Vox Popoli: NFL Week Three

Not a lot to say, except I'm not watching this week. The players understand this is about the cultural war. So does the President. I'm not sure what percentage of the NFL-watching public does, but it does appear to be statistically significant if Twitter is any guide.

This sort of calculated and specific disrespect is not incidental. It is intentional. Apparently all the Steelers but one boycotted the anthem. Yes, it's just symbolism, but symbolism matters. The Right used to understand this. Bud Grant's Vikings used to practice standing for the national anthem.

American football stars drop to their knees during national anthem at Wembley in protest defying Donald Trump after he said sportsman who 'disrespect America' should be SACKED. Players from Jacksonville Jaguars and the Baltimore Ravens dropped to their knees as national anthem played. No players were kneeling during the playing of 'God Save The Queen', which followed the US national anthem.

Regardless, discuss either the protests or the weekend action, as you see fit.

How awesome would it be if Steelers owner Art Rooney released his entire team tomorrow, except for Alejandro Villanueva? Talk about making a statement! They could go winless for the next three years, and they'd still wind up ahead on the merchandise sales alone.

Skol Vikings! I am reliably informed that Minnesota Vikings are the only team to not have a single player kneel for the anthem thus far. The legacy of Bud Grant remains strong.

Labels: politics, sports

205 Comments:

TontoBubbaGoldstein September 24, 2017 1:23 PM: I, for one hope the [offensively named] Washington Redskins go down in an epic defeat. Also would love for DW4 and the Texans to take that team that flaunts the oppressive red, white and blue colors, behind the woodshed and beat them sillier than the "Tuck Rule".
Nick September 24, 2017 1:23 PM: The great clarification under the God Emperor continues. Day by day more enemies of the American people are revealed. This makes it really easy, I already stopped watching the 49ers and all NFL games, will now stop watching the Warriors and the NBA, MLB is next to be dropped. Though Trump may be hobbled by Congress, he's making the most of the bully pulpit, what he's doing is heroic.
The Original Arrogant 100 Million Dollar Offense September 24, 2017 1:25 PM: I want a refund.
Causal Lurker September 24, 2017 1:31 PM: Time for some wind sprints, but send them on an upper deck gauntlet. Run by the seats where guys really saved and cut corners for those tickets. Worse than any receiver drill. Now, repeat until dark. "Welcome to the real NFL, snowflakes!
SaltyDonnie September 24, 2017 1:32 PM: I all for these guys having free speech. ON THEIR OWN TIME, on their own property, Facebook pages, Twitters, etc.

This is about using their employer's forum to air their own grievances. And their grievance is against the USA.

So Tomlin is gonna keep them ALL hiding in the locker room? What about the players that DO want to stand for the anthem/flag? Can they tell him to piss off? Does their free speech count?

What does Villaneuva think about this? Apparently he said "no thank you" and went out to stand for the flag. Good for him.

Since this all started because Kaperdick attributed an American flag to police brutality, why don't the players go over to the on duty police officers at Heinz Field providing security and spit on them? Why insult the flag, which is so much more than just about police? The NFL would just LOVE those optics.

So Big Ben is a big supporter of the police, and pays for K9s for various departments. What does he think about this? Since we're all about free speech, is he allowed to say what he thinks on the field? How much ya wanna bet this is his final season?

Can players now tell the NFL to piss off about wearing hot pink all of October? Is that how this "free speech on your employers time" thing works?"
Rick September 24, 2017 1:34 PM: I see American players are now kneeling for the anthem on foreign soil.
http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2017/09/24/ravens-jaguars-anthem-kneel/

I don't like it when they do it here, but in another country? No. Those ungrateful n*****s can hop on a plane to Kenya for all I care.
LP9 September 24, 2017 1:34 PM: Let the men and women enjoy what we've been waiting for; Football Season! Par-Tay.
VFM #6306 September 24, 2017 1:40 PM: National Football League means Nationalist Football League, and everyone knew this until Goodell and his pinkbreasts infiltrated.
YIH September 24, 2017 1:41 PM: Well, I already covered that, so to move on...
I think it would be kinda neat to have a permanent NFL team in London, but keep the Jaguars name, logo and design. It's one of the few I'll watch this year.
That said, Yahoo! did pretty good with it, it looks they dropped the frame rate to 15fps (one live frame, one repeated frame) to keep the video quality good (no blurring, no pixellation) with the tradeoff being a slight jitter all the time. But it also allowed fast movement, on a long pass or run (and there were some) it didn't look like the runner jerked from yard to yard.
Not quite as good as FOX's Super Bowl online ''telecast'' but a lot better than last year where Yahoo! simply glommed onto the CBS feed.
The game itself showed that the Ravens got that 2-0 from beating the Clowns and the Bungles.
And of course, old rivals meet again...
Although, back then, the Bucs were usually roadkill for the Vikes.
fop September 24, 2017 1:42 PM: Beautiful day for golf.
LonestarWhacko September 24, 2017 1:42 PM: Well, it will take the NFL a while to die. You see, the Average White guy buying tickets and such will just quit. Not with a bang, but with disgust. CTE is going to finish it off.

I quit watching some years ago. Couldn't see supporting Black thugs. Interesting times are ahead.
Otto Lamp September 24, 2017 1:43 PM: If you want quick results, go after their advertisers--specifically Anheuser-Busch.

AB is one of the NFL's biggest advertisers. Switching off their product is easy and the lower sales numbers will show up QUICKLY. AB will pressure the NFL to get this fixed.

Turning of the TV in my case would have no effect (as I watch it over the air). Moreover, the NFL has been known to fudge, lie, and rationalize their viewership numbers as having nothing to do with the player's actions (as they did last year).

The Beer sales numbers can't be rationalized away.
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 1:46 PM: I think all beer companies advertise during NFL games
cheddarman September 24, 2017 1:46 PM: dumb asses (black players and NFL front office management) are going to kill their goose that lays the golden eggs.
David September 24, 2017 1:52 PM: @cheddarman

If only there was a book coming out that addessed that sort of behavior...
Matt September 24, 2017 1:52 PM: When the black idiots are broke 2 years after retirement, they can look back and feel pride in knowing they kneeled in protest against the nation that gave them all that they had.
Jaciii September 24, 2017 1:53 PM: If Africans could do math.......
Justin September 24, 2017 1:57 PM: Oh, wow. I'm not a big sports fan, but I am a big anti-racism fan, soooooo...

You don't understand why African American males are protesting? Like seriously, AYFKM???!? The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal? This is NOT normal.

Capitalism forces young African American men to become Bloodsport gladiators or drug dealers or hip hop artists, denying their intelectual potential as scientists and senators and computer programmers, but you freak out when they take a knee in protest?

Have you even read Ta-Nehisi Coates? He proves that the "whiteness" you cling to isn't even real:

"But race is the child of racism, not the father. And the process of naming “the people” has never been a matter of genealogy and physiognomy so much as one of hierarchy. Difference in hue and hair is old. But the belief in the preeminence of hue and hair, the notion that these factors can correctly organize a society and that they signify deeper attributes, which are indelible—this is the new idea at the heart of these new people who have been brought up hopelessly, tragically, deceitfully, to believe that they are white."

Black Lives Matters, bigots! Educate before-you-hate. 8-)
YIH September 24, 2017 1:57 PM: SaltyDonnie wrote:I all for these guys having free speech. ON THEIR OWN TIME, on their own property, Facebook pages, Twitters, etc.

This is about using their employer's forum to air their own grievances. And their grievance is against the USA.

So Tomlin is gonna keep them ALL hiding in the locker room? What about the players that DO want to stand for the anthem/flag? Can they tell him to piss off? Does their free speech count?

What does Villaneuva think about this? Apparently he said "no thank you" and went out to stand for the flag. Good for him.

Since this all started because Kaperdick attributed an American flag to police brutality, why don't the players go over to the on duty police officers at Heinz Field providing security and spit on them? Why insult the flag, which is so much more than just about police? The NFL would just LOVE those optics.

So Big Ben is a big supporter of the police, and pays for K9s for various departments. What does he think about this? Since we're all about free speech, is he allowed to say what he thinks on the field? How much ya wanna bet this is his final season?

Can players now tell the NFL to piss off about wearing hot pink all of October? Is that how this "free speech on your employers time" thing works?"
If you work for Disney and wear a little rainbow flag pin it's not likely they'll fire you. If the team owner ''shows solidarity'' with his employees...
Only Salvidor Dali could get away with that mustache.
RevDanTheMan September 24, 2017 1:58 PM: Three wins for the God Emperor: 1) Frothing and unifying his base, 2) Getting something AMAZING done while the entirety of the public is focused on the shiny object, 3) Getting his revenge on the NFL for what they did to him and the USFL.
User September 24, 2017 1:58 PM: Imagine if American men all spent the time they waste watching sports playing them instead
Casey September 24, 2017 2:00 PM: Negros have always destroyed everything where they've held a majority. Why should sports be any different?
YIH September 24, 2017 2:03 PM: Josh (the sexiest thing here) wrote:I think all beer companies advertise during NFL games
Yep, always have. I was surprised to see an ad for Crown Royal right after kickoff. No, liquor ads were never banned, it's under the same rule as beer and wine, it can't be shown being drank. It's just rare.
a deplorable rubberducky September 24, 2017 2:12 PM: Well the Colts brought out a huge American flag that covered the field. Then they a white and a black sing the anthem as a duet, to symbolize unity.

And the players knelt there disrespecting all of it. The flag, the anthem, the unity singers.

Tonight the league is running an emergency prime time as telling everybody what a force of unity, not division, they are.

Yes, the guys who are intentionally goading you by pissing on your flag and anthem and (as above) calling you a stupid bigot, are out to tell you now that they are a force for unity, not division.

I would love to blame the concussions for this incredible absurdity, but that's not the problem. This is the maddening shamelessness so common everywhere with SJWs.
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 2:15 PM: Imagine if American men all spent the time they waste watching sports playing them instead

Imagine if you had ever talked to a girl
YIH September 24, 2017 2:16 PM: RevDanTheMan wrote:Three wins for the God Emperor: 1) Frothing and unifying his base, 2) Getting something AMAZING done while the entirety of the public is focused on the shiny object, 3) Getting his revenge on the NFL for what they did to him and the USFL.
No, you are mistaken, he destroyed the USFL when it had it's chance to survive and prosper.
The Chortling September 24, 2017 2:20 PM: The NFL is dead to me.
Bobo #117 September 24, 2017 2:20 PM: You bigots need to leave the niggers alone...
KBuff September 24, 2017 2:22 PM: I watched the anthem before the Broncos game. There must have been over half their players taking a knee, at least as far as I could tell. That's when I turned it off.
Anonymous September 24, 2017 2:26 PM: Some moron wrote "You don't understand why African American males are protesting? Like seriously, AYFKM???!? The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal? This is NOT normal."

In Chicago the blacks are killing each other in far greater numbers than are being killed nationwide by cops. No one seems to give a damn about those black lives. I wonder why.

Cops are killing whites as well as blacks nationwide but no one cares about the white deaths. I wonder why. If blacks were not dangerous thugs who breaks laws in great proportion then perhaps they would not find themselves in the gun-sights of cops so often.
YIH September 24, 2017 2:27 PM: KBuff wrote:I watched the anthem before the Broncos game. There must have been over half their players taking a knee, at least as far as I could tell. That's when I turned it off.
KBuff wrote:I watched the anthem before the Broncos game. There must have been over half their players taking a knee, at least as far as I could tell. That's when I turned it off."
Let's wait and see what happens in Minneapolis...
Ceasar September 24, 2017 2:33 PM: Same here...not watching football today and very likely for rest of season. I don't hold the players at fault since it would like holding a 3 year old accountable. I do hold the owners (supposed adults) responsible for not nipping this in the bud when it started last year. I will not give the NFL any money, whether its direct purchasing or my viewing eyeballs. I can get my football fix with college football until the liberals destroy that too.
Deadlocked September 24, 2017 2:41 PM: I'm not sure, but Trump's sports-related comments over the last few days might end up hurting him (and related movements) more than helping. Before this, the anthem protests in the NFL were pretty clearly connected to BLM or the like, and didn't go over well with lots of fans.

Now that Trump has gotten involved, this could go in two separate directions:

1) The "great clarification" that Nick mentioned above moves forward. The G-E's 4D chess encourages his base and sows disarray amongst his opponents.

2) The narrative changes, and the protests become anti-Trump. Or worse - they become anti-Trump but focus on his criticism of "free speech". Momentum shifts as Trump's high disapproval #s feed into the protests.

I think Trump was just voicing the opinion that many of us have (when they're on the field, the players should just shut up and play). The thing is, he's not just "Trump" - he's "President Trump". Whatever he says has the implicit force of the government behind it (even when that's not true).

Because of this, I think #2 is more likely. A lot of people won't see this as a man expressing his opinion - they'll see it as the government attacking free speech. And they won't like that one bit.
exfarmkid September 24, 2017 2:51 PM: 18. Justin

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!! You are hilarious!
YIH September 24, 2017 2:51 PM: Speaking of MN, too bad they ain't playing in their ''throwback'' uniforms. Early in the 3rd, 28-3. At least the new stadium has plenty of natural light in a daytime game.
Steve September 24, 2017 2:52 PM: IN HIS TERRIFYING, RACIST SUPPORT OF AMERICAN PATRIOTISM, DRUMPH HAS GONE TO FAR THIS TIME!!!
Deadlocked September 24, 2017 2:55 PM: @YIH: Early in the 3rd, 28-3.

That's a dangerous lead to have...right, Nate? :)
Bubba September 24, 2017 2:55 PM: Lets have some REAL fun!

Scan the stadium during the national anthem and "kiss cam" all the black faces.

Perforce they must either be (1) standing [they are Uncle Toms], or (2) sitting [they are BLM/Antifa].

As the old UMW song goes, "Which side are you on, boys? Which side are you on?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Which_Side_Are_You_On%3F
Johnny Mayonnaise September 24, 2017 2:56 PM: My wife and I made the decision eight years ago never to buy another liberal newspaper. Five years ago we quit going to movies. Two years ago we stopped supporting local theatre. This year we will not watch one second of NFL football.

Any NFL player who takes a knee is a moron. (Or perhaps the CTE is manifesting.)
Ransom Smith September 24, 2017 2:57 PM: I'm not sure, but Trump's sports-related comments over the last few days might end up hurting him (and related movements) more than helping.
I stopped reading right there.
Johnny September 24, 2017 2:59 PM: Justin wrote:You don't understand why African American males are protesting? Like seriously, AYFKM???!? The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal?

The body count for Chicago are unusually easy to get. Do a search with Hey Jackass Chicago 2017. Generally for every 2 blacks killed by cops, around 98 are killed by other civilians. Hey Justin! That is 2 by cop, 98 by other civilians, most of them fellow blacks!
Elocutioner September 24, 2017 3:00 PM: This is really going to hurt Trump, he'll never win re-election now that the left is openly trashing symbols of our country and showing that their patriotism is synonymous with their politics.
Johnny September 24, 2017 3:01 PM: Ransom Smith wrote:I'm not sure, but Trump's sports-related comments over the last few days might end up hurting him...

Or maybe he gets stronger. Ya never know, but so far his record has been impressive.
Johnny Mayonnaise September 24, 2017 3:02 PM: @32 Caesar: I don't hold the players at fault since it would like holding a 3 year old accountable. I do hold the owners (supposed adults) responsible for not nipping this in the bud when it started last year.

Stefan Molyneux says the same thing about illegal immigrants. Don't blame the illegal; blame the people who allow them in.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 3:04 PM: @33
I'm not sure, but Trump's sports-related comments over the last few days might end up hurting him

Yeah, there's no way he'll get the nomination now.
Brick Hardslab September 24, 2017 3:04 PM: There's more guys struck by lightning than unarmed guys not committing crimes killed by police.

It's not about black lives it's saying I'm on team, 'X'. We've established team X is pro-crime, has no value for human lives, can't tell the truth if it fell into it and hates America.

Okay, you've picked your team. Now I'm picking mine.
Snidely Whiplash September 24, 2017 3:06 PM: denying their intelectual potential as scientists and senators and computer programmers...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
James Dixon September 24, 2017 3:08 PM: Not being able to get anything other than DirectTV/Dish (both of which start at $50/month) where we live has always made the decision not to watch an easy one. Back when we had the option of getting C-band or DirectTV for about $25/month it was a bit harder.
Brick Hardslab September 24, 2017 3:08 PM: And my wife who is a life long football fan refuses to watch this year. She'd rather move stuff in the garage. On football Sunday. If they've lost her only the zombies are left.
Dave September 24, 2017 3:18 PM: C'mon which one of you is justin? It's too pitch-perfect to even begin to take seriously; like when Steve writes SF&F SJW-style.
TD September 24, 2017 3:22 PM: Baltimore forget to get off its knees after the Anthem. Then I had the Jets or the Giants as my home teams. Not much to watch anyway.

Players take the knee for a tweet, but haven't said a thing about the afflictions that really hurt Americans. Protests have degraded the product from a nice distraction to an annoying one.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 3:26 PM: @51 TD
Protests have degraded the product from a nice distraction to an annoying one.

Trump has just made that obvious to normal people and triggered the annoying ones in the NFL to be even more annoying.
YIH September 24, 2017 3:28 PM: Johnny wrote:Ransom Smith wrote:I'm not sure, but Trump's sports-related comments over the last few days might end up hurting him...

Or maybe he gets stronger. Ya never know, but so far his record has been impressive.

I think he should end the invitation to the White House.
http://deadline.com/2017/09/golden-state-warriors-trumps-white-house-invitation-1202175629/
But that must apply to Super Bowl winners, even if the Patriots repeat.
No World Series winners in the WHITE House.
SN September 24, 2017 3:33 PM: Justin is trolling guys. I know, Poe's Law and all that.
Stilicho September 24, 2017 3:34 PM: Villanueva: that's how a man acts. Ten bucks says his becomes one of the most popular jerseys overnight.
Johnny Mayonnaise September 24, 2017 3:34 PM: @Johnny: Generally for every 2 blacks killed by cops ...

And most of those were unquestioningly justified.

By the way, Johnny: Out of respect, I'm dropping my first name, and will henceforth be known only as "Mayonnaise."

"Johnny" is all yours, my friend!
Quilp September 24, 2017 3:35 PM: If I want Politics, I want Vox Day, Not Solomon Wilcots, Bob "pinkeye" Costas, or Even Joe Buck.
All this amounts to is a protest that some Americans voted in a manner the snowflakes don't like, therefore America sucks, or something.

Whatever, lets do this culture war thing. They took the NFL from me, I have nothing left to lose.
krymneth September 24, 2017 3:35 PM: Bobo, "leaving them alone" is exactly the plan. This is leaving them alone. This is what it looks like.
Mr.MantraMan September 24, 2017 3:40 PM: Leftist political theatre is always hapless shitbaggery this time a GOP president did not play nursemaid
Chrome Dynamo September 24, 2017 3:50 PM: Free speech? What do you think would happen if a player had a Confederate flag shirt on during warmups?
Ceasar September 24, 2017 3:54 PM: Whats funny is all the hostage video footage on display. How many players (white) are "voluntarily" showing support for their teammates (black). "This isn't about disrespecting white America and its tradition!, See I got a cracker right here next to me so there!"

This has always been about the "resistance" aka Obama grass roots organization to take down Trump. All the black athletes are being asked to support the greatest POTUS of all time Obama and his efforts against the racist Trump who is undoing everything Obama accomplished.

I don't think its coincidence that Trump's speech aligns with NFL players requesting the whole month of November to be "activist promotion" month. November? Huh, oh wait that's when most election voting happens. This is an attempt to use the NFL media platform as a Obama/Dem brainwashing platform right at election time. And the NFL team owners are playing along. Trump knows this and is given notice he will take an Axe to that platform unless the owners start acting like the adults in the room.
SemiSpook37 September 24, 2017 3:56 PM: Vox, the Steelers didn't boycott; they were told to stay in the locker room by Tomlin. Villanueva (a West Point grad) was the only one that defied that request, and understandably so. Personally, I think it's a better look for the Steelers that they were mostly out of sight for this, because that way, people don't have to pick and choose favorites on the roster for how their views reflect their own.

If you want some good entertainment because of this, check out the reactions of the Baltimore faithful after that little display in London this morning. Ratbird fans are losing their collective minds. Then again, what do you expect from a group of fans who openly support a bunch of criminals?

Someone upthread made a good point: part of this is due to the 30 year feud between the NFL front office and President Trump. Yeah, Trump was able to win the argument, but the jury's $1 damage award was a definite middle finger to him. If you ever saw the ESPN film "Small Potatoes", he's never been able to get over that whole situation.

And even with his comments, Trump's not wrong. Most people watch these games to get away from political crap, not be inundated with it. I could care less why someone sits, stands, kneels, etc. for the anthem. It's not like they show it for most games outside of the Thursday, Sunday, and Monday night games, anyway.
mgh September 24, 2017 4:08 PM: It is a good time to end the idiocy of the winners of professional leagues going to the White House. Save it for the World Little League Champs, college sports champs. Tom Brady doesn't need 5 visits.
Ostar September 24, 2017 4:09 PM: Otto Lamp wrote:If you want quick results, go after their advertisers--specifically Anheuser-Busch.

AB is one of the NFL's biggest advertisers. Switching off their product is easy and the lower sales numbers will show up QUICKLY. AB will pressure the NFL to get this fixed.

Possibly, since corporate beer sales have fallen about 50% in the last decade, being mostly replaced by craft beer purchases. The big beer companies don't have near the profits they used to and are already running scared.
Dave September 24, 2017 4:14 PM: All in all might be a shrewd move by Tomlin to force the NFL to address the issue. Surely the NFL doesn't like the optics of the entire team-1 avoiding the National Anthem. But Tomlin can say for the sake of team unity he doesn't want to force his players to publicly take one side or the other.
Pax_Romana September 24, 2017 4:23 PM: Seahawks and Titans stayed in their locker room, too. NFL won't be getting my money for a while.
Heian-kyo Dreams September 24, 2017 4:24 PM: Some of the Chiefs are protesting as well. That probably explains why there was no Chiefs tshirts at mass this morning.
fop September 24, 2017 4:24 PM: Peak ridiculous = Michael Oher standing with Kaepernick.
kh September 24, 2017 4:27 PM: Wonder if they have thought about the symbolism of kneeling. That has historically implied submission.
JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 4:27 PM: A thread about the NFL games and look what the main topic is. Not games but sideline anrics. Not a good omen.
The Texans lost but, if their game indicates the direction in their playing improvement, it is good.
JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 4:28 PM: Oh yeaj. And I am not even an football fan.
tc September 24, 2017 4:28 PM: That is it?

All it gonna take is to take away the circuses?

We have not changed a bit.
Have not evolved an iota.

There is your evolution theory in a nutshell.

What worked on the mob two millenia ago works just fine and dandy in the age of the innernets.

Fuckin luuve it!!!
Am in awe. Extatic!

The Cherry Blossom Emperor broke the empire with a simple fraze:

Get that sonofabitch off the field and walk out on them kneeling sonofabithes.

Who the fuck they think, that they are?

Yes, ladies, itz on.

In this here game Your uniform is your skin.

Those are the rules.

I did not make it so.
I do not like it.
Nothing I can do about it.

I just happened to b dropped on this field of dream(er)s...

M.A.W.A.
Jack Amok September 24, 2017 4:31 PM: USAA is a big sponser of the NFL. They specialize in selling insurance to veterans. Their customer base probably isn't on board with the protest.

But it's just the death rattle of the league starting early. CTEs will eventually kill the game because parents will stop letting their kids play. For now, the NFL - even before the protests - is doing everything it can to make the games unwatchable. In Detroit, the Lions scored the winning touchdown with 8 seconds left against Atlanta.

But five minutes later, the replay office overrulled, said the receiver was out of bounds on the 1, then declared there should be a 10 second runoff, so game over, Detroit loses.

It's the kind of low-quality product that makes it easy to walk away from the NFL. It's like Kaepernik writ large - not good enough to justify the PITA factor.
JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 4:31 PM: Why even have the anthem at every freaking game? Save it for opening season games and the superbowl.
If Nazi symbolism like the torch at the olympics....
Godfrey September 24, 2017 4:36 PM: If they're where doing this in protest of Black Genocide (i.e. Black abortions), it wouldn't last a week.
Godfrey September 24, 2017 4:37 PM: If they were doing this in protest of the never ending wars (or specifically the constant war threats against Russia), it wouldn't last a week.
Hezekiah Garrett September 24, 2017 4:38 PM: I been not watching the NFL for a long time, welcome y'all.

Now, about football, Alabama on Vandy was about as satisfying a lopsided display as I ever have seen since the election.
Godfrey September 24, 2017 4:40 PM: They were doing this in protest of any number of Globalist supported causes, it wouldn't last a week.

The NFL would shut it down.

Fuck the NFL.
Salt September 24, 2017 4:42 PM: Pittsburgh's spineless. Oh, well. Ain't no Steel there now anyways.
JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 4:44 PM: Yep
BBGKB September 24, 2017 4:56 PM: Imagine if American men all spent the time they waste watching sports playing them instead

Imagine if they built flying cars in their garage with their free time.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4902894/New-400-online-course-teaches-build-flying-cars.html
Charlottesvillain September 24, 2017 5:03 PM: 2% of the population. 1/3 of NFL owners.
gichan September 24, 2017 5:11 PM: Great meme. The budweiser clydesdales would never take a knee
James September 24, 2017 5:25 PM: Justin wrote:Oh, wow. I'm not a big sports fan, but I am a big anti-racism fan, soooooo...

You don't understand why African American males are protesting? Like seriously, AYFKM???!? The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal? This is NOT normal.

Capitalism forces young African American men to become Bloodsport gladiators or drug dealers or hip hop artists, denying their intelectual potential as scientists and senators and computer programmers, but you freak out when they take a knee in protest?

Have you even read Ta-Nehisi Coates? He proves that the "whiteness" you cling to isn't even real:

"But race is the child of racism, not the father. And the process of naming “the people” has never been a matter of genealogy and physiognomy so much as one of hierarchy. Difference in hue and hair is old. But the belief in the preeminence of hue and hair, the notion that these factors can correctly organize a society and that they signify deeper attributes, which are indelible—this is the new idea at the heart of these new people who have been brought up hopelessly, tragically, deceitfully, to believe that they are white."

Black Lives Matters, bigots! Educate before-you-hate. 8-)

This may be the reappearance of that Tiny Dick..... I mean Tiny Duck. He usually promotes some negro author for you to read and become educamated.
Looking Glass September 24, 2017 5:32 PM: This was not the week for the ATL vs DET finish. That's brutal. I also don't think there was enough to overturn the call.
polarbearballs September 24, 2017 5:37 PM: ALL "institutions" of the legacy United States (the concept of "America" as a whole) are in their death throes from colleges to professional sports. Most institutions will morph into something new and different for new and different demographics--for example the shift in grown men watching MMA/BJJ and soccer-futbol (vs. boxing and Football) or academically into trade schools (again), or entrepreneurship (still) will be full of other non-white, yet non-black participants as well.

My theory is that as far as a holding pattern this will be good. Other races hate blacks too and have no interest in giving in to their demands. Only whites are uniquely held hostage by blackThink/blackLogic. Meanwhile, as whites are increasingly lowered in numbers and importance, this will HELP young white men design their own unique path-NOT borne of legacy per se. Even if that legacy--say, "Yale" or "Medical School" or "Football like apple pie" was once created by white men, and fostered by white men.

In other words, whites need to STOP being a majority, at least as perceived, and STOP being in charge of things, as perceived, and just become another group with self-interests. This NFL thing is big only because it was once a legacy sport to this nation (just as baseball before it), and represented the personal aspects of American culture--hard hitting, teamwork, short bursts of individual achievement, come-from-behinds, pretty cheerleaders, mean coaches (bosses!). The white man's fetish with black men running a ball around is simply a cultural artifact of an earlier fetish with the American attributes of football--all of which have died in our current Year.

Football will go the way of boxing and baseball, and new things like Rugby, no pads, Aussie rules, soccer, Bjj, MMA and other things will replace it.
centexguy September 24, 2017 5:39 PM: Scott Adams made a couple of interesting points today in his Periscope. First Trump tweeted players don't hit as hard as they used too. Then he put himself in the middle of the controversy of players kneeling during the national anthem. By doing so it appears those protesting Trump suffer from brain damage (thanks to concussions) and they are kneeling before him (ala King of Thrones).

Trump is basically the master of turning any situation into his favor. For Trump it seems policy is taking a back seat to the cultural war. He's pissing off the left because he's using their playbook against them and he's pissing of the cucks because now they have to stand up and pick a side.
Charlottesvillain September 24, 2017 5:44 PM: "He's pissing off the left because he's using their playbook against them and he's pissing of the cucks because now they have to stand up and pick a side."

Anyone else amused watching Leftist/feminist/numale types try their best in a doomed and pained effort to support the wife-beating/over-the-top macho/athletic/corporate NFL, in response to all this?
tc September 24, 2017 5:46 PM: NFL (((Owners))):
Jim Irsay - Indianapolis Colts
Zygi Wolf - Minnesota Vikings
Board of Directors - Green Bay Packers
Randy Lerner - Cleveland Browns
Daniel Snyder - Washington Redskins
Jeffery Lurie - Philadelphia Eagles
Stephen Ross - Miami Dolphins
Robert Kraft - New England Patriots
Arthur Blank - Atlanta Falcons
Malcolm Glazer - Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Al Davis - Oakland Raiders
Chip Rosenbloom - St. Louis Rams
Steve Tisch - 50% of NY Giants

Out of 32 teams.
2% of the population.
Those are the optix.
And that is only the national fellon league...

Any other questions?
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 6:06 PM: The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal?

If by "literally," you mean "figuratively," and by "figuratively," you mean "in the scary fantasy world Shaun King tells me about."

We know why they're kneeling. They've told us why. That's not the question. Try to keep up.
Bobby Farr September 24, 2017 6:07 PM: Why not just have the blacks burn the flag cheered on by their Jewish owners, while the white players stand silently in the background. Then cut to a beer commercial celebrating immigrants. The real villain is Trump, who stops us from unifying through his mean words.
YIH September 24, 2017 6:07 PM: This is a surprise! The Titans are not only holding their own against the the Seahawks, they're currently leading!
Lawyer Guy September 24, 2017 6:08 PM: The Ford Motor family took us taxpayers for $200 million in tax money, then the family led the Lions players in taking a knee to protest the US flag.

I will not go to a game, nor turn on a game on TV.
Jordi September 24, 2017 6:09 PM: Is there any reason for NFL to have a tax exempt status ?

They sure could be stripped of it
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 6:10 PM: Is there any reason for NFL to have a tax exempt status ?

They don't
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 6:12 PM: A lot of people won't see this as a man expressing his opinion - they'll see it as the government attacking free speech. And they won't like that one bit.

That's certainly how the media will try to frame it, but it won't work. If the president can't simply agree with normal Americans without them seeing him as a Nazi, there's no hope that he can accomplish anything, so there's nothing to lose. He also couldn't have gotten elected if that were the case. Check the polls that are/will be coming out, showing how many people agree with him.
YIH September 24, 2017 6:13 PM: Good news! The Bungles are up 14 against the Pack!
johnc September 24, 2017 6:15 PM: @82 / @89 -- Next you'll be telling us that like 2/3rds of the players are black or something.
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 6:30 PM: The NFL would shut it down.

As they shut down the Cowboys when they wanted to honor the five BLM-slain policemen last year. So the "We can't squelch our players' free speech" excuse is a lie. Only certain kinds of speech are allowed, therefore approved.

I didn't care whether they stood during the anthem. If you think you have some kind of beef with America so you're not into it that day, that's between you and your employer if you're on the clock. I didn't care. I do care when the Left tries to shame my patriotic family and neighbors for caring about things like the flag and the anthem. This is "Bitter Americans clinging to their guns and religion" all over again.

Not to mention the gaslighting in their narrative of, "Gosh, they were just playing their game and uniting the country until the president poked his nose in where it didn't belong." That's another lie. Plenty of Americans were pissed about this long before he said anything.
rcocean September 24, 2017 6:32 PM: Someone upthread talked about NFL viewers playing sports instead of watching them.

First, a lot of old guys and disabled guys can't "Play sports on the weekend". Second, a lot of blue collar guys spend the week busting their ass on the job and just want to relax on the weekend & watch TV, and not run a marathon.

That aside. If you're a desk jockey, go and do something active on Sunday - instead of watching the NFLeft.
tc September 24, 2017 6:34 PM: Hey!
Now that ya mention it...:)

But let us not categorize.
Who ya gonna believe: me or your lying eyes?
Michael Maier September 24, 2017 6:40 PM: Too many fans do not WANT to get it. My own brother is more woke than most but he doesn't believe there is any slap against the flag or the country involved here. I cannot believe anyone can MISS it.
Intelectual powerhouse September 24, 2017 6:41 PM: Sometimes people just get caught up in the hype and electricity of a situation. I remember in high school some kids were protesting something and then the local news station showed up at the school and i even started chanting something not even knowing what i was protesting or what was even going on but i got on tv for a few seconds.
Dave September 24, 2017 6:49 PM: Of course, you're an intelectual[sic].
Randall September 24, 2017 6:51 PM: Football is boring, you should watch an exciting sport like Ice Hockey.
fop September 24, 2017 6:54 PM: The NFL should like totally have it's tax-exempt status revoked.
David Power September 24, 2017 6:56 PM: Welfare and Sport - Bread and Circuses.
A Texan September 24, 2017 6:56 PM: Poor negro multimillionaire football players. Try making that kind of money in Liberia. I wonder how many live in one of their ghetto hoods and spend any of their own money helping blacks. Even Oprah, as awful as she is, stopped wasting money on American blacks years ago.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 6:57 PM: fop wrote:The NFL should like totally have it's tax-exempt status revoked.

They dropped it themselves in 2015

"The change will mean the NFL’s head office, which earned revenues of about $327 million in 2013, will have to pay taxes on its income. But the football juggernaut will no longer have to file yearly tax forms that publicly disclose details like executive pay, including for commissioner Roger Goodell, who made $44 million in 2012."
Intelectual powerhouse September 24, 2017 6:59 PM: Also i remember in 2011 on the 4th of July I intentionally posted a video on my youtube channel of the boxer Butterbean wearing red white and blue boxing shorts getting knocked down bc at that time i was unemployed and single and mad at the USA. i posted this as a form of protest against the USA. But i got over that, maybe the young players will too.
Pacoima Jack September 24, 2017 7:00 PM: @106

I know! I find it hard to believe that the NFL still has tax-exempt status. It's shocking.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 7:01 PM: Randall wrote:Football is boring, you should watch an exciting sport like Ice Hockey.

The Pittsburgh Penquins are going to the WhiteHouse. I am not sure how their black players feel about THAT.
Cecil Henry September 24, 2017 7:01 PM: Kneeling to protest Trump was incredibly foolish and just another reason not to watch or care.

They made this political, instead of the game it is. Well, there are bigger issues than football for your 'viewers', and you just stepped into it guys.
Anonymous September 24, 2017 7:04 PM: @33

>"2) The narrative changes, and the protests become anti-Trump. Or worse - they become anti-Trump but focus on his criticism of "free speech". Momentum shifts as Trump's high disapproval #s feed into the protests."

They don't get to pull the "free speech" card after news anchors proclaimed how proud they were that Silicon Valley has been un-personing conservatives and denying them even online banking services.

If they try, Trump will pivot to Antifa and Silicon Valley McCarthyite censorship and go after them with either regs or trust-busting.
Moar Beer Honey September 24, 2017 7:06 PM: Kneeling to protest Trump was incredibly foolish and just another reason not to watch or care.

They made this political, instead of the game it is.

And to think that the NFL has tax-exempt status. Disgusting.
Dave September 24, 2017 7:10 PM: I know! I find it hard to believe that the NFL still has tax-exempt status. It's shocking.

Yeah disgusting and unpatriotic!
Odin Indaway September 24, 2017 7:11 PM: All hale the new DCFL....The Dixie Chick Football League.
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 7:15 PM: Anyone else amused watching Leftist/feminist/numale types try their best in a doomed and pained effort to support the wife-beating/over-the-top macho/athletic/corporate NFL, in response to all this?

Oh, absolutely. Suddenly all the Pajama Boys who have hated jocks ever since high school have discovered the plight of the poor, downtrodden, millionaire ballplayer.
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 7:16 PM: @115 Moar Beer Honey @116 Dave

NFL has not been tax exempt since April 2015.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/28/news/companies/nfl-tax-exempt-status/index.html

Search engines are free for anyone to use.
Dave September 24, 2017 7:25 PM: @Deplorable Paradigm

shhhhh...we're trying to set the over/under on how many times somebody mentions tax-exempt, I'm still taking the over.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 7:30 PM: Dave wrote:@Deplorable Paradigm

shhhhh...we're trying to set the over/under on how many times somebody mentions tax-exempt, I'm still taking the over.

No fair sock puppeting.
Clueless Cuckservative September 24, 2017 7:32 PM: But...but...but...Muh NFL tax exemption!
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 7:34 PM: shhhhh...we're trying to set the over/under on how many times somebody mentions tax-exempt, I'm still taking the over.

Has anyone asked any of the Andrew Anglins for an opinion on this?
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 7:35 PM: The NFL should like totally have it's tax-exempt status revoked.

Did you know Riker was offered his own command?
A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 7:39 PM: The NFL should like totally have it's tax-exempt status revoked.

Did you know Riker was offered his own command?

Wasn't that right about the time Nelson Mandela died in prison?
tc September 24, 2017 7:40 PM: Just hit me, as I peruse this blog, that we have a failure to communicate here. Like some people you just can't reach...

This here fenomena of black protest is not about being 'anti Trump'(may his name forever be sprinkled by the spring flowers of thee of cherry).

Emperor Trump(may his goyish offspring multiply eternally) represents and in his wisdom, when umhampered, expresses, the unconscious wishes and desires of us all goyische unterlings of the gulag we reside in.

They do not dislike The Emperor(be his life sung out loud in glory for the gilded ages to come), they dislike me and You and the threat, that we represent to (((them))).

They can not allow us to worship Him unconditionally.

Which I will do if He keeps on throwing these wrenches into the machina.

Does not matter, if He does it on instinct or desire, it is divine. It is written I declare.

The machina keeps dragging on Him(PBHN), yet He keeps finding new and newer cracks on the wall of lies to further THE agenda of the 14 words.

M.A.W.A
Triple_Scoop September 24, 2017 7:42 PM: They do. They organize as a not for profit through a tax loophole. 92 million a year.

Http://amp.usatoday.com/story/16146473/
Dave September 24, 2017 7:45 PM: Hehehe chalk up another one
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 7:49 PM: But i got over that, maybe the young players will too.

Marcus Peters, excellent 3rd-year cornerback for the Chiefs, didn't stand for the anthem last week. At 24 years old, I seriously doubt he has any clue about the statistics on white/black shootings or police brutality, or is aware of the bigger picture of the culture war. As a black man who grew up in Oakland, he's surely been taught the PC narrative all his life and firmly believes it as much as the average white Midwesterner believes we had to bomb Japan to win WWII.

That's why I didn't care much about the protests. That's not to say they're blameless, because if you're going to protest something, you should make sure you know what you're talking about. But I have a lot more contempt for the leftists who are provoking these guys further because they think it'll be a useful club to use against Trump. When it stops being useful one way or the other, the Left will go right back to hating sports and bitching about their salaries and wanting them all out of a job again.
Stg58/Animal Mother September 24, 2017 7:49 PM: Is this unironic? This has to be trolling.
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 7:52 PM: Did you know Riker was offered his own command?

Has anyone told Nate?
Ransom Smith September 24, 2017 7:59 PM: Jack Ward does not stand with the NFL being tax exempt.
Intelectual powerhouse September 24, 2017 8:02 PM: 24... wow... they are kids... they deserve time to grow and mature without judging them too harshly i think. I know I was a total imbecile at 24.
a deplorable rubberducky September 24, 2017 8:02 PM: The only reason the NFL agreed to surrender its special tax status was the amazing side game of getting municipalities to pay for new stadiums. What a windfall that is! San Diego and St. Louis lost their teams due to failure to commit sufficient monies and land.

I live in the Washington Redskins market. They want a new stadium built for them, and they want it paid for, and they want a most. Yes, a most! It is unbelievable the level of entitlement and aristocracy that these NFL teams feel.

They are very much like the globalists. The argument is that they are so big, such an economic engine, that you might as well lie back and think of England or miss the ride of your life.

And then they go to England, as they did today. And piss on your flag and anthem.
Whitey Whiteman III September 24, 2017 8:04 PM: Trump getting all of the niggras and lefties in America to kneel before Him is kinda hilarious.
a deplorable rubberducky September 24, 2017 8:05 PM: The Redskins want a moat, not a most. God damn spell check! I typed "moat" not "most" twice, and double checked it. And still that didn't work.
Brick Hardslab September 24, 2017 8:07 PM: The question is would time traveling captain Riker invade the west coast?
tc September 24, 2017 8:08 PM: Mine Emperor, annointed by the blossom of tree cherry does his work as did Jesu, the last prophet of God.

He works miracles in the cities he preaches in, while the pharesees in the district of criminals surround and suffocate him when he is in new jerusalem.

When He is with his people, His heart flows, he unites, he is the Father.

He is the Truth. He is Everyone.

When he is divided from us, he is alone, cold and hungry.

He needs to travel, preach, congregate, teach and learn, be united with His peoples, away from the devils, that would crucify Him, as they did with many before Him.

He must not go back to the den of vipers.

He should have his ministry wherever he pleases and the people will come to him.

The hour has come, the man has come.
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 8:08 PM: The question is would time traveling captain Riker invade the west coast?

Only if he's trans racial and identifies as Japanese.
gxg September 24, 2017 8:11 PM: The Redskins want a moat, not a most.

I'm glad you clarified. I was just wondering, "WTH is a most?"
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 24, 2017 8:11 PM: 93. Lawyer Guy September 24, 2017 6:08 PM
The Ford Motor family took us taxpayers for $200 million in tax money,

wut? GM *and* Dodge went into .Gov ownership. Ford refused the Obama bailout.

are you talking about something else?

http://www.factcheck.org/2011/09/ford-motor-co-does-u-turn-on-bailouts/

134. a deplorable rubberducky September 24, 2017 8:02 PM
and they want a most. Yes, a most!

English mofo, do you speak it?
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 24, 2017 8:12 PM: ah, a moat.

Tom Brady envy is no way to go through life, son.
Ceasar September 24, 2017 8:17 PM: #135
"Trump getting all of the niggras and lefties in America to kneel before Him is kinda hilarious."

I smell a meme..A MAGA meme that will make Libs freak out.
Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 8:23 PM: are you talking about something else?

Probably stadium funding
A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 24, 2017 8:32 PM: Do not envy the moat in your neighbor's eye. Be content with the bream in your own.
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 24, 2017 8:43 PM: 144. Josh (the sexiest thing here) September 24, 2017 8:23 PM
Probably stadium funding

US$500 million
($666 million in 2016 dollars[2])
Lazarus September 24, 2017 8:47 PM: Cail Corishev wrote:Did you know Riker was offered his own command?

More than once apparently, turned 75% down, probably because he would lose his tax-exempt status
Felix Bellator September 24, 2017 8:55 PM: So what is the profit margin on an NFL team? Forbes has the NFL at a 15.4% operating margin. But how much of their customer base can they afford to piss off?
Lazarus September 24, 2017 8:55 PM: Dammit, Tom Brady does NOT have a moat. A moat is a contiguous barrier around ones dwelling. He has reflecting pools as water features.

People probably throw coins in them.
James Dixon September 24, 2017 8:55 PM: > Someone upthread made a good point: part of this is due to the 30 year feud between the NFL front office and President Trump.

Maybe Trump should revisit that situation once he's out of office. Or maybe he should take a more careful look into the NFL anti-trust exemption.

> CTEs will eventually kill the game because parents will stop letting their kids play.

That seems likely, yes.
Sock Puppet September 24, 2017 8:58 PM: No moat, no tax exemption......I don't know what to believe anymore!
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 24, 2017 9:00 PM: 149. Lazarus September 24, 2017 8:55 PM
Dammit, Tom Brady does NOT have a moat.

i'm the one who originally made that Dialectic point.

deal with the Rhetoric as it exists, not as you would prefer it too be.
Jack Amok September 24, 2017 9:11 PM: I seriously doubt he has any clue about the statistics on white/black shootings or police brutality, or is aware of the bigger picture of the culture war. As a black man who grew up in Oakland, he's surely been taught the PC narrative all his life and firmly believes it as much as the average white Midwesterner believes we had to bomb Japan to win WWII.

That's why I didn't care much about the protests

That's one of the interesting things about this whole fiasco. A good chunk of the alt-right is highly suspicious of the Po-Po and call them the Badge Gang. If the idiot protesters weren't anti-American first and foremost, and just looking for an excuse, they'd realize this sort of move is counterproductive.

But it's also instructive. Two of the purposes of rituals like standing for the National Anthem is to a) reinforce cultural bonds, b) sucker traitors into exposing themselves by not participating.

This particular ritual wasn't fulfilling its purpose much anymore, so the G-E decided to give it some more juice.
Arizonacalling September 24, 2017 9:19 PM: This whole NFL thing totally ends with next years Superbowl being turned into another black lives thing, with the black chorus, and sermonizing by some black entertainer, with black defiance (think Beyonce without the pretense of simply addressing a recent event).

This is gonna be EPICAL! Black fists, black everything.
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TontoBubbaGoldstein September 24, 2017 9:35 PM: A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:The NFL should like totally have it's tax-exempt status revoked.

Did you know Riker was offered his own command?

Wasn't that right about the time Nelson Mandela died in prison?

Sounds about right. Roughly the same time that I used to read my kids the Berenstein Bears books.
Mark September 24, 2017 9:45 PM: He has reflecting pools as water features.

Are you talking about Tommy's dreamy eyes?
tc September 24, 2017 10:01 PM: There WILL be war.

Volume XXI...

There are a lot of ways to wage it.

Military, political, cultural, religious, racial, class, financial, philosophical, rhetorical, tribal, sexual, etc, etc etc ad nausea,and even the military aspect can be categorized...

of course la french would say cherchez la femme...and there is truth to it, but that that is the the french for ya...

one thing, fershure:

YOU can already not and will not be able to avoid some or other aspect of:

War.

You may deny it, for all I care, but there will come a time, when you will remember this post.

We are human. We are part of the universe. War is like gravity.
War is thermodynamics. War is bitter, sweet, death and life.

If we are here to stay, war will be with us, as long, as there is life.

And I am not talking humans, as species...I am talking life.

Now, that we got that clear...

We are at war at multiple levels.

Seems to me, that ALL of us understand this, even if on guttural level.

Let us be honest guys, we live in virtual and actual war-zones, wherein our side is denied access to weaponry and ammunition, and when occasionally victorious, we are accused of war crimes(racism, white supremacism, antisemitism, mysogony, younameit)

What separates us from our brethren, seems to be the understanding of the magnitude of the hostilities and the nature enemy.

Let us unite.

It is later, than You think it is.
It prolly is later, than I think, in my darkest days, than it is.

This shit is no joke.

We are likely to be waay, waay, beyond politix as we know it...

nfl? nba?

heh...just the cough, the cancer is deeper.

Think about this please, don't try to b glib'n shit.

This here shit about lining up the right way is a great opportunity.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 10:08 PM: ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) wrote:149. Lazarus September 24, 2017 8:55 PM

Dammit, Tom Brady does NOT have a moat.

i'm the one who originally made that Dialectic point.

deal with the Rhetoric as it exists, not as you would prefer it too be.

OK. Moats are to Tom Brady as Walls are to Trump .
JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 10:24 PM: NASCAR seems to have nipped the bud on this issue.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nascar/2017/09/24/nascar-owners-trump-protests-response-petty-ganassi-childress/698122001/
Charlottesvillain September 24, 2017 10:25 PM: We just witnessed thousands of blue-collar Pittsburgh Steeler fans be pushed further right from patriotic nationalist-lite to something else, something more deplorable.
StrongCoffee61 September 24, 2017 10:29 PM: ISIS - the Immature State of Ignorance and Stupidity.

It's America's internal ISIS that's the bigger threat with the NFL being just one example. An enterprise built on the low IQ and immature that's rapidly degraded in player behavior in my lifetime.

Most of us have many grievances with America; however, we understand the flag stands for the entirety of our country which is still the greatest nation ever.
America has the highest GDP Per capita of any country with over 10 million population, an average house size double that of Europe, and many other great advantages.

No thanks to the racial group that dominates the NFL and their sycophants.
tc September 24, 2017 10:53 PM: @161
What does NASCAR have to do with blacks?

I do not want to seem rude, but I do not see your point.

NASCAR is white and south(lock stock and barrel), thus is behind the "idea" of the "promise" of the Trump Presidency.

Anyone with stats as to the moneys behind the teams and management?

I'd b genuinely curious.

Comes to mind: F1

There is one black fella in there, Hamilton.

Now, I am not a fan, do not follow, do not care, but he be in there for years, and even if he is getting the best wheels in the stable, it takes more then that, he is consistent.

You can not do that for years on.

I say he is a top notch fella even with the back wind, but that is a fleeting impression.
As I said, I do not follow.

I suspect, F1 is not gonna take a knee...:)

ya falla?
Nate September 24, 2017 10:53 PM: I watched some great NFL games today. Titans vs Seahawks was freaking fantastic.

I am told I am having #wrongfun.

Yeah?

I've been told that by faggots before.

Faggot.

I don't care.

#RabidPuppies
Nate September 24, 2017 10:58 PM: As for Trump...

He needs to #ShutUpAndBuildTheWall

This is bullshit wag the dog nonsense to distract everyone from the fact that he isn't getting a damn thing done.
Andrew E. September 24, 2017 11:03 PM: This is bullshit wag the dog nonsense to distract everyone from the fact that he isn't getting a damn thing done.

No thanks to your Alabama Scamma' Jeff Sessions.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 11:04 PM: Nate wrote:I watched some great NFL games today. Titans vs Seahawks was freaking fantastic.

Seemed like Demarco Murray's hamstring healed up good.
gxg September 24, 2017 11:06 PM: In Detroit, Anthem singer ends on one knee with black power salute.

https://twitter.com/SInow/status/912001508744601600
tc September 24, 2017 11:12 PM: @166
#dunnohowtotellya, but the wall is the minimal program.
It is the dogwhistle, that we are on the right track.
For the populations on both sides of the wall.

...and civilization/future of this planet of apes as we know it.
Nate September 24, 2017 11:15 PM: "No thanks to your Alabama Scamma' Jeff Sessions."

How many more excuses would you like to make?

Oh the wall doesn't matter.. its just a dog whistle..

Oh its all jeff sessions' fault.

The wall sure as hell matters to me. it matters to a lot of people. If it doesn't matter to you... well... then you can get on the helicopter too.
Nate September 24, 2017 11:16 PM: "Seemed like Demarco Murray's hamstring healed up good."

funny how that happens when your backup averages 8 yards a carry.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 11:20 PM: The previous budget is in effect until Sep. 30. After that, we will see if the wall is funded.
tc September 24, 2017 11:21 PM: Getting early here, so methinx I am bailing out for the nite, but I will leave you with a thought, just occurred to me:

I am an abolitionist.

Please, let me and my peoples go in peace...or we will fuck you up something awful.

Goodnite!
Rough Carrigan September 24, 2017 11:22 PM: With all the bullshit "if you need to, you can justify anything" provisions in the Patriot Act, how the hell can Trump not say "Hey, we're appropriating $7 billion because the lack of security at our southern border is potentially allowing terrorists into the country?
Charlottesvillain September 24, 2017 11:23 PM: Stop making Nate think. He wants his boomerball, dammit.
Lazarus September 24, 2017 11:25 PM: Nate wrote:"Seemed like Demarco Murray's hamstring healed up good."

funny how that happens when your backup averages 8 yards a carry.

Speaking of personal politics in sports.......
Andrew E. September 24, 2017 11:32 PM: Stop making Nate think. He wants his boomerball, dammit.

Hey, five white kids. That should be the average for those on the right.
tc September 24, 2017 11:34 PM: damnit, that's whatta git for checkin' back...

Sorry Nate, mate...I want the Wall too. That is an absolutissimum minimum.
Once it is built, we cut a gate on it, that you can only go through goin' south.

We put the cam on it, stream it and replace nfl with it.

You'll be amused properly.

I promise.

nod Villain.
JDC September 24, 2017 11:34 PM: Last two Sundays I spent redoing my daughter's bathroom. New floor, new trim, commode, pedestal sink and a fresh coat of paint. Didn't miss football at all...I'm done for the year.
Cail Corishev September 24, 2017 11:36 PM: What the heck got into the Redskins? I wasn't buying the Super Bowl hype about the Raiders, but the Redskins made them look pitiful. They're even running the ball now.
True Conservative September 24, 2017 11:36 PM: If it comes to Trump vs football, I choose football.

Only #FakeRight Nazi Alt-Retards stand with Trump over our sport. It is disgusting. Trump needs to apologize!
Jack Amok September 24, 2017 11:43 PM: How many more excuses would you like to make?

C'mon Nate, you have to admit, Sessions has been about as useful as the Seahawks O-Line.
tc September 25, 2017 12:03 AM: @180
hope you made that Obama-proof.
Meaning that ANYONE, I mean ANYONE at ANYTIME can use it for ANY purposes that their hearts desires...

Otherwise I and my comrades will be triggerd and you shall b properly doxxxxxxed.
Bathroom coordinates marked for antifa action groups around the nation.

YOU are NEXTEST!
Lazarus September 25, 2017 12:09 AM: Cail Corishev wrote:What the heck got into the Redskins? I wasn't buying the Super Bowl hype about the Raiders, but the Redskins made them look pitiful. They're even running the ball now.

The Raiders used up a lot of brainpower and energy trying to decide whether they would sit or kneel.

That can take a lot out of a CTE victim.
tc September 25, 2017 12:20 AM: Next offensive drive I plan, I instruct me players to sing the anthem, and make the QB walk up to the goal line through them kneeling sonofabitches.

Note to QB: do not just stand there you hear, with your paw on your heart.
Take one for the team!

Next season ya be the first pick candidate to cut my lawn. I might even let you trim the bushes if you don't fuck up.
I swear!
tc September 25, 2017 12:55 AM: Alejandro Villanueva is welcome to come over and fuck my sister.

Sorry sys, that way it is. I will make the introduction.

Unless You do no like him. Then Alex will excuse himself, like the gentleman, he is.

Love that guy.
Learned about him like an hour ago. All I need to know.
I would be proud to know him.
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 25, 2017 1:06 AM: 161. JaimeInTexas September 24, 2017 10:24 PM
NASCAR seems to have nipped the bud on this issue.

the team owners are *not* NASCAR.

NASCAR corp ( Daytona ) is converged as all get out. they let that fag who owns Camping World force last years awards ceremony to be pulled from a Trump property after he won the election.

1 - Black Lives Matter
2 - the leading cause of death for young Black Men is other young Black Men
3 - if you want to save the lives of young Black Men, you should lock them all up.

you know, if you actually cared.
LP9 September 25, 2017 1:26 AM: Forgive me but this week has been nothing but laughter, I was sorta hoping POTUS would throw the legacy media into trigger-dations with something and he picked the perfect jab; football between more protests in MO, protests over football kneeling and Lawrence O'Donnell's meltdown I am in stitches. I love it
tc September 25, 2017 1:31 AM: @188,
I imagine, but the pawns on the table are so much whiter, and unreconstructed, than in the nfl...am I wrong?

Intwestn thing will be the nba imo. Actually, not. I predict the carbon copy of the nfl.

Racially,financially, that is identical to the nfl.

Dunno how it came to be, but from early childhood, the only teamsport, that I could enjoy was Hockey.

Neither here or there...
tc September 25, 2017 1:59 AM: Come to think, it presents an other opening:

alt right
alt light
alt sport...

...go with it. You is no racisct maffakka, yu is nuttn'politico...yo jus like...alt sport.

Nuttn but nuttn. Who can hang anytn on dat?
Yaknowhatmsayn?

Yono racistmufakka ry?

yu like?
meso happy.

heard it here first...
AB.Prosper September 25, 2017 2:23 AM: James wrote:Justin wrote:Oh, wow. I'm not a big sports fan, but I am a big anti-racism fan, soooooo...

You don't understand why African American males are protesting? Like seriously, AYFKM???!? The police are literally erasing black bodies for profit and everyone pretends this is normal? This is NOT normal.

Capitalism forces young African American men to become Bloodsport gladiators or drug dealers or hip hop artists, denying their intelectual potential as scientists and senators and computer programmers, but you freak out when they take a knee in protest?

Have you even read Ta-Nehisi Coates? He proves that the "whiteness" you cling to isn't even real:

"But race is the child of racism, not the father. And the process of naming “the people” has never been a matter of genealogy and physiognomy so much as one of hierarchy. Difference in hue and hair is old. But the belief in the preeminence of hue and hair, the notion that these factors can correctly organize a society and that they signify deeper attributes, which are indelible—this is the new idea at the heart of these new people who have been brought up hopelessly, tragically, deceitfully, to believe that they are white."

Black Lives Matters, bigots! Educate before-you-hate. 8-)

This may be the reappearance of that Tiny Dick..... I mean Tiny Duck. He usually promotes some negro author for you to read and become educamated.

It almost certainly is though the diction is slightly different.

That said it would be nice if he actually recommended good authors for a change.

I've actually read Coates's work and "Very Smart Brothas" among others . They are highly overrated in the field of political science . Pure midwits. to the degree I sometimes wonder if Coates isn't a token for the Left to use for the feelz . He is not stupid by any means just so Lefty Establishment it makes ones teeth ache.

Any of the MGTOW guys or Red Pill Black (who is an attractive and smart Black women!) or a hundred other people, Ice T for that matter or NWA could do better

I'd personally rather by something by Mike Pondsmith (author of Cyberpunk 2020) who has a good reality based notion of how collapse works and how mega cities might function or L.J. Porter who urban, liberal and black is an interesting and creative person

Both are role playing game authors for the non geeks here and they have far more to say than Coates and his ilk.
a deplorable rubberducky September 25, 2017 3:42 AM: In Detroit, Anthem singer ends on one knee with black power salute.

Of course it had to be Detroit! That city as a huge downtown monument to black power, a huge black fisted arm looking like it's going to hit someone. It's the most offensive public monument in North America, by far. Sitting there in the midst of all the absolute ruin that such thinking created.

And they want to be rid of Robert E. Lee statues situated among plenty instead!
((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 25, 2017 3:49 AM: 190. tc September 25, 2017 1:31 AM
I imagine, but the pawns on the table are so much whiter, and unreconstructed, than in the nfl...am I wrong?

NASCAR fans, teams and owners are far more Right than the nation as a whole, yes.

http://www.daytonapost.com/2010/04/grandson-of-nascar-bill-france-gets-off.html

i'm not sure Brain France is sober enough to understand what's going on half the time. but NASCAR is a big corp, and big corps have HR departments and hire MBAs. and all the MBAs and HR bimbos come out of the same SJW factory that has infected the rest of corporate America.

there are a few Blacks, typically they are washed up college athletes jumping over the wall and slinging tires or something. very rarely do you get someone so gobsmackingly stupid as Teresa Earnhardt that they'll Virtue Signal themselves into hiring a Dindu ( after Dale Sr died ) to run day-to-day operations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Siegel
JaimeInTexas September 25, 2017 6:58 AM: Ok then. It seems that NASCAR team owners ...
tc September 25, 2017 7:24 AM: "NASCAR fans, teams and owners are far more Right than the nation as a whole, yes."

What Nation yu speek off? Ze American Nashoun?

mondieau!

Ah so uncivilised parlez voux...

Fucked the duck didn't ya N194?

Spent too much time on the messenger, should've concentrated on the message instead...go back, and re-read this thread, sure my bit of it is abit abstract, but fluid if I may say so. It drives along the same route, collecting the streaks in one stream...

Bud, hint, ya got no nation - ya living ina plantation

rhimes...

ya got no nation - ya living ina plantation
ya got no nation - ya living ina plantation...

When I ask a question, do not assume, I do not know the answer.
You think me french?
Hey, I like the french. They are civilized, cultured, deeply rooted in their lands, but I am not one of them.

Think of me as someone, who should've been born in California in 1947-ish...

...instead being born just a half a globe away, a distant grandson of Jack London, Thoreau, Hemingway, a closer one to Tolstoy and an other dozen others, who you wouldn't have heard of for not having the language, which is for par, a hopeless romantic, turned realist, who is finding this age of ours to be THE romance, that will be sung about for the gilded ages to come, after our time here is over.

But for that we have to do our duty.

No, I will not argue, will not demean You, bro, and since You are curious, I will take that as a compliment and tell You, that my upbringing is Hungarian, but my soul is Russian it appears, as all the markers appear with age.

zhere yu go...if yu must do so, comrade.
Ken Prescott September 25, 2017 7:30 AM: Bunch of spoiled millionaires.

Here's a bit from the late Jerry Pournelle's West of Honor that covers how I feel right now as a Marine Corps veteran:

The Fleet is our country, we sleep with a rifle,
No man ever begot a son on his rifle,
They pay us in gin and curse when we sin,
There's not one that can stand us unless we're downwind,
We're shot when we lose and turned out when we win,
But we bury our comrades wherever they fall,
And there's none that can face us, though we've nothing at all.
tc September 25, 2017 7:42 AM: @196
These shits think they have it covered...

What you think of that Marine?

sorry...can Ya say it again?

well, if You got no time, I will:

Against all enemies, foreign or domestic...I swear.

Hoah!
tc September 25, 2017 8:00 AM: I did not hear You Marine...

please...whisper it into my ear again...

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to the regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

That about right?
JaimeInTexas September 25, 2017 10:07 AM: To repeat, a thread about the NFL and almost all the conversation has nothing to do with games. Not a good omen.
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