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Tuesday, November 07, 2017

Virginia is a Democratic state

Congratulations, civic nationalists. This projected win in the gubernatorial race in Virginia is what is absolutely bound to happen when you import sufficient not-American people, as anyone who has ever lived in a not-American country should recognize.
Ralph Northam (D) has been elected next governor of Virginia, defeating Ed Gillespie (R).
The result is hardly a surprise even though the Democratic Party is in complete disarray across the country. Enough Americans have been replaced with Fake Americans in the home state of Thomas Jefferson and Robert E. Lee that neither Donald Trump nor an establishment Republican are able to win there.

The God-Emperor is unconcerned.
Ed Gillespie worked hard but did not embrace me or what I stand for. Don’t forget, Republicans won 4 out of 4 House seats, and with the economy doing record numbers, we will continue to win, even bigger than before!

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146 Comments:

Anonymous Icicle November 07, 2017 8:38 PM  

Virginia needs to add more MS-13 members to the ones that they already have.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti November 07, 2017 8:41 PM  

Ann Coulter pointed out that what happened to VA will happen to the rest of the USA, unless we build the wall and deport the illegals.

But obviously that's not going to happen. Rather than doing the sensible thing, we are going to plunge headlong into a civil war instead. I suppose you're right, Vox: at this point, it's inevitable.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 07, 2017 8:43 PM  

Policy is politics, politics is demographics, demographics is destiny.

Blogger John Williams November 07, 2017 8:45 PM  

@2 Can the Low Testosterone Observer please explain why?

Blogger Michael Neal November 07, 2017 8:46 PM  

nations that want a boost in hard working people should start offering relocation packages for Americans wanting to leave

Anonymous #5454 November 07, 2017 8:48 PM  

If enough Americans were convinced that significant numbers of their countrymen were preparing for CW2 - Electric Boogaloo, would they begin to find their spine and begin doing the needful? Doing all they can to avoid an unimaginable future?

Sort of like a domestic Reagan-esque Peace through Strength.

Anonymous johnc November 07, 2017 8:49 PM  

I guess the VA legislature numbers aren't looking good. Can't beat third-world demographics.

Anonymous Aeoli Pera November 07, 2017 8:51 PM  

Further expanded! Sperging is so much fun it ought to be illegal.

Personnel is policy, policy is government, government is politics, politics is demographics, demographics is destiny

Anonymous Bobby Farr November 07, 2017 8:51 PM  

Gillespie is as much of an establishment cuck as it is possible to be. Good riddance.

Blogger Michael Neal November 07, 2017 8:53 PM  

Yes ed was the king of Virginia cuckservatism he only started doing better when he afopted trump tactics but it was too late

Blogger VD November 07, 2017 8:56 PM  

If enough Americans were convinced that significant numbers of their countrymen were preparing for CW2 - Electric Boogaloo, would they begin to find their spine and begin doing the needful?

No. Stop trying to fix it. It's over. Start preparing for that.

Anonymous Pitcrew November 07, 2017 8:57 PM  

Absent Fairfax County, Gillespie dominated. With a Fairfax County with 1990's demographics, Gillespie still dominates. Gillespie still wins with a 2009 Fairfax County. VA is now past the tipping point. This is what it looks like. Trump is the reprieve and slows the decline, but you just can't insert right wing genes into left wing migrant populations. This is why the Alt-lite and libertarians will fail.

Anonymous Clay November 07, 2017 9:01 PM  

When you have negros, voting for negros...guess who wins?

I understand why Nate moved to the true South.

Anonymous Faceless November 07, 2017 9:03 PM  

@14

Funny, didn't Ed Gillespie orchestrate the election of the guy who made sure those demographics changed?

Anonymous DissidentRight November 07, 2017 9:04 PM  

Drain the Virginia Swamp.

Blogger Michael Neal November 07, 2017 9:05 PM  

How do we prepare? The only option i see is to exit the USA while you still can

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 9:11 PM  

Not surprised. Then again, from my POV, I didn't even know that Gillespie was the GOP nominee until sometime last month. For people that want to blame Bannon for this loss, there wasn't exactly a lot of buildup for this race, so it isn't a huge disappointment. Just wasn't a priority for this cycle. I'd be looking at places like PA and MI next year as your true bellwethers as to how the winds are blowing.

Anonymous Pitcrew November 07, 2017 9:12 PM  

@16

Yes, but he appeared to embrace Bannonism. He turned away from the "dark side". Anyways, VA is pozzed. My entire family and I got the polls today. They were packed. MAGA hats, red, camo, and Americana all over. Wasn't enough. Writing is on the wall for me. Time to move to a redder state, by God.

Anonymous Clownworlder November 07, 2017 9:12 PM  

AMERIKWA, LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT:

Trans Candidate Tops Longtime Republican Incumbent...

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/virginia-elects-house-of-delegates-results-roem-marshall-race-13th-district-455855633.html

Blogger Retrenched November 07, 2017 9:15 PM  

"Latinos are Republicans they just don't know it yet"- Ronald Reagan, 1986

Yep, any minute now Ronnie, they're gonna embrace smaller government, lower taxes and individual liberty...

Blogger Stephen Davenport November 07, 2017 9:20 PM  

The problem with Virginia Republicans ( I live in Virginia) is they are dominated by establishment types, thus we get a Bush never trumper like Gillespie. Most of the state is conservative but cannot get around the upper DC counties with the carpet baggers and swamp things. Basically we are like New York, there is NYC and then the peasants in the up country. It is what it is, the Virginia GOP needs to get its head out of its asses to be able to have a chance in state wide elections. I do not believe this was about Trump but more about the GOP picked a establishment Bush pick. IMO

Blogger Retrenched November 07, 2017 9:23 PM  

GOP: *complicated argument on defense of the Constitution and the free market*

Dems: "lol whatev"
*imports third world, gives them the vote*
Yay we win!

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 07, 2017 9:27 PM  

I have to agree. The VA GOP has a very strong establishment tendency, they'll go for the squish just about every time.

I'd love to see a swap...give the DC suburbs to Maryland in exchange for Western and Southern Maryland. God knows we'd give a lot for freedom from the I-95 Axis of Evil.

Blogger The Observer November 07, 2017 9:30 PM  

@25: It always ends the same way - with the expansion of the voting franchise until it collapses.

Always easier to vote in a new people than to fix the problems.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr November 07, 2017 9:32 PM  

I'll add one thing...I believe the Patrician Plutocrat wing of the GOP thinks purely in terms of money. To them, "civic nationalism" is indistinguishable from greed. It's the desire to come to the USA and make money.

To the Populist Conservative/Libertarian wing of the party, "civic nationalism" is a desire to adopt American culture. A desire to BE one of us.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 07, 2017 9:34 PM  

Retrenched wrote:
"Latinos are Republicans they just don't know it yet"- Ronald Reagan, 1986

Yep, any minute now Ronnie, they're gonna embrace smaller government, lower taxes and individual liberty...


Just like they do in the failed states in Latin America (Mexico, Venezuela, etc. etc.) Magic dirt isn't real. As for Reagan, it was merely an early appeal on behalf of the cloud people who pulled his strings for better lawn negroes than the ones they were paying too much for.

Blogger Bob Loblaw November 07, 2017 9:35 PM  

This is probably less about Latinos than it is about the fact that northern VA is full of people who work for the federal government, and swamp dwellers don't have any interest in a drained swamp.

Anonymous Pitcrew November 07, 2017 9:40 PM  

@30

What they fail to realize is that if Trump doesn't drain it, nature will. They assuredly would prefer TGE's draino to the alternative.

Anonymous trev006 November 07, 2017 9:41 PM  

Defense contractors and lobbyists near DC are almost certain to be Bushbots. No surprise

I must admit, though, if Vox was wrong and Virginia had recognizable demographics, the truck-murder ad should have completely annihilated Northam.

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass November 07, 2017 9:51 PM  

@Michael how long have you lived here? Have you no sense of home?

@Retrenched Next time I hear someone talk about how great Reagan was, I'll remind them that one thing he screwed up big was amnesty and Mexicans.

Anonymous Raptor disrespect from behind November 07, 2017 9:59 PM  

Eh don't forget that fairfax county is only 60% white. It has a 30% foreign born population. FCPS is majority minority. Even the commie rag, the Washington Post has noted test scores in the DC area are decreasing due to changing demographics.

In 2015, the most common birthplace for the foreign-born residents of Virginia was El Salvador, the natal country of 96,515 Virginia residents, followed by India with 77,287 and Mexico with 60,376.

Blogger WynnLloyd November 07, 2017 10:03 PM  

It's like we're in a risk game and each side is gobbeling up what it can. The thing is though that this election gave us no candidate on our side.
I agree with this post wholeheartedly. Damn civic nationalists.
The 1950s are never coming back. Hell, the 1989s aren't, even. The promised land these guys lived in is gone forever. They need to face reality so badly but it seems to just be beyond them.
They are like priests with a hip, urban mass wondering why the pews are empty. Sad, but contemptuous at the same time

Anonymous johnc November 07, 2017 10:06 PM  

Don't forget that the GOP and Dems are working together. Politics is all kabuki theatre. One side gives this to get that in return. That's how Chris Christie won re-election four years ago.

Apparently many Democrats ran uncontested in the VA House.

Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 10:11 PM  

VD wrote:No. Stop trying to fix it. It's over. Start preparing for that.

OK. I'll take the hit.

The Alt-Right is inevitable, but its goals are unatainable?

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 10:13 PM  

trev006 wrote:Defense contractors and lobbyists near DC are almost certain to be Bushbots. No surprise.

Well, maybe in NoVA, but not all of us were on the Bush train all the time. Hell, some of us, being on the inside, do have a unique perspective that could prove useful. As for the Federal civil service corps, there are those that sort of feel the same way, too. The problem is they let the politics seep into their everyday work, and they end up worrying more about that then their actual jobs. It's quite frustrating.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 07, 2017 10:18 PM  

Lazarus wrote:The Alt-Right is inevitable, but its goals are unatainable?

Unattainable? Hardly.

What we need to be thinking about is that whatever goals the Alt-Right has, they're not going to magically be obtained overnight. If you couch your perspective in eschewing the instant gratification for a longer term outlook, there's no reason to think that anything is "unattainable".

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 07, 2017 10:20 PM  

@6 Michael Neal
Michael Neal wrote:nations that want a boost in hard working people should start offering relocation packages for Americans wanting to leave

I have lived and worked in 5 countries, some Western and others Eastern, I'd strongly suggest doubling down and accepting the fact that things will need to be fixed in the USA by Americans. Some ideas may be the following:
1. Reduce immigration to all but the most qualified.
2. Address the genetic problem, possibly modeling after China's current program.
3. If possible, end the federal research and repeal the 16th amendment. This will do a lot to end the incentives to stay in American while not being productive - and alone my see large numbers of people leave voluntarily while retaining those providing value.
4. Individual States must reassert their rights, over that of the federal government.
5. If worse came to worse, to avoid a civil war, then perhaps legal succession of a number of States would be the last option when all others have failed.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 07, 2017 10:22 PM  

Incidentally, last year I noticed Voxday was blocked in China. I'm not sure if that was all of the Blogspot domain? I'll try to remember to check again next time I'm there (which will be relatively soon).

Blogger Mountain Man November 07, 2017 10:25 PM  

"Steve Bannon already admits his role is to destroy the GOP and conservatism. We are now witnessing the consequences. God help us."

Agreed...its a major worry of mine as well...so stressed my loafers haven't been polished or my bowtie straightened - in days. Where else can the closet pedos go where they can find safety while continuing with their noble public service of looting of this country of its remaining wealth.
Many a sleepless night has been spent in anxiety - deeply concerned about the fate of this great political party and most importantly its selfless leaders.

Blogger GraceIronwood November 07, 2017 10:25 PM  

LT Observer wrote:Gillespie adopted white nationalism (alt-retardism) and Drumph’s thuggish rhetoric. Steve Bannon already admits his role is to destroy the GOP and conservatism. We are now witnessing the consequences. God help us.

Can't happen soon enough.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 07, 2017 10:25 PM  

"No. Stop trying to fix it. It's over. Start preparing for that."

Other than moving to Italy, how might an individual prepare? Any suggestions to do or not do?

Blogger Cluebat Vanexodar November 07, 2017 10:26 PM  

When I lived in The Netherlands I had one guy tell me that since the United States was such a powerful country, Europeans should be able to vote for POTUS. He was quite serious.

Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 10:31 PM  

SemiSpook37 wrote:If you couch your perspective in eschewing the instant gratification for a longer term outlook, there's no reason to think that anything is "unattainable".

The Republic is dead! Long live the Republic?

Blogger Lance E November 07, 2017 10:38 PM  

I'm sure demographics didn't help, but it looks like nearly half of the white voters went blue in this election. I think Bob is right - it's practically a Communist state and those worthless parasites working for the government aren't going to vote against their own interests, establishment or not.

A more openly pro-Trump candidate might have been able to mobilize more of the non-cucked base, though. Gillespie made some of the right moves, but far too little and far too late.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti November 07, 2017 10:38 PM  

The Republic is dead! Long live the Republic?

I very much doubt that what comes after the USA will be a republic. Perhaps one of the successor states, but I doubt it. Democracy is a terrible idea and doesn't appear capable of perduring for more than 2 or 3 centuries at a time.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener November 07, 2017 10:41 PM  

This seems timely.

Yay diversity!

Blogger Some Guy November 07, 2017 10:47 PM  

we are beyond the point of repairing this. The question is will it be a peaceful separation or not. China has already laid the groundwork for world hegemony. We need to look to the future not at maintaining the past.

Anonymous Simplytimothy November 07, 2017 10:51 PM  

Does your immigrant help remain appropriately deferential?

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum November 07, 2017 10:54 PM  

The Alt-Right is inevitable, but its goals are unatainable?

There's no contradiction in Vox's reading of the tea leaves: the Alt-Right IS inevitable, regardless of how it is named, and the U.S. is very probably done like dinner as an undivided entity. How that all plays out remains to be seen.

Blogger Lazarus November 07, 2017 10:59 PM  

Some Guy wrote:Unfortunately, l believe Christendom will loose. Christ won’t loose however.

It has been weighed in the balance and found wanting.

Anonymous Didas Kalos November 07, 2017 11:09 PM  

Didn't the last Governor put 130K new felon voters in the voting rolls?

Blogger Anchorman November 07, 2017 11:10 PM  

And the NEVERTRUMPers say, "Twas an honorable defeat, old chap!"

Anonymous Clueless Cuckservative November 07, 2017 11:12 PM  

But...but....but...muh NAYshun of IMMIgrunts! Muh ah-sim-uhl-AY-shun! Muh NATchrul conSERVuhtuves! Muh magic dirt! Muh magic dirt always works! 50 years isn't long enuff!

Give muh magic dirt more time! It's gotta work!

Blogger ZhukovG November 07, 2017 11:20 PM  

@Lazarus: The Alt-Right is inevitable and so is the fracturing of the American Union. We must begin to prepare the foundation for an Alt-Right successor state capable of seizing the US Nuclear Arsenal. Not unlike the Russian Federation after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

From there we can decide whether or not we retake what was once the United States.

As for Virginia, no big deal. Virginia frequently elects Democrat Governors.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky November 07, 2017 11:21 PM  

I expected Gillespie to lose, he ran a terrible RINO cucky campaign up until the homestretch when it was too late. But this is a wipeout worse than predicted by far. We lost 16 seats in the House of Delegates. Catastrophe.

And, one of the new Dem delegates is a tranny. This happened in a Prince William County district that covers Manassas. That ain't no uppity yuppie SJW neck of the woods there, yall. Far from it. Yikes. It's simply incredible to see how far, how fast this area has fallen. This truly is no longer America where I live, and it wasn't that way at all 20 years ago when I moved into my neighborhood. Stunning.

Anonymous AR November 07, 2017 11:25 PM  

alt-right was/is inevitable
alt-right doesn't define an end state

Blogger Thad tuiol November 07, 2017 11:48 PM  

It's frightening how quickly Virginia has changed since the 90s. When you start seeing out-of-the-closet degenerate trannies getting elected even in still majority white blue collar areas, you know the zeitgeist has shifted greatly. America as currently composed is dead.

Blogger Rashadjin November 07, 2017 11:54 PM  

@50 Darth Dharmakīrti

The Republic is dead! Long live the Republic?
-
I very much doubt that what comes after the USA will be a republic. Perhaps one of the successor states, but I doubt it. Democracy is a terrible idea and doesn't appear capable of perduring for more than 2 or 3 centuries at a time.


I've thought about this, and the problem with a monarchy/dictatorship is that succession will always be a crapshoot. You need a constitution to define limits on the government, and you need a flexible and proactive/reactive way to choose your executive figure. That's a republic, more or less.

The U.S. Constitution + Amendments do need some rewriting - Particularly to bar random, lower judges from meddling with the executive branch or from legislating from the bench, and there's a lot of good history to suggest that term limits need to be put in place for more power positions.

The military industrial complex, in one form or another, needs to exist for a modern military, which means that states will always be subject to the federal government to make national defense work. Border and trade controls say the same.

So the people who put the U.S. together mostly got it right. My current analysis says the structural failure comes down to two factors. 1)The U.S. needs to burn off the vast majority of accumulated bureaucratic and legal bloat which would invariable cut back the massive federal overreach. 2)Christianity wasn't defined as a central tenant in the Constitution in a 'Christianity will be respected in all official capacities' sort of way. It was too easy to weasel in an official position of 'separation of church and state' that expelled Christianity from all public spheres. The loss of Christianity meant the loss of a common moral and value framework which is the death of a democratic anything.

Note: The immigration/demographic crisis is coup more than structural defect. Writing in a % limit on immigration wouldn't have changed anything; probably wouldn't even have been much of a speed bump. Writing in an ethnic majority would likewise be weaseled around in a hundred years or so. I also hold the view that the birthright citizenship debacle isn't a feature of the 14th Amendment but rather of weaseling it into something it's not. It can still be cleaned up since slavery is no longer an issue here.

Speaking of, yeah, slavery and its subsequent abolition is a lot what doomed America. Sort of the original immigration crisis, sort of the basis of the political divide splitting America today. The Christian cultural hegemony didn't last long enough to mend that split.

I need to examine that line of thinking more...

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 12:01 AM  

VD wrote:No. Stop trying to fix it. It's over. Start preparing for that.

Any hints on how we can prepare ourselves and our families, assuming moving overseas is out of the question?

BBGKB's move to Whitopia sounds like a great idea, and I've moved to a Whitopia, too. We've homeschooled our children, and that's turned out rather well.

What other things might be helpful?

OpenID dreadilkzee November 08, 2017 12:14 AM  

How to prepare:

1> Pray:
Psalms 144:
Blessed be the Lord, my rock,
who trains my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle;
...

2> Do
Luke 22:36 - He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one."

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 08, 2017 12:21 AM  

@65 Rashadjin
I need to examine that line of thinking more...

Yeah, but does Jack Ward stand with you?

Blogger weka November 08, 2017 12:22 AM  

And that will end badly.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 12:24 AM  

Rashadjin wrote:I've thought about this, and the problem with a monarchy/dictatorship is that succession will always be a crapshoot. You need a constitution to define limits on the government, and you need a flexible and proactive/reactive way to choose your executive figure. That's a republic, more or less.

How about a king chosen by a senate, senators chosen by the government of the state they represent, a legislature elected by a subset of the people (maybe well-to-do males of the dominant ethnicity) who have the power to tax and approve the king's official spending, but little other power.

The Senate doesn't legislate, but the king must get their consent to approve legislation, enter treaties, go to war, et cetera.

The king could be chosen from a limited subset of the voters. Perhaps voters with grandchildren, successful military service and a successful business. Men who have a stake in the future, and have proven themselves in the past, and only have a few decades left.

The king heads the military, represents the country abroad, functions as judge in disputes between states and in cases of treason against the kingdom.

Any other powers are exercised by the states.

It wouldn't last long, but no system ever does.

Anonymous Clay November 08, 2017 12:26 AM  

Speaking of the monuments, and such:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Sheridan

Shouldn't his statue in DC be torn down?

Where is our brotherhood with the native Americans?

Oh. It's with the football team.

BTW...I'm sure the native Americans just love the statues of Andrew Jackson. Esp. in New Orleans.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 12:31 AM  

Luke 22:36 - He said to them, “But now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one."

Living in the sub-Arctic as I do, "sell your coat to buy a weapon" makes the weapon a matter of life and death, because you don't last long without a coat.

Blogger The Observer November 08, 2017 12:33 AM  

alt-right was/is inevitable
alt-right doesn't define an end state


That's because the End-State for different peoples will look different. The English will have a different ideal end-state than say, Germans or the Swedish. This is only in the European peoples - the Chinese, Sub-Saharan Africans, Jews, Japanese and even Australians are going to have a different ideal social and governmental arrangement for their cultures and peoples.

The idea that there should be a one-size-fits-all political philosophy assumes that all people are mutable - I.E. inherently leftist.

Blogger StrongCoffee61 November 08, 2017 12:44 AM  

I grew up in a Virginia that was White, green, and intensely patriotic.

In the early eighties 12 of the 13 Virginia U.S. house Representatives were Republican, there vast stretches of beautiful pine flatwoods surrounding our neighborhoods, and the great majority of people we saw on a daily basis were Whites who had a powerful sense of proprietorship about our country - we built it, we made it great, and we have to protect it.

Virginia today is a microcosm of the rapidly unfolding megatragedy that is America.
The state is rapidly increasingly brown, grey, and anti-patriotic.

All the woodlands surrounding my neighborhood in Newport News have been destroyed to build box stores, cheap apartment complexes, etc.
The population is increasingly depressingly low IQ and ill behaved blacks and browns who are easily mentally enslaved into government dependency and racial scapegoating. They view the government as their benevolent master instead of a submissive servant.

Better to rule in Hell than serve in Heaven is the true, but unspoken, motto of the Left and with mass low IQ immigration their progressive cancer is killing the greatest nation and the entire West.

Blogger Rashadjin November 08, 2017 12:53 AM  

@68 A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

Yeah, but does Jack Ward stand with you?

I'll take 'Sayings I'm not familiar with because I'm young and dumb' for $200, Alex.

Anonymous Clay November 08, 2017 1:00 AM  

"ill behaved blacks and browns "

Now, that is a nice way of saying it.

OpenID aew51183 November 08, 2017 2:06 AM  

A silver lining to this cloud:

1 - The democratic candidate arguably quieted Trump's base and reduced turnout against him by saying he'd sign an anti-sanctuary-cities bill.

2 - The victory speech was disrupted on live TV by vibrants openly admitting to illegal voting, once again giving the DNC a black eye on the national stage.

What was confirmed tonight is areas with Trump Derangement Syndrome are not going to allow the DNC to collapse fully.

The election to watch is the AL special and Moore. If Moore loses it's time to worry about midterms.

Blogger weka November 08, 2017 2:13 AM  

The democrats are simply trying to make a hegemony out of the people they have imported. This will lead to ethnic voting.

Vox is correct: the same thing is happening in my country where the liberal cities are islands in a lake of conservatism.

This will end badly.

https://twitter.com/westland_will/status/928082903459700736

Anonymous Charlottesvillain November 08, 2017 3:10 AM  

You soyboys are so desperate for good news that you regard a blue candidate beating an establishment Bushie in a blue state to succeed a blue governor as a blow to the alt-right. *pats head* Trump is your president. Trumpslide 2020.

Anonymous Charlottesvillain November 08, 2017 3:20 AM  

That should also say @32.

Blogger Johnny November 08, 2017 4:03 AM  

I would imagine there are a lot of cuckservatives who just don't think about stuff and thus are are go along get along sort of people, easily led. Then there are the goodwill folk who do think about stuff, but are blinded by the notions of radical goodwill. They think the world is a nice place and all you have to do to get along well is to be nice and fair to others. And on a vanity level they imagine thinking other people are nice makes them nice people. It's there proof of personal virtue. Jimmy Carter, the current Pope, and Ronald Reagan fall easily into this category.

There used to be a cowboy humorist named Will Rogers who used to say that he "never met a man he didn't like." What I can recall is how the audience liked to hear it and how pleased with himself he was when he said it, when alas the only accomplishment of this attitude is to give a pass to evil. It is head in the sand niceness. Easy to implement and useless on application.

The problems we have are not institutional, it is cultural, and it is the culture that has to change. And given where we are, nothing short of a calamity will change that.

Blogger Johnny November 08, 2017 4:16 AM  

The thing about our tradition is that inspirational speech has to be simple and direct to be easily sold. No dwelling on nuance. Thus the notions of what our founding fathers sold was a radical version of what they actually wanted to accomplish. What they wanted to do was to empower the responsible elements of their white male population, but they sold it as wanting to empower everybody. And they claimed to be in favor of freedom of religion, but what they actually wanted for the most part, was to shut down the tension and warfare between the various Christian sects of the day. And the "all men are created equal" was actually a desire to shut down the different class groups that were legally in place. Plus they had the ordinary goals of the nationalists of their day. National independence and territorial expansion were among the goals.

Given the circumstance they had to work with they accomplished magnificent things, but the radical contentions linger on and are now being used to damage us. Our radical paternalism has become a weakness being exploited by foreign elements.

Blogger AdognamedOp November 08, 2017 4:26 AM  

Not surprised by these election results. When you have a constant stream of MSM anti-Trump propaganda some voters will be turned. MPAI. Expect them to double down after this.

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 4:55 AM  

What other things might be helpful?

Defend that Whitopia and prevent all incursions.

Anonymous truther November 08, 2017 5:23 AM  

Virgina was always a state full of a bunch of stupid cucks. Thomas Jefferson was obviously an anomaly.

Blogger Phat Repat November 08, 2017 5:28 AM  

@44 I'm here now. And yes, it remains blocked, for most peeps.

@41 You could do away with 90% of Civil Servants with limited impact. Most are AA hires, most don't know what they're doing. If you're in, as it seems, you know most of the work is performed by contractors; and even this is marginal given some of the minority-owned businesses one must deal with. Been there, done that, said keep the t-shirt.

Blogger Ezekiel November 08, 2017 5:30 AM  

VD wrote:What other things might be helpful?

Defend that Whitopia and prevent all incursions.

Best of luck.

You know how Section 8 Housing has gone from being a voucher to help useless people buy apartments in otherwise-normal locations, rather than housing them all in one place? I suspect they do that just to create a problem that can't be solved with molotovs.

Blogger Phat Repat November 08, 2017 5:35 AM  

@77 VD

Everything is being done to prevent you from defending that Whitopia. I live in NoVA and a southern state. The freedom of movement by undesirables is baked in the cake. No preventing them from coming into your Whitopia as of yet. Other than not associating with any of them, I'm at a loss at preventing these "incursions" as you state.

@80 THIS!

Blogger Phat Repat November 08, 2017 5:46 AM  

The only thing I see on the horizon that will end this dismal state of affairs is a complete destruction of the $IMFS. Hyperinflation is a distinct possibility as the stated goal of dollar devaluation by the GE takes hold. This will be bad in the short term but ultimately good in the long term. And perhaps that will lead to the return of many invaders as opportunities will all but evaporate for those not properly connected (whites still hold the vast majority of wealth). Prep accordingly.

Anonymous Ages November 08, 2017 6:03 AM  

The former head of the Republicuck Party during the Bush administration lost in a blue state? You don’t say!

Could the VA GOP have chosen a worse candidate?

Anonymous hyperfit November 08, 2017 6:11 AM  

I grew up in rural Virginia, known as "the other Part" or "the Real South" (out by Roanoke). Most of Virginia outside the definitive black areas, and NOVA, is Red. I don't say this as a consolation, but more to the point Vox and others have made over the years--demographics and birthrates matter--and WHEN YOU THROW IN TENS OF THOUSAND OF CHILDLESS, 'PROFESSIONAL' (RE: GOVT) WOMEN, you get Fairfax, and to a lesser extent, all the DC/VA area. Add in blacks, Muslims and Latinos in Richmond, Hampton Roads--and there you have a blue state.

Wonder if those "progressive" type Whites over at VA Tech and JMU, realize the non-whites in their own state wish them dead.

Blogger Resident Moron™ November 08, 2017 6:24 AM  

@Aoli: there's a shorter version;

Character Is Destiny

It's an ironclad law, utterly unbreakable. I recommend Emerson's essay on Compensation, a vastly under-appreciated work of genius.

Blogger Doom November 08, 2017 6:33 AM  

Gosh, if today is all they have? Even they know they didn't win anything. Keeping deep red red isn't a win. (Yes, msm and fools who accept it call leftist states blue. I know better. So should most of you.) With the red party at a 25 year low, this means less than nothing.

Blogger JaimeInTexas November 08, 2017 7:06 AM  

Secession. It is secession.

To reclaim a power/authority, temporarily and conditionally ceded/delegated to an agent or representative.

Anonymous Moar proof Virginia November 08, 2017 7:10 AM  

"First openly transgender state legislator elected in Virginia..."

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/first-openly-transgender-state-legislator-elected-in-virginia/ar-BBEHmsT?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=ientp

Blogger Cataline Sergius November 08, 2017 7:17 AM  

@84

It's the same everywhere. Illinois would be solid red if it wasn't for Cook county. New York state is in the same boat. Colorado. Washington state. Nevada is now being invaded by Californians who made their state inhabitable but (of course) learned nothing from it.

Michigan is doing a little better these days but only because Detroit is such a disaster that the professional voting classes have finally fled in terror.

Blogger Bastion Harm November 08, 2017 7:26 AM  

So, at the last hour, Ralph Northam came out against Sanctuary Cities....

...and look what his Hispanic pets did to him during his "victory speech":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=44&v=-Lb0xlUts-Q

Yes, this is going to end well. So very well.

Blogger Desdichado November 08, 2017 7:31 AM  

Audacious Epigone has some great statistical breakdowns of the election. There's a lot of lessons to be learned here. He doesn't mention the one that Vox does, and vice versa.

Blogger VD November 08, 2017 7:45 AM  

I'm at a loss at preventing these "incursions" as you state.

It's really not that hard. If you are not willing to fight, then you will lose. Americans are not willing to fight to defend their country, their states, their cities, or their people. It's that simple.

Anonymous Carlen November 08, 2017 7:49 AM  

hyperfit wrote:I grew up in rural Virginia, known as "the other Part" or "the Real South" (out by Roanoke). Most of Virginia outside the definitive black areas, and NOVA, is Red. I don't say this as a consolation, but more to the point Vox and others have made over the years--demographics and birthrates matter--and WHEN YOU THROW IN TENS OF THOUSAND OF CHILDLESS, 'PROFESSIONAL' (RE: GOVT) WOMEN, you get Fairfax, and to a lesser extent, all the DC/VA area. Add in blacks, Muslims and Latinos in Richmond, Hampton Roads--and there you have a blue state.

Wonder if those "progressive" type Whites over at VA Tech and JMU, realize the non-whites in their own state wish them dead.



Don't forget UVA and Charlottesville. There are definite blue incursions in what should be red areas.

Blogger Ransom Smith November 08, 2017 7:58 AM  

Alright. Anger contained.
The Old Dominion is dead. The growth of NGOs and government contractors and H1Bs has ruined it.
Honestly considering moving if and when possible. Virginia is going the way of California and fast.

Anonymous Clay November 08, 2017 8:00 AM  

VD..you could be incorrect. We still have our flag, in Mississippi.

for how long...I dunno. Young folks seem to forget. Public Schooling doesn't help.

Anonymous Ages November 08, 2017 8:25 AM  

@92 VD "Americans are not willing to fight to defend their country, their states, their cities, or their people. It's that simple."

Aside from an armed revolution, which I simply don't see happening unless the government goes for a massive gun grab or something similar, what can really be done?

Refuse to pay your taxes? Get arrested, accomplish nothing.
Threaten the foreign squatters? Get arrested, accomplish nothing.
Take up arms? Get shot, accomplish nothing.
March? Get called names, fired, blackballed, accomplish nothing.
Vote? Accomplish nothing.

Is there really any viable action that can be taken?

Blogger Johnny November 08, 2017 8:35 AM  

Bastion Harm wrote:...and look what his Hispanic pets did to him during his "victory speech":

Given their numbers the Hispanics have been very quiet. Now that they come out, guess what, no compromise is good enough. Our way or the highway is not the start of a pluralist society.

Anonymous Clay November 08, 2017 8:37 AM  

BTW...here is our flag:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Mississippi

We liked the Bonnie Blue, and probably would not object to it to this day.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 8:42 AM  

Ezekiel wrote:You know how Section 8 Housing has gone from being a voucher to help useless people buy apartments in otherwise-normal locations, rather than housing them all in one place?

One thing my little Whitopia has going for it is that our immigrants are Slavs. White, smart, hard working, clannish. Many are born again Christians. Some show signs of assimilating, a generation or two on. Some don't. They're generally good neighbors, either way. Eventual assimilators or not, that clannishness will help them stand against disruptive outsiders.

VD wrote:It's really not that hard. If you are not willing to fight, then you will lose.

I'm moderately optimistic, then. There is potential in the Americans and the Churches here, not just in the Slavs. We see the pot boiling elsewhere, but it's not even warm in our backwater.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 8:50 AM  

Johnny wrote:There used to be a cowboy humorist named Will Rogers who used to say that he "never met a man he didn't like." What I can recall is how the audience liked to hear it ...

My mother, who grew up listening to Will Rogers, told me that was funny because the unstated second part was: you learn to dislike them after you meet them. He never said there was no-one he didn't like.

The obvious lesson was to give everyone a chance, but the unstated part, that drew the laughs, modified it a bit: some people are going to blow that one chance you give them. I can see how modern cucks would take it all wrong.

Anonymous c November 08, 2017 8:53 AM  

Here is just a bit more about our flag...simply for edification:

http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/flags/usa/confed.htm

Don't be calling us pussies...yet.

Blogger Desdichado November 08, 2017 10:23 AM  

Ages wrote:@92 VD "Americans are not willing to fight to defend their country, their states, their cities, or their people. It's that simple."

Aside from an armed revolution, which I simply don't see happening unless the government goes for a massive gun grab or something similar, what can really be done?

Refuse to pay your taxes? Get arrested, accomplish nothing.

Threaten the foreign squatters? Get arrested, accomplish nothing.

Take up arms? Get shot, accomplish nothing.

March? Get called names, fired, blackballed, accomplish nothing.

Vote? Accomplish nothing.

Is there really any viable action that can be taken?

Timing is everything. Help the zeitgeist get there faster, if you can. You probably can't, except at a local level, but that's what is viable action to take right now. And be ready for the more dramatic, decisive action when the time is right.

Anonymous KRYST November 08, 2017 10:41 AM  

Darth Dharmakīrti wrote:what happened to VA will happen to the rest of the USA, unless we build the wall and deport the illegals.

uhhhhhhh what? did you just get here on a tech visa dot boy? where the fawk have the east coast fags been for 30 years? oh ya, in your structured echo chamber that can't hear the cries of the west coast, specifically C A L I F O R N I A.

but thanks for caring...

what happens in CA is what was going to happen to the rest of the USA. and none of you cared or listened...

CA- alpha
other 49- beta

fuck yall. you never listen to the best and brightest smart burning hot white people on the frontline out west, you fucking east coast monotonous pussies.

Anonymous BBGKB November 08, 2017 11:25 AM  

would they begin to find their spine and begin doing the needful? Doing all they can to avoid an unimaginable future?

Which is the unimaginable future? Killing black/brown/jew kids or having Asians/Whites be enslaved to pay for Latrina's 21 crackbabies? We are practically there on the latter. No electricity or water flowing in DieVerse Cities? South Africa's capital went from being a Nuke Power to rolling brownouts bad water in less than 10 years. In fact look to South Africa child killings to expand your imagination.

The Alt-Right is inevitable, but its goals are unatainable?

Someone is doubting the Holocost. the inquisition. and Pinochet's magic helicopter.

Any hints on how we can prepare ourselves and our families, assuming moving overseas is out of the question?

There is an entire prepper community out there. Perhaps I should write
"BGS's guide for beginning preppers: Survive the NigApocalypse in Style"

who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one."..Living in the sub-Arctic as I do, "sell your coat to buy a weapon" makes the weapon

Do you seriously think fur coats didn't exist in roman times? Cloaks in Greek/Italian + further south areas were more for fashion than survivability. Sell your mink coat, then buy gore tex coat + gun. In the book 48 Laws of Power, one deals with a fine cloak given to a startup.

Section 8 Housing has gone from being a voucher ... I suspect they do that just to create a problem that can't be solved with molotovs.

They thought the could keep playing the racist holocost card, the Sect 8 plan was to have blacks rape/kill whites in the suburbs instead of just other blacks
http://www.vdare.com/articles/social-engineers-move-inner-city-crime-to-suburbs-developers-delighted

Is there really any viable action that can be taken?

Leaving out buckets of Hemlock Fried Chicken? It's not like someone with just a rifle could take out electricity to a DieVerseCity and have the Free Stuff Army attack for us.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-grid-attack-20140211-story.html
http://weaponsman.com/?p=13598

OT: Spain might not be a good place to flee to
Spain pushes bill to block parents rights to stop child sex change operations
https://www.christianpost.com/news/evangelicals-spain-fighting-bill-stripping-parents-rights-stop-childrens-sex-change-204934/

Blogger DonReynolds November 08, 2017 11:42 AM  

Others in the South know that Virginia was lost decades ago, primarily through foreign invasion and domestic migration into Northern Virginia. The Old Dominion has become another Border State.

Yes, the Mason-Dixon Line has long since moved south.

Do not allow habit or historic sentiment to keep Virginia on the list of states in the South.

The abbreviated South, the future South, is North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Oklahoma.....and all states south of this line.

Of course, we have people outside the South (in all 50 states) and when the time comes we need to be prepared to receive them. Some will come home because they want to and some will return because they are driven out where they are now.

Likewise, we need to make it easy and simple for people who are not Southern to leave peacefully when they care to leave. We will need the space. Invaders and carpetbaggers need to make plans now. There is not much time.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 08, 2017 11:48 AM  

Didn't the last Governor put 130K new felon voters in the voting rolls?

Yes of course he did. Moreover, there was massive voting by illegals documented in several states in the 2016 election, in which Trump lost Virginia. The governor you refer to was Terry McAuliffe of the Clinton Crime family, so there's a very high chance that 100,000 or more of the illegal lawn boys and nannies voted. None of the massive vote fraud operations of Democrats has come under any sort of legal contest from Trump, Sessions & Co. - much less any of the Repuke party regulars.

Bear in mind that this "opposition" party, has voluntarily abided by a consent decree issued in 1983 by a Federal blackrobe under which they will not bring any action in the courts against vote-fraud in sacred minority districts nationwide. Translation for the public-skoo edumacayted: Dindus, Mexicans and all others in the D-Jersey coalition get to vote as often as they like in districts they control. Because blackrobe say so.

The No Testosterone Cucktroll above was of course screeching about Bannon's cry to destroy the Gay Old Pedobears, of whom Ed Gillespie was a member in excellent standing (though 'stand' is really not a term to associate with that crowd, since bending over is much closer to the mark).

Conservatives like Gillespie have conserved nothing except for the left's massive gains over several decades running now. They absolutely need to be destroyed, burned to the ground and the earth on which the ashes lay throughly salted. One cannot fight wars when your "allies" and "friends" and (((fellow white people))) are continually waging war against you from inside your own lines.

Anonymous Ages November 08, 2017 11:52 AM  

@102 Timing is everything. Help the zeitgeist get there faster, if you can. You probably can't, except at a local level, but that's what is viable action to take right now. And be ready for the more dramatic, decisive action when the time is right.

I suppose you're right. Now is the time to think about the future, but the concrete action we need to take is (1) wake people up, and (2) solidify those who are disposed to AR positions.

Just as with Trump's election, there are a lot of like-minded people hiding in the shadows. Unfortunately, the environment still isn't great for everyone to be open about their views. And maybe it won't be until the very end.

Maybe this will go over like the Soviet collapse, where dramatic, unimaginable shifts happened literally overnight.

Those who are considering moving ought to consider where future battle lines and borders may be drawn.

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 08, 2017 11:57 AM  

There is an entire prepper community out there. Perhaps I should write
"BGS's guide for beginning preppers: Survive the NigApocalypse in Style"


You seriously should. Do it in e-book format before any attempt at paperback. There's a lot of stuff out there of course but a good, accurate and concise overview plus lots of references for where to go for the details would no doubt come in handy to many who are only now starting awaken from their stupor.

Blogger James Dixon November 08, 2017 12:02 PM  

> How do we prepare? The only option i see is to exit the USA while you still can

That's one option, yes. There are others.

> The Alt-Right is inevitable, but its goals are unatainable?

Failure is always an option. But I don't think the rest of the world will like our failure mode.

> If worse came to worse, to avoid a civil war,

We're already in a civil war, it's just at the voting stage now.

> Other than moving to Italy, how might an individual prepare? Any suggestions to do or not do?

Move to a small town or rural area and develop good relationships with your neighbors.

> Aside from an armed revolution, which I simply don't see happening unless the government goes for a massive gun grab or something similar, what can really be done?

What makes you think they won't go for a massive gun grab? It's absolutely certain Hillary would have.

Blogger DonReynolds November 08, 2017 12:16 PM  

@106 Gen. Kong
"Translation for the public-skoo edumacayted: Dindus, Mexicans and all others in the D-Jersey coalition get to vote as often as they like in districts they control. Because blackrobe say so."

In districts they control is one thing, but we have a very serious problem of hundreds of thousands of people voting in more than one state. (Would that be called the Crossover Vote?) Leftist Liberals do not have a problem with voter fraud because they are the High Practitioners of Voter Fraud.

Even without voter fraud, the deck is stacked in the Constitution in favor of the states with smaller population and nowhere in the country is it more convenient to vote in multiple states on election day than in the New England region of states. Not only is the vote of New Englanders exaggerated to start with, but voter fraud magnifies that exaggerated vote across multiple states....each with their own electoral votes.

Blogger Michael Neal November 08, 2017 12:28 PM  

There are no jobs in small towns it's a catch 22

Blogger PD Quig November 08, 2017 12:36 PM  

PDT's continuing claims of credit for the stock market is based in truth--he clearly has inspired consumer and business confidence. It's also risky. Trump has done what he can, but the markets are in nosebleed territory. Given the risk environment, he should realize that claiming credit on the upside (another 10-20%?) means that he gets blame on the downside (30-60%?). If he is in the WH when a serious flush and reversion to the mean comes along, he is going to catch hell. Instead, he should point out, rightly, that the markets are responding to expectations but that the people need to keep pressure on Congress to perform. He could also help his case immensely by destroying the Dems by investigating and indicting their corrupt actors. He may be working on that in the background, but it is painfully slow in coming. Here's hoping.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 08, 2017 12:52 PM  

@104 BBKGB
Perhaps I should write "BGS's guide for beginning preppers: Survive the NigApocalypse in Style"

Then put it on Amazon as an Epub. Charge $5 or less to download. Reference Chuck Tingle in a fake review for more visibility. Win-win!

Anonymous Gen. Kong November 08, 2017 12:57 PM  

What makes you think they won't go for a massive gun grab? It's absolutely certain Hillary would have.

Not just Cruella Depends. At least 75% of the Gay Old Pedos would vote for it of ordered to by the cloud people who own their souls - and the photos of their Epstein Island festivities. You will note that despite all of the NRA's supposedly massive lobbying apparatus, not a single federal gun law has been reversed. (Please don't try to argue that allowing the "assault weapon" ban to expire is a reversal - Chimpy McFlightsuit and his cloud people bosses wanted the extension but they chickened out over possible public backlash).

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 08, 2017 1:01 PM  

Ezekiel wrote:I suspect they do that just to create a problem that can't be solved with molotovs.
It can be solved much more quietly but just as finally, one apartment-full of detritus at a time.  The interesting thing about the quiet part is that the results will generally take hours or even days to be discovered; the only immediate effect is that it will get quiet.  Then the panic will set in as more and more turn up.

One of the results of the panic will be that the detritus will flee back to where they are the majority and they don't have death stalking them in their beds.  THEN you can go back to Molotovs.

Around here the detritus generally lives in trailer parks.  Those are easy, as there's only one entry door.  Put something on the door to take out anyone who gets that far, hit with Molotovs... done.

Blogger Eric Slate November 08, 2017 1:04 PM  

Next stop is the social war between Marius and Sulla.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 08, 2017 1:20 PM  

We need a leader. I thought Trump might be that guy, and while I am very glad he won and would vote for him again, I don't think he is the leader we need. His waffling on DACA amnesty and his questionable personnel appointments make me think he really doesn't understand. But, in the meantime, we can hope he can be the placeholder.

2018 and 2020 will be interesting as we see how much of an impact Generation Z will have as they begin voting in large numbers. Might be our last chance to avoid a messy civil was, but I am not optimistic.

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 1:24 PM  

@111. Michael Neal

You have to find the sweet spot. Close enough to the flames to stay warm but not so close you get burned.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 08, 2017 1:25 PM  

And RE: Virginia, it wasn't the Gov. race that was unexpected. It was the massacre of the Republican supermajority in the House of Delegates. That means redistricting for the Dems in 2020 will add more Dem seats to the House of Representatives in 2022. Also, in Georgia, 2 deep red seats went blue in their state House. That is a bit ominous.

Now, the out of power party usually does gain in non-presidential election years. But, with the GOP doing NOTHING in Congress, it's looking like a 2018 bloodbath. If Trump could get the GOP to get that wall built before 2018 and AT LEAST get rid of the individual mandate, I think that would help a lot.

Stay tuned....

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 1:28 PM  

117. Undocumented Civilizationalist

Trump is not the leader, he is warmup. The "leader" is going to make Pinochet look like a limp wristed socialist. And a fair portion on the right will be more then happy to have him there.
The question is does the left take another shot at controlling government, if they do the "leader" that goes after will only be more severe.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 08, 2017 1:32 PM  

120. Grayman:

Frankly, I have been in a "Burn this thing down!" mood since 2012, so I will take a Pinochet, completely understanding that none of this is going to go well for any one.

The demographics are against us now, but that really is ONLY because so many whites vote democratic right now. Does that change in the next 5-10 years? That will also play a big factor in what happens over the next decade or so.

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 1:35 PM  

Virginia, NJ.... they are to be expected and to some degree celebrated. The new cannot rise without the death of the old. The republican party must die for the Alt-right to rise. Its death is certain the only question lies in the details of how. The tighter Dems's grip at power the more they force those of any value to the right as they continue to double and triple down on the dusky hordes and degeneracy.

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 1:50 PM  

121. Undocumented Civilizationalist

The demographics are against us now, but that really is ONLY because so many whites vote democratic right now. Does that change in the next 5-10 years? That will also play a big factor in what happens over the next decade or so.

demographics.... LOL. A motivated intelligent alt-right faction could easily go against black factions with a 50:1 casualty ratio, Hispanics perhaps 10:1 - 20:1.

Understand that once things go hot victory goes to the most capable dealer of death, not the most brutal or most savage, or the nicest or prettiest.
To a capable motivated faction the numerical superiority of your adversary may actually be in your favor. Logistics wins wars, and not just the logistics of food and water, but also psychology. understand the foundations of your opponent and strike them down, the rest of the edifice will collapse under its own weight.
In reality things going hot in the US has the very real possibility of making WWII look like a school yard brawl. Consider the devastation of the second battle of Grozny (1999) and then consider that spread over the major US urban centers. The follow on starvation and disease will kill more than the direct conflict as brutal and horrible as that will be. Worse yet, the starvation and disease will be used as a strategic tool of extermination. This conflict will make Stalin look incompetent when it comes to dealing death.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Grozny_%281999%E2%80%932000%29

Who ever wins had best plan on killing or removing about 100million+ And if you take too long to win the starvation and disease could kill off your group even if you militarily best the other factions. The impact of infrastructure disruption on large populations is wildly underestimated by many. For example the act of shutting down municipal water is an act of war.... Dysentery is indiscriminate and cant be stopped with a bullet.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 08, 2017 2:00 PM  

123. Grayman,

I was speaking of demographics now in the VOTING context. That because so many whites vote for democrats, it is difficult to win elections and stop the slide toward open, hot civil war. My query was whether or not whites would start voting in a greater bloc together, like blacks and Hispanics do, in the next 5-10 years or so.

If we are talking about an actual hot war, whites absolutely hold the advantage in several respects. Still, the numbers killed and the destruction that will ensue would best be avoided. I'm not sure it's possible at this point.

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 2:05 PM  

@124. Undocumented Civilizationalist

Still, the numbers killed and the destruction that will ensue would best be avoided.

Most likely far too late, but time will tell. The only 2 non civil war routes are whites quietly accepting termination or a mutually accepted partition of the nation. Neither is likely for any number of reason.

Blogger DonReynolds November 08, 2017 2:10 PM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:We need a leader. I thought Trump might be that guy, and while I am very glad he won and would vote for him again, I don't think he is the leader we need. His waffling on DACA amnesty and his questionable personnel appointments make me think he really doesn't understand. But, in the meantime, we can hope he can be the placeholder.

2018 and 2020 will be interesting as we see how much of an impact Generation Z will have as they begin voting in large numbers. Might be our last chance to avoid a messy civil was, but I am not optimistic.


Speaking only as a Southerner, I knew that Trump was not the Leader we needed. He is a rich New Yorker with no affection for the South. He is actually much more Liberal than the Liberals would ever admit. He is not the one. You are correct.

As I said before the election, Donald Trump buys the country a little time. Hillary would have launched the chaos and loosed the dogs of war by now. Donald applies the brakes. Not enough to stop but enough to slow the bus before going off the cliff. He buys us time, but he is not the solution.

Vox is correct. There is no fix for what is wrong with this country. There is no solution that will avoid a very messy conflict other than partition, and that is the only solution left to us.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist November 08, 2017 2:22 PM  

126. Don Reynolds:

Yeah, I think the influx of foreigners has proven to be the death knell to any peaceful solution. I actually kind of hoped for awhile that some kind of partition could occur (California wants to secede now. I say, let them!) that could be done peacefully, but I'm skeptical that can happen now. Such are the turns of history and man's folly...

P.S. Vox, started SJWADD last night and I am loving it. I'm having my older teenage sons read it and SJW's Always Lie. I assume (hope?) there will be a 3rd book on projection? ;)

Anonymous Grayman November 08, 2017 2:31 PM  

@127 Undocumented Civilizationalist

Even if you gave the hordes California or even the entire south west, it wont stop them. They do not build empires but consume them. They would simply hollow out their partition then you'd see the same hordes again flow inward. there is no stable solution until a dominant group has been determined and has the fortitude and the ability to enforce its will.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 2:46 PM  

BBGKB wrote:There is an entire prepper community out there. Perhaps I should write "BGS's guide for beginning preppers: Survive the NigApocalypse in Style"

Go for it!

Much of what works in the deep south, like North Dakota and Michigan, doesn't work at 64 degrees North. I've read quite a bit of the prepper literature, and some of it transfers to the subarctic and some doesn't. Someone who has more time than I would probably find a little niche market for advice aimed at the far north.

Blogger DonReynolds November 08, 2017 3:20 PM  

Grayman wrote:@127 Undocumented Civilizationalist

Even if you gave the hordes California or even the entire south west, it wont stop them. They do not build empires but consume them. They would simply hollow out their partition then you'd see the same hordes again flow inward. there is no stable solution until a dominant group has been determined and has the fortitude and the ability to enforce its will.


Very good, Grayman. You are totally correct and for reasons that many here do not realize. But the big reason is the Hispanic mind. They have no concept or experience with COMPROMISE and sharing power is completely foreign to them. (Yes, I have worked along side them for years.)

In the Hispanic mind, either he is the sole authority or you are. There is no compromise. There is no give and take. No negotiation. (He does not see what there is to discuss. Either you are in charge or HE IS. Otherwise, we are playing a little parlor game.)

WE are not dealing with fellow Americans who share much the same history and culture. The Mexican has no such history and his personality is authoritarian.... it is only a question of whether you are the authority or HE IS.

If the dominant American culture is willing to roll over and play dead, the Mexican will be quick to capitalize on that fact and declare himself in charge. As Sam Houston demonstrated in the 1830s, the Mexican cannot be expected to keep any agreement won on the battlefield, or honor any treaty, that is not backed up with large bore weapons.

Blogger Dedd Sirius November 08, 2017 4:10 PM  

I think that God is probably angry at his chosen people, the Jews, and he is likely going to hand them over into some captivity or oppression for a time to punish them. Plenty of examples of this in the Old Testament.

Anonymous BBGKB November 08, 2017 4:52 PM  

literature, and some of it transfers to the subarctic and some doesn't.

An earth sheltered greenhouse along with possibly a rocket mass heater under the grow bed would be ideal for any northern prepper. Even without a heater, $300 earth sheltered greenhouses still have plants growing in the Himalayas with snow outside. Extra insulation for your house will pay off now.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 08, 2017 5:19 PM  

BBGKB wrote:literature, and some of it transfers to the subarctic and some doesn't.

An earth sheltered greenhouse along with possibly a rocket mass heater under the grow bed would be ideal for any northern prepper. Even without a heater, $300 earth sheltered greenhouses still have plants growing in the Himalayas with snow outside. Extra insulation for your house will pay off now.


The Himalayas are WAY further south, and get a lot more solar energy. The sun is at a very low angle in winter, and we get about 15% of full sun when it's cold.

The rocket mass heater to heat a grow bench is something that does work here in the spring.

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 08, 2017 5:20 PM  

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:But, with the GOP doing NOTHING in Congress

This represents much of the Conservatives in the US perfectly , an old dying ideology that just wants to pretend it will all go away if they just close their eyes and they can go on looting.

Fact is the Left even some of the Soy Boys who at least don't mind street fighting and Old Commies have more spine than most of the Right and some Old Commies are willing to sacrifice their own lives. We've had two attacks, both near lethal on Republicans by 60 year old leftists (attacks on Steve Scalisi, Rand Paul) and very possibly a 3rd in Las Vegas Nevada.

The Right doesn't even think about the implications of that. Fact is the other guys can get hard and good too, doubt that ask any USSR vet. Temporary weakness is just that.

Now I obviously don't expect the Right to repeat such act nor would I advocate such a a thing especially in public forum as its illegal and stupid but I can respect the cajones required to do it.

I don't think until recently with the .Alt Right the Right is basically gutless in the broader political world , its been entirely defensive and obedient to an authority that is its enemy

Reminds me of a line from Under Siege actually

Casey Ryback: What made you flip like this?

William Strannix: I got tired of coming up with last-minute desperate solutions to impossible problems created by other fucking people.

Casey Ryback: All of your ridiculous pitiful antics aren't gonna change a thing. You and me, we're puppets in the same sick game. We serve the same master, and he's a lunatic and he's ungrateful. But there's nothing we can do about it. You and me, we're the same.

William Strannix: Oh, no. No, no, no. There's a difference, my man. You have faith. I don't!

That faith needs to go and the way Conservatives do business has to stop no more atomized "me and my family, screw you you" more Tribe , more Race and more "Our Country" to paraphrase We deplorables must hang together or we shall all hang separately

If /When the Right has a rational vision of what they are going to leave to their kids (since unlike the left most of the Right has kids) and might might live to see and can cooperate with others achieve they can take power. Till then, best case scenario is a gun grab resulting in a civil war

Maybe its the 16 points, maybe its something else but you got to have a plan.

Oh one last thing for the love of Kek get smarter than the Bundy bunch. I appreciate the spirit and thew willingness to sacrifice but it was predicable it would fail since the whole operation was made of stupid

Anonymous BBGKB November 08, 2017 6:00 PM  

Perhaps I should write "BGS's guide for beginning preppers: Survive the NigApocalypse in Style"

Then put it on Amazon as an Epub. Charge $5 or less to download. Reference Chuck Tingle in a fake review for more visibility.


Is there a way to hide your identity when doing that, I don't think certain boards approve of people mentioning thinks like "niggerette single moms put lead fishing sinkers in their squatlings mouths for lead paint payoffs because (((Better call Saul))) can get money from landlords even if building was built after lead paint was banned.

Not sure how safe just a regular pen name would be.

Anonymous BBGKB November 08, 2017 6:19 PM  

Sorry if its late but DOUBLE DOWN strategy
http://freebeacon.com/politics/latino-victory-fund-well-double-ad-strategy-following-northams-win/

Anonymous johnc November 08, 2017 6:31 PM  

@131 I think that God is probably angry at his chosen people, the Jews, and he is likely going to hand them over into some captivity or oppression for a time to punish them. Plenty of examples of this in the Old Testament.

I think this is spot-on except for the fact that in the New Covenant, God's chosen people are the Christians and Europeans. So substitute that into your point, and you're right on the money.

Anonymous johnc November 08, 2017 7:05 PM  

@126 There is no solution that will avoid a very messy conflict other than partition, and that is the only solution left to us.

There is still a (semi-)peaceful mechanism to get things back in order: widespread work and tax strikes. We crash the economy and the stock market and say we don't go back to work until our demands are met. Right-leaning white people are at least half of the productive class in this country.

It needs to be better organized and with greater participation than the NFL boycott, but that's a good pattern to follow. And if TPTB know what's good for them, the threat alone will be enough to get their attention.

Anonymous Mr. Rational November 08, 2017 9:16 PM  

Grayman wrote:demographics.... LOL. A motivated intelligent alt-right faction could easily go against black factions with a 50:1 casualty ratio, Hispanics perhaps 10:1 - 20:1.
It would be more like 200:1 and 80:1 once you allow that the non-White wounded would not be able to get hospital care, or probably any professional medical care.  The Alt-Right would start by owning the medical facilities and removing the AA hires.

Alt-Right forces wouldn't bother trying to take buildings one at a time.  It would burn whole swaths of delapidated real estate and use thermal IR gunsights to take out those trying to flee under smoke.  The dying wouldn't even have a chance to see their killers.

Understand that once things go hot victory goes to the most capable dealer of death, not the most brutal or most savage, or the nicest or prettiest.
Damn straight.  The Battle of Rorke's Drift is an example to study.

the starvation and disease will be used as a strategic tool of extermination.
Also the stupidity of the target populations.  So much is done for them that they have no idea how to obtain potable water if the municipal system shuts down.  Mass death will follow quickly.

Who ever wins had best plan on killing or removing about 100million+
I have already calculated the required capacity for tree chippers and rendering plants.  The latter is mostly booked already (we'd need to process OTOO 7.5 million short tons in perhaps 2 years, with surges to several times that rate, and I don't think it's available), but the former has vast unused amounts available.  Composting it will be, and we CAN Compost Everything.

Undocumented Civilizationalist wrote:I actually kind of hoped for awhile that some kind of partition could occur (California wants to secede now. I say, let them!) that could be done peacefully, but I'm skeptical that can happen now.
That's good.  We should take California back, and throw out the Mexican'ts and also the Chinese invaders and their "paper sons".  Indians?  Back to New Delhi on their own dime, or oblivion.

Blogger Rashadjin November 08, 2017 9:18 PM  

RE: @63 Ominous Cowherd

That sounds like a wimpy version of the Roman Republic? Also not a monarchy...

@58

I need to examine that line of thinking more...

Thinking Examined.

The South was ~38.4% Slave (Roughly, Africans) in 1780. South Carolina was ~58% black by 1860, although ~34% slave pop for the South in general.

Slavery being abolished was inevitable. Which lead to these Southern states having a drastic change in voting populations, which tossed the rich whiteys out of power in favor of the multi-ethnic poor (sound familiar?). Which lead rich whiteys (Democrats here) to retake political control via voter fraud and suppression once the feds left. Fraud which somewhat/mostly ended when the feds got back involved ~1960, which miiiight have been part of the reason the Democrat party decided to do the U.S. as had been done to them after the Civil War by passing the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. I'll need to finish reading Cuckservative to get a better picture on that last point.

Damn. Now I can't think of libtards being completely delusional when they say something along the lines of slavery being America's original sin (although not having originated in America, of course).

The U.S. was a dead nation walking from the start, although the double-tap would be 1965. The interesting question is whether 1965 was a response to/inspired by how things went with the abolition of slavery or not. If it was, 1619 was the beginning of the end with the first African slaves. If not, would favor the death by slavery abolition and 1965 Immigration Act double-tap scenario.

Which leads me to...

@92 VD

It's really not that hard. If you are not willing to fight, then you will lose. Americans are not willing to fight to defend their country, their states, their cities, or their people. It's that simple.

Actually, it is kind of that hard. The South did exactly that, you see. First by civil war, then by Jim Crow. In response to that, every organ of importance in US society is designed to prevent whitey from fighting to defend their etc...etc... From Church to School to the FBI. Designed Against.

Except for the internet.

This might be why the Catholics were circulating the Benedict Option not so long ago. It's a stupid, defeatist way to preserve a religion, but it's kind of genius if you have to preserve a culture through civilization collapse.

Fortress hidden in plain sight - probably the way to go. Otherwise gentrification, because if libtards complain about it, it probably works.

Anonymous johnc November 08, 2017 9:26 PM  

This might be why the Catholics were circulating the Benedict Option not so long ago.

That was that Orthodox cuck Rod Dreher.

Blogger Rashadjin November 08, 2017 10:28 PM  

@141 johnc

That was that Orthodox cuck Rod Dreher.

Oh. Good. I'd hate to have to give a point to the Catholics, however grudgingly.

Anonymous AB.Prosper November 09, 2017 12:23 AM  

johnc wrote:There is still a (semi-)peaceful mechanism to get things back in order: widespread work and tax strikes. We crash the economy and the stock market and say we don't go back to work until our demands are met. Right-leaning white people are at least half of the productive class in this country.

That's an industrial age solution and frankly you'll starve before the elite gives enough of an inch to matter. They can't be trusted not to turn on you and implement vicious reprisals at the drop of that hat anyway.

Now labor is by no means obsolete but there is enough global labor and surplus loot to keep the elite comfy longer than the "Right" can keep up a strike, if such a thing can be created at all which I doubt.

Frankly if there are those organizational skills would be better off being put to preparing for the upcoming war. There is no Benedict Option, no White Flight no way out. Its the Truth or Leftist lies . Stop running and fight or die is the upcoming options

To something Rashadjin said, re: institutional takeover by anti White Damn Yankees. So very true. This is war that will require replacement of institutions as well or their elimination.

Also there can be no lazy running back to Monticello 2.0 to live a life of liberty. Not going to happen. The winners are going to be giving a lot of orders to a lot of people, making sure corporations are complying with the new boss, managing institutions , preventing subversion something the Left is amazing at , expelling millions, controlling amoral techies and chartering a lot of Helicopter rides too.

Its not something that has to go on forever but assume if you are a parent of young kids, only your grandkids maybe great grandkids will have the posterity of liberty. Take the boot off too soon and you die

Game of Thrones rules, if you play you win, you rule or you die.

Right now is not the time to go all Anders Brehvik we are gaining strength and converts and there is a slight chance for miracle enough to make the transition much less bloody but as Tex Arcana likes to say Itz coming .

You can see it in the multiple attacks on Right Wing people, get ready to get good, get prepped and get hard

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents November 09, 2017 12:47 AM  

@140 Rashadjin

Which lead rich whiteys (Democrats here) to retake political control via voter fraud and suppression once the feds left. Fraud which somewhat/mostly ended when the feds got back involved ~1960,

I provided a link to Infogalactic's page on the Reconstruction Era and you obviously didn't bother to read it. You know nothing of the history of the US and unable or unwilling to learn. Ignorant and stupid? Or just one?

Clearly you are too short for this ride.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd November 09, 2017 12:50 AM  

Rashadjin wrote:RE: @63 Ominous Cowherd

That sounds like a wimpy version of the Roman Republic? Also not a monarchy...


Not a hereditary monarchy, which might solve the succession problem for a while.

The senate is my attempt to Americanize the House of Lords, using the original selection model for senators. Overall, it's based on the original American model, in which the Federal government had almost no domestic functions.

It might last for a few generations before people figured out how to abuse the system to destruction. Our Republic lasted from about 1776 to about 1860, so if it lasted even a century I'd call it a good run.

OpenID tonsplace November 09, 2017 3:57 AM  

20. Retrenched November 07, 2017 9:15 PM
"Latinos are Republicans they just don't know it yet"- Ronald Reagan, 1986

Yep, any minute now Ronnie, they're gonna embrace smaller government, lower taxes and individual liberty...

............
When has the gop given the USA any of that? Was it during Lincoln's war of Northern aggression? When the gop controlled Congress during reconstruction? Was it when Eisenhower sent federal troops to force integration on the White folks of Little Rock Arkansas? Was it when Nixon created the EPA? Or when the GOP suported the anti White civil rights bullshit? Was it when Ronald Reagan expanded the department's of education and energy? Was it when he gave California no fault divorce.... a bill created by feminist by the way, or when he gave us MLK day, or when he gave us amnesty for taco benders? Was the massive debt he piled up really a move for smaller government and individual liberty? Did Bush 2 some how reduce the size of government with his massive spending programs and domestic spying programs?

The gop has never been the party of smaller government and individual liberty. It was the original progressive party and has remained a progressive party

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