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Monday, October 02, 2017

A brother's lies

A body language analyst on the interview with Paddock's brother.



She concludes that Paddock's attack was likely political in nature rather than religious, and was more likely connected with Antifa than with ISIS.

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Anonymous VFM #7916 October 02, 2017 1:46 PM  

It's like watching an episode of Lie to Me.

Anonymous FP October 02, 2017 1:56 PM  

A good example of why you should not talk to the media, especially in the immediate aftermath of such an attack.

Blogger lowercaseb October 02, 2017 2:00 PM  

Bombard does some solid work. It's worth browsing her back catalog as well.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 02, 2017 2:06 PM  

Interesting. I don't know enough about body language to say anything except that the brother is definitely acting weird, and way beyond the normal "weird" that such a situation should produce.

Anonymous Mug October 02, 2017 2:06 PM  

Guy wearing a pink pussy hat:

https://twitter.com/MicroPrimeTime/status/914879771405778944

Blogger Nate October 02, 2017 2:06 PM  

i'm never surprised by people acting wierd on camera in high stress situations. but the only part of that that appeared sincere to me was "Where the hell did he get the machine guns?"

Anonymous comeflywithme October 02, 2017 2:08 PM  

I'm an actual SME in the same (type of) field as the youtuber (more ground level)...and this guy would be beyond "seminar" as far as statement analysis/body language. His tells are so strong I assume regular folks pick up on it.

Btw, shall we assume, non-practicing or not, this guy's a Jew?

Blogger VD October 02, 2017 2:08 PM  

the only part of that that appeared sincere to me was "Where the hell did he get the machine guns?"

Yes, his body language was much more natural there, especially when he was talking about having helped him move.

Anonymous krymneth October 02, 2017 2:10 PM  

Thank you for a fascinating YouTube channel to binge on. This sort of thing works better on video than pain text.

Anonymous VFM0265 October 02, 2017 2:11 PM  

Isis is claiming responsibility, saying shooter converted. Total B.S.. My bet is Antifa/Anti Trump. Heavy implications here going forward.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous October 02, 2017 2:13 PM  

I think he was radicalized by his hot old Asian girlfriend. Mandalay is in Burma, where the Rohingya Muslims are currently undergoing an ethnic cleansing. Could that be more than a coincidence? My opinion only, I have zero evidence to support my theory at this time.

Blogger Glenn Phillips October 02, 2017 2:15 PM  

I think it would be hard to analyze someone who just went through what this guy went through. His brother died. His brother just became a mass murderer. Reporters are putting mikes in his face. How early in the morning is it? etc.

Blogger Desdichado October 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

I know it's just Infowars, but they're claiming that FBI sources found pictures of Paddock in the Middle East as well as Antifa literature in his hotel room.

Blogger Andrew October 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

Reminiscent of the Sandy Hook coroner. Weird laughs. Inappropriate attempts at humor. Strange

Blogger Jeffrey Johnson October 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

This whole Vegas shooter thing is just weird. You've got the girlfriend who is out of of the country. You've got that guy in the pussy hat who looks like the shooter. One of the New York papers reported his father was on the FBI most wanted list. There was ISIS calling for attacks on Vegas recently and claiming that he was a convert. Now you have the brother who was certainly holding back stuff in his interview. It's going to be really interesting when /pol gets to the bottom of this mess in the next few days.

Anonymous Pax_Romana October 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

This video is a great resource. I don't know much about analysing body language for "tells," but if it's on the up-and-up...well, subbed, either way.

Anonymous PinochetWasRight October 02, 2017 2:17 PM  

Prez needs to neg the crap out of this, take the podium, have his big moment and note, "Look...not ALL Leftists are murderous terrorists like this guy...I want the American people to know, not ALL democrats support this guy of terror at an All-American country music show...that's why I call on Nancy Pelosi and [insert other dem names specifically] to publicly denounce this terrorist act and ALL of Antifa"

Anonymous BBGKB October 02, 2017 2:18 PM  

Melbourne antifa claimed it as one of theirs https://gab.ai/shadowmud/posts/12862410

OMG on above video brother says he had a place in Melbourne at 5:40

Then see him protest TRUMP at http://www.ktvn.com/story/36203418/president-trump-supporters-and-protesters-gather-in-reno 57 into the video


(((The TALK))) tv show is covering it
This messes up my
Breivik needed 121 shots to kill 77
Copenhagen moslem at cartoonist party over 200 only killed 1 not artist
Ballpark Bernie Bro 50+ rounds none killed
Vegas Bernie Bro XXXX shots 50+ killed

Blogger JACIII October 02, 2017 2:19 PM  

Watch Bombard's "creepy Joe Biden" video. Ugh. Protect your daughters!

Blogger YIH October 02, 2017 2:21 PM  

I tend to agree with her, ''don't like him, hardly knows him, probably doesn't communicate with him often, and just as baffled as everybody else as to what happened''
I don't think he's trying to defend him, and, as she noted he's clearly uncomfortable with being thrust suddenly into the public spotlight - as anyone not used to it would.
Personally, I would have turned around, walked back into the house said 'no comment' and shut the door in their face. And if they don't start heading back to their van within a minute, call the cops, let them deal with those creatures.

Anonymous fop October 02, 2017 2:22 PM  

Jesus. Give the guy a cigarette and he's Nathan Thurm.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer October 02, 2017 2:25 PM  

I'm no expert on body language, but if my brother was accused of killing 50+ people and injuring hundreds more, my first impulse would not be to jump in front of some reporters and start giving an interview. Actually, my first impulse would be to get a lawyer.

Blogger Ransom Smith October 02, 2017 2:28 PM  

Melbourne antifa claimed it as one of theirs
That's a troll account.
One of many /pol/ has produced. But sadly it's become impossible to differentiate since all they do on the fake Antifa accounts is copy directly from Antifa.

Blogger August October 02, 2017 2:34 PM  

No active employment. Lawyer speak on whether he's retired or not. Maybe because there's potential contract work?

Blogger WATYF October 02, 2017 2:37 PM  

Glenn Phillips wrote:I think it would be hard to analyze someone who just went through what this guy went through. His brother died. His brother just became a mass murderer. Reporters are putting mikes in his face. How early in the morning is it? etc.
Same. How many of this chick's "analyses" have been put to the test for verification? We can make whatever guesses we want, but given the level of crazy in his life right at that moment, it's silly to assume an "unusual" body language means anything specific. There's nothing "usual" about what he's dealing with.

WATYF

Anonymous PinochetWasRight October 02, 2017 2:41 PM  

The Prez needs to neg this big time, by taking the podium and noting something like,

"Look, while it is true that Antifa is an anti-American terrorist organization, that hates everything from country music to the National Anthem...not ALL democrats or Leftists are terrorists or full of this type of bigotry...and I personally call on Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and other leading Democrats to completely DISAVOW this type of terrorist attack by their political allies and adherents."

Proceed to drop the mic.

Blogger Ingot9455 October 02, 2017 2:41 PM  

Could he be ISIS AND Antifa?
Two great tastes in one candy bar.

Blogger Gordon October 02, 2017 2:42 PM  

Antifa has literature?

It is odd. Much easier to just say, we're grieving, we don't have any comment, such a tragedy. He had to walk out to talk to these guys. Some people are fame whores. But I don't understand why he gave the interview.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 02, 2017 2:44 PM  

YIH wrote:I tend to agree with her, ''don't like him, hardly knows him, probably doesn't communicate with him often, and just as baffled as everybody else as to what happened''

I would agree as well. It seems like maybe the reason he didn't like him is tied into this but doesn't want to say that to the media. The freak out about how he got the machine guns also suggests he at one time thought he may try to do something like this but figured he wouldn't be able to get his hands on the equipment.

We all have met someone where we thought for a second "this guy seems like he could kill someone someday" but discount it because you don't have enough proof of anything. The vast majority of us turn out to be right not to pursue it any further and the person never does anything. Very rarely someone is wrong and they do kill someone.

Blogger YIH October 02, 2017 2:45 PM  

The only time I've consciously paid attention to body language in a video was when Sarah Palin announced her support for Trump. His discomfort with her is obvious, and he was relived and glad when she finally shut up - as was I, she is not pleasant to listen to.

Blogger Quadko October 02, 2017 2:48 PM  

VFM #7916 wrote:It's like watching an episode of Lie to Me.
Ever since that show pointed it out, I can't not see interviewees and actors shaking their head no as they say "yes".

Anonymous Panzer Man October 02, 2017 2:57 PM  

Let's assume his automatic weapon was legally acquired. That takes at least 6 months for NFA paperwork. Add a couple of months to that for planning, waiting for the opportunity, etc., and you get 8-9 months for him to get the idea to do this and set it up.

8-9 months ago, Trump was inaugurated as President, dashing the hopes of leftists who hoped to see the election invalidated

8-9 months later, a guy shoots up a bunch of people at a country music concert. "Red State" types of people who most probably voted Trump and were overwhelmingly White.

Revenge on the "evil white deplorable supramacist Nazis" who elected that racist Hitlerite madman Trump?

Blogger Cail Corishev October 02, 2017 2:59 PM  

Could he be ISIS AND Antifa?

Sure, they have the same enemies. And it doesn't have to be that he was a card-carrying member or that he was officially sent by either one. Could simply be that he was on their mailing lists, inspired by their literature, that kind of thing.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 02, 2017 3:04 PM  

Ingot9455 wrote:Could he be ISIS AND Antifa?

Two great tastes in one candy bar.



Antifa IS Isis.

I know, it's a meme.

But it's also damn close to being true. Antifa are the shock troops of a violent anti-white/anti-west ideology.

Slightly different origins to Isis but they end up in the exact same place.

Blogger The Chortling October 02, 2017 3:05 PM  

why would he want to help the press?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 02, 2017 3:07 PM  

The BLM - Antifa - ISIS alliance

Anonymous BBGKB October 02, 2017 3:07 PM  

Could he be ISIS AND Antifa?

Banging a moslem broad and protesting TRUMP. We need to keep an eye on CROOKED EYE CLINTON and not let her around assault weapons.

Blogger Stilicho October 02, 2017 3:13 PM  

@Mantra Man: it's not an alliance, it's an Axis of Weasel.

Anonymous PinochetWasRight October 02, 2017 3:17 PM  

Wonder what the ethnic background of the brothers is? Hmm...looking at the vid, so hard...to...tell...

Blogger Ceasar October 02, 2017 3:21 PM  

Besides some of the points by the chick about the video, the one thing that caught my attention was his use of the term "long gun" he used. For some reason it just doesn't seem to fit his natural vocabulary. Almost like it was a term to use in a pre planned response if the question was asked.

Anonymous Ledfordbot October 02, 2017 3:23 PM  

Is "reading body language" any better than palm reading? Maybe. Just because I'm no good at it doesn't mean others aren't. Nonetheless, I'm skeptical. Like to see someone pick out liars in blind tests before I give credence.

Blogger JohnG October 02, 2017 3:24 PM  

The "where did he get the machine guns" bit is pretty definitive.

Anonymous Tipsy October 02, 2017 3:27 PM  

Ledfordbot wrote:Is "reading body language" any better than palm reading? Maybe. Just because I'm no good at it doesn't mean others aren't. Nonetheless, I'm skeptical. Like to see someone pick out liars in blind tests before I give credence.

That's all be done - there is a lot a research behind this.

If you're interested, here is a TED talk by Pamela Meyer on the subject.



Anonymous MawBTS October 02, 2017 3:34 PM  

She says it's more likely antifa than ISIS because they're "closer", which is retarded. Antifa is decentralized, with no fixed location. The post claiming credit for the attack was made on a (likely fake/troll) page called "Melbourne Antifa" - Melbourne is thirteen thousand miles away from Las Vegas.

Then she says she could see no evidence that there was ever a mosque near him (proving what?). I Googled and in ten seconds learned that there are nine mosques and Islamic centers in and around Las Vegas, Nevada.

That was when I stopped watching, seventeen seconds in.

Anonymous Ledfordbot October 02, 2017 3:36 PM  

Tipsy wrote:Ledfordbot wrote:Is "reading body language" any better than palm reading? Maybe. Just because I'm no good at it doesn't mean others aren't. Nonetheless, I'm skeptical. Like to see someone pick out liars in blind tests before I give credence.

That's all be done - there is a lot a research behind this.

If you're interested, here is a TED talk by Pamela Meyer on the subject.



Palm reading's probably not 100% bs. You could generate research to back it up. Like to see Miss Meyer on "To Tell the Truth" (showing my age).

Blogger Stilicho October 02, 2017 3:36 PM  

He dindu nuffin, he was gwan go to coachella.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 02, 2017 3:40 PM  

Early signs the feds are going to go with the lone nutjob story:

"There was reason to believe Paddock had a history of psychological problems, a US official told Reuters news agency."

from: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41472462

Blogger MeneMene October 02, 2017 3:40 PM  

Everything tells if you know how to listen. That's the tricky part.

Blogger Salt October 02, 2017 3:40 PM  

My vid take is the brother is ashamed and embarrassed at what has happened. He didn't know his brother at all. Estranged might describe their relationship.

Blogger Elocutioner October 02, 2017 3:40 PM  

"Melbourne is thirteen thousand miles away from Las Vegas." *facepalm*

Blogger Stilicho October 02, 2017 3:43 PM  

Yo, Maw, Melbourne, Florida. Google it, just a little bit...

Anonymous MawBTS October 02, 2017 3:44 PM  

""Melbourne is thirteen thousand miles away from Las Vegas." *facepalm*

Kilometers. My bad.

Melbourne is still not close to Las Vegas.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 02, 2017 3:45 PM  

A certifiable weird dude for sure, but what I zeroed in on was his t-shirt and all I got was "community arts" now tell me if that is typical Gen X conservative wear? I don't think so, what it probably is is that this mope attended the usual little effeminate bitch about Trump sessions and then the shit got real and he is nervous about getting his ass whacked.

The rest of the background story which is supposed to be a "public record" according to the mope on video does seem to be slow in coming out and it seems a quick scrub of social media like FB has happened.

So there are rumors of a FB account and a picture of some old Boomer in a pussy hat at a Vegas anti-Trump rally, but nothing has solidified. We are barely above Infowars conspiracy theorizing.

Blogger Robert October 02, 2017 3:48 PM  

This body language stuff is no better than palm reading. Guesswork. And he was talking about Melbourne, Florida, I'm sure. There are plenty of mosques around there. And Melbourne, Australia, for that matter. And Antifa certainly has a computer or two. No real information here.

Anyway, the shooter could remind me of plenty of white-knight crazies who couldn't believe the girl didn't get to be the first super-girl Presidentess.

I think it's interesting the shooter was 64 yoa. And didn't have regular employment. High-stress age, not quite old enough for full SocSec and Medicare. But how did he get it together to rent a suite on the 32d story of the Mandalay Bay? Must have had some support. The brother should not be talking to anyone, much less ambitious con artist "body language experts".

Blogger James Dixon October 02, 2017 3:51 PM  

Everyone knows that OJ was just released, right? :)

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 02, 2017 3:53 PM  

At the end of the day, we still know very little. We don't even know if Paddock was the actual shooter. According to official statements (hardly a reliable source of truth), he was found dead in a hotel room with 10 guns. Listening to the shots in the video, one shooter is certainly plausible (but this does not rule out more than one).

According to at least one report, the woman who ran into the bar minutes before firing commenced (supposedly Paddock's girlfriend) allegedly warned that "they are surrounding us and going to kill us all", before her ejection by hotel security. Who are "they", assuming there was a "they"? Again, this report is also from (((fake news))) and one must consider the course. Anything is possible. Obviously one cannot expect a regime with such a long track record of lying about - basically everything - to start miraculously speaking truth. Nor can one expect the badge-gang goondas on government payrolls in Las Vegas to say anything except what they are told to say. As for (((fake news))), they also have a decades-long record of lying - about basically everything. In a society built upon a heap of lies and controlled by genocidal criminals who are congenital liars, who do you believe? Krusty the Klown is at least as credible as the Carlos Slim Blog - probably even more so just on the odd chance that he's get something right once in a while.

Interestingly enough, this would be a great opportunity for those who are actually interested in seeking truth to get to work and do some digging on their own instead of taking the statements of known liars at face value. Perhaps we can look forward to a Infogalactic page in future where the whole thing is explained. Sometimes crazy is just crazy too, even with long list of shenanigans and various criminal actions carried out by those who operate with complete impunity under the color of law. As always, one of the first questions to ask is "cui bono"?

Blogger Salt October 02, 2017 3:55 PM  

James Dixon wrote:Everyone knows that OJ was just released, right? :)

The NFL can sign him up. He should be good at stealing the limelight or killing stories when necessary.

Blogger Dave October 02, 2017 3:56 PM  

CBS Radio reporting casinos had filed notices to the IRS, multiple times recently that he was gambling more than 10k/day (minimum threshold for IRS notice) up to $20-$30k/day.

Anonymous the abe October 02, 2017 3:57 PM  

I was left unconvinced by her analysis as she comes across a bit eisegetic in the beginning.

The initial shock of losing a loved one coupled with the circumstances here would probably skewer anybody's reactions. What he might have been trying to hide were his raw emotions in the glare of cameras and the onerous of having to give an explanation of the indefensible.

That said, she could very well be right about being more familiar with the motive than he is letting on.

Anonymous MawBTS October 02, 2017 3:58 PM  

And he was talking about Melbourne, Florida, I'm sure.

On the page's About section they give their location as "Wurundjeri Country". It's the Australian Melbourne.

Honestly, I'm really doubtful that this is an actual antifa page. All their posts are just exaggerated flamebait about some cultural issue. Examples:

"It's time for soy boy Sunday! Post some vegan recipes and show the world they don't need to oppress animals to live a satisfying life #ProudSoyBoy"

"Our brother's, sisters's and xer's have been unfairly attacked by the fascist undemocratic class traitors of the german police, in our war to liberate them from their capitalist oppressors."

Like, who would actually write shit like that unironically?

It's a fake page.

Blogger Desdichado October 02, 2017 4:03 PM  

Related: we're learning the lesson that the Left has taught us. CBS exec who said she had no sympathy for the Las Vegas victims because country music fans are probably Republicans anyway fired.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/10/02/report-cbs-legal-exec-blasts-las-vegas-victims-republican-gun-toters/

Blogger Dave October 02, 2017 4:04 PM  

Turns out their father was a real piece of work. Convicted bank robber, multiple felonies, was on FBI's most wanted. He escaped custody once and was on the lam over three years.

Blogger Dave October 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

Tom Petty gone heart attack

Blogger James Dixon October 02, 2017 4:05 PM  

OT: Beep, Tom Petty has had a heart attack: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2017/10/02/tom-petty-rushed-to-hospital-in-full-cardiac-arrest-on-life-support-report-says.html

It doesn't sound good.

Blogger James Dixon October 02, 2017 4:06 PM  

I see Dave and I were typing at the same time.

Anonymous fop October 02, 2017 4:07 PM  

Why are "body language experts" almost always women?

Anonymous CarpeOro October 02, 2017 4:07 PM  

@52
I was getting a similar take on the brother. Sometimes you go with your gut and mine says both brothers were into the antifa bit, one just happened to be more zealous. The less brother knows there is nothing that can tie him to it but still feels the pressure and is backing off a bit - likes the attention, just wants to not have his similar inclinations high lighted. Someone posted on the last thread their father had been on the FBI most wanted list and was violent - if true, looks a bit like nature and nurture coming into play.

Blogger Dave October 02, 2017 4:08 PM  

Report is no brain activity they pulled him off life support.

Blogger Nate October 02, 2017 4:09 PM  

"Why are "body language experts" almost always women?"

because more than 50% of female communication is non-verbal already.

Blogger Nate October 02, 2017 4:10 PM  

"Like, who would actually write shit like that unironically? "

you've obviously never been to a real antifa page. They unironically call each other comrade.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents October 02, 2017 4:11 PM  

I am certainly thankful that President Hillary Clinton did not give a statement this morning.

Blogger Ceasar October 02, 2017 4:13 PM  

Well one thing we know is that whatever the reason for him doing this, it was with the idea of ensuring everyone finds out why. You don't pick one of the most monitored/camera laden cities in America to "get away with it". Only question will be if GOV decides to release all information they find. My guess...they wont.

Anonymous MawBTS October 02, 2017 4:13 PM  

Report is no brain activity they pulled him off life support.

Sucks.

Is age 66-69 becoming the new 27 for musicians?

Blogger Elocutioner October 02, 2017 4:20 PM  

A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents wrote:I am certainly thankful that President Hillary Clinton did not give a statement this morning.

Sadly Bigfoot Stalker Clinton did.

Anonymous BBGKB October 02, 2017 4:20 PM  

"Like, who would actually write shit like that unironically? "

Lots of faggot leftists

Blogger James Dixon October 02, 2017 4:29 PM  

Tom Petty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jBi8XfKzk0

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 02, 2017 4:32 PM  

Sadly Bigfoot Stalker Clinton did.

Don't care. No power to enforce those words. Thankfully.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club October 02, 2017 4:36 PM  

@60 - Hayley Geftman-Gold

"Guy, my fellow white people are, like, so awful, I hope they, like, all die!"

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 02, 2017 4:41 PM  

@60.
(((Hayley Geftman-Gold))). What a real surprise! Jack Judeo-Christ stands by Hayley. Really surprised she got fired. A more common response from that Manhattan snake-pit would have been a promotion. She'll probably land a nice seven-figure job with some (((Soros))) funded NGO. Perhaps NFL office can hire her and OJ as well, now that he's out of the big house and needs funds to continue his fearless pursuit of the real killah.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass October 02, 2017 4:42 PM  

ISIS or Antifa...point is, if he was affiliated with either, he was an enemy of this country. ISIS does have a history, albeit one time, of claiming an attack that was not their own (the Philippines' casino attack; it was an irate gambler who lost it and shot the place up).

If he was a lone wolf, so be it.

Also RIP Petty. Saw him back in '06 when I was in college. One of the best concerts ever (probably had something to do with the storm that knocked out power three times and yet you could still the band playing).

Anonymous Bell Worthington October 02, 2017 4:50 PM  

We know basically nothing at this point.

The FBI can "search" the guy's property and come up with any story they want. Then we will still know nothing.

Is his apartment filled with swastikas or hammers and sickles? Personally I think it's nothing but dildos, army manuals, and outdated electronics. That wouldn't serve any narrative though. The intelligence community may very well be starting to come down on antifa. It's a threat to the death by a thousand cuts they have planned. Antifa's thug behavior is making people ask uncomfortable questions about the direction things are headed. In that vein, they're more of a threat to NWO/ZOG/Globohomo/Bankster/Multiculti ambitions than the entire alt-right. It's useful idiots being too idiotic to be useful. Or he's a "nazi" and they're overreacting to Charlottesville. Point is, he is whatever serves their purposes.

We'll never know the real story. All we'll have is minor and circumstantial incongruities to suggest that what they've told us is bullshit.

Anonymous JamesD October 02, 2017 4:57 PM  

Awesome interview on the fall of Lebanon via "diversity".

https://youtu.be/21orCM7KkRI

Blogger mgh October 02, 2017 5:05 PM  

The brother's weird behavior may be simply that the family secret is out. Dad was a criminal psycho, and now brother is a psycho so now he can't laugh off any of his own odd behavior anymore. The guy is going to get the stinkeye from friends and his employer.

Anonymous liljoe October 02, 2017 5:17 PM  

hmm...girlfriend married to a rabid anti-trumper, antifa leftist. rents two rooms for a week with guns and chooses a Harvest Festival as the target. really tough to connect the dots on this one. right right, lone wolf, crazy white guy with guns. yeah ok

Blogger kurt9 October 02, 2017 5:51 PM  

What about psych meds? Was this guy on them? If so, which ones?

Anonymous johnc October 02, 2017 5:58 PM  

Just canvasing the interwebs for a bit and it seems like the coordinated narrative -- always look for the coordinated narrative -- is that this was yet another white male doing what while males do best: terrorism. America is a dangerous, dangerous place because of the preponderance of white male terrorism. They've skipped right over gun control and are going straight for the white terrorist meme.

So yeah... false flag.

Blogger Dave October 02, 2017 6:07 PM  

Conflicting reports on Tom Petty; said to be clinging to life.

Blogger LP9 October 02, 2017 6:09 PM  

Her take on Anton Leavy was really interesting too along with Kim NOKO. Motions, choice of attire, (aura but I can't go all esoteric here) Handwriting and body language speaks more to me than the spoken word, its why watching the talking isn't hearing the message often at times, Dr. Mate talks about the pyschobiosocial (I might have that backwards but I highly recommend Dr. Gabor Mate akin to Jordan P) person; mind body, soul, etc...When I turn down my hearing aid and read lips the true intent or real message is obvious.

God is at work; my hearing is 11/21/2017 at 1pm for the financial only. OHIO courts, Please God, please everyone pray for me.

Anonymous Bowman October 02, 2017 6:18 PM  

Gun control should be implemented in full force. On leftists & muslims.

Is Mahommet the prophet ?
Should society be fair, equal & inclusive ?
From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs ?

- Yes => no gun

Blogger LP9 October 02, 2017 6:18 PM  

I wonder who heard the shots first who was the woman warning people.

That kind of armory also will preclude more death, I hope everyone lives and survives to tell the world their stories via iphone etc...

Anonymous Avalanche October 02, 2017 6:19 PM  

@24 @WATYF and Glenn Phillips:
I think it would be hard to analyze someone who just went through what this guy went through.
Same. How many of this chick's "analyses" have been put to the test for verification? We can make whatever guesses we want, but given the level of crazy in his life right at that moment, it's silly to assume an "unusual" body language means anything specific.

Agree. I could easily see reacting the way he did' trying to answer inane and pointed questions without

And ever since a 9th grade teacher tried to 'analyze me' by saying that the fact that my letters slanted leftwards rather than rightwards meant this-or-that psychological trait -- and I pointed out, "no it actually meant I was left-handed!" I mistrust any of these people saying; "oh,yes *I* (am so special that I can) know what that person believes just from the way his pinkie finger extends!"

Go check the study (Mann, Virj and Bull 2004) mentioned here: https://books.google.com/books?id=9a8JBTvmlI4C&pg=PA67&lpg=PA67&dq=study+of+cops+determining+guilt+based+on+body+language&source=bl&ots=OoHKlJHsr7&sig=pXQDTixzQEBQzt5wkcm0eqSa0zY&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7s42K-tLWAhVJRyYKHS18CCcQ6AEIUzAH#v=onepage&q=study%20of%20cops%20determining%20guilt%20based%20on%20body%20language&f=false

And the whole "Breaks in eye contact during responses means lying" -- in some cultures people intentionally do NOT make eye contact; that's not lying, it's being polite.

Or:

"...
For example, a recent, as yet unpublished meta-analysis of 253 studies of people distinguishing truths from lies revealed overall accuracy was just 53 percent--not much better than flipping a coin, note the authors, psychologists Charles Bond, PhD, of Texas Christian University, and Bella DePaulo, PhD, of the University of California, Santa Barbara.
...signs of emotion aren't necessarily signs of guilt. An innocent person may be apprehensive and appear guilty, ...
(http://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/detecting.aspx)

And, also from that article:
"... DePaulo and Morris say that liars take longer to start answering questions than truth-tellers--but when they have time to plan, liars actually start their answers more quickly than truth-tellers."
...

Grrrrreat! So, whether you start to speak quickly or slowly, you're lying -- Gee, I'll be THAT's useful!
(That article is actually terrifying -- why would someone think that asking felons to lie or be truthful about a *video they just watched* would IN ANY WAY equate to someone lying or not lying about a crime they may have committed?!)

Why don't they just use phrenology?!

Anonymous Avalanche October 02, 2017 6:29 PM  

@65 "Why are "body language experts" almost always women?"

Hundreds of thousands of years learning how to determine what the HELL that screaming baby wants!

Blogger Ned October 02, 2017 6:29 PM  

Don't know anything about body language, but this tape seems to supply a lot of info. Since casinos pretty much video everything, perhaps we'll know more when the tapes are released. If they are. And if they're not doctored.

Blogger Matamoros October 02, 2017 6:35 PM  

From Jim Stone:

SHOOTER COULD NOT HAVE BEEN AT MANDALAY BAY

The gunfire is too loud over the concert, it was happening at the concert . Windows are easy to kick out later.

HERE IS THE KEY VIDEO THAT DESTROYS THE LIE. http://82.221.129.208/beginningofshooting.mp4

This is just a file on this site, which you can right click and save. This video is evidence, there is no way the official story holds up against this. The gunfire was simply too loud and too local in reference to the concert for the official story to hold.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS -
1. If it was originating 1500 feet away at Mandalay Bay, it was not close enough to totally blast over the concert loud enough to cause the performers, who wear monitor equipment to block all sound, to stop playing. The concert was LOUD when the shooting happened. You simply can't outdo a concert from that far away, no one would have heard it over the music, especially the performers, who have equipment that is designed to block the sound of the concert and let them hear only the sound of their instruments, as they are played in reference to the other instruments. The failure of this system is what did Mariah Carey in on New Years, when you are playing that "big" you have to be directly piped to the mixing board with all other sources of sound blocked. This would have prevented the performers from hearing anything. Why did they stop? ANSWER: Gunshots from above them on the same stage would have been loud enough. What happens on stage in the video is a supreme bust of the official lie.

POINT TWO: Audio recording equipment (even on a camcorder) automatically sets the level of the audio to optimal. The concert was LOUD, it is obvious because the crowd cannot be heard when the music is playing. Then gunfire clearly is louder than the concert, even though according to the official story it originated 1500 feet away. The automatic level control in the audio recorder proves the gunfire was simply too loud in relation to the music to have come from Mandalay Bay, it had to have originated above the speakers. That is the only way the automatic level control circuit would not have had the recording level choked back so far that the gunfire would not be heard. The recording should not have had the sound of gunfire so prominent, IF it even managed to record the sound of the gun at all. Obviously after the music cut the recorder would pick up the gunfire from that distance because it would automatically turn the record volume up.

POINT THREE:

Watch the video. The stage crew cuts everything to black, and then takes the stage lighting, points it directly out at the crowd, and turns it back on to illuminate the crowd. The shooting does not resume until this process is complete. This was a deliberate act that no one would have thought of off the cuff unless it was planned ahead of time. Without a doubt, someone on the stage crew was involved in this shooting. Interesting it is that the concert was called the "Route 91 harvest" and took place on route 91!

Here is what I think happened. The shooters were actually situated above the stage. The windows on Mandalay Bay were kicked out for the story line. I have a video that shows it all unfold. I do not think the singer knew what was going on. I believe it was people planted in the crew that did this.

Blogger Matamoros October 02, 2017 6:35 PM  


POINT FOUR:

There were only two buildings - Luxor, which was far away and would have echoed upward due to its pyramid shape and smooth glass, which would make echoes be inaudible on the ground (to any significance, especially over a loud concert,) and Mandalay Bay, which is unlikely because the shooter was shooting away from any surface that could echo (especially that loudly) if the official story is not a lie. There are no echoes, it is two guns with choreographed shooters. They occasionally screw up and you can hear one gun stop and the other start.

They are saying it sounds like multiple guns because it was echoing off "all the buildings". PROBLEM: There simply were no buildings for there to be any echoes off of. This was multiple shooters, who happened to predominantly shoot at the same time.
Once I was able to go over the scene clearly, it is obvious such a shooting was not possible as stated. Additionally, the concert footage in other videos is clear, clearly showing Mandalay Bay and there are no muzzle flashes coming from Mandalay Bay, and no apparent broken windows. The lights above the stage were too bright for muzzle flashes to show if they originated in the same area.

See more at: http://82.221.129.208/.zy2.html

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 02, 2017 6:36 PM  

But we know from the FBI within hours it is not international terrorism, the same gang that has spent a year determining if Putin really is in charge of Trump.

Joke

Blogger LP9 October 02, 2017 6:39 PM  

87 Forget guns, everyone needs to adopt a mini baby piglet to sleep next to the dog, cats, etc; Islam will deport itself when your carrying around your many miniature baby piglet in every city in postamerica

Blogger Lovekraft October 02, 2017 6:41 PM  

Listening to Molyneux's take right now. He brought up the family history, ISIS connection.

Here's what we need to watch carefully: attempts to use psychological profiling as part of the prevention approach. This is the slippery slope and can be used to silence pretty much anyone who speaks against TPTB.

Luckily, the CBS exec getting fired was a counter to this: an early signal to them that their emotional outbursts to scapegoat will be countered.

Re profiling, yes I agree that males are the dominant actors (I won't address muslims. We have enough of our own problems. Let them sort their own problems back home in the ME) but I propose that we look at what people consume: what is their spiritual guide, what is their infodiet, do they have meaningful employment, do they have a meaninful purpose and connection to their society?

Ask these questions when we examine the next event.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 02, 2017 6:51 PM  

Avalanche
Hundreds of thousands of years learning how to determine what the HELL that screaming baby wants!

LOL! Nah, babies are easy. Either hungry, dirty or sleepy; can be all three. But that's it.

Women tend to be better at reading nonverbal comms because of millennia of reading men in order to better manipulate them. Women better at that were more likely to bear and raise children. Simple.

Blogger Johnny October 02, 2017 6:51 PM  

The one obvious thing for me is that he wants to distance himself from his brother but he does not want to condemn him. Thus he hovers between the two and isn't up to coming up with a good propaganda line.

Otherwise, expert or amateur, his behaviour is so erratic that it would be necessary to know what is ordinary for him to draw any useful conclusions.

Blogger Lovekraft October 02, 2017 6:56 PM  

Is there any doubt in anyone's minds that, should the FBI decide the brother is a potential material witness, that they couldn't get everything they wanted out of him?

You don't get to 'lawyer up' with this level of criminality IMO.

Whether the public finds out the truth is another matter entirely. More like trying to piece together a puzzle that keeps changing shape.

Blogger GraceIronwood October 02, 2017 6:58 PM  

Ive had a look at Bombards body language before (I stopped watching because her politics seemed to get in the way of her analysis)
The most striking and convincing analysis that I saw was of an interview with Bashir al Assad: she believed he was being quite truthful in his denial of the most recent chemical weapons incidents (when Trump launched the missiles).
For what it's worth- "Body language" is not an exact science nor exactly a science.

Anonymous Laz October 02, 2017 6:59 PM  

"Personally, I would have turned around, walked back into the house said 'no comment' and shut the door in their face. And if they don't start heading back to their van within a minute, call the cops, let them deal with those creatures."

Personally, I would tell them to get the hell off my property. If they didn't they would get to see the business end of my shotgun... and I would be perfectly justified under Texas law. Nevada laws are about the same.

Anonymous Crew October 02, 2017 7:34 PM  

Strange that there were multiple windows smashed out at the Mandalay Bay:

https://variety.com/2017/biz/news/vegas-broken-windows-at-shooters-mandalay-bay-hotel-room-photos-1202577760/

Almost as if someone can't get their story straight.

Anonymous Peter October 02, 2017 7:37 PM  

What, was the ouiji board expert not available ?

Blogger Jan Minář October 02, 2017 7:41 PM  

Have you ever talked to a reporter? The experience is nothing like the final product.

Blogger Stilicho October 02, 2017 7:41 PM  

The media are desperately trying to make this their longed-for Great White Defendant. Notice how every description begins with "white male" and ends with "had hunting and fishing licenses"? First, plant white male in everyone's mind, then use the licenses to insinuate that he must be one of those deplorable white males...

Anonymous Peter October 02, 2017 7:45 PM  

Look sometimes its just a crazy bastard with a gun... the rest is speculation...fun but fake.

Anonymous Pennywise October 02, 2017 7:51 PM  

Indeed, this body language reading, by a solipsistic female no doubt, is like throwing darts blindfolded. She is interjecting what she THINKS the brother ought to be doing and saying. Regardless, Paddock was the shooter, a deranged lunatic. Of course, the "Fake News" memists will be out en masses, hocking their wares to their toadies by making insinuations that the brothers were somehow remotely related to antifa.

Blogger Student in Blue October 02, 2017 7:53 PM  

@95. LP9

Muslims don't have the longest history of peacefully leaving an area, pigs or no pigs.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 02, 2017 8:05 PM  

@54 James Dixon
Everyone knows that OJ was just released, right? :)
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He is once again free to pursue the real killers

Blogger Were-Puppy October 02, 2017 8:08 PM  

@65 fop
Why are "body language experts" almost always women?
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This is how they read your mind and attribute things to you that are incorrect :P

Anonymous Nubiri October 02, 2017 8:09 PM  

I`ve seen little on the hotels` security except they did NOTHING. Why didn`t they? Be they ex-Rangers, Marines, or SEALs their job`s to protect the casinos` money. He was shooting non-gamblers outside the joint. So they sat back and called the cops. Yet I smell a lawsuit coming anyway.

Blogger Elder Son October 02, 2017 8:09 PM  

Police Scan Audio: 1 Hour 52 Minutes And 51 Seconds Of WTF?

https://soundcloud.com/user-342651909/sets/las-vegas-police-shooting

2 audios split 51:48 & 1:01:3.

The second audio gets even more interesting.

Anonymous Laz October 02, 2017 8:15 PM  

@Matamoros:

1. The stage lighting is like that after every concert so the crowd can see to leave.

2. That's an "extra bedroom" suite, which is about 1500sf. Both windows are easily accessible from the same suite.

Can't answer to the audio or the echoes because I haven't been in either situation.

Blogger R Doom October 02, 2017 8:17 PM  

I think it's a sad commentary of where we are as a country that when something like this happens, I go to the message boards to get the news...maybe later I'll take a look and see what "mainstream" media thinks I should believe.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 02, 2017 8:34 PM  

Well it authorities no less than seventy-two minutes to locate the shooter. Wow, that is an eternity in a situation like this. You can count on the authorities all you want, but the truth remains. When every second counts, the cops are minutes away. Even seventy-two minutes!

Blogger Brad Matthews October 02, 2017 8:36 PM  

I highly recommend everyone read Gavin de Becker's book The Gift of Fear (must read for your women). It will alter your view of "unpredictable violence." He explains that these things are never random. There is always a back story, lead up, and plenty of warning signs. This guy planned the view, angle of shooting, time of day, lighting, crowd, had to get all the guns and ammo to his room, etc. We may never know the why due to fake news, but this guy was a special kind of violent.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 02, 2017 8:38 PM  

According to the police scan that Elder Son just put up, it took the police on the scene all of 45 seconds to figure out the shooter was "halfway up in Mandalay Bay". And then 72 minutes to get him. Wow.

Blogger Elder Son October 02, 2017 8:48 PM  

117 - listen to the first. Pay attention to the second half of the audio versus the narrative.

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis October 02, 2017 9:01 PM  

Las Vegas Mass Shooting Full Scanner Audio of Police Response: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xAcTKNpDeY
1hour 21 minutes of police audio. Massive confusion for police response. Initial clear lack of command and control.
Have to split into two posts due to character limit. Also, not transcribed word for word -- can't type that fast!
Post #1:
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By 10 minutes in trying to shut down street traffic.
By about 15 minutes in they have identified room 135 on 32nd floor. But then reported 29th and 32nd floor. Security officer shot in leg on 32nd floor.
By 19 minutes in they had 4 man team on 32nd floor, another 4 man team arriving. Reporting definitively a 2nd shooter. Problem - police lacked rifles.
Around 20 minutes they had to warn officers to lock vehicles, civilians trying to steal shotguns from the police cruisers.
At 24 minutes setting up medial triage. At 26 minutes reported a "black julie" racing away from hotel at high speed.
Around 28 minutes 4 man unit on 29th floor. Also several police units reported being "pinned down".
Around 29 minutes problem with open mike flooding channel.
After minute 30 reporting 8 man unit at hotel lobby. (From here on they have resolved command and control problems and are proceeding methodically.)
Minute 31 reports they have not heard any more shots for about 15 minutes.
Minute 33 call to identify number of teams in Mandalay. One issue is apparently hotel security shut down elevators to prevent suspect escape, to cops had to climb the stairs.
Minute 34 report on status on clearing floors of civilians.
Minute 35 report of another 2 strikes teams moving in.
Minute 36: just before minute 36 older male with black duffle bag and fatigues went into white RV.
Minute 37: civilian stole a patrol car.
Minute 38: request for assistance multiple civilians trying to steal patrol cars.
Minute 39: reports they believe northern most room on 32nd floor. Also dispatching unit with shotgun to deal with RV.
Minute 40: trying to deal with multiple casualties in the concert venue.
Minute 41: request for Mandalay bay maintenance for elevator key as multiple units need to get upstairs. Unit on 32 has been doing clearance of civilians of 32nd floor.
Minute 42: warning of additional units coming to floor 32, alerting to prevent blue on blue.
Minute 43: dispatching more units to an intersection (Reno & Tropicana) to deal with a "possible".
Minute 45: reporting 2 additional units moving to cover RV. Additional units staging floor 32
Minute 46: 3 units dealing with the "possible" at a motel 6. Units on floor 32 requesting room number. Response is room 135.
Minute 47: requesting confirmation of 2 shooting locations. The Mandalay Bay and also Allie Babba/Giles are the 2 shooting locations.
Minute 48: another unit reporting arrival on floor 32, warned of booby traps. SWAT officer will meet them.
Minute 49: reporting 2 more strike teams arriving Mandalay Bay.
Minute 50: reporting room contained, warning do not emerge from stairwell, multiple rifles on scene.
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Continued in next post

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis October 02, 2017 9:03 PM  

Post #2:
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Minute 51: reporting holding on the stairs below level 32.
Minute 53: mainly organizational point staging reports.
Minute 54: medical requests, requests for where to deploy strike teams, medical units reporting able to respond with police units to provide cover.
Minute 55: Request how many security keys do you have? have security manager on floor 32 - request how many keys do you have - one set of keys
Minute 56: Citizens - artists - adamant do not want to exit stage.
Minute 57: should flip the channel so shooter team can have radio. All units do not transfer to UFC unless life threatening...Possible shots fired New York New York.
Minute 59: report shooter at front desk New York New York. Luxor Valet Black Audi possible wires sticking out
Minute 60: headed to New York New York, meet in south valet
Minute 61: will be peeking into hall, inform officers so no cross fire...advising active shooter possibly coming down escalator
Minute 62: need to know where patrol is in Mandalay Bay so can send tactical teams to take their spots...I have hallway on suspect door
Minute 63: 355 Zebra Twenty 355 Zebra Twenty
Minute 64: Control 656 do we have a 415A at New York New York - report was many subjects down - shooter at front desk New York New York - approximately 150 subjects sheltering kitchen area - two shots fired casino floor -- multiple subjects down - no answer New York New York
Minute 65: need strike teams for New York New York to give call signs - need strike teams for Luxor identification
Minute 66: control 206 Zebra - whoever is responding to New York New York get into cameras to determine if this is a diversion break. Have 3 metro SWAT teams. 2 to the tower, 1 to New York New York. Don't want to completely split our forces -- now getting advised active shooter at the Tropica
Minute 67: bomb squad for Luxor for the 445 device. Have FTI SWAT, Hendorson SWAT, and North las Vegas SWAT for staging area - please be advised receiving information multiple shooters multiple locations may be diversion
Minute 69: be advised Topicana advising hispanic male dark skin with Afro squatting in driveway Hooters looks like suspect
Minute 70: need roll call of personnel in Mandalay and strike team. 2 strike teams 13 officers total. All units SWAT use tac 1
Minute 71: control Zebra 20 - on suspects door - need everyone in hallway prepared to pop door -- all units move back SWAT has explosive device -- breach breach breach -- SWOOOOSH!
Minute 72: has anyone covered airport -- two shots fired in park area of New York New York
Minute 73: Have influx of returning ambulances any other area they need to respond to - Sending two teams Excaliber
Minute 74: Control 374 I have medics reporting getting shot at Tropicana -- need strike team to the Tropica -- announce yourself if you are going there -- Unit 20 - entered room have one suspect down - Zebra has one suspect down in room
Minute 75: Command team also with canine unit we arrived at New York New York -- 166 we are inside Tropicana they are reporting negative shots fired -- can you report location of suspect down -- inside room 135 floor 32 Mandalay Bay
Minute 76: explosive breach inside room 135 to adjacent room -- reports shots fired Tropicana -- we are at Tropica can report no shots fired -- do we have report New York New York - security reports no shots fired New York New York
Minute 78: control do you copy - unit 20 - room secure one suspect down multiple firearms -- do we have report on potential device at Luxor
Minute 79: do you have confirmation on suspicious device -- have cleared area -- all of our officers are about 100 yards away -- shots fired at Ceasers and the Bellagio
Minute 80: go for Zebra 20 - can we get confirmation as soon as possible at these hotels with additional shots fired - Zebra 20 can you come over to SWAT one and come up on the channel - affirmative
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Anonymous map October 02, 2017 9:37 PM  

Matamoros makes an excellent point.

Btw, was watching the Fox News coverage last night. Reporter interviewed a member of the stage crew. Guy with large metal earrings. Made a comment about Las Vegas being a sanctuary city and how this was bound to happen.

Can't find the footage.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 02, 2017 10:48 PM  

@91 Ned
Don't know anything about body language, but this tape seems to supply a lot of info. Since casinos pretty much video everything, perhaps we'll know more when the tapes are released. If they are. And if they're not doctored.
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Back in the 2000s or maybe earlier, the casinos had developed software to run against the camera feeds analyzing body behavior and other things.

In the late 2000s Walmart got that tech and installed it in all their stores. In WM case, it was more to analyze body language so they could hopefully get a jump on somebody before they flip out, and send an asset manager over there.

The casino hotels probably have this same running on all the cameras, even the ones that are not in the casino proper, but up on the floors.

It will be interesting if /pol/ or somebody gets that footage.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 02, 2017 11:08 PM  

R Doom wrote:
I think it's a sad commentary of where we are as a country that when something like this happens, I go to the message boards to get the news...maybe later I'll take a look and see what "mainstream" media thinks I should believe.

No, it's not a sad commentary. The fact of the matter is that we're a few inches closer to the truth because of the fact that (((fake news))) has at least been exposed to be liars who've been lying repeatedly over the course of decades - just like their good friends in the fetid, steaming cesspools along the Potomac who anxiously await their next delivery of greasy black pizza from Epstein's emporium.

They're all liars. They lie about anything and everything. They've been lying this way for decades running and for the first time in history a fair number (by no means a majority, mind you) are becoming aware of this. It's like 1984 - only worse. The lies are told from the pulpit, from the desks of (((fake news))), by finance people, government officials of all types, by the local criminals who operate under the color of law - und so weiter - 24 x 7 x 365. It's been the age of fake for a very long time. We're only just now beginning to catch on to it.

Blogger scimitar October 02, 2017 11:56 PM  

What a weirdo...What's up with his high pitched voice ??

Blogger en_forcer October 03, 2017 12:27 AM  

CTH is working on an analysis of the pictures and a Philippine connection.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/02/mandalay-bay-shooter-riddles-the-philippine-angle/#more-139327

Blogger SirGroggy October 03, 2017 12:35 AM  

more likely connected with Antifa than with ISIS.

Why only those 2 alternatives considered?

Blogger Cail Corishev October 03, 2017 12:39 AM  

Why only those 2 alternatives considered?

Because those are two groups most likely to want to target that type of crowd, and at least one of them claimed responsibility, and the other has been bragging about its plans to terrorize whites in general. Also, it's not "only," it's "first."

Why does that line of investigation bother you?

Blogger SirGroggy October 03, 2017 3:34 AM  

Why does that line of investigation bother you?

Trying to get people to consider all alternatives and not jump to conclusions from subjective 'body language' interpretations.

Anonymous RecoveringBeta October 03, 2017 6:51 AM  

A brief article on CNN (I know) had me thinking of this guy as an omega. Probably someone else has come to the same conclusion before me, but I do t read all the comments.

Blogger Thucydides October 03, 2017 10:25 AM  

If the shooting was connected with the communist Antifa, then they made a serious mistake. They could memory hole the communist shooter who attacked the Republicans playing baseball in Washington DC, but this level of carnage is never going to allow the act or actors to fall into the memory hole.

Indeed, if it does turn out to be inspired by Antifa or other political groups, there is going to be a concerted effort (official or unofficial) to hunt down the perpetrators and seek justice or vengeance.

Blogger flyingtiger October 03, 2017 11:40 AM  

I wonder if this guy was drunk or stoned. That could explain his behavior. Then again how did he know about the machine guns? Questions, questions.

Anonymous Fernando22 October 05, 2017 7:44 AM  

There's something interrogators use called Statement Analysis. The person's own unedited speech reveals a lot....even when written. It's hard for even dishonest people to directly lie because it causes psychological stress. In this case the guy is hiding something. He's clearly trying to make a point, but it's a sensitive point and he gives it away in his own speech. About 15 times, he says, "There's no...." But then stops himself. He wants us to think there's no political motive, or no motive at all. But he can't bring himself to say it. He keeps cutting the sentence short. Because it's hard to directly lie, and because he doesn't want to open up the discussion of motive that he's trying to close down. A good interviewer would have pressed him. "There's no what? What are you trying to say?" The sensitivity of this topic to the speaker is key. He keeps going there and trying to dismiss it, but very unconvincingly because he won't say what he's trying to dismiss. The conclusion from Statement Analysis is that the brother DOES know a lot and is trying to hide it. There IS a motive, the brother knows what it is, and he doesn't want us to know what it is. It might not be that the brother is in on the plot. It could just be, as one commenter suggested, that the brothers went to a few anti-Trump anti-redneck meetings together and the brother doesn't want those groups or himself tarred by his brother's actions. Or the brother knows there were handlers, and he knows that if he slips up and says too much it won't go over well with those guys. We can't know for sure what the brother knows. But based on Statement Analysis training, I would bet a million dollars the brother IS actively trying to deceive. This is not stress from cameras or from the shooting. This is a guy lying. Maybe he doesn't know much, but he knows something and he's trying to hide it. What sibling directs reporters to "the public record" when asked what their sibling is like? Lol.

Anonymous Pennywise October 05, 2017 11:32 AM  

"In this case the guy is hiding something. He's clearly trying to make a point, but it's a sensitive point and he gives it away in his own speech. About 15 times, he says, "There's no...." But then stops himself. He wants us to think there's no political motive, or no motive at all. But he can't bring himself to say it. He keeps cutting the sentence short."

Because he is incredulous that his brother committed such a heinous act. In reality, the brother is shocked. Period.

"Because it's hard to directly lie, and because he doesn't want to open up the discussion of motive that he's trying to close down. A good interviewer would have pressed him."

There is no lying taking place. The reporters did "press him", and he responded.

"He keeps going there and trying to dismiss it, but very unconvincingly because he won't say what he's trying to dismiss."

No, you are assuming he is hiding something. So when he acts in a way YOU believe is other than telling the truth, you take his body language and statements and make it conform to your perspective.

"The conclusion from Statement Analysis is that the brother DOES know a lot and is trying to hide it. There IS a motive, the brother knows what it is, and he doesn't want us to know what it is."

You are speculating here, which is fine. But speculation is not fact.

"It might not be that the brother is in on the plot. It could just be, as one commenter suggested, that the brothers went to a few anti-Trump anti-redneck meetings together and the brother doesn't want those groups or himself tarred by his brother's actions. Or the brother knows there were handlers, and he knows that if he slips up and says too much it won't go over well with those guys."

OR, you really don't know.

"We can't know for sure what the brother knows."

Exactly, so stop assuming you do.

"But based on Statement Analysis training, I would bet a million dollars the brother IS actively trying to deceive."

Do you even have a million dollars? And, are you ready to actually bet?

Anonymous Pepe the Frog October 12, 2017 1:25 AM  

@135
Sheriff Lombardo of the LVPD has admitted to finding notes left behind by the shooter, but continues to stonewall when asked to elaborate on their contents:

http://www.mlive.com/news/us-world/index.ssf/2017/10/las_vegas_shooter_left_note_ma.html

We all know that if the content of the shooter's notes advanced The Narrative, it'd be all over CNN, MSNBC, and the front page of the New York Times. Yet it isn't.

Add this to the pictures now circulating of the shooter at an anti-Trump rally this spring wearing a "pink pussy hat," and--well. Do I really have to put on a skit with big fuzzy puppets here?

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