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Friday, October 20, 2017

There is no black extremism

Steve Sailer points out that the New York Times has claimed that there is no such thing as racist black extremism:
Wait, what exactly is black identity extremism? The answer is: nothing. It’s a fiction, as others have powerfully argued, including Andrew Cohen, a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice.

But that doesn’t make the report any less sinister. As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

The F.B.I. document takes pains to say that the mere exercise of constitutional rights to protest and even the “rhetorical embrace” of violent tactics “may not” constitute extremism. But the danger — or even the aim — is that the entire racial justice movement gets painted with the brush of terrorism.

The next time there is an act of violence by an African-American against police officers, brace yourself for the right-wing media or the attorney general or the tweeter in chief to seize on the phrase “black identity extremists.”
 Neither Mr. Rosenthal nor Mr. Sailer appears to have noticed that the inevitable conclusion of this line of reasoning is that murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal black behavior.

Is that really the position the New York Times wishes to publicly assert?

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Anonymous Steve October 20, 2017 8:46 AM  

It’s a fiction, as others have powerfully argued, including Andrew Cohen

I am shocked - shocked! - that a Mr Cohen should argue this.

Blogger hewhofuckscouchs October 20, 2017 8:48 AM  

I had a similar reaction. Despondent head-shaking and muttering to myself, "they really don't realize what the f/_$ they just said."

Blogger Robert Divinity October 20, 2017 8:54 AM  

The implication plainly is murder and violence are normal black behavior. The New York Times, but certainly not Sailer, would justify such crimes in either a political or non-political context as the fruits of racism.

"Violence is never the answer but..."

Hell, I've read as much.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 20, 2017 8:56 AM  

"Black identity extremists" are Marxists and they don't know it. They say "Assata taught me" but none have actually read the Black Liberation Army's manifesto "Message to the Black Movement". That title appears to be an attempt to piggyback off Elijah Muhammad's "Message To the Black Man". BLA set out to overthrow capitalism and establish a "Black Nationalist Socialist State" (They were communist nationalists). Idiots within popular Black culture (ie. Black Lives Matter) embrace Assata without ever knowing this because they don't read. Her murderous behavior is an extension of the ideology she embraced. When BLM and others say "Assata Taught Me", they are right but they don't know why they are right.

The politics of popular Black culture is a Marxist disaster. #MLKWasASocialist

Anonymous Solomon Honeypickle IV, proud octaroon October 20, 2017 8:59 AM  

Statistically speaking, octaroons are only 1/8 as violent as full blooded mandingoes. Just sayin'

Anonymous BBGKB October 20, 2017 9:01 AM  

Mr. Rosenthal nor Mr. Sailer appears to have noticed that the inevitable conclusion of this line of reasoning is that murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal black behavior.

I am pretty sure Mr Sailor has followed that through.

It’s a fiction, as others have powerfully argued, including Andrew Cohen

Just like jewish privilege.

Blogger Zaklog the Great October 20, 2017 9:01 AM  

Is that really the position the New York Times wishes to publicly assert?

If so, it would be the most honest thing the NYT has said in a long time.

Blogger Koanic October 20, 2017 9:07 AM  

The hippopotamus has coexisted successfully with sub-Saharans for thousands of years via the strategy of hair-trigger territorial aggressive murder. It's time to play hungry hungry hippos!

Anonymous Rocklea October 20, 2017 9:09 AM  

"Neither Mr. Rosenthal nor Mr. Sailer appears to have noticed that the inevitable conclusion of this line of reasoning is that murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal black behavior."

He ain't do no wrong, he just shot a cop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ToCYhIJAs

Anonymous Generic Adopter Of A Black Foster Son October 20, 2017 9:09 AM  

B-but, a black snowflake fluttered its way down from Judeo-Christian heaven into my backyard, proving that NABALT!

Anonymous CarpeOro October 20, 2017 9:15 AM  

So... they are claiming there is no such thing as any identity based extremism? Or that blacks are not like other racial groups running the entire gamut of beliefs, philosophies, etc.? The later means either they are less evolved than the rest of humanity or more evolved. Pick one and be prepared to defend it.

Blogger Brad Matthews October 20, 2017 9:18 AM  

Mr. Priest just placed the narrative at risk of further exposure.

Blogger John Williams October 20, 2017 9:22 AM  

Does this standard apply to Whites?

Blogger tuberman October 20, 2017 9:38 AM  

I knew a Cohen once, and he sent his own mother to a state mental institution, so he could take over her thriving business (there were still state mental houses then). It's okay, his mom stole the business from his dad. Cohen had two kids, a boy and a girl, and they were both complete sluts, or low lives in all sense of the phrase.

Anonymous Mayonnaise October 20, 2017 9:39 AM  

Rosenthal wants to tamp down the use of "black identity extremism" so that it won't catch on. Not surprisingly, he's actually shining a spotlight on it.

"Black identity extremism." I like that phrase. I'm going to start using it A LOT.

Blogger Furthest Right October 20, 2017 9:39 AM  

What a "Cohen"-cidence!

...I'll leave now.

Blogger tuberman October 20, 2017 9:41 AM  

Only 2/3 of Blacks are violent trash, so do not type them.

Blogger FrankNorman October 20, 2017 9:41 AM  

14. tuberman October 20, 2017 9:38 AM

I knew a Cohen once, and he sent his own mother to a state mental institution, so he could take over her thriving business (there were still state mental houses then). It's okay, his mom stole the business from his dad. Cohen had two kids, a boy and a girl, and they were both complete sluts, or low lives in all sense of the phrase.


...and some people think the Jews can reconstitute the Levitical priesthood with people like that?
(shakes head)

Something I've noticed - it used to be that the Left's line was "no, black people are not violent, and if you claim they are you're a bigot".
Now they are subtly morphing it to "yes, of course black people are violent, and if you see anything wrong with that you're a bigot."

Blogger Desdichado October 20, 2017 9:43 AM  

@18 I guess that's a win for HBD.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III October 20, 2017 9:43 AM  

Sailer's whole point on all of this (one of his main topics the last few months) is that this normal black behavior has increased since the cops have been suppressing it less via policing post-Ferguson/BLM -- with most of the victims being black.

The increase in dead black bodies is more than the entire history of lynching.

Thanks, Obama.

Genuinely.

Blogger ZhukovG October 20, 2017 9:44 AM  

Perhaps the NYT knows exactly what it is saying. I would make the ethnic cleansing of African-Americans by Latin American invaders more palatable, or at least easier to ignore by White Leftists.

It would be ironic, though not surprising, if in future years the defenders of the few remaining African-Americans were Southerners.

Blogger Ceasar October 20, 2017 9:44 AM  

During my time in military service (12 years), out of the top 4 racists I met, three were black. Two out of these three black racists were followers of the Nation of Islam. One was finally pushed out due to inciting sedition/violence among young black soldiers and the other received punishment for attacking a white soldier while he was sleeping. He was angry that the white soldier was dating a black girl.

Any one who suggests blacks are not capable of black identity extremism has never "lived" around or among blacks or their culture.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 20, 2017 9:46 AM  

Or Mr. GoodWhite wants us evil right wingers to handle the dirty work of discrediting and destroying the influence of the black identity extremists. Good luck to that, our cucks will be sending the BIEs their daughters for sex dumpsters while calling the alt-right "racists."

I operate under the assumption that no one hates a Democratic voter like another Democratic voter, you try and split the loot without rancor.

Blogger YIH October 20, 2017 9:48 AM  

that murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal African behavior.
And water is wet.

Anonymous Godfrey October 20, 2017 9:49 AM  

What he's really saying is that blacks are subhuman and incapable of distinguishing between good and evil.

The man is a racist.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 20, 2017 9:49 AM  

Ok, which cuck will be scolding the alt-right first for using "black identity extremist?"

My money is on David French.

Blogger Jew613 October 20, 2017 9:51 AM  

I'm glad the NY Times has come to accept blacks tendency towards crime.

Blogger JWM October 20, 2017 9:54 AM  

"Black Identity Extremist". Gosh, it just rolls off the tongue like a mouthful of broken teeth. Eloquent, these folks.

JWM

Anonymous VFM #6306 October 20, 2017 9:58 AM  

Is that really the position the New York Times wishes to publicly assert?

Yes. They have a serious fear of a black planet, but want to make sure that no one accuses their support for genocide to be racist. Diversity + Proximity = NYT

Anonymous kfg October 20, 2017 10:00 AM  

" . . . murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal black behavior."

And, according to Glasgow police, "muslim with a truck" equals violent terrorist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoTZ7loWyuQ

Blogger Mr.MantraMan October 20, 2017 10:00 AM  

I fully support Black Identity's right to exist.

Blogger JohnofAustria October 20, 2017 10:06 AM  

Sailer doesn't even mention the recent (2017) attacks by blacks who admitted to anti-white motives to their alleged murders. I can think of 3 cases off the top of my head.

Anonymous Elmer Fudd October 20, 2017 10:11 AM  

Any one who suggests blacks are not capable of black identity extremism has never "lived" around or among blacks or their culture.

Yes. I went to forced-busing schools for six years. Never once did I witness whites beating up or intimidating blacks, yet dozens of times I saw blacks punching whites, taking their money, etc., simply because they were white.

1. There is a definable black "culture."
2. That "culture" is racist and seriously f**ked up.

Anonymous bw October 20, 2017 10:16 AM  

is simply normal black behavior.
Is that really the position the New York Times wishes to publicly assert?


Absolutely. What's anyone going to do about it? It was certainly their (((century))) after all, and they give 2 sh*ts about the negro.
It's simply mocking Whites with what (((they've))) done to them via proxy .

Blogger Robert What? October 20, 2017 10:22 AM  

So, we basically accept blacks killing a certain number of White people (hopefully not us or anyone we know) because it is just part of their culture?

Blogger Student in Blue October 20, 2017 10:23 AM  

Some people have a hard time with the concept of a rhetorical question.

Blogger Robert What? October 20, 2017 10:29 AM  

Assuming that statement was meant for me, I should have said "according to the NYT we accept ..."

Anonymous Crew October 20, 2017 10:32 AM  

It seems it won't be long before blacks believe they have the numbers (they might already think so) and that it is time for insurrection.

Then it will be game on ... Rudyard Kipling had something to say about that.

Blogger Desdichado October 20, 2017 10:41 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:I fully support Black Identity's right to exist.
As do I. But not in the homeland of a white nation.

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative October 20, 2017 10:47 AM  

But...but...but...muh BLANK SLATE! Whut about muh BLANK SLATE?

Blogger tuberman October 20, 2017 11:00 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:I fully support Black Identity's right to exist.

Hispanic gangs fully support the right of Blacks to have several bullets in their backs. No coverage from the MSM.

Blogger Purge187 October 20, 2017 11:00 AM  

Boo-friggin'-hoo. Groups like the SPLC have been targeting Whites for years now for having the audacity to support the Constitution or homeschooling. Now they know how it feels.

Anonymous Counselor Friendly October 20, 2017 11:04 AM  

Andrew Cohen! Your slip is showing! No, not that one, the other one. The Freudian one.

Your Freudian slip, it's showing!

Blogger Hauen Holzwanderer October 20, 2017 11:07 AM  

Take the blank slate, add magic dirt and cuck tears, get a muddy mucky mess.

OpenID paworldandtimes October 20, 2017 11:07 AM  

1920s Klansman: "The nigger is an animal. The jew is of the devil."

Cold War conservative: "muh bootstraps"

Dawn of the Internet: "muh HBD"

Reawakening: "The nigger is an animal. The jew is of the devil."

Blogger Johnny October 20, 2017 11:08 AM  

All white people guilty. All black good. Or whatever. Not that I care about what these people think about anything.

Blogger Lazarus October 20, 2017 11:14 AM  

Does systemic racism against whites by blacks in South Africa count?

Anonymous Albert October 20, 2017 11:17 AM  

I'll note that the article _did_ try to dismiss the FBI statistics showing that black-on-white violence is about 200 time more common, proportionately, than white-on-black. So we're supposed to believe that there's either no behavioral difference or that whites are the more violent group.

Damage control now that moneyball fans are starting to get woke, methinks. Ain't gonna work, but not surprised that they're trying it.

In hindsight, seems obvious that victim tantruming during sports broadcasts was a tipping point that they should have done whatever they could to avoid, but I doubt the tastemakers care for moneyball any more than I do, so they were about as blind to that minefield as I was.

Except that _I'm_ enjoying watching this unfold.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore October 20, 2017 11:20 AM  

@47 You might have pointed out the truth of SJW Law #3. They accuse others of doing the things they actually do.

Blogger tuberman October 20, 2017 11:29 AM  

This NYTs article deserves absolute snark.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 20, 2017 11:42 AM  

Why would one expect any less from the flagship of the (((fake news))) fleet that took six decades to even quietly admit that Walter Duranty was less than perfectly truthful in all his reportage during a mass murder largely carried out by (((those whose porcine squealing never stops))). Carlos Slim's blog even supports Duranty's claim to the Pulitzer Prize to this very day. Again - Juournalist + Rope + Tree. Some assembly required.

Blogger YIH October 20, 2017 11:44 AM  

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-17/sprott-demand-marc-fabers-resignation-after-racist-diatribe
Why was he forced to resign and dis-invited to cable business channels? Because he said
"And thank God white people populated America, and not the blacks. Otherwise, the US would look like Zimbabwe, which it might look like one day anyway, but at least America enjoyed 200 years in the economic and political sun under a white majority."
https://infogalactic.com/info/Zimbabwe which under White rule was known as ''the breadbasket of Africa'' and a food exporter now faces widespread ''food insecurity''. Other areas that prove that he is correct and water is wet are Detroit, Baltimore and much of Chicago.
And for those who are still on ''it's the liberalism stupid!'' kick answer me this: Why isn't San Fransisco just like Chicago? Why isn't Minneapolis just like Baltimore? Why isn't Seattle just like Detroit? No, it's the Africans you moron!

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents October 20, 2017 11:50 AM  

Richard Spencer's Gainsville speech was properly secured by local police in riot gear. So not much happened. The flash mobs of alt-Retards failed to show. Swatches and protestors were kept apart in the venue by empty seats and cops. Nobody outside of the college town seems to have paid attention.

I'm so sure "awareness" was raised, though.

Blogger tuberman October 20, 2017 12:04 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:Why would one expect any less from the flagship of the (((fake news))) fleet that took six decades to even quietly admit that Walter Duranty was less than perfectly truthful in all his reportage during a mass murder largely carried out by (((those whose porcine squealing never stops))). Carlos Slim's blog even supports Duranty's claim to the Pulitzer Prize to this very day. Again - Juournalist + Rope + Tree. Some assembly required.

Just two things:

1) Should the rope be dyed purple?
2) Guts in, or guts out?

Anonymous Bertram October 20, 2017 12:05 PM  

So that fine King Shabazz fellow who wishes to murder White babies in their incubators is not a "Black identity extremist". Thanks for clearing that up, media Jews. BTW, what does Mr. Cohen think about the Black Israelites?

Blogger kmbr October 20, 2017 12:16 PM  

**So, we basically accept blacks killing a certain number of White people (hopefully not us or anyone we know) because it is just part of their culture?**

Oh yeah, fully where we are headed.

I highly recommend this book https://books.google.com/books/about/Out_of_America.html?id=a84jBzA76-oC

Out of America: A Black Man Confronts Africa.

Easy, couple day read, at most.

It explains, a bit, the mentality of the whites living in Africa. "They" came in in the middle of the night". "They" broke into the house and raped his wife. "They" hacked his arms off and left him on the side of the road.

It also goes into some detail about the average, daily, INSANE violence EVERY.SINGLE.DAY on that continent not just towards whites but black on black. It's a written by a highly enthusiastic black reporter who, after ten years in many countries, came to a very dispirited conclusion that there was no "saving" Africa.

African population is exploding and they are ON THE MARCH. This level of violence is coming everywhere.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 20, 2017 12:37 PM  

@54.
*No color needed. New rope is best as it stretches and thus works less efficiently - takes longer so you get all the colors you like in the process.

*Guts out. That way the meat can dry out nicely in the sun. Less stench, longer display. Maybe even put in smokehouse for a week for slow-cooking before display. Perhaps serve up in dinduville as 'long pork' after a while.

Blogger Thucydides October 20, 2017 12:40 PM  

"Is that really the position the New York Times wishes to publicly assert?"

Yes

Blogger Desdichado October 20, 2017 12:45 PM  

America is getting sick and tired of paying cultural and financial blackgeld, and the signs of that impatience for it to end are starting to become ubiquitous in the era of Make America Great Again. That's why there's so much screaming; the end is clearly in sight for those who profit by it. They try to prolong it, or rationalize to themselves that things won't actually change, but at a visceral, intuitive level, they know it.

Anonymous Grayman October 20, 2017 12:49 PM  

@56 kmbr

African invasion of Europe will be the mass second wave that determines the future of Europe. The current invasion is just the beachhead force. If Europe doesn't cleanse the beachhead force before the main wave invasion starts sometime on the next 5 to 10 years, they are toast. They have to clear the "beachhead" and then prepare for a southern assault by wave after wave who have no intent to to forcibly take Europe. The Africans may be stupid but they are aware enough to figure out that staying in Africa once it really starts to collapse, is suicidal.

Anonymous Grayman October 20, 2017 12:52 PM  

The blacks in the US are in big trouble, they will be stuck between the whites and Hispanics in any ethnic conflict and would be decimated by both. The Hispanics are unlikely to agree to alliance and actually honor it and the whites are unlikely to accept them either at any significant scale.

Anonymous Chandler’s Ghost October 20, 2017 12:55 PM  

What a weird argument from this Cohen character:

“But that doesn’t make the report any less sinister. As Cohen pointed out, the F.B.I. has a “history of surveillance and intimidation of black Americans that frequently goes beyond legitimate law enforcement into paranoia, racism, and political expediency.”

So because law enforcement has done this, it’s imposiible for blacks to be domestic terrorists?

Anonymous Grayman October 20, 2017 1:00 PM  

@56 kmbr

The funny thing is if you listen to some of the public statements made by various commanders of military forces in Europe, they know exactly what is coming, they arent nearly as converged as they may pretend (in order to keep their jobs)

OpenID paworldandtimes October 20, 2017 1:09 PM  

African invasion of Europe will be the mass second wave that determines the future of Europe

Not an invasion in the normal sense. Every singe African in Europe has either been been transported there, or was aided in transit, by European authorities.

Not to mention, he is materially taken care of by Europeans, and is assured of his physical safety via police repression of native Europeans.

It's even more unusual, in that said European authorities have hadno rational motive on face value for bringing in those Africans -- who are indisputably all-cost, no-benefit, down to the last one.

Sure, if present European leadership keeps on keepin' on, this "invasion" will take place as noted. Otherwise, it's back to the Gatling gun... we have it, the Africans don't.

PA

Blogger Lovekraft October 20, 2017 1:14 PM  

So this is just in our imaginations?

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/10/20/white-people-devils-man-launches-racist-tirade-against-london-underground-commuters/

Anonymous Crew October 20, 2017 1:33 PM  

The latest updates to both Infogalactic's and Wikipedia's on attacks on black churches https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_attacks_against_African-American_churches point out that a black man was arrested in the last known case in November 2016.

It would be an interesting research project to find out who was arrested in other cases and see how many blacks were arrested. Just sayin.

Blogger DonReynolds October 20, 2017 2:21 PM  

There have always been "black militants" and "black nationalists", usually with muddled Leftist (anti-capitalist) ideologies, a flag, and a black national anthem. Stokely Carmichael, Eldridge Cleaver, and Bobby Seale are good examples, along with the Black Panther party, and the Peace and Freedom party. Some became more like criminal street gangs, like the Crips and the Bloods, or even vigilantes, like the BLM and New Black Panther party.

But what must be the most dangerous of them all is the Nation of Islam, whose claim to black racism is rooted not in political ideology, but have made that racism into a religion, a bastardized form of Muslim fanaticism. These are the biggest danger. Often compared to the Ku Klux Klan (and called the "Klan with a Tan"), but the KKK never claimed to be a religion. The Nation of Islam even has their own para-military wing, called the Fruit of Islam, complete with the usual militarist uniforms and flags, training camps, and organization. While primitive in the military sense and without heavy weapons or logistical support, they have managed to achieve the organization necessary to start a conflict they could never stop or win. That is their greatest danger...that they would spark something much worse than any riot and believe in the righteousness of their cause because it is part of their invented religion to do so.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 20, 2017 2:28 PM  

Lovekraft wrote:
So this is just in our imaginations?

Londonistan dindu chimps out over Y.T. DeVille


All beez in yo honky head. Anyone recall how native British woman complained about all the die-ver-city a few years back and was charged (maybe jailed) by the totalitarian regime of Cuck Island with blasphemy against Golden Dindu or whatever the Deity du jour is of the Church of Cuck Island headed by Queen Dimmi II? Betcha this dindu gets outta jail free.

Anonymous Gen. Kong October 20, 2017 2:39 PM  

@67. It's not even Islam, but a completely bogus faux-religion cooked up by a Musloid con-man (W.D. Fard) originally from India, who went to New Zealand and ended up in Chicago where he played his scam on the local dindus. Add in some spaceship (muthaship) tales of Yakub (the original negro scientist) and how his experimental white devils got away and there you have it. Now with the added benefit of the whole We wuz kangz n sheeit history.

The "church" led by Jeremiah Wright where one B. Hussein Obama slept in his seat for decades of Sunday mornin' hate whitey screeching practices a 'Christian Theology' which bears more than a passing similarity to that of the illustrious W.D. Fard. In Wright's final stunt in the minstrel show, he left his black wife to run off with a white SJW female. The Honorable Elijah Muhammed might have been onto something about certain whites being devils....

Anonymous LurkingPuppy October 20, 2017 2:57 PM  

Mayonnaise wrote:Rosenthal wants to tamp down the use of "black identity extremism" so that it won't catch on. Not surprisingly, he's actually shining a spotlight on it.
(((He))) was trying to hang a lampshade on it.

Blogger WynnLloyd October 20, 2017 3:18 PM  

True.
The best thing about them.

Blogger WynnLloyd October 20, 2017 3:20 PM  

Funny how it always end up like that. You'd think people would learn.

Anonymous JAG October 20, 2017 4:53 PM  

Neither Mr. Rosenthal nor Mr. Sailer appears to have noticed that the inevitable conclusion of this line of reasoning is that murderous violence and other criminal behavior is simply normal black behavior.

And it follows from here that they have to go back.

Anonymous Mr. Rational October 20, 2017 6:17 PM  

Mayonnaise wrote:he's actually shining a spotlight on it.
It's like he's never heard of the Streisand effect.

Blogger Phil October 28, 2017 5:49 AM  

https://refixico.wordpress.com/2017/10/26/a-cure-for-black-indentity-extremismgrant-african-americans-indigenous-peoples-status-says-fort-negros-fixico/

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