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Friday, August 11, 2017

Mailvox: IT in a converged company

It will be poisonous if the tech right feels compelled to not only hide their beliefs but also to actively pretend to believe in progressive diversity values. This pretending will embitter them, probably pushing many to the more radical alt-right

This is EXACTLY what happened to me!

One HR director in particular was hard-core SJW and good friends with one of my managers so I was stuck.  One of the things she did that still sticks in my mind was an online training/brainwashing course where 1) we HAD to pass it in order to remain employed and we were told that this was because it was the company's responsibility to demonstrate nondiscrimination in order to meet federal requirements - which was, first of all, bullcrap, and second, a way to shift the responsibility for the nonsense onto the employees. 2) it contained questions such as "Check the boxes next to groups which are discriminated against" and "white men" was an incorrect answer.  You could select it, and it would just make you redo the question over and over until you gave the "right" answer.

I wasn't familiar at the time with Vaclav Havel's "Power of the Powerless" but he totally nailed what was going on: the point wasn't to make us believe something we didn't agree with, the point was to make us complicit.

My reaction - which SHOULD have been to quit and find another job, but I wasn't wise enough yet - was to manipulate my own responsibilities and the work that needed doing such that I could get everything done for the week in a couple hours, then spend the rest of the time goofing off and surfing the net.  Not a good use of time on my part; a worse use of employee resources by the people in charge.  My morale basically went to zero for several years as a result of these sorts of policies, and the value they got out of me correlated.

I'm out of IT now.  I've gotten the impression this sort of problem is too widespread for me to want to put up with it.

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Blogger Desdichado August 11, 2017 8:39 AM  

It's not just the tech industry. It's the entire corporate culture for all of America, at least. Every industry. Every corporation. There are only a handful of exceptions.
Probably Europe as well.

Blogger Harambe August 11, 2017 8:45 AM  

Pretty much the same crap at every large(-ish) company. As soon as a company gets big enough to require fluff positions like HR and "office manager", which is always a woman the boss wants to stick his penis in, this starts happening. And because he wants to make teh seks to the HR chick(s), he's not gonna give a flying rodent's buttocks about your initial complaints.

In my experience, the only thing a group of disgruntled "geeks" can do is to all quit at the same time, forcing the boss to act. We actually got our ultrabitch (sexy AF though, if I'm honest) fired because it was patently obvious even from the outside that she was destroying morale. But if you wait too long, or you can't get a group of key employees to all leave at once, you're not going to get things to change. Then you should just quietly find a job at a smaller company where everyone's job is directly related to getting your products out the door.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J August 11, 2017 8:47 AM  

This was par for the course at every teacher orientation or semiannual struggle session...uh, professional development course I attended. Public schools, mostly, but one private charter for which I worked did this too, likely because it was an urban school serving blacks and hispanics but was staffed by a majority of white teachers.

I had a part time job at a grocery store one summer. It the diversity rocks anti-discrimination quiz there, too. You know. To make sure us lowly cashiers weren't refusing to ring up blacks or Indians (call center).

Having children has been one of the best things I've ever done, huge bonus points that it got me out of the workforce and I don't have to suffer this nonsense anymore.

Blogger Buybuydandavis August 11, 2017 8:49 AM  

VD: the point wasn't to make us believe something we didn't agree with, the point was to make us complicit.

The point was to humiliate. To make you bend. To make you submit.

The more absurd the proposition, the more obvious your debasement is to you.

It's not about agreement. If you agreed, you wouldn't feel humiliated. It's about dominance and submission.

Anonymous NH August 11, 2017 8:55 AM  

VD

My question: long-term customers that turn out to be SJWs are likely to be the most difficult to deal with as a business, even when they haven't engaged in identity politics.

Should you weed them out beforehand and if so, how?

Blogger Fifty Seven August 11, 2017 8:59 AM  

@Harambe

The mass quit tactic works in the trades, too. Did it a few years ago at a company that was jerking a bunch of us around and making terrible decisions.

We didn't plan it, it just worked out that a couple of new opportunities came up and a bunch of us went for it. When six of your core men quit in the same week, three of those in a two hour span, they notice.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore August 11, 2017 8:59 AM  

@3 The infestation is much more thorough that what you've described. I have a friend who.....

Blogger Resident Moron™ August 11, 2017 9:02 AM  

Noted on Twitter recently:

Women get paid.

Whatever the context; work, dinner, sex, etc ... women get paid. They focus on getting paid, they demand payment, they scream unashamed blue murder if you don't pay.

Tech is getting worse in terms of SJW infiltration BECAUSE it is now so awash with money.

When I started in the early 80s manpower was dirt cheap, hardware was monstrously expensive, and there were NO WOMEN.

Now hardware is cheap, tech jobs are highly paid, entrists are swarming.

C'est la vie.

Blogger liberranter August 11, 2017 9:04 AM  

...an urban school serving blacks and hispanics but was staffed by a majority of white teachers.

The fact that they can't find any among their own kind who are either capable of or willing to teach them demonstrates more clearly than anything else the wasteful futility of trying to "teach" them in the first place.

Anonymous Steve August 11, 2017 9:08 AM  

Probably Europe as well.

Not that I've seen. There's plenty of wanky political correctness in big UK corporates, but most of it is either lip service, wariness of firing lazy women, or cost cutting disguised as green policy.

The sport of hunting down badthinkers and trying to get them sacked from their jobs doesn't really exist here, not in the private sector anyway. Maybe you could find a few extreme examples, but generally British employees want to:

* Do as little work as possible
* Get paid
* Go home early

I've never experienced, or even heard of, a British employer forcing their staff to do obnoxious diversity struggle sessions.

But from what I gather, American corporate culture has been intrusive and authoritarian since the 90's at least, what with drug tests and firing people for smoking in their own cars, spying on your social media activities, and general cult-like corporate nonsense.

Blogger Harambe August 11, 2017 9:09 AM  

Fifty Seven wrote:@Harambe

The mass quit tactic works in the trades, too. Did it a few years ago at a company that was jerking a bunch of us around and making terrible decisions.

We didn't plan it, it just worked out that a couple of new opportunities came up and a bunch of us went for it. When six of your core men quit in the same week, three of those in a two hour span, they notice.


Yeah, we didn't "plan" it either. We just sort of all complained about the same things to each other and one day a guy announced he's had enough and is going to quit. So myself and the only other remaining developer (aside from the lead dev who was a shareholder) also put our CV's out and gave our calendar month's notice.

I am just so thankful that I blindly stumbled into a career where there's currently a lot of work and you're basically expected to move every 5 years, so it's still possible to move without too much risk of being unemployed for an extended period.

Blogger seeingsights August 11, 2017 9:14 AM  

Assorted points:

Adam Smith once said, "'There is a great deal of ruin in a nation." Similarly, there is a great deal of ruin in a large corporation. SJW nonsense in a large corporation incurs costs, but a large company can still survive it.

Of the different types of business jobs, I've long thought that Human Resources are useless. The other types of jobs--sales, finance, economics, accounting, operations--can and do provide value.

One of the many great things about the internet is that customers and employees can discuss their experiences much more easily than ever before. Opponents of SJWs can look on the internet to see if a company is converged and thus avoid a converged company. Such actions by customers and employees lead to loss of value to the converged company.

Blogger Avalanche August 11, 2017 9:21 AM  

@4 "If you agreed, you wouldn't feel humiliated. It's about dominance and submission."

I suppose men have more trouble with this: but if you think of yourself as living behind enemy lines, as 'holding on' until {sigh} the WORLD changes so that the real world can be recreated; it might make it easier?

Who was it recently wrote that we on the Right have a DUTY to protect and maintain our civilization -- even in hiding -- until we can come out into the sun again?

Doesn't make it easy, might make it tolerable?

Anonymous Laz August 11, 2017 9:23 AM  

"The mass quit tactic works in the trades, too..." It sure does. Although you'll never work in that trade again if there are Mexicans around. I know, been pushed out of 3 trades in the last 25 years.

Blogger Avalanche August 11, 2017 9:27 AM  

@12 "Of the different types of business jobs, I've long thought that Human Resources are useless. The other types of jobs--sales, finance, economics, accounting, operations--can and do provide value."

UNLESS you're large enough to attract govt regulation attention. Then, even your lawyers aren't sufficient! They have enough to do just keeping up with the (govt-mandated, insane) laws; so you need some 'clerks' (ideally -- oh SO ideally! -- from the very hard Right!!) to 'game' the system and keep the company barely inside the lines. Otherwise, your managers, who should be supporting and herding the productive people, have to spend hours (metaphorically) flipping through a resume 'book' with 9,000 resumes and doing a hundred 'preliminary' interviews!

Double-edged problem: DON'T have the 'clerks' and you waste days of manager productive time; DO have the 'clerks' and you (or some manager should) have to oversee the HR dept repel SJW boarders.

Blogger Kentucky Headhunter August 11, 2017 9:31 AM  

OT: Anybody know what happened to the Ex-Army blog. It says its been removed, but I didn't see any notice from the author about quitting.

Blogger SouthRon August 11, 2017 9:35 AM  

The only way I can tolerate automates online training with built-in quizzes is to keep track of the race and sexes and which ones are the "good" and "bad" guys. I'll let you guess the outcomes.

This year I've noticed a change. More whites showing up and men not always being the villians. Maybe it's the Trump effect.

Our multi-billion per year company is self-insured and doesn't do drug testing and I just found out why. The one good gal in our HR department explained that if they didn't self-insure they would have to test and know they would have to terminate many of their best and highest performing employees. I laughed. That explained a few things.

Blogger VD August 11, 2017 9:36 AM  

Should you weed them out beforehand and if so, how?

Yes, if you can afford it. Just tell them you can't supply them anymore, don't have the time, whatever.

Anonymous Wooly August 11, 2017 9:37 AM  

OT

Much as I hate Google's converged company, their doodle today is fantastic. Two turntables, crossfader and more, and a box of vinyl.

Insanely fun, especially when you have a guitar in your lap and can rap. I wish it were a standalone app. I imagine with a touch-screen, like a tablet, it would be even more fun.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer August 11, 2017 9:40 AM  

Of the different types of business jobs, I've long thought that Human Resources are useless.

This all day long and everyday. I have always thought it was ridiculous that VP's of HR exist. Even more galling is that they feel confident enough to open their mouths in executive meetings and comment on things unrelated to personnel. These people are some of the dumbest and most indoctrinated people in any organization. They can be relied upon to buy a cake and blow up some balloons for someone's retirement but don't expect much more than that from them. As @15 stated there are some tasks that you need them for but it's mostly all clerk work. Anyone in charge of payroll/ benefits should report up through the finance org. Anyone in charge of recruiting/screening should report up through Operations and anyone in charge of employment laws should report up through legal. No one with a business degree in HR should hold a position above low level manager/supervisor.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis August 11, 2017 9:53 AM  

In almost every big American corporation, the head of HR is either a black male or a white female. HR as a group is almost exclusively white female.

OpenID dreadilkzee August 11, 2017 9:55 AM  

Laz wrote:"The mass quit tactic works in the trades, too..." It sure does. Although you'll never work in that trade again if there are Mexicans around. I know, been pushed out of 3 trades in the last 25 years.

This is another advantage the illegal paid under the table gets. He can not give a shit about HR. He can womanize all he wants and not care. In many cases the women cannot understand what he is saying and the Mexican's like their own idioms and can always claim the women doesn't understand his dialect.

Anonymous Rfvujm August 11, 2017 9:56 AM  

The only time I saw a man working in HR, he was black. Perhaps a diversity hire?

I think young alt-right men in HR could stand to be a useful force in the culture war, but there may be a challenge in getting hired in the first place.

Blogger SammyBoy August 11, 2017 10:15 AM  

"Much as I hate Google's converged company, their doodle today is fantastic. Two turntables, crossfader and more, and a box of vinyl."

Thanks for the info. Now I know were to lay the blame for so much of the last 30 years.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 11, 2017 10:15 AM  

It's not just the tech industry. It's the entire corporate culture for all of America, at least.

And beyond corporate. The first black Catholic priest ordained in the United States spent some time in a town near me and is buried here, and now he's up for possible canonization. Obviously the push to canonize a black man is intense. Locals would be excited about any possible saint from the area, but the fact that he was black add so much potential for virtue-signaling.

And who's pushing it the hardest, talking about it on social media the most? Why, middle-aged white women, of course. Because "he was a very holy man and it would be cool to have a saint from our town" is nice, but "he was a very holy man and it would be cool to have a saint from our town AND every time I talk about him I show how open-minded and hip I am, not like all those racists in this mostly white town" is priceless.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable August 11, 2017 10:16 AM  

My question: long-term customers that turn out to be SJWs are likely to be the most difficult to deal with as a business, even when they haven't engaged in identity politics.

Should you weed them out beforehand and if so, how?


My brother's company "fires" the worst 10% of their client base annually. He actually enjoys doing it. Imagine you've been bending over backwards for the last 52 weeks servicing an uncooperative, cheap, picky or downright crazy customer and now you get to tell them their business is no longer desired ... you can quickly see how that might get to be a lot of fun. He says the looks he gets are priceless ...

Anonymous NH August 11, 2017 10:16 AM  

VD

I more meant: do you screen incoming customers and how? Or it doesn't matter until they start spouting it?

Blogger VD August 11, 2017 10:19 AM  

I more meant: do you screen incoming customers and how? Or it doesn't matter until they start spouting it?

I have no idea. It's not really relevant to my experience.

Blogger James Dixon August 11, 2017 10:20 AM  

> I suppose men have more trouble with this: but if you think of yourself as living behind enemy lines, as 'holding on' until {sigh} the WORLD changes so that the real world can be recreated; it might make it easier?

I always simply viewed it as a game. I knew the rules and played them. That didn't mean I wouldn't occasionally deliberately give a "wrong" answer to a question or simply refuse to answer though, just to let them know I knew. My current position is largely diversity programming free, thank God.

Blogger tz August 11, 2017 10:26 AM  

Pantyhose puppets?

"They are great engineers and diversity hires, but not very social, and their wearing a google glass device all the time gives me the willies, but everyone seems happy"

Anonymous BBGKB August 11, 2017 10:28 AM  

that I could get everything done for the week in a couple hours, then spend the rest of the time goofing off and surfing the net.

Wouldn't aggressively going after personal/leftist internet usage at work be a better use of time? The watch porn at work people I have encountered are all leftists.

Blogger Harry Goldblatt MD August 11, 2017 10:48 AM  

NH wrote:VD

My question: long-term customers that turn out to be SJWs are likely to be the most difficult to deal with as a business, even when they haven't engaged in identity politics.

Should you weed them out beforehand and if so, how?


If the SJW customers are tying up most of your support budget, you have got to 'fire' them. If not just take their money and be a happy warrior.

Anonymous Scott August 11, 2017 10:56 AM  

@25

They are now lowering standards to become a saint? Crazy.

What are this candidates verified miracles?

Blogger Xellos August 11, 2017 10:57 AM  

Havel might not be the best person to quote on anything, considering he was basically the Czech Yeltsin - selling out his country after the fall of communism.

Blogger YIH August 11, 2017 10:59 AM  

Kentucky Headhunter wrote:OT: Anybody know what happened to the Ex-Army blog. It says its been removed, but I didn't see any notice from the author about quitting.
I think the main blogger (not Baloo) passed away, there was a RIP post up for about a month, now apparently Baloo deleted it.

Blogger Student in Blue August 11, 2017 11:01 AM  

@27. NH
I more meant: do you screen incoming customers and how? Or it doesn't matter until they start spouting it?

Opining from ignorance here, but doesn't this depend heavily on what kind of product you're selling? If you're selling staples and they want to buy 50 boxes of staples, then why not take their money. But if you're doing some sort of consulting or any other gig with a long period of extended contact, then you might not want to deal with SJWs as it'll save you a lot of headache.

Anonymous ~A August 11, 2017 11:01 AM  

Speaking of IT and Goolag...

Their Google Docs are down (for at least a portion of users), most likely a Javascript error. Deploying on Friday, yum.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 11, 2017 11:14 AM  

HR exists for the same reason legal departments exist (and in many corporations, the E-suite is mostly people with law degrees or CPA's.)

Our over-bureaucratized fat-dumb-unlimited-resources First World has millions of pages of regulatory hoops every firm, especially public corporations, must jump through.

It's a feature, not a bug, b/c it favors larger, top-heavy, lard-assed firms. It's a form of protectionism, same as industry-level political lobbying (who writes America's laws? The LOBBYISTS of the affected industry, b/c who else is the "expert?")

We live in the Age of Dinosaurs when it comes to industry & the Political Economy.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 11, 2017 11:24 AM  

They are now lowering standards to become a saint?

Very much. I won't go into details because it's too off-topic, but post-Vatican II they reduced the role of the devil's advocate, and now only require two miracles, which can be very thin as in John Paul II's case (or dispensed with as in John XXIII's case). Politics was often part of it in the past, but now that's all it is. Sorting out the modern "saints" will be part of the mess that has to be cleaned up someday after the impostors are thrown out.

Blogger RC August 11, 2017 11:28 AM  

I watched a great company die from this silliness in the early nineties. Digital Equipment, at the time the second largest computer manufacturer in the world and a great place for engineers, whose bones now reside inside HP, had an HR department that was out of control. One black lesbian woman was untouchable, didn't even have to show up for work. PC crap everywhere. Bloat ensued because any company has to have a certain percentage of people to actually do the work, profits dipped, then fell into huge losses, and then was sold for a dime on the dollar. It's instructive and might be helpful in predicting the future for Google and the like.

Blogger rycamor August 11, 2017 11:31 AM  

Student in Blue wrote:@27. NH

I more meant: do you screen incoming customers and how? Or it doesn't matter until they start spouting it?

Opining from ignorance here, but doesn't this depend heavily on what kind of product you're selling? If you're selling staples and they want to buy 50 boxes of staples, then why not take their money. But if you're doing some sort of consulting or any other gig with a long period of extended contact, then you might not want to deal with SJWs as it'll save you a lot of headache.



Agreed. Selling a straightforward product is one thing. But if you are a consultant or someone who does some sort of customized solutions, I guarantee the SJWs will be your biggest nightmare. Not necessarily just because they want browbeat you about PC correctness, but because their grasp on reality and consequences of choices is so tenuous that they tend to keep on escalating demands even after an agreement has been reached, because they live in Unicorn Cloud City where everything should just... happen.

Blogger RC August 11, 2017 11:33 AM  

Any entrepreneur will be better off firing their troublesome clients. I fired my largest at one point. It was nuts at the time but they were not salvageable and were taking up too much mindshare from the organization. Business is all about leverage and clients know when they're critical and leverage that to the hilt.

So...remove the leverage. Making certain that no more than x% of the business came from any single client helped stem that problem thereafter. I set x at 5% but lower is better.

Anonymous AMD August 11, 2017 11:47 AM  

They had the best processor architecture as well (Alpha). Makes you wonder if Intel will head the same way now that they are starting to become SJW converged.

Blogger RC August 11, 2017 12:08 PM  

Yes, 64 bits way ahead of its time. The clustering technology was solid too, also a huge technology advantage at the time. Letting Intel have a peek at the architecture was a big mistake and a small part of the downfall.

I loved the engineering side of the house, just rock-solid. They were good to me too, sent me back to grad school full-time and even sponsored the research. The technology was there but the overhead was sky high. I'll never forget a meeting with Emerson Electric execs watching a Digital exec explain why we were losing money with 70% gross margins. Classic.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 11, 2017 12:25 PM  

@KentuckyHeadhunter

You mean that guy who used to just copy some of God's posts so that he could pretend he was blogging?

Oh...."and quibcagged", whatever the hell that means.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 11, 2017 12:26 PM  

"Vox's posts"

Damn I hate this phone and the stupid auto correct.

Blogger Peter Jackson August 11, 2017 12:54 PM  

I have over 30 years experience as an engineer working in Fortune 50 companies, and currently work in silicon valley for a large corporation. Here are my thoughts:

1. I can tell you first hand that not all silicon valley companies are SJW converged. I'm certain they've all been under pressure from Obama's justice department concerning representation of certain protected minorities in their work forces. Hopefully Trump/Sessions will drop this nonsense.

2. Damore probably knew he could be fired for writing his white paper. I suspect he had legal advice before publishing it.

3. Google should have a right to hire and fire whomever they wish for any reason.

4. People have a right to not use Google's products and services for whatever reason.

5. Damore has a right to sue under applicable statutes. I suspect he has a huge payday in his future. Of course whatever he gets will be pocket change for Google.

6. Google's reputation has been damaged. I suspect they may have difficulty drawing the right kind of engineering talent in the future. (I concluded a long time ago that I'd never want to work there. Most of their "businesses" are side projects that lose money, and could be jettisoned at any time. Google has yet to prove they can make money at anything other than click-based advertising.)

7. I'm trying to divest myself of Google's products and services. I've never used Android or Gmail. It's going to be challenging to drop YouTube and Google Maps however, which are actually pretty good products.

Anonymous Bad Attitude August 11, 2017 12:54 PM  

The legal profession is very PC, but sometimes even that is not enough. For many large corporations (banks, tech companies), their legal departments will impose minority quotas on the law firms hired as outside council. Those firms must have certain percentages of minorities and women, and a certain percentage of the work these corporations send to those law firms must be performed by minority attorneys.

Oh, the corporate attorneys pushing this SJW crap are usually black females.

Anonymous kfg August 11, 2017 12:58 PM  

" . . . the point wasn't to make us believe something we didn't agree with, the point was to make us complicit."

Knows every mob boss ever.

Anonymous Donald Trump August 11, 2017 1:05 PM  

Although you'll never work in that trade again if there are Mexicans around. I know, been pushed out of 3 trades in the last 25 years.

It's absolutely disgusting how the flood of cheap labor has made building houses worse! That giant chicken placed near the White House was inspiring! We're going to Make Architecture Great Again!

Blogger Donald Nourse August 11, 2017 1:58 PM  

Great point. This is why large corporations like Democrats. Regulation, complexity and compliance are a barrier to entry.

Blogger Avalanche August 11, 2017 2:14 PM  

@33 "What are this candidates verified miracles?"

1. black apparently catholic managed to get ordained
2. black seemingly priest managed to get put into a white area
3. black seemingly priest managed to NOT get caught (or perhaps not even try to; but that WOULD be a miracle) embezzle or sleep with the younger parishioners (oh, unless he was gay?).

Anonymous Lawyer Guy August 11, 2017 2:25 PM  

Bad Attitude wrote:The legal profession is very PC, but sometimes even that is not enough. For many large corporations (banks, tech companies), their legal departments will impose minority quotas on the law firms hired as outside council. Those firms must have certain percentages of minorities and women, and a certain percentage of the work these corporations send to those law firms must be performed by minority attorneys.

Oh, the corporate attorneys pushing this SJW crap are usually black females.


Was local counsel for a large retailer. Exactly this.

We had a monthly quota sheet for women, blacks, Hispanics, gays (any type counted), and disabled vets. Lucky for me I am a 30% vet. Even so, one of the black lit guys looked my work over for a few hours every month to meet that billing quota.

We had to cut them loose when they started cramming us down on fees but wanting more work done. Lucky they were just under where we could get rid of them.

My favorite memory was when they made us all go down to the HQ city, complete company town, for a week of seminars and discussions. They wasted an entire day out of three with diversity BS, including an hour or so lecture by their diversity VP telling a story about the LA school district when he was in something like 3rd or 5th grade.

He even made himself cry. An entire banquet room full of lawyers all not looking at each other so we didn't start laughing.

Blogger Student in Blue August 11, 2017 2:32 PM  

@52. Avalanche
or sleep with the younger parishioners (oh, unless he was gay?).

That didn't stop some of 'em.

Anonymous BBGKB August 11, 2017 3:09 PM  

You mean that guy who used to just copy some of Vox's posts so that he could pretend he was blogging?Oh...."and quibcagged",

to be fair he also copied Steve Sailor

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 11, 2017 3:26 PM  

Well, we won't be able to complain that we weren't warned about was coming. Corporate America is a kinder, consensual version but all the same old impulses and tactics of Communist dictatorship are clearly there. Things get violent after Trump if he hasn't reformed the power structure sufficiently to put in place at least some elements of resistance.

Blogger tz August 11, 2017 3:37 PM  

At the daily wire, Ben Shapiro interviews Damore.

Fun fact, on soundcloud, his show is called "LiveBS_..."

Blogger Mister Excitement August 11, 2017 3:40 PM  

Corporate America being completely out of control and the Conservative reaction to it is yet another reason I left the sham of "Conservatism."

No matter what level of abuse, cynical indifference, corruption, greed, or promotion of Leftism that has come from corporate America the past 20+ years, the Conservative reaction has ALWAYS been Muh Free Market!

Conservatives are still operating under the delusion that businesses, and business leaders, are "Conservative" because....Free Market.

A Conservative will always always always say, "Well that company can hire, fire, or do whatever else it wants to."

or

"It's their money, they should do whatever they like with it. I can choose not to do business with them."

or whatever else kind of defeatist BS you can imagine. Every. Single. Time.

Well we're now at a point in which almost every single major employer in the country will now deprive a non-Leftist of employment, and even aggressively destroy, a non-Leftist.

And the damn Conservatives STILL don't want to fight back. And they never will. Conservatives are every bit as radical as the Leftists, just in a different way.

A Conservative is completely willing to watch their neighborhood, nation, country, and civilization burn to the ground, as long as they hold onto Muh Principles!

Blogger Doug Cranmer August 11, 2017 3:44 PM  

Submission ... there's some foreign word for that I can't quite recall at the moment.

Blogger Thucydides August 11, 2017 3:56 PM  

It's kind of sad, since principles are supposed to inform you actions, not prevent them.

Blogger Kristophr August 11, 2017 4:29 PM  

NH wrote:VD

I more meant: do you screen incoming customers and how? Or it doesn't matter until they start spouting it?


Since VD punted this one:

You often can't tell until they show their colors.

And yes, it doesn't matter. Service your better customers first. Let the SJWs sit on the back burner, or even tell them to fuck off if you are anti-fragile enough to do so.

Blogger The Morrigan August 11, 2017 4:41 PM  

Catholic middle-age women push for sainthood and do novenas. Witch middle age women buy crystals.

Yuuuge market for St. Patrick's Genuine Blarney Stone.

Blogger The Morrigan August 11, 2017 4:44 PM  

Great buying opportunities.

"Intel, now with Shitlord Inside™"

Anonymous ldlrl August 11, 2017 4:44 PM  

The last time one of those classes showed up at work I picked the least polite/most anal answer and 80% of the time was right.

Blogger Pseudotsuga August 11, 2017 6:20 PM  

Bellator Mortalis wrote:In almost every big American corporation, the head of HR is either a black male or a white female. HR as a group is almost exclusively white female.
It's the same group that keeps the gates in Higher Ed, too -- Lots of females, lots of convergence. It's not about competence hiring, but convergence quota hiring! Gotta be diverse, y'know, 'cause that makes edumacation better!
Much of Higher Ed Administration has the same convergence problem: for example, the female dean of one of the humanities departments in my area has an email signature that proudly proclaims her chosen pronouns-- at least they are the expected "she" and "her." Few others seem to feel the need to virtue signal with their email signatures.

Anonymous kfg August 11, 2017 6:37 PM  

@59: "Submission ... there's some foreign word for that I can't quite recall at the moment."

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Blogger VFM #7634 August 11, 2017 6:50 PM  

@2 Harambe

On the bright side, these HR barnacles and other similar PC crap might end up solving our problems with big corporations.

Too Big to Function. Heh.

Anonymous Richard August 11, 2017 9:26 PM  

A thought: Would people find it useful if there was a web site that rated companies on their level of convergence--as a resource for people considering working for them. If it got popular enough it might force said companies to take note of their reputation and its effect on their ability to recruit high performers

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants August 12, 2017 12:03 AM  

HR departments exists because they had to have somewhere to put all the women and colored people after the 1960s.
Before that, companies didn't have retarded HR departments. They got actual work done.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash August 12, 2017 1:14 AM  

OT, but this is too delicious not to share
https://twitter.com/TheSwogBlog/status/896206905386946560

Anonymous Lord T August 12, 2017 3:17 PM  

I work for a Tier 1 outsourcing company and they are pretty much the same. I was dragged through disciplinary for a few factual off work remarks on social media and was almost fired. I've not been considered for promotion, got a raise or a bonus for almost a year.

As you can imagine I'm not happy and doing the same thing in minimum work to keep the boxes ticked and my salary coming in till I find myself a job I like. My problem is that the job is cushy, pays well and only 10 minutes from home so finding a replacement role that suits is not that easy. My productivity in the meantime is way down and where it does count is that opportunities that are made available via my customer interactions that I would have passed on to our sales people now just get ignored by me. I'm costing them money and there is my replacement job satisfaction and motivation.

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