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Sunday, August 06, 2017

Too low to parent

Speaking of IQ, apparently an average 69 IQ is insufficiently intelligent to care for children in Oregon.
Controversy as Oregon couple are forced to give up their children to social services after they were deemed 'not intelligent enough' to care for the babies. Amy Fabbrini, 31, and Eric Ziegler, 38, had both of their children taken into foster care, the youngest right after he was born in the hospital. After taking a required IQ test, Ziegler scored a meager 66 and Fabbrini a 72. The IQ of the average person ranges anywhere from 90-110. Domestic abuse and neglect were not factors in the custody case, but didn't need to be, according to a report.
This indicates that 15.9 percent of all Black Americans, and 2.6 percent of all White Americans, are not intelligent enough to be permitted to raise children by Oregonian standards. I tend to doubt they were intending to establish that principle, but that's what the bell curve dictates.

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Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2017 11:56 AM  

I believe that in most areas, selective enforcement is grounds for a court to overturn a law or policy.

Blogger Orville August 06, 2017 11:56 AM  

What does that say about Africa? The Sangers of the world have gone down that "too stupid to breed" road before.

Blogger JACIII August 06, 2017 11:59 AM  

Orville wrote:What does that say about Africa? The Sangers of the world have gone down that "too stupid to breed" road before.


Which is why we have the Planned Parenthood monsters.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 12:00 PM  

The average Somali IQ is below 70, needs FIXING.

Anonymous JJ August 06, 2017 12:05 PM  

"3 generations of imbeciles is enough" - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Blogger DJ|Bonky August 06, 2017 12:09 PM  

Living here in Oregon and being close to child welfare issues, I can assure you of at least two things. 1) DHS did not solely take those kids away just because of the concerns of a few people and an IQ test. DHS will jump through the most ludicrous evaluations allowing the LEAST qualified people to keep their kids, far longer than ANYONE would ever consider reasonable. I promise you, the narrative is incomplete.

2) Given its long history of legislative bigotry and discrimination, Oregon has very few Blacks (or Catholics), and those that do choose to be here have moved here for opportunities. I suspect their IQs tend to skew higher.

Anonymous ZionShield August 06, 2017 12:22 PM  

You alt-retards are not even consistent. You say terrible things about supposedly "low IQ" black people, then rush to defend two pieces of trailer trash simply be cause they are white. And yet you accuse Jews of being "tribal"?

Blogger exfarmkid August 06, 2017 12:25 PM  

7. ZionShield.

Can't you put the least amount of effort into your trolling? You miserable lazy puke.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2017 12:26 PM  

@6 I would assume that those generalizations apply to child welfare agencies in every state unless I had some solid evidence to the contrary. There's definitely more to this story than we're hearing about. Perhaps a critical pizza shortage among the elites there.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2017 12:27 PM  

@7 We're pretty consistent about wanting black people to keep their own children regardless of their IQ.

Anonymous Just another commenter August 06, 2017 12:28 PM  

And ~half of all Somali immigrants, too.
@3 - Sanger was explicitly racist and into eugenics. When you point that out to pro-choice people, they tend to freak or deny. Saying "hey, I agree with you that we should keep it legal - we need fewer stupid people of all races breeding, and IQ-based abortions sounds like a great way to do that!" doesn't seem to comfort them much.

Blogger Zimri August 06, 2017 12:32 PM  

Oregon's Constitution, until very recently, banned blacks from lingering long in that state. (Idaho's had the same rule for Chinese.)

This looks like Oregon's way to the same end by different means.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 12:34 PM  

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Anonymous Jeff August 06, 2017 12:34 PM  

Parents are required to take an IQ test?

Nice.

Blogger Zimri August 06, 2017 12:34 PM  

"Sanger was explicitly racist and into eugenics."

I've read some Sanger. She wasn't /ourgirl/. She was a race-realist who was fine with blacks who could keep up. In practice this meant intellectuals like WEB DuBois.

Blogger rumpole5 August 06, 2017 12:35 PM  

@ Zionshield:

And yet you regularly read the blog? Better be careful. Facts and reality are persuasive to even the most blue pilled mind.

Blogger Zaklog the Great August 06, 2017 12:38 PM  

Considering the single motherhood rates, it would be more accurate to say that about 70% of black Americans are not intelligent enough to parent.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 12:39 PM  

10. Noah

"We're pretty consistent about wanting black people to keep their own children regardless of their IQ"

For me, it's not about Blacks in general, it IS about the 1400+ years of criminal activity of Muslims toward all other cultures. When this is all said and done, Somalis will be lucky to be allowed to go back to their homeland with their children.

No telling how harsh History will be with this so called religion, it depends on how far they take things. I figure they will go very far, way too quick, and then the whirl wind.

Blogger Zimri August 06, 2017 12:44 PM  

Zaklog: Considering the single motherhood rates, it would be more accurate to say that about 70% of black Americans are not intelligent enough to parent.

Here you're muddling INT with WIS. Admittedly they are correlated, and WIS is harder to measure directly.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 06, 2017 12:46 PM  

The fashies are going to love this because they want both eugenics and welfare but it's a short-term fix and will end badly.

Anonymous grayman August 06, 2017 12:47 PM  

Family services not political?! Lmao! In my state they recently remove children from a home for homeschooling and tried to justify it with all sorts of BS. Parents are often screwed unless they are very wealthy, otherwise thete is little chance of organizing the legal resources to fight it.

The precedent set here is hilarious for its implications in tge SJW world. That said, I'd guess there was some sort of conflict between the parents and the state that triggered it. I've seen that be the real case many times.

As pointed out above, this means any Somali' or black should require testing before impregnation based on their know intelligence curves.

OpenID b1bae96e-6447-11e3-b6bb-000f20980440 August 06, 2017 12:48 PM  

"DHS will jump through the most ludicrous evaluations allowing the LEAST qualified people to keep their kids"

Yes and no. I have heard so many awful child protective service stories, including several first hand accounts where I know parent and child, that I am surprised we don't hear about their agents being murdered on the regular.

Its clear that their objective isn't to help children. Its to snare as many people as possible in their net. Which means giving infinite chances to those likely to kill their kid rather than terminating their parental rights permanently, while extracting draconian conditions out of people that made honest mistakes or these days just not making parenting decisions that the CPS goon thinks is valid.

WB

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 06, 2017 12:49 PM  

tuberman wrote:The average Somali IQ is below 70, needs FIXING.

That's not even their biggest problem. When your environment selects for the sort of parents who would raise children in SOMALIA, you're going to have a race of mad hatters.

Anonymous grayman August 06, 2017 12:53 PM  

We really should be moving towards eugenics.

http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/07/iq-immigration-and-the-welfare-state-a-recipe-for-civilizational-suicide/

If things continue on their current course, in 20 to 50 years western whites will be mongrols. Besides that, random breeding of mixed populations doesn't produce better offspring over time, it tends towards lowest common denominator. Ask any professional dog breeder. It pretty simple, really.
In the case of the west thete is a relatively small window left to form and erhno-nationalists state and expelled the invaders before the damage is widespread and difficult to undue.

Anonymous TS August 06, 2017 12:57 PM  

CPS is pure evil and so are their statist minions ie..."liberals".

"It scarcely needs to be said that family has always been the first line of defense against the state, and the most important source of primary loyalty — or divided loyalty, from the perspective of politicians. Our connection with ancestors, and our concern for progeny, forms a story in which the state is not the main character. Family forms our earliest and hence most formative environment — and at least as an ideal, family provides both material and emotional support. Happy families actually exist.

But government wants us atomized, lonely, broke, vulnerable, dependent, and disconnected. So of course it attempts to break down families by taking kids away from them as early as possible, indoctrinating them in state schools, using welfare as a wedge, using the tax code as a wedge, discouraging marriage and large families, in fact discouraging any kind of intimacy that is not subject to public scrutiny, encouraging divorce, etc. etc."

https://mises.org/blog/new-libertarian

Anonymous Just another commenter August 06, 2017 12:57 PM  

@15 - yes, that is my understanding, too. The downside to generalizing for the sake of brevity. Many on the left to not get, or want to understand, the nuance of their opponents. (of course, when called on their contradictions they have endless nuance to propound)

Anonymous grayman August 06, 2017 12:57 PM  

@22 Aeoli

it's worse then that, the wonderful air programs to Africa have boosted the population well above the carrying capacity of the region and they have selected for dumbed down violent offspring
http://africaunauthorised.com/?p=1311

There is no fix except to stop aid ASAP and let nature take its course.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 12:59 PM  

22. Aeoli

"That's not even their biggest problem. When your environment selects for the sort of parents who would raise children in SOMALIA, you're going to have a race of mad hatters."

I understand that, the IQ problem is very much the tip of the iceberg with these slime, attitude is a much bigger problem. I was just imagining that Somali cop shooting across his partner to kill a totally innocent Aussie woman. Cop is close to deaf I hear.

There are low IQ people who are very loving, but Somali attitude with Somali stupid is too much. The whole Muslim thing is a major part of that attitude.

Blogger JACIII August 06, 2017 12:59 PM  

Just another commenter wrote:And ~half of all Somali immigrants, too.

@3 - Sanger was explicitly racist and into eugenics. When you point that out to pro-choice people, they tend to freak or deny. Saying "hey, I agree with you that we should keep it legal - we need fewer stupid people of all races breeding, and IQ-based abortions sounds like a great way to do that!" doesn't seem to comfort them much.


I get similar reactions depending on how much alcohol has been imbibed. There is a positive correlation for liberals of # of drinks to level of expressed race realism. And they tend to favor things that only appear to support helping minority populations but really knowingly damage them. They express it as a sort of inside game the democratic party is playing.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener August 06, 2017 1:03 PM  

@23 Ending welfare would be a major step in the right direction. That would let single mothers feel the consequences of choosing irresponsible and disloyal men as their fathers of their children, rather than forcing the rest of us to pay for their impulsive and stupid decisions.

Blogger justaguy August 06, 2017 1:04 PM  

note to comment 1: Selective enforcement is non-existent as a doctrine--- almost every locality, especially the feds use selective enforcement of the laws to target those they want cowed. Think Hillary and nay dem politician beyond those you do not do as they are told.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 1:14 PM  

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Blogger Dirtnapninja August 06, 2017 1:16 PM  

tuberman wrote:

There are low IQ people who are very loving, but Somali attitude with Somali stupid is too much. The whole Muslim thing is a major part of that attitude.


Most Somalis are literally one generation away from being goat herders and raiders. As a people they are incredibly aggressive, persistent with hair trigger temper. They were one of the few peoples to inspire true dread in the British. They had a formula for dealing with them in conflict: Shoot on sight, shoot first, shoot to kill, keep shooting.

The ironic thing is that they still have better social and educational outcomes than african americans.

Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 1:16 PM  

29. Noah

"Ending welfare would be a major step in the right direction. That would let single mothers feel the consequences of choosing irresponsible and disloyal men as their fathers of their children, rather than forcing the rest of us to pay for their impulsive and stupid decisions."

Not so Libertarian, and overly simplistic. Who would these rules be inforced on first, and how unfairly? The Globalist/Leftist Pedo elites still run most social agencies, and what opportunities would your Libertarian simplicity allow these satanists to exploit. A lot more than you think.

Blogger horsewithnonick August 06, 2017 1:16 PM  

It takes a very high DEX abd CON to deal with the consequences of an inadequate INT and WIS. CHA doesn't hurt, either.

Blogger haus frau August 06, 2017 1:24 PM  

Just another case of oregon traffiking children into foster care. There was another case a few months ago of oregon dhs demanding a 4 yr old girl living with her aunt and uncle in kentucky be turned over to foster care strangers in oregon supposedly because they wanted to unite her with an infant half brother she never met. Its about funding among other things

Anonymous FP August 06, 2017 1:24 PM  

@6

Who knows what the exact reason is for the idiots at DHS? They don't even know. This is an agency that wanted to send a 2 year old half American boy to his paternal grandmother in Mexico instead of the foster family who had had him since a few months old and wanted to adopt.

Don't forget the Canadian boy (in Oregon for the summer with his step-dad) who they took because some local yokel cops didn't like him not wearing a bike helmet or that the boy wasn't on his ADHD meds. Then they drugged him up more than he had been. The main excuse they gave was his mother was a legal pot grower in Alberta.

Blogger James Dixon August 06, 2017 1:45 PM  

> almost every locality, especially the feds use selective enforcement of the laws to target those they want cowed.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

> ...that I am surprised we don't hear about their agents being murdered on the regular.

When you do, things will change. Until you do, they won't. Remember that it took Waco to change US policies on armed standoffs.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 06, 2017 1:49 PM  

@24 TS

Exactly.

"...apparently an average 69 IQ is insufficiently intelligent to care for children in Oregon."
"This indicates that 15.9 percent of all Black Americans, and 2.6 percent of all White Americans, are not intelligent enough to be permitted to raise children by Oregonian standards."

Average IQ in Somalia is 68 (as several have mentioned already). Liberia 67, Gabon and Mozambique 64, etc. A remarkably "racist" policy for such a progressive state to adopt.

As several have mentioned already, there must be more to this story. Generally speaking, the progressive establishment narrative only acknowledges the validity of IQ as a measure in very restricted circumstances, such as when a black person is facing the death penalty, or when a leftist wants to portray himself as intelligent. Beyond that, anything IQ-related is typically considered to be a potentially dangerous hatefact, with implications that are particularly unfortunate for the Blank Slate and race-denialist tenets of the narrative.

Anonymous logprof August 06, 2017 1:49 PM  

"had both of their children taken into foster care, the youngest right after he was born in the hospital."

I'm sorry if someone else has already noted this but I can't let that crappy grammar go unnoticed.

WTF is wrong with journalists?

Oh, and I immediately noticed that the names sounded white. Would anyone dare do this to a feral black welfare queen?

Blogger Elizabeth August 06, 2017 1:52 PM  

He who pays the piper gets to call the tune. If their parents were supporting these two, they'd do a better job of keeping a tight leash on them to prevent them from breeding. They wouldn't want to be responsible for grandchildren.

I've been warning people for years: what the government subsidizes, the government controls. The male in this couple is on SSI and I assume the female is, too. One of the reasons for the popularity of the eugenics movement before WWII was to prevent the disabled from breeding on the taxpayer's dime and possibly passing down hereditary defects.

Interestingly enough, while retarded (below IQ 75) whites typically have Down's Syndrome or some other medical problem that causes retardation, the majority of IQ 70 blacks are normal otherwise. The average black African IQ is about 70-75.

A friend's sister married a man with a mental disability who went on disability after they wed. They had five children, one of whom inherited his disability. The daughter is on disability, too, and was knocked up three times by a black man. I assume that her three kids are collecting as dependents of a disability recipient. Three generations of imbeciles.

Blogger Chris Mallory August 06, 2017 2:38 PM  

Elizabeth wrote:The male in this couple is on SSI and I assume the female is, too. One of the reasons for the popularity of the eugenics movement before WWII was to prevent the disabled from breeding on the taxpayer's dime and possibly passing down hereditary defects.

Interestingly enough, while retarded (below IQ 75) whites typically have Down's Syndrome or some other medical problem that causes retardation, the majority of IQ 70 blacks are normal otherwise.


I worked with "Developmentally Disabled" (retarded) in a group home.
A large number of the whites were fetal drug abuse babies. The Federal definition for Dev Disabled is an IQ under 70 and it must have been diagnosed before the age of 18.
You would be surprised the number of them who were their own guardians. You would also be surprised at the number of them who are wards of the state because of criminal offenses. The "Downs" are fairly safe. And the very low IQ ones are fairly safe. The borderlines can be truly dangerous.

All of them screw like rabbits. Male, female, animal, vegetable, or mineral it did not matter. Even the "Downs" were this way. Let them get alone for five minutes and pants were on the ground and appendages were in orifices. All of them really should be sterilized at puberty. Corky and Corkrina having a baby might sound cute at first, it will be up to society to clean up the mess. Better to nip it in the bud.

Blogger Avalanche August 06, 2017 3:13 PM  

@18 "Somalis will be lucky to be allowed to go back to their homeland with their children."

Oh no no no! We do NOT want to keep somali offspring in our hi-tech, civilized country that requires at least a 100 IQ to succeed! NOT EVEN AS PETS! The can go home with their parents! (I would not object to sterilizing the lot of them before sending them back!)

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Blogger Avalanche August 06, 2017 3:22 PM  

@3 "Sanger was explicitly racist and into eugenics"

WHY does any intelligent person disagree with either of these?! How does our civilization allow two retarded (flat-out retarded: IQs below 65) people to marry and produce a (seemingly, potentially) "normal" IQ child -- and then LET THE RETARDS RAISE IT!?!? (This was some years ago, when 'we' were at least a little bit more interested in maintaining our nation...)

What POSSIBLE good can come from that? Why is the tremendous harm being done to that child allowed to stand? Because it would hurt the parent's feelings?!?! (How leftist!) How can that possible benefit the society or the child?

And WHY are so many of you Alt Righters apparently willing to let the SPECIES -- and our subspecies: White Euro-derived humans -- be 'bred down' and 'bred out' to create mongrels and people unable to succeed in our nation and society?!

Eugenics -- breeding good to good (I'm not suggesting only the best to the best: no dog, horse, or cattle breeder does that) to, if not increase, at least maintain what created this nation and civilization?!

Blogger DJ|Bonky August 06, 2017 3:23 PM  

You give OR DHS to much credit in assuming they actually have an agenda, let alone the ability to execute on one.

Blogger Elizabeth August 06, 2017 4:12 PM  

@41 - Chris Mallory,
I suggested to my friend that her niece be sterilized and my friend agreed. The niece is her own guardian and her mother can't force her, yet she's the one stuck raising her three half-black grandchildren. The niece won't pursue the baby daddy for child support.

Are the borderline ones more dangerous because they are more intelligent, relatively speaking?

Blogger Shimshon August 06, 2017 4:19 PM  

@46 They're more dangerous because they lack empathy. And because they're intelligent.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 06, 2017 4:28 PM  

Never forget that state child services depts are almost exclusively staffed by people with degrees in social work, the college major with the lowest mean IQ (and 99.999% SJW.)

Terrible combination.

Blogger dc.sunsets August 06, 2017 4:30 PM  

Sadly, money (or any kind of assistance) is fungible.

It is impossible to ameliorate the suffering of a child without enabling the barbarism of the parents.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 06, 2017 4:30 PM  

If I understand correctly, the courts decided long ago that IQ tests couldn't be used for placement in schools -- something that correlates with IQ perhaps better than anything else. So we now have a whole industry of college, military, and work placement tests that attempt to accomplish the same thing without being close enough to an IQ test to get the attention of a judge.

But an IQ test can be used to judge parenting ability -- something that requires traits beyond intelligence far more than academic success does? Amazing.

Anonymous Killua August 06, 2017 4:38 PM  

I am very interested in this topic. I would like to know if IQ "peaks" at some point in you life (at certain age) or if there are ways to increase it. I remember Vox said one time that IQ is basically a measure of how fast can you think. So is there a way to increase the sped at which neurons transmit signals inside your brain?

Thanks

Blogger Cail Corishev August 06, 2017 4:46 PM  

Its clear that [CPS's] objective isn't to help children. Its to snare as many people as possible in their net.

Yes. You can count on them to do the wrong thing most of the time, and that may include baiting parents in an iffy situation into doing something that makes it look worse. It's all about getting themselves control over the family so they can require regular visits and oversee everything from nutrition to education. Because they know better, of course.

People think I'm kidding when I say I wouldn't call CPS if I saw my neighbors beating their kids with baseball bats. I'm not. I might go stop it myself, but no way would I bring that hell down on any family.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 06, 2017 4:56 PM  

I would like to know if IQ "peaks" at some point in you life (at certain age)

Your IQ score stays pretty stable throughout your life, because it's adjusted for your age and sex. In other words, if you're a 20-year-old man with a 100 IQ, that means you're right in the middle of the 20-year-old male cohort, and you'll still be in the middle of that cohort at age 40, so you'll still have a 100 IQ.

Raw (unadjusted) IQ does increase to a certain point and then decrease for the rest of your life. I've seen different claims about the peak age, but I think it averages about age 30. Some aspects of IQ may peak at different ages. But after age 40 or so, we're really just trying to hang on.

Can you increase it? No. Doing mental exercises may help you feel a little sharper and more prepared for intellectual work. Eating right and getting enough sleep will help you apply it best on things like tests. But you can't increase it the way exercise increases muscle strength. If you come up with a way to, the entire education industry will beat a path to your door with a blank check.

Anonymous Killua August 06, 2017 5:23 PM  

@Cail Corishev. I imagined it was something like that. I have read that dual n-back tests could increase IQ, but the evidence for it is not very strong.

Blogger dvdivx August 06, 2017 6:11 PM  

The couple should sue based on Somalis are around the same IQ yet are aloud children. What they are saying is whites need a minimum IQ. Blacks don't because that's racist.

Anonymous yukonyon August 06, 2017 6:21 PM  

DCSF probably administered the I.Q. test in pencil, then changed the answers to suit their own purposes. Just another form of state brutality.

Blogger DonReynolds August 06, 2017 6:45 PM  

Under the old standards, Idiot was an IQ of under 70. Somehow, the Oregon legislature was persuaded that Idiots cannot properly raise their own Idiots, consistent with the community standards.

This is a half step away from sterilization of the "feeble minded", since they cannot be permitted to breed "irresponsibly" in this society. This is supported by US Supreme Court decisions penned by Oliver Wendell Holmes, who sat on the court from 1902 to 1932.

In Buck v Bell (1927), Holmes wrote the majority opinion (8-1), which still stands and included the following....

" It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. [...] Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

German defense attorneys at the Nuremberg Trials after WWII made the most of opinions by the US Supreme Court in defense of their own social hygiene legislation, also called the Nuremberg Laws of the Nazi state.

Blogger Gospace August 06, 2017 7:09 PM  

I've had 2 encounters with CPS, though I think it was called something else. The first time I had 3 kids in my house that didn't belong to me because Mom went slightly batty and was admitted to the psychiatric ward of the local hospital. Dad was away on business, and we couldn't get hold of him. (pre-cell phone days.) I called them to explain the situation and they asked: 1: Are you feeding them? 2: Do you have clothes for them? With yes to both, they said "Sounds good to us." and hung up on me. That's kind of an area where I think they should have been interested. Oh, we knew that Mom was a battered wife. She grew up with an abusive father and thought that was normal...

The second time they wanted permission to speak to one of kids (age 5) in private. My answer was NO! NO! and NO!. And that was the end. Incident at a well run day care center that was a state certified kindergarten.

Nowadays CPS has a lot more power. And that's NOT A GOOD THING!

Blogger Robert Divinity August 06, 2017 8:00 PM  

Oregon and Washington unlawfully used lobotomy to control and neuter the mentally ill long after the courts prohibited the procedure. Without Googling I believe both states continued to do so into at least the mid-Seventies and only stopped under duress. Eugenics were an integral part of progressivism, and Oregon and Washington embraced both. Will they continue to do so with parenting if someone shouts "racist?" It should make for good theatre.

Blogger seeingsights August 06, 2017 8:49 PM  

'50. Cail Corishev August 06, 2017 4:30 PM
If I understand correctly, the courts decided long ago that IQ tests couldn't be used for placement in schools -- something that correlates with IQ perhaps better than anything else. So we now have a whole industry of college, military, and work placement tests that attempt to accomplish the same thing without being close enough to an IQ test to get the attention of a judge.

But an IQ test can be used to judge parenting ability -- something that requires traits beyond intelligence far more than academic success does? Amazing.'

There's also the Supreme Court decision Griggs vs. Duke Power. I don't interpret that decision as banning IQ tests in hiring, but that decision has had a chilling effect: corporations do not give IQ tests for prospective employees.

That decision is bad economics. Allowing corporations to give IQ tests would increase economic efficiency--corporations would quickly identify people who are capable of performing the work. Another bad consequence of the court decision is that it contributes to credentialism. College degrees are now used as a proxy for intelligence. And a college degree is much more expensive than an IQ test.

Griggs vs Duke Power is a decision that I'd like to see right-of-center judges undermine. Perhaps this can be part of an "Alt-Right" judicial philosophy. One political consequence of overturning Griggs vs Duke Power is that our colleges would be deflated--the desire for a college degree would decrease. Since most of those in our colleges are liberal/left, liberals/lefties would be hurt.

This also ties in with my proposed rule of action: use any and all legal means to hurt the left.



Anonymous Mr. Rational August 06, 2017 9:18 PM  

seeingsights wrote:Griggs vs Duke Power is a decision that I'd like to see right-of-center judges undermine.
Hell, just overturn it.  We've got decades worth of evidence that IQ is THE single most important attribute for judging the capability of an employee for any kind of mental work.  This has been in print since "The Bell Curve" in 1994.

Perhaps this can be part of an "Alt-Right" judicial philosophy.
Griggs, Brown vs. Board of Education, Wickard vs. Filburn, Shelley vs. Kraemer, the list goes on and on.

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Anonymous Killua August 06, 2017 9:48 PM  

"College degrees are now used as a proxy for intelligence"

There is also your grades and how long it took you to finish college, which is correlated to intelligence.

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Blogger tuberman August 06, 2017 10:00 PM  

42. Avalanche

"Oh no no no! We do NOT want to keep somali offspring in our hi-tech, civilized country that requires at least a 100 IQ to succeed! NOT EVEN AS PETS! The can go home with their parents! (I would not object to sterilizing the lot of them before sending them back!)"

Obviously, you did not pick up my suggestion, which is that if the Muslims and especially ones like the Somalis go so far off their nut as they are prone to do, they will reap the whirl wind.

That means free helicopter rides for all, or just wiping them out in mass. These imbeciles will take everything to the limits, and their whole tribe will pay. Their children will not go back if that is true, but they will not stay here either.

Things will get very bad with the Muslims both here and in Europe before their whole tribe gets payback, but history suggests, yes, even their kids will pay.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 06, 2017 10:15 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:The fashies are going to love this because they want both eugenics and welfare but it's a short-term fix and will end badly.

You really ought to stop doing this. It makes you look and sound like a gargantuan, un-thought-out and spineless faggot.

'Welfare' amongst an ethnically homogeneous society has proven -- over and over again -- to be ethnically advantageous and self-advancing.

Further: a 'eugenics' confined to a self-fulfilling populous is, by definition, good for that population and is so in itself.

Or, you can just continue to pretend to be smarter than you actually are and see how that works out for you when shit gets real.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 06, 2017 11:25 PM  

Eugenics is how you get Jews. Welfare is how you get homo sapiens sapiens.

I'm not just smarter than you, I'm a certified neanderthal (100% master race). The original huwhite man!

Come at me bro.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine August 06, 2017 11:49 PM  

@67. I'm, what's your plan to control unwed mothers? Logic leads me to conclude that that will be an issue in any society, no matter how homogeneous, unless you make them ineligible for it somehow.

As long as gov-daddy is feeding slut-mommy, she's going to produce more slut-mommies and gone-daddies. There WILL be a slut mommy to start the whole party off sooner or later, no matter how homogeneous the population.

Anonymous Korbin Ransley August 07, 2017 12:18 AM  

@68 "Huwhite Nation!" kek 8^)

When it comes to breeding with a purpose maybe something along the lines of incentives would work. Isn't population growth slowing down around the world anyways?

Having a number of "redpilled" white ethnostates that respected/protected Christians and Christianity, and were not land locked would be really nice.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents August 07, 2017 12:46 AM  

Isn't population growth slowing down around the world anyways?

Not in Africa.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable August 07, 2017 1:31 AM  

Oregon is a Whitopia, but good luck adopting a non-black. One of the six Democrat-controlled states, and you could be forgiven for thinking that the KKK never went away...

Anonymous Bobby Farr August 07, 2017 2:58 AM  

Although not as fast or satisfying, mass sterilization of the low IQ tied to access to disability payments and early prison release might be a cheaper way of partially addressing the 100M foreigner problem.

Anonymous Anonymous August 07, 2017 3:47 AM  

Spam cleanup on aisles @62 and @63.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 07, 2017 3:51 AM  

tuberman wrote:That means free helicopter rides for all, or just wiping them out in mass.
The Zoomalis deserve something special.  Slow-roasting over fires-type special.  Something to make their ilk NEVER want to come here under any circumstances.

history suggests, yes, even their kids will pay.
Even their law-abiding, secular offspring must be erased from the genetic legacy of Europa.

Korbin Ransley wrote:Isn't population growth slowing down around the world anyways?
Not in Afreaka.  Given the massive volume of food aid literally feeding this population explosion, the most beneficial policy for the continent and the planet might be to insert some slow-acting poison into it to wipe out a majority of its recipients and insert a deep distrust of such aid in the survivors.

Anonymous Clay August 07, 2017 4:15 PM  

Oh Lord. The Bell curve.

Such a waste of time. The only thing I have seen to help verify it's points is Ancestry.Com.

I notice people of color, especially those of West African heritage, (Sorry you Nubian Kings & Queens), don't seem to be all that screaming to declare your ancestry.

Blogger Strelnikov August 07, 2017 4:28 PM  

I don't know. Maybe she's just too stupid to figure out why this is happening.

Blogger Meimou August 07, 2017 9:57 PM  

Slow roasting humans over a fire? People who think like you are the one who need to be sterilized.

Anonymous Mr. Rational August 08, 2017 12:06 AM  

@77  Zoomalis aren't humans.  When they are allowed into human societies, they are parasites at best.  They prey upon shipping but produce nothing of value wherever they are.

An exemplary roasting of a few Zoomalis to make the rest stay TFOO Western societies would be a boon to all humans.

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