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Saturday, September 30, 2017

Too clever for love

This, in a nutshell, illustrates why pushing women into higher education is a waste of human talent, a net producer of human misery, and unnatural selection for a less intelligent population:
We're just too clever to find a boyfriend! It may sound insufferably smug, but these women say their high intellect means they struggle to meet someone. Natasha Hooper, 22, says men do not know how to deal with educated women. She is worried about not finding love because of a shortage of educated men. Becca Porter, 23, says a man factory worker turned her down for being too clever. She says the sense of achievement derived from learning is alien to most men. Andrea Gould, 41, believes her intellect has prevented her from finding love. ‘I get the impression they’d rather date a girl without a degree, said Andrea.

The issue, she explains, is the calibre of men she attracts. ‘I’m not claiming to be Albert Einstein, but I can’t seem to meet a man I find intellectually stimulating,’ she says. Nor is she the only well-educated young woman who says she is too clever to find love. Indeed, she is one of a growing breed of women who fear — perhaps with good reason — they will be left on the proverbial shelf because of a shortage of educated men.

Recent figures from the university admissions service UCAS showed that 30,000 more women than men are starting degree courses in the UK. On A-level results day last month, 133,280 British women aged 18 secured a university place compared with 103,800 men of the same age. The effects of this carry over into the workplace, where women aged from 22 to 29 typically now earn £1,111 more a year than their male peers.
This is what happens when Man attempts to outwit Mother Nature. Speaking as a man who is, statistically speaking, more intelligent than 99.9 percent of the species, I can attest that I don't particularly value female intelligence. The cognitive differences between a normal smart girl and an average girl is virtually undetectable to me, and the most noticeable difference is that the former tends to behave in a much more challenging manner, which is the real reason that men "would rather date a girl without a degree".

It's not about about the intelligence, the cleverness, or the credentials, but rather, the attitude that tends to come with it. Men know perfectly well how to deal with educated women: they avoid them. They do so because they want an attractive and pleasant companion, not an argumentative opponent trained by her professors to regard every conversational interaction as a formal debate.

The essential problem is that the combination of female solipsism with female hypergamy means that too many women now desire the logically impossible and the statistically improbable. Women are attracted to men who possess qualities of size, earning potential, education, and, yes, intelligence, that are superior to their own. That's fine, but the problem is when they believe that men are attracted to the same thing.

And it's a damn good thing we're not, because if we were, no couple would ever pair off and get together, because if X > Y for Z, then Y !> X for Z. Mutual attraction would be logically impossible. These women, both young and not-so-young, have subscribed to a false and incoherent philosophy of romance that quite literally cannot exist and has rendered both their intelligences and their educations moot. Furthermore, as believe I was the first to point out more than a decade ago, the rising F/M ratio of women at institutions of higher learning mean that at least one-third of all college graduates cannot ever marry a man with equivalent or better academic credentials.

So, it should come as no surprise that these intelligent, educated women have found neither romance nor love, have not married, and most likely, have inadvertently removed themselves from the gene pool.

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181 Comments:

Blogger Howard Stone September 30, 2017 6:13 AM  

Investing in a four to six year degree is only going to waste valuable earning years while putting most people in dept. for life. Where is the wisdom in that?

OpenID markstoval September 30, 2017 6:14 AM  

"It's not about about the intelligence, the cleverness, or the credentials, but rather, the attitude that tends to come with it."

This may be one of your more incitement comments of the month. It is something that men and women on the right need to understand.

I found the whole essay to be spot-on and important. I bet many will read it and think it a simple toss-away essay. But Western Culture problems include lack of real marriage. Men and women need to marry young and produce children and raise them in a solid and secure home.

What I am saying is that the interactions between men and women have become all screwed up over the last 50 years. (or longer --- I don't really know) We are not passing on our culture but we are passing on disgusting dysfunction.

Sending our kids to left-wing indoctrination camps called universities is not helping.

Anonymous TS September 30, 2017 6:17 AM  

Educated ragdolls.

https://www.amazon.com/Crazy-Lady-Coloring-Book-Animewild/dp/B014HDN10Q

Anonymous old man in a villa September 30, 2017 6:20 AM  

And their failure at the prime directive of the human experience tells them they are clever?

It never ceases to amaze me, the self-delusion.

Blogger Desillusionerad September 30, 2017 6:39 AM  

Read the whole thing it's fucking awesome:)
My personal favourite is the anecdote of the guy who canceled their date 4 times - seemingly no reflection abut why he has no need to change if he can get away with that. But that's how it is if you are a clever moderately handsome fellow at uni these days, there are after all basically 2 women for every man.

Anonymous Skeptic September 30, 2017 6:56 AM  

It is probably true that under normal cicumstances most people can not relate to someone closely more than 5 iq points up or down. But the problems with these women is that the corresponding men who are their match intellectually are too smart to be fooled by feminism, and are increasingly too smart to be fooled by credentialism and corporate drudgery. The men pursueing the same careers as women and available to them now are probably stupider than these women, given womens instinct to rationaize thier choices.

Anonymous deplorable September 30, 2017 6:59 AM  

‘I’ll always listen to be polite, but superficial, self-indulgent conversation is an immediate red flag,’ she says.

Yeah she's not going to make wife material with a tude like that. On top of that they are not even attractive. Some of them are really doggy looking, a double whammy for them. Sad.

Blogger Keyser Soze September 30, 2017 7:00 AM  

Even before wimyns became so smart, I always had difficulty relating to them, which I erroneously attributed to a social dysfunction on my part. Through this site and others I have learned that my IQ, while not in VD league, is above the average, causing an inability to meaningfully talk to most wimyns. Now a days, they are all so smart, that the discussion --> debate, and typically they lack sufficient self awareness to place their own egos outside the verbal repartee. Other than "look how cute these puppies are", I haven't the time or care to look for a "smart wimyn". Give me long hair, skinny and pleasant!

Anonymous TheHiss September 30, 2017 7:08 AM  

I loved the introduction about Natasha 22 who thought Jeremy Corbyn would be a good subject for conversation on a first date. She's supposed to be intelligent?

Blogger APL September 30, 2017 7:14 AM  

"combination of female solipsism with female hypergamy means that too many women now desire the logically impossible and the statistically improbable."

So much for the benefits of higher education.

Blogger Midnight Avenue J September 30, 2017 7:19 AM  

They equate degree with clever/intelligent.

Not very clever, that.

Blogger E. Burke September 30, 2017 7:29 AM  

If you wish to breed intelligent offspring, your odds are much better with a female of IQ 120 (decent university graduate) than one of IQ 100.

OpenID paworldandtimes September 30, 2017 7:31 AM  

Women don't get validation from being seen as Clever (or "smart," as they otherwise call that), just as men don't care if they're complimented on, say, being graceful.

Being Clever or Smart, in women's minds, is not a measure of someone's cognitive qualities... they don't really, truly know what that means -- because, again, they don't care. Their ego does not look for affirmation there.

Rather, "clever/smart" to modern women is a confirmation of their social rank and as such, an endorsement of their entitlement to higher-status men without the requirement to bring something of equivalent value to the table in securing the commitment of such a man.

PA

Blogger Midnight Avenue J September 30, 2017 7:31 AM  

One of the comments: "I'd imagine their ideal partner is a full length mirror."

Rofl.

In part, a love relationship can be pressure release from the workaday stresses. You come home to someone you love and a soothing environment. You talk work, politics, deal with authority and a-holes all day, you don't want lecture, debate, and disagreement. You want sweetness, peace, maybe to vent, then eat and make love so you can go back to the grind tomorrow.

I thought that these SIW didn't need no man anyway, so what are they worried about? One of the big pushes to get women into higher ed was so they could have better paying jobs and not rely on men because all men are dogs who eventually leave you high and dry anyway amirite?

Pick a damned lane!!

OpenID crapulux September 30, 2017 7:34 AM  

When I got into writing shitty fanfic a few years ago, the first thing I learned was "show, don't tell" and pack lots of information into few words.

In this regard, this article is a goldmine!

‘One date found the fact I studied from a feminist perspective offputting. Most mistakenly assume I hate men.’

Perfection: when there is nothing to add, and nothing to take away...

‘Like many arts degrees, her media and communications course...’

When I screwed a hot journalist with the same curriculum, at some point I asked "If two kilos of potatoes are worth 3€, how much is one kilo worth?" -- Got a blank stare.

"a radio documentary she recently produced on ‘the pressure that black women are under to adhere to white beauty stereotypes’. One can imagine how such a topic could be a little alienating to many men"

Again, nothing to add. I can only imagine what her BF thought. "Grocery shopping list: ballgag," probably.

The final nail in the coffin is delivered in style:

"‘superficial, self-indulgent conversation is an immediate red flag,’ she says."



OpenID crapulux September 30, 2017 7:38 AM  

Also I suggest you click on "Order comments by Best Rated."

The first one is:

"Having read the article I conclude that the men of the UK have had three lucky escapes."

With 8600 likes, no less. Please all click on the upvote button to bring it over nine thousand.

Blogger Akulkis September 30, 2017 7:43 AM  

Increasingly, education level is less ofan indicaror of intelligence than of willingness to sign onto life-long, non-dischargable, student-loan debt... Which is the very opposite of intelligence, unless it's a STEM degree.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 30, 2017 7:59 AM  

I love how they confound being "educated" with being "clever/ intelligent". As I've said many times before, I never met more stupid people than when I was getting my PhD - they all got one too in the end - it's just a mater of time (out of the workforce) and ass-kissing: school for adults.

Anonymous Dirk Gently September 30, 2017 8:03 AM  

Crapulux.

Now there's an idea. Just keep a gag on hand for the date who just won't shut up (especially if argumentative, too).
If need be, just tell her you're a Dom, since they all seem to be fascinated with BDSM these days.

Then just leave her in it, until it's time for her to leave. Then make wearing it a condition for being in your presence. If she keeps coming back, then you know she wants you enough to put up with being silenced.

Bonus -- you're training her hamster to understand the peace of silence without meaningless jibber-jabber, gossip, or utterly stupid argements about things that don't even matter.

Then take her out IN PUBLIC on a date with her gag in her mouth. If anyone asks, it's a prescribed treatment set down by a relationship counselor.

Second bonus -- pre-passing all shit-testing.

Continue for about 5 or 6 dates until she has been conditioned to keeping the jibber-jabber and pointless arguments inside her own head where they belong.

Keep the gag on your person at all times with her. If she gets out of line... Gag goes back in.

Until the hamster is tamed.

I need to field test this.

Blogger Kallmunz September 30, 2017 8:13 AM  

Why can't these wymen find love? It's because men are babies who can't handle strong independant amazing awesome woman.
Either that or she's just a bitch.

Anonymous Texas exile September 30, 2017 8:14 AM  

I've a suspicion that real high iq women, unlike this presented article, are dysgenic.

They are encouraged into post graduate and graduate studies until 28. Then caring for an infant and repeating alphabet to toddlers is mind numbing and unsatisfying.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. September 30, 2017 8:16 AM  

During my blip here on planet Earth, I've yet to encounter a woman of any level of intelligence that is equipped to understand the difference between reality and how she feels about it.

Anonymous Ages September 30, 2017 8:17 AM  

Ladies (and gentlemen for that matter): if you want intellectual stimulation, read a book. Your spouse serves a different purpose in your life.

This mindset could also be coming from the toxic sentimentality about romantic relationships in our culture. Your spouse is not supposed to fulfill your every need. Married men and women shouldn’t isolate themselves from society. It can be difficult when there are children and their needs come first, but you need to have friends outside of the four corners of your house. Join a church or hobby club of some kind.

Anonymous Peter September 30, 2017 8:17 AM  

My personal experience is that most of my marriage problems are related to having married someone significantly less intelligent.. i would love a do over, and i would find marry the smartest female engineer or scientist i can find but its been 30 years so that ship has sailed.

Anonymous DaveP. September 30, 2017 8:19 AM  

I'm not seeing any evidence here that the women involved know the difference between "educated" and "smug, self-centered, opinionated, and egotistical". Acting like an ass is acting like an ass, no matter how many degrees it does or does not come with.

I will admit the possibility that their time in academia is what has made their behavior and expectations so unpalatable.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer September 30, 2017 8:21 AM  

On point about the attitude being the problem. Engineer women love to use the intelligence excuse but most of them are just unattractive physically, selfish and bitchy. They can't ever explain why the rare attractive and kind smart girls have men flocking to them.

Anonymous Ages September 30, 2017 8:24 AM  

You come home to someone you love and a soothing environment. You talk work, politics, deal with authority and a-holes all day, you don't want lecture, debate, and disagreement. You want sweetness, peace, maybe to vent, then eat and make love so you can go back to the grind tomorrow.

There are plenty of educational films from the 1950s that teach housewives to do just that. It was a good system: you had healthy families and much more happy marriages.

But nowadays that’s “oppression” because womyn are stronk.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 30, 2017 8:29 AM  

"During my blip here on planet Earth, I've yet to encounter a woman of any level of intelligence that is equipped to understand the difference between reality and how she feels about it."

I met one once. It was just a phase, she subsequently went into psychology.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 30, 2017 8:39 AM  

"but its been 30 years so that ship has sailed."

Peter, you're still together after thirty years. I don't think you realize that your do-over would be an episode of "to wrong what once went right".

Some of the problem with "smart women" is the same as with "smart men", they trumpet it loudly, but really aren't that bright in the grand scheme of things. Vainglory, in telling yourself that you are not what you are, and are what you are not, it destroys a lot of people. This goes hand in hand with credentialism, which is identical to advertising attributes one may or may not actually possess.

That vainglorious delusionality translates directly into women being convinced that they are higher in SMV than they actually are. They try to put on those airs, and cannot psychologically cope with being disabused of them, after all, it's worked so well for the last four to eight years, why is it suddenly failing now? *Vainglory responds* It's not you dear, it's everyone else!

Anonymous Casey September 30, 2017 8:44 AM  

Looking back, I think the perfect woman has an IQ of about 87, a nice body, and hollers out "weeeeeeee!" whenever you start taking off your pants. She should prefer a tidy abode and be able to cook a bit, also.

For companionship I prefer a well bred Labrador Retriever.

Women are for sex and for doing light duty domestic chores.

Blogger Phat Repat September 30, 2017 8:45 AM  

"Andrea Gould, 41,"

Screech... stop right there. If ya ain't wifed up by 30, pref 25, it's over. Welcome to your dupe.

And then... Nor is she the only well-educated young woman...

See above... LOL But you CAN have it all! It says so right here in the feminist manifesto, see page...

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 30, 2017 8:45 AM  

"If you wish to breed intelligent offspring, your odds are much better with a female of IQ 120 (decent university graduate) than one of IQ 100."

If you wish to breed at all your odds are not only much better with the 100IQ who hasn't been to college than the 120 who has, but you're virtually inevitably going to breed something like 150%-400% as much as well.

If you can find a girl with a 120 IQ who has not been to college and/or doesn't know she's in the 120 range, that there is having your cake and eating it too, preferably before Christmas is over.

Anonymous Lara Mycroft September 30, 2017 8:50 AM  

@18

Yes.

One of my relatives constantly brags about her Ph.D., so I finally told her that some of the most vacuous people I know are Ph.D.'s, and that credentials mean nothing to me.

A horrified look crossed her face, as if she were thinking, "You mean I have to earn your respect?"

Priceless.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club September 30, 2017 8:52 AM  

I’m not claiming to be Albert Einstein

Yes you are.

Men may claim to want educated women

The voices in your head aren't real.

in the next ten to 20 years women will be smarter than men

No they won't. This article is a veritable cornucopia of false premises and flat-out delusion.

They say I’m too bright for them.

Is Publicly Stating Things That Never Happened a required course in UK unis, or just a really popular one with female students?


Andrea Gould, 41

I can instantly see two serious issues in just this name and age, and, having seen her pictures, it's three problems.

Blogger Duke Norfolk September 30, 2017 8:56 AM  

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic for Western Civ.

Feminism, the poison pill.

Anonymous wEz September 30, 2017 9:03 AM  

"Women like men who possess qualities of size".
****, there goes my love life.

Blogger RC September 30, 2017 9:03 AM  

Unless a man is smart enough to STEM, university has little to offer today. The women, living in the feminist indoctrination centers, see it for what it's not. Society could continue just fine without those boring, uneducated men, until these brights needed petrol in their car or a phone in their hand.

Mid-wit women debilitated by maleducation and fake credentials. Sad.

Blogger David September 30, 2017 9:03 AM  

The biggest problem is that none of these women are as intelligent as they imagine they are. They may be >100 IQ, but the average man won't find them genuinely intelligent, only annoying. It's a problem autistic nerds face: no one cares how smart you are if you're an insufferable prick. This is something that intelligent women learn far far too late in life.

Blogger VD September 30, 2017 9:05 AM  

It's a problem autistic nerds face: no one cares how smart you are if you're an insufferable prick.

Precisely. And they also don't understand that most people recognize their pose of aloof superiority as nothing more than a defense mechanism, and know how to puncture it at will.

Blogger James Dixon September 30, 2017 9:09 AM  

> We're just too clever to find a boyfriend!

Strange. My wife didn't seem to have a problem.

How did intelligent women manage for thousands of years, one wonders. Maybe they realized that intelligence was only one component of a good marriage?

Anonymous Casey September 30, 2017 9:11 AM  

If you plan on living on a parcel of land which totals 5 acres or so, you might need to move up to a woman with an IQ of 92, or so. Those zero turn lawnmowers can be a bit tricky.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 30, 2017 9:14 AM  

That article is nothing but click bait, look at the comments and the likes.

In the Magic Era of isms, ists and phobias nobody believes nothing, except conservative intellectuals caught in the glue trap of "liberalism."

Blogger pyrrhus September 30, 2017 9:15 AM  

These A level results sound quite fake, because men are much better at math and science than women, on average....In any event, I smell SJW attitudes creeping in here. Many women think they are smart because they have pieces of paper, but they can't actually think, and recoil in horror from someone who punctures their programming....

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 30, 2017 9:17 AM  

And those strong women need, need, need a strong muslim man of color it is their only chance, on to Rotherham strong smart womyn.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 9:18 AM  

From the article (about wanting to have "deep serious conversations" with men):
"This in turn can be intimidating for men, who often feel belittled by women who’ve outgrown them."

No, women have forgotten that men are NOT "intimidated" by smart women, they're flat-out put off by them! Women are supposed to be a refuge for their man; a 'place' where he does not have to struggle to keep up or respond. I was fortunate in learning that early on, so my late husband and I had a negotiated deal: I could talk about anything and everything, but HE was not 'required' to respond or remember. (Of course he DID remember; but -- we used to joke about me "chirping" -- "a chirping woman is a happy woman, it's the silent ones you need to worry about.")

Was it AS good for me as having "deep serious conversation" with him? No. But when I really (felt I) needed to have a deep serious conversation with him; I would ASK for one, and he would attend.

While still working this out, when I was feeling neglected and ignored -- I, one day at lunch, in exasperation, said: "I don't CARE if you read the damned phone book to me! Just TALK to me!! Tell me the damned throw weights of WWII weapons!! Make verbal noises in my direction about SOMETHING! PLEASE!" (He was a WWII expert.)

So, in HIS exasperation, he began telling me the throw weights of WWII weapons, and I listened and asked intelligent questions, and to his amazement, he found he really ENJOYED having a conversation with me about his OWN interests! (And so did I.)

This is a well-studied, should be non-controversial, truth about how men and women use 'talk' differently. Men talk to pass news/information; their 'genetic history' (more-or-less) is to sit silently together looking for prey (thus 9 hours fishing and only 3 words spoken). WOMEN chatter because we talk to create and maintain connection. So, men being silent feels like they're angry at us, and women yakking on and on feels truly 'wrong' to men (you'll scare the prey or alert the enemy)!

IF ONLY both sides understood this, they could negotiate ways to partially meet both needs!

Blogger Matthew September 30, 2017 9:20 AM  

Having an intelligent wife leads to the temptation to try and explain things.

Blogger David September 30, 2017 9:23 AM  

A degree ultimately signals status, which is highly attractive to all women. So if she has a degree, she thinks shes that much more attractive as a prospective girlfriend because that's how she'd feel if a man she talked to had a superior education to her. The reality may disappoint her, but it shouldn't: all she has to do to earn a quality husband is be sweet and pretty. Grinding through years of education will never factor into his attraction for her.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 9:24 AM  

@36 ""Women like men who possess qualities of size".
****, there goes my love life."

No, not THAT size (that's a MAN"s ranking of himself!)(well, a man's or a masculinized woman's ranking); this means his height -- women have an in-built preference for a taller man. (The rare ones happy with a shorter man notwithstanding.) If he's not taller/stronger,then he won't be a good protector. Not conscious, but VERY real.)

Blogger Johnny September 30, 2017 9:24 AM  

>>men do not know how to deal with educated women.

This could be called arrogance or attitude. Hey lady, forget the way the world should be, deal with the way it is. Many men will adjust their behavior to accommodate a women, but he has to want the women and what she can do for him to do it. When he does not want the women up front she has nothing to work with. Thus if he does not want you up front, dear lady, your complaints will never rise above the mere irritation, if indeed he even listens.

Blogger James Dixon September 30, 2017 9:27 AM  

> Andrea Gould, 41, believes her intellect has prevented her from finding love. ‘I get the impression they’d rather date a girl without a degree, said Andrea.

A degree does not equate to intellect, hon. There used to be a relationship, but that died at least 30 years ago.

And I see Midnight Avenue J and several others also noted this.

> If you wish to breed intelligent offspring, your odds are much better with a female of IQ 120...

That assumes the 120 IQ female is willing to have offspring. That's not a safe bet. Also noted by someone else.

> During my blip here on planet Earth, I've yet to encounter a woman of any level of intelligence that is equipped to understand the difference between reality and how she feels about it.

True, but a lot of men have problems with that sometimes too (most of us at one time or another). My wife seems to be fairly unique in when that it's pointed out to her that she's doing that, she recognizes it.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera September 30, 2017 9:30 AM  

Degrees and careers are the female equivalent of "compensating for something".

Blogger Dexter September 30, 2017 9:31 AM  

They;re so clever they can't get jobs with their way-awesome degrees and have to become prostitutes!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/28/adjunct-professors-homeless-sex-work-academia-poverty

The adjunct who turned to sex work makes several thousand dollars per course, and teaches about six per semester. She estimates that she puts in 60 hours a week. But she struggles to make ends meet after paying $1,500 in monthly rent and with student loans that, including interest, amount to a few hundred thousand dollars. Her income from teaching comes to $40,000 a year. That’s significantly more than most adjuncts: a 2014 survey found that the median income for adjuncts is only $22,041 a year, whereas for full-time faculty it is $47,500.
...
Mary-Faith Cerasoli, an adjunct professor of Romance languages in her 50s, revealed she was homeless and protested outside the New York state education department.

Wanna bet childless as well as homeless?

Blogger Autumn Millennial September 30, 2017 9:39 AM  

I would place myself at the same level of physical attractiveness as the long haired brunette in the article. I never bothered with getting a college degree. In fact I technically don't have a high school diploma since I was homeschooled. I was rather isolated growing up but none of this stopped me from getting married at 24 years old. I improved my social skills and ability to get a date from reading Vox Day and various manosphere writers. Nearly all my relatives thought I would go on to school because of my intelligence and love of learning. I refused, knowing that it would more than likely get in the way of finding a husband. Instead I spent my college years of 18-22 focusing on making myself wife material. I met my husband at 22 and what stood out to him was my attractiveness, my intelligence, and my smile. But more importantly my lack of b*tchness. He had even asked my male acquaintances about my attitude before dating me. They all described me as sweet. Clearly reputations DO matter. Fast forward nearly 4 years and my husband STILL tells me on a regular basis that he's thankful I'm not a b*tch.
These women are major failures if they can't (or refuse) to see that men just want a pleasant companion. Having smarts is a bonus... but not the end all be all to men.

Blogger Johnny September 30, 2017 9:43 AM  

I know a neighbor lady who got a degree after marriage. The damm heavily state sponsored university talked her into thinking she was somebody way more able then she was. And now so many years later with so much debt picked up and so little accomplished, she is still stuck with the same old deadbeat husband, and the job she picked up was to go full time on the job that was part time while she was going to school.

Blogger GraceIronwood September 30, 2017 9:47 AM  

Having taught in an academic environment where the quality of students and education has plummeted, it strikes me that a considerable percentage of these women are deluding themselves.

Anonymous Rfvujm September 30, 2017 9:48 AM  

If these women are so smart, why don't they invent a sex robot or an artificial womb? That would certainly garner attention from many men. Besides, I'm pretty sure that's what they mean when they say the future is female.

Anonymous Klaus Barbital September 30, 2017 9:55 AM  

that natasha chick should find a better use for her mouth than "interesting conversation". i have a few suggestions...

Blogger CM September 30, 2017 9:58 AM  

They do so because they want an attractive and pleasant companion, not an argumentative opponent trained by her professors to regard every conversational interaction as a formal debate.

And this is why I come here. To annoy all you poor guys so my husband isn't subjected to argumentative debate!

These women lack wisdom and wisdom is better than a degree. Want to get a man's attention? When he invites you to a bar to get you drunk, agree and then claim you misplaced your id when the waitress or bartender cards you. Can't guarantee 100% success, but we're going on 9 years with 3 kids.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs September 30, 2017 10:03 AM  

It would be interesting to know what degrees were held by the women in the article. I've worked with many women with Comp Sci degrees and most were very nice ladies. I've also worked with women with various types of Arts degrees. Almost to a one, no way on God's green earth I'd consider dating them.

Blogger Dave September 30, 2017 10:09 AM  

and with student loans that, including interest, amount to a few hundred thousand dollars.

Not an indicator of intelligence to most men.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 30, 2017 10:10 AM  

It's a problem autistic nerds face:

I was thinking these "clever" women remind me a lot of spergy men, with the tendency to latch onto "this is how it's supposed to work" and to be unwilling to apply their intelligence to figuring out how things really work and how to get what they want from reality. They accept assumptions like "time spent in class = learning" unchallenged, and then project them on others and come to stupid conclusions like "men don't appreciate learning." It's a lot like the way so many men never question assumptions like "If you want a girl, be nice to her and buy her stuff."

The 41-year-old is probably really trying to find a man by this point, and failing for obvious reasons. The 22- and 23-year-old probably don't really want anything serious yet, but girls have to have a reason for staying free and single for too long, because they still don't want to look like they can't get a man. So setting their requirements too high ("these man-children just don't stimulate my mind enough") is handy.

If a girl wants me to think she's clever: bake a pie from scratch without a recipe and without leaving a huge mess. That's beyond the abilities of most of them today.

Blogger Dexter September 30, 2017 10:11 AM  

My local bulletin board has lots of women who proudly say they have prestigious degrees (plus maybe law school as well) and are now stay at home moms.

Never seems to occur to them that they could have skipped the education part to achieve that result. Nor does it occur to them that the educational slot they used could have been given to a man who could be supporting another SAHM.

Anonymous Anonymous September 30, 2017 10:17 AM  

Vox,

Let me take this one step further: Because we don't teach young folks what women desire in men ad what men desire in women, Americans tend to assume that they are building sexual market value when they aren't.

Young men are attracted to easy-going, agreeable girlfriends. Thus, they train themselves to be easy-going and agreeable, thinking that it will raise their prospects. Women do not want that, and it's where Nice Guy Syndrome comes from.

Young women are attracted to rich, credentialled men. Not understanding that - like you said, men don't value those things in a spouse to the same degree that women do - men are attracted to fertility, rather than earnings potential, women spend their most attractive years building up academic credentials.

It's like going $50,000 in debt to learn fluent Klingon.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 30, 2017 10:22 AM  

You find so many gems in articles like this:

"Her longest relationship, for two years, was in her mid-30s with a musician. It ended because she disapproved of his use of cannabis."

So she stayed with a pothead for two years in her mid-30s when the clock was ticking, even though one of his habits was a dealbreaker for her. And she wants us to think her problem is that she's too smart?

Now do the math: 41 years old, so she's been dating for 20 years, conservatively. Her longest was 2 years, so say the average was 1 year, and she's attractive enough -- not fat -- that she hasn't had to go without a man for long stretches. So I'll guess 20 men. Ah, I see there in the article that she claims to have dated 8 -- multiply by three, you get 24. Sounds about right. Who wants next?

"After all, as Dr Elle Boag puts it: ‘...As women continue to excel, many might be better off exercising a bit more humility.’"

Ouch. When even the sympathetic female psychologist says, "You know, it'd help if you weren't arrogant bitches," that's not good.

Anonymous Kat September 30, 2017 10:23 AM  

If you'll read Jane Austen you'll find women who spoke 2-3 languages, drew, played at least one instrument, quoted literature, knew how to manage a large household with servants, etc. Yes, literature, but it seems there were some fairly high expectations for "accomplishments" back in the day - and all this in the so called dark ages before women could attend university and the like. Stack Anne Elliot up against these liberal arts geniuses and 95 out of 100 would come off looking like a fool.

Actual education for women has gone by the wayside. These women think they're so smart when their heads are only crammed with jargon.

Blogger Johnny September 30, 2017 10:25 AM  

Moving beyond the major theme here, which is the irritants men have dealing with modern women, the big social problem really is that the traditional role of women performed a needed function. And now that many women are no longer engaged in child rearing, or are producing a single offspring, our species is not longer reproducing itself. That is, except for the more primitive members of our genus.

What is a crazy disconnect is the way they worry about the future, sustainable this and sustainable that, when the society itself is not sustainable. What it amounts to, really, is that we have yet to make an adequate social adjustment to industrialization.

Blogger Phat Repat September 30, 2017 10:31 AM  

There are two peoplez in this world, those who read about it, and those who do it.

But, muh IQ. LOL

Blogger roughcoat September 30, 2017 10:32 AM  

If a girl wants me to think she's clever: bake a pie from scratch without a recipe and without leaving a huge mess. That's beyond the abilities of most of them today.

Most girls can't successfully make a pie with a recipe. And they're proud of it.

Blogger haus frau September 30, 2017 10:36 AM  

@21 "They are encouraged into post graduate and graduate studies until 28. Then caring for an infant and repeating alphabet to toddlers is mind numbing and unsatisfying."

It is highly unfortunate for these women that they have been indoctrinated out of taking satisfaction in the formation of a new individual. Unlike politics, full time motherhood is a venue where a woman has immense control, for better or worse. I would note, as well, that first time motherhood at 28 or later is more physically trying than having that baby just 5 years sooner. I had my first at 28 and then 2 more. It's more difficult physically each time. Far better to have kids when your body is the most capable of bouncing back and then getting all those worthless degrees when the kids are in their late teens.

The ladies in this article come across as borderline autistic in their lack of social acumen. I mean politics on a first date? What the hell? My husband and I have very similar political views and yet spend very, very little time talking about it because it's just depressing and not something that individuals have any control over anyway. Educated women who lack personal lives substitute politics for the gossip that women normally enjoy but that most men have limited patience for. It's really the same thing with the same male reaction of withdrawing from the interpersonal minutia women love to wallow in.

Blogger Akulkis September 30, 2017 10:38 AM  

As I heard from a prof (so PhD)
The purpose of a bachelor's degree is to impress upon the student that he doesn't know everything, and never can learn everything. The purpose of a Master's degree is to convince the degree holder that his education is still incomplete. And the purpose of a PhD is to impress upon the graduate how superior someone with a PhD is compared to other people who don't have one. Why? Because the entire system of higher education depends on it.

Blogger Timmy3 September 30, 2017 10:41 AM  

They are also more likely to believe in feminism with abortion rights ideology and the intentional delaying of kids beyond their fertility so removing them from the gene pool is almost a given regardless if they find a mate.

Blogger Phat Repat September 30, 2017 10:41 AM  

The degrees explained:
Bull$hit
More$hit
Pile high and Deep

Blogger Crave September 30, 2017 10:42 AM  

"The effects of this carry over into the workplace, where women aged from 22 to 29 typically now earn £1,111 more a year than their male peers."

I appreciate how articles like this SJW sob story inadvertently provide evidence which counters other false narratives they push. The left should celebrate their wage gap victory via discriminatory practices in the education system...but they won't.

Anonymous vfm September 30, 2017 10:44 AM  

Those unattractive in both body and mind women are a state sponsored combo of Dunning-Kruger effect and spinsterhood. Major fail.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 30, 2017 10:47 AM  

@65. Johnny, "And now that many women are no longer engaged in child rearing, or are producing a single offspring, our species is not longer reproducing itself. That is, except for the more primitive members of our genus.

What is a crazy disconnect is the way they worry about the future, sustainable this and sustainable that, when the society itself is not sustainable. What it amounts to, really, is that we have yet to make an adequate social adjustment to industrialization."


"Professing themselves to be wise they became fools."

I think our particular species was recently updated, with the discovery of homo floriensis and such, from "homo sapiens" to "homo sapiens sapiens". Translation: "Man, Wise" to "Man, Wise-Wise". I think that says pretty much everything that needs to be said on that topic.

Anonymous Ledfordbot September 30, 2017 10:48 AM  

Nerdy men who can't get dates are figures of fun, perhaps pity. Nerdy, loveless women are tragic. Probably no good way around this, eggs being more valuable than sperm.

"Since the breakdown of her most recent relationship, with a DJ ten years her senior...."

Natasha's problem isn't a shortage of smart men, there are armies of lonely eggheads. She suffers from the scarcity of monogamous DJs. He must have led her on with his critique of Heidegger before she could see through his shallowness.

Serious question: what is it with DJs?

Blogger Badmojo September 30, 2017 10:48 AM  

"Yet even more mature men fail to show the requisite enthusiasm for her university projects — which include a radio documentary she recently produced on ‘the pressure that black women are under to adhere to white beauty stereotypes’."

No kidding. But that's just good sense.

"Stunning" or not, the more mature men know they're dealing with an emotional child and are only willing to put up with so much before moving along.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. September 30, 2017 10:49 AM  

No, women have forgotten that men are NOT "intimidated" by smart women, they're flat-out put off by them!

Men are not put off by smart women, no.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine September 30, 2017 10:54 AM  

"Men are not put off by smart women, no."

They're put off by woman-child b***es, harpies, nags and scolds.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. September 30, 2017 10:58 AM  

They're put off by woman-child b***es, harpies, nags and scolds.

Certainly on the list.

During my blip here on planet Earth, I've yet to encounter a woman of any level of intelligence that is equipped to understand the difference between reality and how she feels about it.

Not incidentally, ladies, this is not an insult (quite the contrary). If you reflexively took it as one, you've got some introspecting to do.

Blogger Phat Repat September 30, 2017 11:00 AM  

Men are not put off by smart women, no.

Nope, nor unicorns.

Blogger Cail Corishev September 30, 2017 11:03 AM  

Serious question: what is it with DJs?

The real musicians are nailing the hotter, younger chicks. A DJ is the next best thing, who at least gets them access into that world?

Blogger OneWingedShark September 30, 2017 11:15 AM  

Feminism: The mode of thought that hates everything feminine.

Of course they're not sought after, men want a feminine woman not an asexual/unisex plank that hates its own very nature.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 30, 2017 11:15 AM  

1. Howard Stone September 30, 2017 6:13 AM
Where is the wisdom in that?


MWAI.

for have you not heard? college is where a young woman should go to acquire her MRS degree.


4. old man in a villa September 30, 2017 6:20 AM
And their failure at the prime directive of the human experience tells them they are clever?



mmm. you'll really enjoy the Munk panel debate over whether or not men were an evolutionary "dead end".

as a man, there's nothing quite so edifying as to be told it's time for me to "end" by a panel of women who are all past menopause ... and none of whom have any children.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 11:16 AM  

I am reminded of an article i read years ago, maybe on Jezebel. The writer, a woman with a spanking fetish, was dismayed because she couldn't find a man who would both spank her properly in the bedroom and be the equalist soyboy helpmeet her feminist education had taught her was the proper role for men elsewhere.

Men are not put off by smart women. Men are put off by women who want to demonstrate superiority. There's two possibilities; he's not as smart, and her belittling him drives him away while turning her off, or he's smarter and her pulling the intellectual one-upmanship just incredibly annoying, childish and offputting.

Blogger SJ September 30, 2017 11:18 AM  

Oh I remember being single and dating a few women with masters degrees. They were complete morons. I mean like <90 iq sub humans. With masters degrees. These women are not even remotely intelligent they just believe they are because they went into tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt to party and play at adulting. Their egos can't accept the fact that they are idiots who were played.

Oh well. Let their genes be removed. They are defective anyway. I'll be over here with my GED wife, who's smoking hot, Raven matrices a and Stanford binnet tests at 110, and has given me several beautiful white children. I didn't even have to pay off her debt for all the years of partying.

Blogger SJ September 30, 2017 11:19 AM  

Having a degree is now a sign that you are a moron. The left took over colleges so of course now they will no longer be serving their actual purpose.

Blogger Aeoli Pera September 30, 2017 11:24 AM  

CM wrote:They do so because they want an attractive and pleasant companion, not an argumentative opponent trained by her professors to regard every conversational interaction as a formal debate.

And this is why I come here. To annoy all you poor guys so my husband isn't subjected to argumentative debate!

These women lack wisdom and wisdom is better than a degree. Want to get a man's attention? When he invites you to a bar to get you drunk, agree and then claim you misplaced your id when the waitress or bartender cards you. Can't guarantee 100% success, but we're going on 9 years with 3 kids.


I need an explanation for how this is supposed to work.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 11:34 AM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:I need an explanation for how this is supposed to work.
Boobs

Anonymous Ledfordbot September 30, 2017 11:36 AM  

Cail Corishev wrote:Serious question: what is it with DJs?

The real musicians are nailing the hotter, younger chicks. A DJ is the next best thing, who at least gets them access into that world?


So it's Musician > DJ > Bouncer? Which is the best match for a lovelorn grad student? Is shooting for Musician too ambitious?

Blogger Daniel September 30, 2017 11:37 AM  

REAL SMART WOMEN know they must not patronize men. They even pretend facked sillyness. These are not smart women. Just overly bored with useless show up time in classes for useless degrees

Blogger The Chortling September 30, 2017 11:41 AM  

Pride in men or women is an ugly thing.

It's something which separates us from g
God - man, woman, degreed or uncanny genius, pride is the downfall of all. Humility is valued by God.

Blogger Lovekraft September 30, 2017 11:44 AM  

Anonymous Conservative, with the r/K selective narrative/amagdalya and all that would likely posit that the revulsion men have to the 'booksmart but world-dumb' women is deep-rooted.

Men are viewing someone who would likely betray him and his tribe.

Similar to how I've used the term 'allergic' when someone mentions #fake news/legacy media. Used this before learning about r/K.

Anonymous SanityClause September 30, 2017 11:49 AM  

Um, the problem is not that they are too smart, some of us like smart women, as we should, as it will result in smart children. The problem is that they are "educated", which is to say, they have been relentlessly propaganda-ed at for four years. Being educated in a modern college does not make you smarter or more independently minded, quite the opposite.

The problem of more women than men attending college, however, is a problem. The real problems are that only a fraction of the population is smart enough to need college, but far more than that is attending, and the "lower" schools are completely failing to teach even a fraction as well as they once did.

Blogger JDC September 30, 2017 12:04 PM  

What woman doesn't want to hear,

"Darling...you're not much to look at and quite a bitch, but I love your brashness, your strength of will, your ferocity and especially your brilliant mind!"

It makes em go woozy with the vapors I hear tell.

Blogger steve September 30, 2017 12:13 PM  

As Instapundit likes to say, "You're credentialed, not educated." Not sure why that gal thinks pinko Corbyn and the beauty struggles of black women constitute sexy ice breakers.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 30, 2017 12:14 PM  

14. Midnight Avenue J September 30, 2017 7:31 AM
Pick a damned lane!!



she said.

to a bunch of women.

who hold as an article of faith that their first and primary Privilege is to change their mind.



60. Dave September 30, 2017 10:09 AM
Not an indicator of intelligence to most men.


she's not trying to impress men, per se. she's trying to acquire Status Markers ... with which to impress other women.

much better to become Queen Bee via a simple Status Display rather than actually having to contend with other women in the rough and tumble of Mean Girls society.



75. Ledfordbot September 30, 2017 10:48 AM
Serious question: what is it with DJs?



they control the entire room, the pace and tempo of the party. further, if they wish, they can highlight particularly skilled or beautiful dancers.

ie - Social Status Marker

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) September 30, 2017 12:20 PM  

93. SanityClause September 30, 2017 11:49 AM
they have been relentlessly propaganda-ed at for four years.



seventeen. more if they went into pre-school.

Blogger Starboard September 30, 2017 12:24 PM  

There were always men and women who couldn't find spouses. They used to be called bachelors and spinsters. The women provided support to their families as aunts and governesses, and they raised the kids when the mothers died in childbirth.
A husband is not a right, and failure to find and secure a husband now has more to do with a woman making herself less attractive by feminism than by being intelligent. Spinsters now are useless to their families and communities due to feminism.
University education never used to be a high water success mark. CS Lewis said his teacher suggested that they should make an academic of him because he wasn't fit for a regular profession. These women expect material succes and a husband out of a system that was never intended to deliver those rewards. Delusional.

Anonymous Ain September 30, 2017 12:27 PM  

"‘Afterwards I’ll text to say our conversations weren’t flowing in the right direction. Most accept it although one, a company director, went on the defensive, saying I thought I was a princess,’ says Natasha."

The truth hurts.

Anonymous grayman September 30, 2017 12:32 PM  

The answers to this were obvious 2000 years ago!!!!


Aristophanes wrote The Assemblywomen in 391 BC. it is a comedic play about what would happen if women assumed control. The women immediately ban private wealth and enforce sexual equality for the unattractive. It reads like an inter-sectional co-convening of the feminist study department at any university. The play was intended to use humor to criticize the Athenian ruling class. It relied on the basic understanding of the female mind and on the widely held understanding that you can never put women in charge.

Anonymous BBGKB September 30, 2017 12:36 PM  

Would any smart man date a feminist?

Andrea (((Gould))), 41, believes her intellect has prevented her from finding love

Oy vey my aging eggs and sagging tits come with a Masters degree in music that got me a cyber security job.

‘One date found the fact I studied from a feminist perspective offputting. Most mistakenly assume I hate men.’

Perfection: when there is nothing to add, and nothing to take away


She could have added that she lectured him until he gaye up.

I’m not claiming to be Albert Einstein. Yes you are.

There is no one more overrated in history than Einstein, who stole relativity like Cuckberg stole facebook.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 12:36 PM  

Ain wrote:"‘Afterwards I’ll text to say our conversations weren’t flowing in the right direction. Most accept it..."
Most write you off as a lousy companion and probably a bad lay.

OpenID crapulux September 30, 2017 12:43 PM  

@19 Dirk Gently

I dated this Strong, Independent Woman (by day).

Smooching the pillow on her face during the action triggered her orgasms without fail.

The women in this article should consider this treatment. It's much more fun than going to a bluepill shrink.

Blogger Ned September 30, 2017 1:24 PM  

One woman I met who seems to fit into this category - that is, relating only to the SJW Prozis who "educated" her - didn't understand that one professor had actually used CIA mind control techniques on her. She didn't have the intellectual capacity to even fathom a different point of view. She just categorized people with opposing viewpoints with a label. She couldn't even debate a point on the merits, yet she was "special."

Naturally, she was also an "educator."

Most of these types of women I've met equate years of skool learnin to IQ. Now, many are just cat ladies, who probably don't even like the cat.

Blogger JDC September 30, 2017 1:40 PM  

Teach your sons to identify these women immediately and to summarily dismiss them as one would a petulant child. The problem however is this will cause said harpy to publicly denounce while secretly desiring.

Anonymous Jack Amok September 30, 2017 1:43 PM  

This article is also a great illustration of Vox's admonition don't talk to reporters, they're not your friends.

The woman who write this got in some quality shots:

"In the event, Becca ended the relationship because, she says, he was always at work — an unfortunate fact of life many of us might sympathise with, but one Becca intends to put off for much of her 20s by doing a PhD in disability research after her masters."

Blogger DonReynolds September 30, 2017 1:59 PM  

If someone is actually interested in what happens when there is an imbalance in the number of males and females, just take a look at the black community. So many males have been incarcerated or killed or physically disabled, there is actually a Man Shortage. You can examine in detail what happens when there is gender imbalance. Now exaggerate that imbalance by having a significant number of the males going outside their own race for dating and mating. Now exaggerate it a little more by having more black women in school longer and black women being more employable and the men end up being not much more than sperm donors.

Before you begin to think this is a black thing and cannot be compared to white society, please reconsider. Cosmopolitan magazine has been polling females for decades about what they want in the way of a man. They want an Alpha man who is taller, stronger, healthier, more intelligent, more educated, that makes more money, and is older than themselves (but not by too much)....who will surrender all that "superiority" to let her have "at least half" the say in the relationship. (Better still, if he jumps when she snaps her fingers and does what he is told to do.) After all, she has the ultimate monopoly....so she thinks. Personally, I do not know many men, especially Alphas, that would make such a one-sided deal.

With more and more old maids going to college and graduate school, the long term effect is not going to be what they expect. They honestly believe that a 4 or a 5 female can become a 10 if she has a law degree or one in medicine. Unfortunately, such degrees only manage to move the goal posts. Now finding the "superior man", that they are entitled to, becomes even more difficult, while their biological clock is spinning out of control. Of course, children are just waaaay too expensive for a woman making six figures. Her role in the not-so-atomic family unit becomes that of another daddy breadwinner, but if children are necessary....we can always just adopt.

No matter what women WANT or think they WANT, their WANTS and WISHES become nothing more if they cannot make the deal with a man. But men are increasingly finding marriage to be a bad investment with enormous financial losses attached to them....even if they do nothing wrong. The carnage has been frightful for decades and men are not entirely stupid. They do notice these things.

Anonymous Pennywise September 30, 2017 2:05 PM  

Millions of American men tend to value intelligence in a woman, as it offers a more statistical likelihood their offspring will be of a higher IQ. It could be possible women with degrees will be difficult for men to handle, but that does not prohibit men today to pursue such women nor avoid them, as evident by marriage rates amongst degreed females in their 30’s are higher compared to less degreed females. The less-educated a woman, the less they are getting married.

So a women’s self-reliance has not rejected the institution of matrimony, it is simply defining it, as is the case with technologically and socially advanced societies. And certainly not every nor even most conversations between men and women are armed verbal conflicts; it is clear today’s American men are attracted to women whom they personally deem worthy of their attention, whether it be level of attractiveness, earning potential, or smarts, even if one of those attributes is superior in nature to their own.

Of course, those men and women who have yet to marry today, whether it be the man demands a woman to be subservient or whether it be the woman insists a man recognize their intelligence, are putting themselves in harm's way to remove themselves permanently from the gene pool.

As far as those men who believe the perfect woman is a able to bake a cake from scratch with a blindfold on and simply cater to their every whim, like women who make similar ideas of perfection, they are today’s outliers. I would surmise that these men and women have their own relationship foibles. Unfortunately, they neglect to recognize their pose of aloof superiority is a defense mechanism, which in this day and age is able to easily be smashed into oblivion. And if a woman who is 18-22 chooses not to go college and focuses on improving themselves to become “wife material”, that is wonderful. But her decision is only one path for her to find a prospective mate. Now if men seek a female with room temperature IQ and serves them quiche on command, that’s also fine. Just realize that this ideal female i not the absolute standard all men must adhere to. That's why it's hilarious when manosophists construct strict boxes that all men must check, lest men be labeled cucks or gammas for making their own choice as to what constitutes manliness; I mean, they themselves are generally ruining Western Civilization with their "pump and dump" mentality.

In the end, “real marriage” is simply marriage as defined by the couple.

Blogger LP9 September 30, 2017 2:22 PM  

"So, it should come as no surprise that these intelligent, educated women have found neither romance nor love, have not married, and most likely, have inadvertently removed themselves from the gene pool."

Given the rates of unhappiness they were to clever to be happy, landed up in misery because they were led astray into (evil) stupidity; (evil) feminism never ever worked.

Really, be wary of an careerist, credentialist with that sneer and cynic spirit. Most men are still smarter than those women acting like they know more.

It is wonderful Vox with so many others (here) are so talented, so erudite brilliant people, my loyalty remains here to thank those that helped me.

Anonymous Jonathan September 30, 2017 2:31 PM  

<67> "Most girls can't successfully make a pie with a recipe. And they're proud of it."

It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook. It's a badge of honor. All adults should be able to prepare some basic meals.

Anonymous Ledfordbot September 30, 2017 2:37 PM  

((( bob kek mando ))) - ( i'm sorry you raped Andrea Dworkin and i disavow your Patriarchal Cisheteronormative Bourgeois Consciousness in shame ) wrote:

75. Ledfordbot September 30, 2017 10:48 AM

Serious question: what is it with DJs?



they control the entire room, the pace and tempo of the party. further, if they wish, they can highlight particularly skilled or beautiful dancers.

ie - Social Status Marker


How much education does a gal need to land a hawt DJ? Would a mere Education BA do it, or will she need to go to law school? Guidance counselors want to know.

Blogger DonReynolds September 30, 2017 2:37 PM  

@71 Phat Repat wrote:The degrees explained:

Bull$hit

More$hit

Pile high and Deep


A professor I worked with explained it rather well.

In undergrad, everything is taught as an absolute....2 + 2 = 4. Now get that through your thick head and be prepared to repeat it on the next exam.

For the masters degree, they back off of the absolute facts of life and create an element of variability or uncertainty.....2 + 2 TENDS to be 4. The average may actually be 4, but it may be a little more or a little less, but it is nothing to worry about, and it would be a good topic for your thesis, whether it tends to be more than 4 or less than 4, and not get bogged down in measurement or sampling techniques.

For the doctorate, everyone must specialize rather narrowly, while being expected to answer questions about anything written in the field....2 + 2 IS 4.....but that is a Special Case, that only happens under a set of assumptions that nobody questions. Now it is OK for you to question and challenge and test the assumptions, so we can WHAT IF this thing to death and tweak the details and decompose the simultaneous and sequential effects all separately; with pressure points, saddle points, and market segments.

Anonymous Jeff September 30, 2017 2:51 PM  

"IQ Shredders"
http://www.xenosystems.net/iq-shredders/

Blogger Scott C September 30, 2017 2:52 PM  

I'll never forget the moment my ex (an architect) told me that she wouldn't continue dating me because I don't have a degree. Perhaps that wasn't the real reason, but it's what she said, so who knows.

She actually told me: "I want to date someone who can do something no one else can do." I told her that was like rejecting a beautiful woman because she isn't Miss Universe.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents September 30, 2017 3:14 PM  

@108 Creepy Clown Concern Troll

Teh triggering! Tell us more what a smart girl you are, ok?

Anonymous AB.Prosper September 30, 2017 3:16 PM  

The first question any man should ask when dating a woman is "What's in it for me?"

I'd be hard pressed to see what any of these women offers to a perspective mate.

A wants a wife, mother for his children and a lover , not a rival

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 3:23 PM  

@77 "the more mature men know they're dealing with an emotional child and are only willing to put up with so much before moving along."

On the other hand, for the women who recognizeE (even if we don't much like it intellectually) that we ARE essentially "children" and so we choose to work hard to be well-behaved, clean and pretty, charming, and useful children, who respect and love our mate and follow his lead, or negotiate without a temper tantrum, we can have a fantastic marriage with a man who provides for us, protects us, and cherishes us! (Dr. Pat Allen's term and useful concept.)

We are (supposed to be) the counter-balance to the man's seriousness, abilities, and willingness to fight -- and if necessary die -- for his family and his tribe. The yin to his Yang. The feminine energy to his masculine energy. NOT a competitor but a complement!

I used to suggest to my 'advisees' that -- like the 'tai chi,' the Chinese symbol with the black and white halves and with the 'seed' of the other in the head -- a strong Yang man needs a strong yin woman,not a weak yin woman! He doesn't want a weak sister NOR a strong Yang woman; he wants his other half, his complement! She must be AS strong in her area as he is in his; but she should not try to be as strong in his area; that is SO unattractive! (If he wants a buddy, he'll go find another man or a dog!)

(Metaphorically: If he's a great engineer, it behooves you to be a great pie maker -- with or without a recipe!)

Anonymous Stickwick September 30, 2017 3:23 PM  

Jonathan: It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook. It's a badge of honor.

I don't get that. It's like bragging that you don't know how to use utensils or how to drive a car. And these dippy gals are depriving themselves of one of the great joys in life, which is to prepare lovely meals for those you love.

Now, it must be said, pie is tricky, because it's all about getting the crust right. You want it to be flaky, not heavy, but substantial enough to hold the contents of the pie. Well, I finally found a recipe for pie crust that is genius. Wanna know what it is?

The trick is to substitute vodka for the water. You need water to activate the gluten in the flour, but too much water makes the crust heavy. OTOH, not enough water, and the dough is dry and a pain to roll out. Here's where science comes in: vodka is only 60% water, so it'll still activate the gluten, it's enough liquid to make the dough beautifully pliable, but it won't be heavy.

Anonymous Iron Spartan September 30, 2017 3:25 PM  

"Too clever" almost always means "snarky and bitchy."

"Educated" means "head full of useless knowledge with no bearing or application to real life."

"Stimulating conversation" means "pat me on the head for saying things nobody else cares about." There is no difference between them prattling on about something they liked in their art class and their less credentialed counterparts gushing over a soap opera or the latest MTV trainwreck.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 3:25 PM  

@77 "Men are not put off by smart women, no."

(I meant "smart' as in that article's definitions. Not ACTUALLY smart women. Women who self-describe as 'smart' as against the men around them... you know: academics and feminists)!

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 3:26 PM  

@81 "Serious question: what is it with DJs?"

It's the control, the impression given of mastery. The crowd looking up at him...

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents September 30, 2017 3:36 PM  

@108 Creepy Clown Concern Troll

Triggered from the first paragraph. Verified as female. Probably not married.

Blogger Chent September 30, 2017 3:53 PM  

@Jonathan.

"It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook. It's a badge of honor."

It's a status marker. I am not a traditional woman, I am an intelligent, smart independent career woman, hear me roaar!

The same way, when I was living in the States and I saw a Latino immigrant with dark skin and indigenous face, I tried to speak in Spanish with him (being Catalan, I am native in Catalan and Spanish). He/she often answered: "I don't speak Spanish!" with a mocking intonation. Then I told him in Spanish: "But your work proves you are a loser and always will". You could feel his anger and the efforts he made to hide it, because, in theory, he couldn't understand me. LOL. Good times.

Blogger lowercaseb September 30, 2017 4:16 PM  

Autumn Millennial wrote:Having smarts is a bonus... but not the end all be all to men.

Just make sure to pass that lesson onto your kids as well. Your story makes an old Xer proud. You and your husband are making this country great.

Yeah...I'm a cheerleader, but good works deserve public praise.

Blogger RobertT September 30, 2017 4:19 PM  

Natasha, rest assured. Education has no bearing on intellect. It does, however, have a bearing on self esteem.

Blogger Abdul September 30, 2017 4:46 PM  

@68 Autism in women is very underreported and would make these women so much happier if they knew what they were dealing with. The staggering numbers of autistic women in the sex trade (and their high tech pimps making money off them) should tell you something.

Anonymous tublecane September 30, 2017 4:52 PM  

This is all about status, not intelligence. See how they conflate intelligence and education throughout the article. Of course, there is some relation between the two, though not a strict one. Per the Bell Curve we have a class system based on I.Q. If these women have the right sort of credentials and the correct jobs, most men will be below their station. That's a statistical fact. They're not attracted to lowly men, all things being equal. (Though obviously if the gutter trash possessed other qualities, like bad boyishness, they're all-in.)

But higher social class and the intelligence that goes along with it is not attractive to men as such. They're sexes value different things, surprise, surprise. Like any human being, men are most comfortable with people around their own level of intelligence. But intelligence doesn't turn them on. It doesn't turn them off, as with tallness, ugliness, fatness, or sluttiness. But there are things associated with intelligence that hurt women's chances. Especially intelligence as shaped by our culture, which in the case of women too often molds them into shrews and cranks. Spending years at college and climbing the career ladder don't help youth, beauty, and innocence.



This is really no different than all the "Where have all the good men gone?" laments you've heard from women all your life. I've seen a hundred articles on "I can't find a good man because I've been through thousands of dicks," or, "I can't find a good man because they're too busy living in their mom's basement playing video games (while I work my way through thousands of alpha dicks)." If they're were the same number of men in the world but only two women, and one landed the most desirable male, the other would complain about not being able to find a man.

They're sad, in a way. But they're also infuriating, because these women are merely complaining about not being able to find the better sort of man. Try being an Omega male, who can't find any women at all. That's when instead of complaining to your gal pals over bottles of Merlot, you stay unemployed for years, zonk out on opioids every night, then off yourself.

They can't help themselves, I know. They're hypergamists, as you say. By definition most of the male population is below their standards. Wouldn't much matter if they were at the top of the woman pyramid, though they'd still bitch. But if they're in the middle or below, they're going to get jerked around by high-value guys and have their time wasted by men they're not attracted to. Throw in the fact that female entry into the rat race has displaced the social standing many men would otherwise have attained, as well as lowering successful women's value for the men to whom they're attracted, and it's a vicious cycle.

I won't deny that Current Year culture disincentivizes male ambition to a civilizationally disastrous degree. Which makes many men seem "undateable" to women with certain social attainments. However, about intelligence, I might point out men are not afraid of a woman with a brain, or whatever it is they think. I especially like the "they don't know how to handle us" line of thought. They do know. They're handling it by avoiding you, because you're probably unpleasant. Or at least not worth the time of the ones with options.




Anonymous Aeoli Pera September 30, 2017 4:52 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:I need an explanation for how this is supposed to work.
Boobs


Still not getting it. I understand it's probably obtuseness on my part, please explain anyway.

Blogger Abdul September 30, 2017 4:54 PM  

@85 A group of library science students used to keep be around for entertainment, computer tech support, and occasionally pot. I learned more about SJWs from them (mostly from their smug, their feigned intelligence) and it’s served me well over the years when dealing with acedemic types.

Anonymous tublecane September 30, 2017 5:00 PM  

I'd like to point out that men are still more intelligent than women, both at the higher end and on average. The more women push men out of academia and other areas of (supposedly) higher culture, the smarter they'll pretend they are. It's gonna get really insulting soon.

Is it possible they truly can't read intelligence outside of credentials, career attainment, and class-identifying shibboleths? Yes, possibly. They're not as smart as us, as I said.

I doubt a woman could discover an intelligent grease monkey or layabout as well as racist British imperialists spotted the mathematical genius of Ramanujan, for instance.

Anonymous tublecane September 30, 2017 5:13 PM  

@15-"'superficial, self-indulgent conversation is an immediate red-flag,' she says"

This quote jumped out at me, too. Because if it's a "red flag" indicating the man being too stupid for you, then every woman ever is to stupid for every man ever.

But here, as with the rest of the article, we're pretending to talk about intelligence when we're really talking about something else. Superficial, self-indulgent talk is feminine. Women aren't attracted to feminine conversation in men. Men are supposed to sweep them off their feet conversationally. Or, failing that, state at their lips while they prattle on, then ravage them when their lips stop moving.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit September 30, 2017 5:24 PM  

Pennywise wrote:Millions of American men tend to value intelligence in a woman, as it offers a more statistical likelihood their offspring will be of a higher IQ.

FAIL

Just Google "regression to the mean". (lol as if poundfoolish actually wants to educate itself)

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 5:34 PM  

Aeoli Pera wrote:Still not getting it. I understand it's probably obtuseness on my part, please explain anyway.
Man: "Imma get you drunk and then **** you"
Woman: "Gosh, I forgot my ID [bats eyes] i guess I don't get to drink tonight. Tell me about your work."

Anonymous tublecane September 30, 2017 5:34 PM  

The saddest thing, probably, is that we're probably talking 100-120 IQ women, here. People smart enough to be annoyed by advertising and Transformers movies, with the monumental intellectual achievement of reading 10-50 above-Twilight level books annually. With writing skills sharp enough to compete in the world of internet commenting, and math skills impressive enough to balance their checkbooks.

The article might as well be, "The men who return my phone calls after banging me bring in a lower annual salary than I'd prefer," or, "I wish the men who hit on me were half a foot taller." But then we wouldn't have to see through them. It'd be apparent. Then we could say either lower your standards or improve yourself. Not intellectually, but in areas men actually care about.

Instead, we focus on the men. It's their problem. Men they'd prefer to fall for them, which by definition is a fraction of the male population, are "intimidated" into seeking younger fitter, prettier, and pleasanter females.

Anonymous tublecane September 30, 2017 5:56 PM  

@112-That's certainly not true about the undergraduate level. They may have rudimentary things to drill into your head, because apparently publik edyukashun can't manage it in 12 years. But they start in on "everything you think you know is a lie" and "it's, like, all relative, man" right away.

At least they did when I went to school, which was at a mid-level state university.

Anonymous Kat September 30, 2017 6:23 PM  

Stickwick wrote:Jonathan: It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook. It's a badge of honor.

I don't get that. It's like bragging that you don't know how to use utensils or how to drive a car. And these dippy gals are depriving themselves of one of the great joys in life, which is to prepare lovely meals for those you love.

Now, it must be said, pie is tricky, because it's all about getting the crust right. You want it to be flaky, not heavy, but substantial enough to hold the contents of the pie. Well, I finally found a recipe for pie crust that is genius. Wanna know what it is?

The trick is to substitute vodka for the water. You need water to activate the gluten in the flour, but too much water makes the crust heavy. OTOH, not enough water, and the dough is dry and a pain to roll out. Here's where science comes in: vodka is only 60% water, so it'll still activate the gluten, it's enough liquid to make the dough beautifully pliable, but it won't be heavy.


Using lard or half/half lard and butter will also improve your crusts. Haven't tried the vodka trick, but when I'm in practice I can make a gorgeous crust without it. It's staying in practice in an age of diets and health fads that's a problem.

Anonymous SomeTechAnonFag September 30, 2017 6:53 PM  

I think the explanation is much simpler than that. Since when did colleges educate you? Not in this generation and not the last one either. Colleges primarily serve as deeducation/indoctrination camps. I can see why a man would not want that from a woman and I can see why a woman would not want that from a man.

All the really intelligent people are sidestepping taking on 5-6 figures of debt a year at the beginning of their adult lives in favor of getting the necessary skills for whatever higher fields they want at a much lower cost and without the time wasting fluff. Consider also the propensity for "education" handing out participation trophies at any level so even the useful skills that slip in need not be mastered and thus a "graduate" isn't necessarily smart even if they resisted libtard brainwashing during their younger and formative years.

Put simply, people with poor judgment and a greatly over inflated sense of their own importance and capabilities are not attractive in any sense of the word.

Blogger Rough Carrigan September 30, 2017 7:04 PM  

#45, Avanlanche. You're almost directly describing a book by Deborah Tannen called "You Just Don't Understand" which, boiled down to a sentence said that men engage in report talk while women engage in rapport talk.

Blogger James Dixon September 30, 2017 7:12 PM  

> The purpose of a bachelor's degree is to impress upon the student that he doesn't know everything, and never can learn everything.

The historical goal of a bachelor's degree was to educate you to the point you could continue your education on your own if you wanted/needed to.

> It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook.

Especially with canned vegetables and ready made meals so available. I've noticed Walmart carries a line of slow cook meals ready to dump in a crock pot. Seriously, dump, add water, turn on crock for 8 hours while away at work. That's all there is to it. I may have to try them out this winter.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 7:22 PM  

@110 "It amazes me how many young women brag about not being able to cook. It's a badge of honor. All adults should be able to prepare some basic meals."

It may be generational. *I* did not learn to cook (beyond basic meals) because *I* was 100% committed that I was NOT going to end up as some man's house servant! My husband used to say:

The lower class man makes a slave of his wife.
The middle class man becomes a servant TO his wife
The upper class man captures slaves or hires servants FOR his wife.

One of the reasons I married him is he said that just because he married me did NOT mean I became a house servant! (Granted, he was a most unusual warrior/aristocratic man, living behind (((enemy))) lines.)

My parents both worked the same hours teaching at the same high school; they came home at the same time and then HE SAT DOWN -- and she still sad child care, house care, and feeding and looking after the boarders. Such an example made clear to me I was better off (educated and) NOT married, than married to man who thought he had married a servant!

I seem to see a lot of men here who expect that. Is it feminism to expect that I don't become a servant merely because I marry a man? Or is it that Western civ. has raised so many 'families' well above lower class, so that expecting an intelligent woman to happily become the house servant is not likely to succeed? (At least for her?)

Blogger Cail Corishev September 30, 2017 7:23 PM  

How much education does a gal need to land a hawt DJ?

How long does it take to learn how to twerk?

Now, it must be said, pie is tricky,

True. I didn't say she has to be able to make a good pie. It's more about the fact that she's willing to do it, and isn't lost in the kitchen. Fried chicken with potatoes and gravy made from the drippings would also be acceptable.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 7:29 PM  

And yet -- I stunned the neighbor's 18-yr-old son one day, as my husband was out mowing in the 95-degree, 90% humidity South, as was this kid. I came out, as I always did, with paper towels (for him to wipe off) and a glass of ice water (for his health) for my beloved husband -- and this kid was amazed and wanted to know "how do you get her to DO that?!"

I answered: "he takes SUCH good care of me that I am happy to do this for him. It's little enough return for how well he treats me."

HE never expected me to be his servant and 'make him a sammiche' -- so I was pleased and honored to 'pay him back' by seeing to his ease and comfort (including that sammiche if he wanted one!) -- in whatever small ways he would let me.

How do any of you "expect" to earn such a reward from your wives if you view her as the house servant who should not be educated or indulged?

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot September 30, 2017 7:41 PM  

The featured one, with a little personality engineering, some lessons in how to be fun to be around, and perhaps a little hair dye could become a younger Lalla Ward ... if she'd dial down that chip on her shoulder to 0 or 1.

The others, on the other hand, have me wondering where God's bag of spanners has been finding itself, and I suspect we now have some solid answers ...

Anonymous SomeTechAnonFag September 30, 2017 7:47 PM  

Article written: 9/25/17.
5 days later: "We are no longer accepting comments on this article."
Meanwhile the comments blasting the article have thousands of recommended votes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 7:58 PM  

Avalanche wrote:Is it feminism to expect that I don't become a servant merely because I marry a man? Or is it that Western civ. has raised so many 'families' well above lower class, so that expecting an intelligent woman to happily become the house servant is not likely to succeed?
No, it is unbelievable narcissism to believe you are not a servant.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 8:05 PM  

@137 " You're almost directly describing a book by Deborah Tannen called "You Just Don't Understand"

Yes, of course, Deborah Tannen, and Dr Pat Allen, and Dr. Terrance Real and Suzette Hayden Elgin (avoid her feminist sci fi books , but her "Gentle Art of Verbal Self Defense" series is fantastic!) ... there are tons of excellent books on how women can begin to recover themselves from the ravages of feminism!

Anonymous Pennywise September 30, 2017 8:07 PM  

Simply put, men who insist that women engage squarely in domestic tasks and women who demand that men demonstrate deference to their independence streak exercise extremely poor judgement and an overly inflated sense of worth. Both are equally other than attractive. Indeed, men and women prefer to date a person similar to their intelligence, but in a number of instances, a person's IQ does serve to flood one's amygdala. Current culture continues to push men, albeit in fewer numbers, to obtain a degree, and those men without a college diploma may appear to be "undatable". But a number of my blue collar buddies never had much difficulty landing women who graduated from university--they had the requisite work ethic, looks, and savior faire to date them and marry them. They never had to be concerned about their wife being a rival, nor be having her youth, beauty, and innocence wrecked by the experiences at college--they simply wouldn't have dated them in the first place.

Anonymous Avalanche September 30, 2017 8:08 PM  

@144 "No, it is unbelievable narcissism to believe you are not a servant."

So, you're suggesting my HUSBAND was narcissistic about ME not being a servant? Interesting convolution you've got going there!

Anonymous Daniel H September 30, 2017 8:23 PM  

Intellectual women, hmmmm. I'll bet not one of these women quoted can pass first year Calculus or Chemistry. Some intellect.

Anonymous Just another commenter September 30, 2017 8:27 PM  

Most guys I know can deal with smart and/or educated women just fine. It's the highly credentialed and badly miseducated women that are the problem.

Anonymous Daniel H September 30, 2017 8:33 PM  

You know, women will benefit more from reading Roosh and Chateau Heartiste than men do. I am going to start recommending these two masters to women. I will be doing them and the world a favor.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf September 30, 2017 8:36 PM  

My friend recently divorced (her husband was a real creep) but now she complains she cannot meet someone smart enough, even though in my opinion, she's not really above average in intelligence. But she is degreed. I think the qualification has sort of gone to her head.

Anonymous Daniel H September 30, 2017 8:45 PM  

I'm a Catholic. Baptized, raised and still regard myself as a Catholic. I still believe that Catholic marriage is an eternal union (excluding cases that can be honestly annulled). I have to say, though, one tool to keep women in line is the threat, "Hey, if you don't like the way things are, there's the fuckin' door." Yes, I will subsequently live in sin, but I have so many sins swirling around my soul that one or two more won't make much of a difference. Women must be controlled, with a firm manly hand, and this control must start right from the get-go of a relationship. If a woman refuse to buck under legitimate, loving and fair discipline, can't be controlled, well, over there's the door madame. This is how to make the world a little bit of a better place.

Blogger WynnLloyd September 30, 2017 8:57 PM  

Now that's a biting truth right there. A little depressing, but absolute truth.

Anonymous Just another commenter September 30, 2017 9:15 PM  

I wonder how many of them would understand the joke / reference if you told them "As a potential wife, you have One Job. Just. One. Job."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 30, 2017 10:07 PM  

Avalanche wrote:So, you're suggesting my HUSBAND was narcissistic about ME not being a servant?
Nice deflection. Everyone is a servant. Everyone is, in fact, a slave. You don't get opt out, you get to choose your master. You seem to be a slave to your inflated sense of self-worth. Deal with it.

Anonymous Texas exile September 30, 2017 10:31 PM  

To confirm, many men, especially high iq men filter for high iq women. For one it's at least a subconscious if not conscious fitness marker. Additionally communicating across iq gaps is taxing to most egg heads. Plus it makes many joint tasks, especially future time orientation tasks (caveats aside) generally easier.

And your reversion to the mean studies deal with large population pools, but if the wife comes from a sub population (family line or clan) with a history of high iqs you greatly increase your chances of your progeny being above average iq. Even if most of the kids have reverted below you.

Blogger Rough Carrigan September 30, 2017 10:49 PM  

Let's be honest about the whole cleaning side of the domestic activities issue. Women care more about the house being clean than men do. Yet, if what is the minimum necessary amount of cleaning is this (holds one hand at knee height) and what a man is comfortable with is this (holds hand thigh high) but what a woman is comfortable is this (holds hand at shoulder height) then anything a man does to get beyond that degree of clean that satisfied him is a gift to her. But the feminist doctrine of perpetual aggrievement teaches a woman to carp that he didn't do just as much as her to the last possible decimal point of measurement. If it could be admitted that men and women are not the same it might be admitted that they might typically have somewhat different values. I wouldn't be surprised if Andrea Gould, shortly after launching into a scintillating regurgitation of a magazine article on Corbyn tells would be suitors that they'd better do just as much of the cleaning as her.

Blogger Lazarus September 30, 2017 10:51 PM  

Daniel H wrote:. If a woman refuse to buck under legitimate, loving and fair discipline, can't be controlled, well, over there's the door madame. This is how to make the world a little bit of a better place.

That is all well and good , as long as there are no babies yet. Then you are funked

Anonymous Jill September 30, 2017 11:49 PM  

The natural interplay between men and women is lost on so many moderns. It doesn't take intelligence per se, but it is a meeting of soul or mind or...something. For intelligent people, it's clever and witty. Smugness doesn't allow for such fun. Be natural (and moral) and life will be good. Underneath all the garbage, moderns still need this goodness.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother September 30, 2017 11:59 PM  

Women should just give up debating or arguing on this post. Anything you say can and will be used as evidence that this post is right on. You can't win. Just admit it and go make us a sandwich.

Anonymous tublecane October 01, 2017 1:21 AM  

@113-Report versus rapport, is that the hunter-gatherer divide?

Men need to stay quiet on the hunt, and only report on what's necessary to know. When they get home they're tired and want to eat, sleep, and you-know-what.

Women chatter amongst eachother to pass the time, maybe scare predators away, to teach children, and play their little social games. They have emotions to unpack on their men, who don't care, when they come home. That way they'll be ready to wind up and do it all again the next day.

Anonymous tublecane October 01, 2017 1:23 AM  

@161-Sorry, that was supposed to be directed @137.

Blogger Buybuydandavis October 01, 2017 1:28 AM  

Desillusionerad wrote:
But that's how it is if you are a clever moderately handsome fellow at uni these days, there are after all basically 2 women for every man.


Surf City, here we come.

Blogger Buybuydandavis October 01, 2017 1:54 AM  

The article is COMEDY GOLD.

The "intellectual" smugness. The condescension. The entitlement. The credulousness.

The best jokes are the unintentional ones. They're playing it completely straight, cause they just don't know.

Blogger Buybuydandavis October 01, 2017 2:31 AM  

CM wrote:
These women lack wisdom and wisdom is better than a degree.


If they only lacked wisdom, they'd be better off. What they have instead, and plenty of it, is AntiWisdom. They've been indoctrinated *against* every bit of wisdom handed down from the past.

Anonymous Luke October 01, 2017 8:14 AM  

Stupid broads. I don't even consider non-STEM college degrees to count at all (and any degree put out by a college of Education or ethnic/gender/sexuality studies to count as (-1) degrees, wiping out one legitimate degree). If your degree didn't involve Calculus, direct medical care (e.g., no paperwork/managerial medical WOT), or using tools in non-climate-controlled environments, IMO you probably shouldn't even put it on most resumes.

Blogger James Dixon October 01, 2017 10:12 AM  

> Nice deflection. Everyone is a servant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtIEYjNZgiU

Blogger Artisanal Toad October 01, 2017 10:53 AM  

Avalanche and Pennywise...

In order to understand the real problem, y'all have to understand what happened in the beginning.

Eve was the superstar of all women, the greatest woman who ever lived. Created by God with no sin nature, she lived in paradise and walked with her husband and God in the cool of the evening. She was naked and unashamed. She had no job, no kids to chase, no house to clean, no cell phone, no internet, no facebook and didn't even have to cook, just pick stuff off the tree and eat it. In all of that she had exactly ONE RULE she had to follow. She knew what it was too, because she quoted it to the serpent. But, the serpent lied to her and later she thought about it and her solipsism kicked in and she ate the fruit.

Later came the judgment. What do you do with someone who, at the top of their game, under perfect conditions, with no distractions... cannot obey even one simple rule... and because they can't follow even one rule they wreak havoc?

That's a serious question.

The answer is they are brought before a judge who declares them incompetent and appoints a guardian to take responsibility for them.

Which is exactly what God did. Genesis 3:16 is a judgment and must be taken within the context of the act in order to understand it.

To the woman God said "he shall rule over you."

Adam was already in authority over Eve and that's proven by the creation story (woman was created specifically to be man's helper, not his partner) and the fact that Eve was not credited with the first sin even though she was the first to violate God's commandment. The first sin didn't occur until Adam violated God's commandment because Eve was under Adam's authority. So, if the man was already in authority over the woman, what does it mean when God said "he shall rule over you"?

For that, go to Numbers 30 and what you need to keep in mind is the idea that a guardian is responsible for the behavior of his ward. Y'all really need to read the whole chapter. Perhaps several times. The virgin and the married woman have no agency. It isn't until they are no longer bound in marriage that they gain agency.

And nothing changed in the New Testament.

Genesis 3:16 is the context of Ephesians 5:22-24, which says the husband is the head (ruler) of his wife in the same way Christ is the head (ruler) of the church and the wife is commanded to submit to her husband as if he were Christ. God does not change and neither do women. From the time of Eve women have been incompetent to manage their own affairs and require a man to take responsibility for them. Why? Because God said so.

You might not believe in God or believe His Word, but all you have to do is look around to see the truth of women's incompetence.

Blogger Michael Maier October 01, 2017 5:10 PM  

Artisanal Toad October 01, 2017 10:53 AM

Created by God with no sin nature"


Really? And yet she disobyed?

Blogger Thomas Howard October 01, 2017 5:42 PM  

The rarest, and most valuable, aspect of a woman's intellect is not mentioned at all in the article. Good judgement is the key to a happy wife/happy life. Trying to make a happy life with a woman whose judgement could be classified as typical by today's standards could be classified as a losing proposition. All of the women in the article share this fault, clearly. A boat with oarsmen paddling incongruently has little chance of reaching a happy destination. A woman who can exercise good judgement of her own, or better yet, defer to the better judgement of another is more precious than rubies. Solomon was wise enough to understand this and cried out for a discerning heart to judge between good and evil. Any man considering entering into a ltr would do well to pray for a discerning heart as well.

Blogger Artisanal Toad October 01, 2017 5:52 PM  

Michael Maier wrote: Artisanal Toad October 01, 2017 10:53 AM

Created by God with no sin nature"


Really? And yet she disobyed?


Yes, He created her without a sin nature and yes, she disobeyed. Read the text. Prior to eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, she didn't even know what evil was. Sin did not enter the world until they disobeyed God's commandment.

The outcome of which was that women were judged incompetent and men appointed as their guardians with responsibility over them.

Blogger GraceIronwood October 01, 2017 6:38 PM  

Scrolling back I'm struck that this thread has become a real pile-on (including myself and other female readers)

These deluded women deserve the criticism but there are strong relationships out there- and most of women are still motivated by biological urges to seek relationships with men.

Since sex has been de-coupled from reproduction the idea of marriage has shifted heterosexual relationships closer to a homosexual one: essentially sterile recreational sex.

It is not really surprising that our society's definition of marriage is closer to that of "two people in love" rather than two people committing to form a stable family unit. If we use the former definition there's no reason why homosexual relationships shouldn't be seen as "equal" (meaning exactly the same) to heterosexual relationships for the purpose of marriage.

I have had a generally happy and mutually supportive relationship with my husband: we have fought a lot but always made up quickly too ("better in than out"). I feel my husband has taught me a lot and I respect him greatly. He, in turn, feels blessed that I am not "high maintenance" and I know he respects my intelligence and likes talking to me.

There are more happy marriages to be made out there but the birthrate will not go up and the culture of marriage will not be restored until Official Feminism understands that the West's demographic death spiral is actually the main "women's issue".

Blogger GraceIronwood October 01, 2017 6:42 PM  

Whoops, I meant that resentments are better "out than in" -
aired and resolved rather than festering.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot October 01, 2017 9:11 PM  

So: comment numbers were in, now the comment numbers are out ...

WELL THEN!

I want totally random numbers! I want imaginary numbers! I want irrational numbers!

I want to be able to refer to comment number e^(pi*i) + 43 and have it mean something great again! :-)

Also, I want a pony ... or a Spacebunny figurine, because I'm completely serious about that Robert E. Lee costume thing, you know. :-)

Blogger LordSomber October 01, 2017 10:19 PM  

Smart/clever and credentialed don’t play out as far in the long run as much as character, merit (and maybe some eventual wisdom)… at least in the eyes of most men, I would hope.

Anonymous c matt October 02, 2017 11:02 AM  

"Well educated" itself usually translates to nothing more than "well indoctrinated". Is it any wonder that an above average IQ man would steer far clear of an "educated" woman? The more educated, the more high maintenance.

Anonymous GregMan October 02, 2017 12:56 PM  

I have been sitting here, reading this article, trying to think of any college-educated women I have met that I would consider wife-material, and I have not come up with one. Not. One.

Some were OK before college, but after? No way.

OTOH, my wife only went as far as 2-year school, and we're still married after 27 years. She is a genius with a crock pot or an oven, and still looks good. Who needs a woman with a college degree? Not me, that's for sure.

Anonymous Icicle October 02, 2017 3:27 PM  

(((Crock pot))).

Blogger Phunctor October 20, 2017 6:19 AM  

Too soon old, too late schmart! My exwives bless their hearts include a Phd an MS and an MBA. My problem is I never had pets as a child. The company of the cognitively challenged is to me like a drooling hound. With a lawyer.

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