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Tuesday, January 09, 2018

Panic in the NFL front office

I wonder what their excuse will be this time?
The NFL had a disastrous weekend when it came to ratings. Numbers have been down all season and it was more of the same for the wild-card games. The biggest surprise was that the best game (Panthers-Saints) had the biggest decrease year over year. Yes, markets were a big factor, but that was a competitive and entertaining game. Here's the breakdown:

Titans-Chiefs (14.7) was down 11 percent versus last year's Raiders-Texans game.

Falcons-Rams (14.9) was down 10 percent versus last year's Lions-Seahawks game.

Bills-Jaguars (17.2) was down 10 percent versus last year's Dolphins-Steelers game.

Panthers-Saints (20.4) was down 21 percent versus last year's Giants-Packers game.
Hmm... so, what could possibly explain that surprise? What is different about the people down in Louisiana and North Carolina than the people in New York City? Aren't they a little more likely to be patriotic and to serve in the military?

This is a classic case of the consequences of corporate convergence.

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Anonymous mycale January 09, 2018 8:14 AM  

I saw that Gamma Goodell was trotting out "our ratings are still high" argument. Make no mistake, these ratings are a DEFCON 1 emergency and in a functioning organization they would already be rolling out the guillotines. Of course they did the opposite and handed this guy a brand new contract while also promising to give BLM tens of millions of dollars...

Anonymous Pug January 09, 2018 8:14 AM  

Do they just don't want to say it aloud, or are they geniunely oblivious? A little bit of both?

Blogger JACIII January 09, 2018 8:18 AM  

NFL team ownership is starting to look a lot like horsefarm ownership in that ownership is more of a buy-in to an exclusive club than a financial venture. Any winnings are for bragging rights and to offset annual dues (financial loss).

They are obviously unconcerned about declining revenue to an extent that would shock the execs of their other ventures.

Blogger rumpole5 January 09, 2018 8:20 AM  

Cognitive dissonance! I am delighted at the justice of it and disgusted and despairing at the damage to a quintessentially American institution, all at once. It is a grim feeling.

Anonymous Steve Canyon January 09, 2018 8:23 AM  

I saw bits of the Chiefs game and the Panthers game. The Chiefs game was an abomination from a refereeing standpoint. That definitely detracts from the enjoyment of the game. The thing that really struck me was the reliance on instant replay. Not only does it repeatedly interrupt game flow, but when they appear to rely on replay video and still blow the call, it lends credence to the conspiracy theories behind a pre-determined Super Bowl outcome. Anthem protests do play a considerable role in the decline, but the product on the field's declined markedly in the last couple of years as well.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 09, 2018 8:27 AM  

For my lulz I hope that the big doofus black dudes who put the screws to the NFL for their soc justus racket decide in all their brilliance that white sooooooooopremacy is the greatest threat to something or another and that the NFL and its corporate partners must address this week in and week out.

I'd actually send money to Anglin if he could troll the NFL and its media lickbois to actually snap at that.

Blogger JACIII January 09, 2018 8:30 AM  

Steve Canyon wrote:I saw bits of the Chiefs game and the Panthers game. The Chiefs game was an abomination from a refereeing standpoint. That definitely detracts from the enjoyment of the game. Anthem protests do play a considerable role in the decline, but the product on the field's declined markedly in the last couple of years as well.

Yep the "He looked at me!" rules on roughing the passer and kicker come to mind.

It's like there are three teams on the field A, B, and league management; "Team A is much better, but can they overcome the hostile management team? Will Johnny saying something nasty to Freddie cause trouble with team chemistry?" It's like someone stirred up football with cheap, scripted reality TV.

Blogger Jew613 January 09, 2018 8:31 AM  

They should be equally worried by their merchandise sales falling 20% or more and the licensees know exactly who is to blame.
Licensees see drop in NFL sales

The owners all made their money elsewhere so you'd think theyd be hard nosed businessmen, but it seems they are doubling down.

Anonymous Weak January 09, 2018 8:33 AM  

It's not that people in Louisiana and NC are more patriotic that affects the ratings of Panthers-Saints. Both of those fanbases are hard core. They'll tune in to watch their home teams. It's the other three games that they won't bother watching.

Anonymous WinstonWebb January 09, 2018 8:37 AM  

In defense of Jerry Jones (never thought I'd utter that one...), he at least made a very public attempt to not renew Goodell's contract.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 09, 2018 8:38 AM  

I don't know about NC being a hard core fan base, middle of the season I watched a bit of a Sunday night game and lots of seats and I mean a lot of seats were empty. Other than that I think you are correct because all the weekend's games look well attended even LA which has been the butt of jokes attendance wise all year.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 09, 2018 8:49 AM  

NASCAR which I like also has suffered a ratings decline, it is leading the way in fact in budget crunching because of that. Can't blame that on black fatigue either, so my guess is that Americana is going the way of our empire, fragmentation.

The wife woke up with some serious Bama hate this morning, not because they cannot play football but the team's vibrancy so to say. So Bama being the heel a plus or a negative?

Anonymous Avalanche January 09, 2018 8:55 AM  

@8 "The owners all made their money elsewhere so you'd think they'd be hard nosed businessmen, but it seems they are doubling down."

But, the owners aren't rational about owning a football team... any more than a 50-yr-old man is rational about a hot red Mustang! DESPITE the (nasty petty vicious -- but I repeat myself) feminists calling it a "man's second childhood" -- it's not that AT ALL! The man (and boy) has wanted that car (that Harley, that small (or large) plane, that football team) since he WAS a boy.

It's just that now -- having 'made his nut' -- he can AFFORD to fulfill his dream. Sure, he had to work 40 years to buy it -- but the dream was real, and it's part of WHY he worked for 40 years! Money is how you (men) keep score; and part of keeping score is 'taking scalps' (no offense, Dark Lord; but then, as I understand it, the American Indians learned it FROM THE FRENCH!).

Buying that sports car (or football team) is his trophy for winning!

Blogger Billy January 09, 2018 8:59 AM  

That collage game damn, all of it. Down to the halftime show was just shit

Blogger JACIII January 09, 2018 9:01 AM  

Roll Tide!

Blogger Billy January 09, 2018 9:04 AM  

Not to sound some kind of way, but for lack of a better way to describe it. I had to turn that game off last night. It was niggamania wall to wall( I said nigga, not nigger).

Blogger SemiSpook37 January 09, 2018 9:13 AM  

This video perfectly outlines a lot of the factors that are affecting the ratings:

https://youtu.be/pwofkOVeSs0

Anonymous John January 09, 2018 9:27 AM  

> NFL team ownership is starting to look a lot like horsefarm ownership in that ownership is more of a buy-in to an exclusive club than a financial venture. Any winnings are for bragging rights and to offset annual dues (financial loss).

Except the NFL owners make hundreds of millions of dollars regardless of their teams win/lose record. Nothing about NFL ownership is even close to what you claim.

Anonymous Elmer Fudd January 09, 2018 9:28 AM  

I don't watch football because the black players:

1. are over-represented in the sport, and the NFL refuses to implement diversity hiring;
2. have culturally appropriated a once-All-American game;
3. continually flaunt their black privilege.

Also: I'm not interested in watching a bunch of blonde-stealing, showboatin', tatted-up dindus flounce around on the field.

Mostly that last one.

Blogger James Dixon January 09, 2018 9:35 AM  

> Except the NFL owners make hundreds of millions of dollars regardless of their teams win/lose record.

Because of TV contracts. What happens to those contracts when they come due again and ratings are half of what they were when it was negotiated last time?

Blogger Bucephalus January 09, 2018 9:38 AM  

I have never seen a commissioner sexually assault/feel up draft picks as Goodell does on draft night as he congratulates them. Not that he will change his ways, but the tell all will be the Super Bowl ratings, as even non football fans usually sneak a peak at the big game. Either way, the NFL has been tainted by Leftists,ruined, because they destroy everything they come into contact with.

Anonymous BBGKB January 09, 2018 9:49 AM  

When will we get a cryptofashion Boycott the NFL apparel?

NFL team ownership is starting to look a lot like horsefarm ownership

I am pretty sure hundreds of millions of my taxes didn't go toward buying a horse racetrack.

OT: Dear Moslems my friends & I are painting pictures of Moohamad blowing pigs at
345 Park Ave, New York, New York 10017

Anonymous John January 09, 2018 9:51 AM  

> Because of TV contracts. What happens to those contracts when they come due again and ratings are half of what they were when it was negotiated last time?

Verizon just negotiated a five year deal worth $1.5 billion to stream NFL games. That was in December of 2017, and that's just for streaming. The current tv deals run through 2022. NFL teams make $200 million dollars a year just for existing, ie without adding in any in season revenue.

Blogger JACIII January 09, 2018 9:52 AM  

James Dixon wrote:> Except the NFL owners make hundreds of millions of dollars regardless of their teams win/lose record.

Because of TV contracts. What happens to those contracts when they come due again and ratings are half of what they were when it was negotiated last time?


And let's not forgot those taxpayer funded bazillion dollar stadiums.

Blogger Johnny January 09, 2018 10:06 AM  

I haven't watched football and I don't feel a loss, so perhaps I am through watching forever. A lingering regret is that I have nothing left to boycott. Football was the only thing on TV that I routinely watched.

A problem with owning the media is that you can come to believe your own lies because you are talking to yourself when listening. It would seem that is where the SJW's are. The logical disconnect is strong in them.

Anonymous c matt January 09, 2018 10:11 AM  

Something seems off when you have to spend money on advertising to convince kids to play the game. Growing up, I never recall an ad trying to convince me to play football.

Blogger Lazarus January 09, 2018 10:22 AM  

@14 Down to the halftime show was just shit

What? A black guy struttin' and posin' and runnin' his mouth surrounded by whitey's technology?

Fit right in.

Blogger Chris Jackson January 09, 2018 10:23 AM  

Interesting that the biggest drop was the highest scoring game.

Anonymous Sorcerygod January 09, 2018 10:23 AM  

The NFL, interestingly, does not compete directly with the other sports of the world. In a face-off against World Soccer (the "real football") it would lose.

Because teams are divided along city lines, and generally within countries (with Canada added on in a few cases, though not in the NFL) there isn't need for a global marketplace of teams. But *could* there be? Of course there could.

It is easy to visualize an intercontinental league and a new sport based on a mash-up of existing sports. What if you took Indy racing, football, soccer, lacrosse and a few other sports, linked them in one super-stadium, with action changing from lane to lane, and ALSO gave the audience a chance to participate with remote-control-type devices and perhaps remotely controlled balls? Wouldn't THAT be interesting?

Because sports teams were now worth in the low billions apiece, there is some incentive for something like this to happen. All it would take is --

[continues:]

https://starofmagic.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/trophy-of-a-hockey-player-in-a-formula-one-racer/

Anonymous Broken Arrow January 09, 2018 10:26 AM  

The problem isn't a temporary ratings drop, but that the fans are finding other things to do which means they won't come back.

Before the playoffs I heard people say the viewers would be back for them, they did not return.

It's a downward trend now, so not only does the NFL have to stop the decline they have to get the audience back. Good thing the guys in charge are putting business before politics...oops.

Anonymous MIG January 09, 2018 10:30 AM  

They have very deep, bottomless pockets. This is not a prophit-based organization.

Anonymous MIG January 09, 2018 10:33 AM  

To add: same as MSM.

Anonymous Jeff January 09, 2018 10:34 AM  

Unfortunately, the money from TV contracts may continue to flow for a while. Although the existing, old-time Networks will no longer be able to afford to renew broadcasting rights, word is that Google, Faceberg etc. are going to pick up the slack.

Anonymous Iron Spartan January 09, 2018 10:34 AM  

Officiating this year has been the worst it has ever been. No one even knows what a catch is this season.

One of the things that has always hurt football was the constant rule changes, this season it has gotten out of hand when even the announcers have no clue whats going on.

Blogger Johnny January 09, 2018 10:36 AM  

The real strength of football is that the game is right for TV. It visually displays well on the small screen. It is no fluke that it grew up with the boob tube, the two fit together. I suppose that is also why it so easily disconnects from the local and goes regional or national. Thus I doubt it will go away, although it would seem that the NFL has peaked.

Blogger SouthRon January 09, 2018 10:41 AM  

I can't tell you the number of people here in North Carolina that utterly gave up on football this year. Through the entire season I only heard three people express interest in watching the Panthers.

Anonymous Iron Spartan January 09, 2018 10:43 AM  

Mr.MantraMan wrote:NASCAR which I like also has suffered a ratings decline, it is leading the way in fact in budget crunching because of that. Can't blame that on black fatigue either, so my guess is that Americana is going the way of our empire, fragmentation.


NASCAR was one of the first organizations that started chasing the "untapped markets" of blacks and hispanics. They wanted to change the face of the sport to be more inclusive, and started pissing on their long time fan base.

They didn't pick up new fans, lost a bunch of long time fans (myself included), and finding how hard it is to get lost fans back.

Worse for NASCAR, fewer and fewer kids are driving oe even want to learn to drive. Someone who doesn't care about driving themselves are not going to give a damn about racing. NASCAR needs to find it roots or it will collapse slightly ahead of the NFL.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 09, 2018 10:44 AM  

hmmm...

Could it be not only are white folks offended by the black players showing disrespect to the nation and institutions that offered them way more opportunity than they had any right to expect or the start of the demographic/social change? You have the following occurring:

1) Fewer white kids coming up, as the old baby boomers die off and are not replaced at the same rate by their grandchildren.

2) The NFL got very expensive prior to this year, working class folks simply saw going to games as too expensive.

3) The Asians, blacks, Indians and Hispanics imported into the US and increasingly being the younger generations, do not follow the sport, if they follow a sport it is soccer.

4) All of these trends fought against the increase in NFL revenues. One thing that kept it going was the good will of the white middle class, they could think in this one field racial issues were pretty much mute. Once the Black NFL players showed contempt for the paying fans, well that just revealed the underlying headwind the NFL faces. Add in the constant political crap being pushed in our faces, like the pro gay half-time show in the 2015 Super bowl, and the black power crap that same performance, well the player poor behavior was kind of the straw that broke a lot of fan's willingness to overlook the other issues.

Hopefully the NFL will see a continued decline.

Blogger flyingtiger January 09, 2018 10:55 AM  

This boycott is real now. This season was boring, so I can understand the decrease in ratings. However, everybody gets excited about the playoffs. If the ratings are down the NFL is losing fans.

Blogger Nate January 09, 2018 11:10 AM  

at the same time... last nights All SEC Championship (which supposedly no one was going to watch) was up 9% over last year's viewership.

NCAA football has likely moved up to claim the number 2 spot in American sports... and the gap between it and the NFL, while still large, is shrinking.

Anonymous 1814 January 09, 2018 11:33 AM  

Aren't they a little more likely to be patriotic and to serve in the military? indeed, how bout a hand for all the Southerners out there...

Anonymous europeasant January 09, 2018 11:34 AM  

I don't have cable so I couldn't watch the College championship. I heard that there would be a preview before the game of the Black Panther movie where the King of Wakanda, returns home to the isolated, technologically advanced African nation to succeed to the throne and take his rightful place as king.
To top it off I heard that president Trump would be attending. Also hitting the news today is a player saying "F**K Trump". I watch a little football here and there but do not go to the games and do not buy anything that's advertised.
The Africans will ruin the world. Their world wide population is booming thanks to stupid white people.

Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2018 11:36 AM  

Still lower than the Ohio State/Oregon game

Blogger jova January 09, 2018 11:40 AM  

The boycott is just the start of the decline...Local revenues are still a substantial part of their profits...the average local revenues (ticket sales and other stadium revenue) is $150 million per year...we will see ticket sales start declining next year which will start impacting owners quickly. The median profit for an NFL owner is about $25 million, thus a 10% reduction in local revenues will see their profits cut by 50%..changing demographics ensure that ticket sales will continue to decline as there will be fewer and fewer whites (non-whites rarely buy season tickets)...even in New Jersey , which is 20% Black, 15% Hispanic, 10% Asian the fans at Giants and Jets games are 99% White....but the whites are getting older and will be less likely to attend games at the cold and windy meadowlands...

Blogger Ingot9455 January 09, 2018 11:47 AM  

I'm waiting for them to start up an Urban Brawl league out of Shadowrun.

Blogger Nate January 09, 2018 11:57 AM  

and again... this isn't all just the anthem thing. after all... that's over. What's not over... what is still here... is terrible officiating. Terrible officiating is killing the game. its making the games take way to long because of terrible replay reviews... and then somehow they are still getting it wrong.

The NFL has gotten to the point where actual blocking and tackling and throwing and catching is less important than the penalties that result.

Blogger KBuff January 09, 2018 12:05 PM  

Last night's game showed some strong corporate influence, similar to what we are seeing in the NFL. It looked very much like the referees were told to keep the game close in the second half to keep people tuned in. And, yes, the halftime show was indeed terrible. Overall, a disappointment.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 09, 2018 12:20 PM  

From the perspective of a lifelong former fan who hasn't watched one minute of NFL football in two years: the griping about officiating, instant reviews, irritating rule changes, etc. sounds like yada yada. Oh I'm sure the beefs have basis and are warranted, but they've always been there.

Has it gotten worse? A large number of us simply don't know. Again, we haven't been watching. And those reasons are not why we haven't been watching.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 09, 2018 12:37 PM  

I'm waiting for the 'jugger' game from blood of heroes. They put a dog skull on a stake. With chain flails and hooked quarter staffs. You get your eye popped out by a chain? Get your pansy ass back in after its been cleaned up.

Blogger John (not the pope) January 09, 2018 1:00 PM  

Watched 5 minutes of the Saints/Panthers game right before the half. Was glad Panthers were losing & then went for a ride on the bike with my daughter. More fun. Good for my health. Daughter is cool. Happy as all get out that idiot Cam Newton is no longer in the playoffs. Other than that...burn it down brothas...I don't care.

Anonymous Peter B January 09, 2018 1:13 PM  

FWIW, a caller to Rush Limbaugh just put out the idea that NFL viewership would be even worse without fantasy football – and the FF audience is much less likely to have the same sort of team loyalty as the NFL's traditional audience.

Rush thought there may well be something to the idea.

Anonymous not kidding January 09, 2018 1:25 PM  

so next week there is Jaguars/Steelers,..Patriots/Titans....Eagles/Falcons, and Vikings/Saints.. I don't know about you but I am pumped for the Vikings Saints game, that's gonna be really good I think

OpenID paulmurray January 09, 2018 2:26 PM  

The pink shit has got nothing to do with breast cancer awareness. No-one in the civilised world is unaware that breast cancer is a thing. The point of making footballers wear pink is making footballers wear pink. It is a display of political power.

Blogger Jon D. January 09, 2018 2:45 PM  

I was told reliably by "journalist" Ben Lindbergh of the Ringer that there's NO evidence of politics causing a ratings drop in the NFL, and that his fact checkers would have killed any article written about it. And then he warned me to stop spreading hate while his readers called me a white supremacist on repeat.

There's nothing to see here!

Anonymous andon January 09, 2018 2:56 PM  

@51

i was thinking about that last year

it shows that the players are just a bunch of whores - same with MLB and their pink bat

Anonymous might as well watch if yer not busy, get some chips and salsa its better with that I find. January 09, 2018 3:02 PM  

I was checking some Vikings Saints preview articles,.. the Vikings quarterback Case Keenum who started the season as a backup but was thrust into the starting role following an injury to Sam Bradford had agreat year this year throwing for 3,547 yards and 22 touchdowns in 15 games. and he only had 7 interceptions. Vikings finished at 13-3 with Keenum running the show. I was checking out Keenum's highlights and I noticed he can throw the ball deep and he is also mobile in the pocket which to me is a must-have in a quarterback. If was a coach you would not be a quarterback on my team unless you can b=run the ball yourself if you had to. It puts a lot of pressure on a defense when a quarterback can throw and run like Keenum can.

Anonymous BBGKB January 09, 2018 3:25 PM  

Gen Z to the rescue

"“The Wet Dream Team.” They also noticed that the names on the backs of the high-school-aged boys’ jerseys included phrases like “Knee Grow” and “Coon.”

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/ohio-youth-team-kicked-rec-league-offensive-jerseys-185930020.html

Blogger Gordon Scott January 09, 2018 3:50 PM  

Keenum is not just the backup; he's the third string QB.

Blogger James Dixon January 09, 2018 3:59 PM  

> Verizon just negotiated a five year deal worth $1.5 billion to stream NFL games.

The fact that Verizon is run by a bunch of morons is news to absolutely no one.

> The current tv deals run through 2022.

And the league offices are sighing "four more years" in relief.

> Although the existing, old-time Networks will no longer be able to afford to renew broadcasting rights, word is that Google, Faceberg etc. are going to pick up the slack.

Which will only hasten their demise.

> Thus I doubt it will go away, although it would seem that the NFL has peaked.

There will always be die hard fans.

> Terrible officiating is killing the game.

Well that, the rule changes making defensive hits illegal, flat out lousy play, and the general SJW nature of all the coverage.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 09, 2018 4:14 PM  

I notice a few posting here trying to get interest in folks watching the games again. Yeah that's the ticket... discuss all the wonderful pay action, so tempting....

Hahah...will not work, we are on to you.

As the left has politicized everything, now you will reap the crop you planted. Thought we would have to eat it, didn't you? About half the nation opposes this, and we will no longer pay or play your games.

I heard some leftist saying that normal TV was down about 10% this year, the NFL is still highly rated. See no problems....!!!!

What they are missing is that the folks on the right are done with most mainstream media. When I was a kid my family watched 1-Adam 12, dragnet, various main-stream programs such as the news, local and national. In my house, now none. One by one the programs ceased to be watched as they became ever more leftist and contrived. We are not watching the latest "fun" edgy program about fag-hags (Debra messing), transgendered 9 year olds (Rosanne something's new show), leftist news, or any kind of soviet new Womyn movies such as Star Wars. Nope, all of that programming will garner not a bit of watching at my house nor will my children ever be exposed to it in their youth.

Not dictated by Dad, Mom, used to like the bachelor show, it became leftist tripe (or so she tells me), the Sunday news shows she watched all her life, gone as unwatchable leftist crap.

Still have an HBO subscription because of west world, and the various series we liked, but that is likely to go at the end of this year. Once a habit is broken it is broken.

The left has stepped in big poo, not only with the NFL but with all of their un-American propaganda. Your contempt of the traditional folks shows and we return such contempt with interest. We have become 2 distinct people inhabiting one land, this will not end well for anyone. But it was the left that pushed this into conflict with their attempt to create a new socialist people.

Eat shit leftist trolls.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 09, 2018 5:46 PM  

Also the Vikings Saints have playoff history. In 1987-88 the 8-7 Vikings hammered the 12-3 Saints 44-10 in the Superdome. Then the two met again in in the 09-10 NFC championship they met again and the Saints got some measure of revenge with a thrilling 31-28 overtime victory. That Saints team went on to win the Super Bowl that year. So that sets the stage for a sort of rubber game if you will of the ongoing Vikings Saints playoff series.

Blogger Thucydides January 09, 2018 6:57 PM  

Will be interesting to see the manoeuvring in 2020 and 2021 as the league tries to renegotiate contracts with the networks. And if converged tech is buying in to keep things afloat, then it will be even more fun to watch as they realize what they bought into......

OpenID leukosfash January 09, 2018 7:05 PM  

Sam the Man. Largely agree, but you've got to get the right-left paradigm out of your mind. That illusion has evaporated. It is globalist (((oligarchs))) using social (Marxist) engineering tactics to control and distract white, Christian western populations while (((they))) loot their nations' treasuries. In the US, Conservatives and Democrats are all guilty. Haven't you noticed that both parties hate TGE?

Anonymous Beauty of football January 09, 2018 7:09 PM  

Speaking of playoff series did u know that Montana was 2-3 against the Giants in the playoffs. The Giants were lucky in the 1990-91 championship game. A fake punt and a late fumble by the 49ers and the -often gatorade doused in freezing cold weather- and -good but no Bill Walsh- Bill Parcells goes down in history as being 3-1 against the masterful Bill Walsh in playoff games. Though i was elated at that 15-13 win at the time. (The Giants didnt have the balls to score a touchdown in that game but they had 5 field goals) I think the 49ers were the superior team that year.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 09, 2018 7:47 PM  

Including both regular season and playoffs I believe Walsh and Parcells are tied 3-3 when coaching against each other in NFL games with NFL players and its 1-0 Walsh when coaching against each other in NFL games with non-NFL players (strike shortened 1987-88 season)

Blogger Right Republican January 09, 2018 8:03 PM  

I certainly hope this thread gets forwarded and read by the NFL PTB. My family going back decades have always watched NFL and viewed the commercials funding the TV broadcast. We stopped the week Trump spoke out against the kneelers. I relented a bit in week 16 and 17 and watched two games. We skipped this weekend completely. We found that we have better things to do than watch these players disrespect the whole country over their chosen political issue. But I do miss football. If the NFL comes out and unequivocally states that political demonstrations during the National Anthem are prohibited, and all players must stand, helmets in hands, hands on hearts, no arm-locking and especially no (black) fists raised in the air, we MAY watch again next year. This year is a wash; they ruined it for us. I feel nothing but disgust for these selfish, disrespectful players.

Blogger Akulkis January 09, 2018 8:57 PM  

"It was niggamania wall to wall( I said nigga, not nigger)."

A distinction without a difference.

Anonymous Haxo Angmaerk January 09, 2018 8:59 PM  

so:

c. 85% of the Whites who used to watch Jew-billionaire-owned monkeyball

are still watching Jew billionaire-owned monkeyball.

pitiful. In related news, the Trumpaholics' "God Emperor" has just reversed hisself on the importation of more .indian streetshitters, and served notice he will sign a massive illegal-legalizing "immigration" bill.

meanwhile, don't forget to MAGA!

suckers.

Blogger James Dixon January 09, 2018 9:26 PM  

... and served notice he will sign a massive illegal-legalizing "immigration" bill.

He's always said he would. As long as the bill a) ends chain immigration, b) ends the immigration lottery, and c) fully funds the wall. Wait, the bill doesn't have those? Then it's DOA.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 09, 2018 10:10 PM  

Re Giants 49ers 1981-1991. It might be worth noting that in 1989-90 the 12-4 Giants couldnt even get themselves in a position to face the 14-2 49ers. The Rams defeated the Giants 19-13 in the playoffs and then those same Rams lost 30-3 to the 49ers a week later. While head to head Giants 49ers playoffs matchups tell a story what is the case is that during the 1981-91 time period the Montana led 49ers were better than the Giants even though they were 2-3 against the Giants in the playoffs.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 09, 2018 10:19 PM  

And we might as well add that the Giants and Lawrence Taylor were no slouches. In the 1986-87 playoff game where the Giants beat the 49ers by a whopping 49-3 margin I do believe the Giants were indisputably a superior team that year.

Anonymous NFL Fanboi January 10, 2018 1:06 AM  

"Hopefully the NFL will see a continued decline."

It may decline, but will it fall precipitously? Not likely. Meanwhile, we will still watch.

Blogger Akulkis January 10, 2018 2:39 AM  

@Iron Spartan

"One of the things that has always hurt football was the constant rule changes, this season it has gotten out of hand when even the announcers have no clue whats going on"

That's precisely why I lost any interest in the NFL and the NBA over 2 decades ago.

Blogger Akulkis January 10, 2018 2:43 AM  

Playoffs are only exciting if you have kept at least nominal interest during the regular season. If you stopped caring during the regular season, you aren't gonna care about the playoffs. And probably not the Most Degenerate SJW Halftime Show Ever Bowl, either.

Blogger James Dixon January 10, 2018 6:34 AM  

> Meanwhile, we will still watch.

What do you mean we, Kemosabe?

Anonymous Beauty of football January 10, 2018 9:48 AM  

Re correction 7:09 Bill Parcells, The plucky, popular, down to earth,common man who was really able strike the right balance between being both a players coach and a disciplinarian, seemingly loved and respected by his players was 2-1 in the playoffs against Walsh. Seifert replaced Walsh after the 1988-89 season.



Anonymous ScarletNumber January 10, 2018 10:55 AM  

@63

> The Giants didnt have the balls to score a touchdown in that game but they had 5 field goals

What do balls have to do with being able to score a touchdown?

Anonymous Beauty of football January 10, 2018 11:27 AM  

Pushing the ball over the goal line. Asserting and imposing your will on a defense trying to stop you especially in the case of a running back. That takes balls in my view. As does in the of a qb standing in the pocket long enough for a receiver to break open and then taking a hit. Football is not for pansies.

Anonymous beauty of football January 10, 2018 2:13 PM  

anyway it was wrong and absurd of me to question the 1990-91 Giants manhood, I apologize if I offended anyone, and I apologize for any offensive thing I ever said ... bye

Anonymous beauty of football January 10, 2018 3:48 PM  

and one last thing we white guys especially us older ones we ought to be more supportive towards African Quarterbacks, I think we are subjecting these fine young men to more pressure then they need to deal with, we should nurture support and help them grow and root for them too, we often see Black people rooting for White people but we don't return the favor and grace enough in my view in football, and in quarterbacks in particular, its good for the country to support the Black Quarterback may they follow in the successful footsteps of Doug Williams, Warren Moon, Donovan Mcnabb, Cam Newton, Steve Mcnair, Russel Wilson just to name a few, may there be many more

Anonymous beauty of football January 11, 2018 10:24 AM  

and one last thing back to the Giants-49ers 1981-91 that we were talking about, you know its a shame that the Redskins had to beat the Bears in 1986-87 semi finals, its not that the Redskin Giants Championship game was terrible,,, it wasn't,,, it was a good game.... but I think Ditka and Payton and the Bears Defense, and the Refrigerator who had soundly beaten the Giants 21-0 in Chicago a year earlier.. The 14-2 Bears, the prior year Super Bowl Shufflers versus the 14-2 1986-87 Giants, that would have a been a really good NFC championship game,

Anonymous beauty of football January 11, 2018 10:59 AM  

re 1986-87 NFL NFC playoffs

And we might as well finish this discussion, with one last point.

Watching some of the games on youtube it did appear that the 12-4 Redskins were the better team against the 14-2 Bears in their 27-13 victory in that playoff game, and it also was clear to me that the 14-2 Giants were the better team when they beat the 12-4 Redskins 17-0 the following week. (the Giants had also swept the Redskins 2-0 that year in the regular season)

So as much as we all may have liked to have seen a Bears Giants NFC Championship game we simply have to give up to the Redskins in the Bears/Redskins game and then also we have to just give it up to the Giants in the Giants/Redskins game, and that's all there is to it.

For those who might be wondering as I was, I believe if I understand the 1986-87 NFL playoff home field determination tiebreaker rules correctly the imaginary 1986-87 Bears Giants NFC championship that we can only dream about would have been played at Giants bc while the two teams had the same record against their divisions the Giants had a better record against the conference.

Anonymous beauty of football January 12, 2018 7:15 AM  

and speaking of successful Black quarterbacks, we definitely must include Randall Cunningham in that previous discussion,

I think I had the good fortune to see the below linked play live and I recall being absolutely blown away by the magnificence of it,

I don't know if Elway or Montana could have made that play. Actually I would say as good as they were, they couldn't make that play.

quite a privilege you are gonna get if you check out this below link


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MeycJbMIAw

Anonymous beauty of football January 12, 2018 9:22 AM  

and then one last point about that 1986-87 NFL season,.... we mentioned the 14-2 Giants and the 14-2 Bears not meeting each other in the playoffs that year because of the 12-4 Redskins.... what I wanted to expand on was that while the 86 bears were a great team, they were not quite the 85 Bears. There is other evidence of this besides the Bears Redskins game that I mentioned, For example while the 85 Bears defeated the Los Angeles Rams 24-0 in rather grizzly fashion in the NFC championship game, the 86 Bears lost to Los Angeles Rams 20-17 in week 9 of the regular season. Also while the 85 Bears swept the season series 2-0 against Vox's Vikings. Vox's Vikings, split the 86 season series with the Bears 1-1.

The broader exhaustive point that I am trying to make in bombastic fashion is that in the 1986-87 season, while Singletary and Dent and Duerson and the rest of the Bears were -bad- in the Michael Jackson sense of the word, Lawrence Taylor, Carl Banks, Leonard Marshall and the rest of the ferocious and enthusiastic 1986-87 Giants were even badder.

Anonymous beauty of football January 12, 2018 2:18 PM  

but anyway fast forwarding to the present I was speaking to my brother who really is intimately acquainted with the current Nfl season unlike myself, and he said he likes the 11-5 Saints on the road against the 13-3 Vikings because of their one-two punch of running game and passing game and their experience, so we will see what happens

Anonymous beauty of football January 12, 2018 2:31 PM  

but what the Vikings have on their side in addition to their awesome 13-3 team is my rooting power, I am rooting for the Vikings because I like Vox, that's mainly why, and I like their uniforms too, (though I also like the Saints uniforms),

That's another thing about this game its an NFL uniform lover's dream.

So for various reasons I am up like a plane for this game, I don't know if you have ever seen the player Ray Lewis before a game and how excited he gets, I feel exactly like that about this game.

Anonymous closing statements January 12, 2018 4:59 PM  

listen, I say too much, one day I hope and pray to correct that.. may the best teams win, and no matter what happens may good sportsmanship always prevail

Anonymous Beauty of football January 13, 2018 11:33 AM  

But another thing i noticed. Players salaries. Now i know they invest a lot into theor careers time and health wise plus its takes their time away from developing other careers as well so i think it would be only fair for their salaries to be higher than average. But still with the ranging from 480,000 to 20 million on the rosters i was looking at the other day. While the enyertainment value is very high and the demand is clearly there (check out a home Seahawks game) I would say that the salaries still should come down somewhat. Some of that money could go to public schools, doctors and nurses hospitals, cancer research, stuff like that.

Anonymous Beauty of football January 13, 2018 12:07 PM  

But then again i guess thats part of the freedom system which includes economic freedom. Also i would imagine many of them are very generous and charitable. ... We hear about ratings declines and empty seats. That will bring revenues down which might bring the salaries down which might have the effect of drawing back more fans who now dont feel any kind of lowered self esteem bc of the fact that the players they root for make so much more than them

Anonymous Beauty of football January 15, 2018 10:32 AM  

I was thinking about what i had said about the 49ers and the 1980s....I think the country has a tradition of competition as opposed to monopoly. I think its better that the 49ers won 4 times during Montanas run rather than 8 times. It makes everything more interesting. The think i like the way the NFL does things.

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