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Tuesday, September 05, 2017

NYPD protecting illegals

Remember this little NYPD shenanigan the next time a policeman lectures you on the importance of being law-abiding:
Thousands of protesters are marching across the Brooklyn Bridge Tuesday evening after Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced in the morning that the Trump administration is ending the DACA program.  Earlier in the day, hundreds of immigrants and advocates from across the tri-state demonstrated at Trump Tower and in Washington, D.C..

As Sessions delivered his remarks on the "winding down" of DACA, dozens of demonstrators marched to Trump Tower in Manhattan, holding signs and chanting, "undocumented -- unafraid." Some sat in the middle of the street in front of Trump Tower, anticipating arrest, and were taken into police custody for blocking traffic.

By the afternoon, nearly three dozen people had been arrested in front of Trump Tower in two different rounds of sit-ins; they were being processed at the 7th Precinct stationhouse and were expected to be issued desk tickets, according to NYPD Chief of Patrol Terence Monahan.

Some of the arrested durng the day are DACA recipients; the NYPD says the protesters arrested outside Trump Tower won't have to be fingerprinted if they provide their information willingly -- no fingerprints means no arrest information transmitted to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

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80 Comments:

Anonymous Alice De Goon September 05, 2017 7:29 PM  

This and the decision by the NYFD to put affirmative action fuzzies ahead of saving people's lives leaves me to think that all of the masculine cops and firemen died in 9/11.

Anonymous Rfvujm September 05, 2017 7:34 PM  

If they provide their information willingly without being fingerprinted, how do we know they provided real, accurate information?

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 7:43 PM  

Sounds like ICE should have been there, figuratively shooting fish in a barrel. They probably don't want to step on local police's toes any more than necessary, though, and today was a day for letting leftists and foreigners rave and show their hatred for America.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 7:46 PM  

Also, "hundreds" probably means "dozens." Not much of a showing, out of 800,000 invaders of this one type, plus all their other illegal comrades and supporters. New York City alone claims to have something like 40,000 DACA invaders; where were they all?

Anonymous Iacobus September 05, 2017 7:47 PM  

So what's the point of law and order if there's no law and no order? Oh, that's right, the feels! My mistake.

Blogger Peter Jackson September 05, 2017 7:49 PM  

Another protest probably arranged by Obama and his government in exile.

Anonymous Rhino September 05, 2017 7:51 PM  

I'm sure that lecturing the Wichita Police Department on the basis of something the NYPD did will be productive.

I ought to go watch that Chris Rock video again.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab September 05, 2017 7:53 PM  

@2 No.

Blogger Thucydides September 05, 2017 7:55 PM  

Photographing and using Facebook and other converged social media tools against them to discover the identities of the protesters could be interesting.

Just saying.....

Anonymous Brick Hardslab September 05, 2017 7:56 PM  

If one of those criminals goes on to commit another crime Dee blasio is to blame.

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative September 05, 2017 7:59 PM  

But...but...but...muh nation of Immigrants! Muh Emma Lazarus! Muh melting pot! Muh rule of law...wait, wrong script.
Lemme get back in a minute.

Anonymous simplytimothy September 05, 2017 8:05 PM  

"Hiding in the shadows" we knew you well.

Blogger Elocutioner September 05, 2017 8:10 PM  

On May 1, 2006 millions of illegals and their treasonous supporters marched openly in the streets and Bush didn't have any of them arrested or sent back. ICE stood back and watched.

Anonymous Bad Attitude September 05, 2017 8:14 PM  

As a white heterosexual male Christian, I will be punished to the fullest extent of the law if I break the law. I'm not a protected member of a leftist-favored group. On top of it, I'm expected to pay taxes to support leftist lunacy like that.

Blogger Elder Son September 05, 2017 8:21 PM  

Well, if God Emperor Trump thinks mini-me god emperor cops are okay with more military hardware and some loin adulation, then these cops are okay with me!

Blogger pyrrhus September 05, 2017 8:26 PM  

Cop pensions and health care uber alles.....even donuts aren't as important...

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass September 05, 2017 8:40 PM  

Alice De Goon wrote:This and the decision by the NYFD to put affirmative action fuzzies ahead of saving people's lives leaves me to think that all of the masculine cops and firemen died in 9/11.

They'd probably be sickened if they could see what has become of their NYPD and NYFD 16 years - 5 days from 9/11.

Warren Wilhelm, Jr. needs to be removed from office. He's a threat of national security.

Cail Corishev wrote:Sounds like ICE should have been there, figuratively shooting fish in a barrel. They probably don't want to step on local police's toes any more than necessary, though, and today was a day for letting leftists and foreigners rave and show their hatred for America.

It'll make the coming deportations all the more glorious. MOAR DEPORTATIONS! 20 MILLION MOAR!!!!

Elocutioner wrote:On May 1, 2006 millions of illegals and their treasonous supporters marched openly in the streets and Bush didn't have any of them arrested or sent back. ICE stood back and watched.

I was watching an old episode of Border Wars and they had the all the cucks talking about enforcement and pathways to citizenship. Long live Trump! Bush 43 is history. MOAR DEPORTATIONS!

Note to the confused, the words illegal and alien exist for a reason: http://www.nafbpo.org/words-go.html

I just realized something: I'll actually be listening to the POTUS' Christmas address this year for the first time in my 30 years of existence. Heh.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable September 05, 2017 8:41 PM  

Another protest probably arranged by Obama and his government in exile.

Hasn't actually got much done, has he? Almost like he's phoning it in on the way to the golf course.

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise September 05, 2017 8:45 PM  

These DACA goofs risk arrest, attend public schools, and spout that they are "undocumented and unafraid." Yet, in the next breath, they whine that they must "hide in the shadows" -- as if they are being hunted like animals.

As for the latter: Yeah, baby!

Anonymous Johnny Mayonnaise September 05, 2017 9:00 PM  

"Childhood" my ass.

1. DACA covers ages zero through thirty-six.
2. The average age of a DACA "child" is twenty-two.

Yet Jeff Flake, Republican senator from AZ, is falsely claiming that the average age of a DACA illegal is SIX.

Is it any coincidence that Flake was born in -- and I'm not making this up -- Snowflake, Arizona?

Anonymous Ages September 05, 2017 9:01 PM  

Trump just tweeted:

Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can't, I will revisit this issue!

First off, a faulty premise: Congress "legalizing" DACA? So is that how we're going to deal with Obama's leftover garbage? Accept that he broke the law, but it has been normalized, so we'll just pass the formal paperwork? (Worked for Obamacare!)

Huckabee-Sanders, in the press conference today, called on Congress to pass this AMNESTY BILL! Yes, it's Congress' job to legislate, but that doesn't mean all legislation will help MAGA.

So, is Trump just trolling them, thinking they will never be able to pass it? But it sounds like they are going to move heaven and earth to pass a DACA law. Will Trump veto it if they DO manage to pass it?

And what does "I will revisit the issue" mean?

He said DACA would be rescinded on day one. Now it's day 227 and he's playing games with it.

Hey Republicans: Illegals will NEVER VOTE FOR YOU. You could give them a million dollars apiece and they would turn and give it to the DNC. The only way to win is to DEPORT THEM.

Someone talk me off the ledge.

Anonymous Ages September 05, 2017 9:03 PM  

Basically, my problem is this: The Administration is saying Congress needs to do its job.

NO! Congress needs to do NOTHING and Trump needs to ENFORCE THE LAW.

Blogger TheLiberatorOfBados September 05, 2017 9:26 PM  

@ 22.

Trump is dumping this off on the GOPe to force them to show the electorate who they really are. If the donor class that owns the GOPe demands that there be amnesty for the DAPA people and the GOPe pushes it while dragging their knuckles on Obamacare, tax reform, and the wall, and keep in mind the 6 months ends right before primary season....

Yeah, there is a method here. Trump is basically forcing Congress/Senate to either get with the MAGA agenda or expose themselves to the electorate and suffer their wrath in the process.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 9:29 PM  

The Administration is saying Congress needs to do its job.

Read between the lines a little. He's telling Congress, which has been virtue-signaling at no risk to themselves by saying he should keep the DACAs, that if they want to keep them, they can damn well do it themselves, since it should have been up to them in the first place and not usurped by Obama.

If they do pass something, we'll see what it is. I'd guess it will be some kind of delaying action, because they won't want to give amnesty to nearly a million illegals and then answer to their constituents for it. So they might come up with some kind of continued deferral of the deferral, and then Trump can use that to demand other concessions.

This is negotiating from strength, as much as possible considering his position. The usual Republican method would be to focus on deporting the illegals with multiple DUIs or something, while preemptively conceding on DACA in hopes of getting the other side to compromise down the road. Trump kills DACA, the most optically forceful anti-illegal move he could make -- two weeks after anonymous White House sources said they were talking him out of it -- which signals that he's willing to go after any illegals. Now they will be coming to him with concessions. And if they do pass some kind of deferral that he signs, it'll be something temporary, while in the meantime the Wall prototypes are selected this month, Sessions continues working on Sanctuary Cities, etc.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 9:30 PM  

@21 Ages

The "Trump is cucking!" shill routine worked better a few months ago. You really need to try harder.

On the odd chance anyone else tries it, this isn't that hard: DACA is an optics nightmare. It dies by a thousand cuts. DAPA is dead; DACA has been set to burn up on re-entry. Trump has given a live hand-grenade to Congress.

Outcomes only come from Realities. If you're still on the cliff at this point, with Trump, just jump. You're a worthless, preening cuck.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2017 9:33 PM  

Ages wrote:Trump just tweeted:

Congress now has 6 months to legalize DACA (something the Obama Administration was unable to do). If they can't, I will revisit this issue!

First off, a faulty premise: Congress "legalizing" DACA? So is that how we're going to deal with Obama's leftover garbage? Accept that he broke the law, but it has been normalized, so we'll just pass the formal paperwork? (Worked for Obamacare!)

Huckabee-Sanders, in the press conference today, called on Congress to pass this AMNESTY BILL! Yes, it's Congress' job to legislate, but that doesn't mean all legislation will help MAGA.

So, is Trump just trolling them, thinking they will never be able to pass it? But it sounds like they are going to move heaven and earth to pass a DACA law. Will Trump veto it if they DO manage to pass it?

And what does "I will revisit the issue" mean?

He said DACA would be rescinded on day one. Now it's day 227 and he's playing games with it.

Hey Republicans: Illegals will NEVER VOTE FOR YOU. You could give them a million dollars apiece and they would turn and give it to the DNC. The only way to win is to DEPORT THEM.

Someone talk me off the ledge.


The word is that PDJT is trying to expose the remainder of the Republican Globalists who are still hiding... they vote for the non-Globalists when they know that vote is meaningless. The end of the 6 months is right before Primary season, and this will bring all the Republican Globalists out of the closet.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 9:34 PM  

@19, Similarly, I kept hearing today that the DACAs are highly educated, never criminal, productive, taxpaying members of society -- and also that we'll be paying $6 for avocados without them here to pick fruit for less than minimum wage. So I guess they pick the avocados in their spare time when they're not doing surgery or writing code? And so much for that zero crime rate if they're working for under minimum wage -- aside from the laws being broken by being here in the first place.

The Left really ought to decide which sob story they're going with, because the jumble of them they're using now don't work very well together.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 9:36 PM  

@25 Looking Glass, turns out I like your answer better than mine.

Anonymous Anonymous September 05, 2017 9:47 PM  

I've taken to compiling a list of every illegal immigrant who has been brazen enough to give a press interview using a real name and identifying information.

If that doesn't smack of utter brazenness, I don't know what does.

But I'll tell you something, when you go through the simple expedient of compiling a list of information that idiot leftists publish to further their agenda, but give it a vaguely sinister lead-in, it becomes all kinds of TRIGGERING.

Good fun, really: https://benkurtzblog.wordpress.com/2016/11/10/list-of-publicity-seeking-illegal-aliens-who-trump-should-deport-immediately-upon-taking-office/

Anonymous johnc September 05, 2017 9:50 PM  

A coordinated, widespread tax strike is the only remaining peaceful mechanism to get these governments back in order.

And if that doesn't work we might as well start looking at learning Black Bloc tactics for ourselves. For all the talk I hear from people on the right about "pitchforks and torches", all I see is that it's the left that has mobs strong enough to force city governments into submission.

Blogger Stilicho September 05, 2017 9:53 PM  

@21 it's a crowded ledge. You're more apt to get pushed off than talked off.

Trump's likely playing the media and Congress, but it would be nice to see something DONE. Deport. Illegals. Now. All of them that can be found.

Dude, where's my wall?

Make America American Again! #MAAA

Do that and MAGA becomes orders of magnitude easier and more likely to be achieved. Don't, and MAGA will not happen. It really is that simple.

My inner cynic thinks Trump is just promising to solve problems while planning to blame the opposition for failure in order to get re-elected... right out of the cuckservative playbook. Even if Trump is amenable to some sort of immigration compromise, he's astute enough to know his opponents will accept nothing less than unconditional surrender...UNLESS he hammers them with so many deportations they cry out for a compromise in order to save what illegal supporters they have left.

Yet, he's shown no signs of making ICE do its job and enforce the law across the board.

2020 is going to be ugly for Trump unless he keeps his promises. The cucks are sharpening their knives and so are the commiecrats. Hell, I heard Hugh Hewitt promoting the Fonz as a voice of reason from the left today. The Fonz, who "feelz" for Trump's staff whose job he envisions as preventing Trump from keeping his campaign promises.

The people are all Trump has and tweets won't keep the people in lieu of accomplishment. The American people are tired of politicians pissing on their collective leg and telling them it's raining. So far, Trump has just been pissing on the other leg.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2017 9:56 PM  

johnc wrote:A coordinated, widespread tax strike is the only remaining peaceful mechanism to get these governments back in order.

And if that doesn't work we might as well start looking at learning Black Bloc tactics for ourselves. For all the talk I hear from people on the right about "pitchforks and torches", all I see is that it's the left that has mobs strong enough to force city governments into submission.



HA,HA, HA! "Strong enough to force city government into submission."

Naw, Dude, they are ARE ON THE SAME SIDE, FROM THE GET GO. There is no "submission." Your take on things has a fugitive relationship to reality.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 10:08 PM  

@28 Cail Corishev

Haha. Part of it is I've finally had time to cast Trump's actions in a Strategic light. We knew the guy is good, but how good he is becomes kind of amazing. It was something of an offhand comment by Thomas Wictor on DeadBird that was the key to tie it together: Trump has an entire slate of Military Spooks working for him. I knew he had an outside Intel operation, outside Media operation & an outside Feedback loop (much of which is himself). However, add an armada of Military Spooks, and suddenly it all makes sense: It's a Spook Game all the way down. (This puts Cerno & Posobiec in on the "Flynn Gambit" as well; Military Lawyer & Intel Analyst, respectively.)

I won't speak further on the topic, though. Some of the stuff to come should be fun, because since it's a Spook Game, the terms are different. I really have been meaning to get a full copy of the Nine Laws.

The Foreign Policy stuff is a bit easier because Trump is running back most of the non-Wilsonian playbook. Think Commodore Perry not Obama in Cairo. ( https://infogalactic.com/info/Matthew_C._Perry ) And if Trump rebuilds the Navy, that'll be slightly more apt than my first thought. But, much like Perry, Trump isn't running FP to make friends. He doesn't want to be feted at Davos. [If he ordered Davos nuked, it's hard to say we'd be all that annoyed...]

Trump is displaying what real freedom is: not unbound to duties, but not bound to the accumulated stupidities & failures. This makes him a "Change Agent" in all of the ways that should terrify the current order.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 10:14 PM  

Dude, where's my wall?

Prototypes are coming this month. The globalists attempted to delay that by having a couple of the contractors file complaints against the bidding process, but the administration managed to get past that. The admin also waived some federal requirement for environmental studies, which I'm sure would have dragged on forever. As I understand it, despite those attempts to bog things down, everything is still on schedule or better, and construction on the real thing could start before the end of this year instead of next year as originally planned.

I too will be very glad when full construction is underway.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 10:16 PM  

@30 johnc

Never fall for optics. Castro had dozen members in his organization and convinced the NYT he had thousands, so they ran propaganda operations for him. Those NYC gringos are quite dimwitted.

As to your one statement: you really don't get where things have changed. "Direct Action" actually has failed every time it has been tried since the 1960s. They've made the "Days of Rage" disappear from History, when there were thousands of bombings. They're not even that competent anymore. Heck, /pol/ can find you with your eyes and shoes.

The Right doesn't need to get violent unless an Order Down scenario happens. Then it's a matter of rapidly assembling an army & taking territory.

Blogger dc.sunsets September 05, 2017 10:16 PM  

Is Trump trying to establish more reasons to dump GOP congressmen in their primaries?

Go ahead cucks. Vote amnesty. Get PRIMARIED. Go home in 2019, try finding a real job.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 10:20 PM  

@34 Cail Corishev

"Dude, Where's My Wall" could be a hilarious comedy skit. Actually.

As to the Wall itself, 4 designs of concrete construction were approved for study/test builds. 4 metal fence designs will be selected in a couple of weeks. The design proposes aren't just 1 type of fence: they expect to use multiple types in multiple places.

The less Trump talks about the Wall, for now, the less they Media can gin up problems. That's why he runs "The Apprentice: White House" for the public to eat up. It keeps the DC journalists busy. It lets everything else chug along.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 10:21 PM  

@33 Looking Glass, I was actually talking about your dismissive "just jump."

But yes, learning that he has his own substantial intelligence service was a key for me too. Especially combined with some learning I did about the CIA and what we're really talking about when we say "Deep State," with the CIA as its military/intelligence arm.

Anonymous Gen. Kong September 05, 2017 10:22 PM  

All he has to do is order arrests of Sactuary-City officials for openly defying Federal law. Send in the jackboots to frog-march Rahm and similar criminals out into the street in cuffs with a federal goon sticking a gun in his rotten decayed visage. It's not about to happen though, despite all the boasts of 12-D chess, etc. Trump might be doing what he can, but deep-state obviously has him pretty much bottled up. We should not count him out, but he really would have to become God-Emperor to accomplish much. As was noted during the campaign, the best we can hope for is that he will buy us some time. At least he's not started a war with Russia yet, despite the Gay Old Pedobears' endless efforts to push him into it.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2017 10:23 PM  

You could say that the God-Emperor is using "agility," the way John Boyd used that word, and he, and his group are using it in multiple dimensions.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 10:24 PM  

@36 dc.sunsets

"Try finding a real job" --- that's a REALLY good insult to hit up the GOPe with.

But, yes, DACA's descent into the atmosphere is set to finish burning up throughout the Primary season, but soon enough to leave room for late challengers to a lot of party stalwarts. Watch Trump repeat this in 2020 as well.

Blogger modsquad September 05, 2017 10:25 PM  

pyrrhus wrote:Cop pensions and health care uber alles.....

Wait until they get the Detroit treatment.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 05, 2017 10:27 PM  

The less Trump talks about the Wall, for now, the less they Media can gin up problems.

And the MSM is happy not to talk about it because they don't want people to find out how well it's going. That would conflict with their "Building the Wall is impossible" narrative. Also, it allows his supporters to think there's no progress and feel defeated. Don't expect the MSM to tell you about the winning.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 10:35 PM  

@42 modsquad

Some really industrious tricksters could do some real damage in that department.


@40 tuberman

Yup. The OODA loop is more applicable to Foreign Policy, given the pieces are easier to layout, but there's a clear application of the Feedback aspects. The really keen will realize the MAGA Rallies are a key part of that. :)

The super-deep cut is that Trump has either done or had done extensive Failure Analysis of every President since Truman. There are consistent aspects to mistakes & traps, and Trump is readily avoiding them. Trump never masses his forces in the sight of his enemies. Trump has gone all... 1776 on them. :)

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2017 10:42 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:All he has to do is order arrests of Sactuary-City officials for openly defying Federal law. Send in the jackboots to frog-march Rahm and similar criminals out into the street in cuffs with a federal goon sticking a gun in his rotten decayed visage. It's not about to happen though, despite all the boasts of 12-D chess, etc. Trump might be doing what he can, but deep-state obviously has him pretty much bottled up. We should not count him out, but he really would have to become God-Emperor to accomplish much. As was noted during the campaign, the best we can hope for is that he will buy us some time. At least he's not started a war with Russia yet, despite the Gay Old Pedobears' endless efforts to push him into it.

Hey, the 12D Chess concern meme was stale long ago.

What's happening is more like 4GW stuff on multiple levels. It is OODA Loop probes, distractions, confusing the enemy, doing the unexpected, instead of just the most efficient, and etc.

PDJT is using his own spook stuff, economic teams, doing economic warfare, feigned threats, military alliances, passing the ball to the opposition, so they show their hand, etc, and etc.

The best term for this is "AGILITY" in the Boyd's OODA Loop sense. Screw your 12D chess!

Blogger Elder Son September 05, 2017 10:49 PM  

Trump is basically forcing Congress/Senate to either get with the MAGA agenda or expose themselves to the electorate and suffer their wrath in the process.

Cool. RINO A, or RINO B.

It's not like it is a choice between Trump, or Hillary.

Blogger James Dixon September 05, 2017 10:50 PM  

Dreamers, huh. This seems appropriate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rrj3-MhbEmY

Blogger dienw September 05, 2017 10:50 PM  

"Mayor" Blasio must go back.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 05, 2017 11:02 PM  

Boomertard Cher must be lonely in Current Year.

Blogger Mountain Man September 05, 2017 11:02 PM  

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Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 11:08 PM  

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2017/09/05/art-of-the-deal-trump-says-hell-revisit-daca-if-congress-does-nothing/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

If GOPe & the Blue Checks are in agreement, then they've clearly missed what Trump is doing. Great! Why would Trump slow roll a Topic that works to his & MAGA's benefit at the cost of the GOPe & the Dems. Why, why would Trump slow roll *Illegal Immigration* into the 2018 Primary & General Election.

Why, I ask you, why? What could possibly make him do that? /s


Though the comments are great new name for Obama: "Emperor Whatshisname the Forgettable" That's just gold, there.

Anonymous Looking Glass September 05, 2017 11:15 PM  

I guess it's "strategic ambiguity", but does anyone know the term they use for when Trump makes a statement that seems specific but is really incredibly vague?

He's been doing this since Art of the Deal, where he's telling you a lot but only if you look. Otherwise you inject your own assumptions and move on. It's not "Leading", as it's a form of misdirection, in a way.

Related, Trump actually explained the entire Afghanistan policy in that Gen. Pershing tweet after the Barcelona explosion. All of the people that Googled Gen. Pershing were automatically going to the "pig skin" topic, but they missed what Pershing did. Same thing here. Now Congress has no "mandate" to get anything done. (Apparently Paul Ryan might be a bit of a lazy leader? Hadn't heard that one before today.)

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 05, 2017 11:25 PM  

It's just putting another unlovely Lefty group on the street and on camera

Anonymous FP September 05, 2017 11:31 PM  

Rhino wrote:I'm sure that lecturing the Wichita Police Department on the basis of something the NYPD did will be productive.

I ought to go watch that Chris Rock video again.


When they talk enough about national unity for the blue wall, they're gonna have to eat crow along with the nypd. Ignorance of the law is no excuse I thought.

The Police in America have had a bad week on the PR front. Blatant stand downs against illegals in nyc and the disaster that was that Salt Lake City arrest of a nurse for refusing to illegally draw blood from a car accident victim.

https://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2017/09/dearjackbooted-thugs-youre-officially.html?m=1

Toss in the info that Comey gave Hilldawg a pass before the investigation was over for the hat trick.

Blogger tuberman September 05, 2017 11:31 PM  

44. Looking Glass

"The super-deep cut is that Trump has either done or had done extensive Failure Analysis of every President since Truman. There are consistent aspects to mistakes & traps, and Trump is readily avoiding them. Trump never masses his forces in the sight of his enemies. Trump has gone all... 1776 on them. :)"

I know there have been plans by him since 1988, at least sketches of the plan to run. He probably checked on all those things early on. I've just started reading "Art of the Deal." Sun Tzu was certainly on his reading list.

Blogger Matthew Funk September 06, 2017 12:20 AM  

What book contains the "OODA" explanation in full? I know the concept. Is it contained in Creveld's book?

Blogger Buybuydandavis September 06, 2017 12:25 AM  

tuberman wrote:
The word is that PDJT is trying to expose the remainder of the Republican Globalists who are still hiding... they vote for the non-Globalists when they know that vote is meaningless. The end of the 6 months is right before Primary season, and this will bring all the Republican Globalists out of the closet.


That was my original take, or at least hope, but Trump's "If they can't, I will revisit this issue!" implies that failing to implement DACA is not considered a valid option by Trump.

Blogger Ingot9455 September 06, 2017 1:40 AM  

@56 The OODA Loop is from the notes from talks that Air Force Col. John Boyd would give. There's no one particular book, I don't think. You can find some of the slides at https://web.archive.org/web/20110324054054/http://www.danford.net/boyd/essence.htm

Anonymous John VI September 06, 2017 2:01 AM  

Nah. It lights a fire under the nevertrumpers. They ALWAYS assume that whatever Trump is planning, it will be infinitely worse that anything they could come up with. They are, after all, secret kings.

"I will revisit this issue" is trumps siren call to all the gammas and sjws in the swamp to rise up as one and say
"Hold my beer"

Anonymous Me, I blame Cernovich and his rah-rah self-marketing schemes September 06, 2017 2:11 AM  

I took a few days off of his blog, and VD turned into raving lunatic.

Would somebody who has access please inform his wife that he's wandered off the plantation. He advocates refusing to talk to media, while advertising Anglin's refusal to debate him as some kind of success.

His wife might be able to recenter him. Maybe he isn't the super genius he supposes to be. Maybe he's just really adept at justifying his prejudices.

#SaveVoxDay

Anonymous Precious September 06, 2017 2:23 AM  

I took a few days off of his blog

^Obvious lie caused by butt hurt

Would someone...

^Concern trolling

Blogger Aesop September 06, 2017 3:33 AM  

An explanation of the OODA Loop will be found in the index notes to
Boyd: The Fighter Pilot Who Changed The Art Of War by Robert Coram

https://www.amazon.com/Boyd-Fighter-Pilot-Who-Changed/dp/0316796883/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1504682681&sr=8-1&keywords=boyd+the+fighter+pilot+who+changed+the+art+of+war

John Boyd's the guy who coined the term, and proved it over Nellis AFB for ten years.
"Twenty Second Boyd" would put you in your jet behind him in the "kill" position, and in twenty seconds, be on your tail, by getting inside your OODA loop, and forcing you to react, getting in a worse position by the second.

He was also one of the inside guys behind getting the F-15, (104-0 in air combat as of 2008), built and adopted as the machine to beat the world.
And for graphing and showing the performance envelope of US v. adversary fighters, pioneering how to beat them by fighting on the best term for your plane, rather than theirs.

Boyd never wrote a book about all that.
Coram's is the go-to source for it all.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club September 06, 2017 4:02 AM  

So I guess they pick the avocados in their spare time when they're not doing surgery or writing code?

Imagine the agony of the poor wretch who awakens from his DREAM in a puddle of sweat shrieking, "I replaced his brain with guacamole?!"

Blogger John Williams September 06, 2017 4:10 AM  

If they provide their information willingly without being fingerprinted, how do we know they provided real, accurate information?
Si, Senior, I am David Smeeth.

Blogger Matthew Funk September 06, 2017 4:31 AM  

@62 Thank you

Anonymous The refugees all end up on Italy's shore. September 06, 2017 4:43 AM  

Precious wrote:I took a few days off of his blog

^Obvious lie caused by butt hurt

Would someone...

^Concern trolling


VD didn't buy any weapons over the weekend.

Did you want to argue about this? Or did you have a point to make?

Blogger Matt September 06, 2017 4:55 AM  

I hate it here.

Anonymous TS September 06, 2017 4:59 AM  

"Naw, Dude, they are ARE ON THE SAME SIDE, FROM THE GET GO."

One "side" is the actual state and leftards are statists. They are on the same team despite window dressing arrests from the state. Everybody on the Alt-Right to normies should know this.

Anonymous Ages September 06, 2017 6:19 AM  

Trump's "If they can't, I will revisit this issue!" implies that failing to implement DACA is not considered a valid option by Trump.


That is my basic concern. I hope you all are right, and he's just taunting them. But I admit all his "compassion" talk has got me spooked.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 06, 2017 6:35 AM  

Matt wrote:I hate it here.
WEll then, there's a simple, magical cure for your rectal pain.
The refugees all end up on Italy's shore. wrote:Did you want to argue about this? Or did you have a point to make?
You talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded.

Blogger Phunctor September 06, 2017 7:40 AM  

@tattoine:
Guacamole eh? That explains a lot!

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira September 06, 2017 7:58 AM  

Reprehensible and inexcusable. Give him the chair, THE CHAIR!

Blogger tuberman September 06, 2017 8:08 AM  

Matthew Funk wrote:What book contains the "OODA" explanation in full? I know the concept. Is it contained in Creveld's book?

You could say, what the full OODA Loop does is shakes you constantly out of solipsism, as you must constantly be using observation and orientation, after tests of reality through decisions and actions. It is a more actionable Sun Tzu, and in fact, all of Sun Tzu brilliance is implied by Boyd's term "agility."

The biography, "Boyd," by Coram contains about 70% of what you nee to know, and takes you way beyond the shallow concept of mere faster is better. But, Boyd was a huge fan of Sun Tzu, and to understand Boyd, you should read Sun Tzu both before and after stuff on Boyd. "Science, Strategy, and War," will clue you in on the rest, including comparing Boyd's ideas to other strategic war writers, down to details.

Blogger tuberman September 06, 2017 8:51 AM  

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Anonymous BBGKB September 06, 2017 11:02 AM  

NYFD to put affirmative action fuzzies ahead of saving people's lives leaves me to think that all of the masculine cops and firemen died in 9/11

I don't mind people in NYC dying due to affirmative action, but they have some girl EMTS in my area so fire fighters show up on EMT calls to help lift.

If they provide their information willingly without being fingerprinted, how do we know they provided real, accurate information?

The NYPD has to respect low IQ low trust 3rdworlders.

Also, "hundreds" probably means "dozens." Math is racist

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 06, 2017 11:38 AM  

Mr. Council on Foreign Relations, "Invade the world!", (((Max Boot))) is unhappy. Because of Trump he feels he doesn't belong here anymore.

I’m already a person without a party, having left the GOP after 30 years because of my opposition to Trump and all that he stands for. Increasingly I feel like a Jew, an immigrant, a Russian — anything but a normal, mainstream American.

Well.

Anonymous peppermint September 06, 2017 12:33 PM  

The left doesn't have paramilitaries capable of forcing city govts into submission. City govts in Cville and Berkeley cooperate with left mobs to try to make it seem that way.

The right does have capable paramilitaries, but if they are ever used while the US military is intact, they will be slaughtered.

Anonymous Wendy Weinbaum September 06, 2017 3:13 PM  

Replace DACA with TACO - Trump's Action for Childhood Outsiders! LOL!

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