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Sunday, September 17, 2017

An educational juxstaposition

GAB: to two different people, neither of whom was me.

1. "If our registrar requires us to remove something again we will publish it here and let everyone know that you whined to them because someone hurt your feelings with mean words on the internet."

2. "We just don't "moderate" to the whining crybaby standards of your husband."

Gab has also permitted the posting of home addresses, in direct contradiction to its Terms of Service,.
I've now counted and screen-capped FOUR address postings on Gab, by various Gab users, in direct violation of Texas SEC. 33.07. ONLINE HARASSMENT. The offense is a Class B misdemeanor.


TWITTER: to me, in response to three different reports of tweets which varied in their degree of abusiveness.

1. Thank you for contacting us about this issue. We’ve investigated and suspended the account you reported as it was found to be participating in abusive behavior. If these problems persist for you on Twitter, please let us know.

Thanks,
Twitter


2. Thank you for contacting us about this issue. We have reviewed the account you reported and have locked it because we found it to be in violation of the Twitter Rules. If the account owner complies with our requested actions and stated policies, the account will be unlocked. Please continue to report any future violations of the Twitter Rules to us. We appreciate your help making Twitter better for everyone.

Thank you,
Twitter


3. Thank you for reporting this issue to us. Our goal is to create a safe environment for everyone on Twitter to express themselves freely.  We reviewed your report carefully and found that there was no violation of Twitter’s Rules regarding abusive behavior.

Thank you again for reporting this issue to us.
Twitter


Now, I'm not exactly what one would call a fan of Twitter. Their moderation is inconsistent and often applied unfairly. They partially block direct access to this blog on rather dubious grounds, and its Trust & Safety Council once suspended my account for a week for posting a picture of a cartoon fish, of all things. It also forced me to delete two of my 35,800 tweets about a year ago when I had responded to an SJW attacking me. Nevertheless, there is absolutely no question that their user experience, their moderation policies, and their reporting tools, are vastly better than Gab's.

I recommended Gab to many of you on the basis of it being an alternative to Twitter. With the benefit of hindsight, it is now apparent that doing so was a mistake. I had no idea that Gab would somehow manage to create a less professional, less viable, and even less useful alternative to Twitter. While Gab had a fair amount of potential, it simply doesn't have a management team in place that is capable of realizing that potential.

Which is why I have canceled my Pro account and returned to Twitter for the time being.

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200 Comments:

Anonymous @sadist September 17, 2017 11:06 AM  

Microchip is coming for you!

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 11:06 AM  

This isn't the end of Gab, but it's the end of Gab as a threat to Twitter because it only have Alt-White users. Therefore, as goes the Daily Stormer, so goes Gab. It's likely they will begin to have hosting issues in coming years, in which case they will probably get Weev to put them on the darknet.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 11:09 AM  

Microchip is coming for you!

So I hear. How fortunate that I am acquainted with some of his acquaintances. Someone has been been trying to crack the Castalia House security all morning; it would not surprise me if it was him.

Blogger Johnny September 17, 2017 11:11 AM  

Amazing sometimes how stupid smart people can be. What he does not get is that that what the complainers are like is a side issue of marginal importance. His interest should be on what is important and that is the well being of the company. Hey, focus on what is important.

And it would seem that he is not going to change his mind.

Blogger Ransom Smith September 17, 2017 11:12 AM  

Microchip is a larper. I screwed with his head a year ago just for fun. He's a .250 level hitter who claims to hit at .350.

Blogger SouthRon September 17, 2017 11:14 AM  

I just watched the Periscope.

@getongab Sends a big fluffy heart to make sure you know he's there. Then his first comment is, "Derp derp derp"?

Sounds like my big Samoan faggot friend. We were just joking around about how he melts down into a big emotional pile of goo at the drop of the hat. Sure he can run a small low-level team of DevOps guys, but there is no way he could run the company and he knows it.

I had no clue Andrew was so feminized.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 17, 2017 11:15 AM  

Maybe I am oversimplifying this but it appears to me that Gab is making something simple unnecessarily complicated. If a dude uses their platform to slander a person then the platform owner should either tell the dude to delete the slander or sanction the account holder who engaged in the slander while deleting the slanderous post. Why is this a difficult action for Gab to pursue?

Blogger S1AL September 17, 2017 11:17 AM  

"Why is this a difficult action for Gab to pursue?"

Some people are preferentially libertarian. Some people are fanatically Libertarian.

Torba is a zealot in the latter category. Pretty much everything he's done so far can be explained by that.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 11:20 AM  

This conflict suffices to prove that average national IQ isn't the only thing.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 17, 2017 11:20 AM  

" If a dude uses their platform to slander a person then the platform owner should either tell the dude to delete the slander or sanction the account holder who engaged in the slander while deleting the slanderous post. Why is this a difficult action for Gab to pursue?"

Because it requires adherence to actual standards, rather than the mirage Gab has tracked off (mortally) on.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 11:21 AM  

S1AL wrote:"Why is this a difficult action for Gab to pursue?"

Some people are preferentially libertarian. Some people are fanatically Libertarian.

Torba is a zealot in the latter category. Pretty much everything he's done so far can be explained by that.


+1, and you can't convert a fanatic with persecution, it just entrenches them as a martyr.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 17, 2017 11:21 AM  

Because I doubt Torba has read a single book on what "free speech" is and how his version has never existed.

Blogger Dave September 17, 2017 11:28 AM  

He's so alpha

The memes! They just get better and better.

Blogger Lemur September 17, 2017 11:31 AM  

lel Microchip won't stop, Voxy muh boy

Blogger Matt September 17, 2017 11:35 AM  

Definitely way more Alpha than you.

Maybe Gab should be renamed to Gam, short for Gamma. You're welcome for that..

Blogger Gapeseed September 17, 2017 11:36 AM  

Honestly, the legal concepts should not elude anyone with the capability of climbing to the top rung of this ladder. As such, he is being purposely obtuse for unknown reasons.

Blogger Matt September 17, 2017 11:37 AM  

Names of children and family members? Good lord. Gamma is a disease.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 17, 2017 11:44 AM  

Lemur September 17, 2017 11:31 AM
lel Microchip won't stop, Voxy muh boy



you said what to who?

allow me to congratulate you, i don't think i've ever seen anyone with that high of a Blood Derp Content write something that was superficially coherent.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 17, 2017 11:46 AM  

Gapeseed September 17, 2017 11:36 AM
As such, he is being purposely obtuse for unknown reasons.



this assumes rationality.

rationality is not a prerequisite characteristic for ownership or leadership of a company.

and rationality is mutually exclusive with drug use ... which it is not terribly uncommon for tech workers to snort the profits up their noses.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 11:47 AM  

lel Microchip won't stop, Voxy muh boy

Then he will be stopped.

Blogger Lemur September 17, 2017 11:50 AM  

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Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 11:51 AM  

I feel a little bit bad for Microchip.

Homosexuality and autism is a bad combination.

Thinning the white gene pool is why we need proper Native Americans like Vox Day.

Blogger Lemur September 17, 2017 11:52 AM  

Vox says he's completely detached from the gab drama. Like, he's reaching levels of dismissal which shouldn't be possible.

Yet every second blog update or 'darkstream' (hahaha what a name) kevetches about Torba, who now appears to live rent free in Vox's balding noggin.

Vox's behavour (inability to overcome even the slightest wounds to his massive ego) is actually quite common among nerds, except his case requires a little nuance in the diagnosis. Generic nerds tend to have hard-ons for rigid, rule based modes of interaction coupled with low emotional control. Vox certainly has the former, but he hides it under a layer of learned self control; a product of inner dissociation (perhaps borne of trauma) rather than maturation.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 11:52 AM  

Vox says he's completely detached from the gab drama. Like, he's reaching levels of dismissal which shouldn't be possible.

I was. I'm not anymore. This has now moved into criminal territory.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 11:57 AM  

Lemur, you're not very good at this. And this shot well past insults a long time ago. Microchip has made this far more serious, along with me now questioning if he's trying to also torpedo Gab with this, as well.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 12:00 PM  

There are now at least four counts of Class A Misdemeanors in Texas committed by three Gab users.

Blogger Dave September 17, 2017 12:00 PM  

Names of children and family members?

Makes one wonder what his employer(s), business associates, or family might think of this tactic? Sounds like a job for the VFM! oh wait, did I say that out loud?

Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 12:06 PM  

Maybe this will finally teach the Alt-Reich to stop underestimating Vox Day.

They couldn't figure out a debate, but the swastika tattoos should help them remember the prison stay.

Blogger justaguy September 17, 2017 12:09 PM  

So another libertarian Utopian idea falls to harsh reality. Want to know why libertarians are not mainstream-- because they keep trying to change reality instead of adapting to it.

Blogger Dave September 17, 2017 12:10 PM  

Don't spam Lemur please, we can't wait to hear more on nerd behavour[sic]

Blogger LP9 September 17, 2017 12:10 PM  

Going after family and inner circles...Appallingly, Vox is way smarter than Micro's circle put together.

"Also, we should look into how to get his blog removed by him not banning users who defame others he writes about. In addiction to having his books removed from Amazon."

Besides the money theory, my theory is that someone is leaning on/pushing Gab mgmt and Micro up to this or someone has placed a few bugs into their ears.

Micro is not well, not to gaslite but this is abnormal behavior unfortunately for Micro he is in a new realm, we've seen these threats before and know the playbook. Micro is also harming Gab this is not free speech... and Gab lets it go
I gabbed the link, sent to gab support, others and torba.

Blogger LP9 September 17, 2017 12:12 PM  

2 mins ago
@Microchip
Stop what? I'm merely chatting, I've done nothing wrong
Solidified in Gold · @LP9
@DarkTriadMan @DrTorch @m @Cernovich @Spacebunny @TaraMcCarthy @BrittPettibone @a @gab @Microchip http://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/09/an-educational-juxstaposition.html stop it Micro.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:14 PM  

Deleted my account. I would VERY strongly recommend anyone who - despite all the warnings to the contrary, but still we hear about this in the news all the time - has used a password on Gab which he has also used on another internet site, to change that password everywhere.

And to get wiser, and start using a keyring (or several keyrings of rising priority in importance where anything financial is at the top) of long, random, temporary passwords for each service. Just remember something like three different keyring passwords, which will each open a security "tier" of the temporary ones.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:16 PM  

You can generate random passwords here: https://www.random.org/passwords/

Since it's just a matter of copypasting after you have opened the keyring with one of the passwords you have actually memorized, it doesn't "cost" you anything to have the temporary passwords be very long. So, generate at least 16 characters.

Blogger Mastermind September 17, 2017 12:18 PM  

Vox trying really hard to spin the fact that he (and a lot of people close to him, including his family now) are gonna suffer just because he didn't keep his ego in check after some nobodies made fun of him on the Internet.

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2017 12:20 PM  

Makes one wonder who the Gab people really serve. If you think about it, they now have a large database of users who, let's face it, are mostly alt reich and/or new right. They also have personal information of the many on Gab pro.
Gab's meltdown over a simple request doesn't make much sense otherwise. Maybe Torba sold us all out and is now crashing the platform.

Anonymous jumpin' jack flash September 17, 2017 12:23 PM  

I don't see anything illegal here. He isn't threatening to kill you. Rather he is trying to report you to the authorities, and to do that he needs your Personal Identifying Information which he is seeking from the public record. You are doing the same in seeking PII from Gab in your lawsuit.

He is also trying to work on your registrar to have you removed from the internet (something that you are trying to do to Gab and their registrar). He is contacting Google to have this blog removed for "ToS violations", something that you have been trying to do to others.

Everything that you have been doing is coming back to you. Claiming to be a victim at this stage is absurd.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 12:24 PM  

@Markku

KeePass or LastPass. I recommend them to ppl a lot. Makes life so much easier.

Blogger Salt September 17, 2017 12:26 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:KeePass

Works great.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 12:27 PM  

Stormpoopers are making a come back. And they're again not very smart.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:28 PM  

Lemur, are you a muslim?

Blogger roughcoat September 17, 2017 12:28 PM  

Is the password thing because you think they're actively capturing plaintext passwords, or because you think they're dumb enough to store them in plaintext? Just curious.

I've been using a password "safe" for a while now. I pretty much have to; last time I checked I have ~60 logins to keep track of, and I'm only realistically going to remember like 10 passwords tops.

Blogger Wanderer September 17, 2017 12:29 PM  

So Trump cucks on amnesty and now the alt-right is busy fighting to remove each other off the internet. Must be a good week to be a leftist right now.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 12:30 PM  

education (n.)
1530s, "childrearing," also "the training of animals," from Middle French education (14c.) and directly from Latin educationem (nominative educatio) "a rearing, training," noun of action from past participle stem of educare (see educate). Originally of instruction in social codes and manners; meaning "systematic schooling and training for work" is from 1610s.

http://etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=education

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:30 PM  

Is the password thing because you think they're actively capturing plaintext passwords

Yes.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 12:30 PM  

As usual, the Enlightenment ruined everything.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:31 PM  

Markku wrote:Deleted my account.

Ditto.

Anonymous Man of the Atom September 17, 2017 12:32 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@Markku

KeePass or LastPass. I recommend them to ppl a lot. Makes life so much easier.


KeePass. Yep, dynamite little app.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:33 PM  

Markku wrote:Is the password thing because you think they're actively capturing plaintext passwords

Yes.


Make sure to change your password to something insulting before you delete your account.

Blogger DeploraBard September 17, 2017 12:33 PM  

What does "lel" mean?

Blogger Mastermind September 17, 2017 12:34 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Stormpoopers are making a come back. And they're again not very smart.

It's funny some of you guys think everybody who opposes Vox on this is a "stormpooper". It's virtually everybody who isn't a cultist like you. Go to any alt right site discussing this and Vox is getting absolutely shredded in the comments. You can keep drinking that kool aid if you want but there's no flying saucer coming to take you.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:34 PM  

Like lol, but more millennial.

Anonymous Man of the Atom September 17, 2017 12:36 PM  

Account deleted.

When #Alt-Retard shows it's nothing more than autistic SJW, it's time to go elsewhere.

Blogger roughcoat September 17, 2017 12:37 PM  

Well, that's disturbing if they are.

I never really used Gab but just deleted my account anyway.

Since it came up, I also like KeePass.

Anonymous polyhedron September 17, 2017 12:37 PM  

I've used Bruce Schneier's Password Safe for years. Generates and manages random passwords. Clicking on an entry puts the password on the clipboard. I guess that's a single-tier keyring scheme. How would a multi-tier keyring work?

Blogger DeploraBard September 17, 2017 12:37 PM  

Got it. Thanks.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:38 PM  

I don't KNOW if they are, it would just be consistent with their behavior. So, at least I'm going to work from the assumption that they are.

Blogger Lazarus September 17, 2017 12:38 PM  

Mastermind wrote:Go to any alt right site discussing this and Vox is getting absolutely shredded in the comment

fer instance

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:39 PM  

roughcoat wrote:Is the password thing because you think they're actively capturing plaintext passwords, or because you think they're dumb enough to store them in plaintext? Just curious.

I don't think they're THAT dumb. But I also don't think they're competent enough yet to have avoided every possible place the passwords might have appeared in plaintext. It's really easy to screw that up with zero malicious intent.

And if malicious intent appears later, then it might spend some time searching backups of logs, and such.

On the other hand, if this meltdown isn't as ingenuous as it initially seemed, perhaps this was a massive honeypot for right-wingers from the start. In that case, recording passwords would be an obvious thing to do, but they wouldn't be using plaintext passwords for authentication. The production systems would use the best security practices for authentication (bcrypt versus pbkdf2 fight: GO).

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 12:39 PM  

Remember the Daily Stormer policy. They are explicitly instructed to overstate their influence. This is just part of the game.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:40 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Mastermind wrote:Go to any alt right site discussing this and Vox is getting absolutely shredded in the comment

fer instance


My Posting Career :(

Anonymous Avalanche September 17, 2017 12:40 PM  

LGlass and Salt:
KeePass
Works great.


Second, third, and fourth this!

Also, if your bank or whoever asks for your Mother's Maiden Name? MAKE SOMETHING UP!! Store it in your password vault! Genealogy is all over the web; maiden name is SO easy to find now!

I also use fake answers (recorded carefully in the vault!) for the security questions. So, if I were ever a target (and yes, I was in the latest breach, of course -- and the Target one, and the Home Depot one and a couple random ones (local mexie restaurant, even!)and if a bad guy wanted to guess where my "eldest sibling was born" and knew where I was born -- no good guesses! No relationship at all!

I also recommend NOT letting websites 'remember your credit card' or letting your browser 'always' load flash or Java at your bank, say. It takes one or two extra clicks to run Java ONCE for the single eDeposit I am making -- and then the bank is no longer allowed to run Java till the next time I give it permission.

Also, don't let your browser remember the passwords to your banks. Maybe Amazon, sure-why-not -- unless you're bikelockfag ...; but it's worth the slight slowdown to have to copy it out of the password vault and paste it into a site (the vault then deletes it from the clipboard!) to provide just the tiniest bit of security.

Blogger roughcoat September 17, 2017 12:40 PM  

Well, they're acting nuts and it would take like 5 minutes to start capturing passwords, so... better safe than sorry.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 12:40 PM  

@Aeoli Pera

I can't even make a joke. It's normally true.


@Mastermind

I wasn't talking about you, but, I guess since you associate yourself with "Stormpooper", you have officially joined that collective. Congrats. I'm sure someone can provide a link to where to purchase a pair of swastika pantaloons.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 12:41 PM  

I don't see anything illegal here. He isn't threatening to kill you. Rather he is trying to report you to the authorities, and to do that he needs your Personal Identifying Information which he is seeking from the public record. You are doing the same in seeking PII from Gab in your lawsuit.

It's a good thing you're not a lawyer or a cop. Posting/reposting home addresses - which three different users did four times - is a class B misdemeanor under Texas Section 33.07.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 12:46 PM  

@Avalanche

You've been on the rough end of the security breaches, I see.

Side suggestion: Have Email Aliases for your major online purchasing accounts.

Part of the problem with most Login Systems is that it's Username + Password. If the Username is a public email address, the attacker already has half of the information. And, in a social engineering attack, one of the key pieces. Amazon tends to be a very common vector for this recently, so at least use a re-directing Alias for that.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:47 PM  

Remember folks, the basic goal is to get Gab to remove illegal content. Secondarily, for Gab to make it easier to remove illegal content.

You can generalize this to ANY alt-tech project, even and especially those which are associated with Vox Day.

If an Infogalactic editor posted defamatory material about someone, would you expect Crew or Rifleman to act the way @a has?

Anonymous jumpin' jack flash September 17, 2017 12:50 PM  

"It's a good thing you're not a lawyer or a cop. Posting/reposting home addresses - which three different users did four times - is a class B misdemeanor under Texas Section 33.07."

If you think that you have a case under Texas law, and you think the Texas police have the reach, report it.

Just stop the BS.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:54 PM  

If you run a publicly available service or communication product, you are negligent if you do not expect and take steps to handle malicious users. We're seeing one particular form of this play out in a nasty mess.

Something I don't believe I've seen discussed before:

Consider the people trying to SWAT their enemies, or dox them, or harass their children.

Do any of these people have children of their own? Or wives? Or any long term relationships?

What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

Anonymous IndecisiveEvidence September 17, 2017 12:54 PM  

>lol it's not illegal you moron
>Yes it is
>y-yeah well report it then you moron

WATCH THOSE GOALPOSTS MOVE

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 12:55 PM  

Vox should be mindful of dealing with Microchip via Skype. It always leaks IP addresses for both parties. The PC version also happens to be absolutely horrible. /tech grumbles

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2017 12:56 PM  

Give it a few days and Microchip should be posting thinly veiled death threats and/or incitation to violence towards you and your family on the public internet... all of which should be illegal in most jurisdictions...

Blogger Duh-ave September 17, 2017 12:58 PM  

LP9 12:10 PM . . ."someone is leaning on/pushing Gab mgmt". My thoughts as well. I'm guessing a large manilla envelope filled with photos of someone engaging a variety of pizzas. Hopefully the Texas courts are not already "fixed". Sincerest prayers for all the VFM and Vox.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 12:59 PM  

Spacebunny is obviously involved in the public discourse, and so responding to her in kind is legitimate.

Expressing the wish that she die of breast cancer is, er, not the best optics for your side. Does anyone believe that the person who said that has ever had a wife, or even touched a boob?

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 1:01 PM  

@Matthew

Well, we've found out that "boobs" is too much for most Leftists. So, maybe? Breast-Americans clearly cause Leftists fits, so many things are possible.

Anonymous Clouseau September 17, 2017 1:03 PM  

"... In addiction to having his books removed from Amazon..."

I think this is a tell. Adding that "c" is not a normal typo when typing "addition." He may well have a drug problem.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 1:03 PM  

Matthew wrote:What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

Most people, when they're sufficiently angry, afraid, or above-it-all detached.

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 1:04 PM  

It turns out Microchip was mostly pissed about my description of his intent as being to "SWAT". He preferred it to be described as "report hate speech", so I changed it and he was content with that.

Let the peace pipe be smoked.

Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 1:04 PM  

> What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

The kind of person who's been denied wife and children by the anti-whites. Which is who the Alt-Reich is pigeonholing Vox as.

It appears Microchip has been suitably impressed by the Dark Lord's mercy, however.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 1:04 PM  

Basically the same as torture that way. People are against it right up until they want to do it.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:06 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Matthew wrote:What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

Most people, when they're sufficiently angry, afraid, or above-it-all detached.


Friend, you will understand why I completely discount any of your theories about how people act, while still finding them enjoyable reading.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 17, 2017 1:09 PM  

@Matthew

Any part of genetic selection will point out the fact we're all descended from people that were willing to slaughter other tribes without much thought. All humans are capable of extreme cruelty with very little provocation. "Civility" is the built up cultural instinct to reign in the killing.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:09 PM  

Koanic wrote:> What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

The kind of person who's been denied wife and children by the anti-whites. Which is who the Alt-Reich is pigeonholing Vox as.


I have several friends in that situation. None of them would ever act this way.

But thanks for helping prove my suspicion. Bitter about not having wife and children, therefore attack others' wives and children. Completely sensible.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:10 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@Matthew

Any part of genetic selection will point out the fact we're all descended from people that were willing to slaughter other tribes without much thought. All humans are capable of extreme cruelty with very little provocation. "Civility" is the built up cultural instinct to reign in the killing.


Respectfully, but that's claptrap too.

Blogger tuberman September 17, 2017 1:11 PM  

Too much: I was going to wait, but after reading this material, I deleted account. Total SJW Lefties, no surprise.
Now Gab = Antifa

Blogger Cubby8126 September 17, 2017 1:12 PM  

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Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 1:13 PM  

Matthew wrote:Aeoli Pera wrote:Matthew wrote:What kind of person thinks it fit to attack children, to use them against their parents?

Most people, when they're sufficiently angry, afraid, or above-it-all detached.


Friend, you will understand why I completely discount any of your theories about how people act, while still finding them enjoyable reading.


Sure, you're a smart dude. But remember this too: https://aeolipera.wordpress.com/2016/09/20/divisions-of-the-american-alt-right-and-their-interests/

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:13 PM  

Cf. the oft-cited "Wrath of the Awakened Saxon".

In contrast, I will consider the idea that our present interlocutors are capable of cruelty with little provocation.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 17, 2017 1:13 PM  

Trying to change reality? That sounds awfully familiar.

Anonymous Archon September 17, 2017 1:14 PM  

I disagree. Although Gab has its rough edges, moderation iaw its TOS being a major issue, the user experience for me is generally superior to Twitter now. And that's even counting the many NAZI Clown LARPers on the platform.

Anonymous jumpin' jack flash September 17, 2017 1:14 PM  

"It turns out Microchip was mostly pissed about my description of his intent as being to "SWAT". He preferred it to be described as "report hate speech", so I changed it and he was content with that"

You have a habit of strawmanning. For example, you used a tortured reading Andrew Anglin's 'internal document' to claim that he was telling people that submit articles to do so in his name, which is absurd.

You said that Andrew Torba threatened to release emails when what he was actually doing was responding to your earlier threat to do the same (presumably to make sure there is no manipulation of the emails).

You are doing things like this constantly.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:15 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Sure, you're a smart dude.

It's not about intelligence; quite the opposite.

My UHIQ makes social stuff very much more difficult. I'm not claiming I'm smarter than you, I'm claiming that I'm far more deeply embedded in real-life social networks (by the grace of God).

Anonymous Ooh lol lol September 17, 2017 1:16 PM  

The Dark Lord's Billy Badass routine certainly rings hollow after watching him roll over for Microchip so quickly. "Yes sir, no problem sir, I'll delete anything you find offensive." Lololol. And it turns out all those scary VFM can do is delete their Gab accounts and walk away muttering to themselves about what mean jerks those guys are (no doubt this gives most of them flashbacks to their high school days). The implosion Vox Day's creepy online cult continues to delight and entertain. And remember, this entire episode was caused entirely by Vox's out of control ego, which caused him to needlessly attack Anglin and react in absurdly over the top fashion after being trolled by nobody anons. It's impossible to feel bad for Vox here, because he brought it all upon himself. He literally declared war, and now the enemy he so foolishly provoked is at his doorstep. Hubris, meet Nemesis.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 17, 2017 1:19 PM  

my theory is that someone is leaning on/pushing Gab mgmt

That's what I started thinking when I heard he'd become so chummy with the Anglinites, when it was they who brought trouble to his door in the first place. Maybe Gamma rage combined with the Silicon Valley startup model and lifestyle explains most of what has happened, but there may be more to it.

Not that it really matters, at this point. If a man starts burning down his own house, it doesn't matter why he's doing it; you get your stuff out and get clear.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:20 PM  

Hey Taylor. How you doin'?

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 1:21 PM  

The Dark Lord's Billy Badass routine certainly rings hollow after watching him roll over for Microchip so quickly. "Yes sir, no problem sir, I'll delete anything you find offensive." Lololol.

It appears to escape you that this is SOP here. I delete comments every single day here. That's why it is a healthy commenting discourse, even after 14 years of trolls and spammers attempting to wreck it.

Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 1:21 PM  

> i have several friends in that situation. None of them would ever act this way.

Who doesn't?

> But thanks for helping prove my suspicion. Bitter

I should hope it wasn't a suspicion. It's just a feature of packs of unattached feral men, and not unique to humans among mammals.

I wasn't answering your question, but undermining it: the relevant war has progressed well beyond attacking women and children. Unreciprocated decency is not just irrelevant, it's counterproductive. Eliminating the bloodlines of Leftists engaged in anti-white demographic warfare is both Biblical and proportionate.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 17, 2017 1:23 PM  

Bags of sand

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 17, 2017 1:29 PM  

Matthew wrote:Aeoli Pera wrote:Sure, you're a smart dude.

It's not about intelligence; quite the opposite.

My UHIQ makes social stuff very much more difficult. I'm not claiming I'm smarter than you, I'm claiming that I'm far more deeply embedded in real-life social networks (by the grace of God).


And I've been working kitchens on the underbelly of society long enough to know that those guys are ready to cross the Atlantic and invade Poland, for lack of any better opportunities. All it took for most of them is one marijuana conviction and their lives are effectively over.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:30 PM  

Koanic, you're speaking only to the people who already understand you. While still being wrong. Yes, it is who-whom time. But unless you're relying on Neanderthals entirely winning and wiping out the other hominids due to wits plus retard strength, you're alienating them. Consider indirect approaches.

Aeoli, I skypechatted you some boring stuff.

Blogger Lovekraft September 17, 2017 1:31 PM  

to the Torbanians commenting here: the horse has left the stable. There's nothing more to discuss. You had the chance a week or so ago and continued to double down with insults, deflection etc.

So why are you still here and what is your purpose?

We're moving on. The issues have been established and the only thing we are interested in is reports as to how extreme gab is becoming (for personal security's sake).

No, we aren't interested in giving gab our time and attention. Run along.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 17, 2017 1:32 PM  

Whom the gods seek to make mad, the Supreme Dark Lord first destroys.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 1:33 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:And I've been working kitchens on the underbelly of society long enough to know that those guys are ready to cross the Atlantic and invade Poland, for lack of any better opportunities. All it took for most of them is one marijuana conviction and their lives are effectively over.

You are thus far more familiar with the atomized and their troubles than I am. This is not a bad thing.

But it still supports my case, which is that your ideas about the non-atomized, the socially-embedded, come from reason and not experience.

Blogger Rabbi B September 17, 2017 1:36 PM  

Who knew Vox Day had so much power and lived in the heads of so many rent free. Quite amusing. THEY JUST CAN'T QUIT VOX DAY!!

Mr. Torba's petulance is the only real threat to GAB. If GAB fails or becomes irrelevant, it is because the leadership failed and failed bigly. Only shitty leaders blame others for their missteps, and Mr. Torba has made plenty.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 17, 2017 1:39 PM  

Matthew September 17, 2017 12:40 PM
My Posting Career :(



*snort*

because MPC permits unlimited Free Speech and NEVER bans anyone. uh huh.

jesus, the most unlikely people turn retarded on a dime.

Blogger Lazarus September 17, 2017 1:39 PM  

Ooh lol lol wrote:The Dark Lord's Billy Badass routine.......

No fury like a woman scorned stereotype.

Show us your tits.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams September 17, 2017 1:46 PM  

The train is now fine in Microchip's world. Time will tell if he really is smoking the peace pipe.

Mastermind, you are anything but.

Anonymous Jay Will September 17, 2017 1:47 PM  

While Rome burned the soldiers busied themselves with internet wars.

Anonymous Battlefrog September 17, 2017 1:50 PM  

I'm glad to see some sort of peace was made with Microchip. Nothing good was going to come of that. I can understand why the uninitiated might see him as childish and deranged, but I think he is more or less on the right side. Weaponizing autism does not come without side effects.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 17, 2017 1:52 PM  

remember when Taylor claimed that it was the highest insult to imply that she would come back to VP and post under an alter after formal banning?

good times, good times.

Anonymous Jay Will September 17, 2017 1:52 PM  

Look what Microchip is saying on Gab, it was a lesson. He is clearly UHIQ. Rome is burning...but somebody's wrong on the internet.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 1:54 PM  

jumpin' jack flash wrote:Just stop the BS.
That's rich.
It's like alt-Retard crying "No one likes you!"

Blogger seeingsights September 17, 2017 2:03 PM  

Wow. Not only does Torba subscribe to the Murray Rothbard/Walter Block view that defamation should be allowed, but that publishing a person's private info should be allowed too.

Blogger Were-Puppy September 17, 2017 2:03 PM  

Battlefrog wrote:I'm glad to see some sort of peace was made with Microchip. Nothing good was going to come of that. I can understand why the uninitiated might see him as childish and deranged, but I think he is more or less on the right side. Weaponizing autism does not come without side effects.



Microchip one of my favorites to follow on twitter. I hope this whole infighting thing passes soon. I don't even know why Microchip got involved in this in the first place.

Blogger Lovekraft September 17, 2017 2:13 PM  

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/09/15/free-speech-social-network-gab-files-lawsuit-google/

posted this:

gab has evolved from a promising clearing house of info and support to one infiltrated by provocateurs, Nazi larpers and uthe unhinged. Add to this the massive ego of its founder who cannot grasp the simple concept that there are really no absolutes, even when it comes to free speech. He had the choice of moderating the slander, and banning the infiltrators OR allowing gab to be reduced to a cesspool of hate and emotion. And if he expects gab to go beyond an extreme right echo chamber, the fact that he was attacking moderates does not bode well. Lessons to be learned, but one thing I discovered was that if one has any sense, he/she would stay away before it comes crashing down under a barrage of libel/hate speech litigation. Shame. Joined Aug 2016, 1300+ followers and yesterday deleted account after appealing for reason and being insulted by the founder no less.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 2:14 PM  

VD thought his mate would back him up. Torba did not. Understandably VD is pissed that he can't pick up the phone to Torba and get special treatment. I'd expect, and get, special treatment from my friends. Torba is a crap mate, simple as that.

I never did buy the pretensions to be doing gAb a favour by forcing them to fix a bug in their TOS.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore September 17, 2017 2:18 PM  

Reading these posts on Gab. Not gonna lie but my eyes welled... just a 'lil bit though. There is something about watching folks come to an agreement.

Blogger RobertT September 17, 2017 2:22 PM  

I tried Gab, but policy or no policy, it's just not as good as twitter. Death sentence.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 2:23 PM  

Re passwords, I've always preferred to use bloodylongpaswordslikethisthatwilltakeathousandyearstobreak , but halfwits insist on a numeral and an ! , as if that make sure any difference

Blogger VD September 17, 2017 2:23 PM  

I never did buy the pretensions to be doing gAb a favour by forcing them to fix a bug in their TOS.

That was never my intention. I never claimed it was. It was a beneficial side effect at most.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 2:28 PM  

A password should be something easy for humans to remember and difficult for machines to guess, like "Jasmine gave Rajah 6 kilos of monkey meat. Where's Abu?" There is simply no way to mechanically force that password.
Instead we are stuck with "8-12-characters including a numeral and a special."
Why?
When Yahoo got hacked a few years ago, the most common password turned out to be "FUCKYAHOO!1"

Blogger DeploraBard September 17, 2017 2:29 PM  

Who is Microchip?

Blogger DeploraBard September 17, 2017 2:30 PM  

I'm obviously missing something.

Anonymous Battlefrog September 17, 2017 2:34 PM  

DeploraBard wrote:Who is Microchip?

That is a very difficult question to answer. You need to follow him for a full month or two and figure it out for yourself.

https://gab.ai/microchip

https://twitter.com/MicroChunkyChip (account currently suspended)

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 17, 2017 2:37 PM  

Lovekraft September 17, 2017 2:13 PM
the fact that he was attacking moderates



since when has Vox been a moderate?

Blogger rekrapt September 17, 2017 2:39 PM  

The only reason I joined Gab was because of Vox's recommendation. I deleted my account yesterday after watching Gab's meltdown on Vox's Periscope yesterday. I never thought that Twitter would wind up being more professional than Gab even on a bad day. Unreal.

Anonymous Battlefrog September 17, 2017 2:40 PM  

RobertT wrote:I tried Gab, but policy or no policy, it's just not as good as twitter. Death sentence.

I think that is an unfair way to approach these things. I supported Gab even though I knew their experience was nothing like twitter. They don't have even a fraction of Twitter's man power and resources. You can't just start off on top.

The only reason I stopped supporting Gab is because Torba is a petulant child who is surrounded by yes-men.

Blogger Dave September 17, 2017 2:50 PM  

I don't even know why Microchip got involved in this in the first place.

I don't know either, but I do know he couldn't get uninvolved fast enough when he realized criminal charges were a real possibility.

Anonymous Moon Man September 17, 2017 2:55 PM  

Battle Frog, are you sure about the microchip guy? Several of his last few posts are 100% pure Alt Reich.


Microchip · @Microchip
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"The Left hates my guts and wants me dead, and everyone one of you guys is a Nazi, I don't need your votes or support because when the Left comes for me, I'll be murdered instantly, Nazis"

This is the thinking of the #NewRight, they don't think past 2 days and paycheck into the future.

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Microchip · @Microchip
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We are 1.5 months away from go time, and look around you at what's happening. Trump has literally had to station himself Center Left to survive, Bannon had to step down to try to save this thing, and you guys are still causing problems among yourselves.

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Microchip
Microchip · @Microchip
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And the people who will be blamed for the movement's failure are the same ones who didn't listen to reality back 11 months ago. Your reputations will be destroyed.

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Microchip · @Microchip
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if @m, and @Cernovich and @voxday think there is a way out of this when 2018 is lost, they are sorely mistaken, everyone will be so tired, they will want nothing to do with your side movements, nothing at all

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Microchip · @Microchip
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If I were to see @m, and @Cernovich and @voxday and a few others finally just start punching exclusively Left, it would be a start, but I don't think that's possible, we're 11 months into this thing that I warned you about in November 2016, and we're 2 months away from first elections of midterms


Also...I was worried Lemur might be the same guy from MPC, for some reason. I'm skeptical now, since it would be really strange to see MPCers step up to diaper duty for Stormpoopers.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 2:58 PM  

Why?

Because we can never be sure if the back end truncates the password before hashing it. It might turn out that the string actually given to the hash algorithm is "Jasmine gave Raj". The only way the user could know if this is the case, is to remove a few characters from the end of the real password and see if it's accepted.

But when you squeeze maximum entropy into each character, it won't matter. And if you're going to pull it from a keychain ANYWAY (instead of typing it from memory) then no reason not to squeeze that entropy in.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 3:07 PM  

Furry muff. It seemed like an attempt was being made to portray the whole thing as you doing Gab a favour.

I've spent a fair amount of my online time reading Chaos Manor recently, so skim reading the rest at best.

Blogger Lovekraft September 17, 2017 3:08 PM  

@ Mr Mando:

misread me. No, VD is on another level entirely. I was talking about anyone who opposes the "Teh Joos" o gab.

Blogger Retrenched September 17, 2017 3:08 PM  

Sad about the fall of Gab. I'm still holding out hope that they might somehow miraculously turn things around (ie, Torba either snaps out of it or gets replaced) but it isn't looking good at all.

Meme is really funny though.

Anonymous peppermint September 17, 2017 3:09 PM  

MPC is a forum, it's not trying to be the new hashtag conversation place.

The only way the new hashtag conversation place will be viable is if it promises something to overcome the old one's network effect. That is freedom.

If the court rules that Google's ToS are meaningful and Google isn't just protecting the existing players with them, and that despite Google monopolizing software installation Google has no responsibility to make installation of non-malware possible, Gab will be forced to choose to implement moderation or simply exist as a website. Google will then be forced to accept moderated Gab, while Gab will have demonstrated to everyone its commitment to not be like Twitter.

Anyway, the app store model was a bad idea. Long term, if people ever again take user freedom seriously in the mobile space, we need something like Debian's apt to install signed updates for apps from multiple sources.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 17, 2017 3:14 PM  

Instead we are stuck with "8-12-characters including a numeral and a special."
Why?


Because buffer overruns suck. Also what Markku said about truncation. Basically, there has to be some limit on password length, to make sure you can take the input and process it without bugs/exploits. On FreeBSD, for instance, the current max password length for users is 128 characters. That's probably plenty forever, but it wasn't always that long.

Not that long ago, many programmers figured 8 characters was enough, or maybe 16, so that's all they allowed. As concerns about password security increased, it was easier to tell people to use tougher passwords than alter a lot of programs to accept longer ones.

In the 1997 film Batman and Robin, the password on Alfred's computer, which contains all of Batman's secrets, is "Peg". Which is drawn on the picture of his sister-in-law sitting right next to the screen. Now, that's a very bad, stupid movie, but still, serious password security is kind of a recent thing for most people.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 3:16 PM  

If only the design is to take only the first 16 cha, then it's poor design. The hardest password to crack is the longest. Humans can remember very very very long sentences. Enyropy is the explanation for stupidly easy to crack short passwords ? 3?!)56&(6?!

Anonymous Battlefrog September 17, 2017 3:18 PM  

Moon Man wrote:Battle Frog, are you sure about the microchip guy? Several of his last few posts are 100% pure Alt Reich.

I don't follow... How is being annoyed by Cernovich and the "New Right" in any way 100% pure Alt Reich?

They annoy me too. They almost exclusively focus on brand and can't see three inches past their noses. (VD says this nicely by calling them tacticians) Cernovich post-Charlotsville was hysterical and absurd, in my opinion (Exhibit A: Cerno's Antifa erotic fanfic). I just try not to bring it up here because I understand the nature of VD's alliance with them.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 3:23 PM  

It wasn't always that long. It is now. There is no reason, now, not to be telling, and allowing, ppl to just write in long sentences that they won't forget. I'm sure brute force will cease to be useful eventually, but I can't see why ppl shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves against it for now. Most ppl use crap passwords, only because ppl want memorable, and confuse easy to remember for easy to break

Blogger Mercy September 17, 2017 3:25 PM  

SouthRon wrote:
I had no clue Andrew was so feminized.


The very name of his site is feminine. Women gab. Men don't gab.
Gab would be a good name for a Twitter alternative for women and gays.

Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 3:27 PM  

> But unless you're relying on Neanderthals entirely winning and wiping out the other hominids due to wits plus retard strength,

That's Tex Arcane's turtle strategy, dependent on nuclear winter. I'm far more... offensive.

> you're alienating them. Consider indirect approaches.

Already factored in.

Microchip is another adaptive liar.

Blogger Koanic September 17, 2017 3:28 PM  

I wish you guys would stop reducing the entropy and obscurity of your password schemes.

Blogger roughcoat September 17, 2017 3:29 PM  

Presumably because there's a fair amount of legacy code running that was written in about 1992, which nobody wants to touch to try to update it because they don't want to break it.

I don't run into restrictive password schemes much these days. Sometimes they won't let me use spaces, which I find annoying. Most of the time when I do see a somewhat archaic password parameter scheme it's on a bank website. So that's nice.

Anonymous Battlefrog September 17, 2017 3:30 PM  

Mercy wrote:The very name of his site is feminine. Women gab. Men don't gab.

Gab would be a good name for a Twitter alternative for women and gays.


It was right there in front of our faces the whole time. We just couldn't see it.

Anonymous Bobby Farr September 17, 2017 3:30 PM  

33.07? Have people been posting pretending to be you?

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 3:37 PM  

@koanic I apologise profusely

Blogger Blade September 17, 2017 3:37 PM  

It's interesting to remember that even 4chan has moderation. If the largest community of neo-nazis and alt-retards in the world is able to moderate its users and keep everything legal, then so should Gab. If your business model involve aiming to be even worse and more offensive than 4chan, then it will very likely fail.

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 3:54 PM  

Yes, a very long sentence will be possible to remember. However, say you have 20 sites, 10 of which you use very rarely. They have unique passwords. How do you remember what sentence belongs to what site? There is no password scheme so easy that you could keep that number of unique passwords straight in your head. So, if you have to store them locally ANYWAY, then you might as well use the scheme that will work with any stupid shit the back end might do to your password, which you have no way of knowing.

Now as for your KEYCHAIN passwords, yes, use one of those schemes. Because those are the couple of passwords you actually have to memorize.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 4:04 PM  

Battlefrog wrote:I think that is an unfair way to approach these things. I supported Gab even though I knew their experience was nothing like twitter.

Me, too.

I deleted my account today because I now have legitimate reasons to worry I will be attacked because of my connections.

Blogger Matthew September 17, 2017 4:07 PM  

Moon Man wrote:I was worried Lemur might be the same guy from MPC, for some reason. I'm skeptical now, since it would be really strange to see MPCers step up to diaper duty for Stormpoopers.

No, Lemur here is probably Lemur there. And he's not doing diaper duty. He's doing what he thinks is right.

This is why I keep asking if he's a muslim.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 17, 2017 4:23 PM  


Utsav SandujaPRO · @u
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A friendly reminder to everyone...

When referring to Gab's policies on doxing, spamming, etc., these issues fall under our "Community Guidelines" section, not the "Terms of Service" section.

#GabLegal

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 4:26 PM  

VFM #6306 wrote:When referring to Gab's policies on doxing, spamming, etc., these issues fall under our "Community Guidelines" section, not the "Terms of Service" section.

#GabLegal


"You see, this is why they can't have nice things, like access to the Google playstore" --Google Legal

Anonymous Neobali September 17, 2017 4:26 PM  

Facebook successfully replaced Myspace.
Reddit successfully replaced Digg.

8chan will never replace 4chan.
Gab will never replace Twitter.

The key is to offer a better user experience for a wider audience. Currently, Twitter is making the mistake of pandering to the Far Left and alienating everyone else. Gab can step in with a more positive user experience for the alienated majority.

But instead they have chosen to embrace the fringe Alt-Retards at the cost of everyone else.

Nobody enjoys being abused by wannabe-Nazi trolls, spamming photoshopped images of your family being raped. Gab is a more unpleasant version of Twitter. Just like 8chan is a more unpleasant version of 4chan.

This is not a winning strategy. There has to be some sensible moderation. Currently the average normie has no reason to switch from overly safe-space Twitter to overly Nazi/rapey Gab.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 4:27 PM  

It's like they want to lose the lawsuit.

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2017 4:32 PM  

Microchip is still a preening loser. His making nice routine seems to just be a ruse. He's a snake with a God complex (like the original serpent), better not turn your back to him. I mentioned him again today and he flooded my feed with some pretty nasty stuff. He doesn't care about fighting the left, he cares only about his ego.

Anonymous User September 17, 2017 4:46 PM  

This whole thing is like watching a pack of retards fighting over who gets to try to fuck a doorknob. I assure you (((they))) are laughing their asses off at both Vox and Torba. And the master of this world is smiling on you all.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 5:02 PM  

Sneering impartial superiority is not a good look for you. Maybe you should try concerned onlooker instead.

Blogger Esmar Tuek September 17, 2017 5:16 PM  

I'm seriously concerned, I can't sleep. I'm so worried that VD will...I dunno.. I'm sure there is something I could pretend to be worried about...someone let me know

Blogger LP9 September 17, 2017 5:35 PM  

Dave, now Micro simply says he's done nothing wrong at all.

Vox; "There are now at least four counts of Class A Misdemeanors in Texas committed by three Gab users."

Good!

Anonymous Justin Bailey September 17, 2017 5:44 PM  

Gab doesn't allow criminal activity on their site, unless it's against somebody they don't like.

Blogger Mr Traumaboyy September 17, 2017 5:47 PM  

Deleted my account months ago. Opened it when Vox recommended it. When i could get 300 likes for saying the russians hacked my toilet and not get 5 likes for sharing a great article by Karl Denninger, Vox, Roosh ect. I quickly realized the platform was not worth my time.

Blogger James Jones September 17, 2017 6:07 PM  

You'll eventually go away when you realize you've underestimated Vox. Many have come before you - equally arrogant and clueless. They've all gone now.

You really think we love him so much because he's an idiot? We love him for good reason.

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2017 6:13 PM  

" I quickly realized the platform was not worth my time. "

I was just looking for a backup to twitter since I had been shadow banned for writing things master-jack did not like during the Milo dust-up.

All in all, Gab does not seem to be worth it even if I was banned permanently on twitter. I still sub-tweet that bastard about banning Milo every once in a while.

Anonymous Anonymous September 17, 2017 6:45 PM  

Deleted my gab account. It's become a cesspool. Nate is absolutely right, the alt-retards ruin everything.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 September 17, 2017 8:58 PM  

All of this could have been avoided if Torba wasn't a Gamma.

And if you need any proof that he is a Gamma, his response that he was going to "out Alpha" Vox is all the proof you need. Not even a low Delta says that.

Blogger Lazarus September 17, 2017 9:05 PM  

User wrote:This whole thing is like watching a pack of retards fighting over who gets to try to fuck a doorknob.

Every second you spend watching a pack of retards fighting over who gets to fuck a doorknob says something about you.

Taking the time to comment on it.....more damning.

Blogger Lazarus September 17, 2017 9:13 PM  

Are there more neo-Nazis in America than Jews?

White nationalists make up a similar proportion of the population, with 8% of respondents saying they backed white nationalism, compared to 65% who said they opposed it.

Even neo-Nazism appears to enjoy a surprisingly large following, with only four percent of American adults translating to more than 10 million people identifying with neo-Nazi ideology.

If the survey is accurate, self-identified neo-Nazis outnumber Jews by roughly two-to-one in the US, with some six million Americans identifying as Jewish, or about 1.9% of the total population (including children).


Why aren't the alt-Reich winning?

Blogger Sevron September 17, 2017 9:41 PM  

Deleted my Gab account. Had about a thousand followers. Never provided them with any legit information on my account and used a new email address. Thought I was maybe a little paranoid at the time, glad I did that now. What are the odds Torba wouldn't help others dox Vox readers at this point? Or when he starts to get his ass kicked in the Google case?

Blogger Markku September 17, 2017 9:42 PM  

Yep, I had that exact thought, which is why I deleted my account sooner rather than later.

Anonymous Daniel September 17, 2017 9:43 PM  

>Are there more neo-Nazis in America than Jews?
>Why aren't the alt-Reich winning?

Lizardman constant.

http://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/12/noisy-poll-results-and-reptilian-muslim-climatologists-from-mars/

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 17, 2017 9:44 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Why aren't the alt-Reich winning?
Because they're standing there in boots full of their own piss and wondering how to empty them.

Blogger Sevron September 17, 2017 9:50 PM  

I'm a little surprised MPC is shitting on Vox. Their usual stance is detached amusement because they're sooooo superior.

Blogger Parrothead Al September 17, 2017 9:58 PM  

Just deleted Gab account

Blogger Rabbi B September 17, 2017 10:13 PM  

Gab account deleted. They're going to miss me.

Anonymous Rum Raisin September 17, 2017 10:23 PM  

Why aren't the alt-Reich winning?

Because they are lesser demons, mere emanations from Satan's posterior, foul effusions of their master, the lord of lies.

They are but shadows of the greater demons, who know that it is often necessary to cloak their maledicent intent in pleasing shapes and gilded language.

Blogger Lazarus September 17, 2017 10:23 PM  

I WOULD delete my account but I did not get one.

It is the thought that accounts.

Blogger Jack Ward September 17, 2017 10:44 PM  

I can no longer stand with Gab.
Been super busy the last few days and had little time for any blogs, including my favorite, except for brief skimming. How is it possible for one person that had major backing from a powerhouse blog [yes, VD, that's you] manage to blow it all away so quickly over nothing of consequence? Will this Torba person ever recover, professionally from this?

Anonymous Man of the Atom September 17, 2017 10:46 PM  

Jack Ward September 17, 2017 10:44 PM
I can no longer stand with Gab.


*GASP*

Stick a fork in GAB!

Anonymous Northwest Watching Thing September 17, 2017 10:58 PM  

Deleted my account. It had been almost a year since i even used gab, so had to reset password to even do it.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 17, 2017 11:07 PM  

Will this Torba person ever recover, professionally from this?

Spectacular failure isn't necessarily a detriment in Silicon Valley. It may even be better than slow progress with small profits. Did the founders and major investors live well during the life of the project and get out with a good chunk of change? Were they able to generate a lot of buzz and pull in secondary investors to bolster the initial batch? If so, it was a success, and they will have no trouble pulling VC money for their next project.

Anonymous Anonymous Gab User September 17, 2017 11:20 PM  

I feel sorry for Pax Dickinson. The volatility of the Alt-Right world and the blacklisting of big tech has left him seeking a job on Gab.
https://gab.ai/pax/posts/12252387
He always has big ideas. Counterfund seemed like it would be interesting.

Anonymous User September 17, 2017 11:29 PM  

If a mere observer is so stained what does that say about the principals? Yes indeed.

Blogger Beau September 17, 2017 11:49 PM  

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Blogger lowercaseb September 18, 2017 12:05 AM  

Jack Ward wrote:I can no longer stand with Gab.

I was wondering why the Emergency Broadcast System suddenly clicked on my TV and my Phone. I'm glad I bugged out yesterday.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 18, 2017 12:47 AM  

Anonymous Gab User wrote:I feel sorry for Pax Dickinson. The volatility of the Alt-Right world and the blacklisting of big tech has left him seeking a job on Gab.
He always has big ideas. Counterfund seemed like it would be interesting.


Needlessly complex system with no assurance of actually receiving funds, and fees 3x the competition doesn't add up to success in many situations.

Anonymous Quotidian Solecism September 18, 2017 1:23 AM  

And here we go. As I predicted ... though ahead of schedule.


"BREAKING: Gab's domain registrar has given us 5 days to transfer our domain or they will seize it. The free and open web is in danger."

https://twitter.com/getongab/status/909646893516414977

Anonymous Quotidian Solecism September 18, 2017 1:28 AM  

From the letter to Gab:

"Please be advised that Asia Registry's End User Agreement, Terms of Service and Abuse Policy prohibit use of a domain name for an unlawful purpose. Asia Registry is an Australian company, and the website (gab.ai) violates Australian federal and state anti-discrimination laws, which prohibit vilification on the basis of race, religion, or ethnic origin. Asia Registry's Abuse Policy specifically prohibits use of a domain name in a manner that is discriminatory or hateful.

Asia Registry has the right to cancel any domain name which breaches its terms and conditions ... On this basis, Asia Registry invites (sic!) you to transfer your domain name to a different registrar. If you do not do so within 5 days, Asia Registry will cancel your domain name registration."

Blogger Abyssus Invocat September 18, 2017 1:31 AM  

You can find me on Twitter. Same handle @Abyssus. See y'all back there.

Blogger Geoarrge September 18, 2017 1:50 AM  

Huh. Who could have seen that coming?

Blogger Justin Bailey September 18, 2017 2:14 AM  

They had to ban Weev too

https://twitter.com/getongab/status/909645998233755648

It's almost like only moderating your site when you get warnings from your registrar is a poor strategy. It's too bad nobody has been telling Torba that for almost a year.

Blogger Raging Papist September 18, 2017 2:29 AM  

Its amazing how much fire Gab is in. They appear desperate to discover moderation in the face of their registry being seized.

Whats still amazing to me is how many people actually believe that this is Vox's "war on Gab." This is what happens when you combine hard, muh-constitution libertarianism with the Alt-Retard brand. Fantastic fireworks.

Blogger lowercaseb September 18, 2017 2:35 AM  

Quotidian Solecism wrote:"BREAKING: Gab's domain registrar has given us 5 days to transfer our domain or they will seize it. The free and open web is in danger."

This is what happens when John Ward does not stand by you!

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 18, 2017 2:57 AM  

Lazarus September 17, 2017 9:13 PM
Why aren't the alt-Reich winning?



because you spelt alt-Retard improperly.

more Retards don't become more effective or productive, more Retards simply factors the Retardation.



Sevron September 17, 2017 9:50 PM
Their usual stance is detached amusement because they're sooooo superior.



iow, they're playing the same "I'm more Alpha than you will ever be" game that Torba was. birds of a feather, and all that.

you notice how little bearing living by Assertion has in the Real World?

it's almost like you actually need to back your Assertions up with actual Accomplishment once in a while.

Anonymous User September 18, 2017 2:57 AM  

No pro princesses, this is what happens when Obama cedes ICANN control to NGOs and the first amendment stops applying since us gov no longer governs registrars

Blogger Resident Moron™ September 18, 2017 3:02 AM  

Micro is all over Twitter claiming his little drama is all over. Maybe he sobered up? Legal proceedings will do that to you.

It's a shame about Gab; the Kekistani legions had a lot of fun there for a while.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 18, 2017 3:48 AM  

User wrote:No pro princesses, this is what happens when Obama cedes ICANN control to NGOs and the first amendment stops applying since us gov no longer governs registrars
Nothing to do with ICANN. It never got to that level. And it would not have been any different when the US government controlled ICANN. The US has never interfered with internal decisions by other countries registries.
This was entirely a decision by the .ai registrar, and was made according to their policies, in compliance with Australian law.

The policy is right there on their website, and undoubtedly included in any contract signed by Troba or Utsav. They will not maintain your registration if you are in violation of Australian law, which outlaws "Publicly vilifying any person on the basis of race, religion or ethnicity".
Torba and gab knew, or should damn well have known, what the policy was and either complied with it or used another registrar.

But they wanted "gabai." I'll leave it to you to look that up.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 18, 2017 3:57 AM  

What's the odds on Weev intentionally getting himself banned by the registrar? I've been suspicious it was someone in the Anglin Collective that pulled the first stunt with the registrar, and this latest issue doesn't change that thought.

Also, .ai is Anguilla, a British overseas territory.

Pluckiness is great to have, but if you're going to do something insurgent in nature, you better have your backside well covered.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 18, 2017 3:59 AM  

I should have finished up that thought.

.ai is out of Anguilla, but you need a registrar that handles it. Or be your own. That's how Gab is on one based out of Australia.

Anonymous Quotidian Solecism September 18, 2017 4:18 AM  

I guess sexton or beadle weren't available. In any case, Torba didn't handle the job very well.


A gabbai (Hebrew: גבאי‎‎), also known as shamash שמש or warden is a beadle or sexton, a person who assists in the running of synagogue services in some way. The role may be undertaken on a voluntary or paid basis. A shamash (literally "servant") can also mean an assistant to a rabbi (particularly the secretary or personal assistant to a Hassidic Rebbe).

A gabbai might manage some of the financial affairs of the institution, such as collection of contributions and keeping financial records. The administrator of charitable funds might be called the gabbai tzedakah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabbai

Blogger Revelation Means Hope September 18, 2017 4:45 AM  

Canceled my account, passing that along now to others I persuaded to join Gab as well.
Stopped my monthly support payment. Will redeploy some of that to other causes.

Thanks for the heads up on the extra security risk.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 18, 2017 8:26 AM  

this is what happens when Obama cedes ICANN control to NGOs

I've seen no evidence that this has anything to do with ICANN. I said it a couple weeks ago: the going rate for a .AI domain is $80/year. Common TLDs like .COM are $15/year. Torba's strategy might have worked as long as registrars got a couple of whiny complains a year and could safely round-file them. It was doomed when the Left started bombarding them with complaints and including DDOS threats with them. The juice isn't worth the squeezing.

The turnover of ICANN may become a problem, but it's not this problem. I find it amazing that people assume a US-controlled ICANN would automatically enforce an expansive view of the First Amendment in Current_Year anyway. We may not have as much badthink legislation and regulation as the EU, but we're getting there. Does the First Amendment stop leftists from enforcing speech codes and holding kangaroo courts on state-run US campuses?

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