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Monday, October 16, 2017

Kaepernick sues NFL for collusion

Colin Kaepernick confirms league-wide suspicions that he's more of a pain than he's worth:
Colin Kaepernick has been waiting patiently for his next NFL opportunity. His patience has now expired. PFT has confirmed that Kaepernick has filed a grievance against the NFL under the Collective Bargaining Agreement. The grievance alleges that the NFL’s teams colluded in not signing him to a contract, presumably due to his decision to kneel during the national anthem in 2016.

Kaepernick has retained outside counsel to handle the claim. The NFL Players Association will remain in touch with Kaepernick as the grievance proceeds; however, Kaepernick’s private counsel will be spearheading the effort.

The filing of the grievance was first reported by Mike Freeman of BleacherReport.com.

Kaepernick became a free agent in March after opting out of the final year of his contract with the 49ers. (San Francisco G.M. John Lynch has said that the team would have cut Kaepernick if he hadn’t opted out.) The Seahawks brought Kaepernick in for a visit, but did not sign him. The Ravens were considering adding Kaepernick during training camp. Owner Steve Bisciotti publicly acknowledged that fans had expressed opposition to the possibility.

The last straw may have been the failure of the Titans to give Kaepernick a tryout after quarterback Marcus Mariota suffered an injured hamstring. The Titans instead brought in Brandon Weeden, Matt McGloin, Matt Barkley, and T.J. Yates, before signing Weeden.
The clever part is that if Kaepernick wins, the Collective Bargaining Agreement will be voided, so even players who don't support Kaepernick will have an incentive to hope he wins. The not-so-clever part is that it appears highly unlikely that he will win. The fact that nobody wants him on their roster is not indicative of collusion, it is merely a sign that no team wants to anger its season-ticket holders.

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70 Comments:

Blogger bobby October 16, 2017 5:23 AM  

So a court or arbitrator will rule that the teams were only acting to keep its customer base happy.

But what happens then when it goes on to say that the customer base has acted improperly and in a discriminatory manner, and so the teams' actions take on the impropriety of the customers' act?

Remember, we're now in the era when the courts have ruled that Trump's statements made during a campaign - by themselves - made a proper action that he took later into an improper one.

We're in an era in which US agencies declined to prosecute a candidate for a criminal act that requires no intent because the actor lacked intent.

I think he'll win, at least until it gets to J. Gorsuch.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club October 16, 2017 5:32 AM  

"But what happens then when it goes on to say that the customer base has acted improperly and in a discriminatory manner, and so the teams' actions take on the impropriety of the customers' act?"

Still not collusion.

Blogger Anchorman October 16, 2017 5:41 AM  

No. It's consensus, not collusion. However, judges have been more social justice oriented than law oriented when they issued rulings. So, anything is possible.

Blogger Lovekraft October 16, 2017 5:42 AM  

Link to Jordan Peterson talking about the lowering of standards to accommodate the snowflakes (Harrison Bergeron referencded).

Kapernick is a special needs American.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0k-BPI2IQA

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 16, 2017 6:01 AM  

Funny thing is that if Kaepernick hadn't grown his 'fro, nobody would even know he's half black, let alone militant. He looks like an Arab to me.

Blogger Xmas October 16, 2017 6:04 AM  

No mention of Miami not picking him up because of his pro-castro statements? How strange.

Blogger James Dixon October 16, 2017 6:04 AM  

> No. It's consensus, not collusion.

The science is settled. Kaepernick sucks. 97% of all scientist agree. Expect a UN council to release a statement shortly.

Blogger Akulkis October 16, 2017 6:26 AM  

Keapernick is turning himself into a LOLCOW. Mooo!

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 16, 2017 6:30 AM  

Which University scooped up Tim Hunt after he was forced to resign? Which tech company made Brendan Eich CEO? Sounds like there is collusion in all industries.

Blogger Koanic October 16, 2017 6:34 AM  

He's had too many collisions to understand collusion.

Anonymous Steve October 16, 2017 6:37 AM  

Mebbe he should just identity as a working quarterback and get his own reality TV series called I AM COLIN

Blogger Akulkis October 16, 2017 6:42 AM  

In fact, he's a self-milking LOLCOW.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 16, 2017 7:05 AM  

Maybe he should have colluded with a playbook, first.

Blogger Cataline Sergius October 16, 2017 7:14 AM  

This one isn't going to be about winning the legal case.

It's going to be about winning the jury selection.

Blogger Stilicho October 16, 2017 7:14 AM  

Showing up at a QB tryout with a cardboard sign around your neck that says "I hate football" on one side and "will protest America for $$$" on the other is a time-honored way of getting the job. Calling potential employers "slave owners" usually helps as well.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 16, 2017 7:20 AM  

Kaepernick rolls the dice on his lawyers flummoxing a jury of his peers.

This sounds familiar; lose everything ir double your money;

Isn’t there a term for that?

I’ll bet his lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.

Anonymous DJF October 16, 2017 7:23 AM  

This story actually lead one of the National News programs (can't remember which since I was channel surfing). Both the anchor and the reporter were breathless about it. They reported that Kaepernick was a talented QB and the only reason no one hired him was the NFL trying to restrict his First Amendment Rights!!!!!

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 16, 2017 7:25 AM  

Resident Moron™ wrote:Kaepernick rolls the dice on his lawyers flummoxing a jury of his peers.

This sounds familiar; lose everything ir double your money;

Isn’t there a term for that?

I’ll bet his lawyers are laughing all the way to the bank.


Perhaps he took all the people mocking him for being a "oppressed millionaire" to heart. He is working on losing all his money now so he can truly be down with the struggle.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 16, 2017 7:34 AM  

All the defense is going to have to do to beat Kaepernick is throw up a cover 2 scheme.

Blogger buzzardist October 16, 2017 7:37 AM  

Or it is a sign that Kaepernick sucks.

Let's face it--any team would keep Kaepernick on the team and on the field if he were winning games for them. If Kaepernick were remotely as good as Rodgers, Brady, or any of the other elite quarterbacks, he would have started every game this season. This lawsuit is set to determine if Kaepernick completely sucks, or if he is mediocrely bad to the point that owners didn't want to put up with the hassle and cost, especially for someone who is, at best, a back-up quarterback.

Blogger YIH October 16, 2017 7:39 AM  

Johnny Manziel should sue as well :)

Blogger Phillip George October 16, 2017 7:42 AM  

what club wants to hire someone stupid enough to believe in a level playing field?

Blogger Silly but True October 16, 2017 7:45 AM  

Post-racial: the idea that when one is inferior because they are black that they still feel entitled to a job because of their white mother.

Anonymous view October 16, 2017 8:08 AM  

doesnt he have a weird unusual body. (Kapernick-)his legs seem very weird to me

Blogger Salt October 16, 2017 8:08 AM  

it is merely a sign that no team wants to anger its season-ticket holders

Interesting choice of words. Kaepernick could have his side of the story turned into a Weinstein movie. Might even find a role for OJ in it.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 16, 2017 8:12 AM  

Overweening sense of entitlement. Yuck.

Anonymous view October 16, 2017 8:24 AM  

but ya know what this is good for the NFL it casts them as the good guys, if he sues them, the public will get behind the NFL

Blogger Nate October 16, 2017 8:30 AM  

The idiot Kapernick married a women so toxic she not only destroyed his career.. she is doing her damnedest to destroy the whole NFL.

Blogger Azimus October 16, 2017 8:37 AM  

28. Nate October 16, 2017 8:30 AM
The idiot Kapernick married a women so toxic she not only destroyed his career.. she is doing her damnedest to destroy the whole NFL.


She got Jerry Jones to take a knee. She already won.

Anonymous Mayonnaise October 16, 2017 8:40 AM  

A guy once tried to sell me steaks he carried in the trunk of his car. I didn't buy any, and neither did any of my neighbors.

No collusion necessary. Just widespread common sense.

Anonymous Mayonnaise October 16, 2017 8:58 AM  

KENNESAW, Ga. (AP) — A group of Georgia cheerleaders say they'll take a knee in the stadium tunnel when the national anthem is played at Saturday's homecoming game ...

Hah!

When cheerleaders take a knee, the cause has definitely jumped the shark.

Who's kneeling next? Furry mascots and water boys?

Anonymous View October 16, 2017 9:08 AM  

Re 8:58. The more people express their antipathy to kneeling the more other people will do it just to spite. People just suck like that. Best thing to do is ignore it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 16, 2017 9:08 AM  

Blacks could ruin free ice cream, such an uncanny ability to screw stuff up.

Blogger Johnny October 16, 2017 9:13 AM  

Kaepernick is good enough to be a backup and would be a potential starter on some teams, but he is not in that elite group of the we gotta have him if we can get him player. Combine that with the baggage he brings along and what sensible coach would want him around?

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) October 16, 2017 9:14 AM  

VD
it is merely a sign that no team wants to anger its season-ticket holders.


the fact that multiple teams have given him tryouts and STILL didn't hire him means that, at the decrepit age of 29, his skills have deteriorated to such an extent that nobody can risk playing him.

where was Jim McMahon's "Freedom of Speech"?

where was the "Freedom of Speech" for the Dallas Cowboys last year after that BLM clown murdered a bunch of cops?

NFL players *never* had "Freedom of Speech" ON THE JOB ( just like every other American ) until Krapernick asserted it last year.

and, funnily enough, it's ONLY Free Speech for BixNoods that they have any interest in.

Blogger Johnny October 16, 2017 9:17 AM  

What the situation amounts to is that the white fans have been willing to overlook that most of the players are black, but the black players are not willing to overlook that the fans are white. And now some of the black players are shoving their "blackness" into their face, the functional equivalent of rubbing a cat's nose in it.

If the "darkies" don't chill out on this stuff support for predominantly black sports is going to fall off, and with it, damage to this small area of success that blacks have.

Anonymous Rico Montoya October 16, 2017 9:22 AM  

too bad for kaepernick that the owners have been showing support for all the protests, so he really will have a hard time showing why they would collude against just him (for protesting). of course in showing support for the protests the owners have killed the league, but that is a different story.

Blogger seeingsights October 16, 2017 9:24 AM  

It will be interesting to see what expert witnesses will testify at court. An economist for the NFL teams, for example, could estimate the lost revenue that a team will suffer, because football fans would boycott Karpernick. Another expert witness could estimate Kaepernick's playing ability. There are folks who analyze football in a statistical way, like what Bill James and sabermetricians do for baseball.

Blogger DonReynolds October 16, 2017 9:26 AM  

The player in question has accused the team owners of collusion, basically that they are a private cartel or trust. Any such accusation flies in the face of the fact that the teams are competitive....both on the field and off the field. The perfect reflection of that anti-cartel behavior are the wages enjoyed by football players, who have formed their own union to further improve their collective bargaining position. If there is a monopoly in football, and monopoly behavior, it is by the players, not the owners.

After surely failing to prove that the team owners have formed a trust or cartel, then he must prove that the competitive teams suspended their normally competitive behaviors in order to conspire against him personally and individually, and this is not driven by any cartel action.

Once again, his fellow players have let him down. His taking a knee has been duplicated on many teams in the NFL...almost exactly the same pose...and none of them have been singled out for exclusion. This proves that his on-field antics of protesting....identical to that of many dozens of other players, could not possibly be the reason he no longer has a contract with a NFL team.

His problem is....he must show how he is any different from the many players who are dropped from teams every year, once they can be replaced, usually as soon as their short careers are ended. He must also show that his protests has not harmed the league or any prospective team that might consider signing him as quarterback. That might be an impossible hill for him to climb and would justify everyone refusing to buy into his personal protests....it costs them money, harms their brand, and could likely impair their ability to recruit other players in a competitive environment.

Blogger Duke Norfolk October 16, 2017 9:29 AM  

Mayonnaise wrote:When cheerleaders take a knee, the cause has definitely jumped the shark.

I'm sure a great many of them are very practiced at going to their knees. Hollywood ain't the only place where creepy old (((men))) ply their trade.

Blogger James Dixon October 16, 2017 9:30 AM  

> Kaepernick is good enough to be a backup and would be a potential starter on some team

He's only good enough to be a back on the same teams he would be a potential starter. He can only run one system. Honestly, most of the backup qb's in the league are better than he is.

Blogger seeingsights October 16, 2017 9:42 AM  

Objectively, Kaepernick's legal case doesn't have merit.
I've said before that an attorney will do anything for you as long as you pay your attorney.
On typical matters that courts face--for example if the defendant committed a financial crime, or sold cocaine, etc--the courts usually rule correctly. It's on cases which are part of social issues when you get judicial activism. Because of that Kaepernick has a chance, albeit slim.

Anonymous krymneth October 16, 2017 9:42 AM  

Duke Norfolk wrote:Hollywood ain't the only place where creepy old (((men))) ply their trade.

Yeah, but "everybody knows" that's the reason you go into cheerleading in high school in the first place. Cheerleaders set out to get easy sexual access to the top studs, which incidentally requires them to also flounce around in public displaying their wares, which is more a bonus than anything else to them. You do not set out to get easy sexual access to Harvey Weinstein at the cost of becoming an actor.

(In fact, in addition to "Why now?" there's the question of "Why Harvey and not any of the other hundreds of possible violators?" to which the natural socio-sexual answer is "He must be either the gamma-ist of them all or very close." If he were a natural alpha we'd probably still not be hearing anything about his exploits, even if they were with the exact same set of people. (I can't say even if they were the same exploits, though; those are not the moves of an alpha.)

Anonymous Jordi October 16, 2017 9:44 AM  

@36 : congrats, I think you are exactly spot on.

What the situation amounts to is that the white fans have been willing to overlook that most of the players are black, but the black players are not willing to overlook that the fans are white. And now some of the black players are shoving their "blackness" into their face, the functional equivalent of rubbing a cat's nose in it.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 16, 2017 10:29 AM  

Nate wrote:The idiot Kapernick married a women so toxic she not only destroyed his career.. she is doing her damnedest to destroy the whole NFL.

She will also get Kapernick to destroy his own bank account. Think she is going to stick around after he is broke? Unfortunately, he probably still won't learn his lesson after that.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 16, 2017 10:31 AM  

The NFL player's association will be "monitoring"? Why not "supporting" or "filing an amicus" to help out a brotha like Mr. Popular?

Gotta be part of his long range plan: to write a book on "How to be a winning NFL quarterback" and live off the money from it.

Blogger jobethian09 October 16, 2017 11:00 AM  

The NFL will pay him off. End of story.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) October 16, 2017 11:58 AM  

47. jobethian09 October 16, 2017 11:00 AM
The NFL will pay him off. End of story.



possible.

otoh, it's not usually a good idea to piss off billionaires.

they can afford to piss away millions on legal proceedings that never go anywhere.

by design.

Anonymous BBGKB October 16, 2017 12:02 PM  

OMG thank you for letting Colon Kirkpatrick play a real black on (((TV)))

This one isn't going to be about winning the legal case.It's going to be about winning the jury selection

More like (((BETTER CALL SAUL))) hoping for a black or jewish judge.

People just suck like that. Best thing to do is ignore it

Oy Vey View says CUCK CUCK CUCK. Actually I said before I wanted Kirkpatrick to be in the news more to squat out redpills, & he delivered.

Anonymous Bini Jacobsen October 16, 2017 12:05 PM  

what will really kill coconut head's legal case is the simple fact he walked away from the game with another year left on his contract (player option). all he had to do to keep playing...was keep playing.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 16, 2017 12:38 PM  

Would have been really great if the NFL owners filed a countersuit alleging collusion on the part of the kneeling players to hurt the image of the NFL and reduce the value therein.

Too bad JJ already blew that avenue apart when he participated in the kneeling, though.

Blogger Cecil Henry October 16, 2017 12:41 PM  

No collusion. They just don't like you.

That's it.

Blogger Anchorman October 16, 2017 2:12 PM  

Wasn't he offered contracts, but turned them down?

Or his crazy g/f screwed up negotiations (Ravens)?

Tough to prove collusion if you've had offers.

Anonymous Avalanche October 16, 2017 2:21 PM  

@28 "The idiot Kapernick married a women so toxic she not only destroyed his career.. she is doing her damnedest to destroy the whole NFL."

culture > politics. Mission accomplished!

Blogger Michael Maier October 16, 2017 3:17 PM  

While drinking too much on a pub crawl yesterday, had a Dindu saying "the protests are MORAL but you only care about RIGHTS (in this case of the owners)."

He got pissy and walked away after I refused to let him dictate how I would be talking. He said saying "blacks" instead of "black people" was dehumanizing. Nevermind I was saying "whites" instead of "white people".

I think he was a twat coward looking for a way out of the conversation.

Anonymous Anonymous October 16, 2017 4:33 PM  

Some people in the dark corners of the tinfoil-interwebs (not /pol/) are saying he is a Jew, Israeli, something like. I believe it. It would be right up their alley to send in a Semite to larp as an oppressed negro

Blogger Thucydides October 16, 2017 4:48 PM  

Outside of his toxic personality, he simply isn't that good either. In any objective accounting, the teams simply concluded he had little to offer on the field, besides taking a knee.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 16, 2017 5:24 PM  

While drinking too much on a pub crawl yesterday, had a Dindu saying "the protests are MORAL but you only care about RIGHTS (in this case of the owners)."

The protests are STUPID because the leading cause of death for young black men aged 18 - 35 is homicide. Getting shot by other young black men, not by cops. STUPID.

It's like protesting burned popcorn in the microwave while the house is on fire. STUPID.

Anonymous View October 16, 2017 5:44 PM  

Re 908 oops didnt realize they were young women. My sincere apologies. Free speech is free speech. What i like or dont like is irrelevant

Anonymous Marvin Boggs October 16, 2017 6:16 PM  

Given the current state of the NFL, with ratings dropping significantly, would other players really want the CBA voided? That would result in a need to renegotiate with a league whose revenues are, presumably, dropping. High odds on a strike, which would hurt revenues further.

I don't see a voided CBA as a winning play for the players. What am I missing?

Anonymous Marvin Boggs October 16, 2017 6:26 PM  

Stating the obvious, CK clearly has given up any hope of ever playing in the NFL again. I cannot imagine even the most converged team hiring him now.

Blogger Retrenched October 16, 2017 6:38 PM  

If Kaepernick somehow wins his lawsuit then maybe Pax Dickinson can sue all the tech companies for not giving him a job.

Blogger James Dixon October 16, 2017 7:35 PM  

> What am I missing?

Colin Kaepernick's IQ?

Anonymous Marvin Boggs October 16, 2017 8:52 PM  

@62: I think I can be forgiven for missing that. I mean, it's so small, almost microscopic...

Blogger James Dixon October 16, 2017 9:00 PM  

> I think I can be forgiven for missing that.

Oh, most definitely. But you asked... :)

Blogger Cail Corishev October 16, 2017 9:58 PM  

The NFL will pay him off.

The NFL's motto is, "At No Cost To The League." If he's expecting a payoff, he'd better have copies of emails from Goodell to the teams forbidding them to sign Kaepernick.

Blogger Lazarus October 16, 2017 11:08 PM  

Kaepernick is the poster boy for identity politics. He is only half-negro, and was reared by whites, yet identifies with blacks.

All the white cucks adopting blacks take note....you are not the primary family members. Any black on the street has more cred than you.

Anonymous Amir Larijani October 17, 2017 7:18 AM  

Vox says:
"The fact that nobody wants him on their roster is not indicative of collusion, it is merely a sign that no team wants to anger its season-ticket holders."

Amen! Fact is, Kaepernick has enough football skills that, on paper, he could at least be a decent backup.

But the reason no NFL owner wants anything to do with him boils down to the one thing that talks: MOOLAH.

Kaepernick has the First Amendment right to make a complete ass of himself and disrespect the flag and the National Anthem.

But the First Amendment--like tracers--works both ways: the market always gets to vote.

The fans don't want Kaerpernick. And that is why he remains jobless. If there's collusion, it's by the fans--who wish he would take his crap to North Korea--not the owners.

Blogger Jack Morrow October 17, 2017 1:33 PM  

DonReynolds wrote:The player in question has accused the team owners of collusion, basically that they are a private cartel or trust. Any such accusation flies in the face of the fact that the teams are competitive....both on the field and off the field. The perfect reflection of that anti-cartel behavior are the wages enjoyed by football players, who have formed their own union to further improve their collective bargaining position. If there is a monopoly in football, and monopoly behavior, it is by the players, not the owners.

In the suit brought by the USFL in 1986, the NFL was in fact ruled, in the words of Howard Cosell, to be "a duly adjudicated illegal monopoly." Some may remember that Donald Trump owned the New Jersey Generals in the USFL.

Even the CFL, which has been SJW-converged for the last 10 years (since Mark Cohon took over as commissioner), has yet to show any interest in C.K., although there are a few teams that could use someone of his debatable ability.

Blogger CashBailey October 20, 2017 5:59 PM  

He's getting desperate. He probably saw how fast the black half of him was spending that money.

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