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Saturday, August 19, 2017

Unintended consequences

This is why it never pays to overreact to what other people are doing. Be patient and observant, and you'll see that there are usually silver linings and new opportunities that are exposed by every action, however ill-intended:
Earlier this week, internet hosting provider, GoDaddy, announced it had cancelled US neo-Nazi website, Daily Stormer, for posting an attack on Heather Heyer, the protester who was murdered at the Klan rally in Charlottesville last week. Google and CloudFlare likewise cancelled its registration after the site tried to move its hosting over to their respective services.

But while these hosting services are being congratulated by some – and condemned by others on free-speech grounds – for ensuring that those looking to commit violence have to work slightly harder to get access to their like-minded Nazi communities, those who own the means of transmission – namely Google, Facebook and Twitter – are still preventing the rest of us from accessing information that allows people to make sense of the world around us.

Earlier this month, Google altered its algorithm – allegedly in an attempt to address the ‘fake news’ problem – and in doing so, a broad array of anti-establishment news organisations, whistleblower, civil-rights and anti-war websites were censored from its search listings. But most people were too distracted by the opinions of some low-level engineer on Google’s diversity hiring policies and its intolerance of conservative views in the workplace to take notice.

The data released by WSWS shows that since Google altered its algorithm, Wikileaks experienced a 30% decline in traffic from Google searches. Democracy Now fell by 36%. Truthout dropped by 25%. Its own traffic dropped by 67% percent over the same period. Alternet saw a 63% decline in traffic. Media Matters saw a 36% drop in traffic. Counterpunch.org fell by 21%. The Intercept fell by 19%.

In May, WSWS was ranked 5th in Google searches for the keyword ‘socialism’. Today the WSWS is nowhere to be found in the top 200 searches for the same keyword. In addition, Google blocked every one of WSW’s top 45 search terms.

Aaron Kaufman, director of development at progressive news outlet, Common Dreams said that Google Search as a percentage of total traffic to the Common Dreams website has decreased nearly 50 percent since May.
Of course, this really shouldn't be a surprise. After all, as I have conclusively demonstrated, if you shoot at Nazis, you're mostly going to hit leftists.

Google is not the only player in this censorship game. Earlier last year, anti-establishment information services – Renegade Inc included – experienced a 20% drop in traffic to its Facebook pages, after the social-network altered its algorithm, again, allegedly in an attempt to crack down on ‘fake news’.

Perhaps these leftist sites should stop attempting to push Fake News. It's interesting to note that since this crackdown on Fake News, the traffic here has observably risen. I doubt there is any actual connection, but it is an amusingly timed coincidence.

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62 Comments:

Anonymous Killua August 19, 2017 4:22 AM  

Reminds me of shadowbanning on Twitter. I wonder how could you even realize if you are shadowbanned. It is hard to tell -_- I don't know if it is a cruel joke or a genius idea. Probably both.

Blogger LP9 August 19, 2017 5:04 AM  

Great post, documentation is everything.

Google to apple, etc., were all evil from day one.

Feel nothing, don't react to nonsense, to over react is to allow evil to taint you, just like stress is a mere temptation to disregard; be quick to read/listen, slow to react to this worlds evil; Godaddy's a joke, to react reflects a person was tainted by some evil gang like covereged SJW'ers, as illogical as they are.

John B Wells, PJW even innocent, super smart and kind Vox, Elfwick (others) were banned by twitter/youtube by the same invisible group of gatekeepers just like godaddy.

I deny support to godaddy and these hateful people hating upon innocent people via mere petty projection, I thank God we have our own platforms via the web or self employment.

Anonymous Looking Glass August 19, 2017 5:13 AM  

The Anarcho-Tyranny approach that the Left is headed towards only works when the Top is aligned with their Thug base. It's actually an exploitable issue. In fact, if you could cut off the money flow, the thugs will turn on the leaders.

Hmm... about that thought.

Blogger Francis Parker Yockey August 19, 2017 5:14 AM  

Well, I'm sure TPTB are happy with the wikileaks results. And the commies at Counterpunch have a little bit too much to say about wars for Israel, and about the Palestinians, to be popular with them. But the rest? Sure seems like an own goal.

By the way, anyone who doesn't realize that Google has been manipulating search results for a long time-- do a Google image search for "white American couple."

Blogger Robert What? August 19, 2017 5:26 AM  

I rarely use Google any more. Mainly DuckDuckGo.

OpenID markstoval August 19, 2017 6:09 AM  

"I rarely use Google any more. Mainly DuckDuckGo."

It would be nice if we could somehow convince our side and the normals that Google should be avoided.

"... do a Google image search for "white American couple.""

Oh my God. That was something to see. Google must be avoided.

Anonymous VFM0265 August 19, 2017 6:14 AM  

Wow...yeah...and the first ACTUAL white american couple are "white trashy" types with Nazi t-shirt.....You'd think it was a joke, all the black people, etc...

Francis Parker Yockey, thanks for the heads up. It's DuckDuckGo all the way, now.

Anonymous TheHiss August 19, 2017 7:04 AM  

I just searched "white american couple" on DuckDuckGo images and got exactly the same result as from Google.

Anonymous Ator August 19, 2017 7:06 AM  

As stupid as you have to be to still call yourself a "Nazi" after all these years, you have to be that much more idiotic to call yourself a "Socialist". Yet, here we are with the "World Socialist Websites". Nazism was tried in one country and failed horribly. Socialism was tried in dozens of countries and failed horribly in every single one. Naive fools!

Anonymous TheHiss August 19, 2017 7:07 AM  

... and Bing and Yahoo and Ecosia.

Blogger Mats August 19, 2017 7:07 AM  

Or you could search just "white couple".

Anonymous Rocklea August 19, 2017 7:09 AM  

"do a Google image search for "white American couple"

Nope DuckDuckGo is no different, America is African. Even just search American couple and you get the same result.

Anonymous TheHiss August 19, 2017 7:13 AM  

Now try "white English couple - even better

Blogger VD August 19, 2017 7:13 AM  

Nazism was tried in one country and failed horribly.

It was moderately successful in Taiwan, Syria, and Iraq. Less so in China and Vietnam.

Anonymous Rocklea August 19, 2017 7:14 AM  

Wow, "white couple -black" improves your results drastically, but pop in the word "American" and you're back to chocolate city.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan August 19, 2017 7:16 AM  

Cville was an exercise in mass hysteria creation and management and little more

Blogger sconzey August 19, 2017 7:17 AM  

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Blogger sconzey August 19, 2017 7:18 AM  

I've noticed over the past couple of months it's become a lot harder to find something from this blog's archive using Google. I used to be able to search for 'vox day [keywords from article]'. Now something like 50% of the first-page results are criticism, and the ones actually from the blog are irrelevant to the keywords.

Blogger Ransom Smith August 19, 2017 7:37 AM  

Media Matters getting censored is hilarious. I'm sure they're likely raising stink about it.

Anonymous Davyyd August 19, 2017 7:48 AM  

Duck duck go uses Google to search. You benefit by using them due to Google not tracking you. The same with Start Page. The only other big web scraper is Bing.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. August 19, 2017 8:26 AM  

Ghostery. If you're going to use pretty much any browser other than TOR (which uses Firefox's code base).


Blogger Jimmy Glover August 19, 2017 8:29 AM  

The alt.right blog was just removed. How to get our own platforms if no where to post?

Blogger VD August 19, 2017 8:41 AM  

How to get our own platforms if no where to post?

I don't understand that question.

Blogger Daniel August 19, 2017 8:52 AM  

Yup. American inventors too

Anonymous Rocklea August 19, 2017 8:54 AM  

Must be Mary Beard's America

Blogger Gordon August 19, 2017 9:02 AM  

What Jimmy means is that how can we build our own platforms if no one will host the platforms?

Blogger VD August 19, 2017 9:06 AM  

What Jimmy means is that how can we build our own platforms if no one will host the platforms?

The hosts are the platforms. Build them. Someone else did. We can too.

Anonymous johnc August 19, 2017 9:12 AM  

The interesting thing about TDS being shoah'd was how it was done.

An organization backed by large numbers merely sent a public tweet to GoDaddy telling them to drop TDS. GoDaddy immediately complied and gave TDS 24 hours. They just didn't want to have anything to do with the negative publicity and boycotts that would surely follow had they not complied.

It's amazing what leverage you have when you're organized in large numbers.

Blogger seeingsights August 19, 2017 9:14 AM  

I submit that the results from the Google search--lowering the rankings of assorted left wing websites--was not unintended. The Google search results are designed to favor the globalist elite. While there are left wing groups which are tools for the globalist elite (such as those funded by Soros) there are lefties who are independent from the globalists. For example, I know some lefties who are against the EU also.

Blogger rumpole5 August 19, 2017 9:34 AM  

"White heterosexual couple" search will get you some white couples on google.

Anonymous Crew August 19, 2017 9:51 AM  

First they ignore you.

Then they laugh at you.

Then they fight you.

Then you win!

Anonymous Crew August 19, 2017 9:53 AM  

BTW, there is something wrong with the way the verifying stuff appears on Chrome.

It chops off the upper part so sometimes you have to guess what you are looking for.

Anonymous BBGKB August 19, 2017 10:15 AM  

do a Google image search for "white American couple.""

Try "ISIS is a terrorist group " https://gab.ai/BGKB/posts/10931186 Or "White man white woman"

The Google search results are designed to favor the globalist elite.

Maybe they let the affirmative actions help.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 19, 2017 10:27 AM  

It's interesting to note that since this crackdown on Fake News, the traffic here has observably risen.

If you're doing the enemy's memes, you're doing it wrong.

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 19, 2017 10:29 AM  

VD wrote:How to get our own platforms if no where to post?

I don't understand that question.


I'll translate. How do we build media institutions if no one will host our platforms?

Blogger Aeoli Pera August 19, 2017 10:30 AM  

The answer being, build the hosting, then build the platforms, then build the institutions.

Blogger pdwalker August 19, 2017 10:35 AM  

worst case, they block your networking, in which case you build your own communication networks.

Anonymous CarlSagansFloatingDragon August 19, 2017 10:36 AM  

First they tell people to ignore you.

Then they tell people to laugh at you.

Then they attack you.

Then they tell other people to fight you.

Then they say they were never really wanting to fight.

Then they say they are afraid of you.

They they say other people are afraid of you.

Then they ask you what you want to stop doing what you're doing.

Then you win!

Blogger Peter Jackson August 19, 2017 10:39 AM  

Switched to Bing; seems to work fine.

Blogger Peter Jackson August 19, 2017 10:40 AM  

The data released by WSWS shows that since Google altered its algorithm...

I think they mean since Google fired James Damore.

Blogger Dirk Manly August 19, 2017 10:46 AM  

@18

"I've noticed over the past couple of months it's become a lot harder to find something from this blog's archive using Google. I used to be able to search for 'vox day [keywords from article]'. Now something like 50% of the first-page results are criticism, and the ones actually from the blog are irrelevant to the keywords."

include the following search term:

site:voxday.blogspot.com


this restricts the results.

You can have broader results:

site:blogspot.com

will search all of the blogspot domain

Or more restricted results:
site:voxday.blogspot.com/2017/07


Basically, "site:" uses the URL as a filtering term

You can also do the opposite
-site:voxday.blogspot.com

If you want to see what everyone else is saying....

Anonymous Panzer Man August 19, 2017 10:48 AM  

Here's an interesting video by Red Ice Radio. It sounds like they may have enough evidence to bring charges against some of the hackers who have been attacking sites lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUIgvLu2d9Q

Plus some more interesting commentary.

Anonymous NH August 19, 2017 10:57 AM  

For business, I really need a list of alternatives and who to avoid at this point. Anyone know a good list?

Replacing things like adwords, hosting, merchant services... These are more difficult than merely opting out of searching with Google. And we're getting to the point where it affects many aspects of doing business.

Anonymous Rfvujm August 19, 2017 11:11 AM  

Regarding increased traffic: anecdotally, since the Diversity Memo leaked, I've noticed a huge increase in links here to VP, and screenshots of blog posts, on /pol/.

Blogger kurt9 August 19, 2017 11:22 AM  

I got rid of my Chrome and am now using Pale Moon. Pale Moon has the added benefit of using DuckDuckGo as its default search engine. Its the little things we do in our lives that improve them.

Anonymous WhoKnows August 19, 2017 11:35 AM  

Try SearX.me, Qwant.com, and Startpage.com. All privacy respecting.

Anonymous BBGKB August 19, 2017 11:40 AM  

(((FAKE-NEWS)))cries because people don't believe their narrative
https://qz.com/1057362/charlottesville-violence-a-survey-monkey-poll-of-americans-has-ugly-results/

Blogger Cail Corishev August 19, 2017 11:57 AM  

Here's an interesting video by Red Ice Radio. It sounds like they may have enough evidence to bring charges against some of the hackers who have been attacking sites lately:

That's an interesting possibility. My normal impulse, like most right-wingers, is not to expect aid from the legal system, because it's been converged with left-wing activists for years. We were better off counting on private institutions. But with President Trump's court appointments and Sessions as AG, that calculus may be changing.

It would feel weird to seek refuge with the courts against oppressive private businesses -- uh oh, I'm gonna get called a collectivist again!

Blogger roughcoat August 19, 2017 1:05 PM  

On the surface Limestone Networks looks pretty good. They explicitly state if your content is legal, it will be left alone.

It's probably possible for attackers to cause them enough problems (blacklisting IPs, attacks, etc) to get them to boot you, but that is true of any third party hosting service.

Blogger Greg Hunt August 19, 2017 1:15 PM  

Google.mx produced the correct results of a search last year, but has since been "corrected".

Bing produces exactly the same results as Google and all of the others.

The search term than creates the fake-results appears to be "American". Searching for "famous scientists" produces the expected real-results. "White couples" showed mostly white couples, mostly.

Blogger Cail Corishev August 19, 2017 2:44 PM  

On the surface Limestone Networks looks pretty good.

It does, thanks. They define "abuse" specifically as spam and hosting attacks. If they stick to that...

I spent a few minutes researching Russian VPS yesterday. It's a little pricey, plus in general they don't have the best reputation for quality.

Anonymous SumDood August 19, 2017 2:45 PM  

Paul Kersey's blog (sbpdl) is now invite-only at blogger. But no contact info for author. Anyone know if it was sjw action or Paul's choice?

Blogger Cail Corishev August 19, 2017 2:47 PM  

The "American couples" thing is more an artifact of the way search engines try to read your mind today, rather than anything specifically nefarious (though there could be shenanigans at times too). Basically, they reflect what you see in other media, like in TV ads, returning those results because A) that's what's plastered all over high-traffic sites, and B) there are a lot of searches for it. I'm going to write in more detail about it on my blog.

Blogger DonReynolds August 19, 2017 3:56 PM  

WE have seen this before, back when the big effort was to wire all the public and private schools with internet access. The information police insisted it was vital to PROTECT THE CHILDREN from web sites that were not intended for little kids. The first inclination was a clean sweep of the internet for everything that was not kid proof, or age appropriate, or suitable for children. Suddenly, we saw the compromise position...web sites would verify the age of the user, but they lost the battle on internet content. Now they simply block sites, rather than remove them altogether.

Now the internet fascists are trying again to drive off competing ideas and hurtful (factual) information, claiming that it bullies children into bad behavior or crimes or suicide.

The battle for freedom of the internet hopefully will not end up like the battle for public libraries. WE essentially lost that battle because the professional association of librarians was completely converged and they developed their own version of the old Catholic "Civil List".

Blogger Geoarrge August 19, 2017 4:09 PM  

Why you let white supremacists talk:

1. The more overt they are allowed to be, the less reason to suspect other people of covert racism.

2. People who want to have an honest discussion of ethnic identity can speak freely without worry of being caught in purges targeted at white supremacists.

3. They're not that bright. They do not have secret powers of persuasive Hitler magic. If you believe that your arguments and cause are better, there is no reason to be afraid of their attempts to recruit your audience. You might get to indoctrinate some of them.

Blogger Meimou August 19, 2017 4:17 PM  

Burroughs
Wasn't it the whole point of National Socialism that it was a hybrid of Left and Right?

Yes, it was economically Left wing. But it was Right wing in its radically essentialist view of race, and its hierarchical vision of an organically integrated society of different human types.


Why exactly is a radically essentialist view of race right wing? Why would the right part of the spectrum take this into account? How?

Why are you even using the outdated political spectrum anyway? You just implied that economics is just one aspect of ideology.

It's a political grid, not a spectrum. To generalize:

On the upper left quadrant you have left wing authoritarianism. They are economically and socially left,they believe in a state with broad sweeping powers without real limits. They see the state as a nurturing motherfigure(not necessarily a good one) with unlimited powers as long as the pretext is to nurture. They don't believe the concept of inherent rights. If they have the power to do something they do it. LAs then to be control freaks and overall cretins.

Examples: Saul Alinsky and his ilk, Hitler, social justice Warriors and feminist

In the lower left quadrant you have non authoritarian leftest,they are socially liberal but economically libertarian, they don't believe in the overbearing constraints and control of the free market. They believe in welfare social systems, but their mother figure like government isn't as overbearing and controlling as with the authoritarian leftest. They are classical liberals.

Examples: Sam Harris, David Rubin, Sargon of Akkad. Sargon actually took the political composs quiz online.

On the right upper quadrant we have
Right wing authoritarians. They see the state as this strict father figure that's supposed to protect us from our vices and lower nature, they tend to be punitive in terms of law and order; these are the people that think you should get 5 years mandatory sentence for having a joint, they are the people who thinks a 15 year old girl that sends naked picture of herself to her boyfriend should be charged with child pronography. They are libertarian economically and conservative socially. Right wing control freaks reside here.

Examples: Hamilton, Ann Coulter, Mark Levin, the types that love Fox news.

In the lower right quadrant we have the non authoritarian, what makes this quadrant unique is that two somewhat different ideologies dwell here: libertarians and Paleo conservatives.

Libertarians are economically libertarian(obviously) and socially liberal. They are classical liberals who believe in a small limited government. Like non athoritarian leftest, they believe in live and let live, but with in smaller government.

Examples: Rothbard, Jesse Ventura, Mises


Paleo conservatives are economically libertarian and socially conservative, but unlike authoritarian conservatives, they are less likely to use the force of the state to push their social values on others. They believe in small and limited government. They tend to very handsome and good in bed.

Examples: Pat Buchanan, Ron Paul, Alex
Jones, James Allsup, Ben Sharpio(eww)

The ideological grid isn't perfect, it doesn't take into account nationalism, religion, or race realism, but is the best measure of ideology we have. Let's use it.

PS. Socialism is for fags.

Blogger Meimou August 19, 2017 4:25 PM  

glosoli
@DC Sunsets,

'basic capitalist, market-based economics'

Capitalism succeeds not because of market-based competition, but because capitalists are able to buy influence. They gain favours from governments, and reward the pols with nice consultancy jobs.
They seek open borders, to lower their labour


Marxist right? You guys talk like this. What you discrib is cronyism. In a free market, the state would be to small to give a specific business an edge.

Anonymous patrick kelly August 19, 2017 4:31 PM  

"In a free market, the state would be to small to give a specific business an edge."

.. or able to protect itself from take over or subjugation buy larger less free states or markets.

Blogger LP9 August 19, 2017 5:49 PM  

Google screwing up, so, so great!

Blogger Bilroy August 19, 2017 6:24 PM  

Libertarian socialism is a fantasy. That's what's wrong with the political compass. It doesn't factor in reality while you're deciding which political statements sound nice.

Anonymous SumDood August 19, 2017 7:51 PM  

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/google-bans-gab/

Google bans Gab app from play store.

Blogger JohnnyRidden August 21, 2017 3:35 PM  

This is actually NOT a screw up, but revenge against the Bernouts. They've managed to find a way to make a pogrom look like an ACCIDENT! That's... pretty damn clever, actually.
One thread that binds all these sites together Vox: Absolutely none of them were EVER for the Clinton Cultists. Other notable drops: MintPress, Colorlines and Fusion (interviewed then supported the Honduran woman sparking anti-clinton protests across the west coast, Fusion later 'bent the knee' and got taken off the WaPo fake news list), Consortium, along with those you mentioned. Some of them have known about it for awhile, look up "Neo-McCarthyism"
https://www.blackagendareport.com/hillary_clinton_neo-mccarthyism
Yeah, that's right, the commies branded the marxists as McCarthyites. What an amazing timeline!
It all dates back to the Kosnian Civil War https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/3/4/1495813/-March-15-and-Daily-Kos-transition-to-General-Election-footing this is where the fracture first surfaced.
Some of the funnier and more obviously hypocritical ones USED to be against Clinton....in 2012-2014. Huffpo amongst them, oddly enough! Other kneejerk-reversal notables: DailyDot and DailyBeast
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/laura-carlsen/clinton-act-to-avoid-a-ma_b_297394.html
How cheap one's soul must be in this day and age. If only the devil had bided his time!
Wherever you go, here's a fun thing to do. Look up the last anti-clinton articles written during the primaries, then look at the authors' contributions. If they weren't fired immediately, then they ceased political commentary until the 8th. The payoffs are all too obvious.
In some cases, like Ms Carlsen's, they have for some reason expunged the articles of anything that might date them. Perhaps to give the impression they were "only against the first female president oh so long ago, before we were the enlightened few guiding America's progress!"
I presume keeping your articles unaltered rested entirely upon how hard you bent that knee and how fast!
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/31/the-bernie-bros-narrative-a-cheap-false-campaign-tactic-masquerading-as-journalism-and-social-activism/ As you might expect, those shitlord sites assembled above have no recourse but to be utterly exterminated for crossing too far a line. Upsetting the "prime narrative."

Hey, sounds almost like star trek TNG doesn't it? Just replace narrative with (as she would have) "directive." Whaddya know. SJs DO learn things from Sci-fi. All the WRONG things.

That all said, it looks like the progressive pogrom really IS in full swing now. And for all their blathering nonsense about "larping nazis" get a load of who the REAL new nazis are!
http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/241981/googles-new-hate-speech-algorithm-has-a-problem-with-jews

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