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Thursday, December 14, 2017

"an extraordinarily important book"

Peter Grant, who as priest and soldier has witnessed more things that should not be seen than most of us will see in 100 lifetimes, expresses his thoughts on Moira Greyland's new book:
I've written more than once about child sexual abuse, particularly in the context of the Catholic Church's clergy crisis.  I also had not inconsiderable contact with child molesters and abusers as a prison chaplain.  I wrote about some cases in my memoir of prison ministry.

However, nothing can capture the agony of child abuse, mental, spiritual and physical, like the recollections of an abused child.  Moira Greyland is one such person....

I think this is an extraordinarily important book.  I believe we all need to understand the horrifying impact of child sexual abuse on its victims.  Most of them can't speak for themselves.  I commend and applaud Ms. Greyland's courage in speaking out, not just for herself, but on their behalf, too.

On a personal note, I find this book a ghastly reminder of why I took the stand I did when the Catholic Church hierarchy signally failed (and has continued to fail to this day) to address the issue of clergy sexual abuse in any meaningful way. I don't think the bishops, archbishops and cardinals in general have any idea of just how horrifying is the reality of child sex abuse. If they did, I can't believe they would have allowed their neglect of the situation to continue for so long. Nevertheless, they did . . . and the result for the Church has been catastrophic.  By their wrong actions and deliberate inaction, they have destroyed the faith of millions - their faith in the Church, certainly, and in tragically many cases, their faith in God too. That destruction will be weighed in the scales against them when they come to the Judgment we all must face. I would not like to be in their shoes when that happens.

I can only suggest most strongly that you read Ms. Greyland's book for yourself.
From the first reviews of THE LAST CLOSET: The Dark Side of Avalon:
  • This is a painful book to read, especially if you have children or loved ones. Doubly so if you have the latter who have suffered sexual abuse. Nevertheless, it is a book which absolutely has to be read. I feel almost embarrassed to add it also is an excellent guide to the inner workings of the science fiction circles of 70s and 80s as well but it is. This is a painful book to read about some bizarre grotesques but the sad fact is the very human Alice in her distorted terrible Wonderland was forced to keep much of this secret until now. 
  • A hard book to read, not because of the writing, but because of the subject. But this is a book that should be read. If it can inspire more victims to speak out and educate people to the hidden-in-plain-sight depredations that surround them then it will be worth the struggle of the author to put her life out for all to see.
  • I obtained this book through the Kindle Unlimited program. Here's how important it was to me: I had a backlog of 9 books to read and review, 9 books by 9 good authors, that I expect to enjoy reading. THIS book was just released today, and I grabbed it up, and started reading immediately. Because it was important. It IS important. I just finished about 30 minutes ago; and I found myself being continually astounded that this person is ALIVE, much less strong enough to speak out. 
  • This is an important book. A book of horror and redemption. A book that needed deep courage to write and deep courage to publish. A book that churns the unchurnable stomach. A book that needs bravery to read, bravery to acknowledge the horror, the deep evil, that exists in our fallen world.
  • I didn't mean to even start it, but now that I have, I can't put it down - no matter how much I want to. It is a VERY important book. Astounding.

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41 Comments:

Blogger Nate December 14, 2017 9:57 AM  

and we watch as the liberal side of Sci Fi fandom goes full 3 Monkey.

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Blogger Dexter December 14, 2017 9:58 AM  

I just read Young Man's War and it was fantastic. Can't wait to read more Rod Walker. Not sure I have the fortitude to read Greyland.

Blogger Bucephalus December 14, 2017 10:11 AM  

Just read "The Story of Moira Greyland". Thank you for bringing this to light. It is sickening beyond belief.
The lake that burns with fire and sulfur awaits.
Woody Allen kept popping into my mind- so wrong on so many levels.

Anonymous DTA December 14, 2017 11:09 AM  

When is hardback available?

Anonymous Jay Will December 14, 2017 11:13 AM  

Bait.

Anonymous Anonymous December 14, 2017 11:42 AM  

While Peter Grant leaves me cold, this is indeed an important book. SF fandom will greet it by rapidly walking away. Also significant in itself.

OpenID bernardbrandt December 14, 2017 11:51 AM  

I once decided to calculate the percentage of the U.S. population which participated in child sexual abuse. I looked into the figures for the number of registered sexual offenders for the year 2013. That came to 300,000. One fifth of that cohort had practiced male on male sexual abuse; the remaining four-fifths were men who preyed on Lolitas. 99 percent of those who committed child abuse, whether male or female, were themselves male. In comparing the number of male on male child abusers with the adult male population, I came to the conclusion that the offenders were one twentieth of one percent of the adult male population, or 0.05%.

On reading The Jay Report, the elaborate study of RC priestly child abuse, I learned that five percent (5%) of the RC priesthood had been either accused or convicted of child abuse, and 80% of that was male on male.

I therefore came to the conclusion that RC priests were abusing boys at ONE HUNDRED TIMES the rate of the U.S. population for male on male child abusers. From that, I also came to the conclusion that either 100% of the population of RC priests was homosexual, or that 50% of that population is actively gay.

I concluded that the latter of those two conclusions was the more likely.

Anonymous Undocumented Civilizationalist December 14, 2017 12:01 PM  

I went ahead and bought it this morning. I too think it is going to be a difficult read. But it's necessary too. This kind of stuff has to be exposed and those of us who haven't seen it firsthand, need to understand what it does to its victims.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 14, 2017 12:35 PM  

bernardbrandt wrote:From that, I also came to the conclusion that either 100% of the population of RC priests was homosexual, or that 50% of that population is actively gay.
1) any profession that gives men access to children is going to have disproportionate numbers of molesters. Look a the numbers for school teachers some time.
2) Having had a long experience with Catholic priests, I'd put the number closer to 25%.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab December 14, 2017 12:54 PM  

@6 Bernard some of your guesses are close but they're off because the map is not the territory.

Anonymous BBGKB December 14, 2017 12:56 PM  

Aaron Carter thought he would die by 30 when he was 13, the casting couch was that hard on him.

https://www.queerty.com/aaron-carter-never-thought-hed-live-long-thought-die-30-20171213

Not just pizza https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/12/guy-busted-trying-trade-chicken-alfredo-sprite-sex-underage-boy/

1) any profession that gives men access to children is going to have disproportionate numbers of molesters

If you have a bad feeling about your son having a male peds nurse changing his diapers, go ahead and speak up. A gay Hispanic peds nurse I knew always complained about it.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 14, 2017 1:12 PM  

I finished the book last night, mostly, and then had nightmares. This was horrifying, and I won't be able to read it again for a while. Posting a review later, but first I need to stop shaking as I type. I opened a second application and began a name network of authors and other partly-recalled people from a long time ago, linking her parents to them through different connections that I hadn't known of. I purged a number of authors from my list, after reading about her story at Castalia House blog. A bunch more are now questionable, because the situations and character actions are maybe too similar.

So, the bill for Free Love is now due and payable, with a horrific amount of interest charged.

Snidely and bernardbrant, let's head off the inevitable lane change. The question to work on is not the numbers. The questions are the membership of the review committees that admit or retain seminarians, how they link between dioceses, and where those members are linked to a network like this. Find the initiators and protectors.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 14, 2017 1:18 PM  

Just bought and downloaded The Last Closet. I'm regarding this like I would a trip to the dentist or open heart surgery, but I'm going to read it.

Blogger Dexter December 14, 2017 1:28 PM  

"any profession that gives men access to children is going to have disproportionate numbers of molesters. Look a the numbers for school teachers some time."

Yeah but these days all the molester-teachers are female...

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 14, 2017 1:53 PM  

Dexter wrote:Yeah but these days all the molester-teachers are female...
The ones they 1) go after 2) charge and 3) report on in the paper are female.
Virtually all child molesters are male.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab December 14, 2017 1:59 PM  

@14 Snidely, at one time that was true but that has changed in the last thirty years or so. The big majority are male but not all or virtually all.

Blogger Desdichado December 14, 2017 2:09 PM  

Got a mention at Anonymous Conservative, as well as some speculation on ties to the greater Pizzagate movement. https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/castalia-house-release-the-last-closet-may-be-a-part-of-pizzagate/

Blogger tuberman December 14, 2017 2:29 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Dexter wrote:Yeah but these days all the molester-teachers are female...

The ones they 1) go after 2) charge and 3) report on in the paper are female.

Virtually all child molesters are male.


SW,

Are you ever going to get MOAR red-pilled? There is a reason why WITCHES, and yes, female witches, are considered the furthest depth of depravity? It will be found out that there are mortal Goddesses of this Satanic Cult, and they take it to the limit. They are also usually the biggest money players in child trafficking. No proof, just history, just connecting dots.

Don't worry though the wives and other women are being focused on now. There are, for example, far more high up women in the Rothschild family then men from the notable pictures I've seen.

Have not you seen that the Satanic Rituals are often lead by women?

Feminism and Education will be the Cults last hiding places.

Blogger Nate December 14, 2017 2:35 PM  

as predicted... the book has been greeted by the deafening sound of silence.

Not a word at Whatever or at File 770

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum December 14, 2017 2:58 PM  

Not a word at Whatever or at File 770

Truly, what are you going to say? The book is one hell of an indictment, and not just of her parents.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 14, 2017 3:04 PM  

What on Earth could Phil Sandifer have to say? Though I'm sure he'll read it, over and over again, he daren't comment. Or Alexandra Erin? What could he say that wouldn't confirm what's already obvious?

Blogger Matthew Funk December 14, 2017 3:17 PM  

When is it being printed in physical form?

Anonymous Nathan December 14, 2017 3:45 PM  

"Truly, what are you going to say? The book is one hell of an indictment, and not just of her parents."

Indeed. Convention fandom was a mistake of diabolical origin that introduced a lot of evils into pop culture.

Blogger JACIII December 14, 2017 3:53 PM  

Nope. Not reading it. If you can't already tell from the damage caused to children by mere commonplace divorce and extrapolate the orders of magnitude worse effect sexual abuse would yield, I have no words for you. And abusers parasitically reproduce.

The victims are so broken they are beyond the help of any but God.

Blogger Dave W. December 14, 2017 4:00 PM  

Bought it already. Truly dreading reading it in the near future, but this is important. I think I better stock up on good bourbon beforehand.

Blogger Redpill Angel December 14, 2017 4:07 PM  

22.Nathan said, "Convention fandom was a mistake of diabolical origin that introduced a lot of evils into pop culture." I agree, even while I ask myself why? Even while I marvelled at the concentration of talent, creativity, and genuine brilliance, my jaw dropped at the levels of sickness, both mental and physical. Do all really bright people have these terrible weaknesses, unless they turn to God? Why do high IQ people have a special proclivity for robotic, detached sexual depravity? And Satanism and the occult? Why did I meet so many horrifically sexually abused people there (from long before they found fandom)? Why have the evils of fandom long ago spread outward into culture, until now it seems to be everywhere?

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 14, 2017 5:51 PM  

The victims are so broken they are beyond the help of any but God.

This is both heartless and backward.

God is so great that He has granted his people the power to restore the shattered.

Read nothing else but the acknowledgements in the Last Closet, and you will realize the cruel lie of your comment.

Anonymous Redjack December 14, 2017 7:16 PM  

There are books I can not read. Subjects I can not study.

Not because I don't know what they are. Not because I want to pretend such beings are not walking among.

Because as a father it is one the few things that fills me with such rage that I want to let the red wolf out. I know what such things are. The damage they do to lost children. I know.

And, in small ways, I have fought it. Will fight it. But I have limits to what I want in my head.

May God have mercy on them, for I know I can't.

Blogger Damaris Tighe December 14, 2017 7:21 PM  

DARKSTREAM: As to the vision splendid of the 60's bohemians, Margaret Mead's "anthropology" comes to mind.

Interestingly, after World War, she and her friends spent years influencing US government.They were providing advice on policy.

Blogger tuberman December 14, 2017 7:22 PM  

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Anonymous Just another commenter December 14, 2017 7:59 PM  

@18, @19 - sounds like a great book to mention in the comments at 770. Maybe in every thread. And, for anyone attending a Con ask it at ever panel, or a book-signing by a Big5 author, ask them their opinion of it. Make it something they run shrieking from, and ban your for, thereby bringing on the Streisand Effect.

Blogger Nate December 14, 2017 8:02 PM  

"This is both heartless and backward."

Calling JACiii heartless and backward is just going to make him smile.

Anonymous VFM #6306 December 15, 2017 1:05 AM  

That's funny. I don't care. I'm not saying it is an unusual mistake.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 15, 2017 6:35 AM  

Just another commenter wrote:sounds like a great book to mention in the comments at 770. Maybe in every thread. And, for anyone attending a Con ask it at ever panel, or a book-signing by a Big5 author, ask them their opinion of it. Make it something they run shrieking from, and ban your for, thereby bringing on the Streisand Effect.

That sounds like a brilliant campaign to wage. Stuff this in their faces. Make them acknowledge it. Don't let them off the mat.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 15, 2017 6:37 AM  

Anybody else having a problem posting comments from Pale Moon? I had to post these from Firefox as suddenly my comments made from PM won't show up. Thx

Blogger Quintus Maximus December 15, 2017 10:52 AM  

I'm a third of the way through. I don't think I've been more disgusted and angry and disgusted and sad and pissed off in a long time. If you're a scifi fan, you MUST read this though IMO. This needs to be excised at the roots.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 15, 2017 11:51 AM  

I will do what i can to advertise for this book.

Anonymous Avalanche December 15, 2017 10:31 PM  

@23 "The victims are so broken they are beyond the help of any but God."

So much for compassion and warmth, eh?

The victims ARE surely broken, but a kindly ear and a willingness to FACE what is human (the abusers may be evil, but they are STILL human!); to stand WITH the abused when/if they are able to speak of hell; is a burden that all good people should be willing to carry! IMAGINE someone already feeling absolutely horrible about themselves as a result of such abuse -- and YOU add to it?! You TURN YOU BACK on the survivor?!

Shame on you for turning your hard heart AWAY from helping the victims who ARE able to speak up. SHAME!

Anonymous Millstone December 16, 2017 1:29 PM  

Just finished reading it.

Satan spreads his wings..

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