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Thursday, November 02, 2017

A strange, newfound respect

Rod Dreher is on a roll.
Donald Trump, in his rough way, is right:

President Donald Trump, during a White House Cabinet meeting Wednesday, said he wants to terminate the Diversity Visa Lottery, a program that distributes around 50,000 visas to countries where there is a low rate of immigration to the US.

“I am, today, starting the process of terminating the diversity lottery program,” Trump said, seated next to Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. “I am going to ask Congress to immediately initiate work to get rid of this program, diversity lottery, diversity lottery. Sounds nice, it is not nice, it is not good. It hasn’t been good and we have been against it.”

He added: “We’re going to quickly as possible get rid of chain migration and move to a merit-based system.”

Trump added that based on preliminary information, the attacker in New York “was the point of contact, the primary point of contact for, and this is preliminarily, 23 people, that came in or potentially came in with him and that is not acceptable.”
Of course the God-Emperor is right. The USA has to get rid of a) birthright citizenship, b) chain migration, c) dual nationality, and d) post-1965 immigrants and their descendants if it is going to survive intact.

Which is why it probably won't. But it's not over until it is actually over.

It is amusing how Dreher still has to qualify that he does not approve of the God-Emperor's tone. After all, saving the nation would be so much more palatable if it were done wearing the proper bowtie.

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104 Comments:

Blogger Tank November 02, 2017 7:17 AM  

It's an evolution. Lots of people (including moi) started off with "I don't really like the way this guy comports himself, but ..." and ended up (like moi) enthusiastically voting for him. It's a start.

Blogger tuberman November 02, 2017 7:27 AM  

How many revolutions did his bow tie spin before releasing that article?

Blogger Nate November 02, 2017 7:27 AM  

Merkelized. I like it.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 02, 2017 7:36 AM  

All humans are exquisitely attuned to their first-order self-interest. Rod can never escape that he's a White Southerner and he's responding deeply to those protective instincts. He doesn't yet understand what his instincts are rationalizing for him, which is that Trump will protect his family's survival & long-term interests.

Related, this is also why most of the Jewish factions respond badly to Trump. He knows how to play them in the same way that the Elite Jews do, though Trump isn't looking to pillage them. (Elite Jews steal & destroy non-Elite Jews, which is actually the reason they get kicked out of countries, as you end up in a situation where you can't trust them.)

Identity runs deep. Which is why the "It's Okay To Be White" that's cropping up on college campuses is one hell of a brutal rhetorical attack.

OpenID bc64a9f8-765e-11e3-8683-000bcdcb2996 November 02, 2017 7:37 AM  

"The USA has to get rid of a) birthright citizenship, b) chain migration, c) dual nationality, and d) post-1965 immigrants and their descendants if it is going to survive intact."
Don't be silly. Decimation(10%) pour encourager les autres
ought to be enough to regain a manageable aura of civility.
CaptDMO

Anonymous DronesRbad November 02, 2017 7:48 AM  

LOL. Let the history be re-written. False narrative, fake news.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/02/clinton-brazile-hacks-2016-215774

Blogger Sherwood family November 02, 2017 7:58 AM  

Yep. While I do not believe Dreher will ever be Alt-Right, he might get close enough to be a useful bridge for other normies to cross over on.

Blogger Thucydides November 02, 2017 8:06 AM  

While options a, b and c are doable (assuming the Congress gets sorted out and Representatives and Senators start representing the interests of their constituents), option d requires such a high level of effort and resources that I am fairly confident in saying it won't happen.

So long as the first three options are implemented, that should buy enough time to stabilize the situation and provide room to work on the *other* myriad issues plaguing the United States and Western civilization.

Blogger Doom November 02, 2017 8:06 AM  

Can those who are just beginning to notice be at all trusted? In my personal dealings I avoid them. I have seen them revert on a dime, stabbing new "allies" right in the back. Damned dangerous.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2017 8:11 AM  

@8

"While options a, b and c are doable (assuming the Congress gets sorted out and Representatives and Senators start representing the interests of their constituents), option d requires such a high level of effort and resources that I am fairly confident in saying it won't happen."

Well, maybe not as official law, but if unrestricted violence breaks out, yes, it will happen.

Blogger Doom November 02, 2017 8:13 AM  

As to d? If the others are implemented that might come down to blind justice, the legal system doing for whites what it currently does for darks and pervs... simply not bothering to notice, at least to regain a correct balance. That would be as much as could be expected. The rest would be up to those who believe it to be right. No guarantees, if I do think that would be the limit.

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 8:15 AM  

@1 " Lots of people (including moi) started off with "I don't really like the way this guy comports himself,"

Funny thing is, I grew up ON Long Island, around guys like him. I kept trying to reassure friends and neighbors -- no, he's GREAT! Solid, honorable, probably trustworthy! I KNOW guys like him! He'll be really good!! Guess hes' an acquired taste for NON-Long Islanders... to ME, he's *normal* and pretty great besides!

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 8:17 AM  

@4 "He doesn't yet understand what his instincts are rationalizing for him, which is that Trump will protect his family's survival & long-term interests."

Maybe someone should point that out to him?

Blogger Anno Ruse November 02, 2017 8:19 AM  

"Would love to send the NYC terrorist to Guantanamo but statistically that process takes much longer than going through the Federal system... ...There is also something appropriate about keeping him in the home of the horrible crime he committed. Should move fast. DEATH PENALTY!" - PDJT

Oh how I wish Trump had been running things during 9/11. I like that he refers to him as "the NYC terrorist", reminding people of exactly how bad things can be if you let these people in. I'm still praying for the full Muslim ban.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum November 02, 2017 8:19 AM  

Is the process called uncucking? Decucking? Dunno. But I notice Douglas Wilson going through the same process as Dreher. Didn't vote for Trump, and makes that point clear in every post. Pussy, pussy, pussy -- and not presidential. But he loves everything Trump is doing. Sometimes he's almost giddy.

Anonymous Starbuck November 02, 2017 8:21 AM  

get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?

Blogger VD November 02, 2017 8:21 AM  

So long as the first three options are implemented, that should buy enough time to stabilize the situation and provide room to work on the *other* myriad issues plaguing the United States and Western civilization.

It will not. There are three materially viable possibilities: deportation, extermination, political collapse. History suggests (c) followed by a combination of (a) and (b). Which will not be fun for anyone.

Blogger Anchorman November 02, 2017 8:23 AM  

As Scott Adams noted, Trump will enter the "We don't like him, but he's competent" stage.

Scott Adams has been remarkably good at charting Trump, given his fairly non-political background/career.

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 8:26 AM  

Vox: The USA has to get rid of ... d) post-1965 immigrants and their descendants if it is going to survive intact.

@5 (10%) ought to be enough to regain a manageable aura of civility.
@8 option d ... I am fairly confident in saying it won't happen.
@12 as much as could be expected.

Wow, y'all self-defeat much? (Y'all wearin' bowties this morning or somethin'?)

Our Supreme Dark Lord is absolutely right! And I'm hoping more and more *actual* Americans are starting to see it. (I'm also working to HELP them see it!)

If we don't shoot for the stars -- or at least for a very-large-majority White country -- we won't get near enough!

What army EVER wins with a motto of: "well, maybe we can do okay, sort-of, I hope?"

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2017 8:32 AM  

@Avalanche

"Funny thing is, I grew up ON Long Island, around guys like him. I kept trying to reassure friends and neighbors -- no, he's GREAT! Solid, honorable, probably trustworthy! I KNOW guys like him! He'll be really good!! Guess hes' an acquired taste for NON-Long Islanders... to ME, he's *normal* and pretty great besides!"

Well, that explains a LOT about you....

Anonymous CarpeOro November 02, 2017 8:33 AM  

Often in life you get the tone you deserve. After years of of patiently explaining to people like RD that the current policies were unworkable, he should fully expect a bit less civility in the umpteenth repetition to him of that fact. The old majority Americans were the most generous and patient of all peoples in the world. With the erosion of their primacy has come an erosion of that patience and generosity to other groups in their midst. I'd say we are still more generous and patient than our "fellow countrymen" to other groups (just recall La Raza's slogan. The Tribe has been doing this for a few millennia), but as reciprocation has been slight to negative patience has waned. When no good deed goes unpunished you have to expect the good deeds to cease. With it,expect civility to out groups to cease.

Anonymous DeplorableCodeMonkey November 02, 2017 8:36 AM  

It is amusing how Dreher still has to qualify that he does not approve of the God-Emperor's tone. After all, saving the nation would be so much more palatable if it were done wearing the proper bowtie.

Cuckservatives love, just luurrrrrv to pose as "defenders of civilization," and yet I don't think they'd like a single great man who has ever lead the defense of a civilization from barbarism. They'd find them uncouth and uncivil. They'd have spent half of the Battle of Tours lamenting Charles Martel's rules of engagement instead of actually fighting the Moors.

Anonymous EH November 02, 2017 8:37 AM  

@6 The detailed public confession by Donna Brazile in her article on Politco is a bombshell. Zerohedge just reprinted it. Everybody knew, at least the outlines, but the details are still shocking and they come from a source that can't be refuted. Hillary completely controlled the DNC's finances, taking all DNC funds raised for herself and doling money back to the broke and indebted DNC, having her creature Debbie Wasserman-Schultz running the DNC as her personal fief, without any consultation with its officers, thus rigging the primary against Bernie Sanders.

She still clings to the story that documentation of this was released by Russian hackers, which has been disproven by the timestamps on the files which show a transfer rate so high that it had to be someone on the local network, if not the very computer holding the data, so not a hack but an inside job, almost certainly by Seth Rich, the staffer who was killed on the streets of D.C. without having his wallet or cellphone stolen. But the main line of attack open against Hillary is that she was in charge of looting the DNC and conducting conspiracies to commit wire fraud and money laundering in connection with that underlying crime. It's the sort of case the RICO laws were designed for, and unless the fix is in at DOJ, Hillary is finally in a jam she may not escape.

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 8:41 AM  

@17 "get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?"

When broodmares in labor come streaming across OUR border to (as BGKB phrases it) "squat out" a "new American citizen!" Then yes 100% it must be done away with AND all the false Americans 'made' by this insanity must be stripped of "citizenship" they do not deserve! And sent home. YES HOME!!

Why it is OUR nation, our people, our families, have to pick up the 'tab' (literally and figuratively) for THIEVES and their broods? Surely you can recognize that those parents are STEALING citizenship? They have no rights whatsosever to it -- in fact should be punished for stealing it!

This "fake" citizen then gets to keep its ILLEGAL parents, and bring in its sister and brothers and cousins and aunts -- and grannies and grandads who get Social Security (!!) from AMERICAN's tax dollars -- and Medicare, and housing supplements, and WE pay for schooling the fake citizen! (And, oh yeah, they ALSO bring in every damned member of their TOWN -- pretending they, too, are relatives!

"DACA illegals" are NOT "Dreamers, they're thieves! They are STEALING from OUR children (well, and our young folks up to age 30!!) and our oldsters who HAVE contributed (not enough, granted to stay funded) to SS and Medicare all their lives!


They get deported to their HOMES! The places from which their thieving parents came to steal from us! And yes, is that scary and unpleasant for these "raised in America" "kids." (Sorry, no 30-yr-old DACA illegal is a KID!) But they can blame their PARENTS, NOT the victim(s) theior parents -- and they- have been stealing from fro THIRTY YEARS!

And, hey look! Those DACA illegals HAVE had a pretty great American education, and food provided BY Americans so they're not nutritionally stunted, and if they have 'accepted' the American way of viewing the world (and there's DAMNED LITTLE EVIDENCE of that!) then going home (and taking their whole damned families) and working on THEIR "civilization" (i.e., to MAKE it into a civilization) is exactly what they need to do.

NOT our monkeys, NOT our circus! Time for them to go home! We've "given" them WAY more than they are "entitled to" (they are "entitled to" a bus ride back after their stolen American hospital birthing! That's all!) as thieves and invaders and squatters (in both meanings of that word).

Stop wasting your "compassion" on THIEVES and start pointing it towards the AMERICANS who have been harmed in a myriad of ways by these THIEVES!

Anonymous CC November 02, 2017 8:45 AM  

It is amusing how Dreher still has to qualify that he does not approve of the God-Emperor's tone.

Yeah, when a commentator has to play tone chaperone, it really shows they have nothing left. It's funnier when they actually use the word itself to criticise.

A few years ago prior to the last UK election, the BBC had one of their political wags interview all the candidates from the major parties. Naturally, he was toughest on Nigel Farage interrupting him twice as much as the other candidates (basically every sentence) and at one point criticised him on his tone, which is kind of absurd as Farage is always polite and endlessly patient. It made the interview equal parts infuriating and entertaining. The funniest part was this gem where Davies tried to justify the beauty of multiculturalism by referencing how it had been so beautifully depicted in the recent children's movie Paddington Bear(!) Policy discussion in the current year.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi9liybamyo

(For any readers here who don't know Paddington Bear is, he'd be a bit like Winnie the Pooh)

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 8:46 AM  

@21 "Av: Funny thing is, I grew up ON Long Island, around guys like him. ...
Dirk: Well, that explains a LOT about you...."

Doesn't it, though? I sometime say ... ruefully .. that I was raised jewish in all but race and religion! (Have to fight it all the time: I doubt one ever gets "done" unbrainwashing! The big stuff is WAY easier than the small stuff! Yah don't even SEE that small stuff go by, except with great attention and difficulty!)

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 8:51 AM  

Starbuck wrote:get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?



In virtually every case, their parents' country of citizenship recognizes the child as a citizen as well. So deport them there. Why is this difficult for you?

Essentially every other country in the world does this. You can't move to Argentina, Angola or Afghanistan, have a kid and the kid is a "citizen" where they're born, no matter how long kid lives there, even if the kid can't speak English.

They. Don't. Care.

Why, pray tell, should Americans?

Blogger Phillip George November 02, 2017 8:54 AM  

Islam's antichrist. One doesn't require a second argument.

1.Put American interests first
2. Define "in God We Trust"

1 + 2 means he ends up ruling the world anyway, simply by filling the existing void.

It is every bit as certain as gravity.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 8:57 AM  

It's sooooooo easy for (usually white) Americans to want to give away the Farm to anyone who shows up with puppy-dog-eyes, clutching his (or worse, her) hankie.

Why? Because everyone thinks money grows on trees. They think "wow, I have it all...why can't everyone have it all, too?"

What a bunch of clueless morons. They think "prosperity" is permanent. And why not? For nearly 40 years people learned that they don't have to WORK to MAKE anything, they can just whip out the charge card...(or have Congressmen, who enjoyed a seemingly unlimited credit line, whip it out for them [pun intended.])

No wonder we're surrounded by perpetual children. Such people disgust me.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 02, 2017 9:00 AM  

E Deploribus Unum wrote:Is the process called uncucking? Decucking?

My Sig has a de-cocking lever. Do some cucks have a de-cucking lever? People aren't pistols, so probably not. Today's cuck is probably tomorrow's unstable, eventually traitorous ally.

Still, there seems to be a difference between a true cuck and someone who just didn't know that winning was possible. There are a great many people who grumbled un-PC things under their breath and voted cuck, because their cuck spiritual and political leaders told them it was the only way. The sheep are not the bad shepards who led them to destruction.

Blogger Gapeseed November 02, 2017 9:03 AM  

Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States. Aside from ending the U.S. birth tactic by foreign mothers, it gives the added bonus of the state enshrining and giving intrinsic value to the act of conception, eroding abortionist strategy to the contrary.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 02, 2017 9:05 AM  

Starbuck wrote:Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?

Not our problem. They don't have to go home, but they can't stay here.

Alternatively, forcing their homelands to take them might, finally, be a pro-American use of the fine big military machine we have impoverished ourselves for.

Anonymous Longtime Lurker November 02, 2017 9:08 AM  

What Tank said.

Blogger Doom November 02, 2017 9:10 AM  

Avalanche,

That wasn't defeat. What is being suggested is that people up to three gens removed from their home countries be repatriated. That k isn't even possible without war against probably every nation in which that would be attempted. Allowing citizens to do it themselves is how many nations do it, off the books, quiet, discrete. If you aren't willing to get your hands dirty why do you expect others to do it for you? I believe we are the government anyway. The system is supposed to do it for us. See what happens when people let others do it blindly? Do it yourself, snowflake.

Anonymous JAG November 02, 2017 9:16 AM  

http://sandrarose.com/2017/10/music-festival-fires-photographer-refused-singers-request-white-people-move-back-official-apologizes-photographers-overt-racism/

The music festival organizer apologized for the "overt racism" of the White photographer.

That's a hat trick. The SJW lied, doubled down, and projected all in one shot.

They have to go back, even the ones in Canada.

Blogger Desdichado November 02, 2017 9:31 AM  

Starbuck wrote:get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?
You have to go back. I don't care where. Given the unsubtle undeclared war that Mexico has been waging against us by sending tens of millions into our country to reap federal benefits and take American jobs and send the money back home, I'm in favor of dumping them in Tijuana and letting Mexico sort it out. Cheaper for us, worse for Mexico and the Fake Americans both. Second option would be to ship them all to Israel. Let the Jews deal with the exact same headaches that they've been trying to foist on us.

But honestly, I don't care that much. As long as they're not here.

Anonymous MaskettaMan November 02, 2017 9:40 AM  

Decimation of fake Americans would prompt most of them to rediscover that other citizenship they've been holding in their back pocket. I think there wouldn't be much of a fight at all if things got serious.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 02, 2017 9:43 AM  

Starbuck wrote:get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?

You would not be stripping citizenship from Americans, only squatters.

Citizenship should first be based on the citizenship of the father. Your father is Cuban? You are Cuban, no matter if you are born here or in Canada.

If the father is unknown, then your citizenship is based upon your mother's citizenship.

Under these standards, neither Obama or Cruz would be citizens.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 9:52 AM  

16. Starbuck November 02, 2017 8:21 AM
get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier?



you are clearly not up to speed on this issue.

original Law instituted by the will of 'We The People' is contained in the 1790 Naturalization Act, which defines which children are to be considered 'Natural Born' in opposition to those who must be Naturalized ( that is to say, Immigrate ).

you also need to examine the concepts of 'Jus Soli' and 'Jus Sanguinius'. most nations require a combination of these two concepts. certainly the current USA implementation is one of the most lenient formulations that has ever existed.

you know how you've heard multiple stories about American women marrying muslim men, moving to Iran ( or wherever ) and then trying to divorce / being divorced and not being able to get custody of their children?

not an issue under the 1790 Law. under the 1790 Law, their children were never American citizens in the first place.

and they are the retarded dumbshits who married a muslim and moved to a Turd world hellhole.

because Muh Diversity.

Blogger Student in Blue November 02, 2017 9:55 AM  

@4. Looking Glass
All humans are exquisitely attuned to their first-order self-interest.

Well, they're exquisitely attuned until they start doing super suicidal things.

Blogger Al November 02, 2017 9:56 AM  

I'm afraid much more will be required before Rod and other cuckservatives really wake up. Think about it. Their supreme fantasy consists of being eternally gang-raped by Paco, Jamal, and Abdul. This is their ultimate form of virtue-signaling. I'm afraid it'll take the reification of this feculent fantasy before they come to their senses. But by then it'll be too late. Sad!

Blogger YIH November 02, 2017 9:57 AM  

Sherwood family wrote:Yep. While I do not believe Dreher will ever be Alt-Right, he might get close enough to be a useful bridge for other normies to cross over on.
Don't get your hopes up: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/age-of-reformation/
Sometimes it seems to me that identity politics and the collapse of the political center are pushing us all towards a prison-gang mentality, in the sense that you may not want to join up with the gangsters of your own tribe (white, black, Latino), but you do to protect yourself from the attacks of the other tribes.

Do I want to align with the Trump Republicans? Most assuredly I do not. Yet rising militancy on the left — campuses being the vanguard — and the inability of liberal centrists to stand up to it, frightens white, male, heterosexual, religiously conservative me for the future. I look at the Democratic Party and see a party that regards people like me as American kulaks, as the class enemy to be crushed for the sake of justice and the final defeat of “white supremacy.”

And he's more charitable towards Trump than to anything considered Alt-Right/White Civil Rights.

Blogger pyrrhus November 02, 2017 10:05 AM  

Meanwhile, back in Cuckland in DC, Paul Ryan tells Hannity "that's not who we are..."

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 10:08 AM  

@31 Gapespeed, Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States.

You still don't get it, do you? (facepalm.)

Are you too stupid to notice that most of the Sudden Jihadi Syndrome clowns are 2nd gen? Have you STILL not bought a clue that people whose ANCESTORS created alien cultures will reproduce those alien cultures EVERYWHERE they go, for generations, because it's genetic?

People's behavior, culture, eye-color, etc. are ALL a product of genetics. Short of diluting the HELL out of their ancestry via out-crossing for several GENERATIONS (yeah, like for a century or two), where a baby is conceived has absolutely no effect whatsoever on his/her beliefs, or what he/she will do once surrounded by enough fellow-travelers.

You can take that crap and RAM it.

Blogger Longtime Lurker November 02, 2017 10:08 AM  

@1: "It's an evolution. Lots of people (including moi) started off with "I don't really like the way this guy comports himself, but ..."

I still don't like they way he comports himself, but at least he gets it on immigration. That and the fact that he truly fights.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 02, 2017 10:09 AM  

Starbuck wrote:get rid of a) birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this. Is this the only qualifier? Because if it is then anyone born in the usa could have their citizenship stripped and then deported to where exactly?

Not just anyone, only those purely descended from illegal aliens. And back to one of their ancestral homelands, one of the last places that their ancestors actually had democratically legit citizenship in, not Dictatorship Of The Blackrobes B.S. "citizenship".

And if none of those homelands will have them for the same reason they have to go back, because all that cant about how beneficial they are to their nation of residence is a lie, then drop them off in some failed state that can't stop us. Pick one at random, or heck be generous enough to let them choose the failed state and also whether they want a parachute or not.

Blogger Al November 02, 2017 10:10 AM  

@8, in Eisenhower's glorious 1954 Operation Wetback (his greatest achievement), 10 times as many greasers voluntarily fled the country as were forcibly ejected. What it takes is getting radically, ruthlessly serious, thus causing the invaders to voluntarily flee in terror.

Unfortunately, it seems that the mortal plague ravaging the West--namely, the pathological complex of WEOSX (white ethnomasochist oikophobia and suicidal xenophilia)--which is far worse than the Black Death of the 14th century, is now beyond the point of reversal.

For example, I'm in the Whitopia of the Idaho panhandle. Yet the local paper is infected with white ethnomasochists of the avowedly liberal variety. There are also plenty of white ethnomasochists of the unconsciously liberal (i.e., cuckservative) variety. We're talking about Idaho here. If the plague of WEOSX has reached even here, then nowhere is safe. Safer? Yes. But not safe.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 02, 2017 10:12 AM  

Trump knows how to handle women and males that think like women.

While you intellectuals tailgate every word these harpies spew Trump puts them in their places, like a man should.

Blogger Demonic Professor El November 02, 2017 10:15 AM  

Overall, this is why I'm optimistic, if bearish. Some people just need the brick of reality thrown on them and they're ours.

Blogger Desdichado November 02, 2017 10:23 AM  

YIH wrote:Sherwood family wrote:Yep. While I do not believe Dreher will ever be Alt-Right, he might get close enough to be a useful bridge for other normies to cross over on.

Don't get your hopes up:

I think that's an example of exactly what he meant, though. He's never going to alt-right. He'll complain to his dying breath that "why can't this all have been nicer?" And yet, even HE sees the necessity. If Dreher can say this through his virtue-signaling tears, then his readers can too.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III November 02, 2017 10:25 AM  

>Which is why the "It's Okay To Be White" that's cropping up on college campuses is one hell of a brutal rhetorical attack.

This has potential to be /pol/s best operation, yet. Just went live Tuesday night. Was already in colleges from Texas to Canada, yesterday. 20+ newspaper reports. 100s of tweets. Multiple reddit threads with 100s to 1000s of replies. Next couple days will tell a lot.


>The detailed public confession by Donna Brazile in her article on Politco is a bombshell. Zerohedge just reprinted it.

So much this. Aside from the possible RICO/money laundering stuff, I thought the most interesting thing is that the DNC was $24 million in the hole in 2015, before Hillary commandeered it. Is it just Obama being THAT lazy? Breakdown of the entire organizational structure within the DNC (because of being taking over by people of color)??

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 10:27 AM  

46. Al November 02, 2017 10:10 AM
We're talking about Idaho here. If the plague of WEOSX has reached even here, then nowhere is safe.


uh, yeah.

you're sandwiched between Missoula ( beautiful, but still a hippy commie college town ) and the People's Republics of Washington and Oregon. oh, and Canuckistan. and Nevada.

Wyoming and Utah are the only really 'conservative' ( wait, wut? Wyoming was the first state with female suffrage? so historically they're Liberal and Progressive? damnit! ) ... okay, CURRENTLY 'conservative' states near you.

Blogger CornCod November 02, 2017 10:30 AM  

Speaking of Rod Dreher, why is a magazine (The American Conservative)founded by both Taki and Pat Buchanan, so awfully anti-Trump and Liberal?
What happened?

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 02, 2017 10:43 AM  

Today, Hannity is supposedly disclosing something news worthy about Obama.

Friendship with WikiLeaks paying off?

Got plenty popcorn.

Anonymous Grayman November 02, 2017 10:44 AM  

Of course the God-Emperor is right. The USA has to get rid of a) birthright citizenship, b) chain migration, c) dual nationality, and d) post-1965 immigrants and their descendants if it is going to survive intact.

Which is why it probably won't. But it's not over until it is actually over.


As painful as the coming purge and breakup of the US will be, its the best option for whites. It will cull the masses of the weak and defective, those without the will to dominate.
From that hardened seed can the west rise in a new form.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 10:50 AM  

50. Whitey Whiteman III November 02, 2017 10:25 AM
Aside from the possible RICO/money laundering stuff, I thought the most interesting thing is that the DNC was $24 million in the hole in 2015, before Hillary commandeered it. Is it just Obama being THAT lazy?



why don't you try comparing and contrasting a ((( party leader ))) purposely indebting the DNC with the way that nations all through history get suckered into adventuring on ((( debt financing ))) and then finding out that they're no longer so sovereign as they had thought they were?


you might also want to compare and contrast Hillary to Stalin. de jure, the Communist Party Secretary was not intended to be a particularly powerful position. only ... the Secretary controlled personnel appointments.

and thus, de facto, took complete control of the entire State. because he made sure that every person appointed was personally loyal to him.

hrm.


“What?” I screamed. “I am an officer of the party and they’ve been telling us everything is fine and they were raising money with no problems.
...
If I didn’t know about this, I assumed that none of the other officers knew about it, either.
...
“No! That can’t be true!” I said. “The party cannot take out a loan without the unanimous agreement of all of the officers.” ”



thus indicating that NOT A SINGLE DNC officer was doing their due diligence.



The party chair usually shrinks the staff between presidential election campaigns, but Debbie had chosen not to do that. She had stuck lots of consultants on the DNC payroll, and Obama’s consultants were being financed by the DNC, too.


it's truly egregious that Brazile is failing to note ((( consultants ))) here.


Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff.


as i pointed out earlier, it's the Stalin tactic. Hillary wasn't SUPPOSED to be this powerful. but when every single person in the org is required to be a Friend-of-Hill in order to get or keep their job?

duh.

and it's also obvious that whatever gets reported about Obama and Hillary hating each other ( and they well may have great inter personnel distate ), they've clearly been working hand in glove ever since Obama appointed ( or was directed to appoint ) Hillary SecState.

Obama permitted the DNC to crash it's finances / funding explicitly because that was the Clinton Global Initiative ( this is one of the major purposes of the slush fund ) plan all along.

Anonymous Just another commenter November 02, 2017 10:50 AM  

@23 - not sure why you think Donna B is telling the truth now. Oh, sure, she's throwing out some facts we'd recognize, but why? What's the story she's trying to shape, other than the obvious of cutting her dies to a sinking ship?

Anonymous BBGKB November 02, 2017 10:52 AM  

birthright citizenship? I personally don't agree with this...(as BGKB phrases it) "squat out" a "new American citizen!"

There is the "jurisdiction thereof" part of the 14th amendment that those sneaking across the border at night don't comply with. The author of the 14th did several newspaper articles explaining who would and wouldn't be affected, but a jew judge in the 80s changed it.

birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States

At the bare min it would have to be parents allowed in the US legally.

. The funniest part was this gem where Davies tried to justify the beauty of multiculturalism by referencing how it had been so beautifully depicted in the recent children's movie Paddington Bear

Have you ever meet a Paki as smart (((as seen on TV)))?

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 10:54 AM  

@50 The zerohedge column on Hillary's scamming the Dem nomination reconfirms what happens when blacks are put in charge of anything. DWS larded the DNC payroll with cronies & buddies, same as every Black (and often Irish, and Mestizo) mayor of any town larger than 200. [Hillary's excuse is that she's just a deranged, sociopathic criminal.]

Blacks are considered lousy credit risks because as a group they don't pay back loans. The corollary to this is, if you offer low-trust peoples "credit," they'll abuse it (and rob you, duh!)

Today's relative comfort in America is a testament to how long it takes to erode the tower of success created by Anglo-Saxons. Our ancestors conquered a continent; their village-idiot descendants started giving it away by 1862.

Anonymous Red Cabbage November 02, 2017 10:56 AM  

Slightly OT: City Data lets slip a bit of truth about those "best cities to live" indexes. http://www.city-data.com/blog/418-striking-balance-quality-life-social-capital/

"According this index, the places with the highest social capital scores are mostly Midwestern cities where “quality of life” scores based on nightlife and natural amenities are lowest. These cities mostly have small, relatively homogenous populations. By contrast, many of the smaller, ethnically diverse cities in Texas, Arizona and California, as well as many cities in the smaller cities in the Southeast are at the bottom of the list in terms of social capital. Joining them near the bottom are large auto-dependent cities like Phoenix, Las Vegas, Los Angeles and Houston."

Blogger James Dixon November 02, 2017 10:56 AM  

> Which is why the "It's Okay To Be White" that's cropping up on college campuses is one hell of a brutal rhetorical attack.

It's a stroke of pure genius. The leftists can't argue with it without making their agenda obvious, and yet they can't stop themselves. I love it.

Anonymous Grayman November 02, 2017 11:02 AM  

@55 Bob

why don't you try comparing and contrasting a ((( party leader ))) purposely indebting the DNC with the way that nations all through history get suckered into adventuring on ((( debt financing ))) and then finding out that they're no longer so sovereign as they had thought they were?

This would be a good read ont hat subject:

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man
Confessions of an Economic Hit Man is a partly autobiographical book written by John Perkins published in 2004. It provides Perkins' account of his career with engineering consulting firm Chas. T. Main in Boston

Anonymous Grayman November 02, 2017 11:07 AM  

@58 DC

LOL, and as the DNC / left continue to purge their white members the effects of "diversity will only be magnified while their overall effectiveness plummets.

Thats great news for the whites.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III November 02, 2017 11:08 AM  

>not sure why you think Donna B is telling the truth now.

She got nominated by Perez for the list of 75 potentials for the DNC delgates. And, maybe it is part of the Dems/DNC abandoning Hillary for failing (and/or further abandoning whitey)?

Anonymous patrick kelly November 02, 2017 11:10 AM  

Heh, I started wishing long ago for any politician who would have the ballz to tell the press or other politi-critters to just fuck off. I'd vote for them no matter what the party or ideology. But that could never happen, not in PC Amerka'.

Then along came Trump.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 02, 2017 11:16 AM  

@56
@23 - not sure why you think Donna B is telling the truth now. Oh, sure, she's throwing out some facts we'd recognize, but why? What's the story she's trying to shape, other than the obvious of cutting her dies to a sinking ship?

Donna "no white boys!" Brazille wants her people to own the party. To own the party, the Queen has to be toppled.

Anonymous Grayman November 02, 2017 11:18 AM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:@56

@23 - not sure why you think Donna B is telling the truth now. Oh, sure, she's throwing out some facts we'd recognize, but why? What's the story she's trying to shape, other than the obvious of cutting her dies to a sinking ship?

Donna "no white boys!" Brazille wants her people to own the party. To own the party, the Queen has to be toppled.


Her being truthful is irrelevant in this case. She is breaking ranks with the clinton cabal and that makes them vulnerable in yet another area, it also makes it easier to isolate and attack weak elements.

Blogger Chris Mallory November 02, 2017 11:26 AM  

dc.sunsets wrote:reconfirms what happens when blacks are put in charge of anything. DWS larded the DNC payroll with cronies & buddies, same as every Black (and often Irish, and Mestizo)

DWS isn't black. Her name echos.

Anonymous JAG November 02, 2017 11:38 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> Which is why the "It's Okay To Be White" that's cropping up on college campuses is one hell of a brutal rhetorical attack.

It's a stroke of pure genius. The leftists can't argue with it without making their agenda obvious, and yet they can't stop themselves. I love it.


I am in awe of it. Brilliant! Genius! Masterstroke! It is a rhetorical kill shot, the best I think I've ever seen to date. It worked perfectly, too. The left took the bait immediately. Many red pills being taken now.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 11:45 AM  

56. Just another commenter November 02, 2017 10:50 AM
not sure why you think Donna B is telling the truth now.


well, yes, Brazile is the one who was secretly prepping Hillary with debate questions ahead of the debate.

so it's not like she really has any qualms about any of this.

but even if everything she says is a lie, look at the SHAPE of what she's describing.

this isn't merely malfeasance, sloth or incompetence, these are CRIMINAL acts, through and through.

and this is what she's ADMITTING too.

this is the baseline. everything from here is downhill. we'll know everything is getting ready to get blown wide open when they admit Seth Rich was murdered.



67. Chris Mallory November 02, 2017 11:26 AM
DWS isn't black. Her name echos.



but Obama was the nominal head of the party and ((( DWS ))) served at his pleasure.

nominally.

course, then you remember that the night Bin Laden died, Obama was the only Cabinet member without sufficient rank to rate his own chair at the table, much less sit directly before a computer.

seriously, imagine the like situation with Trump;
EVEN IF
you assume that Trump had been out galivanting on the golf course while the op was going on
AS SOON AS
Trump arrived at the conference room somebody would have been booted off the table.

i'm unsure as to whether Trump would choose the largest screen or the table head, but you know damn well that Trump would have had a seat and, likely, would have had people scrambling to offer him their seat.


still cracks me up that a melonburglar gets elected President of the United States and STILL can't figure out how to get a seat at the table.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 02, 2017 11:50 AM  

@68 JAG
@60 James Dixon

It's from the Chans, but it clearly comes on the heel of Trump's NFL destruction. It's a clear high-ground maneuver play using the SJW's logic cycle and their hypocrisy against them. (I tried to type "hypocrazy" just now, which might actually be more correct.) And this one is going to work for years.

"It's okay to be Christian"
"It's okay to be Straight"
"It's okay to be an American"
"It's okay to love your country"

They're really Americana Platitudes, but actually saying it to an SJW will make them go ballistic. Good. May their heads explode en mass.

As to Donna Brazile's piece, the most brutal play from our side is to start openly questioning why there are any Whites in the leadership of the DNC. Blacks are the most loyal Democratic constituency. Why aren't they in charge? Why do White Dems put down Blacks so much?

The Democrats only work so long as it's a bunch of Whites & Jews running a coalition of minority groups. Forcing the masters to have to work with much less capable "leaders" would destroy them. Which is why it should be encouraged.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2017 11:55 AM  

"Decimation of fake Americans would prompt most of them to rediscover that other citizenship they've been holding in their back pocket. I think there wouldn't be much of a fight at all if things got serious."


And then selection teams at the airport, followed by 10-years working on a chain gang.

Blogger Danby November 02, 2017 12:00 PM  

Gapeseed wrote:Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States.

Not Magic Dirt, like a cheap motel, America should have Magic Beds.

Anonymous Gapeseed November 02, 2017 12:02 PM  

@dc - you are demonstrably more an unhinged ass than I am stupid.

While you study the lines of your palm, my compromise strategy could split abortion rights activists from immigration rights activists, a useful outcome. In particular, this strategy might be enough for the Church to reconfigure it’s own strategy, which would be a calamity for the Open Borders crowd.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 02, 2017 12:08 PM  

Gapeseed
Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States.


LOL! How do you expect ICE to verify location of conception?

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 12:12 PM  

@73 gapespeed, you are demonstrably more delusional than I am unhinged.

Do you really think your brilliant strategy is going to matter?

I'm not promoting a strategy, I'm describing reality. Reality is that when the move to the Right gains speed, compromise won't be in the vocabulary.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can look at today and think a little tweak here or there and things will get better. You might as well buy an additional fire extinguisher in preparation for being targeted for incendiary bombing (think Dresden or Tokyo.)

On second thought, you must be new around here.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 02, 2017 12:16 PM  

@74 No, no, as long as Mustafa can prove his wife Asha was in the USA at least 9 months prior to popping out their little New American and future Jihadi, sign that kid up for West Point!

Gapemouth has identified how to make Roe-v-Waders luv the Alt-Right. Far be it from me to question her brilliance.

Blogger Dirk Manly November 02, 2017 12:19 PM  

@31

"Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States."

That is the most REEEEEEEETarded thing I have read in quite some time. That even tops most of the SJW idiocy.

I don't care where the parent's have sex at... if the parents are both foreign nationals, here on anything other than Permanent Resident status (i.e. they intend to actually be a part of our society, and have gone to the trouble of filing all the paperwork, paying the associated fees, turned in their police records, etc.) then THE KID AIN'T A U.S. CITIZEN, he's a citizen of WHATEVER COUNTRY HIS PARENTS ARE CITIZENS OF.

Why do you insist on "well, can't we have just a few SPECKS of dog feces in the ice cream?"

NO... F-ing no. NOT EVEN SPECKS of dog feces in the ice cream

NO FREAKING DOG FECES IN THE ICE CREAM!!!!

Why is this so difficult for morons like you to understand?

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 12:34 PM  

77. Dirk Manly November 02, 2017 12:19 PM
Why is this so difficult for morons like you to understand?



why do you think that putting dog feces in the ice cream wasn't his goal all along?

Blogger Danby November 02, 2017 12:39 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Why is this so difficult for morons like you to understand?
She, or someone she loves, has to go back.

Blogger DonReynolds November 02, 2017 1:03 PM  

Imagine a house on fire. Not just a grease fire in a skillet in the kitchen, but one where the flames have already engulfed a couple of the rooms.

You are the Fire Chief and you arrive on the first pumper. The Firefighters are scrambling for equipment, connecting the hoses, and the Search Team is almost to the front door....when out comes a woman (probably a Republican US Senator) screaming about how she needs more time to remove her drapes from the living room....and her fur coats....and her rugs BEFORE anyone starts to spray water in the house.

"The water will ruin my things! Give me time to remove them first, before you wet the place down!"

"Lady, this fire is not going to wait for you."

"And my parakeet and my puppy and my six cats are still in the house somewhere. Rescue them first, before you start spraying the hoses! (My kids are in the back room with their grandmother....but we can rescue them later.)"

"Lady, why haven't you got everyone out of the house already!"

"I was afraid, if I did that, you would not give me more time."

"Lady, there is no more time to give."

Anonymous BBGKB November 02, 2017 1:04 PM  

"It's Okay To Be White"... It is a rhetorical kill shot, the best I think I've ever seen to date.

I like "WHITE LIVES MATTER" better myself as it can be paired with:

But not to the
(((FAKE_AMERICANS))))
Who own
(((FAKE-NEWS))))

LOL! How do you expect ICE to verify location of conception?

Paco throws his wife over the fence, then screws here thru the fence that the border patrol monitors. Then they just need to stay in the US 9 months.


why do you think that putting dog feces in the ice cream wasn't his goal all along?

(((Slate argues Spacey))) wasn't a pedo because 14 is a year over 13, current year indeed.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/11/01/how_calling_kevin_spacey_a_pedophile_hurts_the_gay_community.html

Blogger Lovekraft November 02, 2017 1:07 PM  

That's all and well, but who do we send the bill to?

Blogger DonReynolds November 02, 2017 1:37 PM  

What Donald Trump means to me (and a surprising number of others) is who gets to keep the Federal government when this country breaks apart.

Obviously, when regions of states decide to quit the Federal Union, those who leave do not take the Federal Union with them. They can, like the Confederacy, adopt a nearly identical Constitution, but the Federal government itself will either withdraw or be forced out of those regions of states that leave.

Donald Trump means that the states that remain a part of the Federal Union will inherit the Federal government (and all that involves). Imagine how much happier this country would be, if it were reduced to only those states that voted for Donald Trump.

If Jefferson Davis had been elected president of the United States in 1860, there would still have been regions of states that quit the Federal Union, but probably not a civil war. Jefferson Davis would have been less interested in forcing the North to remain part of the Federal Union. (They probably would have put their capital back in Philadelphia, out of historical sentiment.)

Blogger Desdichado November 02, 2017 1:53 PM  

It's OK to be white is a failure, because nobody will ever hear about it except the people who did it in the first place. Preaching to the (small) choir is not rhetorical outreach.

Blogger Al November 02, 2017 1:55 PM  

22. DeplorableCodeMonkey,

Your comment has now been incorporated into a fabulous Youtube video:

Bowtied Bloviators: Cuckservatives

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 02, 2017 2:01 PM  

Doom wrote:
Can those who are just beginning to notice be at all trusted? In my personal dealings I avoid them. I have seen them revert on a dime, stabbing new "allies" right in the back. Damned dangerous.

True. Jason Kessler was a 'new convert' who led lots of folks into a trap set for them in Charlottesville. The really crazy thing is that there are still some decent Southern rightists - Hunter Wallace at OD for example - who insist on defending him out of a misguided sense of loyalty. Kessler of one of two things:

1. A mole from Soros, et al; or
2. An actual new convert.

New converts are not eligible for leadership of anything - ever.

Anonymous DissidentRight November 02, 2017 2:16 PM  

While you study the lines of your palm, my compromise strategy could split abortion rights activists from immigration rights activists

Compromise? There is no point in even THINKING about compromise until your enemies come begging.

Blogger VFM #7634 November 02, 2017 2:24 PM  

I don't regret voting for Trump. Not for a second.

The Diversity Lottery has to go. It has been directly responsible for opening new waves of chain migration from countries we wouldn't have otherwise had to worry about, including huge, less-than-desirable sources like Nigeria, Pakistan, and Bangladesh.

Anonymous JAG November 02, 2017 3:53 PM  

Desdichado wrote:It's OK to be white is a failure, because nobody will ever hear about it except the people who did it in the first place. Preaching to the (small) choir is not rhetorical outreach.

You should pay attention to current events. That sound you hear out your window are the REEEEEEEES from the snowflakes. The cops were even called in to investigate in Boston FFS. This has forced the left into a Kobayashi Maru test that they cannot win.

Blogger VD November 02, 2017 3:57 PM  

While you study the lines of your palm, my compromise strategy could split abortion rights activists from immigration rights activists, a useful outcome.

It's not a strategy, it's a stupid and ignorant idea. Stop cucking.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 4:56 PM  

83. DonReynolds November 02, 2017 1:37 PM
If Jefferson Davis had been elected president of the United States in 1860


Stephen Douglas.

Jeff Davis received votes at the Democrat Party convention but refused a nomination as one of the contenders.


73. Gapeseed November 02, 2017 12:02 PM
In particular, this strategy might be enough for the Church to reconfigure it’s own strategy, which would be a calamity for the Open Borders crowd.



all the Church needs in order to "reconfigure it’s ... strategy" is Repent and cling to the teachings of the Scripture.

pandering to the World is not how the Church succeeds.

stop trying to pander.

Blogger Al November 02, 2017 5:04 PM  

((( bob kek mando ))) is exactly right. As we actual Catholics (now known as "traditional" Catholics) know all too well because of the catastrophe of the Judas Council Revolution (aka, the Second Vatican Council, 1962-65) and its wretched "opening to the world," this is a prescription for disaster. Thus today we have the horrific Pope Francis the Groovy.

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 5:30 PM  

@31 "Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States."

Oh great -- don't the Americans living by the border have ENOUGH to deal with, without a line-up on Mexies having SEX on their land!?

How 'bout we just send them ALL BACK! NOT our people, not our problem!

Blogger MsArchangel November 02, 2017 5:36 PM  

@33 "That wasn't defeat. What is being suggested is that people up to three gens removed from their home countries be repatriated."

?? Don't know what you're referring to. WHAT wasn't defeat?

And if you mean birth-right "citizenship":

Why is it a problem to send all three gens back -- THE anchor baby, its ILLEGAL parents, and its ILLEGAL grandparents? (Or, since many of them are above age 20, the anchor baby's OWN children and its parents?! Take the WHOLE chain and send it back. And yes, I'm expecting to help do it; not rely on only-others to do it. How do YOU think we're going to rescue this country?

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 5:38 PM  

@35 "I'm in favor of dumping them in Tijuana and letting Mexico sort it out."

Tijuana is way too close! Put them down at the southern mexican border -- mexico can use them to keep the REST of South and Central America from OUR country! Right now, Mexico is HELPING them get here. Once we finally get the wall and STOP the influx -- mexico will need all those American-educated mexicans to guard THEIR BORDER!

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 5:39 PM  

@37 "Under these standards, neither Obama or Cruz would be citizens."

You left out the Kenyan obama.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 02, 2017 5:42 PM  

96. Avalanche November 02, 2017 5:39 PM
You left out the Kenyan obama.


ha HAH, you missed that whole part about Frank Marshall Davis being Obama's real father.

Anonymous Avalanche November 02, 2017 6:07 PM  

@97 "You left out the Kenyan obama.
ha HAH, you missed that whole part about Frank Marshall Davis being Obama's real father."

Now THERE Is a quandary -- which one does he choose? Give up the 'foreign / african' 'quals' or the actual American father? hmmmmmm.

Anonymous FP November 02, 2017 6:25 PM  

"LOL! How do you expect ICE to verify location of conception?"

Judge, a dated YouPorn video upload of the conception confirmed said defendants "getting busy in a Burger King bathroom" just over the border in El Paso on the date in question.

Anonymous FP November 02, 2017 6:38 PM  

Gapeseed wrote:Maybe there is a compromise to be had - birthright citizenship for children conceived in and born in the United States. Aside from ending the U.S. birth tactic by foreign mothers, it gives the added bonus of the state enshrining and giving intrinsic value to the act of conception, eroding abortionist strategy to the contrary.

For a more serious answer Gape, look into Michigan and Virginia's attempts to be sneaky or cheeky regarding abortion laws over the past decade or so. VA's plan to force ultrasounds was a bit better than MI's plan to make it a serious crime to influence a woman from wanting to give birth in damn near anyway thinkable. Oh, your wife cheated on you, got pregnant by another man and you want a divorce? That might influence her to get an abortion. Even worse, make it a requirement to stay in the marriage? Thats a criminal felony son.

Reality is, you're not going to convince these people with little quarter measures, that might influence people's minds. GenX and younger are already living through the nightmares of the 60's free love world and turning from it. The fight over Roe v Wade ended in 1973. The GOP et. al has been losing that battle politically for decades now, just using it to raise money.

Blogger Al November 02, 2017 10:26 PM  

@95 Yes, as in the glorious Operation Wetback of 1954, any Mexes booted in an Operation Wetback II must be shipped deep into Mexico.

Blogger Darrencardinal November 03, 2017 12:55 AM  

have no respect for "tone police" types. They always sound to me like whining pussies.
Getting policy right is the important thing.

Anonymous Ghost Who Walks November 03, 2017 10:55 AM  

Birthright citizenship. Anyone born in this land by American parents is an *American*. By foreign parents, maybe not. By foreign, illegal parents, certainly not. The alt-right, though, would do well to observe our native form of law, which did not know -- Did.Not.Even.Imgine the phony idea of "U.S." citizens, created by and beholden to, and under the jurisdiction of a so-called central, federal government that has been substituted for what we had here before the so-called civil war (that was never declared and for which there is no evidence of a peace treaty).

Fix your ball joints and you won't need to fret about the wheels falling off.

Note too, the damage wrought by the 17th amendment, as in the states are no longer represented. Look it up if you've not thought about it lately.

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