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Friday, September 08, 2017

If movies were reviewed like video games

Miller Jason is branching out:
I thought it was generally accepted if you review films for a living, you do it because you like movies, and therefore have watched a lot of movies in your lifetime and career. Even if you’re not formally educated to analyze and critique them, a lifetime of watching movies is still a pretty valid informal education in the field.

But since we’re throwing all that out of the window, you don’t need to understand the medium you are reviewing I would like to welcome you to my film review section we’re going to be running!

We’re gonna start off with a classic Schindler’s list:

I sat down to Schindler’s List not knowing what to expect. As a guy who mostly watches buddy cop comedies and Disney movies, I wasn’t a huge drama movie aficionado, but I had heard that List was a solid entry in the genre by my friends who watch more drama than I, so I was tentatively excited.

For a movie about such a simple premise, a list, the movie takes a lot of dialogue to get across the point. I couldn’t really follow all the conversations, especially because some of them were in some other language (I guess the director never heard of dubbing?) and I had to read along on the subtitles. 

This makes the movie less visually appealing, and it’s already skirting the boundary with it’s lo-fi black-and-white art style. 3/10.
Actually, I have to confess that I would enjoy reading this sort of movie review. They would be more entertaining than the average movie these days.

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Blogger Ken Prescott September 08, 2017 8:41 AM  

You have a point.

By the way, is it my imagination, or did the latest fecal weather disturbance only get started right after you noticed that the Swastika LARPer leaders are (maybe not so) former Occutards?

Blogger Wanderer September 08, 2017 8:54 AM  

I wish Roosh didn't shut down his alt gaming website Reaxxion and had instead allowed it to grow. I think with the exception of /v pretty much every gaming community online is run by cucks and faggots.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 08, 2017 8:56 AM  

The cool thing is that now I wouldn't feel obligated to make it through the entire movie before I wrote a review in this style:

"Presumably, it just keeps repeating until the end, so, despite a few decent sight gags, I'm forced to give Groundhog Day a 4/10. We've all seen this one before."

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 8:58 AM  

Destiny 2 is out... and this time VD... PC Master Race gets to play too. We literally cancelled school for the week. Or more precisely... we decided that Destiny 2 WAS school for the week.

Because Loot.

Blogger Gordon September 08, 2017 8:58 AM  

I have to remind myself that to someone born in 1990, the Holocaust is as distant an event as trench warfare and Spanish influenza are to me.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 8:59 AM  

Memento is freaking horrible. Seriously. The movie is literally an IQ test. If you were surprised at the end... then you're a dumb dumb.

Blogger Woo September 08, 2017 9:00 AM  

Vox is a weak gamma.

He cant even beat the loser nazis.

Im out of here, +2 SD retards.

Blogger Johnny September 08, 2017 9:09 AM  

Maybe it is me, I have reached my saturation point, I have seen too many, but I can't easily get off on movies any more. Only rarely do I come across one I like.

My tastes run to visual spectacle more than anything. Unless the theme is about cleverness such as a murder mystery, the less clever the better. Screw thinking about it, I just want it to wash over me.

Blogger Johnny September 08, 2017 9:11 AM  

Woo wrote:Vox is a weak gamma.

He cant even beat the loser nazis.


The thing about Nazi larpers is that they are a small minority of exotics and there is no getting rid of them. Best to denounce them and then move on, offering no further attention.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 9:15 AM  

"Best to denounce them and then move on, offering no further attention."

the best option is to simply nuke and pave. Ban, Spam, and Delete. So no trace of them exists.

Blogger MendoScot September 08, 2017 9:15 AM  

So much entertainment to be had here. I think I should be reviewing Women's Products, maybe in the Guardian.

Anonymous Basket of Deplorables September 08, 2017 9:15 AM  

@7 Thank you. We appreciate your departure, if not your contribution while here. Please don't come back.

Blogger VD September 08, 2017 9:19 AM  

We appreciate your departure

If only. Gamma flouncers never stay gone.

Anonymous CarpeOro September 08, 2017 9:24 AM  

I can't remember the last time I cared what a movie reviewer had to say about a movie, since I have found their tastes and mine overlap (at best) around 20% of the time. I'll note that while my tastes aren't everyone's I have a better chance lining up with the audience taste on Rotten Tomatoes than the critics do. Critics appear to have the need to make their opinions "deeper" and more "artistic" than whether they enjoyed a movie or not.

Blogger James Jones September 08, 2017 9:29 AM  

OT, but what do you think to Milo's assertion in his book that he alt-right is dead?

Anonymous Sandy September 08, 2017 9:32 AM  

I have to remind myself that to someone born in 1990, the Holocaust is as distant an event as trench warfare and Spanish influenza are to me.

This is what Vox does not understand when he says all the nazi larping is bad PR. It turns off the oldies of course but to those in their 20s or younger nazis are not the great taboo boogeymen. Their grandparents are not the ww2 generation but the boomers and, in some cases, Xers. Nazis are bad PR to anyone raised among those who were indoctrinated to hate them based on the testimony of people from the ww2 generation.

Its a generation gap that cannot really be breached.


The Force Awakens: Same tired format sold to the audience with a repackaged storyline dressed up in sharper visuals. 3/10. A new direction is needed in the franchise.

Anonymous Lara Mycroft September 08, 2017 9:34 AM  

... and it’s already skirting the boundary with it's [sic] lo-fi black-and-white art style.

* SPOILER ALERT *

It's funny how just one or two things will make you love or hate a film.

Despite its flaws, I enjoyed Rogue One because every main character died ... occasionally in random, non-heroic ways. It was a gutsy call by the producers and writers, and deserving of respect.

Is that opinion less valid because I'm not a "professional" film reviewer?

Blogger Cail Corishev September 08, 2017 9:37 AM  

I used to think maybe I'm just an old man, so newer movies could still be objectively good but not for me. But everyone's seeing it now: Hollywood just can't do story and character anymore, at least not in combination with a large budget and effects and everything else. Even when they're provided with a working story and characters to remake, they manage to make it worse more often than not. When a movie works today, it appears to be a happy accident more than a plan coming together. I think there are a lot of reasons for it, ranging from ideology to foreign marketing, so people looking for one flaw to fix keep coming up short, and it won't get better any time soon.

Video game reviews might be obsolete, unless done very well. Just go to Twitch and watch a few people playing the actual game. That won't tell you a few things like how responsive the controls are, but you can ask the players on the spot.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 9:39 AM  

"OT, but what do you think to Milo's assertion in his book that he alt-right is dead?"

if I may but in here... people who say "alt-right is dead" generally are referring to the name "alt-right". not the movement.

Given that a lot of us that are part of the movement have always had misgivings about the term "alt-right" then its not surprising that there is much debate over it.

MOTW is Alt-West central... and it never describes itself as Alt-Right... only Hard Right. It did that specifically to differentiate itself from the idiot larpers and to signal that the idiot larpers were not welcome.

The map however is not the land. The name is not the movement. The name doesn't really even matter enough to bother debating much to me. The movement is what matters.

Blogger Ostar September 08, 2017 9:39 AM  

"The ideological conformity within Hollywood is not only destroying the greatness that comes from artistic tension, is not only shelving great stories, it is alienating and insulting half the customers."

Said by John Nolte, one of the few actual movie reviewers worth a damn nowadays.

Blogger Erynne September 08, 2017 9:40 AM  

I've been trying to become more cultured by watching a lot of older movies that stood out. Cult classics, Oscar winners, top 100 movies, Stanley Kubrick, etc. I watched The Deer Hunter the other day, 2/10. I get what they were trying to do, but the movie was way too long (3 hours) and, to me, it didn't successfully pull off the character change they were going for. In brief, the movie is about small town Americans changed by the Vietnam war. The war scene was only half an hour or so. It was brutal, but it also felt like actors masturbating their scared shitless acting. None of the characters were likable, one would conclude Americans were assholes if that's the only movie of them they ever watched.

I want to watch these films though since it's most likely most people in my culture have also seen them. I can't have discussions about great books, so at least great movies I can discuss, but the discussions are difficult and don't really go anywhere beyond, "did you like it?" Then you get people like Vox who will respond, "what movie?"

Blogger Salt September 08, 2017 9:42 AM  

He's right. He's not a movie critic.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 9:43 AM  

" I watched The Deer Hunter the other day, 2/10."

Glad to see I'm not the only one that hated that movie.

Blogger Sillon Bono September 08, 2017 9:57 AM  

Nate wrote:" I watched The Deer Hunter the other day, 2/10."

Glad to see I'm not the only one that hated that movie.


I never understood why everybody liked that movie so much.

I guess some movies really are a product of their time and can only be enjoyed at a given point in time for a period of a few years and then become somewhat obsolete.

That is what separates a true classic from a regular movie, a true classic is timeless and enjoyable regardless of when you watch it.

Blogger LES September 08, 2017 10:02 AM  

Just watched "Mogambo" (1953) with Clark Gable, Ava Gardner and Grace Kelly. Alpha male demonstrates game theory in big game country. Includes includes an inference to clitorectomies.

Blogger Sillon Bono September 08, 2017 10:03 AM  

Woo wrote:Vox is a weak gamma.

He cant even beat the loser nazis.

Im out of here, +2 SD retards.


Look you're very boring, why don't you come with something that at least make us laugh?

You come out sad and lost.

Anonymous Athor Pel September 08, 2017 10:05 AM  

Once you've seen enough interviews from people that work in Hollywood it becomes obvious the movies shouldn't be taken seriously. I'm not talking about the people that do the PR, I'm talking about the people that do all the other things, like special effects, make-up, lighting or production design, just not the director/producer/actors/studio execs. The truth seeps in even if they try to avoid mentioning it.

These kinds of reviews are exactly what Hollywood deserves.




"4. Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 8:58 AM
Destiny 2 is out... and this time VD... PC Master Race gets to play too. We literally cancelled school for the week. Or more precisely... we decided that Destiny 2 WAS school for the week.

Because Loot.
"



The play looks like Destiny 1, with loot that looks like it came from WoW. I saw horns on shoulder armor, horns. And some kind of back armor piece that looked like fairy wings.

WTH

But don't pay attention to me, I'm still playing Borderlands 2. And Stellais, lots and lots of Stellaris.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise September 08, 2017 10:08 AM  

My tastes run to visual spectacle more than anything.

I'm exactly the opposite. I'm bored with movies that rely first and foremost on CG and "spectacle." It's too easy.

The heavy reliance on remakes is telling: "We can't generate our own fresh ideas, so let's just steal someone else's fresh idea!"

Classic example? Kong: Skull Island. A pitiful film, despite it's enormous box office.

Coming in 2020: Godzilla Vs. Kong! Oh, joy!

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 10:13 AM  

"The play looks like Destiny 1, with loot that looks like it came from WoW. I saw horns on shoulder armor, horns. And some kind of back armor piece that looked like fairy wings. "

"The Play" is to broad to apply that way. There are huge differences between this and D1. yes.. the controls are the same... but the campaign was way harder this time... and the grind was longer. The rewards at the end were also way more over the top. On top of all that the weapons system has been completely reworked and that changes the play mechanics considerably.

What makes Destiny awesome is the fact that there is so much going on all the time. if you have 10 minutes to play or 2 hours to play... you can always jump on and have a variety of different things you can do. They ramped that up even more in D2. The best thing though is that unexpected things happen. A lot. For example you're running campaign missions with your fire team of 3... but at big points in big missions... suddenly you're there with lots of other players running the same mission.. temporarily helping each other out. little things like that effect the game more than people think. Humans dearly love the "anything could happen" vibe.

Blogger YIH September 08, 2017 10:13 AM  

This makes the movie less visually appealing, and it’s already skirting the boundary with it’s lo-fi black-and-white art style. 3/10.
Nah, that ain't vidya style, even the most craptasitic games (assuming they don't crash... much) get at least a 6/10.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 08, 2017 10:14 AM  

Destiny 2? You mean Diet Warframe?

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 10:16 AM  

"Classic example? Kong: Skull Island. A pitiful film, despite it's enormous box office."

Tard.

Skull Island was awesome. Giant monkey spiking helicopters and eating a Kracken. what more do you want?

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 10:18 AM  

"Destiny 2? You mean Diet Warframe?"

dude please. The warframe thing is the biggest joke ever.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 08, 2017 10:24 AM  

Despite its flaws, I enjoyed Rogue One because every main character died

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, Ran, The Usual Suspects, Beneath the Planet of the Apes, All Quiet on the Western Front, Casino Royale, Dead Man, This is the End, Night of the Living Dead, the Perfect Storm, Fallen, Angel Heart and very nearly The Dirty Dozen all did it far better than Rogue One.

Rogue One is a little better than Easy Rider when it comes to Total Party Kill movies. 3/10

Anonymous basementhomebrewer September 08, 2017 10:26 AM  

@Nate, Picked up a 3lb tomahawk ribeye the other day and debating how to cook it. Thinking of doing a generous cut around the rib into the steak a little bit. Smoking both but pulling the main "prime rib" part at 115 and searing and eating like steak. Then cooking the back rib more like typical beef short ribs. Any opinion or experience cooking a beef back rib? I am a little concerned about not having enough connective tissue for the low and slow.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 08, 2017 10:28 AM  

Oh, a better comparison for Rogue One is the Wild Bunch. They are about on the same level. Rogue One has a better shootout. Wild Bunch has better actors. Neither are great at what they do.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 10:41 AM  

@35

Hrm... Honestly I would just reverse sear the thing. Grill it... indirect heat... on real lump charcoal as far from the head as you can get it. Then when internal is 115... sear it over the coals.

Then just eat the damn thing off the bone like the carnivore God made you.

That's how I would do it. But your plan sounds damn good to.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 10:42 AM  

heat. as far from the heat as you can get it. can't type today.

Blogger Student in Blue September 08, 2017 10:48 AM  

@27. Athor Pel
But don't pay attention to me, I'm still playing Borderlands 2. And Stellais, lots and lots of Stellaris.

A man willing to admit publically he's still playing Memelands 2? Brave. Brave and perhaps dumb.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer September 08, 2017 10:50 AM  

Nate wrote:@35

Hrm... Honestly I would just reverse sear the thing. Grill it... indirect heat... on real lump charcoal as far from the head as you can get it. Then when internal is 115... sear it over the coals.

Then just eat the damn thing off the bone like the carnivore God made you.

That's how I would do it. But your plan sounds damn good to.




When I say "smoke" I am really talking 275ish temp wise away from the heat source so I am approximating a reverse sear with more smoke for the main part.

My issue on trying to pull a beef rib out of the thing is, I am going to have to cut into the steak more than I would like to make it worth while. I may end up just doing a 225F smoke to get a little more smoke flavor then just sear the thing when it hits 115.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 11:23 AM  

" I may end up just doing a 225F smoke to get a little more smoke flavor then just sear the thing when it hits 115."

I don't see how any of this could go wrong.

Anonymous DirkH September 08, 2017 11:32 AM  

When is Schindler 2 coming out? Schindler 1 was bad. All the Jews are played by white actors.

Blogger BassmanCO September 08, 2017 11:41 AM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:Nate wrote:@35

Hrm... Honestly I would just reverse sear the thing. Grill it... indirect heat... on real lump charcoal as far from the head as you can get it. Then when internal is 115... sear it over the coals.

Then just eat the damn thing off the bone like the carnivore God made you.

That's how I would do it. But your plan sounds damn good to.



When I say "smoke" I am really talking 275ish temp wise away from the heat source so I am approximating a reverse sear with more smoke for the main part.

My issue on trying to pull a beef rib out of the thing is, I am going to have to cut into the steak more than I would like to make it worth while. I may end up just doing a 225F smoke to get a little more smoke flavor then just sear the thing when it hits 115.


Dammit, you guys are making me hungry. And I just ate.

Anonymous DirkH September 08, 2017 11:46 AM  

21. Erynne September 08, 2017 9:40 AM
"I watched The Deer Hunter the other day, 2/10. I get what they were trying to do, but the movie was way too long (3 hours) and, to me, it didn't successfully pull off the character change they were going for."

As a non American the message I got from it was: American director says Asians are war criminals and savages and Americans are great even when they're totally crazy. Because they're only crazy because the Asians keep them in half submerged cages. But, when I watched it I was young and impressionable so don't hold it against me. I can't change it at this point.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise September 08, 2017 11:55 AM  

Rogue One had a female protagonist, Jyn Erso, who:

1. wasn't a kung-fu expert,
2. wasn't a munitions specialist,
3. wasn't born with "the force,"
4. wasn't drop-dead attractive, and
5. made mistakes.

Best of all, when she wanted to get a job done, she went out and recruited a bunch of MEN.

Refreshing!

Blogger Erynne September 08, 2017 12:25 PM  

Nah, it wasn't like that at all. But, as you said, you can't change it. They made the enemy appear ridiculously sadistic so the scenes could be shorter, IMO. The characters were definitely crazy before they went overseas, and only got slightly more crazy IMO. The Asians were shown to be at war, and shitty things happen when you're at war, for example, the women who were prostituting themselves for a quick buck. The South Vietnam army even saved one of the 3 main characters, so I'm not sure how that was a depiction of Asians being war criminals and racists.

Anonymous VFM #6306 September 08, 2017 12:49 PM  

Now if it was really like modern game reviews, it would be...

Wonder Woman review:

It took me ten minutes to get a ticket because the interface was with a human. I wanted to go to a movie about machine gun pandas but there weren't any at that forum, so I got Wonder Woman. The popcorn cost 5 dollars and it had a token system for refills that made no sense.

Navigating the pathways just to get into the movie was impossible, and I ended up pirating into a Reese Witherspoon movie that was halfway over.

It sucked.

Wonder Woman: 1/10

Anonymous FP September 08, 2017 2:07 PM  

Its all sequels, prequels, remakes and reboots of remakes. The recent Magnificent Seven remake was ok, for a mindless western larp action movie but why make it? Denzel needed work I guess. They all go in one ear and out the other for me.

Destiny2 is good but I'm gonna have to get the PC version too I think. More friends there likely to play it than ps4. Also, if you want to use a keyboard/mouse with a console, look into the xim4.

Blogger Heian-kyo Dreams September 08, 2017 2:12 PM  

Rogue one had characters we'll never see again and Darth Vader kicking ass.

Darth Vader scene: 7/10 will watch on repeat at a friend's house, but not buy.

Fury Road: 6/10. Works as one long chase scene, attention wandered during character dialogue.

Blogger Resident Moron™ September 08, 2017 2:22 PM  

That review of Schindler's List was funniest because that is precisely the level of games "journalism" we're seeing in game reviews today. Morons talking about things they don't understand and never will.

"journalism"

Meh.

Anonymous Hitler September 08, 2017 2:25 PM  

When is Schindler 2 coming out?

Soon.

Blogger tublecane September 08, 2017 2:51 PM  

"Even if you're not formally educated to analyze and critique them"

Is there such a thing as a formal education in film criticism? I mean, I know they probably pay professors in Ivory Towers to teach it, but I assume they're making up the discipline as they go.

Blogger tublecane September 08, 2017 3:15 PM  

@16-Your generation gap theory is off. Testimony of survivors was important, yes, but except in Jewish and perhaps certain other circles people didn't get it directly. My grandfather, for instance, helped liberate a camp and I never heard word one from him. People know what they know and believe what they believe based on propaganda, and the propaganda is still strong.

The allies made hay while the sun shown during the Nuremberg Trials, but then the Holocaust faded. It didn't start becoming what it now is in earnest until the 60s, a full generation after it happened. Eli Wiesel's Night, for instance, wasn't published in English until 1960. They hadn't even got the story straight by then, by the way. "Holocaust" of course comes from Greek for "burnt offering." In Night the victims are literally mass murdered by fire in a pit. I don't think there are any gas chambers in that book.

The Holocaust tv movie, which was a major introduction to the topic for much of the general American audience to the topic beyond dry history textbook accounts, aired in 1978. Schindler's List won the Best Picture Oscar in '94. The propaganda parade never stopped.

The Holocaust Industry according to your generational interpretation should've been stronger and more lucrative in 1946 than today, but that's almost certainly not true, despite the existence of way more survivors then compared to now. I don't doubt the game works better on Boomers than whatever we calling young people now, but is chronological propinquity the real issue, considering Boomers almost certainly knew more about it than the Silent Generation?

No, the big difference, I think, is that mass media is on the decline. Therefore, less people get the message. No tv miniseries could hope to be as influential as was the Holocaust. That, plus there are diminishing returns to everything, including Holocaust propaganda.

Blogger Tyler Wollmann September 08, 2017 3:16 PM  

I'm still waiting for Skyrim 2: The Search For More Crafting Materials.

Blogger 63worldseries September 08, 2017 3:25 PM  

Johnny Mayonnaise wrote:Rogue One had a female protagonist, Jyn Erso, who:

1. wasn't a kung-fu expert,

2. wasn't a munitions specialist,

3. wasn't born with "the force,"

4. wasn't drop-dead attractive, and

5. made mistakes.

Best of all, when she wanted to get a job done, she went out and recruited a bunch of MEN.

Refreshing!



A+

Blogger tublecane September 08, 2017 3:29 PM  

@44-That was Jane Fonda's reaction, too.

Blogger tublecane September 08, 2017 3:30 PM  

@45-She was also able to knock down fully armored men by hitting them one-handed with a baton. Not a force-baton, I don't think.

They're still failing at physics and women.

Blogger Ben Cohen September 08, 2017 3:31 PM  

The Holocaust is all many Jews have left since 71 percent intermarry. There's nothing left.

Blogger Nate September 08, 2017 4:10 PM  

"I'm still waiting for Skyrim 2: The Search For More Crafting Materials."

and boobs

Blogger Tyler Wollmann September 08, 2017 4:58 PM  

Destiny 2 is really good so far. I just miss my Red Spectre with counterbalance and spray n play.

OpenID Sidehill Dodger September 08, 2017 6:25 PM  

tublecane wrote:The allies made hay while the sun shown during the Nuremberg Trials, but then the Holocaust faded. It didn't start becoming what it now is in earnest until the 60s, a full generation after it happened. Eli Wiesel's Night, for instance, wasn't published in English until 1960. They hadn't even got the story straight by then, by the way. "Holocaust" of course comes from Greek for "burnt offering." In Night the victims are literally mass murdered by fire in a pit. I don't think there are any gas chambers in that book.

The Holocaust tv movie, which was a major introduction to the topic for much of the general American audience to the topic beyond dry history textbook accounts, aired in 1978. Schindler's List won the Best Picture Oscar in '94. The propaganda parade never stopped.

Yes, your observations jibe with mine. The Nüremberg trials were, first and foremost, about trying the German leadership for starting an "aggressive war"--something that had never been a crime before, nor has ever been since. The atrocity aspect was distinctly secondary, and tainted in any case by the presence of the Russians among the victorious powers. The Russians had no moral ground to stand on, being guilty of their own atrocities, and simply blamed the Germans for things like the Katyn massacre, which had been widely exposed as a Russian crime before the end of the war. The complicity of many other peoples in the Jewish "genocide" was also glossed over, since they were either victims (Poland) or victors.

People don't understand that the whole "holocaust" package was a creation of propaganda that started, as you point out, from the 1960s onward. Once the package was put in place, any seriously historical analysis of it became impossible, because in most European countries "denying the Holocaust" became a crime. In the U.S., the Cultural Marxists saw to the ruination of any academic who did try to investigate specific claims, such as the gas chambers. I can't help but suspect that a large amount of financing for this campaign is coming from the Israeli State, though I have no proof.

For what it's worth, I'm not saying that the Germans did not commit enormous crimes against many Jews; I'm saying that the specifics of these crimes deserve historical analysis and debate. I say this because I think it's true, not because I believe it will in any way ameliorate my standing as a "holocaust denier" in the eyes of the True Believers.

OpenID Sidehill Dodger September 08, 2017 7:06 PM  

tublecane wrote: Schindler's List won the Best Picture Oscar in '94. The propaganda parade never stopped.

I feel compelled to give specific mention to Schindler's List, both for the effectiveness of its propaganda and its unintentional humor.

The evil SS concentration commandant who took pot-shots at the inmates from his front porch was ridiculously overdrawn--he would have been quickly canned and tried such a breach of discipline.

But the real howler is that Oskar Schindler was an agent of German Military Intelligence (the Abwehr). He shows up in Warsaw with a briefcase literally stuffed with money and starts a factory that employs Jews. Whenever he gets thrown into a German prison, he's released within 24 hours--the man clearly had a "get out of jail free" card. (You know how this goes: "Here call this number". The commandant of the jail calls, and gets the Abwehr office, who tells him to let Mr. Schindler go at once, as he is part of an official operation.)

It's difficult to understand the purpose of a ceramics factory as an Abwehr operation. Was he supposed to gather intelligence from his Jewish employees about any impending resistance? Or was this really just capitalism on Schindler's part, financed by the rewards for his earlier services on behalf of the Abwehr?

More than likely, Schindler's official activities in Warsaw were simply never recorded. Or he may have been a "sleeper".

His previous exploits included preparing the way for the faked attack by "Polish" troops on a German radio station; this attacak was then used by Hitler as a pretext for the invasion of Poland. The marauding "Poles" were in fact German concentration camp inmates dressed up in Polish uniforms. (Needless to say, they did not survive the "attack"). Who provided the Polish uniforms? Why it was the resourceful Herr Oskar Schindler.

I'd like to believe that, when confronted with the suffering of his Jewish employees, he did truly develop compassion for them, and used his resources to spare them--something he did not have to do. But my cynical half says that he did it to provide himself yet another "get out of jail free" card--this time good for avoiding war crimes trials by the allies.

But complex stories doe not make good propaganda, so Spielberg pared away those layers of the truth that did not serve his purpose, and built up the ones that did serve his narrative.

Blogger tublecane September 09, 2017 1:58 AM  

@62-My memory is fuzzy l, but I think the movie portrayed his position in Nazi society, his buddy-buddy relationship with powerful friends, and all that was a result of bribes and his being a gregarious, fun-loving guy everyone wanted to be around.

I don't remember him showing up with money in the beginning. Not to say that wasn't portrayed. The way I remember it, he was on a losing streak and left his wife to become a war profiteer. But he didn't have the capital to start a business so he exploited rich Jews in the Ghetto, who could somehow give him money in exchange for real goods which they could use to barter.

The movie tried to show that he went from basically a conman to a slavemaater, then grew a conscience and threw his wealth away to save his slaves. But they probably could have told his backstory better, and did a subtler job of portraying his conversion.

OpenID tonsplace September 09, 2017 6:55 AM  

Great comments Sidehill.

.........

Is someone trying to imply roosh isn't a cuck/ faggot? Almost everything I have read from "him" has always reeked of butt sore beta

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