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Tuesday, November 14, 2017

Let it go to Hell

As I've told my children, Let It Go is an expression of pure Crowleyian evil; it doesn't even rise to the less evil version of W. Somerset Maugham, as there is no due regard for civic mores. Dalrock and his readers have noticed too:
Anonymous Reader notes that Let it go is well loved by modern Christians:

I have not yet encountered a single churchgoing person in my social circle who has a problem with “Frozen” the movie or with “Let it go” the song. Not one. That includes a couple of families that are part of leadership. Pointing out the “no rules” part is like describing the color “purple” to someone who is blind. They literally can’t see anything wrong – perhaps because “It’s DISNEY” or something. I’ve gotten blank stares from people over 40 but also parents under 30. It’s bizarre.

I don’t think the messenger makes the message palatable.  It is the message itself that is loved.  Women and girls learning how to throw off all rules and inhibition is core to our new morality.  The song isn’t loved as a guilty pleasure;  it is loved as a bold moral declaration.  Stop trying to be a good girl and learn to worship yourself is a moral exhortation.  As Vox pointed out in The devil that is Disney:

Disney is run by literal satanists preaching Alastair Crowley’s “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” to children. They are one of the primary engine’s of the West’s degeneracy and decline. It is not an accident that everything they touch, in every industry, turns into morally radioactive slime.

Children, including Christian children, understand this best of all.  They know what their parents worship, what their parents see as righteous (even if their parents fall short of living the ideal).  They know that Frozen and Let It Go is a morality tale that teaches them about our most sacred beliefs.
Perhaps the concept is a little easier to grasp when it isn't a pretty cartoon character warbling, but Leo Moracchioli doing what is a more aesthetically honest version of the song. The only thing that would really improve upon the song is a video full of tattooed strippers on poles doing drugs that ends with snow falling upon a grave with a woman's name and dates indicating that she died in her 20s.


Leo is now my favorite band. His covers are awesome. I love his version of Africa. And the six - SIX! - guitar solos in his Californication are simply epic. All six are great and fit perfectly within the song somehow, but Scallon's solo on the eight-string is my favorite just for how he delivers it, expressionless, on an escalator. It reminded me a little of 808 State playing First Avenue with their backs to the crowd for the entire show. That transcended the very concept of cool.

One thing I will say for YouTube: it has totally transformed the way young guitarists learn to play their instruments. It is ASTONISHING how good they are.

UPDATE: Wow. That is all. Just wow.

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183 Comments:

Anonymous Ryan ATL November 14, 2017 7:58 AM  

Vox, can we get a post on Azzurri fail?

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 8:01 AM  

I go on epic anti-disney rants fairly frequently at church. I point out that little bitch from Frozen destroyed the whole world in a act of pure selfish idiocy.

When i point it out the people all agree that she was bad and the moral is bad. But they go right on liking it.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 14, 2017 8:02 AM  

It's nice knowing I'm not the only one who detests that movie and song.
The death if Disney and their wickedness can't come soon enough.

Anonymous TS November 14, 2017 8:06 AM  

Glad I didn't get that Frozen bedroom set for my daughter.

Blogger Sean Carnegie November 14, 2017 8:06 AM  

that ends with snow falling upon a grave with a woman's name and dates indicating that she died in her 20s

Or snow being snorted off the tattooed, wall-hitting woman in her late 20s.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 14, 2017 8:10 AM  

Well, she does become the evil destroyer of the city who only heals when she repents.

It is a surprise that her satanic anthem immediately precedes her downfall, isolation and loss?

After all, she isn't the hero of the movie. The heroes are her compassionate brethren who align against her while striving for her repentance. She's the captive Maguffin with the change of heart. Disney's most satanic thing in that movie was a weak opportunist villain when a blackheart would have worked. The second most satanic thing was giving the potentially juicy villain role to a white-culture appropriator.

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 8:13 AM  

Speaking of Crowley etc...I’m expecting to get some flak for this, but Nick Cole, who I think is one of the best contemporary writers out there, (so don’t get me wrong) is using some very suspect symbolism in the cover art he recently revealed for his latest Star Wars not Star Wars novel. Pyramid with eye symbols to be specific.

Anonymous Patron November 14, 2017 8:13 AM  

Nate wrote:When i point it out the people all agree that she was bad and the moral is bad. But they go right on liking it.

This, very definitely so. There's a lesson or two about human behaviour right here.

Anonymous JAG November 14, 2017 8:15 AM  

Crowley most likely picked up his "Do what thou wilt..." philosophy from the Hellfire Club in Europe.

Also, 4chan has the picks showing the pedophile occult symbol of the triangle in a triangle plastered all over Disney.

Plus, search for images of the Donald Duck kiddie ride, and then fight the urge to gather pitchforks and torches.

Their movies are propaganda. They buy up Marvel, and turn it into propaganda. ESPN gets turned into ESJWPN on their watch. There are rumors they would like to buy the WWE. Expect that to turn to ratings poison propaganda too should they succeed.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 14, 2017 8:18 AM  

Post-hoc logical fallacy saturates our daily lives because we are generally "if-then" logic machines constantly seeking exploitable connections.

Pop culture doesn't lead people. People (the herd, the mass mind, the mob) determines what is popular. Under the socionomic hypothesis, social mood leads, and assigns the character of what is popular.

The rise of the secular nation-state, the industrial revolution, the march of leftism (and its goal of immanentizing the eschaton), capped by the last 50 years of civilizational drift into bat guano crazy seas, all describe Western man's long descent into folly and madness.

Nothing sets up failure like success, and the West's stacking of unprecedented successes these last 500 years yielded people who have zero idea from where the miracles that surround them arose.

"No Rules" is perhaps the perfect encapsulation of this profound ignorance. It is the purest inversion of Nature as it exists, and signals the full embrace of the Jungian archetype of "Flight," the feeling of casting off all Earthly limits, reaching out your arms and ascending into the sky.

There's never been a better time to reject the mass mind and strap ourselves in to our rule-bound reality.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 8:19 AM  

After all, she isn't the hero of the movie.

Don't be naive. If she wasn't the hero of the movie, they wouldn't be making her the focus of the merchandise. That song is the fucking anthem of female evil.

Blogger Harambe November 14, 2017 8:22 AM  

If I've learned anything from Disney movies, it's that parents are stupid and that you should run away with the first pretty person you meet. The scruffier the better. Oh, and religion is stupid.

There are a couple exceptions, e.g. Beauty & The Beast and The Lion King.

Blogger CM November 14, 2017 8:25 AM  

I'm torn on this. The story Disney put front and center was shit. Frozen is the worst anthem for a girl that is actually possible.

There are a lot of feminist clichés concerning parents, patriarchy, and love woven in and mocked (parents suppressing Elsa, the trolls song).

My daughter likes pretty dresses and pretty things, so she likes Disney Princesses. Her favorites are the oldies (Aurora and Snow White). When we do watch a new one, I try to steer the story. For Frozen, Anna is the hero, not Elsa.

And I made sure that was front and center. Anna's unqualified love for her sister and her sacrifice are Christian concepts that can be embraced without liking the movie or the song.

/*End of my entirely questionable defense of Frozen*/

VD wrote:After all, she isn't the hero of the movie.

Don't be naive. If she wasn't the hero of the movie, they wouldn't be making her the focus of the merchandise. That song is the fucking anthem of female evil.


Elsa was definitely intended to be the hero.

Anna is a better hero, but not the one Disney wanted.

Blogger Andrew November 14, 2017 8:27 AM  

I always thought the movie and song were about her lesbianism, as opposed to satanic rebellion, but potayto-potahto I guess.

Blogger liberranter November 14, 2017 8:27 AM  

The only thing that would really improve upon the song is a video full of tattooed strippers on poles doing drugs that ends with snow falling upon a grave with a woman's name and dates indicating that she died in her 20s.

In other words, the ultimate MGTOW wet dream.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 8:28 AM  

And I made sure that was front and center. Anna's unqualified love for her sister and her sacrifice are Christian concepts that can be embraced without liking the movie or the song.

Stop rationalizing it. The sugar is there to make the medicine go down.

If I've learned anything from Disney movies, it's that parents are stupid and that you should run away with the first pretty person you meet. The scruffier the better. Oh, and religion is stupid.

Bingo.

Blogger CM November 14, 2017 8:29 AM  

Harambe wrote:If I've learned anything from Disney movies, it's that parents are stupid and that you should run away with the first pretty person you meet. The scruffier the better. Oh, and religion is stupid.

There are a couple exceptions, e.g. Beauty & The Beast and The Lion King.


The exceptions are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White.

The Lion King's mantra is "Hakuna Matata". We might like the "Bare Necessities," but Hakuna Matata is a lot like Let it Go in just awful messaging.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club November 14, 2017 8:29 AM  

Antinomianism has a long history, and now Disney, et al., are carrying the idea to the logical end of not even needing God's grace as justification, just do what you feel.

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 8:38 AM  

chick on the africa video can seriously sing too.

Anonymous McGuffin November 14, 2017 8:39 AM  

"Don't be naive. If she wasn't the hero of the movie, they wouldn't be making her the focus of the merchandise."

Darth Vader...

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 8:40 AM  

chick on the africa video can seriously sing too.

Yeah, I would not be at all surprised if she broke out one way or another.

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 8:42 AM  

"After all, she isn't the hero of the movie."

Really? Tell me about all the little girls that want to dress up like Anna.

Anonymous JAG November 14, 2017 8:47 AM  

Yeah, I like Leo's metal version of Africa too. Hannah is a great singer. Rabea and Leo can both shred those guitars.

Blogger Lazarus November 14, 2017 8:51 AM  

Howard Stone wrote:Nick Cole, who I think is one of the best contemporary writers out there, (so don’t get me wrong) is using some very suspect symbolism in the cover art he recently revealed for his latest Star Wars not Star Wars novel. Pyramid with eye symbols to be specific.

Maybe he is trying to attract dollar bills.

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 8:53 AM  

"Yeah, I would not be at all surprised if she broke out one way or another."

Also she is adorable in that peasant girl puppy kind of way.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 8:54 AM  

Nick Cole, who I think is one of the best contemporary writers out there, (so don’t get me wrong) is using some very suspect symbolism in the cover art he recently revealed

Nick does not do his own covers. I very much doubt he is as up on that sort of thing as many here are.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 8:57 AM  

The Africa cover isn't bad, but the play out jam at the end is definitely worth a couple of listens. https://youtu.be/MH9FyLsfDzw?t=4m6s From that time stamp.

As for Frozen, pure poison for the soul tastes quite sweet, be careful never to think otherwise. That's how temptation works: you'd never do something they actually loathed by normal choice.

Blogger dc.sunsets November 14, 2017 8:59 AM  

@10 continued:

The goal of socionomics is to discern the rules that bound human social behavior, but the difficulty is that it's like a worker bee attempting to dispassionately assess hive operations without first seeing them through the eyes of a bee. How do we see general rules that apply to drives we ourselves cannot escape? It's like we're trying to reason out what "being wet" means to a fish, when we're fish and know nothing else.

From my view, there is no "fixing" any of this. The human collective (and our Western Civ/NW European Ancestor subset of it) is rule-bound. Those rules are just as inviolable as is gravity. They produce the sine-wave boom-bust/peace-war/plenitude-hardship that is the tapestry of human history. Positing an exit from this rule-bound condition is like suggesting a tree (or a child) can grow to geosynchronous orbit.

We already LIVE in a society that "LET IT GO," and recognizes no rules. That ship already sailed. $20 trillion in Treasury IOU's, $225 trillion in USD-denominated debt and the 10 year T-note yielding 2.39% today is all we needed to know.

When my kids were learning to drive I told them that I wore a seatbelt all the time because to me it was tantamount to strapping 3000 lbs of armor onto my back. To me, I can't change the future. It's already baked in. All I can do is metaphorically strap myself into the rules as I understand them as a means of better deciding how to act as "what will be, will be" rolls out, sometimes slowly, sometimes (perhaps) quite rapidly.

Anonymous Ain November 14, 2017 9:00 AM  

"Disney is run by literal satanists preaching Alastair Crowley’s “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” to children. They are one of the primary engine’s of the West’s degeneracy and decline. It is not an accident that everything they touch, in every industry, turns into morally radioactive slime."

They are the first company I can recall to begin celebrating homosexuality. It was my first hint that something was "off" about Disney.

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 9:01 AM  

VD, well whoever the artist is, they’re very good; one of the most visually appealing covers I’ve seen.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 9:02 AM  

On the rise of young musicians because of YouTube, it's something I've noticed as well. You can pretty much get a professional education from freely posted tutorials. It's one thing to be a 13 year old, kinda awkward kid that goes and learns from a few books and just lots of hours being bad. Now? You can do some searching and learn the basics without too much complication.

It gives the self-learner so much freedom to learn from the extremely talented, because if there's anything the Internet has taught me, if it's valuable, someone will give it away for free online.

Anonymous JAG November 14, 2017 9:03 AM  

Speaking of satanic music, I recently checked out the song Square Hammer by Ghost. I've been around too long as I saw every friggin reference in their.

1) The video is 1930s Art Deco to the max New York City with a big premiere that seems inspired by the real life big premiere of King Kong.

2) Papa Emeritus is a mascot concept most likely inspired by Eddie of Iron Maiden with the corpse paint influence of Misfits.

3) The inverted Celtic Cross symbol with the segment missing forms a letter "G" which is masonic for a variety of thing depending upon the source. it could mean "Grand Architect of the Universe", "God", "Geometry", and other things as well as the first letter of the the band name "Ghost".

4) The crossed hammer and coffin with the inverted Celtic Cross represents the union of opposites so common in the occult. The hammer represents the industrial age, and science, while the coffin represents the supposed old order of religion.

5) The name of the song in the beginning of the video is arranged to look like the Square and Compass symbol of Freemasonry, again a symbol depicting the union of opposites. The black and white checkerboard floor tiling in Masonic lodges depicts the same concept.

6) The lyrics are clearly Luciferian occultism of the Scottish Rite variety of Freemasonry spelled out by Albert Pike, and later by Manly P. Hall.

7) Papa Emeritus' movements in the video are mostly inspired by the body language style of Charlie Chaplin.

His arm flourishes at the end of the video while superimposed on the Moon (magic circle) are poses of some of the grades of Crowley's O.T.O. One in particular is called "the Trident", and is symbolic of the pitchforck of the Devil which itself is based upon the fork of Hades, the Greek equivalent of the Devil.

8) The number 6 is embedded in various ways in both the video and the lyrics.

The band is clearly satanic, but uses the biggest lie of all for cover - they claim to be atheist. I don't buy it for one second. They are just following the example set by their god, and must try and trick the world into believing they don't exist. It's all just fun and games.

Blogger Happy Housewife November 14, 2017 9:03 AM  

Elsa was originally the villain of the source fairy tale, and was intended to be the villain of the movie, too. But the producers just liked "Let It Go" too much to give it to a villain; that's their story, at any rate. Doesn't seem like they changed much else, given that Elsa literally endangers everyone under her rule with a single tantrum, runs away from her problems, and leaves everyone else to deal with it.

And making Anna the hero is a nice thought, but she is an emotionally abused, isolated, naïve waif of a girl who literally falls in love with the first man she meets. Her whole life revolves around her self-centered sister and she spends the movie trying to get her attention, up to and including sacrificing her own life. That's not really a princess I want my daughter to look up to.

Anonymous Kat November 14, 2017 9:03 AM  

I don't consider myself particularly naive, but I remember the Dobson Disney Boycott and honestly thought it was still a mainstay among evangelicals that you just straight-up avoided Disney or kept to a few "classics" like the 101 Dalmations and such. You certainly didn't go to the parks and buys tons of plastic crap for your kids.

Then the live action Beauty and the Beast came out, and my FB feed was absolutely full of people talking about how innocuous it all was. It really made me question the entire homeschooling movement. And, no, they don't care. I pointed out to several people that having gay pride week and then inviting James Earl Jones to read the Christmas story was about as blatant an FU to Christianity as I've seen, but they all just wanted to agree to disagree.

Blogger Lazarus November 14, 2017 9:08 AM  

Ryan ATL wrote:Vox, can we get a post on Azzurri fail?

troppo presto, troppo presto.

apocalittico.

Blogger JohnG November 14, 2017 9:09 AM  

"The only thing that would really improve upon the song is a video full of tattooed strippers on poles doing drugs that ends with snow falling upon a grave with a woman's name and dates indicating that she died in her 20s."

Good idea, you could do the video "smack my b*tch up" style, already have the rock sound track... probably cost next to nothing to make.

Anonymous SugarPi November 14, 2017 9:15 AM  

If some Christians refuse to see anything wrong with celebrating Halloween, how can you expect them to discern the evil that comes in pretty packages? It's getting harder to be patient with the babes in Christ, when so many of them may be moles.

Blogger pyrrhus November 14, 2017 9:20 AM  

Great group, I'll be checking out their other stuff...

Blogger pyrrhus November 14, 2017 9:20 AM  

If Walt Disney were alive today, he'd burn the entire company to the ground....

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 9:21 AM  

As far as Anna being the hero, my theory was that a sequel would reveal her to have powers of fire to contrast her sister, but I’m thinking there probably won’t be a sequel because, even though it promotes the Crowleian philosophy, it’s still too white for our current pc atmosphere nowadays, unless they do an Aladdin crossover or something like that.

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 9:22 AM  

"If some Christians refuse to see anything wrong with celebrating Halloween"

Oh shut up. Halloween is a Christian holiday. its the eve of all saints. The fact that you don't know that is your problem.

Blogger pyrrhus November 14, 2017 9:23 AM  

'Dumbo' was and is totally outstanding in every way, along with many of the other early animated films. We mourn for that Disney...

Anonymous Athor Pel November 14, 2017 9:25 AM  

"75. Blogger GraceIronwood November 14, 2017 7:22 AM
Why is everyone epecting (nay, welcoming) the apocalypse?
"


Same reason Jonah ran away rather than go to Ninevah, same reason he sat on a nearby hill expecting/wanting to see Ninevah destroyed even after he preached repentance to the whole city. He was hoping the Assyrians wouldn't repent. He hated their guts because they were arrogant murderers and thieves that made the lives of the surrounding nations a living hell. But God knew they were capable of repentance.

Our self appointed masters today want to destroy America. They say it, they act on it, they've been doing it for decades. They see themselves as virtuous. A self-righteous person is incapable of repentance because in his mind there is nothing to repent from. We've only now become convinced these globalists that look like Americans aren't really Americans. And they want us dead.

A social and economic reset has a chance to burn off the gangrene. It will definately solve the immigrant problem and get rid of most if not all of the virtue signalling government pork.

But that's not the whole picture. Nor is it very becoming of a christian.

Real christians don't fear earthly hardship or earthly death. It's what we were promised. Hard times bring humility. Humility makes it much easier for people to repent. Repentance brings people to God. Hard times grow the kingdom of God.

America still has a bad case of American Exceptionalism. Many Americans think we're special. We're not. We need a big dose of humility.

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Blogger Desdichado November 14, 2017 9:26 AM  

CM wrote:The exceptions are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White.

The Lion King's mantra is "Hakuna Matata". We might like the "Bare Necessities," but Hakuna Matata is a lot like Let it Go in just awful messaging.

Hakuna Matata isn't the mantra of The Lion King. Quite the opposite; when whatever that lion cub's name was was going through his prodigal son phase, that was the mantra that he quoted. When he repented and returned to do his duty, he foreswore the mantra of Hakuna Matata.

Not to defend Disney, but don't try to use an example that's actually completely backwards.

Blogger Silly but True November 14, 2017 9:27 AM  

Moracchioli is great. Another really good performer in same vein is 331Erock (Youtube).

If you find yourself searching Youtube for Sonic Metal or Thundercats Metal, then you are not alone.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 9:28 AM  

@42 pyrrhus

Dumbo is one of the best anti-alcohol & anti-drug promotions ever.

Blogger Austin Ballast November 14, 2017 9:32 AM  

Athor Pel,

Jonah did not preach repentance. His message was only one of judgment, which is what he wanted.

He knew God however and the Ninevites repented "on spec" and got temporary deliverance.

That is what annoyed Jonah. He wanted Ninevah to be judged and was annoyed that God allowed them to repent.

Anonymous mm November 14, 2017 9:33 AM  

Regarding YouTube and musicians, it IS ridiculous how transformative the platform has been.

As a long time drummer, I've made several break-throughs in my playing recently after seemingly plateauing for decades; all thanks to the endless videos and tutorials posted... all viewed for free.

I greatly envy the resources now freely available to young drummers everywhere, and the resulting emergent talent is, indeed, mind-blowing.

Blogger Amy November 14, 2017 9:38 AM  

Leo might be the find of the year for me. This blog enriches my life on so many levels. Thanks Vox.

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 9:39 AM  

"As a long time drummer, I've made several break-throughs in my playing recently after seemingly plateauing for decades; all thanks to the endless videos and tutorials posted... all viewed for free."

I think its just the result of being exposed to more and more. In the old days people only heard a handful...maybe few dozen drummers who were largely all doing the same thing.

Youtube had blown the lid off all of that though. Creatively you hear so much more. You hear different guys doing things you've never tried... so you try those things... and you give it your own twist... and then someone hears what you did... and it inspires them the same way.

OpenID ar10308 November 14, 2017 9:40 AM  

That's a really good cover. Leo puts out a high production value video for sure. The girl they got for the vocals has a great voice.

The other "Let It Go" cover that occupies my mind is this one by 331EROCK. It's less production value, but more shredding guitar and his solos are off the chain: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usPoug7NcZo

Anonymous Shut up rabbit November 14, 2017 9:40 AM  

Ghost are larping. "Are you on the square? Are you on the level?" Are overtly masonic greetings and the lyrics are clearly about sneaking into a demon's tomb to steal arcane powers. No hidden, occult messages, it's all out there in in plain sight (even for those without eyes to see).

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 9:41 AM  

But fundamentally drumming changed with Neil Peart when he stopped playing along with the Bass and started playing along with the guitars. Guys that grew up listening to Rush never learned to play the simplistic 2 and 4 stuff... the world was bigger for them. It really started to show in the 90s.. and its only exploded more since.

Anonymous FD80215 November 14, 2017 9:47 AM  

1. First time posting.
2. Disney movies are leftist propaganda, nothing more, nothing less.
3. I am happy you plugged Leo Moracchioli here. Dude is talented and is trying to make an honest living.
4. I am a member of the so-called Deplorable's in "Fly Over Country." Been following here for a couple of years now, and will continue to do so. Keep up the excellent work.

Blogger Kentucky Packrat November 14, 2017 9:52 AM  

When Frozen first came out, I told my wife "Disney's finally made their first lesbian couple." She of course told me to shut up and quit yelling in WalMart....

I haven't watched the movie much, and my daughter (now 18) is violently opposed to "Let It Be", so I am rather fortunate.

Anonymous Breeder November 14, 2017 9:57 AM  

Leo earned my subscription with his cover of Johnny B. Goode. It is the best cover of any song I've ever heard. He has the rare ability to take a song that is already great and make it better with his own cover. The only other examples of this that come to mind are Ghoti Book's version of I Love Rock n' Roll and Hinder's take on Thunderstruck.

Anonymous SugarPi November 14, 2017 10:00 AM  

Oh Nate, you're so precious ;-)

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 10:03 AM  

Ghost is CLEARLY parody. Quote:

The group's vocalist portrays the band's mascot character, a Satanic priest known as Papa Emeritus.[3] There have been four different characters taking the name Papa Emeritus, with Papa Emeritus I-III each being younger than the last. The first welcomed the second Papa Emeritus on December 12, 2012, in Linköping. On June 3, 2015, the second Papa Emeritus welcomed his younger brother as the new Papa Emeritus in Linköping after being "fired" due to not performing his duty in overthrowing governments and churches. On September 30, 2017 during a show in Gothenburg, Papa Emeritus III was dragged off stage by two men, who then escorted his successor, Papa Emeritus 0, to the stage. Papa Emeritus 0 is portrayed as being significantly older than the previous Papas, as he made use of a walker and oxygen tank whilst walking on stage.

Anonymous CPEG November 14, 2017 10:04 AM  

At some point, my parents were given a couple recent Disney movies. Maybe 15 years ago. One was about a single-mom and single-dad family, best friends, who see some "perfect family" contest and decide to enter. Hijinks ensue, as they try their best from letting the contest runners know that they are lying through their teeth.

The other was about a tomboy with no friends who befriends a Mexican immigrant worker kid and they learn to reapect each other despite... Bigotry. She eventually sticks up for him in a playground fight. But then his whole family gets deported for visa overstay and they never see each other again.

The second struck me as too saccharine, the first Satanic. Luckily I had already been moralized.

Blogger Jack Burroughs November 14, 2017 10:05 AM  

"Disney is run by literal satanists preaching Alastair Crowley’s “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” to children. They are one of the primary engine’s of the West’s degeneracy and decline. "

It's probably true that Disney is run by literal satanists, and the song Let It Go is obviously about casting off all rules and doing whatever the hell you want to do.

In fairness to old Crowley, though, he actually wasn't a Satanist. He did many terrible things, but worshiping Satan wasn't one of them.

And his maxim, "do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law," is not at all a call to egotism or a self-indulgent casting off of rules and restraints.

Crowley was talking about finding your "True Will," and being rigorously obedient to its claims upon you. The True Will was, for him, the will of your transcendental Higher Self--your soul's purpose in this incarnation, essentially. And the True Will could be be dramatically at odds with the the desires, the passions, the will, of your conscious ego.

It is a highly demanding and perilous discipline to follow the dictates of one's True Will. Quite the opposite, really, of the what Let It Go is teaching.

I understand people's revulsion at Crowley; I share that revulsion myself. But there is a widespread and growing notion that the child-raping, Luciferian elite are Crowleyites. It isn't so.

They are far worse than Crowley, and their crimes and atrocities far exceed anything Crowley himself ever did.

They are in a different moral and metaphysical category altogether.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 10:07 AM  

I'm not always a fan of his sliding style, but I find it astonishing that Taylor Swift or some other massive pop star hasn't snapped up Erock and had him doing guitars for them the way that Michael Jackson would go out and hire Eddie van Halen, Steve Stevens, and Slash. He's the next level technical guy; his solos on Leo's Danger Zone are great.

Blogger tz November 14, 2017 10:08 AM  

"No right or wrong, no rules for me" - I noticed it immediately upon first hearing.

But the hypocrisy of hearers is present in the earlier words:
"couldn't keep it in, Heaven knows I tried.
Don't let them in, don't let them see
Be the good girl you have to be
Well now they know...".

So what are you hiding and instead of proclaiming the truth, you are "being the good girl you have to be"?

As in SJWs always project.

You mean people wouldn't like you if you slipped up and were honest about your opinion of, say, black people?

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 10:22 AM  

@Jack, in the Christian perspective Crowlian philosophy is Satanism, whether overt or covert, I do hear what you are saying though, and to a secular world, Crowley’s message could be perceived as positive, but it essentially reduces to people attempting to put themselves in the place of God and to complete their own destinies outside of God’s plan for their lives, which in Christian terms is rebellion, enter Satan the first rebel.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 14, 2017 10:23 AM  

@9

To be fair about a lot of those things, especially Marvel, they kind of always WERE propaganda... especially Marvel, and especially Marvel as leftie propaganda since the 70's.

Blogger Gordon November 14, 2017 10:27 AM  

Good cover? Check out Unorganized Hancock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvkeWL5BpAA

Recorded on a video camera in an unheated upstairs room in the family manse in Rumford, ME. The older brother kept trying to get a band together. All of his band mates kept flaking out or wanted to play parts of Metallica songs. So his 9-year old brother said, hey, it's okay. I'll play with you. Turns out he can play, and can pick up the drum part of a song in no time.

Yeah, I'm the Gordon who suggested this song.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 10:28 AM  

In fairness to old Crowley, though, he actually wasn't a Satanist. He did many terrible things, but worshiping Satan wasn't one of them.

Prioritizing your own will always ends in serving Satan. Because it is quite literally following his lead.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 10:28 AM  

On the find in "UPDATE: Wow. That is all. Just wow.".

Yeah. Just...wow.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown November 14, 2017 10:35 AM  

I took the kids to see Frozen back in 2013, and walked out wondering how they were able to make a film that white. The people of northern Europe looked like the people of northern Europe. Olaf the Snowman wasn't voiced by Chris Rock, the trolls didn't rap, and Elsa didn't end up marrying KANG Charming.

OK, now I get it, the protagonist is a Crowleyan Satanist. In hindsight, the non-pozzed wrapping is even more insidious.

Blogger jaericho November 14, 2017 10:38 AM  

@68 Ditto. That solo at 3:30 was great.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass November 14, 2017 10:39 AM  

Vox,

You clever devil! Not only is the point made but now I'm hooked on this man's channel. I fear that work productivity will crash and burn today.

Anonymous JAG November 14, 2017 10:40 AM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:@9

To be fair about a lot of those things, especially Marvel, they kind of always WERE propaganda... especially Marvel, and especially Marvel as leftie propaganda since the 70's.


It wasn't thoroughly pozzed, though. There were artists and writers that produced great stories. Yes, there has always been some leftist bent, but there was enough true talent that it was a viable product.

Today, it is pure leftist extremist propaganda from top to bottom. There is no attempt even made at quality of story or art. There is no value in it, and the sales reflect that.

Blogger VD November 14, 2017 10:42 AM  

Today, it is pure leftist extremist propaganda from top to bottom.

I talked to an old school comics guy recently. He said that there is not ONE single high-level person at Marvel or DC who is not a hard SJW now. No moderates, no conservatives. In other words, they haven't even BEGUN to double down.

Anonymous Dorkus Malorcus November 14, 2017 10:44 AM  

@McGuffin

Thanks for making the point, or are you one of those lame-os who want to plunge galaxies into anarchy so a girl can wear her pretty crown again?

Blogger Redpill Angel November 14, 2017 10:45 AM  

I've personally seen two little girls under age 5 begin misbehaving after watching "Lilo and Stitch" over and over. Screaming, kicking, saying no, hitting while saying they were being Lilo. Had to take the DVD away from them and throw it in the garbage.

Blogger Gunnar von Cowtown November 14, 2017 10:48 AM  

Leo's a total badass, but this version by French deathcore band BETRAYING THE MARTYRS is way more on point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtkGluLhnGU

Blogger Jack Burroughs November 14, 2017 10:52 AM  

"Prioritizing your own will always ends in serving Satan. Because it is quite literally following his lead."

The True Will is not "your own will" in the egoistic sense. It's a transcendental imperative that one receives via mystical revelation through knowledge and conversation with one's "Holy Guardian Angel." Very often, the True Will painfully overrides the desires of the egoistic, personal will.


For Crowley, the True Will is the Will of your Higher Self, your Metaphysical Self, or your soul. Not the will of your conscious, everyday ego.

In other words, the True Will was basically Crowley's version of subordinating your own will to the Will of God, or to God's purpose for you.

This teaching has obvious metaphysical dangers: how can you know that you have actually discerned your True Will? How can you be sure that it isn't a demonic deception?

The surprising answer proposed by Crowley himself was that the *true* True Will must be expressible in a spirit of Love: "Love is the law, love under will."

Anyway, whatever his dangers, Crowley was not teaching people to prioritize their own will, as conventionally understood. That, to him, was the False Will.

He was, in fact, teaching them to subordinate their own will to a metaphysical Will that was higher than their own.




Anonymous The Devil November 14, 2017 10:53 AM  

"Disney is run by literal satanists preaching Alastair Crowley’s “do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law” to children. They are one of the primary engine’s of the West’s degeneracy and decline. It is not an accident that everything they touch, in every industry, turns into morally radioactive slime."

Because nothing kills Western Civ like a talking race car.

Anonymous JAG November 14, 2017 10:54 AM  

Hey Jack Burroughs -

Here's the deal with Crowley. He had multiple personality disorder. Some were out and out evil, and satanic. At least one was homosexual, and others hetero. Some were buffoons bent on self destruction. One was an adventurous athlete. Another a chess player.

Still another was a scholar who was quite intelligent, and managed to break a satanic kayfabe of sorts in the intro to the Goetia. The spirits and demons of the occult are portions of the human mind. The whole ball of wax is worship of the self. Even the spirits are subject to your imagination. You will be like the most high. You will possess the seething energies of Lucifer. It is all satanic, and leads to personal destruction, and insanity.

I look around at it all, and I begin to despair at times that Crowley's dream of replacing Christianity with Crowleyanity is working. The people at Disney calling the shots are certainly doing their part.

We live in a world of exponentially increasing insanity. It quite frankly scares the hell out of me. I'm not much of a prepper, but I do have a bug out plan should it become necessary.

Anonymous Iacobus November 14, 2017 10:56 AM  

Wasn't "Frozen" based on Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen?" Wasn't the titular character evil? I distinctly recall some Biblical references in the original story too.

I mean, it's obviously not beyond the realm of reason for Disney to completely twist a story demonically these days...

Blogger Giraffe November 14, 2017 10:57 AM  

Yes, love Frog Leap studios. Their cover of Adele is almost something I can listen to. That's a huge improvement.

Blogger Giraffe November 14, 2017 10:58 AM  

This, but the way, is the greatest cover of all time, bar none:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYKLvYGqaC0

Anonymous fop November 14, 2017 10:58 AM  

There is a church in town that plays Lady Gaga and Black Eyed Peas during baptisms. Free McDonald's after Sunday service too.

I hear they just had to move into a bigger building.

Anonymous CPEG November 14, 2017 11:02 AM  

'Wasn't "Frozen" based on Hans Christian Andersen's "The Snow Queen?" Wasn't the titular character evil? I distinctly recall some Biblical references in the original story too.'

There is no more than a very, very, very, very loose connection. In the original, the Snow Queen was some evil creature who bewitched the protagonist's brother. A shard of glass in his eye and in his heart, as I recall; which made him incapable of seeing or loving properly, I think it took something to do with love to get him to shake off the enslavement; the love of his sister made him break the spell of his own will.

I'll have to go read it again, because it was actually a good story.

Blogger tuberman November 14, 2017 11:02 AM  

I did not see Frozen as I knew it would be ugly in some way. The only thing that surprises me now is that I did not catch on to how bad Disney was/is until around 2002. There were tons of signs going way back. I had issues before that about how they had no respect for parents on the Disney Channel.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 14, 2017 11:03 AM  

Luca Stricagnoli:

https://youtu.be/Ok5d8nXAngw

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 11:08 AM  

"Because nothing kills Western Civ like a talking race car."

note... prior to Disney's purchase Pixar made pro-family pro-community films like Cars and Toy Story and Incredibles.

Blogger Jack Burroughs November 14, 2017 11:13 AM  

Hi JAG.

I don't think Crowley had Multiple Personality Disorder. He was just a highly complex, and often morally confused man. He contained multitudes. But I didn't say was a good guy, or that his teachings aren't dangerous.

I was just clarifying that Crowley was not a "literal Satanist," and that his core teachings, whatever their dangers, are actually a demanding discipline of self-overcoming that has nothing in common with the do-whatever-the-hell-you-want teaching of Let It Go.

I was also pointing out that the literally Luciferian super-elites aren't followers of Crowley. They are far more evil than that.

Beyond these clarifications, I'm not defending Crowley.



Blogger Sillon Bono November 14, 2017 11:15 AM  

Disney aren't satanists, they're much worse, they're proud degenerates, and proud degenerates aren't like satan, they are satan incarnate.

Blogger Jack Burroughs November 14, 2017 11:21 AM  

JAG: one more point. if you want to argue that Crowleysim leads somehow to Luciferianism, that's fine with me. But it's not the "literal Luciferianism" of consciously and purposefully worshiping Lucifer. It would be a seductive and unconscious Luciferianism of having followed an extremely demanding and deceptive spiritual path.

Even if that's ultimately true of Crowley, he wasn't teaching people to give indulgent priority to their own egoistic will. Quite the opposite.

Anonymous The Devil November 14, 2017 11:22 AM  

"note... prior to Disney's purchase Pixar made pro-family pro-community films like Cars and Toy Story and Incredibles..."

Because "Ratatouille" is the kind of film that will destroy the West.

Blogger Jordan179 November 14, 2017 11:22 AM  

Well yes. The song is about her falling into insanity, and the evil of carelessness toward the fate of others, as the over-tight control of her lifetime snaps. She becomes a monster, and is only morally redeemed when she remembers how to love, at the movie's climax.

You mean most people don't GET that?

Blogger OGRE November 14, 2017 11:24 AM  

Since the mid 90s Disney has been blatantly sexualizing our children and preaching the modern 'if it feels good' morality. Where once we had the Little Mermaid and its overtly christian theme (a father sacrificing himself for his child's sins), we have these pretty and saccharine TV shows targeted at tweens being pumped into our homes every night that hint at homosexuality and promiscuity. Look into Dan Schneider whose produced a lot of these programs and see the sexuality inherent in so much of his work. (He was also the fat kid in Head of the Class..he had pedo face even back then.) Theres been rumors circulating about his taste for young girls for years now, and yet hes remained the top producer of TV shows for prepubescent viewers for decades. I won't be the least bit surprised if his name starts getting brought up soon in relation to all the sexual misconduct allegations getting thrown about now.

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 11:33 AM  

@The Devil, It works like rat poison, you take some good nutritious food and add a little bit of poison to it, hardly noticeable at all, until it’s too late and the damage is already done. - the serpent was more subtil than any-.

Anonymous patrick kelly November 14, 2017 11:43 AM  

Love this guy. Great sense of essential tone and vibe in his guitar work.

Blogger tuberman November 14, 2017 11:44 AM  

Do not touch the filth, it spreads people.

Anonymous Iacobus November 14, 2017 11:45 AM  

The Devil wrote:"note... prior to Disney's purchase Pixar made pro-family pro-community films like Cars and Toy Story and Incredibles..."

Because "Ratatouille" is the kind of film that will destroy the West.


I still can't get over the fact that a bunch of rats helped prepare food for people to eat, even if they went through a dishwasher like a shower. That was a total turn-off for me. lol

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 14, 2017 12:00 PM  

Shill of the day calls itself "The Devil", cool.

Blogger Matt Robison November 14, 2017 12:07 PM  

Elsa is not the hero. She leaves the town frozen and when she learns of this, doubles down, injures her sister, and then inadvertently tries to do worse. Fleeing from responsibility leads to all sorts of problems for her and those around her. She is the inciting event for Anna, the main protagonist.

It's similar to Wicked and it's pre-Intermission anthem, Defying Gravity. (Also first sung by Idina Menzel). There, she is the true protagonist. But there, like Frozen, the aspirations contained in the song she sings are subsequently torn down in the 2nd half of the show, and it turns out she was naive.

That being said...its not really a movie for kids, since they won't really grasp those issues. Any idolization of Elsa should be talked about and squashed, unless focused on repentance. It requires some maturity on their part and guidance from their parents. Nothing should be consumed mindlessly.

I agree that the framing can be insidious. In Frozen, it might be intentionally so. But like others have pointed out, there were so many other narrative problems and missteps in the movie that I would almost chalk it up to incompetence. Dangerous incompetence. I'm sorry I let my daughter watch it when she was younger. She won't watch it again until I'm confident we can have a conversation dissecting the message it's trying to say versus what it should be saying.

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable November 14, 2017 12:09 PM  

Nate wrote:"If some Christians refuse to see anything wrong with celebrating Halloween"

Oh shut up. Halloween is a Christian holiday. its the eve of all saints. The fact that you don't know that is your problem.


Nate, not sure if you were being serious or not, but while the Galic Hallowe'en is technically the eve of All Hallows or All Saints day, the actual day has always been the Druid Feast of Samhain against which the Church put All Saints at a MUCH later date. The day has always been about evil rising and trick or treating and paying off the "ghostly" visitors has been a central part of the feast as the dead rose to haunt the living on that night.

So, despite your protestation, acceptance of Halloween is a vivid example of the dying Christian Church.

Anonymous CPEG November 14, 2017 12:13 PM  

'Because "Ratatouille" is the kind of film that will destroy the West.'

FWEEEEEET!
Penalty call, The Devil, for Destroying The Rule. Five-yard penalty.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 12:20 PM  

Nope, this is what the pagans would have you believe, but it's not true. Samhain was actually a Christian harvest festival. The pagans simultaneously celebrated the equinox, which is why the two things became confused.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 12:23 PM  

More information on Christian Samhain

Anonymous The Devil November 14, 2017 12:26 PM  

"I still can't get over the fact that a bunch of rats helped prepare food for people to eat, even if they went through a dishwasher like a shower. That was a total turn-off for me. lol"

It's funny....Cause anthropomorphism!!

Blogger Nate November 14, 2017 12:28 PM  

"Because "Ratatouille" is the kind of film that will destroy the West."

Ratatouille was actually one of the first five movies pixar conceptualized when they sat down to start work. That's why it was more of a throwback.

Blogger Anne November 14, 2017 12:28 PM  

I'm not so sure.
https://saynsumthn.wordpress.com/2014/06/03/walt-disney-produced-family-planning-vid-for-eugenics-founded-population-council/

Anonymous TheTruthIsNeverAcceptable November 14, 2017 12:29 PM  

Markku wrote:Nope, this is what the pagans would have you believe, but it's not true. Samhain was actually a Christian harvest festival. The pagans simultaneously celebrated the equinox, which is why the two things became confused.

Wrong! Do a little actual research. For example (http://www.druidry.org/druid-way/teaching-and-practice/druid-festivals/samhain/deeper-samhain). I have researched this extensively and you are either confused or a wolf in sheep's clothing. I prefer the former. The Druid festival predates Christianity in the area by over 500 years.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 12:31 PM  

Ah, you're one of those.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 12:35 PM  

Yes, the druids had _a_ festival. But it was not Samhain. As I said, they had it for unrelated reasons, namely the equinox. They can claim the rough TIME for themselves, but they can't claim the specific name of Samhain.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat November 14, 2017 12:39 PM  

Fuck me. That cover of Africa was musical art of the highest order.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 12:40 PM  

Which they, of course, ATTEMPT to do, because it makes a simple, easily understood narrative. Too bad for them that it's fake.

Blogger Starboard November 14, 2017 12:47 PM  

The money is in the middle of the story. Most of the Frozen, Cinderella, Beauty and the Beast, and Little Mermaid toys are staged in the middle. The best songs are in the middle,and the excitement builds in the middle. It's all about the feelz. Hakuna Matata and Let It Go may be the set at the protagonists' weakest moments, but their messages are definitely meant to be the catchiest tunes. The Beauty and the Beast spin off Christmas Special was set with the Beast back as the Beast. Scar is always around. The Genie from Aladdin is always there. They only end the stories in the movies because they technically have to. Look at the end of Kubo. I have never seen a weaker "and we're all better people" ending. I'm sure Disney would love to turn everything into an all middle series rather than a stand alone movie. The just desserts and personal growth could be put off forever.

93. Ogre, yes the father sacrifices himself to "save" his daughter, but his sacrifice is not Christian. He's willing to betray his entire kingdom, to hand the entire sea over to Ursula, to condemn everyone to slavery so that his daughter does not have to reap the consequences of her bargain. Millennial much? She is a child, she is called a child, she acts like a child, and everyone works to make sure she still gets what she wants.

Modern culture. Pfft. Read the classics instead.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 12:52 PM  

This Leo guy, along with his peeps, is incredible. Thanks, Vox. I needed a break from Walk Off The Earth, and this is just the thing. F'n WOW at "Africa". Superb.

Anonymous TheTruthIsNeverAcceptable November 14, 2017 12:55 PM  

Dear Mr. Markku. If being "one of those" is being someone who contends for the faith once delivered unto the saints (Jude 1) then that is what I am. You are still wrong, as is that simplistic book you referred to.

Simple etymology should suffice:
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/samhain
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Samhain
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/samhain

The Old Irish word for the festival is samain and that word and its usage predates Christianity by a considerable time period. That is a fact and no re-visionary folderol or tricks by the Father of Lies trying to sneak his pagan syncretism into the Church will change that.

Anonymous Simon in London November 14, 2017 12:56 PM  

It's a good song for the future conqueror of Narnia. :p

Blogger Starboard November 14, 2017 1:14 PM  

@112

And then write and support new and better stuff too.

Anonymous WaterBoy November 14, 2017 1:17 PM  

Markku @109: " They can claim the rough TIME for themselves, but they can't claim the specific name of Samhain."

Infogalactic disagrees with you:

"Samhain is believed to have Celtic pagan origins and there is evidence it has been an important date since ancient times. The Mound of the Hostages, a Neolithic passage tomb at the Hill of Tara, is aligned with the Samhain sunrise."

The Mound of the Hostages:

"The mound is a Neolithic structure, built between 3000 BCE and 2500. It is circular in form, roughly fifteen metres in diameter and three metres high. It is built in the same style as the Newgrange tomb, although on a smaller and less awe-inspiring scale. The structure is dome-shaped with an inset for the entrance and a small doorway, set almost one metre into the side of the monument. The doorway is framed with undecorated standing stones. As is common in passage tombs, this alignment allows for the rising sun to shine down the passageway at only two times of the year, illuminating the chamber within. At this mound, the passage is illuminated on the mornings of Samhain and Imbolc,[1] at the beginning of November and February, respectively."

I suppose it could just be coincidence that the alignment of this pre-Christ structure matches those pagan festival dates, but I think there's a better explanation....

Blogger Doc Rampage November 14, 2017 1:20 PM  

Well, this song is just a teenage-angsty version of the children's song Nobody likes me (guess I'll eat some worms). Neither eating worms nor throwing out all the rules is actually endorsed by the songs, those are just reactions to loneliness and rejection.

However, there *is* something fundamentally wrong with the way a lot of Conservative churches are run. They focus entirely on doctrine, eschatology and similar things, to the exclusion of practical teaching about popular culture and society. The large majority of people need to be taught these things; they don't pick them up on their own.

Blogger OGRE November 14, 2017 1:21 PM  

@112 I'm not going to get roped into defending Disney--the whole company can burn to the ground for all I care if for no other reason than how they perverted copyright law through the years. But I don't think the facts that the father's sacrifice in that instance was both undeserved and would lead to the suffering of others is lost on even young viewers; its a horrifying result of the daughter's sins. If anything it shows that where we might imagine our sins don't hurt anybody, they in fact do have terrible consequences in particular for those who did nothing to deserve such suffering. I can't imagine any young girl wants to be Ariel in that particular moment, watching her father and family and friends all suffer for her selfish wrongdoing.

Anonymous Kat November 14, 2017 1:23 PM  

Iacobus wrote:The Devil wrote:"note... prior to Disney's purchase Pixar made pro-family pro-community films like Cars and Toy Story and Incredibles..."

Because "Ratatouille" is the kind of film that will destroy the West.


I still can't get over the fact that a bunch of rats helped prepare food for people to eat, even if they went through a dishwasher like a shower. That was a total turn-off for me. lol


More "distinctions are bad, so just let everyone do whatever hey want"propaganda. Cute movie, but not something I'd care to show my little ones.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 1:23 PM  

"Origins" is precisely the language you'd expect, if there was a pre-existing equinox celebration but it wasn't called Samhain (which is my argument). The word itself just means "summer's end". (sam + fuin). The research on which the pamphlet I referred to is based on, says that the actual thing being celebrated at Samhain was that all the agricultural work of the year was done.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 1:25 PM  

If being "one of those" is being someone who contends for the faith once delivered unto the saints (Jude 1) then that is what I am.

Someone who defaults to sanctimony in a highly entertaining fashion. Hislop and Two Babylons amirite?

Blogger Dave W. November 14, 2017 1:30 PM  

The first time I saw Rob Scallon on Youtube, it was his cover of Slayer's War Ensemble on a ukelele. Just awesome. https://youtu.be/VznAYy5yL2A

Blogger Starboard November 14, 2017 1:34 PM  

@119 Ogre,

I'm so bad at this internet arguing thing. All I have is, "Oh good, we agree."

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 1:36 PM  

There are two entirely different reasons you might celebrate at the same time, which is the case here.

1) Everybody's agricultural work was done, and storages were full of food. It doesn't require much imagination to come up with "hey, this would be a good time to have a feast"

2) Because the equinox is when the night becomes longer than the day, and in an astrological reasoning, dark forces dominate the good.

The two don't correlate to each other, they individually correlate with a third, common factor: The sun.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 1:39 PM  

I'm hooked. I never thought I'd find a better cover band than Walk Off The Earth. I was wrong.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7BieooyNNA

Anonymous TheTruthIsAlwaysUnacceptable November 14, 2017 1:44 PM  

From the Wikipedia article on All Saints Day.
The feast of All Saints, on its current date, is traced to the foundation by Pope Gregory III (731–741) of an oratory in St. Peter's for the relics "of the holy apostles and of all saints, martyrs and confessors, of all the just made perfect who are at rest throughout the world", with the date moved to 1 November and the 13 May feast suppressed.

This fell on the Celtic holiday of Samhain, which had a theme similar to the Roman festival of Lemuria, but which was also a harvest festival. The Irish, having celebrated Samhain in the past, did not celebrate All Hallows Day {All Saints] on this 1 November date, as extant historical documents attest that the celebration in Ireland took place in the spring: "... the Felire of Oengus and the Martyrology of Tallaght prove that the early medieval churches [in Ireland] celebrated the feast of All Saints on 20 April."


So the Irish and Celtic use of Samhain predated the Christian feast of All Saints and the Irish Celtic church even continued with the old April date, leaving the existing Samhain feast intact, which was pagan in origin.

I am not sure why you have taken this position, since it only serves syncretistic agenda and the evidence points away from your contention.

Anonymous Tipsy November 14, 2017 1:45 PM  

The hit song about Johnny Appleseed from Disney's movie Melody Time starts off with the words "The Lord's been good to me, and so I thank the Lord."

How things have changed.

Anonymous WaterBoy November 14, 2017 1:49 PM  

Markku @121: "but it wasn't called Samhain (which is my argument). The word itself just means "summer's end". (sam + fuin). "

Precisely. There is no reason to favor the idea that Christians brought the phraseology of "summer's end" to the native pagan language, rather than the pagans using their own term to reflect their celebration themselves.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 1:50 PM  

This fell on the Celtic holiday of Samhain, which had a theme similar to the Roman festival of Lemuria, but which was also a harvest festival.

You're just making my point. Samhain is a harvest festival. Samhain is not All Hallow's Eve. Just like I said. Harvest is not what the druids celebrated. They celebrated the fact that in their model, the forces of darkness were winning now. The actual Samhain was celebrated in a Christian way, by Christians. They were thankful to God for the harvest, and the fact that they had rest now from the agricultural work.

I am not sure why you have taken this position

Because I'm not about to let the pagans lay claim to the name "Samhain". It's not theirs to claim. There is a LOT to criticize the way Americans celebrate "Halloween" (which is not celebrated here in any sense that an American would recognize) but that has nothing to do with Samhain. It has everything to do with the meaning of equinox to pagans.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 1:53 PM  

+1000 Twenty One Pilots shirt at 4:45.

I wouldn't be surprised if he had a Daryl Hall shirt or a Joe Bonamassa shirt on. Rachmaninoff, for that matter. Piano Concerto #2 in C minor, bitches!!11

Leo's cover of "Gangster's Paradise" is perfect.

So is his cover of Adele's "Hello".

I mean, Walk Off The Earth's cover of "Hello" was good, as was their other cover of it, with tap dancers, but they didn't have the roaring fire in the belly this dude has.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TU7dE_9Vi4

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 1:55 PM  

Over here, you take candles to your relatives' graves and go to church. Like, you know, in an ACTUAL All Hallow's Eve.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 2:04 PM  

It annoys me when pagans lay claim to Christian things, and then claim it was US to stole from them. It also annoys me when Christians let them.

Blogger Sam Lively November 14, 2017 2:12 PM  

@12

Beauty and the Beast was no exception. It's one of the more earnestly anti-patriarchal Disney efforts.

The Little Mermaid was the last Disney movie where anti-patriarchy was associated with evil. Ariel's contempt for her father's authority destroyed the kingdom.

Beauty and the Beast broke strongly with that tradition to put Belle in the seat of power. Her father was an incompetent boob. Her village was "provincial" and backward and looked down on her for wanting to read books. The great evil was not the she-devil promising her freedom from her father, but the hyper-macho Gaston, a domineering man who would replace her father and keep her under his thumb. Her love interest was not a handsome prince who would save her from her own folly, but a tormented beast who desperately needed her to love him.

This was capped off by Aladdin, where Jasmine's father was less than half her size, intimidated by her pet and completely helpless to resist anyone. Indeed, he was a total peon of the de facto patriarch Jafar. The love interest was a thief whose only crime was pretending to be someone worthy of her father's approval. The theme song - Whole New World - had plenty of the same amoral libertinism as Let it Go. Starting with the "let your heart decide" Boomer mantra and then continuing with:

A whole new world
A new fantastic point of view
No one to tell us no
Or where to go
Or say we're only dreaming

From there Disney went headlong into outright neopaganism with Pocahontas and Lion King, anti-clericalism with Hunchback, and another stab at anti-patriarchy in Tarzan before bowing out to make room for Pixar.

Frozen is part of the post-Pixar renaissance of 90's Disney liberalism, including Tangled and Wreck-It Ralph. They blend the obnoxious Boomer moralism of the earlier Disney renaissance with the postmodern, postmoral bent of Pixar. So you end up with a shot of liberal propaganda and a chaser of postmodern moral vacuousness.

Blogger haus frau November 14, 2017 2:31 PM  

I know its sort of off topic but is using burning sage to drive out a spiritual presence something that a christian should do? I was visiting a friend the other day who recently moved into a 120 year old fixer upper. She has long been used to feeling, hearing, and occasionally seeing spirits. Some she describes as human, other demomic though she suspects the human spirits are just demonic spirits masquerading as human. She attends church and does say that the use of sage is questionable bit it has worked, mostly. In the current house there are spaces where the sage will not stay lit and matches and lighters will not work though they worknonce again on exiting the house. I tend to think she needs a pastor to bless the house and drop the pagan stuff.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 2:34 PM  

My mother lived in a haunted house. Try to get the demon to manifest (use trickery if necessary), then expel it in the name of Jesus Christ. Also, Hugh Ross once said that in a similar situation, when one part of the house was clearly more active than the rest, there were occult symbols hidden under the wallpaper, and an occult object hidden in the garage. They had to be removed.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 2:35 PM  

My first instinct would be a definite no to the sage.

Blogger Conor Foran November 14, 2017 2:36 PM  

Get your holy water, sacramentals, and preferably an exorcist. Read passages from your Bible.

No burning of herbs, or rites that call on the 'elements' or spirits, or burning incense (unless it's been blessed). Ever.

Blogger R Beisert November 14, 2017 2:37 PM  

I've noticed this trend among women with appallingly low levels of discernment. They seem obsessed with songs that convey the most destructive messages, and while they might say that they're aware that the songs are not supposed to be guidelines for their lives...

The number of girls who get manic looks in their eyes as they hum "Before He Cheats" or "He Had it Coming" is truly disturbing. The sweetest, most innocent girl you know takes on the semblance of a predator out of hell.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 2:40 PM  

In my mother's and grandmother's experience, the demon has to be actually there when you're commanding it. In that case, it had taken an ectoplasmic form of an old woman and was standing right in front of them.

Blogger R Beisert November 14, 2017 2:52 PM  

W.R.T posts like @45:

The actual storyline and moral are substantially less relevant to children than the catchiest songs and most intriguing characters. I had the chance to see The Lion King when I was a little thing, and though immediately after the film I could basically tell you the moral of the story I spent months upon months singing "Hakuna Matata."

My mind was focused entirely on the worst possible message I could take away from the film, and the same is true of many of Disney's modern works. The Little Mermaid's story is theoretically about how Ariel's selfishness and naivete nearly destroyed the world, but the part we all take away is "Part of Your World" (which is, really, about going blindly into the world completely free of daddy's rules) and the fact that daddy essentially apologizes for inhibiting Ariel at the end. Beauty and the Beast is truly about judging people by their deeds and not their appearances, but the part most kids dwell on is "Be our Guest" (which is about being served all sorts of nice things - it doesn't sound like a big deal until you wonder how your kids developed a lazy, entitled attitude). Pocahontas...okay, everything about that movie is bad, and whatever kids take away is probably bad.

We can all see the problem, I hope. It doesn't really matter how much good there is in a film if children dwell on the evil things. And, as I've seen and many others affirm, what children get from Frozen is "Let it Go" (so much so that some two-year-olds I've seen refer to the film as "Let it Go").

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 2:58 PM  

The demon is going to try its best to avoid getting a direct command to leave from someone with authority to give it, so it's going to be a bit of a hide and seek thing.

Try to make its presence in the house as odious to it as possible so that it decides that some other house is a softer target. Sing hymns and read the Bible aloud regularly, especially in the problem areas. Hold Bible studies in the house. Make it hate every second of its stay because there is no peace anywhere.

Blogger Gifford Pinchot November 14, 2017 3:03 PM  

Vox,
please stop badmouthing Aleister Crowley and comparing him to the degenerates at disney.

"Contrary to the anarchistic or nihilistic interpretation often given Thelema’s “do what thou wilt,” Crowley defined the Thelemic state as a free association for the common good. The individual will is accomplished through social co-operation. Individual will and social duty should be in accord, the individual “absolutely disciplined to serve his own, and the common purpose, without friction.”[2]


Crowley emphasized his meaning so as not to be confused with anarchism or liberalism. While his Liber Oz (“Rights of Man”)[3] seems to be a formula for total individual sovereignty devoid of social restraint, Crowley stated: “This statement must not be regarded as individualism run wild.”[4]"

[2] The Law is for all, p. 101.

[3] The Law is for all, p. 321 Liber Oz.

[4] The Law is for all, p. 321

https://www.counter-currents.com/2010/09/aleister-crowley-as-political-theorist-part-2/

Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 3:05 PM  

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Blogger Howard Stone November 14, 2017 3:06 PM  

@Gifford Pinchot, funny, that’s probably how Nimrod would have put it.

Blogger R Beisert November 14, 2017 3:07 PM  

@135, et al.

Consider the lessons of Christ and his disciples concerning demons. When Christ spoke to the legion from the wild man, they immediately fell down in fear and begged to be sent among the pigs. When Paul commanded the demons from the damsel in Philippi, they immediately came out of her.

Christ has said, "If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, 'Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.'" This he spoke following the failure of the disciples to cast out a devil from a sickly child.

Beware the folly of the sons of Sceva, who sought to cast out demons in the name of a Christ in whom they had no faith. And beware the sin of Simon Magus, who believed that one could buy the gift of the holy spirit and resorted to sorcery. Incantations, rituals, and the burning of incense are wielded by those who know not Christ nor have faith in His promises unto them.

"Resist the devil, and he shall flee from you," saith the apostle James. Not because of what you have done, but because of the Lord Jesus Christ into whose family you are adopted, because of the Holy Spirit who is with you, and because of the Father Almighty whom you serve.

Anonymous CPEG November 14, 2017 3:14 PM  

'The actual storyline and moral are substantially less relevant to children than the catchiest songs and most intriguing characters. I had the chance to see The Lion King when I was a little thing, and though immediately after the film I could basically tell you the moral of the story I spent months upon months singing "Hakuna Matata." '

That bunkum about "Technically in context her decision works out poorly for people" would make a lot more sense - if it was presented that way, e.g., if the music and visuals made it "feel" like a bad thing was happening. As it is, that scene on its own looks like her getting a Way Cool Costume and she gets to use Way Cool Powers while singing an upbeat song about how great it is to not be bound by restrictive rules anymore, how fun!

Anonymous Renegade Third Worlder November 14, 2017 4:15 PM  

"One thing I will say for YouTube: it has totally transformed the way young guitarists learn to play their instruments. It is ASTONISHING how good they are."

Funny that you mention these guys' cover of Africa. I discovered it a few weeks ago and completely blew me away.

Couldn't agree more about YouTube guitarists. My latest discovery is Martin Miller. The dude managed to make me say what I never, ever thought I would: his band's cover of Shine on You Crazy Diamond is simply superior than the original...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev3ZkXxf4QQ

Anonymous Lord of the Fleas November 14, 2017 4:53 PM  

@34 Kat:

...and then inviting James Earl Jones to read the Christmas story was about as blatant an FU to Christianity as I've seen...

You lost me on that one. What is it about James Earl Jones that I don't know?

Blogger CM November 14, 2017 5:09 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:@42 pyrrhus

Dumbo is one of the best anti-alcohol & anti-drug promotions ever.


Lol is that what it was? How bout Alice in WL?

Pink Elephants always gave me nightmares.

Blogger John Bradley November 14, 2017 5:10 PM  

@148 Thanks for that link; awesome Pink Floyd melody. I like that they made it their own somewhat, rather than playing it note-for-note.

On the "kids today and their crazy talent" subject, here's another one: 17 year old keyboard player Domi Degalle.

https://youtu.be/fEjqQ17RUIs

While it's not unheard of for teenagers to be virtuoso piano players, that's typically in the Classical domain, and more a measure of technical ability. It's pretty rare to find a kid who can improvise and hang with someone else.

Hell, some of us have been playing for 40 years and can't pull it off... *cough*

Blogger CM November 14, 2017 5:12 PM  

Desdichado wrote:CM wrote:The exceptions are Sleeping Beauty and Snow White.

The Lion King's mantra is "Hakuna Matata". We might like the "Bare Necessities," but Hakuna Matata is a lot like Let it Go in just awful messaging.


Hakuna Matata isn't the mantra of The Lion King. Quite the opposite; when whatever that lion cub's name was was going through his prodigal son phase, that was the mantra that he quoted. When he repented and returned to do his duty, he foreswore the mantra of Hakuna Matata.

Not to defend Disney, but don't try to use an example that's actually completely backwards.


That is an interesting take on it. I know LK is Hamlet, but didn't think of the prodigal.

However, as has been said before in this thread, the catchy songs are the point of propaganda.

There might be a good story there, but the catchy tune your kid is singing is what they are going to walk away with.

Blogger haus frau November 14, 2017 5:15 PM  

Markku thanks for the info. Ill pass along the advice, especially reading bible passages. How do you "trick" something like that to manifest? I dont think i would have the spine to do that myself.

Blogger Thebrainfuggler November 14, 2017 5:28 PM  

Before "Let It Go", there was "Defying Gravity" in the musical Wicked.

Blogger Demonic Professor El November 14, 2017 5:32 PM  

Even as a kid, Disney movies struck me as a little...wrong...Something instinctual about it.

As an adult, it's a little more articulated.

Note: the wife unit and I have already discussed raising the kiddos Disney-less and thankfully agree.

Blogger John Calabro November 14, 2017 6:06 PM  

"improve upon the song is a video full of tattooed strippers on poles doing drugs that ends with snow falling upon a grave with a woman's name and dates indicating that she died in her 20s."

Or I can suggested a over weight fat acceptance woman drinking a liters of Soda and eating a packs of fries until her heart attack at 25

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 6:28 PM  

Markku thanks for the info. Ill pass along the advice, especially reading bible passages. How do you "trick" something like that to manifest? I dont think i would have the spine to do that myself.

Look at it more like evicting a tenant who doesn't want to leave. It doesn't leave, because it's reasonably comfortable where it is, at least so as to not take the risk of going wandering, and not finding anything as good. So, increase the pressure and discomfort. Make it more clearly a Christian space, where it constantly encounters the things of God. Eventually it will be faced with only one last option: Manifest, and try to scare the owner into leaving - but then take the risk that while it is unambiguously there to hear the command, it has to obey it. Based on my mother's experience, demons are cheeky bastards. If they can pretend to not have heard it, they will. So, you have to actually know it's present, to hear it.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 6:30 PM  

OR, it could just silently leave, if it sees where this is going. Especially if you do in fact find that there is something occult in the house - possibly hidden - and you remove it. So it loses its claim to the space.

Blogger L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright November 14, 2017 6:34 PM  

We noticed here. We HATE Frozen at the Wright Household. We were just complaining about it today.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 6:34 PM  

Obviously, one needs to actually be a genuine believer to command it in Christ's name, and have it be effective. There is a sad story in New Testament about what happens if one is not...

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 14, 2017 7:01 PM  

I walked away from Frozen with three thoughts.
1. In was shocked with how they sexualized Elsa on the balcony.
2. The tale seemed an analogy of modern childhood and how abusive it is. I instantly thought of public schooling. The pressure children have to grow up and the insanity The System.
3. Why are Japanese able to create greate CGI for Disney yet Japanese movies with CGI are horrible?

Funny enough, many Japanese see Disney as "Japanese". I asked about the sexualization of Elsa and never really got a good response. Of course Japan is infamous their perverts and it's not uncommon to see school age kids reading a normal action manga next to what must be described as pedophilia manga. It's an oddity of the Japanese IMO.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 7:21 PM  

@160 Markku & @153 haus frau

You need to pray through each room. Feel free to bless some oil and put it on the door frames as well. It needs to be done, room by room, as if driving the spirit into the one area it has the most grasp upon. The friend should probably know the final room that's the issue by sense, so keep that one for last. (Closets as well, btw.)

If you've got one that's deeply hooked into a room, odds are something really evil went down there with its help. It's not going to be happy when you come praying in its face, so you have to be steeled for it. It's not an experience most people end up actually having to deal with.

Related, graveyards are mostly empty, but places where something very evil happened are almost never empty. The Christian should always appraise themselves of this.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 14, 2017 7:23 PM  

@161 Meng Greenleaf

It's just money. Disney/Pixar spend between 120-200 Million USD per movie. The Japanese movie industry runs on the cheap because the Japanese don't really go to movies much, and they don't buy a lot of BluRay/DVDs either.

Frozen was a huge hit in Japan, but they also had a Japanese version of the song that's supposed to have somewhat different lyrics. Haven't actually looked up the translation.

Anonymous logprof November 14, 2017 7:48 PM  

Filioli, custodite vos a simulacris. Amen.

Blogger The Kurgan November 14, 2017 8:11 PM  

Ummm actually.... thank God for DNA. I thought Anna was the coolest person in Frozen. And my kid thinks so too.

Anonymous Kat November 14, 2017 8:37 PM  

Lord of the Fleas wrote:@34 Kat:

...and then inviting James Earl Jones to read the Christmas story was about as blatant an FU to Christianity as I've seen...

You lost me on that one. What is it about James Earl Jones that I don't know?


I have nothing against the man personally and everything against Disney for treating the incarnation of Christ as another spectacle they can pull out at Christmas. Want to see gays parading around? We have a week for that? Want to hear the Nativity story expertly read by professionals with surrounding pageantry? We sell tickets! It's disgusting.

Anonymous HoosierHillbilly November 14, 2017 8:48 PM  

Dang. All them links were impressive. Time to add these into the cycle.

Blogger haus frau November 14, 2017 9:41 PM  

Thank you markku and looking glass. That is a far better strategy than plating with pagan customs. I feel there is something risky about straying from the Christian path on this issue even if it appears to be effective.

Blogger Markku November 14, 2017 9:51 PM  

Yeah, I suspect they are going to give small, fake signs to pagan customs apparently working, just to guarantee that THOSE are what you'll opt for instead of something that actually works. Then they'll laugh behind your back.

Blogger Samuel Nock November 14, 2017 10:34 PM  

His t-shirt choice in the video is no accident either.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 10:48 PM  

@148 Renegade Third Worlder

Thanks. Wonderful.

We are in a music renaissance, right now.

Vox is right: YouTube is making that possible.

No longer are there gatekeepers.

The only reason we had the angry Seattle "grunge" "scene" was because the gatekeepers and MTV all said, all at once, just when rock and roll was at it's happiest and most positive, was that George Bush was elected President. The gatekeepers said "Make angry, nihilistic garbage music. Heck, even make a band called 'Garbage.' Or you won't see any airplay."

Remember Spin Doctors? Remember how happy their music was? Remember Van Halen? Of course you do. It was metal-ish, but it was happy! Bush got elected, the Powers That Be said, "You all have to make angry music now."

I bet Kurt Cobain wanted to to Barry White and Commodores covers.

The gatekeepers told him no. Make angry. Make nihilistic. I wonder if Kurt Cobain's shotgun had a MTV logo on it.

The old gatekeepers are powerless, now. It's a breath of fresh air. Nothing about the Seattle "scene" was organic or spontaneous. Anti-Bush. That's all it was.

Anonymous Ahärôwn November 14, 2017 10:57 PM  

dc.sunsets wrote:Post-hoc logical fallacy saturates our daily lives because we are generally "if-then" logic machines constantly seeking exploitable connections.

Pop culture doesn't lead people. People (the herd, the mass mind, the mob) determines what is popular. Under the socionomic hypothesis, social mood leads, and assigns the character of what is popular.


This is something that was forcefully brought home tome in my time studying in the US (I'm Canadian). People actually thought Disney and other movies were good - and this was at a Christian university. As an outsider, I realized that much of the supposed "values" arguments against such stuff was little more than virtue signalling and money making for those who worked in such .orgs. (Thankfully, I didn't meet many of these people).

More and more, I appreciate my strict, Pentecostal/Charismatic upbringing, where even Disney was considered bad - and this was over thirty years ago, back when their movies were better than today. Interestingly, I noticed that the other students that were brought up in stricter Christian homes, many of them home-schooled, also avoided a a great deal of pop culture, which is why they tended to be more solidly Christian than those whose parents did not.

Now, it's all about "Family values," whatever those are. (Lack of overt sex, violence, and bad language, seemingly). Dalrock dissects many so-called "Christian" movies over at his blog which fall into this trap, which is why so many of them are so bad.

"Book of Eli" is more Christian than "Veggie Tales." Christianity, historically and worldwide is much more than American civic religion. A massive blind spot, indeed.

Blogger Zimri November 14, 2017 11:16 PM  

I know I am very late to this party, but I always thought "Let It Go" was supposed to be Miltonic.

Where Frozen failed was in failing to establish Elsa as the villain. It also failed to establish a man as the force to redeem Elsa.

But then, Blake said that Milton as a Whig was too self-compromised to refute Satan. So...

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 11:23 PM  

@151

Thanks. Herbie Hancock would gush.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 11:28 PM  

@155 I would recommend Stuido Ghibli films.

All of them. Wait to show them Grave of the Fireflies, though, until they're older. That one is as hard to watch as Schindler's List. Like that one, I've only watched it once. Beautiful film, but I don't ever want to see it again.

Ghibli is the Japanese Disney. Only it's good.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 11:32 PM  

Markku, your comments are spot on, BTW.

Most people on these innertubes would think you're nuts.

Nope. Spot-on advice.

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 11:45 PM  

This is what YouTube does to people.

Oh, the humanity...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEmD17kYsE

Anonymous Wooly November 14, 2017 11:50 PM  

Dammit, Vox. I can't turn away.

So many good performances.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnEmD17kYsE

Blogger Feather Blade November 15, 2017 12:24 AM  

Zimri wrote:Where Frozen failed was in failing to establish Elsa as the villain. It also failed to establish a man as the force to redeem Elsa.

The relationships were the most obvious point of annoyance in that movie. The stupid pretty princess should have ended up with the stupid (but surprisingly competent) pretty prince, and they could have lived happily-ever-after managing the kingdom together, and the ice queen should have ended up alone on the mountain top, admired and attended only by the guy who hates people and loves ice.

But noooo, the showrunners had to try to be "clever" and put in a "twist", leaving the ice queen alone but in charge of the kingdom, and pairing the stupid pretty princess with a peasant who doesn't even like her.

Anonymous Wooly November 15, 2017 12:58 AM  

Great, thanks for spoiling it for me, Feather.

(Actually, ten years might have gone by before I realized there was a film called "Frozen", before this thread.)

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 15, 2017 12:27 PM  

There is much irony and ignorance here. Obviously very few people know how copyright works so let's give you all a short lesson. If you think you are giving Disney the finger by listening to or purchasing various 'covers' of Let it Go, you a totally deluded.

The fact of the matter is that by endorsing and supporting those who cover Disney songs you are making Disney more money.

Let's take the cover referenced at the top as an example. The copyright (music and words) to the song Let it Go is owned and controlled by Wonderland Music Co. a subsidiary of Disney. Assuming that Leo Moracchioli followed the law here (likely given the size and power of Disney, who literally paid to rewrite the copyright law in 1998), Goolag (YouTube) has to pay Disney a fair sum of money per play for this cover to ASCAP. If Moracchioli wants to sell copies on iTunes or include on a CD, he has to pay Harry Fox (collecting for Wonderland Music) 9.1 cents per unit.

Disney owns the song. They can't stop others from covering once the first recording was issued, but anyone covering it has to pay Disney - whether it's played live in a bar, put up on YouTube (or anywhere online), broadcast over radio (including internet radio), or produced on legacy vinyl 45rpms for the Millenials who go for such things.

The copyright for this item will not expire in either the USSA or the EUSSR until 70 years after the death of the last surviving contributor, of which there are two (a husband and wife team according to the helpful Infogalactic article). Both are still alive and working.

This is an excellent example of why we've lost so much. You may think you're 'sticking it to Disney' while listening to the Moracchioli's cover, but they're rubbing their hands in glee as you pay them for your goodfeelz.

Anonymous Jill November 15, 2017 1:36 PM  

What Americans celebrate is anything from vaccuously benign to playing at paganism. Most churches have harvest festivals, but when you have year round harvest at Wal Mart and change your clocks twice a year to deny the path of the sun, that, too, becomes meaningless. It's easy for these hollow spaces to be filled by pagans. And sad.

Anonymous Jill November 15, 2017 1:43 PM  

The guy with the weird beard--I've seen a lot of his videos. Maybe Let It Go. I'm not that familiar with Disney pop music. I'm a snob, I guess. Anyway, dude is good musically and always looks like he's having fun. The energy in his music is great.

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