry has lost my support.

Blogger Dave August 30, 2017 9:45 AM  

Camping World is the title sponsor of NASCAR's Truck Series through 2022. Last year during the presidential campaign Lemonis demanded Nascar move their annual post-season award ceremony which had been scheduled on one of Trump's properties in Florida. Nascar acquiesced. Apparently Camping World didn't feel any backlash from Nascar fans then, let's see what happens now.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 30, 2017 9:48 AM  

By now even the spergiest should recognize when the word "racist" is used they mean White and nothing but White.

The left just begs to be discredited and disqualified but if they were not atheist scum bags they would be thanking the Lord for their conservative intellectual ankle grabber opposition.

Blogger CynicalMan August 30, 2017 9:48 AM  

Two more words; Holiday World.

Blogger Lazarus August 30, 2017 9:51 AM  

Lobo Util wrote:He never said it.

He Dindu Nuffin.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 30, 2017 9:52 AM  

The list of CEO's attempting to commit corporate suicide by alienating their customer base is getting impressively long.

We saw that with the gay marriage push, when nearly every major corporation I've ever heard of put a rainbow in its logo. It would be much easier to keep a whitelist of non-converged companies. I don't shop much anyway, especially from big places, so mine is pretty short: Hobby Lobby. (We don't have Chick-Fil-A around here.)

If you make up quotes, you will soon have the same credibility as MSNBC, CNN, and my personal favorite, Don Lemon.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. If you want to know how it works, check out Antifa's #PunchANazi campaign that now has even left-wing stalwarts like Salon and the mayor of Berkeley condemning them. But thank you for your concern.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2017 9:53 AM  

CynicalMan wrote:Two more words; Holiday World.

What does a family owned amusement park in Santa Claus, Indiana have to do with this?

Blogger VD August 30, 2017 9:53 AM  

I know Vox already said that he gets to take quotes out of context in his post. Sure. But the quote about not wanting Trump supporters at Camping World was totally made up. If you make up quotes, you will soon have the same credibility as MSNBC, CNN, and my personal favorite, Don Lemon.

I was first informed that I have zero credibility in 2001. I don't give a quantum of an airborne rodent's posterior for credibility.

Alles klar?

Anonymous Rob August 30, 2017 9:55 AM  

Trump can target these companies if he wants and make them completely fold on the liberal BS. These are the same people that build women-free Starbucks in Saudi Arabia. All you have to do is draw a cultural line.

Blogger Lobo Util August 30, 2017 9:57 AM  

Si, te entiendo VD.

Blogger James Dixon August 30, 2017 10:01 AM  

> ...no. Eastern Mountain Sports.

Ah. I'm sorry to hear that. We've shopped at them too. They were good.

> American Eagle made no pretense of being solely about fashion

Way back in the 1980's I think, when we first shopped there, they actually were the real thing.

> For any honest non-autiste he clearly said what he said.

Yep. Otherwise their PR department would be yelling and screaming that he was taken out of context. They're not.

> ...and ignoring the rest of the context where he repeats over and over that a CEO should not make comments about politics.

And yet, he did. So I'm sure he'll be resigning as CEO any time now, right? Right after he quits and sue's NBC for misrepresenting his statements. Any time now...

Blogger Elocutioner August 30, 2017 10:01 AM  

Yes, random newb, your "nuh uh!" has me convinced.

Lobo Util wrote:...ignoring the rest of the context where he repeats over and over that a CEO should not make comments about politics.

So we should ignore what he said because he said he shouldn't have said it but didn't actually change what he said beyond a mealy-mouthed non-apology doubling down. Okay. I suppose we should just ignore the apology as well since it came more than one minute after the original statement and thus was unrelated.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise August 30, 2017 10:03 AM  

Lemonis: I apologize to the people who have followed my show for years and have said they have learned so much and are inspired.

Hey! Ain't I grand?

Lemonis: You are the reason I made this mistake. You took my common sense away and purpose.

I'm "apologizing," but it's really not my fault.

Blogger James Dixon August 30, 2017 10:04 AM  

By contrast, see the following: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/09/barilla-pasta-chairman/

How much you want to bet their sales will actually increase?

Anonymous Brick Hardslab August 30, 2017 10:11 AM  

Why hasn't he threatened to take his company to Lebanon? With all the hate and bigotry doesn't he want to go back?

Bizarro World America is such a fascistic dictatorship with armed goons marching and beating people they hate he really should get out while he can.

Blogger Quilp August 30, 2017 10:22 AM  

So very tired of the term "hate" being used to describe speech someone doesn't like in order to justify their own (often impetuous) actions based on their emotional reaction to that speech, instead of just accepting that not everyone has the same emotional needs they do. I know its a bit late in the SJW converged world to make such a statement - still, I just can't seem to move past that simple fact.

Anonymous Rob August 30, 2017 10:24 AM  

Look at how these same woke CEOs fall in line with cultural values to do business in places like Saudi Arabia. Why can't we draw that line here?

Blogger tz August 30, 2017 10:30 AM  

CNBC wrote a FakeNews headline? Huwuddathunk?

He could have fixed it by saying he was condemning violence on all sides and Trump supporters were welcome.

Even Pelosi condemned antifa.

Anonymous Rocklea August 30, 2017 10:34 AM  

"Even Pelosi condemned antifa."
I'm sure that was accidental, she still wants to impeach Bush.

Anonymous fop August 30, 2017 10:35 AM  

There will be a time for forgiveness.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 30, 2017 10:39 AM  

One clue to a non-apology: lots and lots and lots of words.
Too long; didn't read. Because fake apology from fake American.

Blogger Nick S August 30, 2017 10:40 AM  

This is never going to stop as long as they fail to grasp that they're projecting their own ego's vulnerabilities onto Trump's ego. Sure he has a big ego, but it doesn't react to either positive or negative stimuli the same way as theirs does. That makes him less predictable and that drives them insane.

Trump didn't "equate" the two groups. He merely pointed out that neither was blameless.

Blogger DeploraBard August 30, 2017 10:41 AM  

Was in American eagle yesterday as a matter of fact. White employees and white shoppers. Negro dribbling a basketball and a female muslim in a head scarf dancing happily down the street playing on the tv loop. I asked the manager who her customer base was. She looked at me like I had a penis growing out of my forehead. "What do you mean?" She asked. I pointed out the tv loop and told her it was offensive. She replied that all Americans were her customers. I told her they are fake Americans and need to go back. My wife put her hand on my arm and asked me to stop making a scene because we were only returning jeans my son had ordered online. The manager was literally shocked. FAKE American Eagle. That should be the name.

Blogger tuberman August 30, 2017 10:50 AM  

#ParasiteCEOs

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 30, 2017 10:53 AM  

See, bard, that's the thing.

White Americans and their preferred fashions are just fodder for Globohomo. Happy to take the dollars. If their customers were ever to be more than 10% diversity, crumpling ensues.

Anonymous fop August 30, 2017 10:59 AM  

But the quote about not wanting Trump supporters at Camping World was totally made up. If you make up quotes, you will soon have the same credibility as MSNBC

Nobody cares anymore.

Jesus. Wait 5 or 6 years when photorealistic facial animation and voice synthesis become widely available. You're gonna wish we were back in the good old days when people were merely misquoted.

In a few years there will not only be some quote flying around twitter, but a viral youtube video of Marcus Limonis proudly stating on camera how much he despises all white people.

And still nobody will care. At least not until this is settled.

Anonymous BBGKB August 30, 2017 10:59 AM  

When I came to this country as an infant I had no idea what would be in store for me.

But he was glad it turned out to be affirmative action.

I am much more insecure than people know. I get depressed, sad, scared etc.

Qualities everyone looks for in a CEO no doubt

1) Metrosexuals and Fake Americans don't go camping, while white families from small towns totally do; and

He is obviously doubling down on the lesbian camping crowd. They are such fair weather campers a tent can last multiple lifetimes.

They count - but they shouldn't count.

They count double when bussed across state lines during an election

Speaking of bussing what are the Odds that the majority of shitlibs would walk the 110 mile march instead of taking the busses carrying their luggage from one photo op to the next

TRUMP & KKK get fat women & niglets to march for 10 days
Believe it when you see it

Offers free food housing luggage transport & security

http://www.cville2dc.us/the-march.html

Blogger Lobo Util August 30, 2017 11:07 AM  

89. Elocutioner . I understand. I hear you. You don't have to keep repeating that the train is okay.

Anonymous BBGKB August 30, 2017 11:26 AM  

http://www.campingworld.com/stores

Looks like the 2 biggest RV shows in the nation are in PA where I believe we have some Ilk, & in Florida where we have at least one, that could show up with a sign or custom T shirt to advertise the CEO's saying
http://www.visithersheyharrisburg.org/event/detail/americas-largest-rv-show/4889/ Sep 13, 2017 – Sep 17, 2017

http://www.frvta.org/show/florida-rv-supershow/ January 16-21 2018

You can print off black/white posters at staples for under $7

Blogger Feather Blade August 30, 2017 11:26 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:Even then it was likely setting an RV up at a camp ground somewhere on the side of the road next to 50 other RVs.

Camping World, despite the name, mostly sells RV accessories and parts (from what I saw in the one I've been to).

So yes, this is highly likely. Camping World's target market is people in RVs.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2017 11:33 AM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:Come on Vox, finish the sentence over his picture. Play fair. I know, you don't care! But it makes you look bad.
We are VFM
We don't fight fair
We don't quit
We don't care

Blogger Sheila4g August 30, 2017 11:37 AM  

Never heard of Camping World; I thought I heard Cabelas bought Gander Mountain. Doesn't matter either way - even with the various 10-20% off "deals" from Cabelas, my son gets things online for far less. And while he's a bit too much of a purist for me (I don't need the top quality hiking boot available), he's had to live out in the field using his army gear and if he says a particular item is poorly made or not useful, I'm inclined to take his word for it. Buys a fair amount at Midway, although he recently got us all large hydration packs (the inner bladder and hose; still need covers) from Australia.

Re the Lebanese thing - in many ways they're like Jews and Chinese - a long history as a market-dominant minority and small business owners who are easily transplanted. Or, as Sailer's pitch-perfect commenter Jack D (sarc for those who don't read there or know my commenting style) recently proclaimed, it's not that Jews are rootless, they just easily re-root themselves wherever they are transplanted. In that case, it should prove no hardship at all for Lemonis et. al. to go back.

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 30, 2017 11:40 AM  

Direct your daily spending from Wall Street to Main Street businesses.

While I generally agree with going to Main Street, keep in mind that many of your local Chamber of Commerce Clown-farts are no different than this bozo.

Blogger Sam Lively August 30, 2017 11:41 AM  

I saw this guy at the Global Leadership Summit (basically a Christian-lite technocracy conference for center-left elites and Malcolm Gladwell types to share a stage with megachurch pastors). He spent a lot of time talking about his childhood traumas (molested by a family friend) and how he tries to lead from a place of total vulnerability. I'm guessing he has some good business instincts, but he came across like a slow-motion trainwreck.

Anonymous fop August 30, 2017 11:45 AM  

Egad...that letter.

Smug and sniveling at the same time is a truly repulsive combination.



Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2017 12:10 PM  

Sheila4g wrote:Never heard of Camping World; I thought I heard Cabelas bought Gander Mountain.

Cabelas and Bass Pro are in the middle of a merger.

Anonymous BBGKB August 30, 2017 12:12 PM  

Sorry about posting the march to DC I thought the busses carrying the luggage would take people from photo op to photo op
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/29/it-only-took-a-day-for-the-march-to-dc-to-lose-nearly-all-of-the-marchers/

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 30, 2017 12:27 PM  

All that's missing is the violins ...

Anonymous GregMan August 30, 2017 12:29 PM  

Fine, a--hole, I won't shop at your crappy stores any more. In return you can GTFO of MY country.

Blogger DonReynolds August 30, 2017 12:42 PM  

Dear Marcus...As many of your customers and former customers already know and understand perfectly, when you live by the sword, you will surely die by the sword.

Apology not accepted and in the same spirit, your surrender will not be accepted either. There will be no prisoners taken or accepted. We have no use for battlefield turncoats who quit the battle or switch sides when their side begins to lose. It does not work like that. You placed your bet and there is no refund.

Just keep saying "Nice Doggie" and see if your pit bull customers will stop chewing your ass. Yes, people make mistakes. What you have never done before is pay for your own mistakes.
Now you will.

Anonymous Avalanche August 30, 2017 12:45 PM  

@76 he repeats over and over that a CEO should not make comments about politics.

And THEN, he keeps making comments about politics... Dja miss that part? Is it even possible to make comments about the God Emperor and how he's running the country and have it NOT be "about politics"?

Anonymous Avalanche August 30, 2017 12:49 PM  

@84 Two more words; Holiday World.
What does a family owned amusement park in Santa Claus, Indiana have to do with this?


Holiday World is the retail chain OWNED BY Holiday Rambler, the big (Indiana) motor-home MFG.

Bit o' trivia: back in the mid-80s when I worked at a Holiday World as a service writer, Harley-Davidson bought Holiday Rambler -- and the joke going around the bays was: "we're now Harleyday-Ramblerson."

Anonymous Avalanche August 30, 2017 12:54 PM  

@107 Camping World's target market is people in RVs.

Who are essentially ALL White.

Blogger DonReynolds August 30, 2017 1:03 PM  

@75 Chester wrote:white Christians the real terrorists in America. Not Muslims. Not BLM. It's you and your parasitic kids.

I see you are lost.
The Huffington Post is down the hall on the Far Left.
I will call ahead and tell them you are coming.

Blogger DonReynolds August 30, 2017 1:25 PM  

Everybody in the world knows that the USA is a "Free Country", but those words have an entirely different meaning to Americans than it does to everyone else.

Americans believe this is a Free Country because we can ALL be E Pluribus and still come together as Unum.

The rest of the world does not get this message. Somehow it is lost in translation. To foreign citizens, a Free Country is FREE for the TAKING, and that is exactly why they come here....not to be part of a Free Country, but to TAKE it.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM August 30, 2017 1:37 PM  

@108 That sounds a lot like antifa to me.

Anonymous Jack Amok August 30, 2017 1:49 PM  

In a few years there will not only be some quote flying around twitter, but a viral youtube video of Marcus Limonis proudly stating on camera how much he despises all white people.

We had an... interesting... incident over the weekend. I live in a small town, under 10k, in rural western WA. We have a big chain supermarket and a small, local (and locally owned) grocery store that's been in town for decades.

This weekend, on a Facebook group that's a discussion board for the town, somebody who was very recently added to the group, and who lives in Arizona, made a post claiming he saw a yelp review that said the local grocery store was selling "White Nationalist" magazines. Another recently added person, again from out of town, chimed in calling for a boycott of the store "if it's true." Then a third newly added person, account private so details unknown, said "My aunt used to work there and said they used to carry it but stopped because someone complained."

Clearly some sort of orchestrated attack, but what was the purpose? A hit on the store? On the magazine? Recon to see what sort of response it would get?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2017 1:52 PM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:@108 That sounds a lot like antifa to me.
Fuck you. You sound like a child molester to me.

What part of
We
Don't
Care

are you not able to understand?

BTW; you need to drop the VFM. You are obviously not VFM, and you could get hurt playing as one.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2017 1:54 PM  

Jack Amok wrote:Clearly some sort of orchestrated attack, but what was the purpose? A hit on the store? On the magazine? Recon to see what sort of response it would get?
Just SJWs looking for a new victim to destroy.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 30, 2017 1:56 PM  

Clearly some sort of orchestrated attack, but what was the purpose?

Hard to say, isn't it. Leftists are feeling their oats right now, and in their echo chambers they're hearing that you can BTFO anyone by associating him with white supremacists et al. It'll be no surprise if they use it to settle all sorts of personal grudges. Maybe the store owner's ex-wife isn't happy with her alimony. Who knows.

Anonymous AB.Prosper August 30, 2017 2:00 PM  

Lebanon? He needs to go back.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 30, 2017 2:03 PM  

Avalanche wrote:Holiday World is the retail chain OWNED BY Holiday Rambler, the big (Indiana) motor-home MFG.

Nope.

"Koch Development Corporation owns and operates Holiday World and Splashin' Safari amusement park. The amusement park's facilities joy rides, water sports, live shows, and a picnic grove. Koch Development was founded in 1945 and is headquartered in Santa Claus, Indiana."
https://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=6711076

"It was also during this time period that Holiday World saw a change in leadership. Will Koch, the eldest of Bill Koch's children, took over as President of the park. Another of Bill Koch's children, Daniel "Dan" Koch, became chairman of the board.[4]"

"The park suffered a sudden loss in June 2010 when President and CEO Will Koch died while swimming at his home. Although the Spencer County coroner listed the official cause of death as drowning, family and park officials believe Koch's type 1 diabetes played a factor in his death. Soon after his death, Holiday World & Splashin' Safari named Will's younger brother Dan as the park's new President.[14] Dan Koch served as the park's President until late 2012, shortly after which the board of directors announced Matt Eckert as the new President and CEO. Matt Eckert was previously one of the parks two general managers. Unlike past Presidents and CEOs, Matt Eckert has no relation to the Koch Family; Will Koch's widow and children continue to own the park. Dan Koch, along with his sister Natalie, would later go on to buy Alabama Splash Adventure, a previously troubled theme park in Bessemer, Alabama.[15]"

https://infogalactic.com/info/Holiday_World_%26_Splashin%27_Safari

Anonymous Gen. Kong August 30, 2017 2:04 PM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:@108

That sounds a lot like antifa to me.


In case you've been napping, the Antifa has declared open war. Wars are not fought according to Marquess of Queensberry rules. As for completing the sentence, the terms "hate, violence, bigotry or racism" are code-words which refer only to whites. They never at any time refer to blacks (easily the most violent race on earth), or to the left in general - who routinely practice hate, violence, bigotry and racism against whites in general and straight white males in particular, and have been doing so for decades with impunity. The fake American CEO's statement is every bit as fake as he himself is - pure virtue-signaling. Why would we expect anything more in the Fake Banana Empire?

Anonymous BBGKB August 30, 2017 2:17 PM  

You are obviously not VFM, and you could get hurt playing as one

The left has a group that goes by VFM also Vagrant Fellating Miscreants

Blogger DJ | AMDG August 30, 2017 2:22 PM  

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Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 30, 2017 2:50 PM  

There goes any hope of salvaging the Gander brand.

And Cabelas and Bass Pro aren't exactly merging; Bass Pro is acquiring the Cabelas retail stores. In the past, Bass Pro has refused to sell AR-15s, claiming they weren't appropriately sporting for its liking. So the future of Cabelas is serious doubt. Their merchandise has gotten outlandishly expensive anyway, so this is all probably just more good news for Amazon.

Blogger Lovekraft August 30, 2017 2:52 PM  

The longer the apology, the more evidence the writer is looking to get out of some culpability, rather than trying to move on.

Blogger Quadko August 30, 2017 3:12 PM  

A CEO has time to host a TV show? I can see the "company visibility" marketing argument, but doesn't he have more important things he could be doing for the company? What kind of company are they running over there?

Blogger tublecane August 30, 2017 3:24 PM  

"Trump appeared to equate torch-bearing white nationalists with the protesters who demonstrated against them"

What's wrong with that? Oh, "white nationalism" is an automatic disqualifier, I forgot. You should've said "white supremacists," in which case I'd immediately know what to think.

As long as improving your prose, raather than "protesters who demonstrated against them," it'd be more accurate to say, "thugs who with the help of lawless cops attempted to bash their brains in and set them afire."

By the way, notice how they start off with "torch-bearing," which confirms my suspicion that the torchlight parade was the effective part of the rallies. They want us to associate torches with wrongthink because they know that the night before the ruckus was at least a relative PR win for the evil Nazi/KKK racists.

Anonymous Didas Kalos August 30, 2017 3:28 PM  

#BoycottCampingWorld and #nascar and #nascarchase go well together.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 30, 2017 3:48 PM  

https://www.marcuslemonis.com/pages/general-comments-feedback

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM August 30, 2017 5:11 PM  

@125 The thong you wear seems to be 2 sizes too small. Or could it be just the words I typed on the screen that have your panties in a wad. You can type WE Don't Care, but you let little ole me upset you so. Gammas need an Alpha to follow, so find one. And learn from @130 on how a presentation of ideas is suppose to work.

Anonymous Daniel August 30, 2017 5:27 PM  

>>I DO NOT apologize to anyone who is in favor or hate, violence, bigotry or racism.

To varying degrees, I'm in favor of all these sentiments, so bye-bye Camping World. REI is good enough for me.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2017 5:36 PM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:And learn from @130 on how a presentation of ideas is suppose to work.
The problem with this advice is that you're not presenting ideas. You've experienced actual ideas so rarely you don't even know what one looks like. All you've presented is your feelings.

There is no such thing as fair.

Outside a culturally homogeneous high-trust society, fair is a purely theoretical concept, like some sub-sub-sub-sub-atomic particle, for which there is no evidence whatsoever, but it makes your obviously failing preconceptions seem to work, so have to believe it exists.

The people who are trying to remove and replace you, who would kill if they could and will starve you and your children if they can, don't fight "fair". That's precisely what you mean by "that sounds like antifa".

Guess what princess? Your choice is not to fight fairly and win. It's to start fighting unfair or surrender. We all know, you yourself know, you'd rather surrender and grouse about how unfair the bad guys are. I'd rather watch the bastards die in pain. Since that's not on the table, being mean and quoting them out of context don't seem like any big deal.

Ain't no rules in a knife fight.

Blogger Bruce Wayne August 30, 2017 8:34 PM  

But he's very high energy, I'm sure.

Blogger Bruce Wayne August 30, 2017 8:36 PM  

Yep. Bass Pro all the way.

Blogger Bruce Wayne August 30, 2017 9:20 PM  

Someone needs to explain to me why it's so "evil" to want to associate with your own kind. People find comfort in like languages, culture and yes race. I don't see the problem with that.

Blogger Bruce Wayne August 30, 2017 9:22 PM  

NASCAR's glory days ended when Richard Petty retired in my opinion. It's sad. I have some fond memories watching it.

Blogger Bruce Wayne August 30, 2017 9:24 PM  

REI is way better.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM August 30, 2017 9:39 PM  

@141 Great progress, this response is much better than your other one (@125). "Fuck you. You sound like a child molester to me." What are you so angry about? Answer me this, is there a parent, teacher, spouse, or friend that has ever responded positively to that phrase? I'll bet not, so why use it here? Don't want to use dialectic OK, then use rhetoric. Vox says rhetoric always caries the day!

"Outside a culturally homogeneous high-trust society"...great! This is what Trump is trying to restore. Trump & I are old enough to have lived in that society. You restore that, with what Michael Savage titled one of his books; Borders, Language, and Culture. I would add, the rule of law. We still have a democracy and lasting change must come through the democratic process. You will not win lasting change with knives, guns, dishonest posts or tweets, but with ideas and a must improved process (from us all) of explaining WHY those ideas are better.

You can join Wile E. Coyote if you want, but all you will do is spin your wheels in the hot desert.

Anonymous reactionaryguy August 30, 2017 9:51 PM  

Modern liberals are authoritarians and globlism is helping them achieve this.

They have to be stopped at all costs before they consume the planet.

Crying hate, bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia, islamophobia, etc, etc.
and destroying lives is what they do best (bombing nations, abortions, kicking people from their jobs).

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( You are Welcome ... to go back to the hell hole you came from ) August 30, 2017 10:58 PM  

147. Steve Brown VFM August 30, 2017 9:39 PM
Don't want to use dialectic OK, then use rhetoric.



you're the fag Dennis Hastert fellator who tried to characterize us as being like Antifa.

you know what the 2nd rule of SJWs is?

because presenting Rhetoric and pretending it's Dialectic ain't gonna fly here.

bye the bye, ol Steve, ol buddy, ol pal ... what's your VFM number?

you DO realize that those are ASSIGNED, yes? and that we have a LIST?

you don't get to just show up after 8 years of giving Obama no-lube specials and pretend you're on our side.

give our love to Bawney while you're at it.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 30, 2017 11:27 PM  

Steve Brown VFM wrote:You will not win lasting change with knives, guns, dishonest posts or tweets, but with ideas and a must improved process (from us all) of explaining WHY those ideas are better.
That is undoubtedly the most naive statement I've heard in a month. And I have minor children.
Nothing BUT guns, knives and pain ever changes anything.
People are NEVER convinced by argumentation. The best you can hope for is that they've already abandoned their precious belief and are ready to enlist. Even then, they will come to your side for emotional reasons and then rationalize it with your pathetic style of pseudo-dialectic.

Arguments don't change minds. Changing circumstance, unbearable cognitive dissonance, and emotional pain change minds.

Steve Brown VFM wrote:Answer me this, is there a parent, teacher, spouse, or friend that has ever responded positively to that phrase?
What on the face of the Earth would lead you to believe I care if you respond positively? Do you think that somehow I care what passes for thought in the microcephalic wonderland of your skull?
Tell me this, has any Leftie ever, once, in your entire life, honestly listened to and accepted your precious dialectic?
What makes you think you will ever convince anyone with that technique? Are you just immune to feedback?

So take your "fairness", your pathetic attempts at reason, your noble loser death wish and blow it out your stupid child molester a**. You have no idea what you're doing, you have no idea what's at stake, you have no idea how to get where we need to go to survive, but by God, you're going to tell other people how to conduct the fight!

Anonymous franklinjennings August 31, 2017 7:35 AM  

Wow. The real reason the board should fire him is that he made himself sound like an emotional mess in this non-apology. It's incredibly womanly to try to weasel out of his mistake by appealing to childhood bullying or getting "depressesed, sad, and scared." He alienated half the country (and 80% of campers) with his original comments. But this follow-up is worse because it reveals to employees and the board that there is no one in charge. This unstable, mincing, virtue-signalling man-child is clearly no leader and has lost his ability to inspire confidence.

Blogger michaeloh59 August 31, 2017 9:13 AM  

#106
Sorry to be late to this party, been a little busy with the hurricane. If you really want to woke whitey campers you post Lemonis' anti-cracker hate rant on the RV and related forums. Full of gringos. Like rv.net (Lemonis' own Good Sam Club forum), irv2.com. In addition many of the manufacturers, of which there are dozens, also maintain significant forums, i.e. Heartland.com. This would be THE most time effective way of outing Lemonis and a project almost unworthy of the meme warriors around here in its simplicity. Almost. A widespread effort would open up a big ole can of redneck camper whoopass on LeDumbass.

Blogger VoodooJock August 31, 2017 9:47 AM  

He is obviously gambling on hipsters and creative types to buy mobile homes.

Blogger SirHamster September 01, 2017 3:26 PM  

((( bob kek mando ))) - ( You are Welcome ... to go back to the hell hole you came from ) wrote:bye the bye, ol Steve, ol buddy, ol pal ... what's your VFM number?

Fake VFM have to go back. In pieces.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM September 01, 2017 7:57 PM  

Vox, please get Spacebunny to verify that I'm a VFM so Snidely, bob kek mando, and Sir Hamster can go shimmy up some other tree.

I also think if quite ironic that one day after I called out Snidely on his bad attitude, you wrote a post on it. I wish him the best and hope he finds employment soon.

Blogger SirHamster September 01, 2017 9:04 PM  

Why are you appealing to authority when the challenge is to answer with a multiple digit number?

Minions don't cry. Minions should also know better than to second guess tactics that have already been explained.

Anonymous Steve Brown VFM September 02, 2017 2:10 AM  

@156 The authority is Christ. The challenge is to live a Christ-like life. I think it was 273 or 373, but not sure. It's not like I use that # everyday.

Your intimidation is so effective, I probably won't sleep for a week.

Blogger Roger G2 September 02, 2017 12:50 PM  

*They will complain, of course, that we are taking their words out of context. That's really too bad. But the principle of fair play dictates that both sides are allowed to play by the same rules*

This is precisely the message I attempt to convey all the time. Thank you for putting it in the words I've needed, which is probably meme-worthy in itself. Fwiw.

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