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Wednesday, November 22, 2017

SJW doesn't pay

The saddest thing about this post by a disillusioned woman is that only some corporations view a Gender Studies degree as a negative:
I'm a graduate of UC Berkeley with a major in Gender and Women's Studies. I had a 3.94 GPA and a 750 on the GMAT. My WE isn't that good, I've been a "Youth Outreach Coordinator" for Asian Pacific Islander Legal Outreach. I make like 30k a year.

To be honest, I was overly idealistic and extremely naive. I was extremely liberal/socialist, and that got worse at Berkeley, where I thought good intentions and a pedigreed university would empower me to change the world. I was deluding myself of the employability of my Gender Studies degree. It's actually been a con to some corporate employers. I'm disillusioned.

Social justice work isn't for me, and I want out. The fact that I've learned, is that some marginalized groups are definitely victims of their circumstances, but others are there for genuinely poor decisions, and not all are deserving of unvarnished empathy. I can't take this anymore. But I haven't been able to get non-retail or non-low-level sales jobs in the business sector.

My dad was a management consultant at Bain, and I miss my family's lifestyle and standard of living. I want to go into management consulting now. I'm fine with tier 2/big4/boutiques, doesn't have to be MBB. What are my options?
Her best option is to get a retail job, get married, have children, then quit the job. A university education is worse than wasted on most intelligent women, being an observably dysgenic and societally destructive accomplishment.

The chief consequence of encouraging women to pursue college degrees is lowering the average national IQ. This is not merely a negative consequence, it is a catastrophic one that future historians will be sure to note played a role in the collapse of various Western societies.

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125 Comments:

Blogger Groggy November 22, 2017 8:06 AM  

And if that wasn't enough, when taking into account hypergamy, it makes it harder for them to find a suitable mate making it more likely they will be single and lonely.

Anonymous p-dawg November 22, 2017 8:09 AM  

Things are tough all over. A good friend of mine made some poor choices years ago, and he is now working in a warehouse instead of a cushy tech job. He didn't bitch about not being able to get a cushy tech job, he just took the first job he could get and he's working his way back up. My guess is that in one year, he will be in a much better place than this chick, and probably in a much better job. He's already outperforming the other low-wage workers, and it's getting noticed. Hard work plus time equals success.

Blogger Chris Lutz November 22, 2017 8:11 AM  

I like how she wants to go into management consulting now. What company in their right mind would hire her as a consultant. She's still living in dreamland.

Blogger Silly but True November 22, 2017 8:12 AM  

The good news is that we aren't punitive, yet, so she had a bunch of options still available.

But all of them begin with "First, undye your blue hair."

Anonymous Faceless November 22, 2017 8:15 AM  

This is like accepting Katie Pavlich as having any insight into politics... Why would anyone accept management consulting services from a girl who got a stupid degree and who has no experience?

Anonymous TheTruthIsNeverAcceptable November 22, 2017 8:20 AM  

I had a liberal couple (friends and members of my wedding party) have a "come to Jesus" moment when they worked at a men's shelter in western Pennsylvania for five years. The husband was director. Their view of the poor and homeless underwent a drastic revision, for a time. Years later and being distant from the experience their liberal ethos reasserted itself as the memories dimmed and the excuses and rationalizations papered over the previous "wokeness" and they fell back under the spell of Wormtongue.

Blogger Redpill Angel November 22, 2017 8:21 AM  

Maybe it's not too late for her. Yes, Groggy, the high-IQ woman will never be suitably subdued by any man more than 1SD below her, and yet she is just like other women. The average guy is smart to avoid her. College used to be the best place to find a high-IQ guy but now girls are encouraged to waste that precious time.

Blogger Timmy3 November 22, 2017 8:21 AM  

Why don’t she ask her dad how he broke into Management Consulting? Actually the path is straight forward, but getting hired is hard. Most want an MBA. So go back to school and take on more debt. She can always work in HR. Another option is do technical writing for a high tech or defense firm. She needs to network to break into the field. The degree doesn’t always matter. The first job requires connecting with people who see something useful than the perceived whiny brat that we think of a Gender Studies major.

Anonymous Steve Canyon November 22, 2017 8:22 AM  

Why would anyone accept management consulting services from a company that hires guys that can't manage their family and allow their daughters to entertain insipid notions of how the world works?

Blogger Chris Lutz November 22, 2017 8:23 AM  

@4 I read some of the comments and they are as clueless as she is. They spend most of their time telling her to change the way she presents the information about herself. The cluebat does not seem to have struck them with the concept that she has no work experience, a worthless degree, and some "charity" work.

Anonymous TS November 22, 2017 8:23 AM  

And as soon as she gets married and has some kids a surprising job offer appears that will pay her substantially more than her husband making her the bread winner hmmmm...

Blogger Ken Prescott November 22, 2017 8:30 AM  

Back in the day, if she could write reasonably well, was willing to put in 60 hour weeks, and be willing to become expert in a field nobody else knee anything about, she could get hired at Booz Allen Hamilton as a research assistant, probably meet a decent guy without a lot of debt and a better job, and marry up.

Now, not so much. Even the entry positions are requiring an MBA now.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 22, 2017 8:36 AM  

Sounds like a troll job to me, but if this is remotely true I would love to hear of her experiences with the lovely people of color, epic.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 22, 2017 8:40 AM  

Yup. Preferably a retail job that puts you in prolonged contact with the sort of men you want to marry.

Aeoli's guide to flirting for chicks
1. Make yourself as pretty as possible.
2. Go where the boys you want are
3. Be friendly, think good customer service

There's a reason they have to write those articles about how the barista isn't flirting, she's just being nice.

Blogger tuberman November 22, 2017 8:40 AM  

The question is: Will she give up, take some kind of SSRI, then become a drunk by her mid-40's? She is a long way from any red-pill awareness, perhaps this will change as the SJW industry is completely undermined, and the Left falls.

I mean who would want her as a wife, as I imagine her still Victim Card Playing whenever, and sometimes a Drama Queen.

Anonymous Faceless November 22, 2017 8:41 AM  

@8

Ideally, she wouldn't disgrace the family name by putting her identity out there.

Blogger Rick November 22, 2017 8:42 AM  

She’ll be fine. She woke in the age of MAGA.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 22, 2017 8:44 AM  

The first issue: she isn't her father and she won't admit that.

Second issue: if you want to live like your *mother*, then marry like your mother.

The fact none of them can see that is their major dysfunction.

Blogger Ned November 22, 2017 8:46 AM  

Normally all I'd have to say to a woman who says "social justice work" with a straight face is "shut up and make my coffee."

Anonymous Rien November 22, 2017 8:48 AM  

Hilarious: "The fact that I've learned, is ..., but others are there for genuinely poor decisions"

Exactly, you have made a genuinely poor decision!

Blogger Brad Matthews November 22, 2017 8:49 AM  

I don't know a thing about managing and in general have made terrible decisions, but consult me for advice.

Blogger Alexander November 22, 2017 8:51 AM  

Can't begrudge her being honest and practically it's fair enough, but trololol at "I miss the lifestyle my daddy provided for me."

In the same breath will she declare female privilege is not a thing?

Blogger tuberman November 22, 2017 8:52 AM  

No, she won't be "fine," as she needs to awake a lot more.

If she was really smart, she could use her experience in that nonsense to show how stupid it is, and she could get married too with that amount of red-pilling.

Blogger Wanderer November 22, 2017 8:54 AM  

The sad part is that no matter how retarded a woman's life choices, and no matter how bad she's hit the wall and aged like milk, there are still plenty of beta orbiters that would line up to wife her in a heartbeat. Divorce-raping some beta leftist after farting out 2-3 kids will be her new roadmap to a cozy middle class lifestyle.

Anonymous CarpeOro November 22, 2017 8:55 AM  

What is sad that ANY corporations don't view it is a negative. An honest description of the degree's marketability would be along the lines of:

A career path for this degree consists of employment in a large metropolitan area (or at the very least a Fortune 100 company. Ones in smaller cities will scale down pay to keep it in relation to larger cities). There your initial placement will be starting off as an indentured servant (making barely enough to pay the rent -eating to be supported by parents, dates, or NA) in HR. After switching to a more common HR role pay will increase slightly. In twenty years, if you have applied what you have learned in college well and diversified the company to the point that women are underrepresented at 60% of management positions, you will be searching for your next job (the company going into bankruptcy for the third time won't even appear as a takeover target).

Secondary career paths include: barista, retail sales position at a department store, or similar positions along with welfare recipient with the birth of children (pay scales up with additional children as long as they are only related to previous children 50% genetically).

Less viable career paths include marriage, though this is contingent on finding a man with sufficiently low SMV that they are willing to taken on not only the challenges of your personality but also your student debt burden.

Projected ROI: -400% (short term)
Projected ROI: -? (long term)

Anonymous Causal Lurker November 22, 2017 8:58 AM  

Suicide shot: "My dad was a management consultant at Bain, and I miss my family's lifestyle and standard of living." In plain English, you miss Daddy's wealth and ability to pay for your every whim. Too bad. Dearie, what was YOUR MOTHER's role in making all this possible? Was she trying to out-consult him, or was she running the family and household so he could successfully consult and club MBAs (oops, meant other dinosaurs) for the money to make this possible, without being undermined and demoralized at home?

Repent and find some way to meet good men. Marry, have children, and make a good home. Love and wealth grow as compound interest. Perhaps Daddy can introduce you to the better sons or nephews of people he knows. Or, would that be so ... patriarchal?

Disney Princess Transform, a solenoidal process that makes everything worse. There is no inverse transform for this.

As I write this, I hear a newly promoted female in the next office through an open door, complaining

How to control her children (one bright, one normal).
What about all the energy I need for work?

She does not realize that she's her own worst enemy. Of course, should I breathe word one of the obvious truth she's coming to, I'd be frogmarched to HR and released immediately for badthink.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 22, 2017 8:59 AM  

It seems she has no interest in marrying a Pacific Islander former client that much is sure.

There seems to be a shortage of successful white chads.

Blogger tuberman November 22, 2017 9:01 AM  

I would say in the next couple of years, there will be a Yuge awakening (and also, the most fierce doubling-down ever), and a lot of it will happen over the next few months, so a woman like this could actually escape into a good life. She will no longer be surrounded by every other woman and feminized male telling her to stay the course, and the truths against the NWO will be devastating.

Blogger Howard Stone November 22, 2017 9:04 AM  

She can always go into politics.

Blogger tuberman November 22, 2017 9:06 AM  

She has the right to consult on just one thing: Women's Studies is a Ponzi Scheme and a big Scam.

Anonymous Iron Spartan November 22, 2017 9:09 AM  

No experience, no knowledge, and at least one major red flag. More red flags if she has a face full of metal, visible tattoos, and blue/green hair. And yet can't figure out why no one wants to hire her.

What's worse is that she thinks she is entitled to a job that usually requires 10-15 years experience and an MBA.

Pain is a very good teacher. It appears that she is just starting to learn.

Blogger VD November 22, 2017 9:09 AM  

Second issue: if you want to live like your *mother*, then marry like your mother.

That is the key.

Blogger Nate November 22, 2017 9:09 AM  

any sane prospective employer... or even school admissions administrator... would look at this girl's CV and see "CANCER" in big bold letters.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 22, 2017 9:10 AM  

@7: No tech or defense firm will hire her. A "Gender Studies" major? Hell, you KNOW that's an SJW. Deny it entry.

I'll point out something I told my nieces - that I'd help them with college IF they majored in something useful. Otherwise, I'd not waste my money.

One graduated with a degree in mathematics, the other is in nursing school.

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 22, 2017 9:15 AM  

Hopefully she imbibed enough Berkeley culture to render herself functionally sterile. Please do not encourage foreigners to marry and reproduce here.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 22, 2017 9:15 AM  

I'll add that I might be going into consulting myself in a year's time. After retiring with 37 years experience, with experience that makes me a recognized expert in my field (with all due humility).

A consultant is selling expertise. Which comes from training and a truckload of experience. She doesn't have any to sell.

Blogger DonReynolds November 22, 2017 9:16 AM  

Being a Leftist Liberal feminist does not pay well, especially with that particular degree, but she has (begrudgingly) admitted that she no longer identifies with her radical youth days and wants to make a change.

WE should encourage her in some small way and turn some of that missionary zeal into a positive force. Perhaps she has noticed that "former Leftist" pays much better than Leftist and if she is willing to turn on her former comrades and argue against them, then there are some avenues.....

If she wants to do professional work and collect professional pay, she needs to join a profession. Medicine would require too much science education, which means a lot for retreading and retooling. The easy solution would be law school with the ultimate goal of becoming a prosecutor. Granted it does not pay as well as some other lawyer jobs, but it would give her plenty of courtroom experience and put her on the same side as law enforcement. Another possibility, if she is physically able, is to parlay the law degree into a career with the FBI....where the pay and bennies make it sweet enough to live well enough.

Who will she meet along the way? Much better mating choices than joining the Peace Corps or the teaching Gender Studies at a community college. Perhaps that is the real motivation here. Fellow Leftists are not actually good husband material.

Blogger Lovekraft November 22, 2017 9:16 AM  

The small glimpse of humility is a deception. Make no mistake, given the chance, every one of them would go back to their authoritarian, tax-leeching organizations in a heartbeat.

I imagine the Obama/Soros cabals are dedicating major time and energy in how to lay low for the present, protect their resources so that they can continue their agenda when the time is right.

VD's attitude is absolutely correct: impose real conditions on them that would indicate whether they've really cast off their r/selective ways (i.e. send out to the forest for a month with a comb and some raisins).

Blogger Groggy November 22, 2017 9:21 AM  

These people are due a modicum of sympathy.
They didn't create Social Justice.
They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 9:28 AM  

@37 "r/selective ways (i.e. send out to the forest for a month with a comb and some raisins)."

And if she really IS 'daddy's little princess' -- a unicorn will come lay its hea.. oh wait, no WAY is she a virgin!

So maybe she can entice squirrels with the raisins, and use the comb to comb their fur? And in return, they will bring her acorns to eat?

Blogger DonReynolds November 22, 2017 9:29 AM  

Groggy wrote:These people are due a modicum of sympathy.

They didn't create Social Justice.

They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into.


I agree completely, Groggy.
Both the popular media and her university experience pointed her in the same direction....it is only when she worked in the larger world that she repudiated the deal as unrewarding.

WE need to keep the door open the light on for people who ever decide to leave the Dark Side. This is not the Olympics and there is no competition for joining the Right side.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 9:30 AM  

@38 "These people are due a modicum of sympathy.
They didn't create Social Justice.
They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into."

Like the boomers should maybe get a little understanding for following their pathologized society where they were told to go/how they were told was the right way to act?

Nah, thought not.

Anonymous Cusefan44 November 22, 2017 9:35 AM  

They deserve no sympathy.

What they were indoctrinated to was an obvious lie - the issue isn't that they were lied to - it was that they wanted to believe the lie. No different than Eve in the garden.

Anonymous Chris November 22, 2017 9:46 AM  

If I were a hiring manager I would throw her resume in the bin the instant I saw Gender Studies degree. Not worth the headache, she should just get married and be done with it.

Blogger Mountain Man November 22, 2017 9:57 AM  

Ahhh... Bain one of the vultures of the "investment" world. The same Bain that made the magic underwear candidate filthy rich.
Sorry bitch..but there is not a tear to be shed. Im sure daddy has plenty of money to pay for your rent and cat food until its nursing home time.

Blogger pyrrhus November 22, 2017 9:57 AM  

The level of self deception and entitlement that could cause anyone with a modicum of intelligence to major in Gender Studies at a major university pretty much disqualifies her from real hard work. (So management consulting would be perfect, if she could only makeup for not having any substantive courses on her CV.) Decisions have consequences, and the fact that her parents obviously didn't do their jobs doesn't matter anymore.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 22, 2017 9:59 AM  

If she's desperate for a barren cubicle at 70 grand, she should leave her education off the resume.

Anonymous CarpeOro November 22, 2017 9:59 AM  

To be honest, she may be better off not listing her time in college and the fact that she completed her degree. The fact that she could chose a path and complete it is over rode by the fact it took her that long to figure it was the wrong path. Being focused enough to show an almost complete lack of wisdom or awareness of the real world is not a positive trait. Not when she bothers to say how well she did at failing. It really shows higher odds that left to her own devices she can't be trusted.

Blogger pyrrhus November 22, 2017 9:59 AM  

@44 Yes, that the daughter of an asset stripping scumbag ends up with nothing is ironic...

Blogger Gordon November 22, 2017 10:03 AM  

DonReynolds wrote:
WE need to keep the door open the light on for people who ever decide to leave the Dark Side.


Well, no. The door is closed, but we have a doorman who will respond to a knock. If she can explain her foolishness, and convince that she will not go back to her foolishness as soon as her status wants are satisfied, then she can be granted access. . . on probation.

See: Colorado, Austin and the flood of ex-Californians determined to screw up those places.

Blogger kmbr November 22, 2017 10:08 AM  

**My dad was a management consultant at Bain, and I miss my family's lifestyle and standard of living**

Welcome to the altright.

Oh, you aren't quite there yet? You will be.

Blogger Gordon November 22, 2017 10:10 AM  

"Oh, and in addition to an easy job I haven't earned, I'd like a wealthy mate. Yes, I did sleep my way through one of the black fraternities while at Berkeley, but now I'd like a man with no felonies and who doesn't disagree by punching you."

Blogger Jew613 November 22, 2017 10:13 AM  

She'd be much happier if she put all her effort into being attractive, both physically and spiritually. Learning the traditional skills and behaviors to become a good wife and mother. Work some unimportant job to pay the bills until she finds a husband and leaves the rat race.

Blogger Otto Lamp November 22, 2017 10:25 AM  

Her parents failed her by allowing her to major in a useless degree.

I had a child who wanted to major in art. Refused to pay for it. After she pitched her fit (and lost), we compromised on graphic design with a minor in computer science. Had to jump through some hoops at the university though, as neither the art or science department wanted to cooperate.

Turned out to be a good combo. There is a shortage in IT of front end designers who understand what goes on under the hood (in fact, most are pretty clueless).

Designing front ends isn't the kind of art she dreamed of, but it pays the bills.

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 10:26 AM  

Reasonable advice, for her, if marriage is possible. Her degree field alone makes that unlikely. What does she look lije, just how smart is she, how many lovers, tats, piercings doe she have? Drug use? Yeah, Burkeley or no, they are all... questionable with no or, worse, negative standards. She may simply be a permanent victim of man-hate brew, flotsam that simply must whither and die. There are women I wouldn't look at twice who are half my age.

Purely based, potentially, on what is simply implied in her query she may well be one. *nose up * A bit of conversation, after a look, and proximity would be needed, but it's almost set against her. I would love to find a wife but she has to be able and willing to be a wife. Dollars to donuts this one should become a nun of some sort, or a prostitute if she has somelooks... the original form of feminism when they realized work = hard.

Anonymous Causal Lurker November 22, 2017 10:41 AM  

Luke 15:11-32 The Parable of the Prodigal Son. Should have recalled this earlier; it's the succinct explanation. She appears stuck at verses 15-16.

Return home to make an act of contrition and atonement for foolish behavior. Then perhaps she'll find what she needs, but with the wisdom to realize that her options are limited now - Vox's option is her best choice among those available, but will require wisdom and humility.

And it's worse for Prodigal Daughters. Seen that in operation, which is why certain absences at family gatherings are not spoken about. My estimate is she gets 1-2 chances to prove she learned her lesson and has reformed. After that, you're suspected of using your family to enable bad habits.

Blogger James November 22, 2017 10:55 AM  

As far as the job market for single women is concerned, I understand that pole and lap dancing is a growth industry and can provide a satisfying career for motivated females. If she cleans up well and is not a land whale, hey, the sky's the limit. Best of all, no pesky college degree is required. You know the old joke, why is a bride so happy on her wedding day? She know's she's given her last blowjob. Well, honey, you've got to learn to swallow your pride.....and anything else.

Its funny that women were convinced that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career". Especially since they were CREATED to be mothers and helpmates. The most satisfied women I know are stay-at-home moms. It is estimated that 23% of women in their 40s and 50s take antidepressants, a higher percentage than any other group (by age or sex), and that women are 2½ times more likely to be taking an antidepressant than men. If you include sedatives and other psychotropic drugs (including illegal substances and alcohol), I wouldn't be surprised if more than half of all women take shelter in something that takes the edge off reality. Hard to believe in a world that celebrates sexual perversion and promotes women as the "future". If women are the future, we're in serious trouble.

Blogger Harambe November 22, 2017 10:56 AM  

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO MANAGE MY OWN FUTURE PROSPECTS BUT I WANT TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO MANAGE THEIR COMPANIES

Blogger James Dixon November 22, 2017 10:58 AM  

With her family background she should contact the local Edward Jones offices and see what they have available (be it answering the phone and making coffee). If she can get in the door they'll probably pay for her to retrain as an investment adviser and get into what she wants. She'll also be meeting the kind of men she should be looking to marry.

Anonymous Rien November 22, 2017 10:59 AM  

@DonReynolds

Its not as if the way to a better life is hidden. So WE don't *need* to do anything.
Make a wrong decision... you carry the consequences.

Not that we should be assholes over this, but WE have no obligation from HER bad decision.

Anonymous E. November 22, 2017 11:00 AM  

I see this among a lot of my peer group. Many of them who chose to be teachers leave their children in daycare (really good ones though!!!) while they minister to low IQ children of imported Americans.

The ones like this woman find a man to pay off their student loans, have children and then indoctrinate their children in the ways of social justice, the beauty of biracial children, the legitimacy of same sex parents and the ability of little Hayden or Brinleigh to be anything when they grow up - including a different gender.

Please don't marry these women unless they do full racanting and conversion. Let their genes and their horrible ideas die with them.

Blogger RobertT November 22, 2017 11:21 AM  

For such a smart, well educated woman, she over-uses the word 'that.'

Blogger Otto Lamp November 22, 2017 11:24 AM  

Its funny that women were convinced that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career".

60% of Ivy League female grads switch to part time or quit working entirely when they have a child.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/20/us/many-women-at-elite-colleges-set-career-path-to-motherhood.html?_r=0

The irony is these women preach the feminist lifestyle, but don't live it.

Oh, and why are they more likely to become stay at home moms than women in general? Because, they are more likely to have married a man that makes enough money to allow them to quit work and still have a good income.

In other words, they are following the old 1950's script. Snag a rich guy and let him support you.

OpenID markstoval November 22, 2017 11:28 AM  

"These people are due a modicum of sympathy. They didn't create Social Justice.
They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into."


This is spot on. But in the end, we all are responsible for our own actions. A bit of sympathy sure; but not a lot.

" The most satisfied women I know are stay-at-home moms."

I have worked with a lot of women in my field. (education) and most of them wanted to be stay at home moms. Several of my close friends took off for a decade or more to raise their kids.

Our society has done great damage by selling women on the idea that working is better than raising children. Great damage.

Blogger Otto Lamp November 22, 2017 11:29 AM  

With her family background she should contact the local Edward Jones offices and see what they have available...

Her women's studies degree is a huge red flag that spells TROUBLE.

Want a sexual harassment claim (in this climate)? Want to be accused of being sexist and discriminating against women? Want to hire an employee that causes you to walk around on eggshells?

Blogger Otto Lamp November 22, 2017 11:35 AM  

Our society has done great damage by selling women on the idea that working is better than raising children. Great damage.

The irony is young men are also finding out that there is more than life than grinding away at the grindstone. Hence the rise of the "slacker generation" who have realized living a reduced lifestyle they enjoy is better than the American dream of career, wife, kids, home, two weeks vacation, and heart attack.

The other irony is these men are destroying women's options to obtain the traditional women's lifestyle, which they start to yearn for when they reach 30.

Where DID all the good men go?

Blogger Cloom Glue November 22, 2017 11:39 AM  

Maybe sex-studies-femaleism girl was rejecting her family values.

I saw a woman on youtube whose backstory is: adopted from South Korea, fluent American English speaker, parents: different ethnicity than her (probably white, is my guess, (Christian)?), seems to be in Nebraska, mid-thirties, unmarried.

She learned arabic in one month and joined Islam, and is female-flag-planting Islam on MGTOW comments/chat sessions. (I am not mgtow, by the way, but female muslims attracted to mgtow might become a thing).

I said to her, "You emigrated to a Christian country, so God probably expected you to convert to Christ". "Why did you get diverted with an imitation gospel"?

Her only reply was "I think you do not have any idea what you are talking about".

I think that means I said what daddy said to her. She is intelligent enough to have said more than emotion, but she did not.

Anonymous JAG November 22, 2017 12:04 PM  

If a significant portion of these dupes were to take the red pill, and realize what suckers they really are for putting themselves into debt for life for a worthless degree I'm confident that guillotines would be erected on many college campuses.

Blogger pnq8787 November 22, 2017 12:04 PM  

Is it really the intelligent women who end up getting gender studies degrees?

I think the reality is that far far to many people are getting degrees in the first place.
There is nothing wrong with trade schools which focus on what you need to know to do something useful.
In fact, if a (white) man doesn't do something useful I think it degrades his self-esteem and can lead to suicide.

Any serious contribution to the humanities (e.g. literature or history) requires an academic dedication that goes far beyond that which the vast majority of humans are capable. I'm talking monk-level dedication here. The humanities now are just political agitation disguised as a serious a serious academic and cultural pursuit.

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 12:07 PM  

James Dixon,

You have to be joking! Look at men losing it all, some for very small infractions. If men hadn't stopped even looking at women at work, they will now. Add smart phones and all other official and not surveillance, and her area of "education". I think she is toast.

It is actually, still, easy for women to get married. It really is their choice. Some just won't. Maybe at this point can't? If those are goods, as they would be poison.

Blogger VFM #7634 November 22, 2017 12:08 PM  

Is it really the intelligent women who end up getting gender studies degrees?

@68 pnq8787
Heh. Good point.

If I had to guess, it's ugly women up and down the IQ continuum. Plenty of dimbulb nonwhite women who got into university on affirmative action get them too.

Anonymous Haxo Angmaerk November 22, 2017 12:15 PM  

VD: "her best option is to get married, have children"

probably not, at least not to a M-A-N. Because

most "Gender studies/women's studies" collegians are actually majoring in

campus lesbian networking.

in related news, the new head of the Engineering Dept. @ Purdue U.

is a bulldyke lez.

Blogger James Dixon November 22, 2017 12:25 PM  

> You have to be joking!

Where did I limit her options to her coworkers? The customers are also the type of men she should be looking at.

Anonymous GregMan November 22, 2017 12:31 PM  

"I make like 30k a year."

That much? I'm surprised she's not minimum wage with that CV.

"I miss my family's lifestyle and standard of living."

So do I, cupcake. My parents both had good, steady jobs with pensions, and no college degrees. I have THREE degrees (including your desired MBA) and my family's standard of living isn't close to what I grew up in, thanks to you and your ilk completely f***ing up America since the 1970's. Oh and by the way I'm in STEM, for all the good that's done me.

So f*** you to Hell and thanks for nothing, bitch. Complain to someone who gives a sh1t.

Blogger The Chortling November 22, 2017 12:38 PM  

Another reddit commenter spells out what she actually revealed... (to Vox's point above):

OttoLamp 2 points 2 hours ago*
Your dad's lifestyle of EARNING that standard of living was likely very different from your lifestyle of not earning that standard of living.
Working in a high pressure corporate environment brings its own set of problems and downers.
It sounds like what you really want is your MOTHER'S lifestyle.

----------

nailed. it.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 12:39 PM  

@42 "the issue isn't that they were lied to - it was that they wanted to believe the lie. No different than Eve in the garden."

Which "they" did you mean who "wanted to believe"? The young SJWs or the boomers? Not clear from your comment -- which means -- NOT CLEAR!

Surely you must mean that the SJWs KNOW their idiocy is lies-all-lies but want to believe anyway, right? How could anyone NOT immediately recognize the SJW b.s. AS b.s.?

Hmmmmm.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 12:43 PM  

@49 "See: Colorado, Austin and the flood of ex-Californians determined to screw up those places."

Or see: Washington State, quite already screwed up by an imvasion of Californies with their buckets of money and heads full of liberal idiocies!

Anonymous Grayman November 22, 2017 1:01 PM  

Also consider the issue of women in the workplace in any significant # especially in leadership roles.

Grossly simplified the female imperative is success through submission while the male imperative is success through conquest. The imperatives are fundamentally at odds when they are forced to compete with one another such as in the job market. In the family role these 2 imperatives are perfectly harmonious!

In essence feminism is entirely based on forcing the 2 imperatives to compete as opposed to cooperate. Which only ensures disaster since you have pitted an immovable object against an unstoppable force.

Anonymous Jack Amok November 22, 2017 1:04 PM  

They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into

Victims of molestation as children are disproportionately likely to become molesters themselves.

Blogger Duke Norfolk November 22, 2017 1:04 PM  

"I miss my family's lifestyle and standard of living"

Nooo, say it isn't so. LOL

Blogger CM November 22, 2017 1:05 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@38 "These people are due a modicum of sympathy.

They didn't create Social Justice.

They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into."

Like the boomers should maybe get a little understanding for following their pathologized society where they were told to go/how they were told was the right way to act?

Nah, thought not.


I thought the Boomers' problem was emotionally distant parents and a complete and total rebellion of rejecting parental wisdom and experience, pursuing everything their parents said not to.

Isn't that what people born to affluence do? They can afford to rebel and avoid the consequences.

Millenials are not taught by olders and wisers (they prize youth over wisdom), cut off from generations of wisdom by corrupt parents and emotionally distant grandparents.

Has anyone noticed a new push to get new parents to accept grandparents as important and necessary in the family dynamic and the mental health it provides for children? While I agree with it, the cynic in me knows it is the aging boomers who are fighting to stay relevant by insinuating themselves into the dysfunctional family lives they helped create.

I've seen a lot of young women having children who seek advice in how to manage boundaries or just to outright cut out dysfunctional grandparents from their children's lives.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 1:16 PM  

@56 "It's funny that women were convinced that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career"."

You left something out, FIFY:

It's funny that middle-class White women (((were convinced))) that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career".


It was NOT White/Euro women who made this crap up! What were White-Euro MEN doing to protect their womenfolk against the (((foreign contamination)))?! Oh, right -- you men were rolling in the free sex and no responsibility YOU (((were offered))) by the same source!!

But, boy, y'all are SURE happy to blame the women for the results of your OWN choices!

You recognize these names, don't you?

Gloria Steinem, whose MS magazine was a CIA op?
Betty Friedan, née Bettye Naomi Goldstein
Ruth Bader Ginsburg
Emma Goldman
Judy Goldsmith

Or try this discussion? https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-feminist-leaders/ by Dr. Judith Rosenbaum

my youthful assumption that there was something Jewish about feminism seemed to be validated by the disproportionate representation of Jewish women among the pioneers and leaders of the modern American women's movement.


Or some likelies and fer-shures among the founders of NOW?
Betty Friedan
Susan Brownmiller
Shulamith Firestone
Naomi Weinstein
Karen Lipschutz Decrow
Gloria Steinem
Gene Boyer
Kathryn Clarenbach
Mary Eastwood
Catherine East
Elizabeth Farians
Muriel Fox
Sonia Pressman Fuentes
Marguerite Rawalt
Alice Rossi

This? https://infogalactic.com/info/List_of_Jewish_feminists


Y'all seem happy to blame women, to castigate women, to separate FROM women -- and close your eyes to your OWN contribution to the destruction of our civilization!

You (we) will NEVER be able to FIX things, if you keep throwing the blame at women and pretending you were not JUST as brainwashed! A sense of "fairness" exists even in lower primates... you will not get far by discarding it where you won women are concerned! 2 min, 33 sec: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meiU6TxysCg )

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 1:25 PM  

James Dixon,

Coworker or customer, it simply doesn't matter, no man will take that risk. Men actually need a career to have a family. I'm terribly surprised so few are getting how deeply what is going on is effecting things. When a woman you dated thirty years ago, who became oppositional to your politics can become a threat to a senate run? Even just make stuff up wholecloth? Men may start requiring segregated work, and contracts even for dating. Now that even leftism isn't a shield, it just got real.

Blogger Cecil Henry November 22, 2017 1:31 PM  

Virtue Signalling is a really complex matter.

As you can see below:



https://twitter.com/Oil_Guns_Merica/status/933098869814050818

Blogger Ralph November 22, 2017 1:38 PM  

They always hate capitalism until they can’t.

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 1:41 PM  

Avalanche,

That is new feminism. Traditional feminism demanded fair wages (for men), and various other family friendly rights and privileges. When women were emancipated is when women showed their true colors. Women demanded and were given the vote and have set about destroying the family, church, economy, right down to sports and entertainment industry, and in all ways. Two words. Wood. Chipper.

Blogger Janus November 22, 2017 1:46 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@38 "These people are due a modicum of sympathy.

They didn't create Social Justice.

They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into."

Like the boomers should maybe get a little understanding for following their pathologized society where they were told to go/how they were told was the right way to act?

Nah, thought not.


Hey, Boomer, give it a rest, this thread isn't about you.

Oh wait, I forgot, everything at all times is about Boomers, my mistake. Do carry on.

(Vox is right, a Boomer's ability to make anything and everything about themselves truly is awe inspiring.)

Anonymous Grayman November 22, 2017 1:47 PM  

@81 Avalanche

While some may be blaming women for everything I do not think most of the alt-right space is doing that. Look at the recent popular term "soy boy". The alt-right is perfectly happy to tear apart male and female. That said, at the current point in time and for the last 30 years or so the matriarchy has been dominant. Those in power get a greater percent of the blame.

In reference to:
It's funny that middle-class White women (((were convinced))) that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career".
It was NOT White/Euro women who made this crap up! What were White-Euro MEN doing to protect their womenfolk against the (((foreign contamination)))?! Oh, right -- you men were rolling in the free sex and no responsibility YOU (((were offered))) by the same source!!
But, boy, y'all are SURE happy to blame the women for the results of your OWN choices!


While there are certainly lessons to be learned from understanding the details of these historical shifts, the overall event is not unique. Virtually every empire in recorded history has fallen when prosperity reaches a certain level. When those enduring prosperous times occur the indulgence of the absurd fringes seems trivial and the effort to push back against them seems to not be worth it given the bounty of peak empire. As those absurd fringes are tolerated the seeds of the empires death are sown.
In the case of the American empire 60's feminism wasn't the root cause, it was a long time coming, however the 60's was critical mass for the legions of the absurd to gain access to any real power and the beginning of the rise of the matriarchy.
Fast forward to present day and look at the red-pill / “manosphere” realm. It’s about “unfucking yourself”, reclaiming the male imperative. Given the nature of the feminine (submission) you will never see an equivalent female movement develop. The nature of the feminine is such that the change in the feminine sphere will only come when demanded by “Men” and the masculine imperative (conquest). As such the current feminine dominated society will have to be conquered by the masculine in order to return to balance. So from many appearances it will often seem to be the case of “they just blame the women” when in reality it is very much not the case, it’s the masculine taking responsibility for its role in the balance of the masculine and feminine. No matter how you look at it the process is one of the masculine having to re-conquer the feminine and as a result you can expect plenty of “oh the poor victimized women oppressed by the patriarchy”. Yet strangley enough there will plenty of "ladies" who see no threat or fear in the rising of the masculine, that will mostly be the harpies and feminists making the racket.

Anonymous Avalanche November 22, 2017 1:58 PM  

@85 "Women demanded and were given the vote and have set about destroying the family, church, economy, right down to sports and entertainment industry, and in all ways."

Nope, sorry. I WAS THERE! (Hell, I belonged to that dysfunction! I apologize, but the damage was done!) (Not for the given-the-vote part, but the rest!)

It was NOT White Euro women it was jewish women. (Did you not notice the lists I posted above?)

"Traditional feminism" was merely the entryism we discuss here all the time! Just as married women used to 'vote the way their husbands did' -- that is, they chose to fit into their milieu, their tribe -- women are BUILT to fit in. If they are raised and told that "our way" (which is, in truth, (((our))) way) is the right way -- we WILL fit in.

We may hate it -- and many many of us absolutely hated it -- but if that is what "our" society (((wants))) for us to uphold, then uphold it we will.

So many of you younger folks seem to think that we were just thrilled to change-over EVERYthing we were raised to believe (men and women both)! You see how today's Rightist who 'speaks out of turn' loses his career and any status? Why do you think it was any different back then? If one of us young boomers said (and MANY did!): "no, 'free love' is wrong and I won't participate" -- we were JUST as shunned, castigated, and insulted as a man today standing up for his race or religion.

Anonymous Grayman November 22, 2017 2:02 PM  

@ avalanche

It was NOT White Euro women it was jewish women. (Did you not notice the lists I posted above?)

Just one more reason (((they))) ALL have to go. Back or into the compost heap.

Blogger Dave W. November 22, 2017 2:13 PM  

I managed to convince my snowflake daughter to not go for a gender studies degree before she started college. "What job would you get with that degree?" She actually listened and changed to Pre-Law. MIRACLE!

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 2:22 PM  

Avalanche,

Women do vote tribal, but that tribe isn't race or subspecies, it is sex-based. When the majority of women are not Jewish, but their leaders are, that proves the point in why they, and many men, shouldn't be allowed to vote.

And, no you weren't there! What sort of madcow disease lends you to believe I might think you were around 1919? Actually, that was around the time most prods started accepting, even pushing, the pill. It all fits.

OpenID markstoval November 22, 2017 2:55 PM  

A very good essay and very on-topic for this tread:

Examining The Carnage Of The Sexual Revolution by Brett Stevens

http://www.amerika.org/politics/examining-the-carnage-of-the-sexual-revolution/

"... We were told that we could keep living as we had, but that this way, people would not face the consequences for relatively “innocent” behavior. Instead we got the utter destruction of the family."

Blogger horsewithnonick November 22, 2017 3:06 PM  

Those articles should read: The Barista isn't flirting WITH YOU. You're just practice.

Blogger Skyler the Weird November 22, 2017 3:12 PM  

She should get a job with her local Democrat Party headquarters and after a time use all the men and lesbians for sexual harassment and live off the settlement.

Blogger Lovekraft November 22, 2017 3:42 PM  

@90 Dave:

hm.

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/04/24/the-extinction-of-female-lawyers/



Blogger CJ November 22, 2017 3:42 PM  

Several commenters have noted the absurdity of someone with no experience or skills becoming a consultant telling companies how to manage their affairs. Valid point, but as someone with a lot of experience I can guarantee you that there are many such consultants.

Anonymous Magna Carta November 22, 2017 3:55 PM  

Back in the 70's (yes 70's) I was going to college studying for a social science degree. As a Christian, I'd go into my teacher's office and challenge their biases. After a couple years, I realized the whole program was gobbledygook and not science at all. I can't imagine how bad it would be now. I transitioned to get a technical degree in electronics and eventually writing software, which served me well. No school debt either.

OpenID crapulux November 22, 2017 4:11 PM  

> "some marginalized groups are definitely victims of their circumstances, but others are there for genuinely poor decisions, and not all are deserving of unvarnished empathy"

I really wonder if she's in deep shit due to being a "victim of circumstances" or due to her "genuinely poor decisions" ?...

> "my Gender Studies degree. It's actually been a con to some corporate employers."

Short story. Get hired by a company who loves gender studies degrees. Company is converged and goes bust. Bummer. So sad.

Blogger Redpill Angel November 22, 2017 4:29 PM  

So many excellent comments, but unless I missed it, no one addressed VD's points about the lowering of national IQ when brighter women don't have kids. If universities weren't totally ruined, I would disagree with the idea that women shouldn't go to college, but I must reluctantly agree for now. But my mom went to college, worked a couple of years, and married at 23. She had an IQ of 150, sewed all our clothes, and woke up at 5AM to read history books. Her education made her a happier person. The problem isn't education, per se, but the insidious indoctrination that taking care of babies is a waste of time, because it's intelligent women who fall for that line the fastest.

Blogger James November 22, 2017 4:39 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@56 "It's funny that women were convinced that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career"."

You left something out, FIFY:

It's funny that middle-class White women (((were convinced))) that their lives as mothers and housewives was not fulfilling and they could achieve their missing satisfaction by obtaining a "career".

It was NOT White/Euro women who made this crap up! What were White-Euro MEN doing to protect their womenfolk against the (((foreign contamination)))?! Oh, right -- you men were rolling in the free sex and no responsibility YOU (((were offered))) by the same source!!

But, boy, y'all are SURE happy to blame the women for the results of your OWN choices!

Ya'll seem happy to blame women, to castigate women, to separate FROM women -- and close your eyes to your OWN contribution to the destruction of our civilization!

You (we) will NEVER be able to FIX things, if you keep throwing the blame at women and pretending you were not JUST as brainwashed!


I think you need to check into going with a decaffeinated coffee. Or maybe cut back on hitting the pipe because you're a little tense and too easily riled up. Perhaps you could show me in my post where I blamed anybody? And as far as being just as deceived, I can admit it, but only for 1 or 2 years in the 70's before I realized that reality has certain verifiable laws under which it operates. The jewish fictions that tickle people's ears have nothing to do with a reality based system. Let me ask you this: Who was to blame? Adam, Eve, or Lucifer, and why?

Blogger S. Misanthrope November 22, 2017 4:51 PM  

Vox, I'm curious how you think high IQ women will manage to meet and breed with high IQ men if they don't go to college. I'd love to see as many people out of college as possible, as those institutions need to be destroyed and rebuilt, however I've also watched my high IQ college educated female friends consistently end up happily married to men they would not have met without either college or the high status job they got out of college. On the flip side, my high IQ male friends who don't settle down in college are perpetually frustrated with the impossibility of finding sufficiently intelligent women to settle down with or even tolerably date out in the world at large. All I can conclude is that it's mandatory to find a spouse in college and stick with it, at least for people say IQ 130 and up.

Blogger Clint November 22, 2017 5:34 PM  

S. Misanthrope wrote:Vox, I'm curious how you think high IQ women will manage to meet and breed with high IQ men if they don't go to college.

I met my intelligent wife at church. There are plenty of places to meet people.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 22, 2017 6:08 PM  

S. Misanthrope wrote:... my high IQ male friends who don't settle down in college are perpetually frustrated with the impossibility of finding sufficiently intelligent women to settle down with or even tolerably date ...

If they are bright enough to cook, clean and sew, what else do you really need?

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 22, 2017 6:43 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:S. Misanthrope wrote:... my high IQ male friends who don't settle down in college are perpetually frustrated with the impossibility of finding sufficiently intelligent women to settle down with or even tolerably date ...

If they are bright enough to cook, clean and sew, what else do you really need?




Good stock. Marrying a less intelligent woman means regression to the mean. want smart kids? Marry a smart girl.

Blogger xavier November 22, 2017 6:44 PM  

I've come to the conclusion after years of onservarion and exoerience that women don't really like going out to work.
In the end they realize it's really a man's world as work is physically and mentally delibitating, they have to surpress their nuturing instinct and basically misplace their stamina. Which makes them very unhappy and become bitch soured They're very reslient in home/school/volunteer areas of life which buold the connections for the family to advance.
I concour that women should marry young,have big families and still pursue their interests. How many mompreneurs have arisen thanks to being at home?
One last note having womwn at home would increase men's salaries since they would argue they have to raise a family so hogher pay is required

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 22, 2017 6:58 PM  

Spot on Xavier.

many men don't especially want to work either but will do so for a family. Take that away from them and guys like me will work less and less.

If society wants the resources we create , they are going to have pony up.

Of course the Left and its fellow travelers think that automation may well render the need for most men moot so they make policy that way.

Blogger LP9 November 22, 2017 7:15 PM  

What was she thinking? Is google hiring?

100 One aspect is the mindset that rules many boomers as I lost in court yesterday to 3 liars but did great in surgery at 5am at home on bed rest, so grateful.

I link (in my mind) this post to the matter of IQ, Americans fail to process or think thru their own choices and logic but most importantly is that children into age 25 DO NOT have the pre frontal cortex developed until 25, 26, in America with the culled IQ's; tv, music, media, casting couches and college are unsafe spaces for rape and mind rape.

I laughed when a few moves into life after 25, my degrees or papers all rotted molded, blah, blah, took a pic of them and tossed them, with no emotion along with resumes, letters, I dont need that in where I am now in life.

Sad for my parents that spent the money although we didnt go debts, just minor fees like a book or something like that only for 15 to 17 years later the SJWACA comes along and mows us down.

Blogger LP9 November 22, 2017 7:21 PM  

UC Berk in the late 80's and 90's was also predictive programming into TV per saved by the bell, a girl doesn't value her health but values this piece of paper. Wow.

The student really do live in their own world maybe I do in Appalachia.

Thanks for the prayers, 11/22nd surgery went great. Lost 11/21 court. All's well.

Blogger The Observer November 22, 2017 7:31 PM  

Vox, I'm curious how you think high IQ women will manage to meet and breed with high IQ men if they don't go to college.

Why, I don't know. However did men and women of high society and the elite meet each other before "muh higher educamasfcation" became a thing?

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 22, 2017 7:38 PM  

She sounds exactly like the type of person I would NEVER hire in a million years. She has anti-skills if anything. I'm extremely picky. Maybe that's a bad thing, but a single wrong pick can be devastatingly hard to get rid of and cause massive damage. No way I'd hire this girl.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 22, 2017 7:45 PM  

I detect some White Knighting going on as some of the comments appear a bit naive. Is it possible she has so.e useful skill? Yes, retail at 35K a year. The best option for her is to try very hard to become a good wife and mother.

Blogger wreckage November 22, 2017 8:06 PM  

If it's the lifestyle, a good marriage is an excellent choice. Ask any woman who married a good provider!

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 22, 2017 9:31 PM  

The Observer wrote:Vox, I'm curious how you think high IQ women will manage to meet and breed with high IQ men if they don't go to college.

Why, I don't know. However did men and women of high society and the elite meet each other before "muh higher educamasfcation" became a thing?


Arranged marriages. We don't much have that as a custom so its mostly not an option.

Anonymous CoolHand November 22, 2017 9:36 PM  

Groggy wrote:These people are due a modicum of sympathy.

They didn't create Social Justice.

They are victims of the web of lies they were indoctrinated into.


No, they're really not.

I know hundreds of people (AM one, actually) who spent their lives being told the exact same lies that she was, except none of us were stupid enough to buy into the con.

We're engineers and machinists and welders or cattle ranchers, one guy became a custom cabinet mogul. We build and create things and make money doing it.

She chose to destroy and divide and now she's finding out that nobody will pay you to do that for a living.

Fuck her, I hope she starves or has to marry a man she hates but is afraid of to keep from starving to death.

Nobody is served when everyone goes out of their way to make sure stupidity has no consequences.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs November 22, 2017 10:31 PM  

@20: That's my thought exactly. Forget her education, or lack thereof. Why would anyone hire a business consultant who has never run a business? I've never had kids. No sane parent would ask me for parenting advice (nor should they - kids are like dogs, right?).

If she wants to be a business consultant, I'd suggest she start a business. Work at it for several years, then sell or close it and repeat the whole process. A couple of iterations of starting and running her own business would look pretty good on a resume (especially if one did well).

Blogger maniacprovost November 22, 2017 10:44 PM  

I'm fascinated that an "extremely liberal/socialist" social worker thinks she can become a highly paid management consultant.

With corporations.

Because corporations love liberals and socialism and tax-supported outreach.

She's given me the courage to finally enter the Olympics next year.

Blogger Doom November 22, 2017 11:37 PM  

I love the company, when moderates and lefter shut up. He says, let her starve. He says, because corp's love liberals, and on. I love diversity, of this sort. No " burn the witch" yet, so add me to that pool. Not a damned thing wrong with right variances of opinion. Though as to anyone marrying her, that is just cruel. Imagine having that hagfish around your neck. Give me an albatross or loadstone and dip in the drink first, by far.

Blogger buscaraons November 23, 2017 1:05 AM  

@106 AB. Prsoper:

Thanks very much. It was a post by Edward Feser at his blog about complementarity that really helped gel my inchoate thoughts. I think husbands and wives are equal as long as they complement each other in life. I'm convinced that much of the marital discords/breakdowns/divorces stem from a confused application of equality and complementarity.
Complementing someone doesn't make you a slave but a very important partner in life.

I'm conflicted whereby I do support women working out of the home as it's a respectable choice. But in the end, I really think that the vast majority of them would be happier at home dealing with PTA meetings and running their mom companies.
They really become deeply melancholic when they go to office/factory work because they have to fight against their natures and it just burns them out with all of the negative consequences we've seen all our lives
xavier

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2017 1:16 AM  

AB.Prosper wrote:many men don't especially want to work either but will do so for a family. Take that away from them and guys like me will work less and less.
If society wants the resources we create , they are going to have pony up.

No, they'll import the top 0.5% of some hellhole 3rd world toilet to do the work. And they'll do a lousy job and screw everything up, but Hey! lookit the money they saved!

Anonymous map November 23, 2017 4:34 AM  

I don't understand...

Assuming the GPA and GMAT are true, she could have easily gained internships at Bain or similar companies during undergrad. The undergrad internships are not going to look askance at a gender studies degree.

People, you need to understand the value and importance of career tracking.

Right now, she is toast.

Blogger Otto Lamp November 23, 2017 9:15 AM  

"Assuming the GPA and GMAT are true"

A GPA of 3.94 in women's studies is different than a GPA of 3.94 in accounting, engineering, or even business.

Maybe be she does have a high IQ, but achieving that GPA in one of the easiest majors proves nothing about her IQ.

And, as even she has noticed, her major is proving to be an anchor, not an asset. It is working against her. Who really needs the headache of having a women's studies major on the staff?

Anonymous Nightowl2548 November 23, 2017 1:30 PM  

So wait, she's asian and her parents allowed her to get a useless degree in "gender studies?" I've never met an asian who was allowed by their parents to major in these fluff degrees. Their parents all push them into big money type programs like medicine with plans of living off their kids earnings like some pimp. Unlike whites, their parents don't give to their kids, they take from them.

Blogger J.M. November 26, 2017 12:29 AM  

AB.Prosper wrote:Good stock. Marrying a less intelligent woman means regression to the mean. want smart kids? Marry a smart girl.

Ladies and Gentlemen, one more reason the Western World is going down the sewer. Regression to the mean happens whether you marry a genius or a pretty but humble peasant girl, the only thing that changes are probabilities. Let's just say is the way of nature to put balance into the species, hence most 1-2 children per family arrangements of "highly intelligent" parents in the best cases raise equally intelligent children and normally if they have more than one, get one who is not as smart as his sibling(if he has any) or his/her parents. Your model just ensures most marriages are unhappy because in the real world most men DO NOT ENJOY discussing/arguing about technical stuff, politics, art or history with argumentative women.

At least most with experience in love...they know that no matter how pretty or smart a woman is, she still as solipsistic as the sexy bartender.

OpenID paulmurray November 29, 2017 12:39 AM  

@41 Don Renolds - "it is only when she worked in the larger world that she repudiated the deal as unrewarding."

She repudiated the deal when she realised that come the revolution she would wind up with less money than what she had with dear old daddy, or with a nice parasitical career in "Business Consultancy".

Do you suppose that she knows that "Business Consultants" are executioners? That their job is to fire people so that the company can keep its hands moderately clean?

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