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Monday, October 16, 2017

Taleb calls out Mary Beard

This online relationship between these two intellectuals continues to be highly entertaining:
NassimNicholasTaleb @nntaleb
1/ Many aggressive pseudolibs have smthg highly politically incorrect hidden in them.
-Weinstein demeans women
-Mary Beard is deeply racist
73 replies 83 retweets 299 likes

mary beard‏ @wmarybeard  3h3 hours ago
Could you please take this tweet down.
28 replies 10 retweets 262 likes

NassimNicholasTaleb‏ @nntaleb
Dear Prof. Beard,
I am aware of your attempts (direct & via an overactive mob) at constraining my rights of expression. The answer is no.
About the only way it could get better is if Beard is dumb enough to take Taleb, who never backs down from a fight, to court. I have no doubt that he'd be able to prove his case six different ways and end up with Beard being forced to pay for an official court determination of her own racism.

For crying out loud, all Taleb has to do is cite any of 500 different African-American scholars to conclusively prove that Mary Beard is white, therefore his assertion is true and cannot possibly be considered defamatory.

In fact, this may be an interesting new anti-SJW front in the cultural war.

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52 Comments:

Blogger GraceIronwood October 16, 2017 8:09 AM  

"In fact, this may be an interesting new anti-SJW front in the cultural war."

I agree, it's about time the left's obsession with intricate typologies of race is critiqued.

Anonymous Rocklea October 16, 2017 8:12 AM  

There's nothing for it but to bring back the pillory for the likes of Mary Beard.

Blogger JACIII October 16, 2017 8:14 AM  

African American "Scholars".

Anonymous DDT October 16, 2017 8:14 AM  

Good for Taleb on fighting her. On the other hand, unless I misunderstand him, he wrote a column saying people shouldn't call themselves 'white' because 'white' references purity, not race, which strikes me as bullshit.

Anonymous Steve October 16, 2017 8:16 AM  

I already knew Mary Beard was a wrong un after seeing what she did on TERRAHAWKS

Blogger Desdichado October 16, 2017 8:25 AM  

Rocklea wrote:There's nothing for it but to bring back the pillory for the likes of Mary Beard.
I believe our cultural heritage has the answer for a common scold in the form of the dunking stool.

Blogger VD October 16, 2017 8:25 AM  

he wrote a column saying people shouldn't call themselves 'white' because 'white' references purity, not race

He's technically correct. Whether you accept the relevance of his correct reasoning is another matter entirely.

Anonymous Laz October 16, 2017 8:27 AM  

@3. JACIII: African American (((scholars)))

Anonymous DDT October 16, 2017 8:28 AM  

Fair enough. Not like anyone needs total hivemind agreement to believe he's doing a good thing here. Glad to see someone firing back at the worse parts of academia over this kind of thing.

Blogger Desdichado October 16, 2017 8:33 AM  

DDT wrote:Good for Taleb on fighting her. On the other hand, unless I misunderstand him, he wrote a column saying people shouldn't call themselves 'white' because 'white' references purity, not race, which strikes me as bullshit.
To appreciate what someone is doing on one front does not require you to agree with him on every front.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 16, 2017 8:47 AM  

For she should be beaten over the head with the "white privilege" rhetorical hammer till she stops moving.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 16, 2017 8:52 AM  

I begin to believe that in the coming financial apocalypse, popcorn futures are going to be one of the few counter-cyclical investment options ...

Blogger Shimshon October 16, 2017 9:01 AM  

Still not tired of winning.

Taleb does refer to "Judeo-Christian," so he has that against him. But not as if Mary Beardy-White-Woman will call him on it.

Anonymous 5343 Kinds of Deplorable October 16, 2017 9:11 AM  

Taleb does refer to "Judeo-Christian,"

Lots of smart people do, and most of them are not cucks and cons. They've just accepted a common expression without ever analyzing it.

Blogger HanSolo October 16, 2017 9:14 AM  

OT, right wing victory in Austria

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/452688/right-wing-populist-victory-austria-election

The center-right People’s Party was floundering early this year, trapped in an unpopular, status-quo coalition with the leftist Social Democrats. Then, in May, 31-year-old Sebastian Kurz — the leader of the party’s youth wing — mounted a coup and ousted the party’s complacent leadership. Kurz quickly moved his party to the right. He promoted tougher policies in a range of areas: migration, welfare benefits for foreigners, relations with the European Union, and border controls. He called for a ban on the wearing of burqas. He then announced his party could no longer govern with the Social Democrats, forcing this month’s snap election.

All these moves pushed Kurz’s People’s Party into first place in the polls, leapfrogging both the Social Democrats and the Freedom Party, a long-time populist party that once had neo-fascist associations but has worked to purge itself of questionable elements. Heinz-Christian Strache, the Freedom Party’s leader, joked at the “late bloomer” Kurz for stealing his party’s ideological clothing. He proclaimed himself “the visionary” who had shown Kurz the way. In the end, Kurz and his party took first place, with 31.4 percent of the vote. The Freedom Party won 27.4 percent, and the Social Democrats won 26.7 percent. Even Chancellor Kern of the Social Democrats had to admit the nation has seen a “massive slide to the right.” The Freedom Party’s Strache was exultant that the negative media coverage hadn’t prevented his party from gaining votes. “The voter is always right. The ongoing hounding of us libertarians did not work,” he told Der Standard newspaper. The almost certain outcome of the election will be a coalition government of the People’s Party and the Freedom Party.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) October 16, 2017 9:20 AM  

a “massive slide to the right”?

or a massive STRIDE?


VD
all Taleb has to do is cite any of 500 different African-American scholars


Nigger Science always proves that all non-Blacks are irredeemably Racist.

Feminist Science always proves that all men are irredeemably Sexist.

hrm.

i think i'm seeing a pattern here.

OpenID paworldandtimes October 16, 2017 9:24 AM  

Nigger Science always proves that all non-Blacks are irredeemably Racist. // Feminist Science always proves that all men are irredeemably Sexist.

Remove "irredeemably" as subjective, and those pseudo-scientists are right.

PA

Anonymous Arie Zionheart October 16, 2017 9:26 AM  

Please take this down, Vox. It is demeaning and alt-retardish.

Blogger Doom October 16, 2017 9:34 AM  

Never thought a Beard could help develop


a morning wood.

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 16, 2017 9:48 AM  

5343 Kinds of Deplorable wrote:Taleb does refer to "Judeo-Christian,"

Lots of smart people do, and most of them are not cucks and cons. They've just accepted a common expression without ever analyzing it.


Yep. Men of the West must attack and expose these false terms, but although I've never done the "judeochristian" thing, I do have a horrible habit of using "they" when I mean "him."

The algodecay must be fought at every front, but don't kill the host to do it!

Blogger Desdichado October 16, 2017 10:18 AM  

VFM #6306 wrote:Yep. Men of the West must attack and expose these false terms, but although I've never done the "judeochristian" thing, I do have a horrible habit of using "they" when I mean "him."

The algodecay must be fought at every front, but don't kill the host to do it!

It's unavoidable to pick up a few of these ticks. Living in Western civilization is like growing up in the home of parents who smoke three packs a day. We may not be feminists or any other form of SJW, but we're so steeped in the second hand smoke, that we have to be extremely vigilant of the signs of cancer.

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 16, 2017 10:18 AM  

Further to @15's news, the Czech Republic has just enacted a constitutional right to bear arms.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/06/29/czech-republic-passes-constitutional-right-to-bear-arms/

Blogger The Observer October 16, 2017 10:19 AM  

OT: Freestartr appears to be down. "Error establishing a database connection".

Blogger Resident Moron™ October 16, 2017 10:20 AM  

Quote of Note:

Andrej Babis, expected to become the next Czech prime minister, completely rejected mass migration this week commenting: “We have to fight for what our ancestors built here. If there will be more Muslims than Belgians in Brussels, that’s their problem. I don’t want that here. They won’t be telling us who should live here.”

Anonymous basementhomebrewer October 16, 2017 10:20 AM  

Winning the court case would be just the begging. Once you have a court case that rules she is racist, her school and the BBC would be easily persuaded to distance themselves from her.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 10:40 AM  

@6

Cucking or ducking stool, interestingly enough.

Blogger Arthur Isaac October 16, 2017 10:43 AM  

Taleb is usually so careful saying precisely what he means. "Judeo-Christian" is as ambiguous communication at best.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 10:49 AM  

@19

Unless there's some brilliant meaning behind 'morning wood here' that makes it more than you having... you know... all I gotta say is ewww.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 10:51 AM  

Ladies and whatever the hell Bob K. Mando is! I present to you the medieval genius that was the cucking/ducking stool! The cure to the common scold!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucking_stool

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) October 16, 2017 11:43 AM  

17. paworldandtimes October 16, 2017 9:24 AM
Remove "irredeemably" as subjective, and those pseudo-scientists are right.



it's MY fault that the heights of Porch Monkey IFCUCKINGLOVESCIENCE is irredeemably Subjective?

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) October 16, 2017 11:49 AM  

29. Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 10:51 AM
whatever the hell Bob K. Mando is!



i'm the Eskimo Hippy Commie Capitalist of Vox Popoli.

could i interest you in some Gormy Crystals? guaranteed to vibrate so as to stimulate you in all the ways that Brawndo doesn't.

i also have Free Range certified Gormy Herbs which may be used as a spice or incense.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 11:58 AM  

@31

Yeah, whatever. Dude, seriously: I don't even have that much of a problem with the content of your posts most of the time, and most of the time, when I can actually force myself to power through, I end up agreeing... but please! I'm begging you! Properly capitalize like you should unless you're like, on a phone, or have a busted keyboard, or just admit you're mentally retarded so I can at least go, 'Eh. I understand. I'm gonna keep ignoring your posts for the large part, but hey, at least you would properly capitalize if you could.'

Anonymous MJimmy October 16, 2017 12:04 PM  

All Men are Pigs

Women are Equal to Men


It is written, the Forces of Darkness are planning a nation wide doxing of Thought Criminals on the Fourth of November.

Hat tip to /pol/

Anonymous Counselor Friendly October 16, 2017 12:14 PM  

@32 Emmanuel Mateo-Morales de Grande Cabeza de Vaca

If you are unable to fully appreciate the homage to e.e. cummings that is a bob k. mando comment, perhaps just scrolling past it would be an alternative?

Anonymous BBGKB October 16, 2017 12:18 PM  

To appreciate what someone is doing on one front does not require you to agree with him on every front

I am thankful for Colon Kirkpatriks efforts to redpill white people by playing a real black on TV. Come on Mary don't take this laying down.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora October 16, 2017 12:26 PM  

I'm pretty sure Taleb said white refers to purity only in the context of it being contrasted with people of color, implying there's white and then everyone else. He is against Nordicism or whatever you'd call it though since so much of European greatness was spawned around the Mediterraneann.

Blogger Doom October 16, 2017 12:31 PM  

Emmanuel,

Watching the left consume itself should give every grown man a wood (which also excludes male leftists from the grown man list). Literalists... well, you could still end up on the list.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 16, 2017 1:23 PM  

Nigger Science always proves that all non-Blacks are irredeemably Racist.

Ever since Yakub's white devils got away from him after their invention on the mutha-ship. Before that fateful time, Dey wuz Kangz n sheeit.

Anonymous MJimmy October 16, 2017 1:37 PM  

hey did you drive mein kampfer van
til it ran out of gasss?

you know i designed that thing
(r
an good)

e. e. schickelgruber


The poet, whose work was recently discovered hidden in an old suitcase is rumored to be a Haitian-Chinese transexual.

Anonymous User October 16, 2017 4:10 PM  

The stereotypical blonde blue eyed nordics aren't even really scandinavians, they're east asians from the gobi desert region. Their modern cousins are the hybridized Uighur people who still show remarkable genotypic and occasionally phenotypic similarities.

Blogger Thucydides October 16, 2017 4:46 PM  

So much winning!

Blogger ant becker October 16, 2017 5:02 PM  

Is it better to say 'ethnic-Britons' (Welsh, Irish, Scots, English etc) of European heritage, instead of white?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 6:40 PM  

@34

What? What reference? You're not honestly telling me there was some literary figure who used improper lower casing as a stylistic choice, right? Because that's just silly.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales October 16, 2017 6:46 PM  

"Watching the left consume itself should give every grown man a wood (which also excludes male leftists from the grown man list)."

While it is entertaining... if I would like to get wood, I would get wood from other sources of wood than my enemies getting chopped down, because wood from that source is all kinds of creepy and messed up. Also: how much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood.

"Literalists... well, you could still end up on the list."

Hey man, if getting wood from watching your enemies destroy themselves, entertaining as such a sight is, poetically just as such a sight is, makes a man a grown up, then I think I'd prefer going back into my crib with a bottle of warm chocolate lactate and sucking my thumb or a binky and thinking the world wasn't a place where people are so fallen, because that's just all kinds of fucked up in the head... like lefties, interestingly enough.

Blogger roundeye October 16, 2017 9:06 PM  

I just don't understand how someone would get the balls to pick a fight with the most widely acknowledged polymath in their intellectual prime...it is like an amateur boxer fighting prime Roy Jones Jr.

Blogger S1AL October 16, 2017 10:54 PM  

"Is it better to say 'ethnic-Britons' (Welsh, Irish, Scots, English etc) of European heritage, instead of white?"

Only if you're pretending that the English aren't mostly French and German.

Blogger Doom October 16, 2017 11:32 PM  

They all have to go home.

Anonymous zebedee October 17, 2017 2:57 AM  

Err, the English aren't mostly French of German as has been repeatedly shown by genetic studies of the population.

Anonymous Simon in London October 17, 2017 4:40 AM  

Taleb's criticism seems to be that Beard & co reduce diversity of races to white/non-white, all non-whites are interchangeable, and that this is supremacist. Taleb's own objection appears to be to getting lumped in with sub-Saharan Africans.

But of course Beard & co do this to demonise whites, not exalt them. Whites are the anti-race, like the Jews in Nazi mythology, the source of all Evil. Taleb gets to be in the 'good' non-white category.

I guess there is a further point that while whites are the Evil race in the cultural-Marxist mythology, they are also the only ones with moral agency (which they must use to self-eliminate); non-whites are constructed as a generic passive Other, the object of action not the movers.

Blogger S1AL October 17, 2017 11:13 AM  

"Err, the English aren't mostly French of German as has been repeatedly shown by genetic studies of the population."

This is exactly the opposite of true. The English are ~40% French and ~25% German on average. Fun fact: the Angles and Saxons we're Germanic tribes.

The Welsh, Scottish, and Irish, however, are old-Celtic.

Blogger S1AL October 17, 2017 11:20 AM  

Here's the link. Note that the English are the result of waves of migration and interbreeding across about a thousand years.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3000998/Are-Welsh-truest-Brits-English-genomes-contain-German-French-DNA-Romans-left-no-trace.html

Anonymous Daniel H October 17, 2017 7:41 PM  

My retort to any white man/woman how cries, "racism": Let's audit your Facebook friends. Enough said.

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