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Wednesday, November 08, 2017

The cancer spreads in comics

This is MOST EXCELLENT news for the future prospects of  Alt★Hero.

Brian Michael Bendis, one of Marvel’s most prolific writers, is moving over to DC Comics. The news broke this morning via a tweet from DC Comics, which read, “We are beyond thrilled to welcome Brian Michael Bendis exclusively to the DC family with a multiyear, multifaceted deal.”

From Bleeding Cool:
The word is out and it hit with a bang. Brian Michael Bendis, who has been writing continuously for Marvel Comics since 2000 has signed an exclusive contract with DC Comics. But why. No doubt there will be PR-friendly soundbites with the words “challenge”, “fresh start”, or “a whole new universe of characters to play with” but from involved sources, Bleeding Cool has been able to put together this timeline. All of this is unofficial, of course.

Much of it was spurred by the Marvel Comics Writers Summit that occurred last month just before New York Comic-Con, which we dubbed Fear And Loathing Before NYCC 2017.

But first, what was going on with Bendis at Marvel? He was writing Jessica Jones, Guardians Of The Galaxy, Defenders, Spider-Man, Spider-Men II, Invincible Iron Man and Infamous Iron Man. He had written the Civil War II crossover event. But he deliberately stayed well away from Secret Empire. His books didn’t crossover with the big event, and Guardians only did when he left.

However his books weren’t getting the big numbers like they used to. And a number of them were subject to being later than usual. His contract was up, the likelihood of getting a raise was low. The Marvel Comics Creative Committee of which he played a strong part no longer had any influence on the films, after Kevin Feige at Marvel Studios stopped reporting to Ike Perlmutter but to Disney instead. Bendis, who wrote the first of the Marvel end credit scenes with Samuel Jackson as Nick Fury in Iron Man, was no longer a part of that mix. Bendis had written pretty much every Marvel character he was interested in – and there was no chance of Marvel publishing a Fantastic Four comic now.

So, the Marvel Comics Writers Summit, before New York Comic Con. We mentioned how the issue of increased diversity of Marvel Comics and how to deal with negative reaction towards that, was a significant aspect. I am told that Brian Bendis, creator of Miles Morales and Riri Williams, had quite the disagreement with David Gabriel, whose interview with Miles Griepp for ICV2 regarding diversity at the publisher needed repeated clarifications.

That there was a decision made to give the title called simply Spider-Man to the Peter Parker iteration of the character in 2018, rather than the current Miles Morales, which would become Miles Morales: Spider-Man again, a battle Bendis thought he had previously won for Marvel Legacy.

That Gabriel told Bendis that diversity doesn’t sell. The counter to that being, what does at Marvel aside from Dan Slott’s Amazing Spider-Man and Star Wars?
We're thrilled too. If Bendis succeeds in doing for DC Comics what he did for Marvel, the resulting vacuum is going to create an even bigger opportunity for alternative comics than we had previously imagined. Consider some of the comments by comics fans there.
  • Hope that Bendis won't destroy DC like he did Marvel.
  • Most of what I've picked up from dc over the past two years has been a worthwhile read. But I'd given up on marvel, in part because of how many series they've let bendis ruin. I'm really hoping dc doesn't pick the trash from marvel and end with the same bad books and terrible sales numbers.
  • DC went crazy! Bendis sucks!!!
  • Marvel is on a downward spiral, and Bendis doesn't want to be caught up in it. That, and he just doesn't have the pull he once had.
Jon Mollison has some related thoughts at Castalia House:
The flailing death throes of Marvel Comics represents only the latest softening of the permafrost. The phenomenal success of Alt★Hero represents the most obvious green shoot, but the most important sign of the coming spring is the reaction of fans to both events. No longer content to turn their backs on the cold and sterile offerings, comic book fans are turning up the heat and demanding better.

With the vast array of forces aligned against the common man, it is more important than ever that fans step back and reassess the history of the medium. Pushing back against the winds of winter and preparing the ground for the coming planting season takes some thought and effort, to be sure. But the rewards are well worth the effort. To that end, let’s turn the weapon of deconstruction around and use it against those who would replace genuine virtue in comics with the empty simulacrum of Diversity Uber Alles.

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107 Comments:

Blogger Howard Stone November 08, 2017 7:54 AM  

Get ready for Super Homeboy and The Bat Persons (A vigilante mob of antifa armed with Louisville Sluggers)

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 7:58 AM  

I think I read this one back in the 80s, when Marvel unleashed a mad assassin against villains.

Could this be the return of The Scourge of the Underworld?

Will DC survive?

*Justice is served!"

Blogger Howard Stone November 08, 2017 8:05 AM  

Bruce Wayne becomes the George Soros of the DC world and delightfully surprises everyone by pulling a Bruce Jenner. Lex Luther begins to don an all too familiar looking toupee while tweeting about nationalism and hinting at a presidential run, but not if Supermang can help it!

Blogger Howard Stone November 08, 2017 8:06 AM  

The Social Justice League.

Blogger Desdichado November 08, 2017 8:11 AM  

It's really weird. Bendis used to be good. His run on Ultimate Spider-man before he killed off Peter Parker was actually really excellent. When the New Avengers launched, it was good. Secret Invasion was (mostly) good. House of M was even intriguing. He really went off the deep end in 2010 or so in the lead up to replacing Parker with Miles Morales and never came back. But before that, he did some good work.

Anonymous Critically Bent November 08, 2017 8:14 AM  

What if someone wanted to start creating their own alternative comics, but didn't have a small Finnish publishing house and all the expertise that entails?

Any ideas on how one should go about that?

Blogger Silly but True November 08, 2017 8:14 AM  

The fact that Amazon is getting into the comics publishing business will be opposing pressure to Alt Comics for sure, but is a win.

Vox again displays his greatest strength: vision.

Amazon coming just after the overwhelming success and support of Alt Comics' validates the decision at the time it was made to pull the trigger.

You were right, Vox. You are right.

Again.

Anonymous Critically Bent November 08, 2017 8:17 AM  

By the way, that cover of Miles Morales really gets the gaypedoface and race mixture down perfectly. I wonder if they had a model or just created it from scratch.

I totally don't support the material, but the art execution there is just well done, to the point of looking like a parody almost.

Blogger The Observer November 08, 2017 8:19 AM  

Most excellent.

Given the gathering of so many elements into such a perfect storm, one might wonder if the divine had a hand in all this. One way or the other, it would not be a shame to exploit every single mistake to the fullest.

Looking forward to the announcements for the coming week you mentioned in yesterday's darkstream.

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira November 08, 2017 8:22 AM  

Can't wait to watch DC crumble, too. I will dance in the ashes.

Anonymous SciVo de Plorable November 08, 2017 8:37 AM  

Desdichado wrote:It's really weird. Bendis used to be good.

Without doing any research on him, that kind of statement almost always goes back to a woman.

Anonymous Looking Glass November 08, 2017 8:43 AM  

We're one step closer to Vox writing a mini-series of Batman.

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 8:43 AM  

Let's hope (((Brian Bendis))) continues his SJW destruction and lies at his new employer, eh?

Blogger Silly but True November 08, 2017 8:49 AM  

After inventing Miles Morales at Marvel because a suitable black superhero didn't exist, I eagerly look forward to Bendis taking on...
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/ee/5e/b1/ee5eb1cac688ae924e041f46db92558f--and-dresses-superheroes.jpg

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 8:55 AM  

It's not hard to understand why he's been doing what he's doing. He's a Jewish writer with one biological kid and three adopted African kids.

It's much the same reason Bill Simmons became the world's most unlikely advocate of women's sports. Very few men have sufficient intellectual integrity to withstand their own identity complications.

Anonymous every single time November 08, 2017 8:57 AM  

Every. Single. Time. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/bendis.html

Blogger Brad Matthews November 08, 2017 8:59 AM  

So excited:

Superperson
Martian Person Hunter
The Gay Lantern
Wonder Person
Aquaperson
The Flesh
Batperson
Hawkperson

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 9:00 AM  

Speaking of every single time: "I think about my upbringing with a single mother -- I have father issues."

You don't say. He's absolutely going to double down at DC. No question.

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 9:01 AM  

Martian Person Hunter

That's problematic. It should be Planetary Person Photographer.

Blogger Brad Matthews November 08, 2017 9:08 AM  

True, Martian is specist and Hunter could be construed as too masculine

Blogger L' Aristokrato November 08, 2017 9:08 AM  

We can make a bingo game, or something like it, out of this:

Which character Bendis will turn Black?
Which female White character will Bendis put in a relationship with a Black guy?
Which existing Black character will Bendis make into his personal pet Mary-Sue?

On the plus side, if you're into cuckold porn, DC is more than ever for you!

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 9:12 AM  

Very few men have sufficient intellectual integrity to withstand their own identity complications.

Apparently their solipsistic and world-view is such that they would rather insist that the entire cosmos be reorganised such that their own abnormalities are no longer abnormalities. They yearn for there to be no such thing as a norm so that anything is normal, nothing is abnormal and everybody can get a trophy.

A laudably humble approach is that taken by for example Milo who accepts that his homosexuality is an abnormality and a path he went down willingly as an act of rebellion against his mother to shock and dismay her. But as a Christian man he admits that it is not normal and does not seek to have the cosmos reorganised to make his own abnormality become the new norm just to suit himself.

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 9:16 AM  

It's really weird. Bendis used to be good. His run on Ultimate Spider-man before he killed off Peter Parker was actually really excellent.

I would have thought that for a writer for Spider-Man that killing off Peter Parker - who is actually Spider-Man - would be considered a faux-pas in the Spider-Man-writing business. Perhaps it's just me.

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 9:23 AM  

I suspect he specifically killed off Peter Parker because he was a white man and he wanted to replaced him with a Spider-Man 'of Color'.

The level of cucking that this (((Bendis))) is able to achieve is... impressive.
It is not often that your regular household-grade cuck is able to kill off an American icon and do what he is done.
He deserves to go in some sort of hall of fame for his Olympic-level cuck-skills.

Blogger Howard Stone November 08, 2017 9:24 AM  

@L’ Aristokrato,

To answer all your questions: Superman. They’re going to Wolverine Batman. Nuff Said.

Anonymous Causal Lurker November 08, 2017 9:30 AM  

SirGroggy,

He earned the nickel-plated impalement pole, with extra ridges.

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 08, 2017 9:41 AM  

"That, and he just doesn't have the pull he once had."

Once, he was new and shiny, and the tune he played tugged at the heartstrings of every wannabe SJW who could envision a brave new world of strong diversity and tranny heroics and unicorn farts cleansing the corridors of power.

Now, 17 years later, the alert observer knows that what he does destroys wealth, destroys businesses, destroys markets, destroys customer loyalty, destroys culture, destroys whole industries.

Only those people who WANT these things happening are going to pay him to do it again, or be excited about him being paid to do it again.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 08, 2017 9:43 AM  

I fully support the Jewish struggle to leave their "whiteness."

Give the Left what they ask for and deserve, good and very, very hard.

Anonymous Denny November 08, 2017 9:47 AM  

DC is already converged in every aspect, from their comics to their television offerings. I watched an episode of “Supergirl” the other day and it literally plays like SJW bingo. Jimmy Olsen is black, Supergirl’s sister is in a lesbian relationship with a Mexican woman whose father is afraid people are going to “throw him over the wall.” President is a female alien who fights to keep Earth a “safe and accepting” place for other aliens (even though their own narrative consistently shows the stupidity of this by having every alien race be hostile conquerors) and there is a Trump-esque billionaire pol with a Richard Spencer haircut. “Arrow” punted Oliver Queen to the side in favor of a black Green Arrow who roams the streets with three PoC’s, one of whom is gay. The comics aren’t much better; Batgirl has a transgendered roommate, Aquaman is about to have a storyline where he leads a “resistance” against some villain who’s building walls in Atlantis. Fucking Atlantis…how exactly a wall works in Atlantis is anyone’s guess. Bendis is only going to accelerate the convergence that’s already well-established at this company. Now I’m really hoping Justice League bites the curb next week. I haven’t looked into it but I’m sure it’ll be a cuckfest as well, especially with Joss Whedon on board (this is the guy who last month announced he was doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer spinoff comic for Dark Horse, set in a “diverse” LA high school and co-written by “A Diferent World” actress Erika Alexander.) Alt-Hero honestly couldn’t have come at a better time.

Blogger Wuzzums Fuzzums November 08, 2017 9:48 AM  

He didn't kill off Peter Parker. He turned him into a half Hispanic half black kid. Miles and Peter are the same character. Spiderman does not work as an adult, does not work as a different character, he only works as teenage Peter Parker. Miles works as Spiderman because he is Peter Parker under a different package.

Blogger Mocheirge November 08, 2017 9:51 AM  

"Martian Person Hunter

That's problematic. It should be Planetary Person Photographer."

The word perSON is extremely problematic. It implies embryonic toxic masculinity. It needs to be degendered to "Persxn".

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 08, 2017 9:54 AM  

It figures the only place "diversity" works is in comics. Outside in Realville one only has to ask of the diversity totems what exactly are their virtues and outside of some racial tribalism there is scant evidence the diversity has any virtues.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 08, 2017 9:57 AM  

@5

"Secret Invasion was (mostly) good."

Nah, man. Secret Invasion was completely stupid. I mean, to be fair, it had all the potential for an epic storyline... but God DAMN IT! Why did Queen Veranke and the rest of her Skrull underlings just have to be all mustache twirlingly evil and reveal their plans to the wrong people at the wrong moment(s)? They literally had earth by the ball hairs but like every single Skrull stealth invasion of earth beforehand, they just couldn't hold back what kind of boastful dicks they were until they conquered everything for sure. I mean, Jesus, they had perfected shapeshifting and infiltration to such a degree that they could spoof DR. STRANGE'S absurdly powerful magic spells and even their own operatives didn't know they were operatives and you couldn't read their minds to see because they genuinely did think they were who they thought they were most of the time. How do you lose something like that!? I mean, to be fair, I don't see how you could get out of something like that and make that saving throw (RPG term) enjoyable, sensical, or not obvious, but dude! It's like... it's like Queen Veranke was Hillary during the election she couldn't hold in her evil long enough and messed up so badly! I mean, you have to mess up pretty badly when Norman Osborone takes you out with a 9mm millimeter head-shot and then proceeds to somehow become head of SHIELD or a successor organization (can't exactly remember which, but then again, I don't want to because Secret Invasion was such an awesome idea executed to poorly).

Blogger 4499 November 08, 2017 9:57 AM  

Planetary Carbon Unit Photographer.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope November 08, 2017 9:58 AM  

Whose picture did they photoshop onto Spiderman's body? Whoever that is, they look creepy and I'd be very leery of leaving any children around them for too long.

I know I'm not up to date on the latest Hollywood stars, but seriously, who is that person? It reminds me of the pictures of Elizabeth Warren photoshopped onto Pocahonta's body. It is comical because it so obviously doesn't belong with the body.

Anonymous Viiidad November 08, 2017 10:03 AM  

4499 wrote:Planetary Carbon Unit Photographer.

Wow. That's really triggering to silicon-based units. Be more inclusive, you RSHD!

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 10:06 AM  

It works this way, when cancer has turned one organ into a husk of itself, then it is time to move onto another sick organ to finish that one off too.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 08, 2017 10:07 AM  

@24

Yeah... the thing about him killing off Peter... was that he did it... in the ULTIMATE Universe, not the main, 616 Universe, though there was a time when the Ultimate Universe was quite popular, as in, significantly more popular than the 616 Universe was... at least in the early 2000's. So, yeah, he got away with that easily because the Ultimate Universe kind of was meant (initially) as a place for writers to go crazy and diverge a lot and makes lots of differences (some interesting, some good, some ridiculously awful, and some sad) from 616 to their heart's content without a lot of consequences.

And then 2015's Secret War or Secret Wars happened and I think 616 and the Ultimate Universe merged or some elements of the Ultimate Universe were transplanted into the mainline universe, like Miles Morales or stuff. I dunno. Again: years since I kept up with current events in 616 or the Ultimate Universe (which I never really bothered to delve that much into because... Scarlet Witch's and Quicksilver's relationship there).

Blogger Desdichado November 08, 2017 10:08 AM  

SirGroggy wrote:I suspect he specifically killed off Peter Parker because he was a white man and he wanted to replaced him with a Spider-Man 'of Color'.

The level of cucking that this (((Bendis))) is able to achieve is... impressive.

It is not often that your regular household-grade cuck is able to kill off an American icon and do what he is done.

He deserves to go in some sort of hall of fame for his Olympic-level cuck-skills.

That's exactly what he did, in 2010 or 11 or so. There was this big exciting announcement about how the NEW Spider-man was going to be black-hispanic (kind of like George Zimmerman, I suspect, yet apparently much more gay). And then, they were all butt-hurt that everyone accused them of just swapping out Peter Parker for black-hispanic ersatz Peter Parker. "No, that's not what we're going, even though we literally just announced that that's exactly what we're doing. Please read it, I promise it won't suck." Of course, it did.

And they tried to play around with the split that they had at the time between "standard" Marvel and "Ultimate" Marvel, and tell us that whiny 30-year old man-baby Peter Parker from the standard Marvel timeline still wasn't dead, so suck it, all you people who actually liked teenager Peter Parker all over again.

Although they still haven't admitted it yet (because SJWADD) it was a huge PR disaster, and a major step in the overt infestation of Marvel by SJWism.

Blogger LP9 November 08, 2017 10:12 AM  

Forgive me but can someone please tell me if the graphic is real, is that the real new hero he's designed? Literally?

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Fine Purveyor of Quality Artisanal Gorm ) November 08, 2017 10:12 AM  

36. Viiidad November 08, 2017 10:03 AM
Wow. That's really triggering to silicon-based units. Be more inclusive, you RSHD!


why you gotta be all Lifeist like that? inanimate objects have been oppressed for to long.

and just wait until the Metaphysicals show up!

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum November 08, 2017 10:14 AM  

Bendis used to be good.

I have a full set of his Daredevil run with Alex Maleev, which was his second big Marvel breakout. No social justice wankery to be found, just good stories. But Bendis had only one (natural) child at that point, and she would have been very young.

I think Vox has the motivation for nu-Bendis nailed, but even so, the change is extreme.

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 10:15 AM  

Justice League = Social Justice Warrior League...Coming Soon.

Blogger Bob Loblaw November 08, 2017 10:20 AM  

What could DC be thinking here? As they watch Marvel crash and burn their first thought is "let's do that too"?

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 10:20 AM  

"Bendis used to be good."

Shrewish SJWs need to be in stealth mode, at first. One has to test the waters.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum November 08, 2017 10:21 AM  

Oh, wait ... he was ALWAYS a race mixer, just not in Daredevil. Alias was all about his fascination with Luke Cage, and he paired Cage with Jessica Jones.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 08, 2017 10:23 AM  

@30

"He didn't kill off Peter Parker. He turned him into a half Hispanic half black kid."

Wrong. He killed off the Ultimate Universe version of Peter and now Miles is in the 616 universe because of some big event comic. While Peter isn't dead in 616 *physically*, it was Dan Slott who really killed him really with his still ongoing, awful run.


"Miles and Peter are the same character."


That's more or less true.


"Spiderman does not work as an adult..."


That's a load of shit and it's shit like that that lead to One More Day. Congrats! You're line of thinking lead to Peter giving up his marriage to Mephisto to save his dying Aunt in one of the most contrived devil's bargains ever written by an asshole, Jose Quesada (though I like to call him Jose Quesadilla because if he can't be bothered to respect people who like escapist and fantastical works, then I have no obligation to not call him a fucking bean eating spic even though I too am one), who fucking hates his medium's customers about as much if not more so than Alan fucking Moore does.


"does not work as a different character..."

Don't know what that means, though, Spider-Man noir would like a word with you.


"he only works as teenage Peter Parker."

See my above rant as to why this is bullshit. But in short, his character growth and development from a teenage boy to a grown man with a loving Wife, while not perfect and often times nonsensical it at least his money problems, was good, needed, made sense, and was interesting. A lot more so than the stereotypical teen drama you and Jose Quesada would love to relegate Peter to for an eternity in purgatory if you could even though it's a long standing fact in superhero comics that continuity is a thing and character do develop, get older, get new jobs, get a wife, get kids, and all the 'boring' adult stuff that you or I would have to deal with.

Blogger marco moltisanti November 08, 2017 10:23 AM  

Dave Sim, who self published 300 issues of Cerebus over the course of something like 30 years did a guide to creating self published comics. It's about fifteen years old but probably still has good info. Looks like it was actually updated in 2010:

https://sellfy.com/p/teWL/

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 10:26 AM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:What could DC be thinking here? As they watch Marvel crash and burn their first thought is "let's do that too"?

WRONG QUESTION.

Correct question would be, "How many SJWs are already in place at DC?" Then, "How motivated are those SJWs that are in place to take things several step further?"

The right questions always have the answers built right into them.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 10:35 AM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:@30

"He didn't kill off Peter Parker. He turned him into a half Hispanic half black kid."

Wrong. He killed off the Ultimate Universe version of Peter and now Miles is in the 616 universe because of some big event comic. While Peter isn't dead in 616 *physically*, it was Dan Slott who really killed him really with his still ongoing, awful run.

"Miles and Peter are the same character."

That's more or less true.

"Spiderman does not work as an adult..."

That's a load of shit and it's shit like that that lead to One More Day. Congrats! You're line of thinking lead to Peter giving up his marriage to Mephisto to save his dying Aunt in one of the most contrived devil's bargains ever written by an asshole, Jose Quesada (though I like to call him Jose Quesadilla because if he can't be bothered to respect people who like escapist and fantastical works, then I have no obligation to not call him a fucking bean eating spic even though I too am one), who fucking hates his medium's customers about as much if not more so than Alan fucking Moore does.

"does not work as a different character..."

Don't know what that means, though, Spider-Man noir would like a word with you.

"he only works as teenage Peter Parker."

See my above rant as to why this is bullshit. But in short, his character growth and development from a teenage boy to a grown man with a loving Wife, while not perfect and often times nonsensical it at least his money problems, was good, needed, made sense, and was interesting. A lot more so than the stereotypical teen drama you and Jose Quesada would love to relegate Peter to for an eternity in purgatory if you could even though it's a long standing fact in superhero comics that continuity is a thing and character do develop, get older, get new jobs, get a wife, get kids, and all the 'boring' adult stuff that you or I would have to deal with.


Epic, @47 Emmanuel. Did you use laser targeting on that strike, or are you just that focused?

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 08, 2017 10:35 AM  

"so suck it, all you people who actually liked teenager Peter Parker all over again."

Motherfucker, what about all those people who actually LIKED adult Peter Parker trying to make it in the world and mature, huh? You do realize, even before One More Day completely ruined Spidey and his character and stuff that Peter literally hadn't been a teenager FOR DECADES at that point, right? I mean for fuck's sake, Peter as an adult wasn't always a whiny man child, he was WRITTEN that way in complete contradiction to what was going on and what had happened before because of a bad Editorial Mandate that wanted him essentially being as annoying as he was as a teenager as an adult! For fuck's sake, what makes being a whiny man child any less annoying when you're teenager than when you're an adult who should know better, actually does no better, but then is written to act like a teenager again!? By your own logic, Dick Grayson should have never developed into Nightwing and try and strike it out on his own as a superhero and found the Teen Titans until it eventually just became The Titans because most of the members were now in their 20's because he always should have been just a whiny teenager who never should have even tried to develop beyond that! I want Spider-Man and Mary Jane married again! I want Spider-Man learning to solve his money problems like a smart adult again, especially when he has numerous favors and constantly rubs shoulders with very powerful and rich people for all the times he's played hand in saving NYC, the country, the world, the galaxy, and the universe and multiverse itself! I wanted character growth and development! I do not wish to see Spider-Man stuck in the same high-school teenage drama setting pop culture seems desperate to always keep him in FOREVER. I have nothing against him starting there and working his way up, but he cannot be stuck there all the time! He is a SPIDER-MAN, not a SPIDER-BOY!

Anonymous Yann November 08, 2017 10:39 AM  

We're thrilled too. If Bendis succeeds in doing for DC Comics what he did for Marvel, the resulting vacuum is going to create an even bigger opportunity for alternative comics than we had previously imagined.

Yeap, but you need to think in terms of marketing.

Peop`le want comics that convey traditional non-SJW values, but they're tired of politics. The want it SUBTLE.

In my opinion (subjective), the ones that will win the market will be comics with the Alt-Hero values, but in a subtle way, without a plain-sight political agenda. People has grown sick of political agendas. They want to go back to what comics were in the 60s to 80s.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 10:43 AM  

In the 1980s, Peter Parker wasn't a teenager. He was a witty, good natured man with a fiancee, a job and a secret. The secret was compounded when his cool new alien suit wasn't exactly what it appeared to be...

The only time I ever recognized Peter Parker as a teenager in turmoil was when they reprinted or highlighted his origin story on special occasions, and even then, he still identified as a good-natured man with a lot of responsibilities, not a kid.

Blogger Student in Blue November 08, 2017 10:43 AM  

@1. Howard Stone
Get ready for Super Homeboy and The Bat Persons

A Super Dope Homeboy from the Oaktown?

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 10:46 AM  

What right does a pasty white like Bendis have in coopting the identities of POC anyhow?

Or, in the immortal words of Marvin Harrison, "I didn't even know he was mixed."

Blogger Student in Blue November 08, 2017 10:48 AM  

@21. L' Aristokrato
Which existing Black character will Bendis make into his personal pet Mary-Sue?

Oh hell, Bendis is going to ruin Black Mamba, isn't he?

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 10:48 AM  

Oh wait. I guess I meant (((Bendis.)))

I apologize for using the "white" epithet to refer to such an upstanding member of the Minority Majority.

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 10:51 AM  

Yann wrote:We're thrilled too. If Bendis succeeds in doing for DC Comics what he did for Marvel, the resulting vacuum is going to create an even bigger opportunity for alternative comics than we had previously imagined.

Yeap, but you need to think in terms of marketing.

Peop`le want comics that convey traditional non-SJW values, but they're tired of politics. The want it SUBTLE.

In my opinion (subjective), the ones that will win the market will be comics with the Alt-Hero values, but in a subtle way, without a plain-sight political agenda. People has grown sick of political agendas. They want to go back to what comics were in the 60s to 80s.


Tiresome argument. Reading between the lines = Intelligence.

Alt*Hero will offer both, Chuck for the old style, and Vox for the good stories, but sometimes political. We shall see what people REALLY WANT. There a certain groups that will want Vox's style more, including me, but I will enjoy Dixon's stories too.

Blogger LP9 November 08, 2017 10:51 AM  

Wow, I'm shocked.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 08, 2017 10:54 AM  


...We'd see Superman turned into Superintersectionaltransbeing within the year. Xhe would have no adventures but would cry a lot.

And maybe punch Donald Trump.


I said this yesterday.

Only. Yesterday.

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 11:05 AM  

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Anonymous patrick kelly November 08, 2017 11:19 AM  

"Very few men have sufficient intellectual integrity to withstand their own identity complications."

Guilty, but I'm aware and fight these tendencies every day.

Anonymous jacopo November 08, 2017 11:20 AM  

In the pages of the Gotham Globe, Dick Grayson, retconned as a Syrian refugee, accuses Bruce Wayne of molesting him when he was 14. Bruce Wayne comes out as gay and reveals he is Batman on Twitter.

Anonymous patrick kelly November 08, 2017 11:23 AM  

"Spiderman does not work as an adult, does not work as a different character, he only works as teenage Peter Parker."

WTF? Are you 12?
The Peter Parker I remember watching on Saturday mornings in the dark ages was a young adult, not a teenager.

Blogger Brad Matthews November 08, 2017 11:26 AM  

Damn, you're right.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit November 08, 2017 11:37 AM  

@6 What if someone wanted to start creating their own alternative comics, [ ... ] Any ideas on how one should go about that?

You could do what Quizzer & I did and just jump in with both feet and learn by doing. Heh. Otherwise:

Learn to write for comics. Seriously, you can survive great writing with mediocre art better than the reverse. See Scott Kurtz's Player vs. Player archives (http://pvponline.com/comic/archive/1998/05) for his first comic in the '90s vs. now.

Find friends in the field doing comics that you can connect with for inspiration and support. There's a reason lefties have been so effective in dominating the storytelling arts, because they use shunning and blacklisting to force non-lefties to work in isolation. I don't have such a group, myself, but Mad Genius Club (https://madgeniusclub.com/) is a good approximation.

If you're in the Anglo-sphere, here are some books that might get you started: they're available from your public library, either on-site or via something called "Inter-Library Loan." You've already paid for these books with your taxes, and at most ILL will charge you postage; though many libraries will give you 5 - 20 free hits a year.

Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud.
The gold standard for sequential art storytelling. It's written more for artists than writers
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/102920.Understanding_Comics?from_search=true

Build Your Own Website
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17802527-build-your-own-website
This is written for teens, so it assumes you know nothing at all about any of the topics (Wordpress, CSS, etc.)

How to Make Webcomics
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2251815.How_To_Make_Webcomics?from_search=true
This is dated (2008) but the advice is solid, and best of all the pros involved wrote this before any of them went off the SJW deep end (some are still teetering on the edge, trying not to get eaten.)

Finally: Draw With Jazza has good practical inspiration/advice for artists (https://www.youtube.com/user/DrawWithJazza) and I found this just noodling around the interwebs: http://chrisoatley.com/how-to-write-a-comic-book-script/

Godspeed.

Blogger Desdichado November 08, 2017 11:45 AM  

@52. By my logic, the fact that Spider-man had put out—what, about twenty-two pages or so of comic book action once a month for decades still only means that they told the equivalent of a couple of months of his teenage life. There was plenty more to go.

Besides, I was always a fan of the Mack Bolan and Hardy Boys style books where plot was more important than meta character development.

Blogger The Overgrown Hobbit November 08, 2017 12:05 PM  

@52 Peop`le want comics that convey traditional non-SJW values, but they're tired of politics. The want it SUBTLE.

In my opinion (subjective), the ones that will win the market will be comics with the Alt-Hero values, but in a subtle way, without a plain-sight political agenda. People has grown sick of political agendas. They want to go back to what comics were in the 60s to 80s.


Ya, think? Hellooooo manga.

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 12:22 PM  

Yeap, but you need to think in terms of marketing.

You're astonishingly stupid if you think we're not doing that. How do you think we got the SJWs to advertise for us.

People want comics that convey traditional non-SJW values, but they're tired of politics. The want it SUBTLE.

Ah yes, the eternal cry of the moderate. "Don't fight back and you'll win for sure!"

In my opinion (subjective), the ones that will win the market will be comics with the Alt-Hero values, but in a subtle way, without a plain-sight political agenda. People has grown sick of political agendas. They want to go back to what comics were in the 60s to 80s.

Then prove it. Do a kickstarter. See how you do compared to Alt★Hero. You THINK there is a market for your bland, no politics comics, but we KNOW there is a market for our SJW-triggering comics.

Anonymous GregMan November 08, 2017 12:30 PM  

So DC hired the SJW who gave us SpiderNig and Nig Fury? Brilliant. Now Superman becomes Superxir, the Metal Men become the Metal Persons, Batman becomes a pedo who bangs Damien (who loves it), and Power Girl goes flat because huge breasts are Triggering or some such nonsense. Can't wait.

Blogger horsewithnonick November 08, 2017 12:35 PM  

Only he's not.

'Peter Parker' is not merely some package of teenage-angst issues, able to be applied like an overlay to a new, darker-skinned blank slate.

Peter Parker gained fantastic abilities, and learned, at great personal cost, that he had a moral obligation to use those abilities to help people.

Peter Parker fell in love with a girl, fought with all his might to save her from a madman... and failed tragically.

Peter Parker fought that same madman - who also happened to be his best friend's father - to the death, and then hid all evidence of his foe's villainy rather than put his friend through the trauma of his father's exposure.

Peter Parker fought monsters, while cracking jokes, and very often also while fighting to save the good men inside of those monsters.

To chuck him overboard, because someone doesn't know how to write him as an adult, and present some new kid as "Peter Parker under a different package" is the deadliest insult, to the character and to his fans. It will never be forgiven.

Blogger tz November 08, 2017 12:51 PM  

Meanwhile, SJWs have The Maker Space And already got an apology.

Blogger Lovekraft November 08, 2017 12:52 PM  

@ 29 Denny: I knew DC was infected, but not to this extent.

@63 jacopo: Lolzol!

I 'member a new and annoying group of comic fans in the late 80s were the Neil Gaiman "Sandman" fans who would talk with a lisp and act effeminate. Take it outside, fairy boy, we're talking whether Hulk could beat up Thor in here! Sort of like Harry Potter fans. Weirdly giddy. Then we had the horrible 90s and 00s where every week, someone needs to tell us they are gay or lesbian (yeah, talking to you "Sir" Ian McClennan and Patrick Stewart. No one cares).

I remember, before Mark Millar's "Old Man Logan" arc came out, there was a comics blog asking 'how do you kill Wolverline?" Standard answers: drop him in cement, acid etc.

I submitted: 'take away his will to fight.'

Read OML and tell me I didn't nail that one.

Heard recently that Italy comic book stores are giving Marvel the fungool for pushing crap product. Sorry, can't find link.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 08, 2017 12:58 PM  

Is that actual cover art? It stinks. Anatomical proportions not quite right, pose wrong like "Attack of the 30 foot POC" bad. It's gotta be fan art, not serious. The photoshopped black gaypedoface is good, though.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 1:06 PM  

Permanent teenager is a Charlie Sheen thing...

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 08, 2017 1:28 PM  

To write Peter Parker you need to be able to write jokes. Good jokes that can make the audience laugh and drive the bad guys batty.

SJW crap is easier to write. Just assume your character is like you and would make the dumbest, cuckiest decision in any situation. Look at America Chavez if you can stand it.

Comedy is hard it's impossible if you're a humorless sjw scold.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 08, 2017 1:39 PM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:To write Peter Parker you need to be able to write jokes.

Yep. The one-liner is the character, and the range for missed jokes is very narrow. This is why SNL sucks so bad, and Spider-Man is ruined. Comedy is too dangerous for those cowards.

Spider-Man has a good life with some serious problems. He's not a brooding vigilante. He's a 90-lb. weakling whose been given the "burden" of superpowers and sarcasm. Damn right he's a hero, and happy for the opportunity.

Anonymous patrick kelly November 08, 2017 1:48 PM  

"Meanwhile, SJWs have The Maker Space And already got an apology."

Wow, what a mental masturbation fest.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 08, 2017 2:08 PM  

Maybe DC wants to align their comics with the hideousness of their TV shows.

Flash is speeding headlong into total SJW convergence.

Replace Iris with black woman - CHECK
Make Iris Barrys "sister" - CHECK
have incestuous romance - CHECK
make entire episodes about virtue signalling - CHECK
Bring the biggest nag ever seen from Arrow to Flash so she can nag for 2 hours a week, instead of just one - CHECK
#Femism - CHECK

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 08, 2017 2:11 PM  

Spiderman is basically just a glorified burglar, so making him white was cultural appropriation.

Anonymous Nathan November 08, 2017 2:29 PM  

The face on that Spiderman cover looks like a palette swap of Squirrel Girl.

Anonymous John VI November 08, 2017 2:29 PM  

When I spoke to my pusher at the time about it, he said no one bought the ultimate universe issues anyway. They did the usual routine where everyone buys issue 1 of Thorette
In case it goes up in value and not anymore. Same with death of spiderman, intro to miles, etc. Sales of the issue spike on investment speculation then die.

Same thing will happen at DC.

Anonymous CPEG November 08, 2017 3:07 PM  

"Peop`le want comics that convey traditional non-SJW values, but they're tired of politics. The want it SUBTLE."

Perhaps you do. I do not. I am not tired of politics, so I do not desire escapism. I am tired of lies, so I desire truth.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 08, 2017 3:29 PM  

I could not care less about the 'rees'. I want good comics. If they come with some politics, fine. If they do not, also fine.

What marvel has done to comics can be undone. You can run comics with patriotic values. You can do it without beating people over the head with feminism, leftoid junk, race obsession, and sjw pandering. Marvel could make money hand over fist doing it. But they don't they leave y that money on the table.

Now someone is coming to take that money and give people what they want. That's what the sjws hate most. They couldn't get that money with a near monopoly and a coercive distribution system, compliant media and big money tie ins.

Now they see Joe average can hire Chuck Dixon. The big two were sure they had it sewed up. If this cracks it like Fox did news it will scoop up most of the audience and leave the big two as just names. Only ideological leftists get their news from CNN. Only pensioners trust abc, cbs,etc.

I'm waiting to see who Chuck creates. It will be glorious.

Anonymous Denny November 08, 2017 3:42 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Maybe DC wants to align their comics with the hideousness of their TV shows.

Flash is speeding headlong into total SJW convergence.

Replace Iris with black woman - CHECK

Make Iris Barrys "sister" - CHECK

have incestuous romance - CHECK

make entire episodes about virtue signalling - CHECK

Bring the biggest nag ever seen from Arrow to Flash so she can nag for 2 hours a week, instead of just one - CHECK

#Femism - CHECK


I think having Iris be black makes the "incest" part less creepy, because her race is a visual reminder that they're not *actually* related.

Blogger David The Good November 08, 2017 4:19 PM  

@The Overgrown Hobbit

Great comment - you gave plenty of info for those wishing to jump in. A+++

Blogger Matt November 08, 2017 4:21 PM  

Grant Morrison or bust.

Blogger tuberman November 08, 2017 4:55 PM  

66. The Overgrown Hobbit,

Yes, Thanks, I will look into this material too.

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 08, 2017 5:22 PM  

Writing a comic script isn't hard, I've done it myself. Writing a good one people want to buy ? That takes talent

Art? That's damned hard.

Blogger Gromm November 08, 2017 5:26 PM  

"The Social Justice League" so much win and lose in that comment. God help Supes and Bats now.

Anonymous BBGKB November 08, 2017 5:33 PM  

The Social Justice League.

Actually exists. I followed this comic for years thinking it was a parody of feminism, only to recently realize it was an actual feminist comic.
http://www.gynostar.com/archives/comic/the-just-us-league

Anonymous Mathias November 08, 2017 5:39 PM  

@91,

... I cannot tell if it's a parody or serious. How did you decide which it was?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan November 08, 2017 6:20 PM  

Social Justice the last gasp of relevance for fat white trash.

Blogger Elizabeth November 08, 2017 7:08 PM  

horsewithnonick wrote:Only he's not.

'Peter Parker' is not merely some package of teenage-angst issues, able to be applied like an overlay to a new, darker-skinned blank slate.

Peter Parker gained fantastic abilities, and learned, at great personal cost, that he had a moral obligation to use those abilities to help people.

Peter Parker fell in love with a girl, fought with all his might to save her from a madman... and failed tragically.

Peter Parker fought that same madman - who also happened to be his best friend's father - to the death, and then hid all evidence of his foe's villainy rather than put his friend through the trauma of his father's exposure.

Peter Parker fought monsters, while cracking jokes, and very often also while fighting to save the good men inside of those monsters.

To chuck him overboard, because someone doesn't know how to write him as an adult, and present some new kid as "Peter Parker under a different package" is the deadliest insult, to the character and to his fans. It will never be forgiven.


How many people, except the most ardent SJWs, really believe that a black-Hispanic superhero would use his powers for good and not for evil, to serve others and not to serve himself? I think that most people realize that whites are more altruistic by nature and more likely to help others, even strangers.

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 7:25 PM  

Denny wrote:DC is already converged in every aspect, from their comics to their television offerings. I watched an episode of “Supergirl” the other day and it literally plays like SJW bingo. Jimmy Olsen is black, Supergirl’s sister is in a lesbian relationship with a Mexican woman whose father is afraid people are going to “throw him over the wall.” President is a female alien who fights to keep Earth a “safe and accepting” place for other aliens (even though their own narrative consistently shows the stupidity of this by having every alien race be hostile conquerors) and there is a Trump-esque billionaire pol with a Richard Spencer haircut. “Arrow” punted Oliver Queen to the side in favor of a black Green Arrow who roams the streets with three PoC’s, one of whom is gay. The comics aren’t much better; Batgirl has a transgendered roommate, Aquaman is about to have a storyline where he leads a “resistance” against some villain who’s building walls in Atlantis. Fucking Atlantis…how exactly a wall works in Atlantis is anyone’s guess. Bendis is only going to accelerate the convergence that’s already well-established at this company. Now I’m really hoping Justice League bites the curb next week. I haven’t looked into it but I’m sure it’ll be a cuckfest as well, especially with Joss Whedon on board (this is the guy who last month announced he was doing a Buffy the Vampire Slayer spinoff comic for Dark Horse, set in a “diverse” LA high school and co-written by “A Diferent World” actress Erika Alexander.) Alt-Hero honestly couldn’t have come at a better time.

Pure evil. They hate everything that is good and seek to destroy it.

Blogger SirGroggy November 08, 2017 7:31 PM  

SJW crap is easier to write.

The wide road to destruction is easy and few will take the straight and narrow path.

Now the culture itself is being taken over by those who wish to endlessly extol and promote the wide road to diversity, equity and inclusiveness. Which is a lie - it is the wide road to destruction of the West - and they know it, for they work in the service of their father the devil.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 08, 2017 8:50 PM  

@66 The Overgrown Hobbitt
"Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud.
The gold standard for sequential art storytelling. It's written more for artists than writers"


No. McCloud is ok, but he's weak sauce compared to the masters of the medium.

Will Eisner
John Buscema
Wally Wood - 22 panels that always work
Anything by Steve Ditko in the 50s, 60, and 70s - Master of the 5-page Thriller, Father of Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, the Question, and Mr. A

Learn from the Masters.

Anonymous Deplorable me November 08, 2017 9:08 PM  

For artists: anything by Hogarth (i.e., Dynamic Figure Drawing)

Storytelling: look at the EC Comics (i.e., Crime SuspenStories, Haunt of Fear, Weird Science) -- 8pgs of terse storytelling, where every panel, every bit of action and dialogue counts.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 08, 2017 9:15 PM  

98. Deplorable me November 08, 2017 9:08 PM
For artists: anything by Hogarth (i.e., Dynamic Figure Drawing)


+9000 to Hogarth -- Tarzan comic strip artist, extraordinaire.

Add to that:
(1) George Bridgeman's books. Cheap from Dover.
(2) Andrew Loomis' books -- newly reprinted -- on Amazon
(3) Jack Hamm's four books on drawing -- Landscapes is a must

For inkers: Rendering in Pen and Ink, by Arthur Guptill

Anonymous Korbin Ransley November 08, 2017 9:16 PM  

I like Miles Morales. Some of this stuff in media and entertainment i didn't mind so much, but when you step back and look at the trends.

Two individuals with the same code name in the same timeline/universe? That happens but usually doesn't last that long does it?

And how common are pics of a masked hero with a secret identity cruising the streets in costume, during the day, with their face uncovered?

Couldn't they just introduce new characters? I think some on the left just like to antagonise others.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 08, 2017 9:23 PM  

Revelation Means Hope wrote:Whose picture did they photoshop onto Spiderman's body? Whoever that is, they look creepy and I'd be very leery of leaving any children around them for too long.

I know I'm not up to date on the latest Hollywood stars, but seriously, who is that person? It reminds me of the pictures of Elizabeth Warren photoshopped onto Pocahonta's body. It is comical because it so obviously doesn't belong with the body.


5 will get you 8 it's one of Bendis' kids.

Anonymous Avalanche November 08, 2017 11:11 PM  

@42 "Bendis had only one (natural) child at that point, and she would have been very young."

Oh dear, so the next Rachel Dolezal will be his child? Sad.

Blogger Wolfman at Large November 09, 2017 12:12 AM  

Escapism? Well when you've raised all your life in a constant stew of leftist propaganda (just like the Acidborn Shark of legend,) even the crudest and most blatant of right wing propaganda comes as an escape.

Blogger flyingtiger November 09, 2017 1:43 AM  

#79
The first season of the Flash, I considered the show to be a black show. Joe and Iris West seemed to be the main characters. Even the commercials seemed to be black. Barry was not adopted by Joe, so they are not half siblings. They can marry. In later seasons he was going out with a white girl that I liked. I think she was killed. The girl from arrow? I think you must mean Felicity Smoak. They also try to match her up with Barry. Unfortunately, evil forces have prevailed, and we are forced to see another white/black match-up.

Blogger Daniel November 09, 2017 5:38 AM  

Lol

Anonymous aegis-1080 November 09, 2017 8:36 AM  

Yeah, the fuck is with the pseudo-incest angle of The Flash? That's fucking creepy. Like, even normies notice it.

Anonymous MaMu77 November 10, 2017 11:20 AM  

You shut your whore mouth!
Black Manga is one of the few non-stereotypical (as in, non-rap video clone or "morally perfect") black characters in comics. I will cut a bitch if Bendis tries to make him over.

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