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Thursday, January 25, 2018

An amazing investigative feat

What a shame that the entire Federal Bureau of Investigations was not able to accomplish what the DOJ managed in just one or two days:
The Department of Justice has recovered missing text messages between anti-Trump FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, the DOJ’s inspector general said Thursday.

In a letter sent to congressional committees, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz said his office “succeeded in using forensic tools to recover text messages from FBI devices, including text messages between Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page that were sent or received between December 14, 2016 and May 17, 2017.”

“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing,” Horowitz said. “We will provide copies of the text messages that we recover from these devices to the Department so that the Department’s leadership can take any management action it deems appropriate.”

Fox News has learned from U.S. government officials that the inspector general recovered the texts by taking possession of "at least four" phones belonging to Strzok and Page.
If they can't even manage to find thousands of text messages on their own agents' phones, then really, what use do Americans have for such an observably incompetent FBI?

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87 Comments:

Blogger Ken Prescott January 25, 2018 7:11 PM  

“Our effort to recover any additional text messages is ongoing”

Translation: Strzok and Page have NO FRAKKING IDEA what pieces of the puzzle are available to the guys interrogating them.

Blogger #7139 January 25, 2018 7:13 PM  

The FBI continues to amaze and astonish. As do agents Strzok and Page.

Blogger Jim January 25, 2018 7:13 PM  

I'm skeptical we'll see the all of the actual messages.

Anonymous Just another commenter January 25, 2018 7:14 PM  

Would mass crucifixion of hundreds along the DC beltway be considered a "management action?"

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass January 25, 2018 7:18 PM  

OT: I echo what was said earlier about DACA. Trump has this in the bag. Schumer has already said no funding for the wall. Trump's just killing time until March then it will be the wailing and gnashing of burritos.

I bet the NSA, an FBI CI, or the telecom companies had them and forked them over. Rumor, per FoxNews, is that the DOJ refuses to comment that the memo names McCabe, Comey, and Rosenstein.

Buckle up and get some popcorn. This is gonna get interesting!

Anonymous GodEmperorMemes January 25, 2018 7:21 PM  

Some people need to see some serious prison time over this.

Blogger Johnny January 25, 2018 7:21 PM  

None of the Washington denisons want to go against the boss unless they think he is going down. Winning begets winning. Or is the correct analogy here the snowball rolling down the hill?

Anonymous Precious January 25, 2018 7:27 PM  

Considering Strzok and Page were texting each other back and forth over 200 times a day, they obviously don't have much work to do day to day.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2018 7:27 PM  

Someone in the Inspector General's office apparently decided to publicly embarrass the FBI, didn't they? This sounds like more than just interdepartmental feuding to me.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2018 7:28 PM  

> Some people need to see some serious prison time over this.

While that does indeed seem to be the case, we don't actually know much of anything yet. Give it time.

Blogger Dave January 25, 2018 7:35 PM  

agents Strzok and Page

*Beep*

"Hello, you have reached the FBI Human Resources Department, Agent Strzok. Please leave a message at the tone."

*Beep*

Anonymous DissidentRight January 25, 2018 7:36 PM  

Best current year to date.

Anonymous HollAndMich January 25, 2018 7:38 PM  

The g intelligent FBI agents, with exception of certain technical specialties, tend to maneuver for positions within the field offices and remain there. These folks get off busting big fish criminals even late career, and the regions are where the action reposes. The less-g (p)sycophants and those driven by secret lives, not infrequently combined, maneuver to the beltway and HQ. This according to careerist husband-wife agents past early retirement age with whom I'm acquainted. So I am not surprised the dingleberries in DC are *still* clueless how digital devices store data and the ramifications that follow. I'm a CS grad-degreed patent lawyer in the digital arts and I continue to be amazed at the content data and meta my forensics vendors have been enabled to retrieve over the decades with mere (cough) civilian technlogies. Cluelessness and arrogance continue to sink ships, which is pretty funny actually.

Blogger kh123 January 25, 2018 7:41 PM  

@7 "Or is the correct analogy here the snowball rolling down the hill?"

If McCabe and his office are the "Andrew" mentioned in the texts between the two, then it'll be one of those rare cases where the laws of physics were temporarily suspended, causing copious amounts of sh*t to roll uphill.

Blogger Eric Mueller January 25, 2018 7:45 PM  

FBI= F**king Bunch of Idiots. They seem to have worked very hard to earn that title.

Blogger Azimus January 25, 2018 7:46 PM  

I'm skeptical we'll see the all of the actual messages

Normally I would agree. But there has been a shocking lack of discretion on the part of the parties involved thus far. I mean, Comey, while not an idiot, is no Machiavellian...

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2018 7:48 PM  

Only CIA and the ODNI do not report to a policy department and as such provide the broadest support to decision makers across the national security enterprise.

I got that from the ODNI website.

Clowns In America you know. Do you know ODNI? Q might be ODNI.

Blogger TM Lutas January 25, 2018 7:48 PM  

The IG using "forensic techniques" might very well have been an unlisted number at a little known facility run by no such agency. Venona all over again where they knew the truth but it would not have served the country well to publicly admit it.

Blogger tz January 25, 2018 7:51 PM  

The homework has been recovered and the FBI K9 dog that ate it is recovering.

Blogger tz January 25, 2018 7:53 PM  

Even the cuckservatives aren't attempting to spin this.
The FBI appears corrupt to the core and the contrast with Trump is telling.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2018 7:54 PM  

> The IG using "forensic techniques" might very well have been an unlisted number at a little known facility run by no such agency.

Entirely possible, but we'll probably never know.

Blogger tz January 25, 2018 7:54 PM  

When you need to kill someone like LeVoy Finnicum, the seem to be effcient.
Also sending in more informants than protesters.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 25, 2018 7:55 PM  

Considering Strzok and Page were texting each other back and forth over 200 times a day, they obviously don't have much work to do day to day.

@8 Precious
Chateau Heartiste had a sample of Strzok's texts on his blog. Strzok sounds like a ditzy teenage girl, and so it would only be consistent of him to send hundreds of texts per day. He probably used "squee" in at least a few of them.

Anonymous Causal Lurker January 25, 2018 7:59 PM  

There will be plenty of time for crucifixion, but you'd better be prepared to file a big Environmental Impact Statement with the EPA. Hey, wait a minute ... that's number 534.

Regular people may glaze over this. The DOJ's Inspector General is playing a cat and mouse game, and the FBI keeps squeaking. It'll be interesting to see when the next chew toy comes out.

Blogger Thucydides January 25, 2018 8:00 PM  

Many people on this blog noted that electronic messaging is never completely "erased". Likely multiple copies were in the hands of various people looking for leverage and possible blackmail material.

And someone decided that this was the best time to gain leverage.......

Anonymous HollAndMich January 25, 2018 8:18 PM  

Here's an interesting update to a story which is arguably related to the attempted take downs of GE: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/37349466/sen-schatz-leads-congressional-hearing-on-hawaiis-false-missile-alert

Anonymous Daniel January 25, 2018 8:18 PM  

Probably all it took was to call in a Geek Squad guy from Best Buy.

Blogger R.G. Camara January 25, 2018 8:30 PM  

One could write an entire history of the FBI demonstrating that they have been nothing more than the secret police with good P.R.

Hoover's genius was controlling the press and controlling Hollywood's depictions of the FBI, not in his vaunted crime lab or training of his agents, both of which were highly overrated and borderline stage magician stunts.

Hoover was the guy who let the mafia run a muck for nearly 40 years while denying their existence.

Merely reading up on the Whitey Bulger stuff, the Waco siege, and Ruby Ridge is enough to make your eyes pop. The Comey abandonment of the rule of law in 2016 and this anti-Trump witchhunt-and-cover-up are merely confirmation that the G-Men are still the bad guys.

Blogger Anno Ruse January 25, 2018 8:41 PM  

"Chateau Heartiste had a sample"

VD doesn't link to that blog anymore, it's verboten

Blogger smee January 25, 2018 8:41 PM  

their heads on pikes. nothing less.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum January 25, 2018 8:43 PM  

"Chateau Heartiste had a sample"

VD doesn't link to that blog anymore, it's verboten


Not true. Looked at Alpha Game lately?

Blogger VD January 25, 2018 8:55 PM  

VD doesn't link to that blog anymore, it's verboten

No, it's not. I've never said anything about not linking to the Chateau.

Blogger Mint January 25, 2018 9:00 PM  

FBI used to be a subject of awe due to how Hollywood portrayed their agents repeatedly for years. In my country, young men would proudly wearing shirts with FBI emblazoned in their back. This is in a country with negative sentiments toward USA among the fundamental Muslim community. There was even a boyband called FBI in our pop music scene some years ago. That's how popular FBI as formidable force in international scene. How the FBI really is, these events lately show the world, portray another kind of picture entirely.

Blogger Josh (the sexiest thing here) January 25, 2018 9:04 PM  

If they can't even manage to find thousands of text messages on their own agents' phones, then really, what use do Americans have for such an observably incompetent FBI?

Those false flags aren't gonna plant themselves

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener January 25, 2018 9:32 PM  

"...what use do Americans have for such an observably incompetent FBI?"

Shooting unarmed pregnant women at close range. Protecting us from nonviolent libertarians. Convincing retards to press buttons on garage door openers they're handed and promptly arresting them, thereby stopping terrorism.

Blogger Silly but True January 25, 2018 9:34 PM  

I'm cynical and I may be overly parsing OIG's letter but he's essentially doing the same game as State with Hillary; he's gone "We found a few emails and here they are. You have everything we found."

No one's certified here that they have obtained all messages that Strozck and Page exchanged in the time period. OIG may not know. No one may. It may be a years-long trickle like Benghazi emails that a new recipient of a forwarded message which they don't yet have turns up.

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2018 9:34 PM  

27. Anno Ruse January 25, 2018 8:41 PM

"Chateau Heartiste had a sample"

VD doesn't link to that blog anymore, it's verboten



Who are you? You seem to like to spread disinformation.

Blogger DonReynolds January 25, 2018 9:41 PM  

I refuse to believe that the FBI is incompetent. They are willful and apparently undisciplined and disloyal to their own oaths. They are probably one of the best trained organizations in the world, and the most selective, and they are what remains when everyone else gives up.

The political rot that manifested itself during the Obama administration, but certainly did not begin there, has enabled the "wrong element" to be introduced to the FBI organization and that "wrong element" has been there long enough to achieve positions of responsibility and authority. This is how institutions become degraded and corrupted.

Anonymous CloseHauled January 25, 2018 9:52 PM  

@13 I continue to be amazed at the content data and meta my forensics vendors have been enabled to retrieve over the decades with mere (cough) civilian technlogies.

So much metadata in so many documents formats. Even if you scrub main document, an attachment or embedded document within that document will have metadata to give you away.

That is something I've been working on the last 2 years: eDiscovery quality level identification and content extraction SDK at very impressive extraction times.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 25, 2018 9:57 PM  

I think the correct description for the FBI would be marginally competent, but seriously corrupt.

Certainly by the mid-'60s, it was common knowledge in DC that Hoover was kept in office partly because he had blackmail file on a lot of Congressmen. There's a long history of marginally legal surveillance activities. Not to mention the botched lab work, and attempts to frame people such as Richard Jewell. Not to mention several boxes of FBI files that "just happened" to turn up in the White House when Sick Willie Clinton was President.

No. The organization as a whole has a culture of corruption. My recommendation would be to break it up. The culprits in this seditious conspiracy go to prison. Other senior leaders get retired. The line animals get reassigned, but as individuals. Organizations have a corporate culture. Getting that culture to pay attention takes a stout blow with a lead pipe.

My biggest worry is that Trump won't deliver it.

Anonymous Confused Boomer January 25, 2018 10:00 PM  

Did they find them on the Gorilla Channel? I don't think my satellite package comes with that station.

Blogger James Dixon January 25, 2018 10:07 PM  

> My recommendation would be to break it up.

At this point none of the intelligence agencies or the FBI can be trusted. I'd disband all of them, give international spying to the military and create a new federal police force from scratch.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 25, 2018 10:10 PM  

The Memo is now being discussed on local talk radio, but the normies still can't wrap their heads around it. The talk show idiots were saying LE and FBI, as well as the military are mostly right wing. Probably true on the lower to mid levels, but not at the upper echelons who are political appointees who bring in their minions.

Anyway the "Secret Society" were not well-experienced field agents or SACs. They are political animals, so that is why they are acting in stupid ways you wouldn't expect a typical Feeb to act.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 25, 2018 10:14 PM  

OT but it is to lol!

Vince McMahon announces return of the XFL in 2020.

How good could this be?

McMahon said being the only owner of all of the teams will allow him to do whatever he wants.

"I can say, 'Here are the rules, and as long as you are playing football in the stadium for us, you follow these rules.'"

McMahon also said he would preclude any player with a criminal record.


Would he have tried this with Hillary Rodan Robot ruling?

Trump 2016 for the LOLZ!

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2018 10:15 PM  

@35
I refuse to believe that the FBI is incompetent

Can you believe their upper levels are corrupt?

Blogger Zeke OF Confettii January 25, 2018 10:15 PM  

Time to make the U. S. Marshalls Great Again.

Blogger Lazarus January 25, 2018 10:18 PM  

If Hillary had won, I am convinced there would have to be a naked Military Coup, unlike the stealth Military coup that is in progress now.

Anonymous Marvin Boggs January 25, 2018 10:21 PM  

Regardless of what the other two letters stand for, I've come to believe that the F stands for Feral. The way its been operating, it sure ain't domesticated.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 25, 2018 10:23 PM  

And right on cue, the (((NY Times))) is alleging that Trump wanted to fire Mueller, but doing so would have cost him his legal counsel.

As for competency, anybody who's a GS-15 or below, or busted their hump for the lower echelons of the Senior Executive Service are, in general, not the folks you want to focus such discussions on (at least from a political corruption standpoint; actual performance competence is always up for debate depending on job, time in grade/step, etc.). Anybody who is a political appointee (think your Cabinet-level picks and front office types that have to go through the Senate confirmation process) is automatically suspect. And it seems that the further left such appointees lean, the more likely they are (at least from what we've seen of the previous administration) to try and pull crap like this.

Getting a little warm in here for some folks, isn't it?

Blogger Phillip George January 25, 2018 10:26 PM  

Vox,
It's us Vs deep state.

Seems from JimStone.Is Julian Assange is dead. Jim Stone is seldom wrong in material he speculates about.

If Julian Assange can be assassinated in a foreign embassy simply everyone has a cross hair on them. There is no neutrality. There is no hiding place.

Blogger Edgar Abbey January 25, 2018 10:27 PM  

The NYT has thrown out this story about Trump wanting to firing Mueller as a way of blunting the enormously damaging information starting to come out about the conspiracy to overthrow Trump.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 25, 2018 10:28 PM  

@46
And right on cue, the (((NY Times))) is alleging that Trump wanted to fire Mueller, but doing so would have cost him his legal counsel.


The FUD must be getting a bit thick over at Carlos Slim's blog.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 25, 2018 10:31 PM  

Edgar Abbey wrote:The NYT has thrown out this story about Trump wanting to firing Mueller as a way of blunting the enormously damaging information starting to come out about the conspiracy to overthrow Trump.

As I stated, it's as if it was already planned or something.

These idiots are nothing if not totally predictable.

Anonymous Icicle January 25, 2018 10:49 PM  

Newspapers do keep stories in a queue. Note all the written obituaries that have been accidentally leaked ahead of the person actually dying.

Anonymous Napoleon 12pdr January 25, 2018 11:10 PM  

@39 James Dixon:

I can see handing intel over to DOD, but I don't like the idea of a single Federal police force. The FBI tried to be that, and look where it got us. I think a better approach would be smaller agencies with specified jurisdictions...and to the greatest degree possible, law enforcement should be a state and local responsibility.

And, of course, all Federal law enforcement agencies should be headquartered outside the greater National Capital Area...which we will define as anywhere getting DC locality pay.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 25, 2018 11:26 PM  

We are very lucky they failed to corrupt the IG. They won't make that mistake again. So it is imperative that they get monkey-hammered NOW.

Blogger Not a lefty January 25, 2018 11:30 PM  

I have to wonder, with 200 texts per day, if the spouses of sztrok and page suspected anything. And if they did, were they told, "you can't look at my phone - official classified FBI business"? Sounds like Michael Corleone, except Michael allowed his wife to ask "this one time". Sztrok and page spouses were probably not given even that courtesy.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 25, 2018 11:41 PM  

Is the FBI competent, or friendly, or whatever? Did bad stuff happen with Tranny Hoover?

REMEMBER: One FBI man got passed over for promotion, so he became Deep Throat and took his revenge upon Richard Nixon. And the entire chorus of Left-Wing America continues to clap until this day.

So, yeah. They are LONG overdue for a deserved takedown. Today's FBI has somehow emerged as being even worse than ever before.


Fire them ALL, down to the mailroom. Ban them all from future government employment and from lobbying. Launch investigations into the whole criminal enterprise. Put the squeeze on these assholes. Maybe some will squeal and we can dangle an escape from the hurt.

The important thing is TO BRING THE HURT. Make them squeal. Make them pariahs. Vaporize their status and prestige. Out them for the culture of treason that they have cultivated.

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 12:54 AM  

@19-They are spinning it, just not directly. They try not to talk about this or that detail, individual, or agency, nor the scandal du jour, when it does suit them. Instead, they stick with general criticism of doubting Our Institutions and wild "conspiracy theories."

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 1:01 AM  

@31-"In my country, young men would proudly wearing shirts with FBI emblazoned in their back"

Are you sure those weren't Female Body Inspector shirts?

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 26, 2018 1:05 AM  

So basically the fbi is Isis with sterling archer?

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 1:08 AM  

@46-"And right on cue, the (((New York Times))) is alleging that Trump wanted to fire Mueller"

Trump is always either working with the Russians or doing abusing his power to stop the investigation into him working with Russians. You think there might be diminishing returns on that for his enemies in the Fake News at some point? For instance, like a year ago.

They are still using the Watergate playbook.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope January 26, 2018 1:37 AM  

Lot's of quotes from people like Chucky Schumer on the local news, where he boldly states that all this FBI stuff is only to distract people from Trump's fear of the Mueller investigation.

The liberals eat this stuff up. They project their fears and they always double down. Oh, and of course the always lie.
Now where have I heard that before??? The blue cities and their liberal denizens genuinely believe, without a shred of doubt, every single lie pumped out by the media elite.

Anonymous CloseHauled January 26, 2018 1:43 AM  

50. Icicle
Newspapers do keep stories in a queue. Note all the written obituaries that have been accidentally leaked ahead of the person actually dying.


You know, maybe the Randy Quaid isn't crazy ("Quad Conspiracy", see below).
Maybe the "leaks" are orders.

If Hollywood needs to generate some cash for their handlers maybe the just whack an aging movie/recording star who is worth much more dead (instantly generate lots thru DVD and memorabilia sales).

At this point down the rabbit hole, I keep an open mind, although Randy is kind of out there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/01/quaid-201101
"THE QUAID CONSPIRACY
They’re spending nights in their car, on the run from the same shadowy cabal—“the Hollywood Star Whackers”—who may have killed Heath Ledger, possibly sabotaged Jeremy Piven, and could now be targeting Lindsay Lohan. No, this is not the plot of Oscar nominee and Golden Globe winner Randy Quaid’s latest movie. It is what he and his wife, Evi, swear is really happening to them. With the Quaids in Canada, the author probes their nightmare reality, which has alienated friends and family, and turned the couple into outlaws."

Anonymous Jack Amok January 26, 2018 1:44 AM  

The FBI, by claiming they'd lost the text, really screwed themselves. Now anyone can produce the "recovered" texts, have them say whatever they want, and the FBI cannot refute it. They already claimed they didn't have the data, so they can't very well say "that's not what the text said!"

Anonymous Looking Glass January 26, 2018 1:52 AM  

Shameless stolen from T_D:

"I sure hope no savvy Russian hires a very solid 4 to infiltrate the FBI."

A Q keeps saying, these people really are stupid.

If anyone wants a fun thread:
https://twitter.com/nameredacted5/status/956743844980248576

What if a bunch of the "Secret Society" members are actually on the Russian payroll?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2018 2:06 AM  

There is no statute of limitations on murder.
FBI agents present at Waco the day of the massacre are now high in the organization.
Indictments for 1st degree murder by the Texas AG with possible execution as punishment would focus their minds tightly.
Bring them all to Huntsville for security.

Start with Lon Horichi. He was there, too.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2018 2:09 AM  

Because the Texas Rangers took over custody of every bit of evidence at Waco after the FBI got done destroying evidence. They have a warehouse full of the stuff, and a serious Texas Ranger grudge against the FBI.

If digging up Grannie Annie Richards to put her on trial was possible, Texas Rangers would do it.

Blogger Shimshon January 26, 2018 2:14 AM  

It seems pretty clear to me that from the very beginning the end game is releasing the memo. A gun in act one, after all.

Given all that, the buildup to act three gives the memo that much more gravitas (I just used that word) to the masses, who are undoubtedly becoming curiouser and curiouser. SOTU seems like as good day as any to free the memo, but who knows. Either way, I'm being entertained.

I saw that a Q post was on Fox. Do they actually mention Q on the show, or just display the graphic?

Blogger The Scribe January 26, 2018 3:42 AM  

Not that I'm watching it, but someone's got PMSNBC running on the idiot box in the break room. (Officially, only CNN is allowed, dating back to arguments over what to watch long before I started working here.) The baseline have been stating "GOP memo conspiracy theories evaporate as Mueller closes in".

Is St. Mueller ever going to pull this rabbit out of his hat?

Anonymous CloseHauled January 26, 2018 3:56 AM  

@66 Shimshon

Well Q did post a screen shot of the Fox and Friends show, showing a Q post and then said this:

"Thank you F&F!
Coincidence?
AT&T>No Such Agency [contract].
AT&T>GOOG/FB/etc. 'prevent unfair censorship' PUSH.
Internet Bill of Rights.

Q"

Anonymous Icicle January 26, 2018 4:10 AM  

At this point down the rabbit hole, I keep an open mind, although Randy is kind of out there.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2011/01/quaid-201101
"THE QUAID CONSPIRACY


Five years ago I would have said that is totally insane.

Not anymore.

If surveillance targeted Trump and tried to sabotage him, why is it so far fetched to think other high profile people are being targeted like that as well, albeit on a smaller scale? And surfing Crazy Days & Nights shows some things like that popping up as well.

The surveillance comes first, then the attacks.

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 4:28 AM  

Speaking of MSM desperation, WaPo is seriously pushing the Narrative that sometimes presidents get sick, y'all. We better keep an eye on Trump's health/mental state, just in case.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 26, 2018 4:56 AM  

@69 Icicle

Considering that CD&N was straight up implying that Geffen had Chris & Chester murdered, we've left "eh, that can't be possible" to "so, tell me about space reptiles?" pretty quickly.

For the record, I'd never call them inter-dimensional vampires, but it's a technically correct description of actual demons. Right along with "Eyes Wide Shut" is, now, clearly a fictionalized version of things that actually happen, and Christopher Nolan's "League of Shadows" in the Batman Movies are actually real, if named differently.

Honestly, while it's amazing that the elites really are as kooky as they've been made out to be, it's quite annoying with how deranged they are. I always expected the Elites, though evil, would at least be competent. Turns out the modern Globalist Elites are the Cleveland Browns.

I'm still pretty insulted by that realization.

On other Elite news, the Trump Admin has put forward proposal for a DACA + Wall bill that both sides will reject. Funny, that. I would expect the House Bill that comes of it to be far harsher and the only one on the table when we get to the next "deadline". The only deal the Left will get will be so poisoned against their side that it might split the party. Trump's a master at leverage, so this is fun to watch.

Just remember, there's no deal for Trump without full funding of the Wall, something the Left can never agree to. There's no deal to be had and DACA will almost assuredly be left to die on March 5th, unless the Dems & GOPe collapse and accept everything Trump wants.

Blogger James Dixon January 26, 2018 5:04 AM  

> WaPo is seriously pushing the Narrative that sometimes presidents get sick, y'all. We better keep an eye on Trump's health/mental state, just in case.

They seriously haven't thought this through. How do they think Pence will react to their having taken out Trump?

Blogger James Dixon January 26, 2018 5:07 AM  

> I would expect the House Bill that comes of it to be far harsher and the only one on the table when we get to the next "deadline".

Which is Feb. 8th, less than two weeks away.

Anonymous Icicle January 26, 2018 6:44 AM  

I always expected the Elites, though evil, would at least be competent. Turns out the modern Globalist Elites are the Cleveland Browns.

I'm still pretty insulted by that realization.


Well if Epstein's temple is any indication, they might be getting some help there.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 26, 2018 7:05 AM  

Turns out the modern Globalist Elites are the Cleveland Browns.

You know, this makes me wonder if Jimmy Haslam has ever been to Epstein’s island. Would explain so much.

Blogger The Kurgan January 26, 2018 7:26 AM  

Probably only effective if they stretch from there to say Dallas Texas.

Anonymous Icicle January 26, 2018 7:45 AM  

https://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/surveillance-chris-brown-edition/

Good example of (confirmed) Star Whacking here.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 26, 2018 7:51 AM  

@75 SemiSpook37

https://infogalactic.com/info/Arthur_B._Culvahouse,_Jr.

Haslam's lawyer from his big dust-up with fraud & conspiracy issues in his company. Headed the vetting group for both John McCain & Donald Trump. We know they're a connected & billionaire family, but it doesn't seem like they were taking trips that way.

At the same time, Jimmy is involved in the Ohio Rich scene, which puts him in contact with Les Wexner. Epstein was Wexner's guy, so there's proximity. Same as Trump, but that doesn't seem to be the Haslam's thing.

Still, the analogy still works. The Browns show up, on time, to the games. They play something looking like Professional ball, and even have a few really competent & capable players. They're still a bunch of professional. Yet, 0-16.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 26, 2018 8:24 AM  

@77

To quote Philip J. Fry:

“I’m shocked. Shocked! Well, not that shocked.”

Blogger James Dixon January 26, 2018 9:39 AM  

> Is St. Mueller ever going to pull this rabbit out of his hat?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW7pITY5Cg

Blogger CJ January 26, 2018 10:53 AM  

#35 Don Reynolds

I distinctly remember hearing big city police refer to the FBI as Famous But Incompetent in the 1970s. (Yes, I'm that old. Somebody around here has to be.) There is a lot of objective evidence for that; the Boston office that was owned by Whitey Bulger, the failure to get anywhere near catching the Unabomber until his brother basically turned him in, etc.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 26, 2018 12:55 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Turns out the modern Globalist Elites are the Cleveland Browns.
And we've been rooting for the Jr. high school girls volleyball team.
But the Pats just showed up on the field.

Anonymous SigOther January 26, 2018 1:27 PM  

Here's an idea: move the entire Congress to Minnesota, move SCOTUS to Oklahoma, and all Fed LEO to Tennessee, KY or Richmond VA.

Anonymous JAG January 26, 2018 6:02 PM  

Lavoy Finnicum's family has filed wrongful death suit against the FBI over the premeditated murder of Lavoy. They have proof that the FBI planted the 9mm gun claimed as justification.

Oh, insert "allegedly" wherever.

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