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Sunday, January 14, 2018

Divisional Sunday

I have to admit, I did not think the Eagles would pull it together well enough to beat the Falcons. Discuss amongst yourselves. And Skol Vikings!

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Blogger John Cunningham January 14, 2018 11:38 AM  

VFM #424 here--the bird battle was a good game, but the Pats put on a epic beatdown.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 14, 2018 11:48 AM  

Yeah the Eagles Falcons game was radiating high intensity right from the start and there was no let up. Both teams were ready a their beaks were completely wet with football.

Anonymous Redhawk January 14, 2018 12:16 PM  

I was also surprised that the Eagles won.

On the AFC side Pats should roll the Steelers again enroute to the Super Bowl.

So far my prediction of a Saints v Pats Super Bowl is looking good.

As a Cowboy fan we missed an opportunity to avoid the Packers and make a SB run.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 14, 2018 12:23 PM  

Dallas the team that cut Amendola for a player who looked the part, except for catching and running with the football. Amendola 112 yards and clutch 3rd down conversions.

And Clay Travis' love interest Marcus M. 8 sacks, ouch.

And a lifelong Packers fan pulling for the Vikings SB win so they can assume their normal under achieving ways

Anonymous Weak January 14, 2018 12:29 PM  

The Steelers should destroy New England if they can get past Jacksonville today. When they played earlier, New England had to cheat their tits off to barely win on an interception from a fluky bounce on a busted play. In the interim, the Steelers added Antonio Brown and Joe Haden, their best offensive and defensive players, both of whom missed the game with injuries. They also got back starting TE Vance McDonald.

New England added the dessicated corpse of James Harrison.

Even with the cheating turned up to 11, the Steelers will destroy New England.

Jacksonville on the other hand...that is an EXCELLENT defense. And Fournette is a real talent. Today could be challenging.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 14, 2018 12:37 PM  

Yep Jacksonville with Bobby Douglas II at QB matching up but NE being destroyed, are you tailgating by chance?

Anonymous Weak January 14, 2018 12:44 PM  

Bad News Bortles is terrible. But that defense is really really good. Sometimes a great D is enough if they can get Bortles to be at least Trent Dilfer level competent.

Blogger Nate January 14, 2018 12:46 PM  

"The Steelers should destroy New England if they can get past Jacksonville today"

except they won't be playing merely New England. They'll be playing New England and the Officials. As we saw in the critical moments last night.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 12:47 PM  

The Saints are going to be a tough one for the Vikes, The Jags in Pittsburgh in January however... I'm still thinking possible SB IX rematch.

Anonymous Hanging out relaxing talking football January 14, 2018 12:48 PM  

Re 12:29. There was a call in the Pats Steelers game at the end that could have gone either way. The Steelers definitely played well enough to win that game.

Anonymous Gunther Sanchez January 14, 2018 12:53 PM  

All the posturing for manly values, genius and competence, etc except when it comes to whinging about the Patriots' success, then it's just the blanket "they cheat and have only made 7 Superbowls in 15 years by cheating, not because they have the greatest QB/coach duo by a longshot in NFL history." You're right--Mariota, et al were just about to turn the corner and put up four touchdowns against that defense last night if it weren't for biased officiating.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 14, 2018 12:55 PM  

I agree, and cannot say I care for the NFL becoming the CFL or Arena, but then again I loved football when fullbacks carried the ball, that would be the 70s at the latest for you whippersnappers.

Anonymous J. Spicoli January 14, 2018 1:05 PM  

They call me the brees...(lynyrd skynyrd)
Saints win on the road. Keenum looking over his shoulder since Vikings activated Bradford. Not a good move for the young dude's confidence. First screwup Vikes will pull him. Pitt no problem with Jax.

Blogger Sambuca Ford January 14, 2018 1:14 PM  

Bortles acting a fool in play action? His one good drive of the day now is in the books.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 1:15 PM  

Jacksonville may just prove that defense still wins championships (does not apply to the 9-7 in reality Patriots of course).

The elephant in the room is that the mighty Steelers offense has trouble scoring and the Steelers defense can be gouged on the ground. This is probably the reason why Cam Hayward didn't make the Pro Bowl. Anyway Jacksonville is already burning them again with screens...

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 1:17 PM  

Gunther Sanchez wrote:All the posturing for manly values, genius and competence, etc except when it comes to whinging about the Patriots' success, then it's just the blanket "they cheat and have only made 7 Superbowls in 15 years by cheating, not because they have the greatest QB/coach duo by a longshot in NFL history." You're right--Mariota, et al were just about to turn the corner and put up four touchdowns against that defense last night if it weren't for biased officiating.
Yeah, with that whuppin', it was ''deflategate'' all over again. The Titans squeaked into the playoffs, and beat a Chefs team that struggled to the top in what turned out to be a weak division. Plus they had to play in NE... In January. Never underestimate home field advantage in a cold weather city.
BTW, I checked, 19° F/-7 C° in the 'burgh.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 1:35 PM  

@13. J. Spicoli:
They did activate Bradford off IR, but yesterday they were saying they probably weren't going to have him dress for the game. Apparently he will suit up today. Since he hasn't set foot on the field since week 5, they won't be eager to pull Keenum if things go wrong.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 1:39 PM  

Roethlessburger tossing a pick at their own 18 didn't help matters however... Two plays later, the Jags took full advantage of that. 14-0

Anonymous Hanging out relaxing talking football January 14, 2018 1:42 PM  

Like the great football commentator Chris Berman says...No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills and Jacksonville was able to beat them. But i wouldnt count the Steelers out.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 1:46 PM  

Per FootballOutsiders, it appears that JAC has a slightly negative offense, about 20th in the League, but the best Pass Defense in the league. And it's looking like that's going to be the nature of the game.

Bortles appears to be better than Dilfer, so they can win a SB if things go right. Seattle's offense actually wasn't very good the year they won the SB, but they did have an all-time great defense. (And then somehow broke the Broncos' playcalling codes.)

Anonymous J. Spicoli January 14, 2018 2:03 PM  

Pitt may have a slight problem with Jax. Take the points.

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 2:22 PM  

What is with this obsessive need by Anglo-Saxons to taunt their opponents and thereby damaging the team effort? Seems like some kind of racial character flaw.

Anonymous Redhawk January 14, 2018 2:30 PM  

Steelers are getting mauled.
Today’s forecast for western PA: high levels of salt

Anonymous Hanging out relaxing talking football January 14, 2018 2:33 PM  

I would love if someone could give a nice explanation as to what Steelers helmet is all about.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 2:33 PM  

J. Spicoli wrote:Pitt may have a slight problem with Jax. Take the points.
Slight problem? This is starting to to resemble '96 all over again. If the Steelers don't turn this around it'll be another AFC championship of Jaguars at Patriots.
I said it before, if it winds up a Jags - Vikings SB I'm going to be agreeing with Vox and saying WWE-style storyline.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 2:41 PM  

Wow, the half just ended, total yards: 199-197. Passing yards, yeah, 83-151. Rush 116-46.
But the stat that matters: Turnovers, Jax 0, Pit 2. Both of those turned into TDs.

Blogger exfarmkid January 14, 2018 2:48 PM  

4. Mr.MantraMan "And a lifelong Packers fan pulling for the Vikings SB win so they can assume their normal under achieving ways"

And the deepest respect and admiration to you as well, Mr. Cheesehead.

Blogger Jabari January 14, 2018 2:58 PM  

Can't give up that TD like that at the end of the half. Jax is done.

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 2:59 PM  

Bortles is very mobile, and on one TD, he faked running it in before tossing to Yeldon. now that's a twist on "play action". unless pitt starts playing a lot of takeaway D, just another home steeler playoff loss (and again to jax).

Anonymous patrick kelly January 14, 2018 3:22 PM  

"They'll be playing New England and the Officials. As we saw in the critical moments last night.

So the whole deflate-gate thing was a 4D chess diversion of a conspiracy by Goodell and Co. to pick Brady-Chick as their golden child? Or are the officials doing some kinda' counter-psyop against the nfl deep state?

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 3:22 PM  

@27 van helsing

During the period where the entire league couldn't figure out how Tebow was winning, a lot of effort was put into figuring out the value of the running ability of a QB. Turns out, as the college game has clearly shown, it's extremely valuable, due in large part to it always being strategically viable. You have to compromise part of your passing & run defense when the QB has solid legs.

The issue at the Pro level is your QB can't absorb the hits, as RB3's career well explains. So you want to use those legs in tandem with your passing offense. If you can freeze a linebacker for 1/2 a second, you create a passing lane. The problem is that the Pro OCs really haven't been too hip to bring in a lot of the wrinkles from the college game. They finally started giving Mariota some of the Run-Pass Option plays, which are extremely effective in the short passing game.

It's probably important to remember that you only need to average 3.3 yards per play to be constantly moving the chains. Deep routes in a non-blitz situation creates 3-10 yard pick ups by the QBs that can run. Heck, Brady & Manning both occasionally took advantage of that. In Bortles case, there was a play in the first quarter where the entire left side was going to be clear, so he just ran it.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 3:25 PM  

@28 patrick kelly

Deflategate seems to be more of an issue with sheer incompetence in the league office. It's a converged organization and their biggest star is a rich, White Man. Goodell was also seen as way too chummy with Bob Kraft and got stuck himself in a purity spiral. All of this because no one knew what the "Ideal Gas Law" is and they couldn't admit they made a mistake.

Anonymous Hanging out relaxing talking football January 14, 2018 3:27 PM  

From some internet site:.... --------------------'''''''''Even before Troy Polamalu was intercepting quarterbacks, Jerome Bettis was busting through defenders for a touchdown or Terry Bradshaw was throwing deep to Lynn Swann, the steel industry was succeeding in its own arena. The three-star symbol that dons half of Pittsburgh’s helmets has a storied past, and it’s one that even the most die-hard of fans may not know.

The Pittsburgh Steelers’ famed three-star logo is one of the most familiar symbols in sports, partly because steel’s inherent strength and toughness is a perfect match for the Steelers’ highly-touted, bone-crunching defense. Only the Steel trademarked logo found on the Steelers helmet brings worldwide recognition and appreciation for these strengths.

Seven decades after Art Rooney purchased the NFL franchise and six Super Bowl victories later, it has come to symbolize the strength of the team and the Steel City it represents.

The three, four-pointed starlike figures within the circle, called hypocycloids for their geometric origin, made it to the NFL in 1962, when Rooney adopted the Steelmark for his football team. The Steelers logo is based on the Steelmark logo belonging to the American Iron and Steel Institute (AISI), whose member companies produce over 80 percent of the steel made in America. The Steelmark was originally created for United States Steel Corporation (called U.S. Steel today), a longtime member of AISI, to promote the attributes of steel: yellow lightens your work; orange brightens your leisure; and blue widens your world. The logo’s meaning was later amended to represent the three materials used to produce steel: yellow for coal; orange for iron ore; and blue for steel scrap.

Back in the early ‘60s, the Steelers had to petition AISI in order to change the word "Steel" inside the Steelmark to "Steelers" before the logo was complete. Cleveland's Republic Steel suggested to the Steelers that they use the Steelmark as a helmet logo.
The Steelers are the only NFL team that sports their logo on only one side of the helmet

Anonymous patrick kelly January 14, 2018 3:28 PM  

Good job deflating my rhetoric.

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 3:30 PM  

agreed. it is just that the young and mobile ones need to learn how to read more complex defenses and succeed against those before they get hurt and/or lose mobility (ie, age). bortles cant do what he is doing now, forever. / otoh, football needs the star system taken down a peg or several, which may happen anyway due to the kneeling and peecee, etc. this wont help fantasy footballers, but so what. there are some players who rack up stats and also win. a lot who rack up stats... just rack up stats. the short pass game paradigm switch in the 70s spawned a lot of that. imho, need more play and formation variation, even including stuff that was done from the 30s-50s. bring all that stuff back. make all skill position players into passers, runners, receivers and blockers. now stop all of that, defense. if they can use the whole playbook, u have to defend the whole playbook.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 3:31 PM  

@29. Looking Glass
True, but it's a double-edged sword. The QB that runs get punished for it. Look at the great White QBs that got known as ''running QBs'', Tarkenton, Montana, Elway, they all took a beating when they did run early in their careers - which is why they stopped doing it. African QBs (with Warren Moon being the one exception) would run as their second option over and over again.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 3:32 PM  

The "Fire Todd Haley" crowd is building up some serious ammunition today, that's for sure.

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 3:33 PM  

Bortles deep pass.

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 3:34 PM  

He playing awesome for such a terrible QB

Anonymous patrick kelly January 14, 2018 3:35 PM  

If the Vikings vs. Jags fix is really in at least someone will take home their first SB trophy.

Anonymous Eli January 14, 2018 3:46 PM  

This game is crazy! Highly entertaining.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 3:51 PM  

When Blake Bortles can pick apart your defense you don't deserve to win a playoff game. Sorry.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 3:58 PM  

@34 YIH

Right. The problem is that most offenses are built around QBs as statues, so they tend to look odd when they're mixing it. You can't treat the QB as a dedicated runner, they can't absorb the hits, try as Tebow might have. Though the fascinating thing is that those 3 QBs mentioned, and Steve Young, are all Hall of Famers, but that only happened after coaches started understanding the value of what they could do.

Actually, the biggest issue in the NFL is team's large unwillingness to actually adapt to their QBs. You have to be "something special" before them to act like they want to win games. This is probably why Belichick keeps beating all of the other coaches. He's got the greatest "Swiss Army Knife" QB of all time and he operates like that. NE has switched from Air Raid to Power Running Offense mid-season, depending on the personnel and injuries.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 4:05 PM  

Eli wrote:This game is crazy! Highly entertaining.
Ain't that the truth. And I thought the Steelers would TCB and face the Patriots. Now the question is will it be a repeat of '96? The Jags proved they can ball in the cold...

Blogger Dave January 14, 2018 4:11 PM  

someone will take home their first SB trophy

Eagles vs Jags. The last SB the Eagles played was in Jacksonville and it was unseasonably cold but it wasn't as cold as Minnesooota will likely be. Of course, with a dome the weather only distracts from the partying leading up to SB.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 4:18 PM  

I was wrong on the SB IX prediction. OK it'll be Patriots - Vikings...

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 4:21 PM  

The other thing that pundits wouldnt credit tebow on, where they would credit the likes of dogkilla, is that he didnt throw a lot of pix. like some melanined QBs, tebow didnt do well on reading defense or touch passes / specialty throws... but he did throw a nice deep ball, like against pittsburgh in the playoffs. tebow also didnt fumble.

Blogger Sambuca Ford January 14, 2018 4:21 PM  

Mike Tomlin continues to be a genius.

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 4:23 PM  

Jags may have a good pass defense, but their open field tackling is wanting. If I can see it, Belichick certainly will.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 4:26 PM  

The question is can Belicheat take advantage of it?

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 4:29 PM  

well, last year, big ben talked of retiring, and was tired of pittsburgh being the pats' "little brother". wonder how he feels about his new daddy, blake bortles?

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 4:34 PM  

Were the Jags trying to throw the game there late?

@45 van helsing

Tebow was done in while he was in high school. He needed that modern, super-fast release and he just couldn't develop to that point. Guy has a really good head for QB'ing, but that .2 of a second reaction difference matters for the way professional offenses have gone. He'd have been a monster in the 90s, but he also needed a playbook shifted to his strengths, not figured out mid-season all the time. (Being a public Christian also hurt him, but for at least 3 years there were always teams that could have done a lot better with him at QB.) But, considering he got out when he did, it might provide him a much better, longer life. And it's not like he'll ever have to pay for food in Gainesville.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 4:34 PM  

After having watched highlights of Gronkowski treating the titan's secondary like an NFL housewife, I still am befuddled at the odious mismatches created in this league between receivers and defensive backs/safeties. Vikings, being at home, have a good chance against the creole swamp creatures from New Orleans.

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 4:40 PM  

Oh well... why not?

Skol, Vikings.

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 4:43 PM  

I can’t beleive the Steelers let a second rate pop warner QB hang 42 points on em

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 4:49 PM  

45 points... tied the 84' divisional game against the Dolphins for most ever in franchise history. Most ever allowed in a home playoff game.

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 5:01 PM  

t2's motion wasnt pro style either. but yes, he had the mind and work ethic and dayum, when he was on the loose past the DL, people sure didnt want to square up and tackle him one on one. / looking at pb in advance of their latest home debacle, it looked to me like they didnt have that good a D and they struggled to put people away. like fred dryer used to say, sort of, u have to beat bad teams badly and early. dont give them any air. the steelers just arent that good. people talk jax played in a bad division with 4 easy wins this year. well what does one call cincy and cleveland. marrone deserves a lot of credit. he started the turnaround late last year with a team that had actually been underachieving for a while.

Blogger Dave January 14, 2018 5:01 PM  

From the Eagle's perspective do you want the future hall of fame QB (hint it's not Case Keenum) and their dual running attack? The Saints are only .500 (4-4) on the road this year and the Panthers shut down their running game last week. Brees and Payton know how to find and exploit weaknesses.

Or back-up vs back-up QBs? Keenum and Files but both teams have very good running games. Vikings D is very good and their secondary has the edge on the Eagles. However the Eagles D is no slouch either as the Dirty Birds found out yesterday.

No doubt the NFL would prefer the Pats/Saints. Let's see how the calls go.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 5:06 PM  

And these pass interference calls against the saints DB just underline the point that DB is the worst position to try to succeed at, and seems to be the officials preferred method of spotting the offense a touchdown or two.

Blogger Solaire Of Astora January 14, 2018 5:12 PM  

Yeah, between that free first down and those calls I'm figuring the Saints are losing this. Officiating is going to tip the balance against them.

Blogger Jeff Weimer January 14, 2018 5:14 PM  

Wait, WUT? 45-42 JACKSONVILLE?

Is that the first sign of the Apocalypse?

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 5:15 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Were the Jags trying to throw the game there late?

@45 van helsing

Tebow was done in while he was in high school. He needed that modern, super-fast release and he just couldn't develop to that point. Guy has a really good head for QB'ing, but that .2 of a second reaction difference matters for the way professional offenses have gone. He'd have been a monster in the 90s, but he also needed a playbook shifted to his strengths, not figured out mid-season all the time. (Being a public Christian also hurt him, but for at least 3 years there were always teams that could have done a lot better with him at QB.) But, considering he got out when he did, it might provide him a much better, longer life. And it's not like he'll ever have to pay for food in Gainesville.

Now I'll be the first to admit, that Tebow got 'a bad shake' from (((the media))) who absolutely despise Christians that while he did what he had to do as a college QB, he clearly was not NFL starting QB material.
Looking this up I didn't know until now that Tebow is left-handed. Like it or not, in the NFL that alone is a problem. The coaching staff can adjust to it, (https://infogalactic.com/info/Steve_Young and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomer_Esiason) but if they can avoid it they'd rather not.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 5:33 PM  

@60 YIH

Tebow needed to sit for 2-3 years to get his mechanics down for the professional level. The issue was he was too good at moving the chains the instant you put him on the field. For all of his throwing problems, taking his throwing + running together, he was a slightly above average League QB. That was a blessing and a curse.

You saw it with the rest of the spread-option QBs that came in: they were all able to score & move the chains early on. It takes defenses a while to figure out the "book" on the QB to take away what they're best at. And the one thing Tebow was brilliant at was slicing the "prevent" Defense to pieces. That's how they kept winning games late.

Tebow will be fine, though. He goes down at possibly the best college player of his generation and he'll be doing college football "talking-head" stuff for the next 50 years. He needed an organization that actually wanted him, like any top-quality QB. It seems insane to point out that a lot of teams seem to act like their personnel are utterly interchangeable, then we wonder why they fail so much. Call it "Jeff Fischer Syndrome".

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 5:46 PM  

Looks like the Saints are still the "Ain'ts"...

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 5:47 PM  

@60 YIH

One other thing on this topic, that I'd been thinking about for a bit. It relates back to normal politics a bit, but I think NFL organizations might be mostly structured wrong. Or, the structure produces situations where it is simply "too big" for all but a few people to handle.

This issue is exacerbated by professional sports teams being more Toys than Profit-focused Businesses. This is what leads to "Andy Reid's Clock Management" not being a meme but a significant problem for every team he's been with. It would also explain why every attempt to replicate the Belichick approach has failed, as they simply aren't Bill.

In other news, the Saints are having a really terrible first half, and 2 of those 3 PI calls were correct.

Anonymous Difster January 14, 2018 5:48 PM  

Looks like Vikes are going to shut down Brees in the first half at least. Pick inside the 10? That was awesome.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 5:54 PM  

@61. Looking Glass:
Tebow needed to sit for 2-3 years to get his mechanics down for the professional level.
That's not possible anymore, the Vikes have three QBs active right now. That is now unusual, and at least one of them will be available to other teams after March 1.
In the NFL it's about ''win NOW'', it's why the Broncos went for an (almost) washed up QB,

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 6:00 PM  

How gross are Apple Iphone X commercials? At least use some make-up, sheesh.

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 6:10 PM  

Well the pack had rodgers sit for awhile. and he looks ok. and garoppolo mostly sat and appears to be hitting paydirt in SF now. in the olden days most high QB draftees sat for a while... or didnt always play QB early on (Billy Kilmer)... but for the guys who dont get to sit and learn from a likely HoFer... it's ready or not, into the fray.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 6:15 PM  

@65 YIH

Manning actually had his best statistical season the 2nd year in Denver. It was his 4th and final year that he couldn't throw anymore. It was the correct call for Denver, and Tebow simply was on the bad side of it.

And I sort of agree on the "Win now" problem, but that also goes back to the core problems all of them have with structure. We end up talking about "good" organizations, and then compare it against the Browns. When you've lost strategic focus, things just go badly.

Blogger Brad Matthews January 14, 2018 6:30 PM  

Funny, I thought the exact same thing. Not a white male in the commercial.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti January 14, 2018 6:38 PM  

The Vikings have been the better team so far but these referees are clearly being told to do everything they can to make sure they win

Blogger van helsing January 14, 2018 6:47 PM  

DD, i hear ya re vikings (cant see the game) but... i'd have to say that the vikes were real consistent down the stretch. the saints lost the bubble out in LA and never really got it back.

Blogger Dave January 14, 2018 6:58 PM  

Bad Case Keenum! Bad! Felt like the Vikings were up 4 or 5 scores, now with that pick it should only be 1 score difference with the whole 4th qtr to go.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 7:09 PM  

Thomas might as well not even be covered.

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 7:19 PM  

Horvath is based.

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 7:37 PM  

Forbath

Blogger jimmy_the_freak January 14, 2018 7:39 PM  

Uh oh... and the Saints take the lead.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 7:41 PM  

Uh oh! 21-20 Saints, 3:00 left...

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 7:42 PM  

Time to see if Keenum can prove his mettle.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 7:45 PM  

I'm feeling a field goal for Vikings win here.

Blogger jimmy_the_freak January 14, 2018 7:46 PM  

And now they've shown the Gary Anderson missed fieldgoal!

Blogger jimmy_the_freak January 14, 2018 7:47 PM  

Vikes need to take some time off the clock.

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 7:50 PM  

Theilen- undrafted free agent. Always

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 7:50 PM  

YES! FG! Now they have to stop...

Blogger exfarmkid January 14, 2018 7:55 PM  

Talk about a nail biter.....

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 7:57 PM  

Saints about to get field goal mfer

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 7:57 PM  

doom

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 7:59 PM  

Damn

Blogger jimmy_the_freak January 14, 2018 8:01 PM  

Well look at it this way: at least the Vikings made the field goal this time!

Blogger exfarmkid January 14, 2018 8:02 PM  

Well, there's still 25 seconds left.....

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 8:03 PM  

@88 jimmy_the_freak

There is still a chance to miss a FG to lose.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) January 14, 2018 8:03 PM  

ah, the much vaunted Prevent The Win defensive scheme.

i especially like how they didn't bother attempting a rush until the Saints were already well within field goal range.

the benefit to blitzing every down is,
IF it doesn't work
THEN you're still going to have clock left.

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 14, 2018 8:06 PM  

You forget, the Jags were a pain in the Steelers’ collective asses when they joined the AFC Central.

Well that and Tomlin loves to play down to the competition.

Blogger jimmy_the_freak January 14, 2018 8:07 PM  

Holy shit!!!!!!1111!!!!

Blogger Jabari January 14, 2018 8:07 PM  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 8:07 PM  

Holy shot!!!!

Blogger 罗臻 January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

Nice ending!

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

HOLY S.H.I.T!

Blogger Billy January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

God is great

Anonymous Laz January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

LOL! The aints crap out again.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

okay, i'm convinced the NFL is rigged.

what in the FUCK was tackle 'attempt' about?

Blogger exfarmkid January 14, 2018 8:08 PM  

And Vikings win! Un-effenheiming-believable!

Anonymous Valiant January 14, 2018 8:09 PM  

Wow. What a catch!

Blogger Sambuca Ford January 14, 2018 8:09 PM  

Skol!!!!

Blogger Shamgar January 14, 2018 8:09 PM  

What the hell was that DB doing?

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 8:09 PM  

AND THEY FUCKING DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous RW January 14, 2018 8:09 PM  

SKOL VIKES!!!

Blogger DBSFF January 14, 2018 8:10 PM  

Oh my god.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 8:11 PM  

Well, that happened.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 8:11 PM  

Looks like NO DB got order to tackle his own teammate rather than the MN receiver. The Narrative Lives.

Anonymous patrick kelly January 14, 2018 8:11 PM  

Did a Saints player just take a dive by actually taking a dive?

Blogger WATYF January 14, 2018 8:11 PM  

I can't even. How do you miss that tackle?

WATYF

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 14, 2018 8:12 PM  

I called it way earlier... the DB on WR is an easy exploit. In gaming terms, WR are waaaay OP, and the toss up glitch wins again.

Blogger Shamgar January 14, 2018 8:12 PM  

what difference at this extra point does it make?

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 8:14 PM  

@113 Shamgar

Probably some odd rule to solve some odd problem. Kickers chunk of the Union insisted on it in the last contract? No clue!

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 8:15 PM  

Call it a ''preplanned ending'' if you want, but they won.

Blogger Banjo January 14, 2018 8:15 PM  

Well. That just happened.

Sucks to be a Saints fan I guess (said the Falcons fan).

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 14, 2018 8:18 PM  

"what difference at this extra point does it make."

Because the defense in theory could return a botched attempt for two points.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 14, 2018 8:18 PM  

CB miss timed his coverage. He dove to avoid a clear pass interference if he hit the WR. CB ran into a physics problem he couldn't solve, and the solution ran to the NFC Championship game.

Blogger Lew Rand January 14, 2018 8:18 PM  

A very unlikely but possible is he thought the receiver was going to miss it and wanted to make sure that they didn't get a free penalty if he had touched them in any minor way.

I mean he didn't just miss, he missed by a mile.

Blogger YIH January 14, 2018 8:24 PM  

I said the Saints were going to give the Vikings a real challenge. I didn't expect a miracle finish. That wasn't fake.
Now the ''warm weather'' Vikes have to go to cold weather Philly...

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) January 14, 2018 8:34 PM  

120. YIH January 14, 2018 8:24 PM
That wasn't fake.



sarcasm tag detected.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) January 14, 2018 8:36 PM  

ie, safety makes a clear and obvious choice to refuse to tackle the receiver.

gots ta cover that up somehow.

Blogger tublecane January 14, 2018 8:38 PM  

God made me suffer through a Falcons-level 2nd half collapse so that my joy at seeing Williams pull a Buckner-level boner would be that much greater.

Why on earth would you fix a game like that? Especially considering Williams could've simply not intercepted the ball earlier.

Anonymous ScarletNumber January 14, 2018 8:39 PM  

@117

> Because the defense in theory could return a botched attempt for two points.

Yes but the Vikings still would have won. Therefore, the try was moot. Silly rule. In college the game would have been over.

Blogger Aaron January 14, 2018 8:42 PM  

Um, am I the only one who thinks maybe Drew Brees should be under suicide watch?

His last play drive of the game to give his team the lead, and then... I can't even.

Anonymous DTA January 14, 2018 8:43 PM  

LOL, that was the only game I've seen this season. Looks more and more like pro wrestling.

OpenID midnightsun300 January 14, 2018 8:45 PM  

Vegas line Vikings -5.
Go figure.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti January 14, 2018 8:50 PM  

As I said the refs handed this game to Minnesota on a silver platter.

Those strange challenges from Payton were because the Saints' monitor was cut. He had no information from upstairs, because the people upstairs weren't getting a camera feed.

I'm just grateful we had a chance to win with 25 seconds left. It's more than I expected, even without all the blatant fixing.

Anonymous Difster January 14, 2018 9:17 PM  

Fixing? Get over yourself.

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 9:18 PM  

https://www.myinstants.com/instant/minnesota-vikings-horn/

Vikings horn

Blogger Lazarus January 14, 2018 9:19 PM  

I gave up and went to do other things.

pity me.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti January 14, 2018 9:23 PM  

Get over yourself.

Get a real QB

Blogger Quilp January 14, 2018 9:31 PM  

Dilly Dilly, Going to Philly.

Blogger VD January 14, 2018 9:35 PM  

As I said the refs handed this game to Minnesota on a silver platter.

You're wrong. The Saints tried to play Seattle secondary style and the refs simply did not let them. The refs could have thrown more pass interference calls than they did. The Saints' DBs were committing multiple penalties on more than a few pass plays because they couldn't stay with Thielen and Diggs.

Blogger VD January 14, 2018 9:39 PM  

It appeared that Vikings wideout Stefon Diggs had as much of a handful of Crawley as Crawley had of Diggs on the second one.

Watch the whole play. As Diggs goes by Crawley and extends his arm to block him out, Crawley grabs Diggs's jersey and holds on for about five yards. Diggs grabs Crawley's hand to try to pull it off. If you only watch the end of the play they kept showing, it looks mutual. But if you watch the whole thing, it's obvious.

I have dealt with that exact move by slower defenders in every single soccer game I've ever played.

Anonymous Darth Dharmakīrti January 14, 2018 9:42 PM  

You're wrong. The Saints tried to play Seattle secondary style and the refs simply did not let them.

That doesn't explain the bizarre non-call when Drew Brees' facemask got a fistful of Viking, or the bizarre call when Keenum got hit on a clean play, or the bizarre non-call when Thomas (IIRC) got tackled before the reception...

All of that beings said the Vikes played the better more complete game and I did not expect the Saints to be anywhere near having a chance to win with less than a minute left. Well done.

Blogger VD January 14, 2018 9:50 PM  

That doesn't explain the bizarre non-call when Drew Brees' facemask got a fistful of Viking, or the bizarre call when Keenum got hit on a clean play, or the bizarre non-call when Thomas (IIRC) got tackled before the reception.

None of those calls were bizarre. The Brees play could have gone either way. There was contact; it would have definitely been called against Tom Brady. I wouldn't have complained about it because those calls do get made, but it wasn't "forcible" as the rule requires. The Keenum play was not clean, look at it again. We were sure it would get called before we even saw the flag. The Thomas call was one of those bang-bang situations; the Saints benefited from exactly the same non-call later and I didn't have a problem with either one.

Notice that if the ball is high, the refs usually don't call the DB getting there a fraction early. They are much more likely to call it on low balls. I think it's harder to see.

Blogger Retrenched January 14, 2018 9:59 PM  

Proof the NFL isn't fixed: No one would've booked Jacksonville to go over the Steelers.

Blogger Christopher B January 14, 2018 10:04 PM  

The play he called the first challenge on happened right in front of him.

I got the impression from both challenges that he wanted play to stop at that moment. Why not call for a challenge? You're going to use a time out anyway so you may as well roll the dice and see if you can get the pause along with a more favorable game situation, and save a time out as a bonus.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( the Original Militant Apathist ) January 15, 2018 12:46 AM  

140. Christopher B January 14, 2018 10:04 PM
Why not call for a challenge?


because you've only got two, so you don't want to burn them on plays where you obviously don't have a chance of getting a ruling.

they call the position "safety" for a reason, there isn't anybody behind him. the receiver was clearly going to come down with the ball.

in that situation, given a choice between possibly arriving before the ball OR letting the receiver get away scott free, you HAVE to hit him.

besides, that's why he's paid pro money. to line up to hit the receiver at the same time the pass gets there. that's his JOB.

Keenum's pass wasn't very good, he made the receiver basically jump straight up, to his max vertical. lot of hang time and made a target out of Diggs. that's a good way to get receivers hurt.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 15, 2018 1:06 AM  

Didn't we agree this was pro wrestling two weeks ago?

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