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Saturday, December 09, 2017

Mailvox: SJWs really do always lie

A note from a reader of SJWAL who discovered that SJWs really have to be encountered to be believed:
Just wanted to thank you for your invaluable insights in SJWAL... I got roped into joining my HOA board a year and a half ago after the former president rage quit due to resident's being angry with her behavior. She actually recommended me as a replacement. I think she actually thought I was an SJW and that she was going to be able to control me since all my interactions with her were friendly agreements in the interests of trying to get her away from me as fast as possible. She is retired so she has plenty of free time and has always been the neighbor that snoops in everyone's business and selectively complains about neighbors she does not like violating minor rules. She had been working on updating the community rules book when she quit and the rest of the board wanted to allow her to stay on the rules committee. Whenever the topic came up, I said "that is fine, but she does realize that the board can vote to accept, reject or modify her proposed rules."

Flash forward this summer and she is still working on the rules with no end in sight. The board has turned over through resignations and only myself and one of her minions remain on the board. The other 3 board members and I agree to place a deadline on the rules committee. To spare you the gory details you don't care about, the committee submitted a proposal on time after much complaining about deadlines.

The board was in the process of reviewing it and suddenly she started meeting, in secret with her minion and working on proposed modifications. We had a board meeting and her minion submitted her proposed changes, we voted on each one individually and some passed and some failed. The next day we get an angry email from her about how we were violating the law if we did not write the rules the way she had proposed. That she as a member of the rules committee she should have been invited to the meeting and included a PS that said the email was to voice her objection to our proposed rule because it was illegal - it's not - and she didn't want to be implicated if the association were sued by a concerned resident.

I wrote the response and made clear they were my opinions alone. I informed her she was not invited because the rules committee was dissolved after the deadline voted upon. I pointed out where she was wrong about the things we rejected and asked her to cite relevant law on the things she was claiming were illegal. I finished the note saying I, personally, did not appreciate the veiled threat in the post script.

She wrote an response to the whole board about how she was crying just reading my "hateful" email. She doubled down and claimed she had legal opinions to back up her assertion. She complained about how it was disrespectful of us to put a deadline on her and the other committee members etc. etc.

Next morning I decided to respond. I prefaced the email saying I wasn't going to go point by point with her because I didn't think it would be beneficial. I then stated that I was going to state three things without malice or ill will towards her. The first thing was stating that respect is a two way street and asked her to honestly consider why she has unresolved conflicts with multiple neighbors (the number is close to 30% of the neighborhood).  The second statement was that I would pray that she finds peace and contentment in her life because in 7 years I had noticed that these were things she struggled to achieve (she is a churchian). The third was the simple statement "I will not be bullied".

I get the reply later that morning. "Stop harassing me immediately" She references her email sent to the whole board about not wanting emails and I wasn't respecting her wishes. Then the bingo moment "I call this harassment, especially because I am a woman". She then threatens to contact the police and have her and her husband make sworn statements that I am harassing them if I ever speak to or email either of them again.

I was a little taken a back by this at first, reread my emails and realized they were tame and fact based, and was thankful for the fact that I sent copies of all correspondence to the board immediately before sending to or after receiving anything from her. I have 2 board members solidly backing me independently sending me emails that had the same sentiments of "good job, it's time someone confronted her" and "you were much kinder than I would have been". The same two initiated separate motions to the board about not allowing her to participate on any committees again, and seeing if there is anything we can do about her threatening a board member.
The fundamental mistake, of course, was giving this SJW the chance to have any input on the rules after she stepped down from the board. But this is a pretty textbook situation, from the board members naively failing to anticipate the SJW's bad behavior to everyone being surprised by the shameless lies and counterattacks that to which an SJW who feels threatened invariably resorts.

Fortunately, the emailer was prepared, although it was a complete waste of time to babble about respect and prayer and personal lives. I suspect the emailer may be a woman, because women are usually far too concerned about that sort of superficial virtue-signaling trivia. But the important thing is that she also made it clear to the SJW that she was not going to submit and accept the SJW's false narrative. It was also good that she copied the rest of the board on everything; notice how the SJW tried to conceal her direct communications with the emailer from the other board members.

It's not difficult to defeat SJWs once you learn to identify and anticipate them. With a little patience and foresight, you can readily trap and expose them to the benefit of naive third parties who still think SJWs are some sort of fictional bogeyman.

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44 Comments:

Blogger Gordon December 09, 2017 10:40 AM  

HOAs are the battleground of the underambitious SJW. It's amazing how much power control of an HOA gives to unscrupulous people. From what I have seen, and the stories I've heard, I will never submit myself to an HOA. Fair Play to the emailer.

Blogger haus frau December 09, 2017 10:48 AM  

The thing about the HOA is that everyone has to live near this woman. Unless the neighbor's are all as bat shit insane as the SJW it's going to be difficult for her to conceal what kind of person she is. They all have to deal with her irrational, petty nit picking and meddling. The emailer pointing out that this woman has open feuds with multiple neighbors in a widely cc'd email probably really pushed her buttons. She was publicly out grouped and can't deny her personal unpopularity. Kind of hard to organize a good old point and shriek then. I would not buy a house in an HOA neighborhood either.

Blogger Michael Maier December 09, 2017 10:49 AM  

HOAs are the battleground of the underambitious SJW.

Great statement.

Anonymous BBGKB December 09, 2017 10:56 AM  

I would like to live just one house outside an HOA so I could tell off people like her.

OT:Drunk bull dyke cop given leave over white privilege comments

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/12/06/female-ind-police-captain-suspended-after-white-male-privilege-remark/?tid=sm_fb&utm_term=.91bd94fd0b3b

Blogger Jeff Wood December 09, 2017 11:04 AM  

A tip of the hat to your correspondent, who seems to have handled this well; and to you, Vox, for the books.

Perhaps notifying the rest of the Committee of correspondence received is standard procedure, but if it is not then your emailer can take credit for a small stroke of genius.

The Rules, of course, are analogous to a Code of Conduct. Our host has pointed out more than once that this is a playground where SJWs frolic.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 09, 2017 11:07 AM  

Tactical thoughts for the emailer:

Put an agenda item on the next board meeting, line up your votes first, and vote to formally disband the committee effective immediately. If it's not formally disbanded by regular action, then the SJW continues in sad public martyrdom because of the evil people on the board. "Thank" the SJW for the "service" and ignore anything else from the SJW.

Get the local zoning code and copies of township or county ordinances. Have the HOA's legal counsel (or hire one or a law clerk) to do a complete crosswalk of HOA rules, code, and statute. Also do a thorough re-examination of your own rules, looking for trap doors and loopholes.

Strategic thoughts for the emailer and others:

Line up 2-3 successors of know sound mind and strength, vet by the trusted members of your board. HOA duty is a pain, but explain that you need people who keep the "Mrs. Kravitzes" of the world (nosy shrieking busybodies) out of positions where they can exercise petty power to harass.

Think hard about this - who controls your money and spending? Who keeps your record copies (hard copies) or rules and meeting minutes?

Robert's Rules of Order are your friend. Consider The Dread Pirate Robert's Rules as a backup.

Make your exit plan, and have a re-enrty option in case you must return to the fight. No one wants to get roped into this for so long, that you forget your original intention or so you don't get complacent and stop watching.

Et SJW delenda est. You are the front line that watches, defends, and destroys the enemy.

I have 30-some years' experience with smaller not-for-profits, and have seen this gambit and others used. Be ready, ruthlessly quash internal and external attempts to plunder and skin. I will admit to only a couple shelves on metaphorical skulls, not an entire throne.

(Oops) I thank the Supreme Dark Lord for his forbearance, in comparing my humble collection to the vast sinister gleam of his trove.

Anonymous ben December 09, 2017 11:14 AM  

We bought our house two years ago. Number one criterion: No HOA.

Anonymous The Watcher of the Skies December 09, 2017 11:20 AM  

I used to dread HOA meetings, I just didn't know why until I read SJWAL.
Then everything clicked... they're the perfect swamp for SJWs.

Thank you for your wisdom, Vox.

Blogger Dexter December 09, 2017 11:22 AM  

I have a neighbor like that. Retired old biddy, pain in the ass, (((SJW))). Ten years ago I told her "never speak, write, email, or phone me about anything ever again". Since then we've gotten along great!

Blogger Lovekraft December 09, 2017 11:30 AM  

A local newspaper article (SW Ontario, Canada) pointed out that around 70% of the police visits are dealing with domestic/neighbor issues.

Imagine the resources freed up if people learned basic civility.

Rule #1: mind your own business
Rule #2: poke the hornet's nest and it's your fault you got stung
Rule #3: you are not entitled to be liked by your neighbors. Your neighbors are obligated to keep a neat lawn, keep the noise down, etc. Nothing more.

The state will NOT enforce nuisance laws and other similar regulations. They are actually counter-productive because sociopathic neighbors enjoy this escalation and use it to further their harassment.

Blogger Zundfolge December 09, 2017 11:44 AM  

Yet another of the hundreds of reasons not to live in an HOA controlled neighborhood.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 09, 2017 11:48 AM  

That's good news on the HOA front. What's too bad, though, is that the based HOA president may be trapped in the leadership role now. "Eternal vigilance is the price of peace" sort of thing. Because SJWs, like rust, never sleep. You've got to constantly watch out, that SJW former president is coming back like cancer or Freddie Krueger if you let her, and pulling more bs.

If she's like our own former SJW HOA president, she'll be filling up her retiree days now "walking her dog". That's cover for going around with her cell phone photographing and documenting every current violation, potential violation, or whatever can be argued upwards into a future violation, that everybody else is making. Peering over the fences and to document backyard untidiness (that nobody can see unless they snoop), and that sort of thing. Towing cars whose inspection stickers expired while the owner's on a business trip. That sort of lovely thing.

You cannot make the mistake that you've won and that's that. You will be fighting them forever, until they move away or you do.

Blogger Johnny December 09, 2017 12:00 PM  

While I don't think the women is an SJW, we have a similar problem with a women on a board that I am part of. Regrettably the guy who runs the thing does not handle it well. He answers everything, won't let anything go, and effectively puts her in charge by addressing all her criticisms. And then eventually gets angry, which may be why she goes after him in the first place.

Common lawyer advice in an adversarial situation is don't say more than is necessary, and maybe don't say anything at all.

Anonymous The OP writer. December 09, 2017 12:06 PM  

@6 casual.

Appreciate the advice, our association has a property manager that retains the records so those are safe. We do have legal council and will have them review the documents.

I was on the verge of resigning for different reasons when this happened. I will stay on now to protect myself from nit picking violation letters originating from the inevitable complaints she will file against me. The board has had several discussion about ensuring she stays off the board and are trying to recruit good candidates in the community for succession. One of the board members that I swayed with this encounter has cancer and I am concerned they are not going to last much longer.

As another poster commented, a large majority of our neighborhood has a strong distaste for her. I was surprised at the number of people who came to complain about her when I became a board member. Especially the ones she is ostensibly friends with.

Blogger maniacprovost December 09, 2017 12:09 PM  

I just got SJWADD. Anticipation is high.

Blogger Balázs Varga December 09, 2017 12:44 PM  

HOA is cancer in its purest form.

Why the especially freedom loving US citizens ever agreed to it is baffling to me, since even in Eastern Europe such things are simply not allowed, and such organisations would be disbanded for infringing on the goverment's sole right of making laws.

Blogger Dire Badger December 09, 2017 12:48 PM  

Speaking of SJW's, Marvel (Disney) apparently pulled the plug on Gazillion Entertainment's "Marvel Super Heroes" last week.

Since Disney apparently is trying to retconn the entire Marvel Universe, Gaz selling 'old costumes' and running older storylines was apparently in conflict with the 'new and improved' marvel Universe Disney is pushing. Of course, the fact that Gaz HAD to sell those costumes and keep those storylines in order to make any money off the game was apparently irrelevant.


I could see how Disney might want to make it's own Marvel computer games, but Gaz' product was keeping a substantial chunk of the Marvel fanbase interested. I wonder how well they are going to do now that they have alienated yet another huge chunk of fans?

Anonymous The OP writer. December 09, 2017 12:54 PM  

a deplorable rubberducky wrote:That's good news on the HOA front. What's too bad, though, is that the based HOA president may be trapped in the leadership role now. "Eternal vigilance is the price of peace" sort of thing. Because SJWs, like rust, never sleep. You've got to constantly watch out, that SJW former president is coming back like cancer or Freddie Krueger if you let her, and pulling more bs.

If she's like our own former SJW HOA president, she'll be filling up her retiree days now "walking her dog". That's cover for going around with her cell phone photographing and documenting every current violation, potential violation, or whatever can be argued upwards into a future violation, that everybody else is making. Peering over the fences and to document backyard untidiness (that nobody can see unless they snoop), and that sort of thing. Towing cars whose inspection stickers expired while the owner's on a business trip. That sort of lovely thing.

You cannot make the mistake that you've won and that's that. You will be fighting them forever, until they move away or you do.



Bingo on all fronts. She already behaves in this fashion. She doesn't own a dog but does do a lot of "tending to the common flower beds". I am retaining the position I was going to leave for this reason.

She also has the management company listening to her complaints and executing violation letters without consulting the board. My next priority is making it clear that all violations letters are to be approved by the board before being recorded and sent.

I am planning on moving some place with a lot more land and no HOA in the next couple years so I only need to hold things together for that long in the worst case scenario.

Anonymous BBGKB December 09, 2017 1:08 PM  

Gropercaust (((Dustin Hoffman))) adult women
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/death-salesman-actress-accuses-dustin-215213508.html

Blogger LP9 December 09, 2017 1:58 PM  

And they dont let things go or become peaceful, which is ok, its like being nicey nice with heretics, they will turn on you.

Never trumpers, SJWs to gamma rage is real and dangerous.

Be prepared to understand with great objectivity and a strategy no fear, no feelings, dont expect a conclusion or reason.

This matter reminds of a recent mark Dice video, some woman at 'bored meeting' went crazy, it was stunning going on about white privilege.

No matter how nice you are, being nice with those people gets you NOWHERE.

Don't be nice, be smart, be firm, be careful; document, read SJWAL and SJWADD.

Could be a woman; this terrible saga sounds like a henhousing thing and the accusation or calling the email harassment is totally common, thin skinned old people have bred sjws as well, I see it alot with old people like boomers and silent gens.

Blogger dienw December 09, 2017 2:29 PM  

Why the especially freedom loving US citizens ever agreed to it is baffling to me, since even in Eastern Europe such things are simply not allowed, and such organisations would be disbanded for infringing on the goverment's sole right of making laws.

Organizations such as Historical District organizations are formed in the shadows by SJWs in cooperation with the city governments; when ready, they come out of the shadows, hold their voting and there are not enough opposing voters; and bingo there is now a Historical District Committee that controls the color of paint you use, your shrubbery, roof shingle color,any any renovations; all of this is backed by the force of the city government because the committee is an extension of the city board.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 09, 2017 2:34 PM  

The only way to live in an HOA neighborhood is to ruthlessly seize power. And then exercise that power for the good of the residents, namely by aggressive Laissez-faire.

My wife and I did this successfully in the face of the retired people who have nothing better to do than play petty tyrant.

Anonymous FP December 09, 2017 3:14 PM  

@17

Eh, it is also that Gazzilion was run by incompetent management (design, financing etc) and its CEO Dohrmann was of the weinstein type according to employees there. Disney pulled the license supposedly because of that.

Blogger rumpole5 December 09, 2017 3:55 PM  

I am in the process of selling our home. The buyer had no problem with our "home goes as is" provision, nor with any of the other provisions in the multi page sales contract. In fact, he was adamant about only one thing, and he wanted an affidavit about that one point... That there was NO home ownners association!

Blogger Jo B December 09, 2017 3:58 PM  

Man, folks sure do take HOAs seriously. I'm more of a "leave me alone" type person.

Blogger pyrrhus December 09, 2017 4:03 PM  

HOAs work pretty well in Arizona, and have some legal advantages.Whereas condos and their associations are always to be avoided, IMO...My wife, a good politician and hard worker, was President of our HOA for 3 years, and drove off the crackpots by cementing an alliance with the other solid citizens, with my legal assistance when necessary. After she quit, we made sure that allies had key positions...

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2017 4:40 PM  

@17 Dire Badger

Since Disney apparently is trying to retconn the entire Marvel Universe, Gaz selling 'old costumes' and running older storylines was apparently in conflict with the 'new and improved' marvel Universe Disney is pushing.
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Are you sure that's why the pulled the plug? Marvel Puzzle Quest is still going strong and it has old costumes, versions etc. It also has the new stupid ones, which I ignore as much as possible. Or beat the crap out of immediately in PVP for the pleasure of pounding an SJW avatar :P

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2017 4:44 PM  

@20 LP9

this terrible saga sounds like a henhousing thing and the accusation or calling the email harassment is totally common, thin skinned old people have bred sjws as well, I see it alot with old people like boomers and silent gens.
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Sneak and plant several Kudzu potatoes in her yard. Then you can cite her for violations every day as it grows 3 or 4 feet per day.

Blogger Were-Puppy December 09, 2017 4:47 PM  

@25 Jo B
Man, folks sure do take HOAs seriously. I'm more of a "leave me alone" type person.
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Sadly, you can't do that. They will start fining you and put a lien on your house if you don't pay.

Anonymous Causal Lurker December 09, 2017 5:29 PM  

OP,

Thanks for your kind words, and I'm glad that advice was helpful, or fell in line with your own plans.

Before I forget again, remember this: you did well.
Yes, we can always see something to improve, but you did well.

I'm in a similar mode - I stepped away once for a while, then needed to come back for two emergencies. Recently I had begun looking for a successor so I could step down, but two outside groups caused major, long-term problems; means that my particular skills are needed for a while more. Then I'm done, successor will be learning as an apprentice.

It sounds like your SJW is making everyone else's life miserable, because it's a day ending in "Y". Good job with cutting off her access to the management company. There's probably a provision or loophole to fine the SJW for unauthorized contact with the management company. No SJW ever thinks that their rules will be applied to them! It's a guilty pleasure, but I enjoy throwing their own rule book at the after applying a thousand paper cuts.

My wife keeps thinking of moving into a community with an association. I printed your warning, so she can get an idea of why I'm not moving.

Best fortune going forward, and with your move to freer locales.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 09, 2017 5:36 PM  

Were-Puppy wrote:Sneak and plant several Kudzu potatoes in her yard. Then you can cite her for violations every day as it grows 3 or 4 feet per day.

Bamboo seeds are your great ally in this regard, too. Heard it from a friend, of course!

Blogger Kona Commuter December 09, 2017 5:48 PM  

FWIW my advice is to document EVERYTHING. I don't know about the law where you are but in my locale the legal requirement for writing (physically on paper) is that the notebook has to have numbered pages (or in a diary) and there is to be no space after your notes (so things can't be added later) (you draw a line). Preferably use language along the lines of "it was my observation" "I understood X,Y,Z". That sort of thing.

Funny tidbit of history. The State had a serious problem with corruption (it went all the way to the top) in the 80's. It all came apart when a Policeman gave evidence against his own. Just before he was to give evidence a very senior officer came up to him and asked to see his Police notebook, then with the notebook in hand the Senior walked away & didn't give it back. The thing was though, the good cop kept two notebooks and was ready for such shenanigans.

So fast forward to being cross examined after laying out the details of the corruption he witnessed. The defence said "Officer good guy. Your memory is excellent" Officer Good Guy replied "Not really, I refreshed my memory with the notes I took that day in my Police notebook". Apparently that was when it all fell apart for the corrupt.


Blogger dvdivx December 09, 2017 5:58 PM  

Do either of Vox's booms cover what SJW believe in or are they just against whites and Christianity? Do they even have a set belief system?

Blogger dvdivx December 09, 2017 5:58 PM  

Books god I hate autocorrect

Anonymous Avalanche December 09, 2017 6:15 PM  

Funny how differently people can look at things.

I live in a subdiv with an HOA. Never had any particular complaints about them; it's a CONTRACT -- my husband and I agreed by signed legal contract to be bound by the Covenants, which were set up when the subdiv was built. Some odd things -- which are good things -- in the Covenants, like you must have three trees in your front yard. (Makes the subdiv beautiful.) Must keep up your lawn/plantings and no parking RVs in the drive -- stuff that makes it a NICE place to live.

I spent the afternoon working with a neighbor-friend, the new HOA Treasurer, stuffing envelopes for the HOA dues bills for next year. He only ran for / became Treasurer because the woman who had been running unopposed was a known embezzler! So, there are certainly problems with some HOAs, but not always.

Anonymous Avalanche December 09, 2017 6:20 PM  

@31 "Bamboo seeds are your great ally in this regard, too. Heard it from a friend, of course!"

Eh, punishing the neighbors -- heck the whole subdivision -- with bamboo. My sister is trying to deal with some out-of-control bamboo next to my mom's driveway. She had a pro come cut it all down to the ground, but of course it immediately starts to grow back. I did some research for her (what kind of poison will kill it dead?!) and the verdict is:

You can't kill bamboo, but you can kill the guy who planted it!

Anonymous The OP writer. December 09, 2017 7:03 PM  

Causal Lurker wrote:OP,

Thanks for your kind words, and I'm glad that advice was helpful, or fell in line with your own plans.

Before I forget again, remember this: you did well.

Yes, we can always see something to improve, but you did well.

I'm in a similar mode - I stepped away once for a while, then needed to come back for two emergencies. Recently I had begun looking for a successor so I could step down, but two outside groups caused major, long-term problems; means that my particular skills are needed for a while more. Then I'm done, successor will be learning as an apprentice.

It sounds like your SJW is making everyone else's life miserable, because it's a day ending in "Y". Good job with cutting off her access to the management company. There's probably a provision or loophole to fine the SJW for unauthorized contact with the management company. No SJW ever thinks that their rules will be applied to them! It's a guilty pleasure, but I enjoy throwing their own rule book at the after applying a thousand paper cuts.

My wife keeps thinking of moving into a community with an association. I printed your warning, so she can get an idea of why I'm not moving.

Best fortune going forward, and with your move to freer locales.


Appreciate the kind thoughts/prayers. I won't go into detail to cover for possible legal reasons but I am not a woman as VD suspected and the response I related to him was not my natural/first response, it was carefully considered and crafted.

My SJW is already despised by many but they still give her words credence which is why I must be careful. My fiance, who spends weekends at my place, is afraid of her. I have instructed her to tape all interactions with the SJW if she approaches her when she is taking her dog out. The SJW has already demonstrated that she is willing to have her husband make false statements and threatened to file charges against me. Luckily I am in a one party consent state for recording/wiretapping.

As stated earlier we are to be married next November and I should have enough money saved to afford a 15-20 acre piece of property with a home in 2019. I am looking forward to being away from the tyranny of an HOA in the meantime.

Blogger The Scribe December 09, 2017 8:37 PM  

When we bought our first house in 2007, it was in a nice, new neighborhood. As we were moving our stuff in, I made it a point to gingerly close my doors as to not disturb the others. Didn't want to start off as "that guy" type of neighbor.

Our HOA wasn't oppressive, just feckless. Little inconveniences were left to linger forever (yard sale signs that were weeks old, 18-inch high grass in the space between fence and road, potholes), but no nitpicking into your yard or house. So, yeah, we can't find time to deal with that jungle out front, but dammit, you better pay your dues!

When we moved into our new place two years ago, the veteran resident came to greet us. I had a lingering unease about the move, and asked if this area had a HOA. He burst out laughing, "No, and by God, we never will!"

Definitely made the right purchase.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 09, 2017 8:38 PM  

The OP writer. wrote:I have instructed her to tape all interactions with the SJW if she approaches her when she is taking her dog out. The SJW has already demonstrated that she is willing to have her husband make false statements and threatened to file charges against me. Luckily I am in a one party consent state for recording/wiretapping.

That's a good idea. One of them physically accosted my wife and really scared her once. It would have been great to have that documented. They will attempt to punish you and by extension her if they are like the ones around here. And they will hurt you financially given the chance if they ever get power over you on the board, they will bend the rules to do it. In my case paying them off was cheaper than a lawyer so I took that route. But that was a very hard decision, I wish had more money at the time.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 09, 2017 8:41 PM  

Oh, and it should go without saying but just in case: get everything in writing.

Blogger Lazarus December 09, 2017 10:41 PM  

If you have to join an HOA to buy a property, you do not have private property.

Blogger daddynichol December 10, 2017 7:48 AM  

33. @dvdivx

Buy them and find out.

Anonymous grayman December 10, 2017 12:36 PM  

If you have gotten control of an HOA put rules in place that allow financisl penalties for repeated nucsense complaints! Turn the tables on the SJWS and crush them.

Anonymous The OP writer. December 15, 2017 6:29 AM  

grayman wrote:If you have gotten control of an HOA put rules in place that allow financisl penalties for repeated nucsense complaints! Turn the tables on the SJWS and crush them.


A couple updates. I got this very thing passed this evening. It will be interesting to see the reaction.

The other update is now the SJW claims both her and her husband were on strong medication last week.... for a cold? They are trying to act like that was completely out of character for them and it was all the medicine's fault. 4/5s of the board isn't buying it. I am guessing the only reason they are floating this excuse is the other 1/5 told them how poorly they came off to the rest of the board.

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