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Thursday, October 26, 2017

Mailvox: why start now?

RD wonders if I've seen the Dennis Prager video on the Alt-Right:
Prager University mentions you in a video about the Alt-right, basically labeling you in a very negative way. Have you seen it?
I would have been shocked if Dennis Prager had anything positive to say about me. He's a mediocre thinker and a mediocre writer whose columns on WND were lightweight, little trafficked, and almost entirely forgettable. Despite my own columns appearing on the same opinion page, I seldom bothered reading his, and a perusal of this blog will demonstrate that I've never considered him to be any sort of peer. I've barely spared even a single thought for him in 10 years.

I think Prager is wildly and utterly wrong in every way...Prager's opinion may lie in the fact that he's fundamentally a radio performer, not a writer. I suspect that he likes to talk at people somewhat more than he likes to engage with them.
- 2007

This is as deeply and profoundly silly as anything that the rape fetishists on the feminist Left have invented. It confuses metaphor with reality.
- 2007

I have no doubt that you'll all run right back into the warm embrace of Hugh Hewitt and Dennis Prager and Jonah Goldberg and Sean Hannity and Bill Bennett and all the other Radio Republicans... I mean, you've got to know their opinions, they've collectively got such a smashingly excellent record over these past few years.
- 2007

"I believe that this man [George Delano Bush] is changing history for the better, that he is the dam holding back the waters of chaos, that he saved this country at a time when Democrats would have failed it, and that he is both kind and strong, real and decent, powerful and humble.... Unless he is a faker -- and I believe that I can sense a faker a mile away -- it was clear that the president was moved.... I realize that I open myself to ridicule by saying that everything I had suspected about the man was reinforced in a little over a minute...."
- quoting Dennis Prager in "Republican Whore Doggies" in 2004

The most straightforward way to refute anything said by Dennis Prager is to point out that Dennis Prager said it. Therefore, it is almost certainly wrong. So, I have no idea what he said and I could not care less about whatever it was.

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88 Comments:

Anonymous Difster October 26, 2017 7:31 PM  

If Dennis Prager and Hew Hewitt started a think tank, it wouldn't even be ankle deep.

Blogger SmockMan October 26, 2017 7:36 PM  

In 15 years, I cant recall a single thing he has said, or if I have even read him before.

Blogger Salt October 26, 2017 7:38 PM  

Difster wrote:If Dennis Prager and Hew Hewitt started a think tank, it wouldn't even be ankle deep.

Operative word, think. Remove it. Yeah, it would tank. Fast too.

Blogger seeingsights October 26, 2017 7:41 PM  

Who is Dennis Prager?

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 26, 2017 7:52 PM  

Prager University doesn't even play in the Sun Belt. They must really suck.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 26, 2017 7:52 PM  

I just saw that Prager video. I'm having flashbacks from the MSM's reporting on the Million Man March and Farrakhan. What's wrong with these people? Michael Knowles said he did research but I simply don't see any. It was like "Special Report" segment from, say, CNN. All I could do was laugh.

Blogger S1AL October 26, 2017 7:52 PM  

PragerU makes good stuff for mainstream right-wing consumption: hating socialism, intro-level sexual psychology, and pointing out leftist stupidity. I've never encountered anything besides that from them. Based on what I've seen, it's solid surface-level stuff. Something as complex as the alt-right shifts? Not in their wheelhouse, and they shouldn't have tried it.

Blogger Jon Mollison October 26, 2017 7:58 PM  

Republican Radio knows that the Alt-Right is a greater threat to their positions than NPR or even the FCC implementing "equal time". They'll come up with as many reasons to tell their customers not to look into a genuine alternative as they will reasons not to fight the Democrats on policy issues. And that's a LOT of reasons.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 26, 2017 8:00 PM  

@7 Prager has an excellent video on the Korean War done by Victor Davis Hanson. I have a "friend" who has shown it to high school students in order to teach them about that conflict.

In fairness, Hanson is, in my opinion, a good dude.

Blogger Thanks, J. October 26, 2017 8:02 PM  

Turd Flinging Monkey had fun destroying Dennis Prager and Prager U on YouTube. Quite entertaining.

Anonymous DissidentRight October 26, 2017 8:08 PM  

First they ignore you.
Then they ridicule you. <--- You are here.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.

Blogger R Doom October 26, 2017 8:11 PM  

That's the thing, I've liked quite a few of their videos, but the one on the alt-right had me scratching my head. Only 600 people in the alt-right? Really? And a few other "facts" didn't strike me as accurate.

Blogger S1AL October 26, 2017 8:14 PM  

"Only 600 people in the alt-right?"

That's the "alt-right means Nazi trolls" statistic. There was an analysis done on Twitter accounts that gave that number.

Blogger David October 26, 2017 8:15 PM  

Oh no, Vox is actually doing something- time for conservatives to attack

Blogger michaeloh59 October 26, 2017 8:16 PM  

Prager is a gifted debater and a solid enemy of the Left. He has consistently, and vigorously supported Trump since he won the nomination on the grounds that the Left had to be stopped. He has debated never Trump Hillary GOPs like Brett 'Open Borders' Stephens and David 'unpatriotic conservatives' Frum. He is the author of a whole stream of good ideas, memes and insights into doing battle with he Left. All that said, it is also true that he believes America has a mission to do good things in the world, I don't recall that in the Declaration or the Constitution; and he is an enthusiastic proponent of the prop nation nonsense, denying the importance of race, tribe and blood and promoting the supremacy of values. He is not, however an open borders moron, California producing fewer and fewer of that brand of hater. He seems sympathetic to some immigration restriction on the grounds that certain nations don't fit into a Western value system. I remember when the term at-right came up during the election Prager was baffled by the emphasis Hillary attached to it; he had never heard of it. Well now he has and it is as I expected, the alt-rights recognition the importance of race, or at least the recognition of the importance of identity politics means that Prager will regard the alt-right as a subset of the Left.

Blogger Gloriam Deo October 26, 2017 8:22 PM  

that video was retarded. filled with half truths and lies, it propagated numerous myths and conflated the idiots in NC with the entire movement.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 26, 2017 8:35 PM  

Dennis has to go back. Sorry.

Anonymous Godfrey October 26, 2017 8:39 PM  

I don't even know who the guy is.

Anonymous Patron October 26, 2017 8:46 PM  

Not sure how much Dennis Prager had to do with this particular video - "Michael Knowles" is the guy behind this one, apparently. Anyway, if this is typical of the quality of people and work at PragerU, then PragerU is a joke. The video description has most of the script for the video in it, and to sum it up, it's basically all tired cuckservative "rhetoric".

The sources are an interesting list too, if you visit the PragerU.com page for this video. "The Alt-Right is bad, and as proof here's an article and video I did earlier!"

= = =

Some fun bits from it:

The alt in “alt-right” means “alternative.” The alt-right is an alternative to American conservatism. So, it’s no surprise then that the alt-right has far more in common with the left—another alternative to conservatism— than it does with the traditional American right.

Binary thinking at its finest.

Another area of agreement between the alt-right and the left is that both ultimately reject God. The alt-right admires Christendom for uniting the European continent, but rejects Christianity for its offer of salvation to all people, irrespective of race.

You heard it here first folks...

The movement’s favorite philosopher—just like the Nazis of yesteryear—is Friedrich Nietzsche, who famously claimed, “God is dead.”

Favourite? Hmm, try Aristotle or the Supreme Dark Lord. I mean, Nietzsche said some interesting things, but I'm not sure he's #1 on the Alt-Right. Heck, maybe not even on the Fake Right (do they even *know* of any philosophers?). This should be an interesting question actually, as I'm only making an educated guess re Aristotle & VD.

The pioneer spirit, entrepreneurial drive, the acceptance of personal responsibility—these are uniquely American ideas, uniquely conservative ideas.

*Cough* Edmund Burke *cough* 1688 *cough* etc...

Anonymous Random American October 26, 2017 8:46 PM  

The only thing I've liked by Prager was a short youtube video I saw, which I can't seem to find anymore. The theme he used was "preach what you practice", it was a call to conservative Jews to stop preaching liberal values to the goyim while living more or less as members of a separate tradtionalist society themselves.
But yeah, everything else seems pretty mediocre.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 8:46 PM  

15. michaeloh59

A) Use a wonderful invention called paragraph breaks for helping people read you.

B) No one cares about a shallow Republican, who is embarrassed by anyone who does more than whine about the Left and never goes beyond complaints.

Blogger Tank October 26, 2017 8:50 PM  

Prager is a very thoughtful guy who loves the work Christians have done for America, crediting them with making it a great country. I disagree with him on many things, and don't think he actually knows anything about the alt right, but he's more of an ally than an enemy. If you listened to his show, you'd be surprised, in a mostly good way.

Blogger Junius Stone October 26, 2017 8:53 PM  

2nded on Prager.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 8:55 PM  

19. Patron

Of course, completely shallow, fake research. No real fact-checking, as they are pushing a Narrative, same as the Left. Silly BS.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 9:01 PM  

Tank wrote:Prager is a very thoughtful guy who loves the work Christians have done for America, crediting them with making it a great country. I disagree with him on many things, and don't think he actually knows anything about the alt right, but he's more of an ally than an enemy. If you listened to his show, you'd be surprised, in a mostly good way.

The shallow research on the article about the Alt-Right suggests strongly, he does not want to know any other "truth" on this but his own, and he has already made up his mind.

The churches he likely admires, could well be what are called "Churchian Churches" on here, meaning churches who are converged by SJWs.

Anonymous Stuff i been wanting to put out there. October 26, 2017 9:01 PM  

It seems the "alt right" gets some of the Jewish people's dander up. Maybe it should get their dander up. But i dont get why Putin gets their dander up. He is Christianizing Russia according to Brother Nathaniel Kapner. They should explain why they dont like Putin and why they slander him. Im concerned that they are anti white Christian.

Anonymous logprof October 26, 2017 9:02 PM  

I'll say this for Prager: When he speaks strictly about morals and family, I think he's very interesting and insightful. In fact, his radio show --at least around 6-8 years ago when I listened occasionally--
overwhelmingly is about those topics, not partisan politics (the only politics were about topics such as homosexual marriage, which IMHO he made a rather eloquent case against). Indeed, it was *because* he rarely touched on hardcore politics that it was a show my wife and I could both enjoy while out driving.

These are the first bits of his that I've seen commenting purely on partisan politics, and oy gevalt!

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 9:06 PM  

logprof wrote:I'll say this for Prager: When he speaks strictly about morals and family, I think he's very interesting and insightful. In fact, his radio show --at least around 6-8 years ago when I listened occasionally--

overwhelmingly is about those topics, not partisan politics (the only politics were about topics such as homosexual marriage, which IMHO he made a rather eloquent case against). Indeed, it was *because* he rarely touched on hardcore politics that it was a show my wife and I could both enjoy while out driving.

These are the first bits of his that I've seen commenting purely on partisan politics, and oy gevalt!


So, what has he done to really FIGHT against the Globalists, except whine and complain about the Left? Are some of points Globalist, if even Globalist-Lite?

Blogger Junius Stone October 26, 2017 9:07 PM  

I took to the battlefield for Trump on NRO, bucking their NeverTrumper jag. And has been consistently so ever since. He gets the threat of the toxic Left and the importance of drawing the line.

Blogger Junius Stone October 26, 2017 9:07 PM  

And the importance of religion and faith in culture and Western Civ.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass October 26, 2017 9:13 PM  

Michael Knowles got it all wrong. Anti-Christian? No. Richard Spencer as a leader? You mean the Reichtard with the Oriental girlfriend? Puhlease!

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 9:15 PM  

Junius Stone wrote:I took to the battlefield for Trump on NRO, bucking their NeverTrumper jag. And has been consistently so ever since. He gets the threat of the toxic Left and the importance of drawing the line.

Did you read his star-struck Bush paragraph above. Forget the Left, Bush's Globalist CIA are the people who hire people like Spencer to do their Monkey Dance for the MSM. This guy's favorite "Christian churches" will turn out to be converged churches with women leaders, and SJWs running them.

Blogger bw October 26, 2017 9:33 PM  

Im concerned that they are anti white Christian.

They're Globalist Internationalists.
ergo : they are who you thought they were

Blogger Tank October 26, 2017 9:33 PM  

Tuberman, you are displaying your ignorance of Prager. You could not be more wrong. He fights the left every day explicitly.

Blogger Good Will October 26, 2017 9:44 PM  

I very much appreciate both Dennis Prager AND Vox Day. Two wonderful writers and thinkers -- one of which being MUCH more enjoyable to listen to than the other! -- but both being very prescient and often VERY correct. I don't know why Vox holds Dennis in such contempt. Dennis has done a great service to humanity (in the form of his Prager U) while Vox has given us...comic books! (Among other things.) I find both gentlemen to be VERY insightful and wise.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 9:48 PM  

BTW, VD, I think the novels should be put out in paperback.

Anonymous Faceless October 26, 2017 9:54 PM  

Remember, beasts of burden, Prager U is here to school you:

Ward Cleaver gets all the poontang!

So shut up and marry that slut!

You will be such a good male role model for her children!

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 9:55 PM  

I happen to like some Civic Nationalists like Sundance of Conservative Tree House for the good he does. But, and this is a huge BUT, I would not come here and try to defend Sundance, if he did such shoddy research on the Alt-Right like Prager did, and try to pass it off as understanding. Vox has the greatest Orientation for what is actually going on with Christian Nationalism, and all Nationalism vs. Globalism.

Anonymous Faceless October 26, 2017 9:56 PM  

@35

Vox Day provided the philosophical rebuttal that stopped the steamroller that was New Atheism. He's also working on exorcising the SJW disease from the online encyclopedia. You must be new here. Everything is gravy after he silenced that B.S. from the Cult of Sam Harris.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener October 26, 2017 10:03 PM  

@11 We're in the middle of winning this battle. Trump is President. He's draining the swamp. Any loyal American with enough sense to look past the shrill panicking of the media sees what's happening. The cuckservatives like Prager are hapless dinosaurs, and all they have left is to complain that they don't like the methods we're using to win.

But their complaining accomplishes nothing. They're not going to convince people who've finally had a taste of victory to go back to politely losing. The cucks are finished, they and their advertisers just haven't realized it yet.

Anonymous Weak October 26, 2017 10:16 PM  

Prager is an ally. He's very good on issues that are in his wheelhouse. He's shallow and poor on subjects on which he is not well-versed (aren't we all?). He went way out of his standard subject pool on this one, trying to have a hot take on "Subject du Jour", and got it all wrong.

I'm forgiving of him for this mess. Hopefully he recognizes he was out of his league. And of course, doesn't double down. For now, this is "good guy was wrong and messed up".

Anonymous Charlottesvillain October 26, 2017 10:17 PM  

"Prager and his siblings were raised as Modern Orthodox Jews. He attended the Yeshiva of Flatbush in Brooklyn, New York."

Blogger Desdichado October 26, 2017 10:42 PM  

Prager is like Klavan and Whittle. The litest of the alt.lite. They're barely one step removed from the bowtie conservatives. They're useful after a fashion, and are probably decent enough guys, but their understanding and hence their utility is extremely limited.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 10:42 PM  

(((Prager)))

I tried to listen to his radio show a couple times but he was just as bad as the rest of the Cucks.

Talk radio took a major beating during the primaries and general election.

Here in Atlanta they are now pushing a lolbertarian Eric Von Cuckler and the Cucklerettes. They are almost like a mix of lolbertarian + cucks.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 26, 2017 10:50 PM  

@38 tuberman

Sundance would never be so careless. Plus, Sundance is taking the redpill in some harsh doses. It's kind of amazing to watch at times.


@43 Desdichado

They're the last of their kind, more or less. They're of the Right, but lost somewhere without anything to fix it down.


OT So it appears Oswald was a CIA asset at a time, and they're still holding back some documents (partially for arguing over redactions and the other part because certain forms weren't turned in). Apparently MLK documents were also part of the set, which might actually be the more noteworthy part.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 11:04 PM  

45. Looking Glass October 26, 2017 10:50 PM
@38 tuberman

"Sundance would never be so careless. Plus, Sundance is taking the redpill in some harsh doses. It's kind of amazing to watch at times."

Yes, I know that, which is why I like him. What is red-pilling Sundance is his strong desire to get at the truth.

Anonymous Wooly October 26, 2017 11:08 PM  

Here's an interesting history. Pizzagate is definitely not far-fetched.

And I hope SoCal slides into the Pacific Ocean.

There are versions of this book online with pics that work.

This isn't one of them. It's all part and parcel, and no pics are needed.

After reading this, and Vigilant Citizen's site, and knowing what people did to Trayvon and Mike Brown...

And knowing about Podesta Bros.? And "spirit cooking"?

I just linked a book. All the guy does is lay it all out there. Make up your own minds.

Blogger michaeloh59 October 26, 2017 11:08 PM  

Lots of stupid remarks. Prager should be understood like any other figure. You support him when he's right, which is often, and you oppose him when he's wrong, which is frequent. He has framed many useful memes against the Left. Use em and quit whining that he doesn't like us. He doesn't and never will. So what?

The basic facts are that Prager's silly 'values uber alles' Utopianism is, as Vox has endeavored to preach, hopelessly naive. Proposition Nation fundamentalism is a sinking ship and when it goes under a lot of values determinists like Prager are gonna be crushed. I would agree that cucks are often more dangerous than the Left because they trick right of center but weak of heart people into believing that they can have their white values without the whites. True enough, but Prager offers something in return for this, he is a heavyweight anti-left culture warrior.

Hope that's enough paragraphs for tuber.

Anonymous Wooly October 26, 2017 11:08 PM  

http://www.whale.to/b/inside_the_lc1.html

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 11:09 PM  

"Apparently MLK documents were also part of the set, which might actually be the more noteworthy part."

Boy, I'd like to see those, but I'm sure it would confirm what has already been leaked. Plagiarism, meaning whole hog, lifting everything, and not even covering it up, was the least of that guy's ugliness.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 26, 2017 11:10 PM  

@46 tuberman

Yup, and his insights on China have been incredibly valuable, as he apparently works in actual global economic policy. Though he's still yet to grasp how much Trump has China by the balls. China joining the SDR was a catastrophic strategic failure for them, it let's Trump crush the Chinese currency if it becomes necessary.

Anonymous Wooly October 26, 2017 11:25 PM  

Anyone here like hippie classic rock? Hollywood actors?

Read the book I linked above, then ask: "Do I?"

Then read Vigilant Citizen's articles and photo-essays.

I note that Drudge featured a One-eye symbol photograph of Sade, the singer, today.

Because, of course she did. Complete with a broken mirror. These people are nearly blatant with their symbolism now. One-eye photos, checkerboard patterns, butterflies. They all have meaning, and all the Hollywood and Music Industry elite use those, repeatedly. These people are Satanists. They use and sacrifice children. And teach them to kill. Mike Brown and Trayvon were just older versions of Godo Paulekas.

Anonymous grep October 26, 2017 11:35 PM  

A lot of the PragerU videos are at least a decent start for normies to begin using their neurons. Don't know how much Prager himself had to do with this video as opposed to the host, Michael Knowles.

The content is not surprising really, given that Knowles is part of The Daily Wire crew (i.e. Littlest Chickenhawk).

Anonymous stuff October 26, 2017 11:37 PM  

@ 26 I shouldnt generalize. again I am blaming Jewish people when its not just them, I really need to stop doing that, more to the point what I am trying to say is hey rich over paid fox news channel people whats your problem with Putin, He seems like a nice guy to me , explain your in my view baseless slander

Blogger tublecane October 26, 2017 11:39 PM  

(((Dennis Prager))) is of course a big promoter of Judeo-Christ. In my limited experience, he's harmless. Every time I've ever listened to him, which is seldom, he's always talking about traditional man-woman relations or the amorality of the left. Not deep, but not harmful.

Then again, my experience is limited, as I said. Wouldn't be surprised if Trump blew his thinking gaskets, as with so many employees of Conservatism, Inc. I'm really out of touch with those folks.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 26, 2017 11:41 PM  

Another blank slate conman, yesterday's news.

Blogger Lazarus October 26, 2017 11:51 PM  

michaeloh59 wrote:Hope that's enough paragraphs for tuber.

They weren't indented.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky October 27, 2017 12:02 AM  

I first encountered Dennis Prager many, many years ago when he wrote something against polygamy that really caught my attention. This was before 9/11 and all that encounter with Islam ushered in such commentary. It was quite odd and unique to encounter that. And I was pretty impressed with what he had to say then, he did get me thinking.

So I followed him with some interest now and again after that for a while, but rather quickly grew out of the habit. I figured I must have caught him on a good day once. He wound up being rather mediocre on the whole. He might throw a strike every once and again, but he's a contact pitcher and not an ace.

Anonymous CitizenOutkast October 27, 2017 12:07 AM  

It was kind of ironic. I was here reading about Vox lambasting (rightly) conservatives for doing nothing.

Then, I stop by WND, and there's an article about Prager, wanting to sue Youtube for censoring him.

No mention about Prager or conservatives simply coming up with their own video service to compete with Youtube, or even just to have their own outlet. Nope, just sue. God forbid conservatives with money actually do anything like Castalia House, Infogalactic, or Alt-Hero. Nope. Just whine and try to stay on the leftist's turf, profiting them. It's like that article was printed just to prove Vox's right.

As for Prager himself, one of the first articles of his I read detailed his emerging understanding of leftists being driven completely by emotions, not logic. He's at least a decade or so older than me, and I couldn't believe it was just occurring to him. He spoke of it like it was a revelation.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 27, 2017 12:08 AM  

OT but, for whatever reason, there really was some juicy stuff in the JFK file.

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32105718.pdf

It's a transcript of Nixon, Henry Kissinger & Brent Snowcroft talking. Would need to cross reference armies sales to Israel in the early 1970s, but we were either sending cruise missiles or nuclear warheads to them.

Italian Communists get a passing reference.

Key reason it's in there is that the CIA used to be a part of the NSC decision making process for assassinations. It was in context to what would become the Church Commission which "supposedly" hamstrung the CIA's activities. Colby would be CIA Director that would eventually leak the "dirty deeds" list himself.

That Kissinger & Snowcroft are both showing up explains why this stuff was held over. They're major power players in DC & NatSec. Snowcroft is a key to a lot of groups in NatSec, but laying out his network is almost impossible. Though he did hire out a bunch of the Directorate of Operations staff from the CIA.

Blogger PD Quig October 27, 2017 12:14 AM  

Wander around the conservative blogosphere and regard with incredulity how many of them have links to their Facebook pages and use the FB comments plug-in. "We often give our enemies the means..."

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener October 27, 2017 12:20 AM  

@48 The best that Prager manages to do is state the obvious. On a good day he's tits on a bull.

Blogger Scott C October 27, 2017 1:04 AM  

He debated Michael Shermer on the Dave Rubin Show, but he almost sounded like an agnostic. He's basically a loud centrist.

Blogger rondolf October 27, 2017 1:09 AM  

Prager is judeo-Christianity on steroids. And the first time I hear 'proposition nation was on his show about ten years ago. Started seeing through his act after that.

Blogger SteelPalm October 27, 2017 2:50 AM  

I'm not a fan of Prager, but in all fairness, a LOT of us were supporting Globalist W. Bush in 2004.

Hell, I remember Ann Coulter effusively praising him back in a 2008 column.

We were wrong, obviously, and props to those, like Vox, who saw through the globalist neocon and his facade. But I wouldn't hold that mistake against a commentator. Only if they failed to learn and grow from it.

Blogger WynnLloyd October 27, 2017 3:25 AM  

Yet another conservative who can't see the big picture and attacks Vox and the Alt-Right. Some people just can't tolerate race realism in any form whatsoever.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener October 27, 2017 3:50 AM  

@59 Regarding the lawsuit, will a federal court entertain a claim based on a state law cause of action? They're claiming discrimination based on political views in violation of California law.

Anonymous JAG October 27, 2017 4:15 AM  

WynnLloyd wrote:Yet another conservative who can't see the big picture and attacks Vox and the Alt-Right. Some people just can't tolerate race realism in any form whatsoever.

It's the nice guy crap. Somehow they just don't understand that the left is the only bad guy around.

The Alt*Right are the anti-hero good guys willing to knuckle up with the left.

The NAZI LARP Brigade aren't important enough to warrant worrying about.

Blogger tublecane October 27, 2017 4:33 AM  

One thing that always stuck with me in my limited experience with Prager is hearing say something about how the idea of "blood" has been at the roots of all the worst political movements in history. I don't remember exactly, but obviously he was talking about Nazis. This was long before the resurgence of white identity, when no one was chanting "blood and soil" in public.

If he meant all inheritance, race and/or kinship, and genetics generally, I think he's wrong if not stupid. But I also wonder what leads to goodness if blood is productive of evil. Some form of spirit and natural law? He does talk about God, but I doubt it. More likely ideas, which I've come to understand are wills-o'-the-wisp.

No doubt his regard for Israel and fellow-Jews derives from abstract ideas, and not for reasons of blood.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 27, 2017 5:39 AM  

Salt wrote:Difster wrote:If Dennis Prager and Hew Hewitt started a think tank, it wouldn't even be ankle deep.

Operative word, think. Remove it. Yeah, it would tank. Fast too.


That is actually normative for think tanks, for the noun to negate the adjective.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 27, 2017 5:58 AM  

a deplorable rubberducky wrote:So I followed him with some interest now and again after that for a while, but rather quickly grew out of the habit. I figured I must have caught him on a good day once. He wound up being rather mediocre on the whole. He might throw a strike every once and again, but he's a contact pitcher and not an ace.

Reminds me of Erick Erickson. His seminal article You Will Be Made To Care had such predictive value that it's making millenials rethink support for gay marriage, but that just means that now that it's the Current Year he will never be one of the "good" conservatives to the legacy media, no matter how hard he cucks on immigration or anything else.

Anonymous TS October 27, 2017 6:14 AM  

"I don't know why Vox holds Dennis in such contempt."

Easy. The guy's not even second string compared to Vox, yet he talks trash.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 27, 2017 6:23 AM  

tublecane wrote:No doubt his regard for Israel and fellow-Jews derives from abstract ideas, and not for reasons of blood.

Of course, #69. Blood is evil, as is land, and blood-stained soil the most of all. Everyone knows that. His fellow-feeling must be from the angels.

Blogger Esmée October 27, 2017 6:30 AM  

You complain too much. He must have hit home!

Blogger Tank October 27, 2017 7:32 AM  

tublecane
October 26, 2017 11:39 PM
(((Dennis Prager))) is of course a big promoter of Judeo-Christ. In my limited experience, he's harmless. Every time I've ever listened to him, which is seldom, he's always talking about traditional man-woman relations or the amorality of the left. Not deep, but not harmful.

Then again, my experience is limited, as I said. Wouldn't be surprised if Trump blew his thinking gaskets, as with so many employees of Conservatism, Inc. I'm really out of touch with those folks.


Another ignorant comment. Prager supports Trump every single day. He hails him as being a fighter with courage. His style is not Prager's, but he loves what he is DOING for America. Again, Prager is more ally than enemy.

Blogger VD October 27, 2017 7:43 AM  

You complain too much. He must have hit home!

How would I know if he did or not? I have no idea what he said, although past experience reading his columns gives me confidence that whatever it was, it was false.

Blogger VD October 27, 2017 7:44 AM  

I wouldn't hold that mistake against a commentator. Only if they failed to learn and grow from it.

I would, particularly when that commentator is criticizing someone who got it right. It's called "track record".

Blogger VD October 27, 2017 7:49 AM  

I don't know why Vox holds Dennis in such contempt.

Because he is reliably wrong. And because he postures and strikes superior poses even when he is observably wrong.

The guy's not even second string compared to Vox, yet he talks trash.

That too.

I'm forgiving of him for this mess. Hopefully he recognizes he was out of his league. And of course, doesn't double down. For now, this is "good guy was wrong and messed up".

Why? He knows who I am. He could have asked me to be on his podcast or even simply asked me a few questions to prepare for the video at any time. He didn't bother.

I have nothing but contempt for that sort of idiot. Haven't you ever noticed that even when I am trashing someone, I ALWAYS give them the chance to speak for themselves and never attempt to falsely characterize their views?

Blogger Nate October 27, 2017 8:10 AM  

I don't think I read a single word Prager wrote at WND unless VD quoted it to mock the man.

I don't know that I've seen someone as reliably wrong about everything outside of the Daily Kos.

Blogger Duke Norfolk October 27, 2017 8:18 AM  

VD wrote:He could have asked me to be on his podcast or even simply asked me a few questions to prepare for the video at any time. He didn't bother.

Yes. You just know that this video was made after doing some cursory "research" on the internet; such research being pure confirmation bias-driven and full of cherry picking. They didn't just get some things wrong, in an innocent manner.

They had in mind a goal of slandering the alt-right, not finding the truth. Hey, that's a lot like the left, whatya know!

Nobody who does this kind of lazy, dishonest crap deserves any respect. It shows their fundamental lack of integrity and any desire to see the truth, no matter what that truth is.

I don't have enough time to parse through these kind of peoples' crap for the occasional nuggets of truth.

Blogger Arthur Isaac October 27, 2017 8:34 AM  

Prager and Hewwitt loves them some Rockerfeller Republicans. They are verging on never Trump territory and I'm sure line up far better with McCain/Romney/Flake/Ryan and the "Golden" horde.

Anonymous LurkingPuppy October 27, 2017 9:04 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:OT but, for whatever reason, there really was some juicy stuff in the JFK file.
It's a transcript of Nixon, Henry Kissinger & Brent [Scowcroft] talking. Would need to cross reference armies sales to Israel in the early 1970s, but we were either sending cruise missiles or nuclear warheads to them.
Italian Communists get a passing reference.

They discussed several different topics in that conversation, and the Israel topic was unrelated to SALT violations.

Schlesinger was SecDef, so the SALT treaty violation he was complaining about was by the Soviets. I'm not sure which type of missile deployment by the Soviets he was referring to (SALT I covered ABMs as well as offensive ballistic missiles), or what MFN means.

The Israel discussion was probably related to the Lebanese Civil War which began on April 27, 1975. Israel began arming Maronite Christians in Lebanon in May 1976; the U.S. may have already been pressuring them to do so in June 1975 when that conversation took place.

And the Israelis already had nukes and delivery systems of their own well before 1975: https://infogalactic.com/info/Jericho_(missile)

Blogger michaeloh59 October 27, 2017 10:15 AM  

#57 Lazarus
"They weren't indented."
Sigh.Tough crowd. Tough crowd.

Blogger Good Will October 27, 2017 12:52 PM  

I watched the video and it was very good...until he got to the part where he said the alt-right is anti-God. That's when it went off the rails! This is the worst Prager video I've ever seen. Virtually all of the rest are very good.

Anonymous NotPrager October 27, 2017 1:00 PM  

VD,
You don't like Hannity?

Could you expound on what you find objectionable?

Blogger Solaire Of Astora October 27, 2017 1:32 PM  

I saw Prager on Stefan's show once and he argued for religion by claiming everyone needs to fill some need to believe in something irrational and that without religion people will become irrational leftists instead.

He ceded ground immediately and made an awful utilitarian argument for religion without any regard for truth value. I knew he was an idiot as soon as he said it.

Anonymous Stuff October 27, 2017 7:29 PM  

@1137 my apologies to Fox. Whose to say whose overpaid. Not me. I guess maybe they have evidence that Putin did bad things. I would like to know what those things are though. Why should i just trust Fox.

Blogger jandolin October 28, 2017 12:03 AM  

Prager, like the rest of the cucks, lies about race and crime, race and intelligence and race and civilization.

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