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Friday, October 20, 2017

Liberalism: the dying faith

Pat Buchanan rightly observes that Europe is awakening to fact that liberalism is a societally suicidal lie:
Asked to name the defining attributes of the America we wish to become, many liberals would answer that we must realize our manifest destiny since 1776, by becoming more equal, more diverse and more democratic — and the model for mankind’s future.

Equality, diversity, democracy — this is the holy trinity of the post-Christian secular state at whose altars Liberal Man worships.

To traditionalist Europeans, our heaven looks like their hell.

But the congregation worshiping these gods is shrinking. And even Europe seems to be rejecting what America has on offer... Europe is rejecting, resisting, recoiling from “diversity,” the multiracial, multicultural, multiethnic and multilingual future that, say U.S. elites, is America’s preordained mission to bring about for all mankind.
This is the dilemma facing conservatives now. For sixty years, their tango with liberals was a simple matter of saying "yes, but not so fast". Now, like the liberals, they are being forced to confront the ugly reality that the end game of their ideology is the end of their society and their civilization. Not only has conservatism conserved nothing, it has aided and abetted the destruction of that which it purported to be defending.

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Blogger Thucydides October 20, 2017 1:04 PM  

It was OK so long as the end game was in the indefinite future and *they* could feast on the fat of the land.

Now most of the fat has been stripped off, and the future is rapidly becoming "now", so they are forced to realize that *they* will be living with the consequences of their actions.

And they don't like what they see, but the only response seems to be a mad scramble for the lifeboats, and stepping on *our* heads to get there. Or as the old Russian folk tale goes, throwing us off the sled one at a time so the pursuing wolves will stop and devour us first......

Blogger Lovekraft October 20, 2017 1:07 PM  

Having been displaced from any sense of belonging, even in fiefdoms of old we had some sense of purpose, into the New Global Identity, it has to leave a bad taste in people's mouths to be pressured into accepting and approving of 'the other.'

No amount of social engineering will make the norther celt find any deep-seeded alliance with the african and semite, much less the asiatic peoples.

And if this venture is actually going to work, an essential component that has been missing, due to Political Correctness, is one's ability to verify whether these so-called allies are worthy of our respect.

Pretty simple, really: if you won't let me verify, then don't expect me to go along.

Blogger Ezekiel October 20, 2017 1:13 PM  

I remember in the 2000 election, how I refused to back Buchanan because he was Papist and Dubya wasn't (hey, I was 13 at the time). I'm glad he lived long enough to see Trump elected.

Anonymous Simon in London October 20, 2017 1:21 PM  

Hi Vox, I only came across your stuff recently, and have been trying to find out more about your positions. I was wondering what you think about the old guard white advocates like Jared Taylor & Peter Brimelow, who had been allied with Richard Spencer, but distanced themselves after Hailgate? (Anyone else who can provide me links is welcome, too).

Anonymous Frank Lazulis October 20, 2017 1:26 PM  

Meh, people ignore the fact that the majority of Europeans have chosen -- and still support -- their present circumstances. They are not "like us" and never have been. Maybe I am forgetting something, but has Europe ever made major changes of societal direction without massive wars driving the change? Maybe the Renaissance; maybe.

Blogger J Van Stry October 20, 2017 1:27 PM  

I have always said that diversity was stupid.
Wasn't very popular for it at a lot of places.

Blogger Nathan October 20, 2017 1:29 PM  

Uprooted, dispossessed, deracinated, profaned, disintegrated, polluted, disinformed, desecrated, unmanned, robbed, de-lineaged, defamed. But neither defeated nor destroyed.

Blogger Ezekiel October 20, 2017 1:31 PM  

Frank Lazulis wrote:Meh, people ignore the fact that the majority of Europeans have chosen -- and still support -- their present circumstances. They are not "like us" and never have been. Maybe I am forgetting something, but has Europe ever made major changes of societal direction without massive wars driving the change? Maybe the Renaissance; maybe.
Renaissance was plenty violent if I remember it right, and the coming Great Kebab Removal will probably be the greatest act of bloodletting the continent has ever seen before. But come it shall.

Blogger DonReynolds October 20, 2017 1:43 PM  

It is the old story about killing the goose that lays the golden eggs.
The Leftist Liberal society they pretend to promote will end up being unequal, undemocratic, and certainly not diverse.

The USA was founded on Freedom, not equality....a Republic, not a democracy....and overwhelmingly a society peopled by white Europeans, which are being diluted by everything else.

In fact, diverse does not mean variety in the least. Diversity has become a codeword meaning anti-white, anti-Christian, and anti-male.

Yes, Vox.....SJWs always lie. They always project. And they always double down in the face of contrary facts. And they always demand that free speech be suppressed anytime it does not promote the Leftist Liberal agenda.

Blogger Phat Repat October 20, 2017 1:47 PM  

As I observed the turkification of Germany in the 70's, I was surprised at the lack of disgust by those close to me. Perhaps the numbers were small enough at that time it was overlooked. To me, one was too many, and I was but a child.

Unfortunately, too much time has passed and a sense of belonging and ownership, no matter how misguided the feeling, has pervaded their psyche. This will not end well is the understatement of understatements.

Anonymous BBGKB October 20, 2017 2:06 PM  

Not only has conservatism conserved nothing, it has aided and abetted the destruction of that which it purported to be defending

NC tranny bathroom everyone can go to the bathroom of their choosing- (((Attorney General Josh Stein)))

http://www.towleroad.com/2017/10/hb2-settlement/

Blogger Desdichado October 20, 2017 2:08 PM  

Frank Lazulis wrote:Meh, people ignore the fact that the majority of Europeans have chosen -- and still support -- their present circumstances. They are not "like us" and never have been. Maybe I am forgetting something, but has Europe ever made major changes of societal direction without massive wars driving the change? Maybe the Renaissance; maybe.
No they didn't. They were conned, or otherwise had it forced on them in bad faith. Same as us here in America; we never signed up to be the new New Mexico. But we were specifically told that that wouldn't happen, and then when we first started noticing it, we were shouted down with the magic words of racism.

The time where that's going to be effective is rapidly coming to a close, both here and there.

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative October 20, 2017 2:08 PM  

But...but...but...muh assimilation! Muh magic dirt! It's gotta work! Muh Emma Lazarus on a blank slate!

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener October 20, 2017 2:11 PM  

Pat Buchanan is, as usual, spot on.

Anonymous A. Conservative October 20, 2017 2:18 PM  

Too bad Pat Buchanan is an alt-retard when it comes to economics. He supports socialism like single-payer health care and massive infrastructure pork. Pat is far left-wing on these issues. Much like Bannon, Pat also supports HIGHER taxes on corporations and the richest Americans. This is alt-retard leftism.

Anonymous Kreator October 20, 2017 2:25 PM  

@A. Conservative

And as usual a cuck shoots at his own side far more than the other side, nothing new under the sun.

If it was up to me, when Alt-Right becomes reality, I would first hung you guys, or better yet, hang you with the entrails of your beloved leftists. So you could be together in both life and death.

Blogger John Morris October 20, 2017 2:35 PM  

Yup. Only thing is the failure of Conservatism goes back farther. Reread Kirk's The Conservative Mind_ and it is clear that it starts with Burke. Always objecting to the latest project of the Left but never proposing anything different as a goal so "ok, Sunny Uplands it is, but we can't go as fast as you want, just wouldn't be prudent."

Time to chart a course, be FOR something.

Anonymous Sam the Man October 20, 2017 2:41 PM  

Pat Buchanan was calling for as stop to the wars and military adventures in the 1990s. He correctly pointed out the relationship between the new world order and a loss of sovereignty back then circa 1995.

He was calling out the demographic crisis back in 1998.

He correctly spotted the culture wars and brought it to our attention in 1992.

He was like a prophet of the old testament.

Given his very good record of being a lone sane voice in the wilderness, one should cut him some slack.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer October 20, 2017 2:43 PM  

But the Birtchers were purged, so all is good.

Anonymous Old Dominion October 20, 2017 2:49 PM  

The election for Governor of Virginia, one of only 2 Governor's races this year, happens in two weeks. It's a close race. The God Emperor is either going to have an ally or a sworn enemy right at his door in Virginia. The Republican is originally GOPe, but he was Trumpified somewhat by a hard-fought primary (and common sense). The Democrat is an open-borders fanatic and a corrupt Hillary intimate. This is another one of those races where the Dems are hoping for a "repudiation" of the God Emperor. Obama and Biden have both been out campaigning for the Democrat (Northam). Obama says "our values" and "our Democracy" are at stake of the open-borders Dem doesn't win. The Republican Gillespie has accurately noted that there's an MS-13 (El Salvadoran gang) problem in Virginia now. But apparently Obama thinks that gang violence is "our values."

This race needs some meme magic. Is there anything we can do to help thwart the Dems here? I'd like Obama "repudiated." Bill Clinton's oratory lost its magic and so will Obama's. It already has somewhat. This sentence in a news article looked like wishful thinking: "Democrats are hoping that Obama's appearance will electrify the voters." LOL.

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions? How can we use the power of rhetoric and meme magic to put another race in the win column for the God Emperor?

Anonymous Were-Puppy October 20, 2017 2:55 PM  

Get out there on Twitter, Gab, Faceberg, etc etc and post about the race endlessly.

Blogger John Smith October 20, 2017 3:24 PM  

Lazarus wrote about the 1911 wolf attack on the wedding party Russia. Not folklore but true.

Blogger Student in Blue October 20, 2017 3:50 PM  

@4. Simon in London

A fair word of warning in case this is earnest, we have a lot of trolls and anklebiters that love to pop up on a topic and try to drag it off-topic via "innocent questions" about positions or things he's said.

Of course they hardly ever wind up being actual innocent questions because the askers just shift the goalposts and are always far more concerned with scoring points than understanding someone's thoughts.

Blogger stevo October 20, 2017 4:12 PM  

It could never happen here

Blogger James Dixon October 20, 2017 4:18 PM  

Here, for me, is the real cause for hope:

"On Oct. 7, scores of thousands of Poles lined up along the country’s entire 2,000-mile border — to pray the rosary.

It was the centennial of the Virgin Mary’s last apparition at Fatima in Portugal in 1917, and the day in 1571 the Holy League sank the Muslim fleet at Lepanto to save Europe. G. K. Chesterton’s poem, “Lepanto,” was once required reading in Catholic schools."

Given that generally one person in 10 who supports a position will bother to take part in such a public act, this means something.

Blogger Lovekraft October 20, 2017 5:09 PM  

@25:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5001344/Knifeman-stabs-eight-rampage-Polish-shopping-mall.html

No clues as to identity in article.

and then this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/20/london-now-dangerous-new-york-crime-stats-suggest/

We are being primed for metal detectors, facial recognition, chip implants in every public space.

Anonymous franklinjennings October 20, 2017 5:13 PM  

Hi, journalist! Have you ever considered performing the physiologically impossible act of self impregnation?

Blogger WynnLloyd October 20, 2017 5:47 PM  

I feel the same way whenever a relatively minor issue is brought up. Like when (the otherwise brilliant) Brett Stevens goes off on Italians for little to no reason, or when someone starts attacking Calvinists. I have more in common with a based Calvinist than any of these converged Catholics.
Dindus destroying the city you live in has that kind of effect on a man.

Blogger WynnLloyd October 20, 2017 5:54 PM  


He's been telling you the house is on fire for all the years it's been burning. Now you're breathing in smoke.
Worry about him being wrong about the weather later, once you get outside.

Blogger WynnLloyd October 20, 2017 6:00 PM  

That's amazing. It definitely does mean a great deal. Add all of that popular will to the already considerable spiritual power from that and Poland will benefit greatly.
They know what's at stake at this point. They see our deep dysfunction and have the guidance and bestowal of grace to change lanes, if they were ever even in our lane to begin with. Thank God for that.

Anonymous franklinjennings October 20, 2017 6:44 PM  

Speaking of trolls and journalists and shills, as the original franklinjennings I find it very strange that someone else is now repeatedly posting under that name. What do you have to say for yourself, number 27?

Blogger Dirk Manly October 20, 2017 8:46 PM  

@6

"Maybe I am forgetting something, but has Europe ever made major changes of societal direction without massive wars driving the change? Maybe the Renaissance; maybe."

You mean that period marked by the 30 Years War and the Hundred Years War?

Blogger Dirk Manly October 20, 2017 8:51 PM  

@15

"Too bad Pat Buchanan is an alt-retard when it comes to economics. He supports socialism like single-payer health care and massive infrastructure pork. Pat is far left-wing on these issues. Much like Bannon, Pat also supports HIGHER taxes on corporations and the richest Americans. This is alt-retard leftism."

Actually, it's run-of-the-mill Catholicism. It's why the Italians, Poles, and Irish have never managed to assimilate.

Blogger Gloriam Deo October 20, 2017 8:56 PM  

In case you are in fact a journalist, Franklin told you to go fuck yourself. (Let it never be said VD’s readers did t help put the disabled.)

Blogger Dirk Manly October 20, 2017 9:00 PM  

@22

Simple search proves that the story was such common folklore that it was documented to be in circulation in the Great Plains of the UNITED STATES in the 1880's if not sooner.

Rememember, if though it was printed in the NY Times as News in 1911.... even then the papers were selling FAKE NEWS.

Blogger Dirk Manly October 20, 2017 9:01 PM  

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4px0qe/til_in_1911_wolves_attacked_a_traveling_wedding/

Blogger SirGroggy October 20, 2017 9:07 PM  

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Blogger SirGroggy October 20, 2017 9:11 PM  

The Alt Right in Europe at least has one major advantage over the Alt Right in colonial countries such as US and Australia: unchallengeable legitimacy. In the US there is always a doubt which can be cast upon the white's legitimacy as holders of the land. Whereas in Europe the white people are literally the indigenous native peoples.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 20, 2017 9:13 PM  

"Too bad Pat Buchanan is an alt-retard when it comes to economics. He supports socialism like single-payer health care and massive infrastructure pork. Pat is far left-wing on these issues. Much like Bannon, Pat also supports HIGHER taxes on corporations and the richest Americans. This is alt-retard leftism."

Actually, it's run-of-the-mill Catholicism. It's why the Italians, Poles, and Irish have never managed to assimilate.


@33 Dirk Manly
I wasn't aware that Buchanan favored that. If he did, I would never have voted for him. And speaking as a hard-core traditionalist Catholic who thinks Francis is a fake pope, I'd say it may very well be a tendency among Catholics (which may help explain why they got suckered by Vatican II for the most part), but I think single-payer and socialism in general are terrible ideas. And soaking the rich doesn't solve anything when crony capitalists have ways of gaming the system for their own benefit.

Blogger VFM #7634 October 20, 2017 9:15 PM  

Although ethnically I am pretty much a profile of the average white American (Irish-English-German-Scot), so it may be an ethnic tendency rather than a religious one.

Blogger SirGroggy October 20, 2017 9:20 PM  

Actually, it's run-of-the-mill Catholicism. It's why the Italians, Poles, and Irish have never managed to assimilate.

They did assimilate, if not with 100% purity. And it required a long pause with no further immigration.

Also they may not have assimilated if their home countries were on the border with the US so they could go back and forth.

Blogger Cetera October 20, 2017 9:40 PM  

Sam the Man wrote:Pat Buchanan was calling for as stop to the wars and military adventures in the 1990s. He correctly pointed out the relationship between the new world order and a loss of sovereignty back then circa 1995.

He was calling out the demographic crisis back in 1998.

He correctly spotted the culture wars and brought it to our attention in 1992.

He was like a prophet of the old testament.

Given his very good record of being a lone sane voice in the wilderness, one should cut him some slack.


Indeed, ol' Pat isn't perfect, but he was in the arena, and he was striving to wake us all up.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
--Theodore Roosevelt, from the speech "Citizenship In A Republic" delivered at the Sorbonne, in Paris, France on 23 April, 1910

I'm not necessarily a huge fan of Teddy Roosevelt, but he did understand a few things that it would be helpful to remember.

Blogger Andrea Ostrov Letania October 20, 2017 9:42 PM  

Alt Right needs to Pump Identity(and Irony) like Arnold Pumped Iron.

Pumping Identity into the Political Discourse in a world where whiteness has become flabby and cucky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AAw9M-6N3I

Blogger Lazarus October 20, 2017 11:30 PM  

tee shirt bumper sticker meme material:

White Privilege...Use It or Lose It.

Blogger YIH October 21, 2017 12:54 AM  

@27 @31 On 4chan that would be called ''samefagging'' and this ain't 4chan.

Anonymous Simon in London October 21, 2017 2:57 AM  

>>A fair word of warning in case this is earnest, we have a lot of trolls and anklebiters that love to pop up on a topic and try to drag it off-topic via "innocent questions" about positions or things he's said.

Of course they hardly ever wind up being actual innocent questions because the askers just shift the goalposts and are always far more concerned with scoring points than understanding someone's thoughts.<<

Sorry if this wasn't good place to ask. I am genuinely curious to know Vox's opinion of Brimelow/VDare and Taylor/AmRen, & not from hostility to them (or him). I'm more a Steve Sailer fan personally. I don't like the extreme anti-Semitism of parts of the Alt Right (but Jews should be criticisable same as anyone else). Finding out about Vox Day recently I've been impressed by his constructive campaign work. He publishes authors I admire like William S Lind & Martin Van Creveld. His views seem pretty close to mine & I'm trying to find out more.

Blogger The Chortling October 21, 2017 7:03 AM  

Don't forget Magic Brown-ness

http://fortune.com/2017/10/14/tulane-free-tuition-puerto-rico/

Blogger LP9 October 21, 2017 7:43 AM  

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Anonymous Gen. Kong October 22, 2017 1:24 PM  

Here are several examples of proof that they are losing the battle:There are Nazis everywhere.

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