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Wednesday, October 11, 2017

Conservatives simply won't fight

For all their complaints about the cultural war, the conservative movement has repeatedly proven to be useless, totally useless, when it comes to fighting back against Hollywood, against the publishing industry, and against the entertainment media:
If conservative investors had any courage, this would be the time to make a hostile takeover of the movie business.  Unfortunately, they don’t. I know this from bitter personal experience. Wealthy conservatives are delighted to support the Philharmonic, but when it comes to popular culture they turn away, as if afraid to get their hands dirty.

That this is a huge mistake should be obvious.  They have abandoned the culture -- and our children -- to the creepiest people imaginable.
Consider this. In just twelve days, Alt★Hero managed to reach the top one percent of all kickstarted campaigns ever, and it did so on a platform so new that it doesn't even have some of the most basic user interface features yet. Other than Milo Yiannopoulos, Mike Cernovich, and Stefan Molyneux, how many of the conservative media figures who regularly lament the dire straits of culture and entertainment in America have bothered to even recognize its existence, much less recommend it to anyone?

Do you want to know why the Right is losing the culture wars? Because conservatives simply refuse to fight them. For all that they decry the French as cheese-eating surrender monkeys, the WWII-era French Army offered considerably more resistance after the Maginot Line was bypassed than the conservative movement does in the culture wars.

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Blogger Markku October 11, 2017 11:05 AM  

This is an appeal to every Conservative's cowardice (since there's not much else to appeal to; at least THAT is reliable)

Remember, when the tide changes, there's one question that the victors will be asking: Who was in the front lines fighting with them, and what evidence can they present that they did. And who was in the sidelines, grandstanding and shouting MUH PRINCIPLES!!! to supposedly their own side.

This is the time to create that track record. It will be too late when the war is won.

Blogger Markku October 11, 2017 11:07 AM  

And I don't mean "give ur monies to alt heroz". I mean, do SOMETHING in which you risk something of your own. Even if it's just the security in the knowledge that you probably won't be called racist in the immediate foreseeable future.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother October 11, 2017 11:11 AM  

Conservatives don't want to be mean.

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative October 11, 2017 11:11 AM  

But...but...but...muh new shoes! Muh clean pant cuffs! Muh BOW TIE and PRINCIPLES!

Blogger Markku October 11, 2017 11:12 AM  

Did you know that if you cuck enough, your hair will grow to be just like Mitt Romney's?

Anonymous Looking Glass October 11, 2017 11:12 AM  

The thing that bugs me about the big "conservatives" is they apparently hate making more money. They're already the Liberal Boogeymen, just go all in & have fun doing it. If you're made 100s of millions already, you're clearly immune from a lot of things.

Or, get better friends. (Apparently the advice I've given broke guys applies to billionaires as well.)

Each time this comes up, it's clear "Conservative" thought was hijacked by neo-liberals that simply wanted the trains to actually run on time. It's the reason they keep importing Commonwealth writers, I think. It's instinct to suppress American or Rightwing thought.

At minimum, the lesson of the Trump Era: the Left gives you two options, submit or die. When given, go full Chad. Mock the Soy Boys. Taunt them. Crush them & be merry.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 11, 2017 11:13 AM  

@5 Markku

A bit back when I was making Romney memes, I really was struck by how great his hair is. Too bad everything below it was made of limp cheddar.

Anonymous Slen October 11, 2017 11:15 AM  

After the Trumpening is complete, it will be glorious to shave their heads as a visual sign of their humiliation.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 11:15 AM  

@3 Stg58
Conservatives don't want to be mean.

More than that, conservatives need to be seen as "nice". They really care what other people think, including what their enemies think. That's one reason conservatives have been losing for generations.

Blogger McChuck October 11, 2017 11:16 AM  

Let us all bow our heads a moment in silent reflection of our patron saints, Andrew Breitbart, Anders Breivik, and Charles Martel. Let us then praise with great praise our current champion, James O'Keefe.

Blogger Dirtnapninja October 11, 2017 11:16 AM  

The French in ww2 put up a hell of a fight. They were simply beaten and no longer in a position to continue meaningful organised resistance. The modern conservatives do not even WANT to fight. They are more than happy being the Vichy Right..nice, tame, controlled satraps for the left, As long as they keep their lucrative jobs and social status they do not care.

Blogger Nick S October 11, 2017 11:17 AM  

Fractionation via derogatory rhetoric has an advantage, in the long term, over compelling, point by point, exegetical argumentation?

Blogger Markku October 11, 2017 11:18 AM  

This is an absolute history fact: In the first centuries AD, Greek medicine thought that the function of human hair is to give suction to semen, so that it would raise up more easily from the testicles. (By capillary action, I imagine; but this part is my conjecture).

So, if you suck enough d-- principles, it goes to your hair. Then you, too, can look like Mitt.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab October 11, 2017 11:20 AM  

The conservatives fall into two big camps, the guys who are money conservatives and those who are just democrats with twenty year old positions. Some are genuine but those guys remind me of the last of the guys who wore powdered wigs. They are out of time and don't realize they've been passed by.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 11:22 AM  

This would also be a great time to open up some Mann Act investigations.

Anonymous Slen October 11, 2017 11:22 AM  

Dirtnapninja wrote:... The modern conservatives do not even WANT to fight. They are more than happy being the Vichy Right..nice, tame, controlled satraps for the left, As long as they keep their lucrative jobs and social status they do not care.

Lookin" at you Charlie Sykes!

Blogger Harambe October 11, 2017 11:27 AM  

Markku wrote:This is an absolute history fact: In the first centuries AD, Greek medicine thought that the function of human hair is to give suction to semen, so that it would raise up more easily from the testicles. (By capillary action, I imagine; but this part is my conjecture).

So, if you suck enough d-- principles, it goes to your hair. Then you, too, can look like Mitt.


Someone's been listening to Michael Heiser, I see.

Blogger Harambe October 11, 2017 11:28 AM  

The Babylon Bee needs a Production Studio.

Blogger Markku October 11, 2017 11:30 AM  

I think Heiser would be DELIGHTED to hear that his material is not only useful for understanding difficult Biblical passages, but also for insulting cuckservatives.

Blogger Harambe October 11, 2017 11:33 AM  

Now we just need to get Jordan Peterson involved

Blogger ZhukovG October 11, 2017 11:33 AM  

@Dirtnapninja: Vichy is the word. The establishment conservatives have been controlled opposition since 1955. The rest are just collaborators hoping to hold onto to the remains of their quiet middle class life until they die. To hell with their kids and grandkids.

The Alt-Right is the true resistance.

Anonymous Sylo Qwertz October 11, 2017 11:38 AM  

an awful lot of establishment conservatives are closeted homos; so there's that. the rest are just natural pussies. very enjoyable to see their world falling in around their heads the fukkers...

Blogger VFM #7634 October 11, 2017 11:47 AM  

"Wealthy conservatives are delighted to support the Philharmonic"

I thought that was wealthy liberals. Wealthy conservatives tend to be all about their negroball teams.

Anonymous Humanist Not Leftist October 11, 2017 11:48 AM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:@3 Stg58

Conservatives don't want to be mean.

More than that, conservatives need to be seen as "nice". They really care what other people think, including what their enemies think. That's one reason conservatives have been losing for generations.


Many people of whom I once though better fall into this trap (most of them women, but a few emasculated men). One couple, relatives by marriage, finally realized, after years of pretending to be Conservative that the issues they cared about indicated that they were actually Liberal. Single payer health care! Immigration! Be nice so that the "right" people don't yell at you!
(Then again, they work in the book publishing industry, so they were likely red-pilled pretty hard by Torlings and they have to get along to go along.)
Many of the others who fall into this same trap are actually good Christian women, for whom being seen as "nice" or "loving" or "tolerant" or "non-judgmental, like Jesus said" seems to be more important than any long-term action to actually preserve the Western Christian culture.

In my work, I do what Markku calls us Men of the West to do: as a college English instructor, I assign many readings which go against the current zeitgeist of liberal thinking (no gay marriage, no transgender bathrooms, arm teachers to be safe, etc.) as counters to the vast cesspool of modern liberal academic thinking. I don't just assign them to be read; we actively discuss the merits and strengths of the arguments. I see few students who are actual leftists (at the freshman level, mind you), and a few who are the opposite. Most seem to be people who just want to do "the right thing," which they have been taught is the "left" thing. They haven't ever seen any principled resistance from the right, since the conservatives long ago gave up the fight in popular culture.

Blogger ZhukovG October 11, 2017 11:50 AM  

@VFM #7634: Since wealthy conservatives and liberals go to the same cocktail parties it's hard to tell the difference.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 11, 2017 11:55 AM  

For Christians, always remember.

"Nice" is evil.
"Nice" puts emotions above Truth.
"Nice" is Anti-Christian.

Never let that pass.

Anonymous BBGKB October 11, 2017 12:01 PM  

It would be so easy for them to fight back. All of the lefts poster boys from gay marriage to good moslems to drying while black (on probation for gangshooting) always turn out to be horrible examples.

Moslem Beauty Queen Who Modeled for UK Labor Party Was Convicted of #MoslemTerror:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4964358/Convicted-jihadi-given-job-London-council.html

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 11, 2017 12:05 PM  

Wealthy conservatives are no different than other conservatives. The only thing they've conserved are the gains made by the Marxoid left. Dead communists like MLK are celebrated as conservative 'Christian' saints. Maybe not actively recruited by CIA as controlled opposition a la William F. Cuckley, but willing to parrot his thoughts and cough up funds to keep a place like NR cucking along. As for the Philharmonic (e.g. western classical music), it's totally run by the SJWs as well.

Blogger Timmy3 October 11, 2017 12:06 PM  

The movie industry is a sink hole. Not sure how or why it should be taken over, but it is already being overtaken by Amazon and Netflix. Alt-Right is a new phenomenon and it has little to do with mainstream Conservatism. So the pickle is what audience do you want? What content do you want? What is the distribution network? Even the major studios appear to be willing to act as distributors if the project is right. The swamp is most major talent is unacceptable as hires.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 11, 2017 12:11 PM  

As for the Philharmonic (e.g. western classical music), it's totally run by the SJWs as well.

@28 Gen. Kong
It might be worth a shot to try to make a foray into western classical music (specifically, composition) in the same way Alt-Hero does into comics, or Castalia House into scifi/fantasy.

Blogger Brian S October 11, 2017 12:19 PM  

they wont even defend gun culture

https://youtu.be/sCLoIorYguU

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 11, 2017 12:21 PM  

Joe Sobran once wrote about conservatve respectables.

Blogger Kathy October 11, 2017 12:21 PM  

I would love to see more movies and tv shows made by conservatives. (Wow! Outlander if it had made by conservatives? The series already has core principals of Family and Nationalism. Unfortunately it gets bogged down by "Claire needs to be a strong woman crapola" ) All the Conservative run tv channels show are politics, politics, politics. How about good old fashioned tv shows made for families?

I'd also like to see more conservative female authors out there writing for other females. It might seem nuts but some of us happen to like romance novels, I've had to stop buying books because too many authors stick 21st century women and values into a 19th century story.

Blogger Eric Slate October 11, 2017 12:23 PM  

Our culture is so focused on threats by enemies with weapons that we've forgotten how to deal with threats by enemies without them.

Even today, our conservative leaders are scared of other countries attacking us, but fail to consider internal threats.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass October 11, 2017 12:23 PM  

Sylo Qwertz wrote:an awful lot of establishment conservatives are closeted homos; so there's that. the rest are just natural pussies. very enjoyable to see their world falling in around their heads the fukkers...

I smiled at that.

Brian S wrote:they wont even defend gun culture

https://youtu.be/sCLoIorYguU


Good news is only 10% of bills actually make it into law. Having said that, disgusting and par for the course. Also, Curbelo has to go back.

I say let Hollywood burn. Then, take it over

Anonymous Hammerman October 11, 2017 12:31 PM  

Spot on. The chucks run around bleating but don’t EVER try to attack. This is one reason I buy Castilia house books. Vox fights!

Anonymous AltitudeZero October 11, 2017 12:43 PM  

This is somewhat tangential, but its good to see someone who recognizes that the French in WWII were hardly a mass of fleeing cowards. The French suffered somewhere between 55,000 and 85,000 killed in six weeks of fighting; that's more than we lost during the entire Vietnam war. That's hardly a casualty rate that one would expect of cowards.

The French Army in 1940 was very much like the US and ARVN armies in the late 1960's; they were hampered by defective doctrine, betrayed by a scheming elite, and stabbed in the back by Communists on the home front, but cowards they were not...

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 12:44 PM  

@33
I'd also like to see more conservative female authors out there writing for other females. It might seem nuts but some of us happen to like romance novels, I've had to stop buying books because too many authors stick 21st century women and values into a 19th century story.

Need to refine your pitch, if you want Castalia House to publish romance. Castalia publishes red-pill SF and also Western fiction, so why not diversify to sell to women?

In the meantime, used booksellers are your friend. When I gave up on pink SF coughAnalogcough about 10 years back there was plenty of good SF in the used bookstores.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 11, 2017 12:44 PM  

Subtext aspect: this is part of the reason a lot of us have come to love Trump. He stood up and hit back. Then hit back harder. And harder. And harder, until he won.

You can't win a war with tweed; you need courage and balls. Trump doesn't have any tweed, so he'll make due without. For that, praise the Lord!

Anonymous CPEG October 11, 2017 12:50 PM  

@Harambe
"The Babylon Bee needs a Production Studio."

They do have a book coming out.

Blogger Thucydides October 11, 2017 12:55 PM  

We should be grateful that Hollywood seems to have scored an own goal with the Harvey Weinstein story. It opens up many avenues of approach to breaking the networks of power, influence and finance that the Progressives have built over the decades.

Attacking Democrat politicians for failing to speak, demanding they return campaign contributions (or going after them even harder if they fail to do so) and actively uncovering linkages between Democrat politicians and Hollywood will put them further on the back foot, and make their brand toxic to the apolitical Americans who normally have little to no interest in politics.

Vox always tells us that culture is upstream of politics. so now there is an opening to drive into.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 1:00 PM  

@41
We should be grateful that Hollywood seems to have scored an own goal with the Harvey Weinstein story. It opens up many avenues of approach to breaking the networks of power, influence and finance that the Progressives have built over the decades.

"Make them live up to their own rules". Works for me.

Anonymous TPC October 11, 2017 1:01 PM  

@38
Ugh, no. Castalia House doesn't need to be the One True Conservative Publishing House. There is room in the marketplace for at least half a dozen right-wing/conservative presses of freaking BAEN's size and library. At Castalia's current size there is room for a couple dozen.

Starting a press is very cheap and easy and if you want right-wing/conservative romance, is a better bet than the irritating and near-endless demands that Castalia do it alllllll. Let them freaking stay mostly specialized and start up some more options for people. I buy some Castalia stuff, but that it's not "for me" as a woman is fine by me. It doesn't need to be all things to all conservatives.

Anonymous 360 October 11, 2017 1:01 PM  

Can confirm. I've infiltrated several liberal FB groups in my town and can vouch for their rabid activism. They are actively getting out and doing things to promote their agenda.

On the other hand, it is pulling teeth to get conservatives to do anything. You can maybe get them to give some money, maybe.

Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2017 1:10 PM  

> Did you know that if you cuck enough, your hair will grow to be just like Mitt Romney's?

It's called Rogaine. :)

> If you're made 100s of millions already, you're clearly immune from a lot of things.

If you've got even two million, you're immune from a lot of things. More is better, of course, but $2M is probably enough for most people.

Anonymous KRYST October 11, 2017 1:33 PM  

you fucking pathetic homo lover (((ted)). what a dishonest fuck. none of those jews you listed fight. they sell fake news and shitty e-books. for shekels. they are intellectual cowards. like you. you are all jews. you are so obviously jewish. short, balding, and fake...no principles. no pride...just a lust for shekels.

retweeting canned stories from years ago, like (((cernokike))) does, is not fighting.
sitting on fucking social mediaiazs for 18 hours a day retweeting haaretz and alt kike sock puppets, like (((cernokike))) does, is not fighting.
bragging about banging trannies and selling blue pills mixed with fitjuice like (((cernokike))) does, is not fighting.

bragging about downing nigger dick and gargling shitskin semen for "lols" might pass of an humor to a dorky boomer like yourself, but i assure you, it isn't funny and it isn't fighting. creating fake news to promote yourself while stealing money from other people isn't fighting, it's called being a fucking degenerate kike. making the case that pedophilia is ok, is not fighting.

making jewtube videos while being a bald guy that just repeats what he sees elsewhere, is not fighting.

look we get it you want to pretend like you are media and not the (((media))) but you are in fact (((fake news media)))...you are so pathetic you have accounts to spam other websites. i can't go to (((freerepublic))) because it has (((cernokike and milo))) trying to spam their fake bullshit there. what kind of "man" does that? a fucking fake jew like you.

if you were honest and hadn't sold your tiny jew soul to two faggot jews for the chance at shekels, you could see that.

none of you are leaders. just purveyors of trash and clickbait. snake oil salesmen...posers.

you getting this?

since the alt kike aka the fence sitting jewish libertarians ala yarvin...who by the way, is a fucking idiot...(if it takes you 100000 words to say something that only should take 1000, you are by definition and fucking nerd idiot with too much time on your hands...) love to make fake titles up for themselves, because you in fact are a bunch of nobodies...lmamloamlamoaooo "national security expert reporter, investigative reporter" lmaoooooo "mentally challenged lying lisp plagued tranny cock addict" is more like it lmalalaooo...

Blogger S1AL October 11, 2017 1:35 PM  

"The French Army in 1940 was very much like the US and ARVN armies in the late 1960's; they were hampered by defective doctrine, betrayed by a scheming elite, and stabbed in the back by Communists on the home front, but cowards they were not..."

Hell, de Gaulle had Blitzkrieg figured out at around the same time the Germans did.

Also had some pithy observations about the French as a culture.

Blogger dc.sunsets October 11, 2017 1:41 PM  

A "conservative" fighting the Left might be more inclined to start a firearm or ammo manufacturing firm than a movie studio.

Are there enough "creative types" on the Right to staff up a studio? How many Milo's are there, really?

Anonymous Uncle John's Band October 11, 2017 1:59 PM  

Many who present a “conservative” front enjoy frolicking in the barely-hidden cesspool of elite culture. Just another form of hypocritical virtue signaling to mask a debased nature. The last thing anyone like that wants is a real change in the status quo.

The alt-right is inevitable because it is rooted in empirical observation. It does not begin with an arbitrary set of principles disconnected from anything real, so it lacks that space between ideological purity and reality where conservatives often hide. The more circumstances force people to face reality, the less false ideological fronts matter.

Blogger Scott C October 11, 2017 2:00 PM  

Since when is Cernovich a conservative? He stated that he believed in sexual and racial equality two years ago on Twitter.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 2:07 PM  

@43 TPC
There is room in the marketplace for at least half a dozen right-wing/conservative presses of freaking BAEN's size and library. At Castalia's current size there is room for a couple dozen.


That works, too. I'm just saying if women want their romfic without SJW crap, they need to do something about that.

Anonymous BBGKB October 11, 2017 2:16 PM  

Are there enough "creative types" on the Right to staff up a studio? How many Milo's are there, really?

Maybe if there were high schools out there that had art teachers that didn't blow their students you could find some. Anyone with creative experience past dinner theatre has had the casting couch.

Ugh, no. Castalia House doesn't need to be the One True Conservative Publishing House.

https://www.paladin-press.com/ books is going out of business in December, its founder died. sale on now.
Good news is only 10% of bills actually make it into law.

California To Allow Thousands Of Sex Offenders To 'Opt-Out' Of Register
105,000 (currently listed) rapists, pedophiles & sex offenders will be offered the chance to “opt out” of the sex offenders register, thanks to new legislation, SB 384, signed by Gov. Jerry Brown. Ref: Bill Text - SB-421

Blogger Sam Lively October 11, 2017 2:32 PM  

@40

I like the spirit behind Babylon Bee, but that's not culture war. It's Millennial-flavored Christian comedy.

Comfortable niche-casting in the extent of Christian media creation.

The closest thing to an actual culture warrior in the high-end content creation world is Mel Gibson. And he's doing that in spite of himself (spouts PC platitudes with the best of them while making savagely un-PC movies).

Blogger Robert Coble October 11, 2017 2:34 PM  

Jonah Goldberg has to fire right, even when he is supposedly firing left:

Weinstein scandal leaves a trail of hypocrisy

After the obligatory "piling on" about Weinstein, he inserts this garbage:

So far, many right-wing readers are probably nodding along to this column. Well, stop. If you never spoke up about Trump, or if you responded to those accusations with a dismissive, "What about Bill Clinton?" you should probably just sit this one out.

Because if you decry piggish behavior only when it helps your side, or if you think accusers are telling the truth only when they speak up about people you hate (or don't need professionally), then you don't actually care about sexual harassment.


Actually, I really don't care about "sexual harassment" of a bunch of people who would f~$k Weinstein for a movie part - or a political donation. A ho is gonna ho, as long as the price is right and the opportunity arises.

Hey, Hillary, when you gonna give Harvey his money back?

OpenID doktorjeep October 11, 2017 2:38 PM  

I had a friend take the floor at a county-level GOP convention and recite the 10 Planks of Communism and publicly ask what the GOP has done about it. Then we chased state judge candidates around the floor with questions about jury nullification. It's fun watching these demi-gods get scared.

You know what? Conservatives deserve antifa. I have spent my life watching boomer conservatives basically screw the pooch because they didn't want to jeopardize their 5 acre fake farm in the sticks and their Chevy Suburban.

On the state GOP convention floor after they totally dissed Ron Paul I warned them that this will be dealt with in ways they don't like. They called me names, got in my face, and when I got back in theirs they ran to the nearest cop claiming they felt threatened. (just like an SJW - because the ENTIRE operation of the GOP and the SJWs is one big NEOCON operation).

With a radical left that actually wants to kill people, and with a lot of fat boomer conservatives with big fat wifey in tow afraid to do anything beyond play Rush Limbaugh a little louder in their SUV as they drive down "hipster row" in the city, it's sad that a lot of them will die.

But I spent 2 decades warning them, 2 decades saying stand up and fight. 2 decades pushing a "hard target" community so that anybody thinking they are going to go full Red October (the historical event, not the movie) has to think twice.

And 22000 of them got long-range ambushed by people with possible ISIS ties and ISIS and the left have a bit of an accord going. But look, the makers of slide-fire stocks are going to get sued now. YEAH! That'll show ... uh.. somebody... who the boss is!

I should be sad. But I'm not. Thanks to modernity there's no skin in the game for me and I can watch the world burn. But I'm sworn to help Gen Z burn the boomers and boomerism in the fires of comeuppance. It's the only revenge we can get.

Blogger seeingsights October 11, 2017 2:48 PM  

Donald Trump is the rare exception of person on the Right who is fighting the culture war.
Trump got some pro football owners and the commissioner to change their tune concerning the national anthem.
I'm an investor. I swear, if I was a billionaire i would seek to take over companies just to throw out all the SJWs and political correctness.

Anonymous Ivan Throne October 11, 2017 2:58 PM  

I mean, do SOMETHING in which you risk something of your own. Even if it's just the security in the knowledge that you probably won't be called racist in the immediate foreseeable future.

Markku is correct.

This is why I will be in Austin, Texas on October 21-22 training men ahead of the Refuse Fascism and Antifa riots planned for November 4.

And why I will be back there on the ground in Austin on November 4.

We all have a responsibility to do what we can. That is different for each of us, and I do not measure men against each other's contributions - but rather by what they do contribute v. what they are capable of. And it is a utilitarian judgment, not a moral one.

Do what you can. Do a little more. Do it each day, even if the doing is merely hardening resolve.

I tell you you will be tested in the months and years ahead.

Regards,

Ivan

P.S. I've promised Vox a flag for his office if one comes in range.

Anonymous A. Saxon October 11, 2017 2:59 PM  

Paladin Press ripped off Kurt Saxon. RIPiss.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr October 11, 2017 3:01 PM  

I refuse to call them "conservatives" any longer. Trump isn't the God Emperor, he's the Illuminator - the man who brought the Great Big Spotlight to the dark, dank swamp.

The Democrats have long had a policy of doing as much hurt to the USA as their Propaganda Press toadies could cover up. There is NO problem that the Dems don't milk for votes.

But the GOPe has an equally sordid history of doing NOTHING for its base. Their attitude has been, "Those peasants have to vote for us because the Dems are worse." They see no benefit to actually solving problems...like the Dems, they have turned to problem milking as an industry.

Vox isn't the first to point out the need for a major cultural offensive - Professor Reynolds has been calling for big bucks GOP donors to buy a women's magazine for a good decade.

But there's opportunity. Opportunity to hit hard...and make a fortune in the process.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 3:03 PM  

KRYST that is lame trolling. It's boring.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 11, 2017 3:08 PM  

@60 Ivan Throne
Do what you can. Do a little more. Do it each day, even if the doing is merely hardening resolve.

This.

Blogger ZhukovG October 11, 2017 3:11 PM  

@BBGKB: I did the Dinner Theater gig when I was a teen. While, I avoided too much unwelcome attention, it cured me of wanting to try to go any further in show business.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind October 11, 2017 3:14 PM  

And in totally related news, the Boy Scouts of America will now admit girls to their programs.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/10/11/boy-scouts-of-america-is-now-allowing-girls-to-join/

I am an eagle scout myself, and don't plan on having my sons join the program. Boys need a place for their own activities. I will just be teaching my kids the same skills on their own.

Blogger J Van Stry October 11, 2017 4:00 PM  

I used to be very active in conservative politics. So many times I'd tell people we needed to do something, to attack the other side, and I was always poo-pooed and told that it wasn't right, or it was rude, or some other lame ass excuse.

Then after we lost that battle some people would say 'maybe we should have listened to John' but the next time around? Nope! Can't fight to win, because that's below us! It's RUDE and UNSEEMLY!

So yeah, I dumped the conservative party and haven't had anything to do with them for decades. They not only don't understand the concept of 'winning' they don't -want- to win. Because it might cost them party invites and easy sex with the hot and loose liberal chicks who'd sleep with anybody.

I've seen more conservatives sell out over sex than over money. Sad.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 4:10 PM  

Seriously, the only places I can find the will to fight, creativity, playfulness, and mental toughness are places like this. A conservative may sometimes have a slight sense of humor, but not often, and then not too far.

Still that's better then the Globalist Left, where actual violence is everywhere, and the lack of civilization even strikes their in-groups. Destroy creativity, and violence grows. People cannot live a checklist or an external narrative.

Blogger VD October 11, 2017 4:15 PM  

Kryst, you're banned and spammed. Go away and don't come back.

Anonymous c matt October 11, 2017 4:19 PM  

the conservative movement has repeatedly proven to be useless, totally useless,

I disagree - it is less than useless, it is counterproductive. It drains resources from those who would actually improve things.

Hey, Hillary, when you gonna give Harvey his money back?

I think he actually paid her to not ho on him.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 4:22 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> Did you know that if you cuck enough, your hair will grow to be just like Mitt Romney's?

It's called Rogaine. :)

> If you're made 100s of millions already, you're clearly immune from a lot of things.

If you've got even two million, you're immune from a lot of things. More is better, of course, but $2M is probably enough for most people.


James,
Two million is not even close to upper middle class now, it takes at minimum 5 or 6 and 10 is better.

Anonymous Dave October 11, 2017 4:38 PM  

Liberals are the leisure class -- trust funders, government/NGO/non-profit employees, eternal students, professional protesters, and welfare breeders. Conservatives work hard at real jobs or run their own businesses while also raising families. They have little time or energy to read novels, comic books, or deep, Moldbuggian works of political philosophy. And they tend to hold a lot of unexamined assumptions of a liberal nature.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2017 4:41 PM  

VD wrote:Kryst, you're banned and spammed. Go away and don't come back.
The Supreme Dark Lord is merciful. Thank you.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 4:45 PM  

The only good things you can say about "conservatives" that are not part of the Globalist camp, is they are more "head-in-the-sand scared, rather than hateful scared like the Globalists and SJWs.

Also, conservatives seem completely clueless about culture creativity, where a few of the Leftists still understand what it is, but they are involved in destruction, so their options have bee shrinking for years. The Civic Nationalist type conservatives do have one semi-creative ability now, and that is to see through about 2/3 of the Globalist Left's Narrative, and their GOPe co-conspirators.

But, counter-attacking the deep culture wars with their own creative culture moves. They have not eve considered the possibility. Alt*Hero is critical. Goes way beyond Stefan and Jordan's videos.

Anonymous solutreansolution October 11, 2017 4:47 PM  

Man did this post ever hit the spot. In situations like this, where chaos has been created, and there is a LEGIT hunger for not even "alt-right" movies and shows (although there is that too), but just "alt-normie" media that DOESN'T have to star Kevin Sorbo...just back to basics stuff, like all those cowgirl movies on Netflix our family likes. Imagine Disney, but without the gay stuff, or a Sci-fi or Fantasy, without "grrrllll power".

James Woods, et al, could swiftly move in, have a press conference, start a new media group, and even if it took time, get more investors and start making regular movies and programming (including Youtube, or whatever).

THEY.WON'T.DO.IT. They cry about the structures libs have made, but they will not build over them, once they crumble.

Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2017 4:50 PM  

> Two million is not even close to upper middle class now, it takes at minimum 5 or 6 and 10 is better.

a) Most people aren't upper middle class.
b) What qualifies as upper middle class varies widely depending on where you live.
c) At 2.5% (the last time I looked) $2M will give you $50K+ year in income just from CD's. You can do better than that with stocks.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 5:04 PM  

People that have 2 million, usually over half is non-liquid, and most people with 2 million today still constantly worry about money. Just saying, and they are not me. I see people in their middle 60's and up still worrying about their future, and whether they can afford to live out their lives in comfort. I want Western Civilization to revitalize, and have already had a wonderful life, which had nothing to do with money beyond just enough.

My uncle was a retired lawyer though, who worked for a large corporation, and he retired some years ago with what was probably about 12 million, and told me he was just "comfortably middle class," so I use his standards for other people who are not as odd as me.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 11, 2017 5:08 PM  

It's called Rogaine. :)

Mix with Viagra and you get Don King

Anonymous DeeJay October 11, 2017 5:13 PM  

To be fair though, an (extremely!) successful crowdfunding is still no substitute for the finished product, as we've notoriously seen with the Dungeons & Dragons documentary film(s). I think once Alt-Hero is actually 'out there' in the marketplace, you'll see much of the right-media immediately rallying around it -- even amongst those who aren't particularly alt-right in their political views.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 5:33 PM  

DeeJay wrote:To be fair though, an (extremely!) successful crowdfunding is still no substitute for the finished product, as we've notoriously seen with the Dungeons & Dragons documentary film(s). I think once Alt-Hero is actually 'out there' in the marketplace, you'll see much of the right-media immediately rallying around it -- even amongst those who aren't particularly alt-right in their political views.

No, none of the talking Right will at first say much good, and it will be a populist move first. Some populists will even reject at first because "Alt," but that will change, as, surprise, good stories. It will have two or three stages of breakouts before any right-media gives it a nod.Many, if not most talkers/media will never say good things, but bad things work too.

A lot of Southerners will give it a shot just because "Rebel." Also, young boys, because cool heroines.

Blogger tuberman October 11, 2017 5:41 PM  

One of the great things about this Alt*Hero project is that the good stories, and the creativity will show new people on the Right that "Alt" is not what they have been told it is, and some at first, then many later, will have a more open mind.

Blogger Feather Blade October 11, 2017 6:20 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Are there enough "creative types" on the Right to staff up a studio?

There are, but most of those who are employed are flying under the radar.

Some of them are working on their own production systems. I met the guy in charge of this: https://www.theforgestudios.com/
about 10 years back, near DC.

Anonymous Big bark. Not so much bite. October 11, 2017 7:12 PM  

Thats why Africans in the repub party is what is needed they are tougher. Thats why its counter productive if the alt right pushes away Africans. Now moderate African Republicans is NOT what is needed. Hard core African Republicans with some PUNCH like Vox is what is needed. Ive seen some on Fox. The alt right should recruit them.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2017 7:51 PM  

Big bark. Not so much bite. wrote:Thats why Africans in the repub party is what is needed they are tougher.
Cuck harder.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 11, 2017 7:55 PM  

Thats why Africans in the repub party is what is needed they are tougher.

@80
They're also mostly psychopaths, which is why the Democrat party is a much better fit for them.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf October 11, 2017 8:17 PM  

I immediately backed the Alt-Hero campaign at 150 and will up my backing soon. For what its worth, I used to blog quite a bit on a Science Forum (presumably, filled with scientists like myself). I had a history of about 10 years there. My account was seized when I produced a cogent argument showing the strong correlation between IQ and socioeconomic status. The data is clear, the regulated US western economic system efficiently sorts people on IQ. I image a free market would be even more efficient. The Left reached its goal, Americans are not economic racists. I'm not even an economist, but a biichemist. My ephany was sudden, what a waste of time it is trying to use dialectical debate. Almost a total waste, it does allow for personal growth and insight, but don't imagine you're going to alter the opinion of someone based on reason and evidence. Especially so called scientists. Who should know better.
Anyway..... I, a classic liberal, am now in the fight for the Alt-Right.

Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2017 8:56 PM  

> People that have 2 million, usually over half is non-liquid, and most people with 2 million today still constantly worry about money.

What's one of the dominant themes on this blog again? Oh, that's right, MPAI. As I said, $2M is $50K/year in income. More if you have any idea what you're doing or have the right people handling your money.

> ...years ago with what was probably about 12 million, and told me he was just "comfortably middle class,

By the same standards as above (CD rates), $12M translates to $300K/year. That sounds like a bit better than "comfortably middle class"" to me. Obviously YMMV.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit October 11, 2017 9:33 PM  

The chattering class on the internet, the big money conservatives, and the establishment bureaucrats are the tip of the conservative iceberg in the U.S. When it comes to political fundraising, the Right has traditionally had to depend on a million $100 donations vs. the Left's 100 million-dollar ones. Most Trump voters barely know what the alt-Right is, and would identify themselves as conservative if asked.

So you'd probably be surprised at the number of ordinary folk, people who don't post on blogs and only share pictures of their kids on Facebook who are risking their jobs and their relationships to push back in the culture war. But their numbers are growing. Too late? I pray not.

As for conservative Hollywood: Criminal Minds, Beyond Borders with Gary Sinese is unabashedly Superversive despite being a horror-movie-of-the-week program. Father Brown keeps surprising me, despite having to put in one show each season to appease their demon-masters (and they still subtly tweak their noses in the process)Christian and conservative movie makers are struggling to build product that can steal Hollywood's audience with stories like The Stray.

Honestly, I think the conservatives are fighting back. But they're out-gunned, out-flanked, fighting at the bottom of a ravine, and too easily distracted by helpful cries of "Look! Over there! It's a RACIST!"

It's not as snappy a headline of course: "Conservatives always seem to start fighting back too late." Except for the establishment cucks. They just shoot at our backs.

Blogger Brian Niemeier October 11, 2017 9:50 PM  

Simon's call for conservatives to stage a hostile takeover of Hollywood wouldn't be necessary if conservative studio owners hadn't given away the farm in the 60s and 70s.

Walt Disney rounded up and fired all of the commies who worked for his studio. Look at his empire now. Hollywood used to enforce a system that kept the talent in line--or at least made sure they presented a decent image to the public. Now some of them are making excuses for a serial abuser.

It's the same story in every corner of the entertainment industry. Go read Safe Space as Rape Room. Look into the tragic fates that befell far too many child TV actors. Neither area of research is recommended for the faint of heart.

The Left is my implacable enemy, but I understand their motives and their success is impressive in a twisted way. But I despise the conservative guardians of our culture who sold us out and who still refuse to fight.

Anonymous CoolHand October 11, 2017 10:09 PM  

@84 Depends entirely on where you live.

$300k in San Fransisco barely rents you a shitty one room apartment.

$300k where I live would build you a damned nice 2,500 sq ft house on five acres free and clear.

That guy in SF is "lower middle class" or maybe "poor" depending on who's labeling, while the guy where I live is solidly "upper middle class" no matter who you ask.

Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2017 10:23 PM  

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Blogger James Dixon October 11, 2017 10:25 PM  

> Depends entirely on where you live.

Yes, but with $300K/year of retirement income, you can live pretty much wherever you want.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 11, 2017 10:46 PM  

Everybody in America thinks they are middle class, which they usually define as "at least 80% of my income, but no more than 110%."

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit October 12, 2017 2:28 AM  

N.B.

Hypothesis: artistic creativity requires synergy. Synergy requires other people. (There is a reason civilisation comes from the word city.)

Therefore conservatives and others on the right will be less creative because they are isolated and fragmented.

Supporting evidence: YouTube anti-SJW Virtual cities, Mormon science fiction and fantasy especially children's and young adult science fiction and fantasy from the Brigham Young university writing program. Mad Genius Club.

If I am correct, what are the implications for those who want to,as you so aptly put it, fight back in the creative media?

Blogger tuberman October 12, 2017 4:39 AM  

Going back to "conservatives won't fight," in the sense of culture wars it is somewhat different. Most conservatives simply believe any creativity is outside their area, and they cannot ever imagine themselves being creative. If asked, they would likely give you a blank stare.

If most conservatives were tied down to discuss it, they would think it was the realm of "genius," or that you need to be a debauched "free thinker," or some such.

Areas like games and comics are a wonderful introduction for GenZ back into the culture wars from the Right, and music would be too, if approached correctly.

VD has hit on a major theme here, conservatives are defensive...well, because they hardly ever look at themselves as even possibly being creative. Also, any creative people on the Right, especially in music or writing, the Leftist have always tried hard to destroy, hold back or absorb (as ion turn them Leftist).

The Right absolutely needs to win the culture war on the creative level to renew Western Civilization, and if not renewed it will perish.

Blogger Timmy3 October 12, 2017 10:31 AM  

Just saw this “What if the right-wing media wins?
Conservative critics of the press want more than just a louder voice. They want The New York Times and The Washington Post to go away.”

The media wars is making good progress. Hollywood would have to wait. It’s imploding on its own.

Blogger Timmy3 October 12, 2017 10:35 AM  

“Will The Ben Affleck Scandal Affect 'Justice League's Box Office?”

Let them know. Damn right. Stay away.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2017 1:58 PM  

> Hypothesis: artistic creativity requires synergy. Synergy requires other people

I would say "is greatly improved by" rather than "requires".

> Everybody in America thinks they are middle class, which they usually define as "at least 80% of my income, but no more than 110%."

Well, there's lower middle class, middle class, and upper middle class. All of which are malleable depending on where you are living.

There probably are some general rules. In most areas (i.e., not LA, SF, NYC, etc.), over $50K/year in income probably makes you lower middle class. Over 100K probably makes you anywhere from middle class to upper middle class depending on the area. Over 200K probably makes you upper middle class. Over $500K probably makes you rich. As already noted, the exact figures vary widely by region.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2017 2:26 PM  

James Dixon wrote:... over $50K/year in income probably makes you lower middle class.

The source of your income is far more important than the amount. If your income comes from current employment or pension from past employment, you are middle class or below. If your income comes from investments, perhaps supplemented by current employment, you are upper middle class or above.

Anonymous Observatory. October 12, 2017 2:50 PM  

Also isnt it interesting Fox and Vox. Harder -v- sound with Vox instead of softer -f- sound with Fox.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2017 3:17 PM  

> The source of your income is far more important than the amount.

I don't see that, but you're welcome to explain further if you think you can convince me.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2017 3:45 PM  

@98 James Dixon: a wage slave with a large income is a wage slave. If the upper middles have jobs, they are light, attractive jobs which matter for the power or social status they bring, not for daily subsistence.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 12, 2017 4:40 PM  

James Dixon wrote:> The source of your income is far more important than the amount.

I don't see that ...


Now that I'm at a proper keyboard, I'll expand a little further. The source of your income is going to affect your life across the board. It will influence your opinions on the tax code: how should wages be taxed, versus how investment income is taxed? It will affect your attitude toward your job: is it an unpleasant necessity, or yet another luxury? If you're a wage slave, sickness means down time means ruin. If you're UMC, sickness is merely unpleasant.

Wage slaves get a vacation, while the upper middle class and above spend their summers at the beach or in the mountains, and winters in some pleasant spot, perhaps the Caribbean or ski resorts. This one isn't about the money, but about the free time.

Generally, a large income from current employment will produce a very different lifestyle and different attitudes than a large income from investments. Once the investment income rises to the point that employment income is optional, options and attitudes change.

This is why old money is different: someone who was raised with the UMC attitudes is going to approach life very differently than someone who was a wage slave until the pension kicked in, even though both may have exactly the same passive income.

Blogger James Dixon October 12, 2017 8:39 PM  

> ...a wage slave with a large income is a wage slave.

For a time, yes. But probably not for long, comparatively speaking. A salary of $300K would mean you could save at least $75K/year and still have $75K to live on. That puts a retirement amount of savings at about 20 years or so.

> The source of your income is going to affect your life across the board. It will influence your opinions on the tax code: how should wages be taxed, versus how investment income is taxed?

Yes, wages are taxed at a higher rate, especially taking into account Social Security and Medicare taxes. That's one of the problems I have with our tax code. But at the income level we're discussing, it's not a major problem.

> It will affect your attitude toward your job: is it an unpleasant necessity, or yet another luxury?

Well, I guess I'm lucky. I like my job, which makes it a pleasant necessity.

> This one isn't about the money, but about the free time.

Yes, I suspect very few people would choose to work a daily job if they had the option not to. But that has little to do with the income.

> Generally, a large income from current employment will produce a very different lifestyle and different attitudes than a large income from investments.

I wouldn't know. I've had to settle for relatively modest incomes from each.

> This is why old money is different: someone who was raised with the UMC attitudes is going to approach life very differently than someone who was a wage slave until the pension kicked in, even though both may have exactly the same passive income.

Yes, but I guess we disagree about why that would be "important". A life of relative leisure is obviously more pleasant than a life of drudgery, but I don't really consider those the important things in life. Money is really only important for the relative security of covering life's necessities it offers (and that more for my family than myself).

Blogger JaimeInTexas October 13, 2017 9:14 PM  

Income from wages are taxes differently than investments.
If inflow of money is due to wages, realistically, you can only have one full-time job and other wage generating job within the remaining hours plus sleep/rest.
You can have money inflows from as many investments as you wish and can afford.

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