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Tuesday, November 07, 2017

The ride never ends

#GamerGate never forgets:
Bob Chipman @the_moviebob
There's like a 50/50 shot that I will live to see Marvel and DC "Universes" consolidated into a single publishing continuity.

Supreme Dark Lord‏ @voxday
More like 2/98. You're a fat bastard who is likely to die of apoplexy sometime during the reign of the God-Emperor Trump.
Even if you combine all the SJW convergence with Alt★Hero, I don't think we're going to be able to compete with Mr. Chipman's relentless need to stuff his maw.

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71 Comments:

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 07, 2017 2:18 PM  

Harsh, but fair.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 2:18 PM  

To anyone who actually still bothers watching Movie Bob or going to The Escapist... how bad has it gotten there? And how much fatter has Movie Bob gotten? Also, is he still pretending he knows a lick about comics when he uses the terms "Universes" here when it's well known both Marvel and DC are multiverses, just with mainstream universes where the majority of stuff tends to take place, or is that why he wrote "Universes" in quotes. With Movie Bob, I can never tell.

Anonymous Difster November 07, 2017 2:26 PM  

Maybe he's just hopeful that someday, Castalia House will be successful enough to buy both.

Blogger Azimus November 07, 2017 2:30 PM  

Maybe this is just a misunderstanding - he might think the event is imminent? /s

Anonymous #5454 November 07, 2017 2:31 PM  

There's the cruelty artist we all know and love.

Blogger Longtime Lurker November 07, 2017 2:32 PM  

For a moment, I thought I read Movie Blob.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 07, 2017 2:34 PM  

I'm not that familiar with Patreon. If you contribute to MovieBob, is there a way to make sure that the money goes only toward snack foods?

Anonymous BBGKB November 07, 2017 2:37 PM  

Bob Chipman does the beard to hide the extra chins trim.

OT: Fat Niggerette soldierette against standing for the pledge, goes after teacher. Did they stop the weight control program?
http://abc11.com/education/fort-bragg-soldier-angry-over-teachers-pledge-remark/2611451/

C()nt probably ran when the flag was lowerd & retreat played like this one
http://gazette.com/fort-carson-soldiers-selfie-could-land-her-2-years-in-prison/article/1515459

Blogger Rashadjin November 07, 2017 2:37 PM  

I despised Movie Bob a long, long time ago. Was part of me ditching The Escapist slightly less of a long, long time ago. So can't say about the former, and heard news that the latter is in zombie husk 'just keeping the lights on' mode. The Escapist worked hard to earn its collapse.

And that tweet made me happy.

Blogger The Kurgan November 07, 2017 2:39 PM  

The Dark Lord is too kind.
"Bastard" is far too complimentary for someone like Bob.
You are possibly unaware that Kevin Smith once wrote an article where he admitted that he got his orgasms by using his wife's dildo on himself while she told him what a useless excuse for a man he was compared to her lovers.
I read this quite a while back, possibly shortly after Clerks came out. Perhaps his wife used the dildo. I can't recall that detail, but the rest is accurate.
It may have been in a magazine called Arena.

Blogger Glenn Phillips November 07, 2017 2:55 PM  

https://me.me/t/savage-department

Blogger Wanderer November 07, 2017 3:15 PM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:To anyone who actually still bothers watching Movie Bob or going to The Escapist... how bad has it gotten there?
Last I heard about Movie Blob he is a literal cuckold in an ""open relationship"" with an SJW wife so fat and masculine-looking that she makes Scalzi's wife look like Kate Upton in comparison. As for The Escapist - who at one point was the only major mainstream gaming website that remained neutral during Gamergate - well, there's this: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/features/17904-The-Gamers-Image-is-Dead-and-We-Should-Bury-It

Blogger Dave W. November 07, 2017 3:26 PM  

"More like 2/98. You're a fat bastard who is likely to die of apoplexy sometime during the reign of the God-Emperor Trump."

BAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA, that left a mark

Anonymous Killua November 07, 2017 3:32 PM  

Maybe he's just hopeful that someday, Castalia House will be successful enough to buy both.

10/10

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 07, 2017 3:34 PM  

Wanderer wrote:Last I heard about Movie Blob he is a literal cuckold in an ""open relationship"" with an SJW wife so fat and masculine-looking ...

What, you want him to bang her himself? Talk about cruel and unusual punishment!

Blogger Geir Balderson November 07, 2017 3:46 PM  

Bob Chipman is one of those characters that I never heard of until I came to this Blog. But, then who had heard of John Scalzi until VD discussed his lunacy here?
I suppose I lead a sheltered life far from the SJW monsters.
Thanks Vox Day. This Blog is like a Public Service Announcement! Beware of the strange and offended,,,,they smell.

Blogger dvdivx November 07, 2017 3:46 PM  

I can see Disney buying both and turn into a SJW deathspiral even at a faster pace. They seem to turn every property they get into PC crap.

Blogger SmockMan November 07, 2017 4:11 PM  

While Blobba the Hutt may be getting cucked in his relationship, he is cucking the rest of us on healthcare.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 07, 2017 4:12 PM  

I think Disney buying DC is vaguely possible.

A lot of that depends on just how badly the Brett Ratner thing hurts Warner Brothers. If it's bad enough they may indeed look to dump some property of questionable value.

Warner has always had an iffy relationship with DC. Bugs Bunny is a huge part of Warner's corporate identity. Superman is not.

Yes, good stuff has been produced but rarely at the mega-bucks level. The Nolan/Burton Batman movies were it.

Disney would have to pay through the nose to get it but they do have the money right now.

From a business standpoint the smartest thing for Disney to do after that would be to turn the hideous disaster that is SJW Marvel over to the guys at DC comics and turn the movies over to Marvel Films.

Who am I kidding?

If Disney did buy DC, we'd see Superman turned into Superintersectionaltransbeing within the year. Xhe would have no adventures but would cry a lot.

And might punch Donald Trump.

Anonymous Garth November 07, 2017 4:18 PM  

It's sad that a supposedly adult man can take funnybooks so seriously. They're meant to be fun disposable entertainment largely made for 12 year old boys. It sucks that our whole entertainment industry is now based upon such juvenile nonsense.

Blogger Lovekraft November 07, 2017 4:31 PM  

Spicy!

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot November 07, 2017 4:55 PM  

Captain, all the transporters are at full power and they're runnin' as fast as they can, but we still can't transport enough Tribbles into the maw of that infernal beast to keep its hunger satisfied! :-)

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 07, 2017 5:00 PM  

@19

And Cataline gets it wrong again.

Turns out there are ongoing talks between Disney and Fox to buy off the Fox film division.

If it goes through, Disney would have clear title to the X-Men, Wolverine, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Dead Pool, Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver.

Leaving only Man-Thing and Namur completely outside the Marvel Films fold.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer November 07, 2017 5:18 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:@19

And Cataline gets it wrong again.

Turns out there are ongoing talks between Disney and Fox to buy off the Fox film division.

If it goes through, Disney would have clear title to the X-Men, Wolverine, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Dead Pool, Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver.

Leaving only Man-Thing and Namur completely outside the Marvel Films fold.


I am kind of curious if that is the main motivation behind the deal for Disney. Fox studios doesn't really have much in the way of other IP worth much of anything.

Anonymous ze Swede November 07, 2017 5:20 PM  

The Escapist is owned by the same corp that owns everyjoe. Everyjoe ran columns by the good colonel Kratman for a year or so and as someone mentioned above they were the only large site that remained neutral during GG. The escapist is not the enemy. And do check out the colonel's back log on everyjoe great columns and Kratman goes wild in the comments.

Anonymous Man of the Atom November 07, 2017 5:33 PM  

Cataline Sergius wrote:@19

And Cataline gets it wrong again.

Turns out there are ongoing talks between Disney and Fox to buy off the Fox film division.

If it goes through, Disney would have clear title to the X-Men, Wolverine, Fantastic Four, Silver Surfer, Dead Pool, Scarlet Witch and Quick Silver.

Leaving only Man-Thing and Namur completely outside the Marvel Films fold.

Will it matter if Disney succeeds? The roughly 10-year window for Hollyweird runs (i.e. Superhero films -- 2008: Iron Man 1) is closing. Question is which will close faster: the window of desire of the general public to go to superhero films, or the SJW window to destroy the Superhero in Film?

Film at 11.

Blogger Feather Blade November 07, 2017 5:35 PM  

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Blogger Arthur Isaac November 07, 2017 5:39 PM  

OT, Jesse Jackson apparently like thick journalist gals. The humanity.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 5:53 PM  

@17

They'd have to buy Warner Bros first, though, or offer Warner Bros enough of a price tag, which is unlikely.

Blogger LP9 November 07, 2017 6:01 PM  

Par-tay! Great post.


I recall Paris GG, lil' Milo in his hat, Mr. and Mrs Day were there or was that late 2014; whatever GG lives the feminists ruining tech confs and ruining gaming won't be successful or fruitful.

The escapist (I quit there a while ago, its ruined, even for (Fromsoftware/havok) dark souls or bloodbourne fans)to EVILDisney etc always concerned me, I pay them no mind.

Today is an awesome day, 11/7, 11/8 2016 I woke up to no more HRC, never to re-live the 90's again.

GG to SF is not owned by insipid emotional porn, the women need to go, and let men create great games.

Blogger LP9 November 07, 2017 6:02 PM  

The most triggering is calling the haters heretics of POTUS Trump GE, its hilarious.

Let Disney burn.

Blogger dh November 07, 2017 6:08 PM  

For everything wrong with what Disney is doing, they know exactly what they are doing with Marvel and the MCU and Star Wars and the Star Wars Universe.

Its pretty simple: expand stories of people who consumers already like, build a new generation of fans, produce major tent pole films every year.

Marvel should be absolutely killing comic book sales right now - it's simple. Integrate the MCU, make the comics fan service to the movies, and enjoy swimming in cash. Tell smaller stories in comics that lead up to the next movie, and enjoy the cross-promotional advertising money.

Instead they make Thor, who is a huge draw in the movies, into a woman who no one cares about.

You can't fix stupid.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Blogger YIH November 07, 2017 6:16 PM  

I've said it before, and it applies to either DC or Marvel, if they had to survive on comic book sales alone... They probably wouldn't. But that doesn't matter to their entertainment conglomerate parents, all they care about is cranking out something featuring each major character (or group of them) on a regular basis - to prevent those rights from reverting to their creators (or their estates). Content doesn't matter - obviously.

Anonymous Avalanche November 07, 2017 6:16 PM  

@8 "ran when the flag was lowerd & retreat played like this one"

In Philly I used to dread having to go over to the main building, because all the punks awaiting discharge were on "work detail" -- which meant they were lying around on the steps smoking and being idiots. I dreaded it because, as an officer, it was my job to enforce the standard saluting rules. I recognized that these guys just wanted OUT, and it wasn't worth my time -- or theirs -- to get into a pissing match about it. On the other hand, it was my DUTY and I was going to enforce it. I found, that if I approached with "come on guys, you gotta play the game; on your feet..." they would grumble but 'play by the rules.' Of course back then, it was mostly WHITE guys!

I explained to a girl I was kicking out of the Navy for drug use (third time: even back then standards were dropping). She came in to my office and said "There HAD to be some way she could stay in."

"There was before; you needed to give up the drugs."

"I don't want to do that. I do want to stay in AND still smoke pot. It's JUST pot!"

"Nope. The deal with the Navy is: you get the Navy and you give up drugs. You want the drugs, you have to give up the Navy. The rules are simple; the choice was yours. ANY game you play has rules. If you won't play by the rules, you can't play the game."

(She was not happy I didn't care: buh bye!)

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 07, 2017 6:32 PM  

There's an odd similarity between Scalzi and Chipman.
Anyone ever seen Scalzi and Movieblob in the same place at the same time?

Blogger SirGroggy November 07, 2017 6:34 PM  

Bravo! I agree with that S. D. Lord chap wholeheartedly. Here here!

Blogger VD November 07, 2017 6:38 PM  

Its pretty simple: expand stories of people who consumers already like, build a new generation of fans, produce major tent pole films every year.

Except they should be smarter about keeping the SJW out. But they won't. So, they'll leave a little window of disruption open.

Blogger JC November 07, 2017 6:53 PM  

I think some of you are confusing the corpulent cuckold, Jim Sterling with Bob Chipman. An easy mistake to make.

Blogger Rashadjin November 07, 2017 7:35 PM  

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Blogger Rashadjin November 07, 2017 7:37 PM  

@32 dh

Instead they make Thor, who is a huge draw in the movies, into a woman who no one cares about.

I was slated to see Thor: Ragnarok with a group before going Burn Hollywood mode, and so much this.

The movie is full on juvenile, joke time action schlock which instantly undercuts any sense of gravitas the visuals/plot are trying to convey. Worse, the movie started with Thor's character suddenly half neutered which then went to full, soy-boy neutered after a hair cut scene a la Samson. I doubt they even realized the connection they were creating.

At least the Led Zeppelin version of the trailer was enjoyable... Also is great meme fodder.

@38 JC

I think some of you are confusing the corpulent cuckold, Jim Sterling with Bob Chipman. An easy mistake to make.

I'll admit it. I keep having to tell myself that they are, in fact, different people.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 7:41 PM  

"It's sad that a supposedly adult man can take funnybooks so seriously. They're meant to be fun disposable entertainment largely made for 12 year old boys. It sucks that our whole entertainment industry is now based upon such juvenile nonsense."

Mmmm mmmm mmmm. The poop here is exquisite. Can I have some more likely hypocritical bullshit, sir?

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 07, 2017 7:45 PM  

@25 Man of the Atom

Will it matter if Disney succeeds? The roughly 10-year window for Hollyweird runs (i.e. Superhero films -- 2008: Iron Man 1) is closing. Question is which will close faster: the window of desire of the general public to go to superhero films, or the SJW window to destroy the Superhero in Film?

That is indeed the billion dollar question.

It should be noted that the first really modern superhero film wasn't Ironman, it was X-Men*. From way back in 2000.

So the superhero movie genre is on year 17 of it's 10 year run.

Regardless, if Bob Iger gets a chance to buy something big he never turns it down.

But you are right, Disney does however have a problem. Robert Downey was a fit 42 year old when he made Ironman. Now their masthead action star is 52 and is making, "I'm about done," noises. For reference Hugh Jackman threw in the towel at 48.

As for SJW corruption, it appears to have begun. The Miles Morales Spiderman has crept out of the comics and is now on the more openly converged Disney Channel.

The SJW failure loops is now in motion. The more the public rejects Miles Morales, the more they will double down on the character. Insisting that Miles Morales is the real and only Spiderman.



*Yes, I am discounting the Burton Batman movies.

Anonymous Daniel November 07, 2017 7:48 PM  

Speaking of #gamergate, something funny I saw the other day.

https://twitter.com/i/moments/851713200537993216?lang=en

Anonymous Alice De Goon November 07, 2017 8:10 PM  

Ah, MovieBob, aka MovieBlob, aka MovieKnob, aka, Matey Potatey aka The Footless Fascist. His thread on Kiwifarms is one of the most popular by far:

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/bob-moviebob-chipman.5873/

He's notable for his Mario Fetish, his belief that FPS games caused 9/11, and his peculiar brand of SJWism which worships technology and corporations while at the same time condemning poor flyover Americans as "garbage people" who should be eliminated for the sake of the "SUPERIAH FYUTCHA." (Or "Superior Future" for those of us who don't speak with a cartoonish Boston accent like Bob.)

He also believes that humanity will be capable of growing wheat on the moon someday. I'm loathe to admit there was a time when I actually watched his videos. Back when he was on Youtube and wasn't affiliated with any gaming site, he had a friendly air and used to focus on gaming history, & gaming analysis. He had a way of tapping into people's nostalgia about their own childhood gaming experiences, and I could definitely see why he became popular. But as soon as he got a regular reviewing gig at a Gaming Site, the human mask slipped off and he revealed the Mario Mussolini underneath.

Anonymous LT Observer November 07, 2017 8:19 PM  

OT: Looks like the GOP lost Virginia today. Good job, Drumph. The alt-retards are destroying everything.

Blogger Michael Neal November 07, 2017 8:28 PM  

The cuckservatives lost Virginia tonight but the alt-retards definitely didnt help with their heil hitler rally

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 8:30 PM  

"For everything wrong with what Disney is doing, they know exactly what they are doing with Marvel and the MCU and Star Wars and the Star Wars Universe."

Indeed, and for that, they deserve to BURN.

"Its pretty simple: expand stories of people who consumers already like, build a new generation of fans, produce major tent pole films every year."

See above.

"Marvel should be absolutely killing comic book sales right now--”

Indeed. Both of the Big 2's titles, especially Marvel considering how well the MCU has done, should be selling like hot cakes. Unfortunately, though, the thing with superhero comic book adaptations into other mediums in particular is that they tend to take even greater liberties for a variety of reasons (some of them good, some of them bad, some of them questionable, and some of them sad) so even assuming both whatever film a person watched based on a storyline in 616 and the original storyline in 616 was good, it's understandable that from a perspective of 'who the heck are these guys, what the heck is going on, and how much backstory do I need to truly appreciate things' for a prospective new reader. Especially considering 616 literally has DECADES of continuity behind it and that prospective comic readers who've only seen the movies and can't really grok just how much bigger 616 really is in comparison to the teeny, tiny, MCU.

"Integrate the MCU..."

This is where you lost me. Fuck and no should they not integrate the MCU in the way that they should drop all their titles and make THAT low-ball, low-tier universe their main comics universe rather than 616. Yes, 616 has a taken a hit since the SJW rot in Marvel has become so blatant (though, again since at least the 70's was it noticeably present for someone with eyes wide open), but it ASTOUNDS me that for all the bad comics in 616 even before the Rot got so big, the 616 universe has so much good stuff, and not even just good concepts, but good concepts executed so well, that the MCU, okay though it is on average, can be considered a universe in the Marvel Multiverse because it just wears the decaying skin of characters and plotlines and things that were much greater than the pale imitations we got (*cough* Mandarin. Fucking Chinks messing with that. Cough Planet Hulk and Ragnorak. Cough Infinity GEMS (not stones, GEMS) *uncough*)

"Tell smaller stories in comics that lead up to the next movie, and enjoy the cross-promotional advertising money."

I could understand it from an economic point of view (not a moral point of view or anything like that, but certainly from a max green, max greed standpoint, I get it) but you do realize how movie tie-ins tend to do in comparison to their films they're just blatant, cheap, advertisements for, right? I mean, for fuck's sake, the reason Harry Potter and the Riordan verse are so popular is because, FIRST, they had to be decent enough and popular enough books ON THEIR OWN and they all were before the movie deals came in. They weren't just cheap cash grabs as much as the movies changed quite a bit. You're encouraging bad behavior so, please, stop it.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 8:36 PM  

@42

"It should be noted that the first really modern superhero film wasn't Ironman, it was X-Men*. From way back in 2000."

Wrong again, Cataline. Blade would like an answer with you. Heck, Batman 1989 would like an answer with you.

Blogger James Dixon November 07, 2017 8:38 PM  

> Looks like the GOP lost Virginia today.

The GOP has held the governor's office in Virginia for only 4 of the past 12 years. And the guy running was a swamp creature through and through.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 8:44 PM  

@50

Yay! Poop of a non superhero genre bashing variety and the more bland political variety! Huzzah!

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 8:45 PM  

LT Observer wrote:OT: Looks like the GOP lost Virginia today. Good job, Drumph. The alt-retards are destroying everything.

Well, to be fair, nobody really made much of the race to begin with. That's more on the choice of candidate for the GOP than anything else (Gillespie was a Bush guy, having been chair of the RNC). Think of it as the Warner/Kaine regime from the mid '00s.

The problem is Northern Virginia. There's too much of a transient population (legal and otherwise) that will toe the SJW line. Sure, the Alt-Retards are a factor, but there's just as much stupidity on the D side (and probably a lot more that's worse) that is going to get worse before it gets better.

Back ON-T: Big news today is Bendis making the jump from Marvel to DC. Not for nothing, but part of the reason Marvel went so hard into the SJW cesspool was due to his influence into a lot of the various titles. Hoping for an outright merger between the two lines might seem like a great idea to some, but it just doesn't make sense.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 8:50 PM  

@52

It really doesn't. Heck, a crossover like Marvel vs DC or an outright CANNON crossover between the two would make more sense, and there's no sign of that happening ever since Marvel and DC decided to renew their forced rivalry and get rid of their previous camaraderie.

Though, to be fair, a lot of the guys working for either company today never worked extensively with BOTH companies in the way older guys like Jose Perez and Roy Thomas did.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 9:03 PM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:It really doesn't. Heck, a crossover like Marvel vs DC or an outright CANNON crossover between the two would make more sense, and there's no sign of that happening ever since Marvel and DC decided to renew their forced rivalry and get rid of their previous camaraderie.

Though, to be fair, a lot of the guys working for either company today never worked extensively with BOTH companies in the way older guys like Jose Perez and Roy Thomas did.


Well, they did have a couple of major crossovers back in the '90s, IIRC. I mean, it CAN be done, but doesn't always mean that it SHOULD.

Blogger James Dixon November 07, 2017 9:07 PM  

> Blade would like an answer with you. Heck, Batman 1989 would like an answer with you.

Superman (1978, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078346/) and Wonder Woman (1974, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072419/) would like a word with you. And I suspect they're not the first, merely the oldest I could find with a quick search.

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 9:19 PM  

@53

Yeah, Marvel vs DC was what I was referring to.

Also, agreed... the problem is, why shouldn't they now when they've ruined both to smouldering heaps and they at least have a considerable number of people more interested in either a big, non-cannon or cannon event type crossover.

Again, though: just more proof that the idiots running Marvel and DC are idiots and that, as much as I disagree with the wannabe ragu linguini daccari chugger who runs this blog on a lot of stuff, I do sincerely hope Vox one day ends up destroying them. I don't think Alt-Hero will ever really get as deep or detailed as Vox thinks it will, even with industry pros like Dixon, because I know considerably more about DC and Marvel continuity than the surface level, adaptations into other mediums stuff Vox knows and know Vox will refuse on principle certain types of stories with certain types of characters that Marvel and DC have delved into repeatedly, but, hey, if he destroys Marvel and DC and can accomplish what I can't and likely never can, then let the enemy of my enemy my friend in this case and go a raping and pillaging and bring the editors in chiefs' heads of both companies at the foot of his throne. Long live the Supreme Lord of Darkness!

Blogger Emmanuel Mateo-Morales November 07, 2017 9:23 PM  

@54

I am aware of the existence of both. Heck, I like the former a lot and the latter a little bit for the theme song if nothing else. However, while Superman is a landmark superhero film... it's not really a... ya know... modern Superhero film, is it? Yes, it's very important, but, from a stylistic stand point and just a boom/bust standpoint, it can't really be compared to, say, the latest super cycle in film that really did begin with at least Blade (though the first X-Men picture was also critical) and at most with the first Burton Batman picture.

Also, Wonder Woman was a tv series, so, non-sequitor bring it up.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 9:30 PM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:don't think Alt-Hero will ever really get as deep or detailed as Vox thinks it will...

Well, not for nothing, but looking at Alt-Hero, it is a start. Lots of this stuff is going to take time. The SDL is always looking for opportunities, and this just happens to be one that makes sense. I think once people start seeing that there are viable alternatives to various media available, then that's when the Alt- movement takes off.

Anonymous VFM #6306 November 07, 2017 9:42 PM  

I think some of you are confusing the corpulent cuckold, Jim Sterling with Bob Chipman. An easy mistake to make.

Now, you'll never see them in the same room, but that has more to do with live load.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 07, 2017 10:08 PM  

@Emmanuel
The bizarre multiverse continuity of Marvel is ine of the major reasons people cannot take comics seriously. Coninuity is the cancer that killed comix.

Anonymous Matt November 07, 2017 10:08 PM  

"Wrong again, Cataline. Blade would like an answer with you. Heck, Batman 1989 would like an answer with you."

Those aren't really in the modern superhero genre. The superhero films being made now don't follow the old "film a comic book" template like the Tim Burton Batman, they follow the "take an otherwise basically real-world setting and put a superhero in it via an origin story" template. The main visual signifier is usually that the costumes are much less comic-ish - note comic book Wolverine vs. X-Men (2000) Wolverine. That X-Men movie was really the type specimen of that species of film.

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 07, 2017 10:29 PM  

Emmanuel Mateo-Morales wrote:@42

"It should be noted that the first really modern superhero film wasn't Ironman, it was X-Men*. From way back in 2000."

Wrong again, Cataline. Blade would like an answer with you. Heck, Batman 1989 would like an answer with you.


I said, "modern" superhero film. In terms of film school grammar I am correct in my assessment. Although I grant that I didn't define my term.


Superman 1978 is not modern in terms of film grammar, pacing or action sequences. And did not take the hero's world seriously. It was camp.

The Tim Burton Batman movies also are not modern nor were they superhero movies. They were Tim Burton movies. The man does not do action. OR at lest not well. The fight scenes were sluggish and badly choreographed even by late 1980s standards. And while not camp the hero's world was surreal.

The later two movies were of course, deliberate camp.

Now, Blade (1998), you can actually make an argument for being the first "modern" superhero movie. In terms of film grammar, pacing and action sequences, it does meet my criteria. Now, I tend to dismiss Blade as Soul Buffy myself but you can make the argument. The thing is I just don't regard the Blade character as a superhero. Call that one a person assessment.

@James Dixon

(*Cataline raises an eyebrow*) Have you ever seen Wonder Woman 1974?


Link to clip, helpfully provided.

Blogger Bobiojimbo November 08, 2017 12:30 AM  

@12 Sounds an awful lot like Jim Sterling.

Anonymous Laz November 08, 2017 2:09 AM  

"Call that one a person assessment."

There are more of us than you know.

Anonymous Laz November 08, 2017 2:14 AM  

"Robert Downey was a fit 42 year old when he made Ironman. Now their masthead action star is 52 and is making, "I'm about done," noises. For reference Hugh Jackman threw in the towel at 48."

Seriously? Downey has never been fit compared to Jackman, if he ever was fit. All he had to do was play a narcissistic playboy, which has been his actual lifestyle since forever. Jackman, on the other hand, had to stay PUMPED for a couple decades to make Wolverine believable.

Anonymous vfm November 08, 2017 6:30 AM  

"Nope. The deal with the Navy is: you get the Navy and you give up drugs. You want the drugs, you have to give up the Navy. The rules are simple; the choice was yours. ANY game you play has rules. If you won't play by the rules, you can't play the game."

What rate did you retire at?

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 08, 2017 6:50 AM  

@Laz

Nerd!

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 08, 2017 7:25 AM  

@Matt

Your answer was much more on point than mine.

Blogger Ned November 08, 2017 7:51 AM  

Didn't know who Mr. Chipman was before VD's post. But from the look of him, perhaps he's going for the all time weight record.

Blogger James Dixon November 08, 2017 8:32 AM  

> (*Cataline raises an eyebrow*) Have you ever seen Wonder Woman 1974?

How do you think I knew it existed? But note that I was comparing them to the films Emmanuel Mateo-Morales mentioned, not yours.

Your definition of modern is obviously far different than mine though. For me, anything in color would be considered modern.

Blogger James Dixon November 08, 2017 8:39 AM  

> it's not really a... ya know... modern Superhero film, is it?

Define modern. It's in color.

> Also, Wonder Woman was a tv series, so, non-sequitor bring it up.

The Wonder Woman I linked to wasn't the Lynda Carter TV series.

Anonymous Shut up rabbit November 08, 2017 2:01 PM  

Didn't @RAZ0RFIST eviscerate movieblob a while back? Shame that online assassinations don't translate into real life.

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