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Sunday, November 19, 2017

The gradations of convergence

Cataline helpfully defines them for us:
Cataline's completely arbitrary list of SJW Invasive Destructiveness.

SJW Fortified: Organizations that were built with resisting SJW entryism as one their deck planks.  SJWs will try anyway because they are parasites and parasites must feed.
Example: Castalia House

SJW Resistant:  Organizations whose internal culture is resistant to entryism by it's nature.  Any place where everyone has to start at the bottom and work like hell just to get a foot in the door.  Lower level corporate culture provides considerable protection.
(*Surprise*) Example: Disney Parks, "Yeah I know it's 94 degrees and you are wearing a forty pound bear suit.  NOW DANCE MORE SPRITELY YOU FAGGOT!"  Entryism in these cases are the result of top down pressure, when it can be managed at all.

SJW Neutral: Organizations that are under the impression that  they can stay open minded even with a few SJWs on payroll.  Entryism and eventual Convergence are guaranteed.
Example: the 2010 version of Cracked.com.

SJW Compliant:  Organizations that bow to external SJW pressure despite the damage this causes.
Example: Target.

SJW Friendly: Organizations that invite SJW guidance and follow SJW politics but are still (temporarily) functional.
Example: Google.

SJW Converged: The target organization of Entryism has been killed and the SJWs are now "parading around in it's skin.  Demanding respect."
Example: Take your pick.

Now Converged is as low as Vox Day has gone so far but I have a level beneath Converged.

SJW Cancerous:  Organization is so diseased it is destroying everything it touches.  One that is so converged it is completely dysfunctional and is only still surviving due to it's ability to parasitize a host.
Example: Marvel Comics.
On a not entirely unrelated note, I'm pleased to be able to say that the entire first 48-page volume of Avalon #1 has been written, and the first 24-page Alt★Hero comic has been both written and illustrated. We are making rapid progress and we are on track to get the first digital comics and the first 24-page print editions out in February. We are also establishing a second imprint for publishing content that we have not created ourselves, for which we have already agreed to sign three unrelated graphic novels produced by outside parties.

The 24-page editions will NOT be delivered to backers except for the two #1 versions which will be included as bonus rewards to everyone who will receive either HC#1 and/or PB#1. They are post-campaign creations that are going to be used to provide us with a presence in the comics stores. They are inexpensive and you will be able to obtain them from the stores.

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67 Comments:

Anonymous kfg November 19, 2017 11:11 AM  

" . . .you will be able to obtain them from the stores."

Would that be an indication of the third major in the comics industry you intend to take down?

Blogger VD November 19, 2017 11:13 AM  

Would that be an indication of the third major in the comics industry you intend to take down?

I would say it is more of an ancillary effect as they are not a competitor of ours, and that they will survive no matter how well we do, but they will almost certainly be disrupted.

Blogger Dave November 19, 2017 11:20 AM  

blah, blah, bonus rewards, blah, blah

Alt★Hero: the campaign that just keeps on giving.

Anonymous kfg November 19, 2017 11:24 AM  

@VD:". . . they are not a competitor of ours . . ."

That's why I've been holding the speculation quietly. As a symbiotic industry they're a blockage in the road, but still a different field from your own.

". . . they will almost certainly be disrupted."

Necessary, and also sufficient.

Blogger The Observer November 19, 2017 11:34 AM  

On a not entirely unrelated note, I'm pleased to be able to say that the entire first 48-page volume of Avalon #1 has been written, and the first 24-page Alt★Hero comic has been both written and illustrated. We are making rapid progress and we are on track to get the first digital comics and the first 24-page print editions out in February.

So much for the detractors claiming nothing would be produced, or that no dates would be given.

What will be the fallback position now, one wonders?

Blogger tuberman November 19, 2017 11:34 AM  

I've told three people that they should start looking for Alt*Hero around March of next year, before deciding to shut up and wait for more info. I did say, "It could take a bit longer."

Blogger tz November 19, 2017 11:35 AM  

Noting the first, ESR has a post on the languages that might be a successor to C, and he thinks Go from Google and Rust that appears to be in at least stage 2 SJW Cancervergence will replace them (check out Rust's CoC).

Blogger tuberman November 19, 2017 11:37 AM  

"What will be the fallback position now, one wonders?"

Yeah, it will only sell to a small, niche market, is next.

Anonymous JAG November 19, 2017 11:37 AM  

I'd place the Marvel SJW cancer with Disney. Everything Disney acquires becomes much more SJW converged than before Disney acquired them in most cases. Marvel, ESPN, etc, were leftist biased, but could still be tolerated. Now, all of them are converged cancerous garbage with ever dwindling customers.

Blogger Wolfman at Large November 19, 2017 11:48 AM  

Ah... so diamonds aren't forever.

Anonymous Avalanche November 19, 2017 11:49 AM  

@5 "What will be the fallback position now, one wonders?"

Same as always:
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Blogger Lovekraft November 19, 2017 11:52 AM  

Re: alt-hero, I'm waiting for mass distribution so that I can have the opportunity of having my local cbs (that I've frequented for decades) order it. And if he refuses, I can look him in they eye and tell him what I think.

Re the post: what about Churchianity, esp the Catholic Church? I mean, they are prime targets, but there has to be something more at play than simply a bunch of legbeards and autists wanting to take over.

Anonymous Haxo Angmaerk November 19, 2017 11:57 AM  

another good example of an SJW-cancerous institution would be

the National (black) Felons League.

Excluding, of course, the Minnesota/Somalia Vikings.

Blogger S1AL November 19, 2017 12:03 PM  

It strikes me that there's still a war going on in Disney's corporate culture. Unsurprising, given the company's general dedication to high standards. Also unsurprisingly, it appears the infestation began in an overlooked art department (music for Disney). I've noticed the same thing happening at certain other companies (WotC - also art).

It appears that the primary entry point will be "integral, but easily overlooked".

Anonymous DF November 19, 2017 12:17 PM  

Vox, still looking to back the hardcovers. Wrote you to your gmail.

Anonymous Random #57 November 19, 2017 12:28 PM  

@7 tz:

The sponsoring organization of Rust is Mozilla, and their Rust program is already at SJW Neutral at minimum, they've hired entryists. As a computer language implementation with very permissive licencing, it can be trivially forked, but right now it depends on Mozilla's institutional support. A lot of people are avoiding it until it's clear if Rust can survive the fall of Mozilla.

Anonymous Victor F. Michaelson November 19, 2017 12:31 PM  

already agreed to sign three unrelated graphic novels produced by outside parties.
The Hugo’s graphic novel category always had weak candidates and seemed a ripe candidate for cherry picking with a good product. Will any of these 3 be a candidate for a Hugo nom? If not, can I suggest A Man Unplugged for a graphic novel Hugo nom?

Anonymous Albert November 19, 2017 12:34 PM  

Since they're mocking right now, wouldn't fighting be next? Some sort of copyright, trademark, or hate-speech lawsuit, I would guess.

Blogger The Observer November 19, 2017 12:38 PM  

Since they're mocking right now, wouldn't fighting be next? Some sort of copyright, trademark, or hate-speech lawsuit, I would guess.

I've noticed some people on Twitter claiming that the EU hate speech laws will sink Alt-Hero.

Blogger Lovekraft November 19, 2017 12:44 PM  

I assume many here are aware of the sh!tstorm surrounding the release of Star Wars Battlefront 2 and the #gamergate levels of rage. The game basically pushed gambling on kids and the blow-up was incredible.

https://archive.fo/he6Hr

The reddit threads have dried up, but they did make EA cave.

Anonymous Anonymous November 19, 2017 12:44 PM  

SJWs have control of the FedGov and every state bureaucracy. The result is if your company is large enough for them to notice you, you are required by law to be SJW neutral and if you are really large SJW compliant. The only thing that can save you (legally) is that SJW take no interest in what you are doing because it isn't glamorous enough for them.

Anonymous karsten November 19, 2017 12:47 PM  

What's the argument for Disney Parks, of all things, being "SJW Resistant"? Just that they have a certain kind of performance standards? I hardly think that is sufficient to qualify for such a favourable designation, given that they're part of an entity that is indeed malignant in its Leftism.

On a related note, I'd be curious to hear more examples that supposedly fit into this category.

Blogger VD November 19, 2017 12:51 PM  

I've noticed some people on Twitter claiming that the EU hate speech laws will sink Alt-Hero.

That doesn't even rise to the level of retarded. I've lived here for 20 years. I know far more about what's okay and what's not than they do. It also betrays a complete failure to understand how I approach storytelling.

Blogger weka November 19, 2017 12:52 PM  

The 24 page four buck comics need to get out there... because the comic book guys need something to sell. Marvel, as Cataline notes, is selling sewage: the books go from the shelves into the recycle bin.

A number of other organizations are approaching cancerous. I cannot read the NZ Herald: I have not bought the Sunday edition for a decade (the daily Herald is a North Island thing: it does not come to where I live). But I now rarely buy the local paper, which used to be excellent. It also has deteriorated. I get more news I can use from the monthly newsletter in the village.

There are entire industries consisting of zombies dancing skinsuits.

Anonymous Anonymous November 19, 2017 12:56 PM  

"On a related note, I'd be curious to hear more examples that supposedly fit into this category."

Any place without an HR department that doesn't make anything sexy. I do a lot of work with 20-70 person machine shops that are parts suppliers. None of them are converged. Its "here are the facilities, we aren't changing them. This is our process, we aren't changing it. These are the tasks you are going to do to get paid."

WB

Blogger Lovekraft November 19, 2017 1:08 PM  

@ 24: I've used the expression 'allergic' for a few years now. People have no response to it, and I think that means I am touching something in their psyche they cannot process, which is essential for breaking them out of their stupor.

Blogger The Observer November 19, 2017 1:23 PM  

That doesn't even rise to the level of retarded. I've lived here for 20 years. I know far more about what's okay and what's not than they do. It also betrays a complete failure to understand how I approach storytelling.

My bad, it was Gab.

https://gab.ai/LarryLSharp/posts/14054669

https://gab.ai/LarryLSharp/posts/14055129

Appears to be an alt-retard.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 19, 2017 1:30 PM  

Wolfman at Large wrote:Ah... so diamonds aren't forever.

Saw what you did there.

Blogger YIH November 19, 2017 1:45 PM  

VD wrote:Would that be an indication of the third major in the comics industry you intend to take down?

I would say it is more of an ancillary effect as they are not a competitor of ours, and that they will survive no matter how well we do, but they will almost certainly be disrupted.

AFAIK there are only three majors, although like (FIAT)Chrysler, the only reason Archie Comics is considered a major is because they've been one since WWII. Last I heard, they're selling <50k total per month. But then again, I wouldn't be surprised if DC or Marvel isn't topping 100k/mo total either.

Anonymous Heywood November 19, 2017 1:53 PM  

The Observer wrote:
Appears to be an alt-retard.

It is. A Texan nutsi larper, which tells you all about the gentleman's faculties for reasoning and gives a hint about his keen insights into all things EU.

Blogger Nakota Publishing November 19, 2017 1:53 PM  

I'm expecting the converged comic companies to try to threaten the shops to keep them from carrying Alt*Hero. Is that a possible threat, or would such an attempt be an anti-trust violation?

Blogger Wolfman at Large November 19, 2017 1:56 PM  

@28 just thinking through the chain reaction this is going to cause...

Anonymous Victor F. Michaelson November 19, 2017 2:05 PM  

machine shops... None of them are converged
No doubt they are male bastions where performance counts. Either trait will deter entryism.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 19, 2017 2:10 PM  

(*Cataline bows deeply *)

Pleased as ever to be of some service, oh Dread Dark Lord.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 19, 2017 2:18 PM  

Nakota Publishing wrote:I'm expecting the converged comic companies to try to threaten the shops to keep them from carrying Alt*Hero. Is that a possible threat, or would such an attempt be an anti-trust violation?

They *could*, but it certainly wouldn't pass the public sniff test for monopolistic behavior and bald-face racketeering. I certainly wouldn't put it past Current-Year Marvel Comics to try.

But that didn't work so well the last time the Big 2 played in that pond. No one complained much, and Congress sure didn't care in the 1990s if there was collusion in the "funny book" world. Much more likely that someone might notice this time.

Blogger raneman November 19, 2017 2:51 PM  

Oh, they used old Cracked as an example. Sad. I really used to enjoy that place. Now it's just a seething, writhing converged mess that should be out out of its misery.

Blogger GithYankee November 19, 2017 3:04 PM  

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Anonymous Brick Hardslab November 19, 2017 3:04 PM  

The big ones won't do it themselves. They will outsource to various SJW groups that will be threatened by the violent rhetoric and images as well as the blatant racism.

Guarantee it will be denounced in a coordinated manner by the usual media and they'll trot out a couple of racism victims to cry on cue.

Blogger Ingot9455 November 19, 2017 3:07 PM  

@22 If you are not between 5'4" and 5'7" and within the appropriate weight/dress size guidelines, you will not be hired to portray a Disney Princess, no ifs ands or buts. No tumblrina landwhales may apply no matter how exquisite the blue mermaid stripe in their hair and how horn-rimmed their birth-control glasses.
Disney Parks, unlike Hooters, will not give landwhales behind-the-scenes jobs as a consolation prize.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 19, 2017 3:07 PM  

The third player in comics is IDW.
They can't get away with as much, because their major profit is in comics made to order for, e.g. Hasbro and Sony Motion Pictures.
Still, they try.

Anonymous polyhedron November 19, 2017 3:25 PM  

Since we're sort of on the subject of CH, are more SJWADD paperbacks expected to be available in time for Christmas?

Completely unrelated: VD, what prompted you to reread 1Q84?

Blogger Raging Papist November 19, 2017 3:29 PM  

I would add that EA qualifies as an SJW Cancerous body. Obviously, they are an SJW converged company, but they specifically make their money to sustain themselves by destroying other companies after acquiring them. Look at the recent dissolution of Visceral - a company that seemed like they were hanging in there due to the Dead Space series. EA literally acquires other corporate bodies and devours them to sustain themselves.

Blogger VD November 19, 2017 4:24 PM  

Since we're sort of on the subject of CH, are more SJWADD paperbacks expected to be available in time for Christmas?

Yes. We're POD. You never have to wait for Amazon to actually say it's in stock.

Anonymous Albert November 19, 2017 4:35 PM  

If lawfare isn't possible against AltHero . . .

I'd prefer that they go from mocking straight to losing, but I don't think that can be counted on.

Blogger Glenn Donovan November 19, 2017 4:43 PM  

I have to say that this is what I most admire about you. Just getting steadily about the task of creating the world that you want to exist. Doing actual battle.

I should say that I have significant disagreement with you, but only to signify how much respect you creating new institutions for a social order you are attempting to bring about. So many of us are stuck in survival mode, and our activism amounts to taking some of our free time out to whine about the decline.

Guilty as charged. But then again, I live life a day at a time and that gives me a chance at anything. I did try to get involved in politics, libertarian, republican, and even the Convention of the States movement, but I had to bail on each. I even did a stint in the World Citizens movement when I was much younger and dumber. The real problem with politics, particularly the kind we have, is that it attracts mostly horrific people. There are exceptions, but really, politics is quite disgusting to be involved in due to the dull and smallminded people who seem to be attracted to it. The point is well made in The Road to Serfdom by Hayek, but to live it is quite different than to read about it.

I checked out of activism. But capital is power, and institutions are powerful. And the performance ethos will win out over the inefficiencies of post-modern dragoons. And the right isn't much better in most ways. Self criticism isn't their strong suit. But the left has reached the stage of complete breakdown. They are truly eating their own tail. Their beliefs are so fantastical that they cannot come to good decisions or take actions that forward their own causes.

Parasites can survive for a long time though. I recently read Gibbons' The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire and it was torture to watch the dysfunctional, crappy nation it became and existed as for hundreds of years. Parasitic class and govt perpetuated itself. Immigration killed them too, but you of course know all this.

Market driven institutions should be able to run rings around these. I want to thank you for creating an example to learn from, even as I'm not aligned. It helps me focus my efforts in a constructive and more satisfying direction, in that I'm building my own institutions now and also exercising leadership day to day in a way that at least effects a few people.

Hell, just demonstrating excellence can be revolutionary in today's world.

Blogger Edgar Abbey November 19, 2017 4:43 PM  

A friend of mine was commenting how, with as negative as NFL has become, how incredible it is that NASCAR remains unashamed to show its patriotism.

I don't think he understands. It's just a matter of time before SJWs infiltrate and ruin this institution too.

Blogger Glenn Donovan November 19, 2017 4:49 PM  

And wow, do i wish i realized there is no edit on posts here. Above was draft, could be much tighter. Live and learn. My points come through though, so I won't repost.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 19, 2017 5:13 PM  

A friend of mine was commenting how, with as negative as NFL has become, how incredible it is that NASCAR remains unashamed to show its patriotism.
Nascar is actually doing a slight about face. They were drifting SJW. Becoming gay friendly and talking about racism. The track nearish me in Richmond actually was pulling out seats because the fans weren't showing.
They've since begun a course correction.

Blogger Nate November 19, 2017 6:09 PM  

'They are inexpensive and you will be able to obtain them from the stores.'

Seeing Alt-Hero in comic stores is going to cause massive butthurt.

Anonymous Just another commenter November 19, 2017 6:15 PM  

There is a comic store not far from where I work. Can't wait until I can walk in and ask "got the latest Alt*Hero yet? Only thing I plan on buying, guys."

Anonymous BBGKB November 19, 2017 6:27 PM  

Seeing Alt-Hero in comic stores is going to cause massive butthurt.

Defiantly need to tell us ahead of time so we can visit on day 1

OT: to everyone saying wetbacks are natural conservative Christians

George Lopez explains why wetbacks are natural moslems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CIBK5J5xLg

Blogger Justin Faust November 19, 2017 6:28 PM  

Thank you, Vox, I'm glad I backed the project by buying all the hard covers. I hope I don't regret passing up the 150-version of the figurine. Rogue is bangarang!

Anonymous BBGKB November 19, 2017 6:45 PM  

There might be some interesting news tomorrow, this is what I said should happen at Epstein island

Marines invade CIA headquarters #Pizzagate

"There are reports now circulating that a special forces group of 2200 marines have landed and invaded the CIA Headquarters"
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/report-of-marines-invading-cia-headquarters/

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club November 19, 2017 6:46 PM  

Judging by their maudlin "If the world could see what moms see" commercial (complete with "O-o-h Child" soundtrack), Procter & Gamble is SJW Cancerous.

Blogger Lucas November 19, 2017 6:59 PM  

I will know that the Lord Jesus is about to return when Castalia House gets taken over by SJWs.

Blogger Abyssus Invocat November 19, 2017 7:57 PM  

We now need to work on a theory and practice of deconvergence. Is there a successful example? Has it been attempted? Is it even possible? Thoughts?

Blogger L. Jagi Lamplighter Wright November 19, 2017 7:59 PM  

The Avalon news is very exciting!

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 19, 2017 8:09 PM  

We are also establishing a second imprint for publishing content that we have not created ourselves, for which we have already agreed to sign three unrelated graphic novels produced by outside parties.

BWAHAHAHAHA!  I can hear the REEEEEEEEEEs already.

SDL, you are indeed most kind.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 19, 2017 8:17 PM  

Nate wrote:'They are inexpensive and you will be able to obtain them from the stores.'

Seeing Alt-Hero in comic stores is going to cause massive butthurt.


The interesting part will be when the comic book shops actually turn in to the intimidation/bullying dens SJWs claim they are now. The only thing that will be different is there will be actual physical confrontations and it will be the SJW comic fans instigating the violence/bullying.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 19, 2017 8:27 PM  

@54 I had heard that P&G suspended all online advertising shortly after that video was produced with the excuse that they weren't seeing any real results from the ads. Perhaps the real reason was a purge of the SJWs who produced that ad under the cover of claiming that they weren't seeing results.

It's a moot point anyhow. P&G themselves are being targeted by the vampires on Wall Street to be sucked dry. Peltz is going to come in, gut the talent, cut all spending on "community projects" and sell of the brands. Then he will sell all of his shares at a tidy profit and get out before the inevitable collapse.

P&G needs Peltz according to cnbc

Blogger Were-Puppy November 19, 2017 8:48 PM  

@29 YIH

Archie comics are still at the counter in a lot of grocery stores.

I wonder if the crappy CW show is having any effect on their sales ?

Blogger Were-Puppy November 19, 2017 8:49 PM  

@27 The Observer

https://gab.ai/LarryLSharp/posts/14055129

Appears to be an alt-retard.
---

Mute him. He's apparently now got a lifetime hate boner for Vox Day.

Blogger Were-Puppy November 19, 2017 8:55 PM  

@53 BBGKB
Marines invade CIA headquarters #Pizzagate

"There are reports now circulating that a special forces group of 2200 marines have landed and invaded the CIA Headquarters"
---

THanks man, I've been wondering if this would be verified.

Blogger Wolfman at Large November 19, 2017 10:30 PM  

@61 The Archie comics at grocery stores don't actually sell but they look good and keep bored kids standing in line entertained.

Blogger GithYankee November 20, 2017 6:13 AM  

Scenario: Someone anyone, buys shares of $7 B&N stock. The backers gang up and special order, prepaid no L. Ron Hubbard bs, 2000 copies of Alt-Hero #1. It's the number one graphic novel, both in store and on official bestseller lists. B&N refuses to stock of course.
Shareholder meeting is nothing but civnat protests. Put the boomers to work on being pains in the asses. "why don't you want to make money". More lawfare. Everywhere I look, I see money to be made off corporations that put social justice over profit.
This might be stupid, usually everything I post here is, BUT sjw's were doing this very strategy 20 years ago. It used to be one dreadlocked fruitcake shouting about animal testing or racism at the shareholder meeting, now look where they are, implicitly controlling every major corporation.

Blogger tz November 20, 2017 11:53 AM  

I think you see a parallel with the Cuckservatives, though they converge to a rather strange point of impotent principles. The libertarians were always pre-converged and the statist! anarchist! yelling has already been there.

But you can see it with Buckley and NR starting with rejecting the Birchers. Then Joe Sobran and Pat Buchanan.

The Cuckservative Right is a mirror of SJWs, and the paths might be identical, and the rhetoric more high minded - point and write a 3000 word essay instead of shrieking - but Cuckservative Convergence is just as real.

You see this with some of the "principled" opposition to Roy Moore over the accusations. Point and essay. Demand resignation (in effect plead nolo contondre so we can say you were guilty).

Blogger James Dixon November 20, 2017 4:43 PM  

> AFAIK there are only three majors

Now, yes. I think Harvey qualified as a major in their day.

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