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Thursday, October 26, 2017

Ruffled bowties

This exchange at Instapundit in response to the recent PJ Media article about the blackballing of conservatives by the comics industry nicely summarizes the core problem with conservatism and serves as a microcosm for the explanation for why the Alt-Right is inevitable.
bishopcruz
I hate seeing Chuck Dixon involved in this crap. Make your own conservative comics! Please you're one of the all time greats. Nothing good comes from associating with Vox Day, just because he is right about Social Justice doesn't make him less of a horrible person. One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream. Not as much anymore. I think part of the buildup of the alt-right has been to make them seem more palatable to regular conservatives by showing just how much they piss off the left. And hey, I get that pissing off the left is great, but if you don't watch who you're associating with when you do so, you're going to be standing next to someone like Vox Day or Jared Taylor.

Eric Ashley
If Conservative Inc wants to stop Vox, the best way to do that is for them to actually do their jobs. Tell the Koch Bros to support a line of socially conservative novels and comics, and make Kurt Schlicter the editor.
It's not a bad idea, except time has already run out on conservatives. They had 37 years, the Presidency, the House, the Senate, nine Supreme Court nominations, and two economic booms with which to fight the cultural war. And they did absolutely nothing.

Nor will they do anything. Have you seen a single mention of Alt★Hero anywhere throughout the conservative media except PJ Media and Instapundit? Do you think that despite the hundreds of millions that conservatives will spend on the 2018 and 2020 elections, any of that will go toward fighting the culture war they are losing so badly?

The Alt-Right acts. The Alt-Right fights. The Alt-Right does not surrender. Because of that, the Alt-Right will be the only Right that survives to defeat the Left.

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127 Comments:

Blogger cheddarman October 26, 2017 2:04 PM  

hell yeah!

Blogger Jeff aka Orville October 26, 2017 2:06 PM  

Pussies.

Anonymous DDT October 26, 2017 2:06 PM  

Jared Taylor

Whenever they mention Jared Taylor's name in this spooky ominous way, it says a lot. The guy is just this mild-mannered guy who calmly, rationally states entirely level-headed, well supported (if unpopular) views on race. Invoking him like being categorized with him is a sign of wickedness is a joke.

One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream.

The right should expel milquetoasty cowards, and start with this guy.

Anonymous Damn Crackers October 26, 2017 2:07 PM  

"It's not a bad idea, except time has already run out on conservatives."

If the actions of Flake, Corker, et. al. are any indication, then they themselves know that time is running out for the Never-Trumper/Conservatwat brigade.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville October 26, 2017 2:10 PM  

Is an anachronism aware of it's own death? Somebody beat this thing with a shovel. It's still talking.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2017 2:12 PM  

One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream.

Another country-club cuckservative heard from. This right here is why there's precious little left to conserve. Leftards say "Jump" and the cucks start hopping. Sad!

Anonymous VFM #7916 October 26, 2017 2:19 PM  

"Just because he's right about SJW's"

Is it any wonder Cuckservatives are so weak when they don't understand that to be right on a complex topic such as SJW's one must also be right on the philosophical value systems that support the analysis and argument? That in fact Cuckservatives have accepted that the value systems and philosophies that built Western Civilization are wrong. It explains much.

This is also why the Alt-Retard has and will continue to fail so badly as their conceptual underpinnings are Leftist.

Blogger Howard Stone October 26, 2017 2:22 PM  

Just wait until a fifth grader is expelled from school for doing a book report on Alt-Hero, there’s where the publicity will come from.

Blogger Nate October 26, 2017 2:23 PM  

Conservative Inc is not a threat to the Alt-Right because Conservative Inc is just a plow attached the back of the Proggy Left Tractor.

It has nothing to do with the Right.

Blogger Anchorman October 26, 2017 2:24 PM  

Tell the Koch brothers to...

You mean the gay marriage loving, immigrant supporting, abortion and assisted suicide supporting, Koch brothers?

Yeah, that's a strategy.

Anonymous Bertram October 26, 2017 2:27 PM  

Vox, any chance that you'll start making films to fight back against the SJW horde in Hollywood? Maybe you could get John Milius on board.

Blogger Raggededge October 26, 2017 2:29 PM  

Kurt Schlichter? Ha, they obviously haven't been reading his Town Hall columns lately.

Blogger Brad Matthews October 26, 2017 2:30 PM  

"If conservative Inc. wants to stop Vox"

That about sums up the problem right there

Anonymous Chad October 26, 2017 2:30 PM  

This was the post that finally got me off my proverbial butt to support Alt Hero.

Anonymous Killua October 26, 2017 2:31 PM  

The alt right already won. It won the day Trump got elected.

Not to say that the cultural war is over. There is still a lot of people that can be persuaded to join the cause.

Just wait until a fifth grader is expelled from school for doing a book report on Alt-Hero, there’s where the publicity will come from.

Then we would have President Trump say "Hey kid, cool book report, want to bring it to the white house?"

Blogger VD October 26, 2017 2:35 PM  

Vox, any chance that you'll start making films to fight back against the SJW horde in Hollywood?

Sure, but we'll need 25,000 backers instead of 1,500. It could happen. We'll see.

One thing you'll never see is for us to work with any Hollywood company. Unless they provide the funding, give us complete creative control, don't tell us what to do, and base all numbers on gross revenues. Which I consider to be just slightly less improbable than aliens landing and providing us with the necessary funding.

Blogger Howard Stone October 26, 2017 2:35 PM  

@Bertram, I think Vox’s SJWA series would be a great documentary. A big undertaking no doubt. Dinesh D’Souza May have advice about how to get it in theaters.

Anonymous AB.Prosper October 26, 2017 2:37 PM  

Kurt Schlicter? Good guy. A few more "Conserve Nothing" failures by the establishment and he'll be fully . Alt Right , he's leaning that way already.

Blogger Azimus October 26, 2017 2:44 PM  

VD:Nor will they do anything.

I came to this conclusion when Harriet Myers was nominated to the Supreme Court by Bush 43.

Anonymous patrick kelly October 26, 2017 2:44 PM  

Yeah, all you whiny cuckservatives, conserve just one thing I give a shit about and maybe I'll care.

Anonymous CPEG October 26, 2017 2:47 PM  

@18
I read "Conservative Insurgency" a couple years back. I think Correia bookbombed it. Apart from the "we should pander to Hispanic immigrants more," it was a pretty solid presaging of the cultural insurgency tactics of Gamergate, the Alt-Right, and Trumpism.

Anonymous Bobby Farr October 26, 2017 2:54 PM  

I'm not sure which conservatives were kind enough to do nothing for the last 37 years. They have in general actively championed the twin policies of open borders and permanent war that have formed the unquestionable consensus of the Dems and GOP for 50+ years.

Anonymous Raker Tooth October 26, 2017 2:56 PM  

" Nothing good comes from associating with Vox Day, just because he is right about Social Justice doesn't make him less of a horrible person."
HA-HA-HA! Funniest thing I've read in awhile. Quick blog readers! Run away, you're doomed.

Blogger tz October 26, 2017 2:59 PM  

It was a point of the most recent Hans Herman Hoppe speech that the alt-Right acts, and he made several good points.

The simple point is that the alt-right does things. Sometimes the wrong thing, but corrects it, sometimes just to be provocative, but that exposes leftist hypocrisy.

The rest of the non-left just sits around and moans how they are losing but still have their principles (not even gracefully) so while their kids in kindergarden are schooled in Transgender studies, at least they didn't offend.

The alt-Right avoids all the kafka traps that proved so effective to entrap the NR/NeverTrump crowd.

Blogger tz October 26, 2017 3:01 PM  

I also have to laugh at the "Horrible Person". Apparently th other labels - racistsexisthomoxenotransphobebigot have stopped working, along with white nationalist or white supremacist, or even Nazi.

Vox Day, the Horrible Deplorable!

Anonymous Brick Hardslab October 26, 2017 3:03 PM  

Nothing is shadier than Hollywood financing.

Blogger Longtime Lurker October 26, 2017 3:05 PM  

"One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream."

Conservative Inc.'s right flank is in the air. Attack!

Blogger Sillon Bono October 26, 2017 3:10 PM  

@VD

Never ever stop being "a horrible person", please.

Anonymous Patron October 26, 2017 3:10 PM  

In related news, PragerU does a video on what the Alt-Right is, via the inestimable Mr Wright's blog:

http://www.scifiwright.com/2017/10/what-is-the-alt-right/

I'm waiting to see when/if he'll be redpilled on race and such.

= = =

As for films... Prelude to Axanar raised just over $100k on KS. The end result was a 21 minute film, which helped them raise another $640k for a full film (still being worked on apparently, after the lawsuit against them was dropped). The Prelude cost $125k, so some of the subsequent money raised was used to cover the shortfall.

Obviously a lot of that is down to Star Trek being such a big name, but give it a few years and it may be doable. Some numbers:

Prelude to Axanar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA
Prelude to Axanar cost under $100 per second of footage (21:09 for $125k)
Axanar FAQ: http://www.axanarproductions.com/faq/ (includes some budget stuff)

Blockbuster animated movie costs per second: http://getwrightonit.com/how-much-does-3d-animation-cost/
Animated movie costs per second on KS: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/ideas-commentary/72508-72508.html

Castalia Movie Studios is probably a few years off, but if the Supreme Dark Lord can keep delivering on the books and comics, it could be... fun :) .

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 26, 2017 3:12 PM  

Bobby Farr wrote:

I'm not sure which conservatives were kind enough to do nothing for the last 37 years. They have in general actively championed the twin policies of open borders and permanent war that have formed the unquestionable consensus of the Dems and GOP for 50+ years.

Very true. Conservatives have evidently served only one purpose since their beginning: to conserve the advances made by the globalist-leftist agenda towards a one-world utopian government. When it comes to anything they say they want to conserve, they can't even conserve a women's bathroom from trannies who look like Harvey Swinestein. The brokeback bowtie boyz are always on hand to offer the noble surrender to the SJW raving antifa "on civilized principles".

Anonymous Daniel H October 26, 2017 3:16 PM  

>> One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream. Not as much anymore.

Jay "the putz" Nordlinger over at National Review made this point the other day, but his point was to lament the good ol' days when Buckley and his ilk could get away with this and freeze out dissenting voices, truly alternative voices. Now there is nobody with the weight and "gravitas" of Buckley or Goldwater to do this anymore. Cry in your milk Jay.

Ironically putz Nordlinger declares himself no longer a Republican because Trump won the nomination. Rest assured putz, there is a long way to go before the Republican party has thoroughly cleaned out "conservatives" from the ranks of what ought to be America's alternative party. You are still right at home in the Republican party.

Anonymous Daniel H October 26, 2017 3:18 PM  

>>And hey, I get that pissing off the left is great, but if you don't watch who you're associating with when you do so, you're going to be standing next to someone like Vox Day or Jared Taylor.

I would be pleased and honored to meet both Vox and Jared and have a photo of me snapped shaking their hands. This would go on my Facebook profile.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer October 26, 2017 3:24 PM  

The most relevant quote:

watch who you're associating with

Because really, they might not be the correct sort.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2017 3:30 PM  

My response: "Stand next to Vox Day? Gladly. Alt*Hero contributor # 22177."

Blogger Jon D. October 26, 2017 3:30 PM  

People just upset cuz we're winning when they've lost for so long and they want the credit.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 26, 2017 3:31 PM  

Ron Winkleheimer wrote:watch who you're associating with

The second they start apply that standard to any of the prominent Conservative Inc figures or all members of the GOP I will be happy to consider their point.

The problem is all of the people they support associate with the worst degenerates from Hollywood, to the music industry, to big financial firms to lobbyists. They are all rotten and they all hang out at parties and bars together.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer October 26, 2017 3:31 PM  

Jay "the putz" Nordlinger over at National Review made this point the other day, but his point was to lament the good ol' days when Buckley and his ilk could get away with this and freeze out dissenting voices, truly alternative voices. Now there is nobody with the weight and "gravitas" of Buckley or Goldwater to do this anymore.

I don't think it is gravitas, the world has changed. Mass communications are no longer controlled by a few organizations consisting of mostly like-minded individuals. If it wasn't for smart phones and the Internet Hillary's collapse on 9/11 would have been pish-toshed away as an exaggeration, nothing to see here, conspiracy theory.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2017 3:32 PM  

> Sure, but we'll need 25,000 backers instead of 1,500. It could happen. We'll see.

It'll take time, but as you say about the Alt-Right, it's inevitable.

Anonymous Looking Glass October 26, 2017 3:39 PM  

@6 A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

One of the deepest lessons I've taken the 2016 election? It's actually quite fun to crush your enemies. That's what so much of the "Conservative, Inc" hides. It's fun to win. It's fun to fight evil, even if it's hard.

That Nigel Farage face really applies here. Laugh, enjoy the victories, then get back on the saddle and ride to the next fight.


@18 AB.Prosper

Kurt is a good guy, but he'll be with most in whatever the Right ends up looking like post-Conservative, Inc. But the thing to watch is he's a reasonable voice from the War Fighter class, and they're not happy.


@16 VD

I've thought about Alt-Movie Financing a bit since Alt-Hero went active. The real key is the Business Structure. That's how they get away with "Hollywood Accounting". There should be ways to prevent it, but you'd need some really detailed expertise to pull it off. The project would be its own business and would need to pick very specific State to operate from.

You could actually do some brutal things to Hollywood with that approach, since you'd be able to recruit most of the top tier talent pretty easily. A film project would be a share-based company independent of the Production Company. This would allow actors, directors & production to have specific share of the profit, along with direct pay. (And it makes the accounting transparent to all parties.) But that takes some really deep analysis of the legal environments.

Also, Alt-Hero would work much better animated. All Super Hero comics have worked better in animation than movies, with some small exceptions, but that's Batman.

Blogger Johnny October 26, 2017 3:40 PM  

What I find remarkable about these people is their selective outrage. Most oriental groups are quite racist, and Islam puts an even finer point to it by being tribalist, which is bias for one's own clan. And blacks are given to it also, and to some extent the Latins. And yet they don't notice, and are at times willing backers of these even more racist groups at the expense of the less clannish, less racist white group.

Blogger VD October 26, 2017 3:43 PM  

My response: "Stand next to Vox Day? Gladly. Alt*Hero contributor # 22177."

That is indeed effective.

Anonymous Toddy Cat October 26, 2017 3:46 PM  

"They had 37 years, the Presidency, the House, the Senate, nine Supreme Court nominations, and two economic booms with which to fight the cultural war. And they did absolutely nothing."

When the time comes to bury Conservatism, Inc. they should put this on it's stone...

Anonymous VFM #7916 October 26, 2017 3:50 PM  

And now Jason Yungbluth has now entered the fray.

Load Meme's and prepare to fire...

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella October 26, 2017 3:50 PM  

Relativity Films. Kevin Spacey, and his partner. Pitch. See what happens.

Anonymous BBGKB October 26, 2017 3:51 PM  

I can prove SJWs always lie to be false.

Cuck (((Schumer))) tells democrats to lie only until the next election.
https://crimeresearch.org/2017/10/senate-democratic-leader-chuck-schumer-ny-urges-democrats-hide-views-gun-control-2018-elections/

Blogger dc.sunsets October 26, 2017 3:55 PM  

Exactly who do these clowns think is their constituency?

I envision them marching along, shouting encouragement, then stopping, turning around and realizing there's not one damn person following them.

Then they realize that the Leftists marching next to them are their real bros. They can all Flake Off.

Anonymous franklinjennings October 26, 2017 4:00 PM  

@bishopcruz

Ma figa! Me ne frego, stronzzo. Che sciffo, vafanculo!

(My comments never make it over there after trolling Ed Driphole thru most of 2016.)

Blogger Joshua_D October 26, 2017 4:07 PM  

tz wrote:It was a point of the most recent Hans Herman Hoppe speech that the alt-Right acts, and he made several good points.


Link?

Blogger VFM #7634 October 26, 2017 4:11 PM  

Sure, but we'll need 25,000 backers instead of 1,500. It could happen. We'll see.

One thing you'll never see is for us to work with any Hollywood company.


@16 VD
25,000 instead of 1,500? The way things are going, I see Alt-Hollywood showing up before 2025. And Old Hollywood need not apply, any more than Marvel and DC do for Alt-Hero.

" Nothing good comes from associating with Vox Day, just because he is right about Social Justice doesn't make him less of a horrible person."
HA-HA-HA! Funniest thing I've read in awhile. Quick blog readers! Run away, you're doomed.


@23 Raker Tooth
"Horrible person" makes me think of that very female computer in Portal 2.

Blogger lowercaseb October 26, 2017 4:11 PM  

VFM #7916 wrote:And now Jason Yungbluth has now entered the fray.


of course he has...he's like a Scalzi that actually leaves the house.

Have fun at the boot party...

Anonymous BanjoStrap October 26, 2017 4:11 PM  

"One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream."

So one of the things he likes about conservatives is that they alienate the far-right to appease the moderate left instead of wanting to alienate the left to appease the far right. And they wonder why young "conservatives" are radicalizing.

With friends like these who needs leftists.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 October 26, 2017 4:16 PM  

The CONservatives are fatally corrupted with racial capitalism.

Supporting massive immigration in order to capitalize on the much less demanding labor of non-White racial groups.
The profits are private, but the horrendous costs are socialized on the backs of the White middle class.

The CONservatives seem oblivious to the fact that this corrupted form of capitalism always leads to the progressive cancer of racial socialism.

Slavery led to the Civil War.
Mass 3rd world immigration is rapidly growing government power at the expense of self reliance and true free enterprise.

Some version of an Alt-Right needs to succeed because the globalist alliance of the Left and the GOPe will turn America into an overcrowded impoverished mess over time.

Blogger wisdom wizard October 26, 2017 4:19 PM  


I think you and your readers will be interested in this three part expose into Hollywood's hatred of Trump voters. The first part is up.


http://www.breitbart.com/tinseltown/

Blogger Joshua_D October 26, 2017 4:22 PM  

This is the worst PragerU video ever.

https://youtu.be/MHXL00wY3nY

Anonymous Randomatos October 26, 2017 4:28 PM  

Yet another example of cons not understanding "lead, follow, or get out of the way!"

Blogger sysadmn October 26, 2017 4:31 PM  

tz wrote:I also have to laugh at the "Horrible Person". Apparently th other labels - racistsexisthomoxenotransphobebigot have stopped working, along with white nationalist or white supremacist, or even Nazi.

Vox Day, the Horrible Deplorable!


hmm, "Vox Day - The Deplorable's Deplorable! Why Settle for Less?"

WRT the Koch Brothers, the Instapundit's said for years that if they wanted to fight the culture wars, they should buy a women's magazine. Instead, Better Homes and Gardens and Good Housekeeping have started down the road to Hell travelled by Cosmo, and Vogue.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 26, 2017 4:37 PM  

Nothing good comes from associating with Vox Day

From a conservative viewpoint, this is true, but only because cucks define the following as evil:

Christianity
Philosophical coherence
Traditional culture
Strategy
Victory

So these spineless bastards are right: nothing they define as good can come from associating with a man of honor.

They have to go back to their foam parties.

Blogger R Doom October 26, 2017 4:39 PM  

Vox!

PragerU has done a video on the Alt-Right. They mention you, and I really think they've got a few things wrong. I would hear your thoughts and corrections.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 4:46 PM  

Killua wrote:The alt right already won. It won the day Trump got elected.

Not to say that the cultural war is over. There is still a lot of people that can be persuaded to join the cause.

Just wait until a fifth grader is expelled from school for doing a book report on Alt-Hero, there’s where the publicity will come from.

Then we would have President Trump say "Hey kid, cool book report, want to bring it to the white house?"


It is still very early, with Castalia Books, Stefan and Jordan being the earliest salvos, this Alt*Hero will(as you suggest) skyrocket it further. Yet, a long way to go.

Conservatives are not going to do anything for the culture wars, and even if they poured hoards of money in now it would fall flat.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 26, 2017 4:49 PM  

BanjoStrap wrote:With friends like these who needs leftists.

Fiends like these are leftists.

Anonymous Avalanche October 26, 2017 4:51 PM  

OP: time has already run out on conservatives. ... And they did absolutely nothing.

BINGO! I half-snarl at them then they call now, asking for money: I suggest thy wake-up and come to the Alt Right.

Blogger SteelPalm October 26, 2017 4:56 PM  

you're going to be standing next to someone like Vox Day or Jared Taylor.

Sounds like one hell of an endorsement to me! And an unintentional compliment towards our esteemed host.

Blogger tuberman October 26, 2017 5:00 PM  

Can you imagine, when about a year and a half from now when Alt*Hero is a great and building success, some "conservative" money people might decide they have to put out Comics and Novels for their conservative BS, and they may even pick a manager as far Right as they can stand. Then they proceed to throw a lot of money at it... it will fail completely.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora October 26, 2017 5:05 PM  

What's so offensive about VD in the first place? I never quite understood what the big problem is. Saw him first on Molyneux and never once have I found a single objectionable quality or opinion of his. Is it really just the ethnicity and IQ stuff? That's about the only thing I can think of. All I ever actually see are vague unsubstantiated murmurings about how horrible he is and literally nothing beyond that. If they really do hate the subject of average intelligence so much it's interesting they never bring it up when attacking him. I suppose that says it all. The only reason they'd have to not speak of it is they know it's true and don't want people catching on. It's quite something how so many of these creatures present themselves as Christians while holding truth seekers in disdain.

Anonymous Truk Manguson October 26, 2017 5:07 PM  

Schlister is a slimy cuck. Very anti-Trump during the primaries; now pretends to support him. Almost always slips in some gratuitous left handed compliments against Trump to virtue signal. Cannot be trusted.

Blogger JACIII October 26, 2017 5:09 PM  

Is that Taylor over there trolling? Whenever I see "dread ilk" and VD both disparaged I figure it's Taylor.

Blogger Longtime Lurker October 26, 2017 5:10 PM  

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Blogger Longtime Lurker October 26, 2017 5:12 PM  

@43: "And now Jason Yungbluth has now entered the fray."

Watch Jason troll. Watch Jason troll hard. Watch Jason troll harder.

Watch Alt Hero. Watch Alt Hero rise. Watch Alt Hero rise higher.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 26, 2017 5:37 PM  

What's so offensive about VD in the first place?

He doesn't lose pre-emptively, and that makes cons look bad.

Blogger Ceasar October 26, 2017 5:55 PM  

bishopcruz:

"One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream."

Whether you like it or not, you need to integrate those "worst parts" to survive in our current society. What you may find is that what you refer to as "worst parts" are actually superior parts that inflame your own personal insecurities. This can lead to whiny bitch syndrome.

Besides, applying stupid rules to only yourself while your opponent beats you over the head with your rule book is no virtue. Its actually pretty stupid. Don't be stupid.

Anonymous DeeJay October 26, 2017 6:06 PM  

Not to mention that up until very, very recently, most of the right never even considered what was going on culturally in any specific manner, only blindly condemning it all as general decadence, Allan Bloom-style.

I can't tell you how many times I tried to discuss, say, the libertarian themes in "The Dark Knight Returns" or the treatment of capitalism in "M.U.L.E." with like-minded friends, only to get a bunch of sniggering about how childish comic books and video games were.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2017 6:10 PM  

This is the worst PragerU video ever.

That's like saying "this is the deepest hole a boomertard ever dug himself into". It shows we've passed the "LOL" stage and now the cucks are getting Concerned that the alt-right isn't going away.

Can't wait to see what boomertards like Prager do when they realize the truth: We. Really. Don't. Care. Should be a Beck-Cheetoes class meltdown.

MOAR Butter for muh Popcorn!

Blogger tublecane October 26, 2017 6:12 PM  

"One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream"

There's nothing wrong with expelling people, so long as it's the right people. You decide on the basis of what helps you win, not on the basis of whom the opposition can use as excuses to keep you out of the mainstream. Which they control, because you won't take it, because you're too busy excluding people.

This fellow can't even being it up without giving the game away. What he liked about the right, implying the left doesn't bother. Admitting they had to make sacrifices to get into the mainstream, instead of redirecting the mainstream in paths of their choosing, like the left. Not that they had the power, but they should at least want the power. As opposed to being kept boys.

Blogger The Kurgan October 26, 2017 6:18 PM  

The trick is not so much the funding. I have a good friend who actually produced a full length and decent feature film. The problem is that hollywood has a stranglehold on the distribution.
If Vox can crack that part I can crack the money side of it.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2017 6:21 PM  

The problem is that hollywood has a stranglehold on the distribution.

In theater chains. Not over the net. Also not in indie theaters. Just saying.

Blogger ZhukovG October 26, 2017 6:22 PM  

What is so offensive about Vox Day? He tells the truth. And in an Empire of Lies, that is an act of terrorism.

Vive La Terreur!

Blogger tublecane October 26, 2017 6:24 PM  

@64-What offends them, if he is in fact offensive, is that the same thing that offends SJWs about VD: he's politically incorrect. Just so happens these guys' sense of what's correct is a hair to the right of the SJW. Unlike them, squishy-cons likely don't fear gas chambers and fewer acceptable ways to get their rocks off (a deadly serious issue for Current Year Man). They fear loss of influence/income.

These people have climbed to positions of (some) influence holding onto certain ideas, which they either took to be eternal verities or are just too lazy to tinker with. That would be toouch emotional labor. Among these are likely egalitarianism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, etc., plus non-serious Christianity, anti-populism (though not in the form of healthy elitism), free marketeering, imperialism or globalism in place of nationalism, and so forth. Vox's positions on all of these are probably to the right of them and definitely objectionable.

The "ethnicity stuff" is no small matter, and the "IQ stuff" is partly taken to be ethnicity stuff under another name. No doubt they wouldn't like being called "midwits," but it goes beyond that. It strikes at the heart of the Blank Slate, which is idolized by all children of the Enlightenment, right and left.

Blogger Howard Stone October 26, 2017 6:27 PM  

So Trump declares the opioid epidemic a national health crisis today. Question: Does this make the wall a priority?

Blogger Ian Miguel Martin October 26, 2017 6:30 PM  

"This is the worst PragerU video ever."

Alt Right BTFO, and Vox called out by name for that infamous point14? Not ‘alf bad, I’d say.

Blogger Cetera October 26, 2017 6:35 PM  

Howard Stone wrote:So Trump declares the opioid epidemic a national health crisis today. Question: Does this make the wall a priority?
Trump might be laying the groundwork for a Clear and Present Danger clause style of action for the wall, if nothing else works. One way or another, that wall is going up.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Clear_and_present_danger

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 26, 2017 6:42 PM  

The GOPe and Conservatism Inc. devotes a lotta' time assailing the folks in the Alt-Right but so little to attacking the Marxists in Black Lives Matter and Antifa. At least I can detect a meaningful application of natural rights doctrine in things said by dudes like RamZPaul and Jared Taylor. Meanwhile, Antifa is openly communist and Black Lives Matter makes Assata Shakur (a Leninist) an icon. That's a problem.

Blogger Lazarus October 26, 2017 6:45 PM  

Howard Stone wrote:So Trump declares the opioid epidemic a national health crisis today. Question: Does this make the wall a priority?

Absolutely. Part of the problem of an insecure borders is the importation of drugs.

Trump said this himself in a recent interview with Lou Dobbs, Bob's brother.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 6:48 PM  

"One of the things I tended to like about the right was the expelling of the worst parts of us from the mainstream."
--

Does grasshopper not realize that this is what is happening before xis very eyes?

Maybe he doesn't realize he is the worst part being expelled :P

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 6:50 PM  

@2 Jeff aka Orville
Pussies.
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That describes them so nicely, it's a tie between this and Cuck

Anonymous CPEG October 26, 2017 6:50 PM  

@68 Longtime Lurker
I think Jason interprets any positive coverage of Alt-Hero as his own personal Child-Rape-Signal, at which point he takes off his clothes and becomes CAPTAIN MOLESTO, defender of the internet from white supremacist superhero cartoons.

You don't want to know his origin story.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 6:51 PM  

Razorfist rippin another Cuck a new one - Flake
https://youtu.be/VIzps759Ago

Blogger Karl October 26, 2017 6:52 PM  

I'm going to give away this for free (which may be what it's worth). Film financing. Do an ICO (initial coin offering) but as a studio. Replicate old studio talent system (so your talent costs don't balloon) by doing film projects as coin based.

Eventually, the SEC is going to crack down on ICOs as unregistered security offerings BUT if you can get in while the going is good.

I mean, FFS Burger King is going to make their own crypto-coin. So, Castalia Coin is not improbable.

Blogger Karl October 26, 2017 6:53 PM  

P.S. if you set up a crypto-coin alternative to Spotify/Pandora for royalties watch the artists switch to it.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 6:54 PM  

It's really becoming the point where these cucks can just be ignored. Which is what the lefties have been doing with them for decades.

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 6:58 PM  

@19 Azimus

I came to this conclusion when Harriet Myers was nominated to the Supreme Court by Bush 43.
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This was one of GWBs top boneheaded moves back then. Many current day alt-righters were asleep back then. But this one woke up a few.
Also when he tried selling our ports to rag heads. And Good Job Brownie XD

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 7:09 PM  

@58 R Doom
PragerU
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Is this that same useless Cuck Dennis Prager?
I had the misfortune to hear his awful radio show during the primaries when he was just another dime a dozen #NeverTrump .

Anonymous Neverbutter October 26, 2017 7:14 PM  

OT poll Is it OK to shitpost for Soros?

I ran across a CL ad for shitposters pretending to be altright. I archived and screen shorted and posted it to /pol/, then I answered the ad, then I reported it as against ToS. They pay in cryptocurrency.

I think I can redpill while posing as a altretard shill. Is it wrong?

Blogger Were-Puppy October 26, 2017 7:15 PM  

@78 Howard Stone
So Trump declares the opioid epidemic a national health crisis today. Question: Does this make the wall a priority?
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look around for his interview with Lou Dobbs last night. He said something like the wall was even more important to keep drugs out than even the illegals.

Anonymous Simplytimothy October 26, 2017 7:37 PM  

Mel Gibson?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd October 26, 2017 7:42 PM  

Neverbutter wrote:I think I can redpill while posing as a altretard shill. Is it wrong?

If that were wrong, would we want to be right?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2017 7:43 PM  

Random name?

Blogger Howard Stone October 26, 2017 7:49 PM  

@Were, will do.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 26, 2017 8:17 PM  

@94
Random name?

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 26, 2017 8:34 PM  

tz wrote:The alt-Right avoids all the kafka traps that proved so effective to entrap the NR/NeverTrump crowd.

The alt-right blows up kafkatraps with We. Don't Care. We reject their pretensions to moral authority, and condemn them as wicked for living in unrepentant sin.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2017 8:35 PM  

> What's so offensive about VD in the first place?

Oh, nothing they can point to specifically. You'll hear vague mutterings about Nazi, White Supremacy, etc., but when you check, you find they never actually quote a full comment Vox made, and often simply quote an accusation from someone else.

But Vox has made a point over his time in print of skewering the pompous twits of both the left and right and never backing down. That's what actually upsets people, just as it does with Trump. Fighting back simply isn't done, you see.

> I think I can redpill while posing as a altretard shill. Is it wrong?

With apologies to Luther Ingram:

"If trolling you is wrong, I don't wanna be right..."

Anonymous JAG October 26, 2017 8:56 PM  

Conservatives have evidently served only one purpose since their beginning: to conserve the advances made by the globalist-leftist agenda towards a one-world utopian government.

This is why they refuse to repeal Obamacare and cut taxes despite spending most of the last decade championing both as reasons to elect them.

The bitch-fest they are in now over the Alt-Right is because a lot of them know the jig is up. Not only are they being replaced, but the advances of the left are slowly being rolled back thanks to President Trump.

Once the Alt-Right has taken full control of the GOP the roll back becomes a tsunami, and that scares the hell out of Conservative Inc.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club October 26, 2017 8:57 PM  

give us complete creative control, don't tell us what to do

I think alien funding is far more likely than that sort of freedom. Whatever promises made, eventually someone will come along saying "I know we said complete creative control, but we think you need a romantic subplot about lesbian dinosaur robots. We think that'll appeal to an underexploited demographic with lots of disposable income" and then use every underhanded trick at their disposal to try and muscle you into it. It's possible I may have witnessed such behavior.

@74 - That still holds true somewhat, but with Vox's "brand" pretty well-known, he could probably get it onto Amazon. God knows there's a lot of eye-wateringly bad films available there from "low-budget" filmmakers. They'd leap at a quality offering.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 26, 2017 9:13 PM  

I'm gonna expand a bit, since we're talking about ruffled bowties. Why would we condemn them as wicked for living in unrepentant sin? Aren't they prudes?

Well, 1. no and 2. that isn't the standard. The new commandment is to love God with all of your heart, mind, and soul, and to love your neighbor like yourself. But to lie to someone is to kill them in your heart, by putting them in the bucket of "people that I don't care about."

And the ruffled bowties lie. They lie about man's law, they lie about natural law, and they lie about God's law; whatever it takes to advance the Current Year banal cultural prejudices of the transnational managerial class.

They LIE lie Lie lie LIE lie LIE Lie lie, and that is a sin.

Anonymous JAG October 26, 2017 9:23 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Razorfist rippin another Cuck a new one - Flake



Someone needs to hit Flake with a right hook that knocks his nose back into the center of his face.

Anonymous WaterBoy October 26, 2017 9:27 PM  

Solaire of Astora @64: "What's so offensive about VD in the first place? "

Well, you see, a long, long time ago, the Japanese were planning their invasion of the West Coast...

Blogger bw October 26, 2017 9:29 PM  

The very purpose of (R.) was to insure no true Nationalist or Populist ever got their nomination.
RNC = DNC
Same Same

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2017 9:32 PM  

> Well, you see, a long, long time ago, the Japanese were planning their invasion of the West Coast...

A faint whinny wafts through the air, its origin uncertain.

Blogger Doom October 26, 2017 9:38 PM  

The problem with establishment conservatives doesn't start from within. It is currently systematic, but that is true of any potential leaders, alt-right or otherwise... education. I have seen how actual conservatives are kept out or otherwise harmed, even moderates if that part actually tickled. I am wondering whether the chicken or the egg has to come first, how that can be addressed, and such.

I do believe education, a return to it, is the key. Curious as to workarounds until that can be salvaged or removed and rebuilt.

Blogger James Dixon October 26, 2017 9:45 PM  

> Curious as to workarounds until that can be salvaged or removed and rebuilt.

"Homeschool or die."

Blogger rumpole5 October 26, 2017 9:47 PM  

Right now the life expectancy fpr American white males is declining. Given this fact, I certainly think that SOMEONE should be advocating fot whites. I've listened to Jared Taylor, and I've never heard him say that whites are superior, only that they need an advocate. I think that Taylor is correct.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 26, 2017 9:59 PM  

tuberman wrote:
Can you imagine, when about a year and a half from now when Alt*Hero is a great and building success, some "conservative" money people might decide they have to put out Comics and Novels for their conservative BS, and they may even pick a manager as far Right as they can stand. Then they proceed to throw a lot of money at it... it will fail completely.

Smells like a golden opportunity to part some cuckfools from their money....

Blogger Doom October 26, 2017 11:54 PM  

James D.,

Of course. If obviously at this point that is akin to asking the gnat to deal with the rhino, further only working until they hit the worst part of educational gate-keeping. It may end up being a near automatic tag for exclusion... if it isn't to some degree currently, in some institutions. (I am not fully versed in those current affairs, merely suspicious.)

Blogger Lazarus October 26, 2017 11:56 PM  

rumpole5 wrote:Right now the life expectancy fpr American white males is declining. Given this fact, I certainly think that SOMEONE should be advocating fot whites. I've listened to Jared Taylor, and I've never heard him say that whites are superior, only that they need an advocate. I think that Taylor is correct.

Just heard a Joe Corolla podcast about Asians. They do not need advocates, and don't have them. They just do family and education and kick ass.

Whites should do the same. Never mind the had wringing about race, Just do family and education and kick ass.

Blogger Lazarus October 27, 2017 12:02 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Whites should do the same. Never mind the had wringing about race, Just do family and education and kick ass.

For instance. I happened to go to a library one day in a big city with lots of Asians, but they were far from the majority.

It was Sunday. Besides the staff, I was the only whitey in the whole place. Everyone else was Asian and they were studying. Not hung over, not wondering if they had contracted an STD, but studying....working.

Gonna eat your lunch.

Blogger Madame Ringading October 27, 2017 1:19 AM  

Rio 2096 is an example of a movie made on a very modest budget ($3 million, I believe) that looks very good because the director and animation team pulled every maximum-bang-for-the-buck trick in the world and borrowed a few more from anime techniques besides. Now, a few million is an easier near-term goal than a few tens of millions, it's amazing what can be achieved when everything is structured and run correctly.

Just be careful where you structure it from.

Anonymous Clay October 27, 2017 1:33 AM  

Eh, sorry about going OT, as usual...but I hope to try and aquatint younger folks.

I've been listening to my library of AC/DC music tonite, and Angus Young is one of the best guitarists I ever heard. Bon Scott was amazing.

As I said...it was just for those youngsters.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf October 27, 2017 1:39 AM  

Last year I was in China doing some work and found Voxday's blogspot was blocked. I'm leaving again in a few weeks, I'll be curious if that's still the case.

Blogger Thad tuiol October 27, 2017 2:29 AM  

I can't decide whether to dress as Vox Day or Jared Taylor for Halloween...

Blogger VD October 27, 2017 5:11 AM  

They just do family and education and kick ass.

You left out the ruthless nepotism and clannish cooperation that was outlawed in the USA under the guise of "civil rights". If Americans behaved like the Asians do in Asia, there wouldn't be any non-whites living in the USA.

Blogger Andrew Brown October 27, 2017 5:31 AM  

The Alt-Right is inevitable!

Blogger JACIII October 27, 2017 7:18 AM  

Lazarus wrote:Just heard a Joe Corolla podcast about Asians. They do not need advocates, and don't have them. They just do family and education and kick ass.

Whites should do the same. Never mind the had wringing about race, Just do family and education and kick ass.


Asians in the US are not perceived as a threat (other than H1B) or competition by any prominent identity group. They are basically invisible politically. Granted, the invisibility schtick has served Jews well for the last 60 years.....

Blogger David Hill October 27, 2017 8:49 AM  

Let's cut spending before we talk about cutting revenue

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable October 27, 2017 9:19 AM  

JACIII wrote:Asians in the US are not perceived as a threat (other than H1B) or competition by any prominent identity group. They are basically invisible politically. Granted, the invisibility schtick has served Jews well for the last 60 years.....

Yeah, sure, not like the Asians became white or anything. Or like the far left has a BDS movement that makes the far right look positively philosemitic.

Blogger Eric Slate October 27, 2017 11:58 AM  

I learned something in this post...there's a conservative media besides PJ TV and instapundit. ;)

Blogger James Dixon October 27, 2017 5:10 PM  

> Let's cut spending before we talk about cutting revenue

Then you'll never talk about cutting revenue. How about we cut revenue and bankrupt the system, forcing spending cuts.

Blogger Wolfman at Large October 27, 2017 6:44 PM  

@117 go as a Spanish Conquistador those guys had style.

Blogger S1AL October 27, 2017 7:53 PM  

"Granted, the invisibility schtick has served Jews well for the last 60 years....."

They also don't like competition in the 'model minority' category, which is one reason there are no Asians in Hollywood.

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