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Monday, January 22, 2018

So what comes next?

Bruce Charlton recommends calling out the liars:
As Vox Day has accurately stated, and as we all ought to know by now, SJWs Always Lie: which means that the mass media, government, bureaucracies and all large mainstream institutions Always Lie.

And Liars cannot be trusted: should not be trusted.

So when you believe that they are lying, you should say, preferably out-loud and clear, that you do not believe them.

This is the next step.

This is what the public, what people-in-general need to hear. They need to hear people saying what they know in their hearts to be true. In private, in public - this needs to be said.

When They lie, say it out-loud and in something as clear and simple as these words: I Don't Believe It (or I Don't Believe You).
It's customary to remain silent and expect your silence to somehow convey a lack of agreement. But silence is what they are counting on! What discombobulates them is being forced to defend themselves, because SJWs have no ability to do so. Which, of course, is why they will usually resort to an attack, and everyone knows it, which is why most people remain silent.

But that is a mistake. All it does is convince them that you are a pushover and are incapable of resistance. Worse, they will use your silence to convince others that you agree with them when you are not around.

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Blogger Eric Mueller January 22, 2018 8:59 PM  

I appreciate the work people like yourself and Anonymous Conservative have done. It still blows my mind how people will lie when there is no reason to lie, and it's taken me years to wrap my mind around how they work and why they work that way.

Anonymous VFM #3606 January 22, 2018 9:06 PM  

Taleb said something similar in Black Swan. If you see fraud, you must call it out.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 22, 2018 9:11 PM  

But that is a mistake. All it does is convince them that you are a pushover and are incapable of resistance. Worse, they will use your silence to convince others that you agree with them when you are not around.

From personal experience I can assert that this is absolutely true. It's a bit surreal when person A complains to you about what an SJW is doing and then having the same SJW tell you that person A completely supports what they are doing 5 minutes later.

Blogger Bob Loblaw January 22, 2018 9:14 PM  

The big problem is the leftists have corrupted academia, so when you say "I don't believe it", they always have a pseudo-science "study" to back up whatever they're saying. It's too much work for individuals to dig down into these bogus studies and point out where the bias is.

In theory this is self correcting, but it's not - there's no real incentive for academics to savage other academics that don't use proper statistical methods or skew the sample population.

Anonymous basementhomebrewer January 22, 2018 9:33 PM  

Bob Loblaw wrote:The big problem is the leftists have corrupted academia, so when you say "I don't believe it", they always have a pseudo-science "study" to back up whatever they're saying. It's too much work for individuals to dig down into these bogus studies and point out where the bias is.

In theory this is self correcting, but it's not - there's no real incentive for academics to savage other academics that don't use proper statistical methods or skew the sample population.


The rules of convergence are coming into play. Just ran across some SJWs this evening who are making unfounded accusations. A well intentioned ally asked them for evidence/studies that they could circulate and the SJWs responded with "surveys and studies are unreliable, we know this to be true based on the stories we have heard". They are becoming too incompetent to even fudge data and studies now.

Now it's just "I talked to my gender queer friend who said she felt threatened and you are a bigot if you don't think this happens all the time based on that one story"

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 22, 2018 9:38 PM  

"there's no real incentive for academics to savage other academics that don't use proper statistical methods or skew the sample population."

That's where competition should be.

So, how do you incentivize competition in current academia without incentivizing evil?

Anonymous Viiidad January 22, 2018 9:46 PM  

So is it time for me to wear a MAGA hat on YouTube?

Anonymous Godfrey January 22, 2018 9:47 PM  

I've "red pilled" many people over the years. All you have to do is say "I Don't Believe It".

Most of them don't believe it either. They just need someone else to say it first.

Sometimes I even ask simple innocent questions like "Do you understand how Building 7 fell so quickly into its footprint?" or "I've never heard of Muslim burials at sea, have you?" or "What do all those rich, influential, and powerful people talk about at Bilderberg?"

You can see the wheels begin to turn with just a few innocent little questions.

Blogger Pseudotsuga January 22, 2018 9:47 PM  

5) Azure Amaranthine wrote

That's where competition should be. So, how do you incentivize competition in current academia without incentivizing evil?

One way is to follow Mike Rowe's advice, and stop sending our kids to college. Stop supporting the institution and start the hemorrhage of money and significance.

Blogger James Dixon January 22, 2018 9:48 PM  

> The big problem is the leftists have corrupted academia, so when you say "I don't believe it", they always have a pseudo-science "study" to back up whatever they're saying.

You know they're lying. You know the study is lying. Simply say so. That's enough. People already know enough to distrust government funded studies (the global warming folks took care of that for us).

Blogger Phat Repat January 22, 2018 9:49 PM  

THIS. The end.

Blogger Matt January 22, 2018 9:50 PM  

I'm a former academic. I'd say there's no real need to reform academia first - most useful science goes on outside academia anyway. I wouldn't say a kickstarter for an "Alt-JAMA" journal is quite the way to go at this point, but certainly unconverged businesses and other organizations have the resources to do actual sociology research.

Anonymous Anonymous January 22, 2018 9:55 PM  

Mind elaborating Vox? Standing up to a bully is a bad idea if the bully will knock you out for doing so.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 22, 2018 9:57 PM  

Nonsense. Often, getting punched by the bully is the most powerful move you can make.

Anonymous Jo January 22, 2018 9:59 PM  

Living in truth is a painful but necessary thing. All I know is that when I get a room this bucko is going to clean it.

Anonymous Simplytimothy January 22, 2018 10:07 PM  

Be Joe Wilson

Anonymous Cassie January 22, 2018 10:15 PM  

"they will use your silence to convince others that you agree with them when you are not around."

Silence is consent.

This principle is explicitly stated in the OLD TESTAMENT. It's literally thousands of years old!

Anonymous AB.Prosper January 22, 2018 10:22 PM  

Its a significant taboo in the West to call people a liar or tell them you don't trust them.

That needs to change.

Anonymous Sidehill Dodger January 22, 2018 10:23 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:Now it's just "I talked to my gender queer friend who said she felt threatened and you are a bigot if you don't think this happens all the time based on that one story"

Sometimes, it's not even a lie--it's complete nonsense. You can't refute nonsense, you can't disprove it. And you shouldn't try. For example, everything being said about "gender" belongs in this category. (Unless we're talking about grammar.) Their babbling has so corrupted the language they use that they are incapable of speaking sense. At most, they are capable of simulating speech. To react as though one who uses words like "cisgenderqueer" or whatever has actually said something is a mistake.

The proper response isn't, "there is no such phenomenon as being gender queer", but "I can't understand what you just said--and neither can you". Or, to put it more directly, "You seem to be farting out of your mouth again".

Anonymous Sidehill Dodger January 22, 2018 10:25 PM  

Sidehill Dodger wrote:Or, to put it more directly, "You seem to be farting out of your mouth again".
Damn, I should have said "to put it more presidentially"!

Blogger Rashadjin January 22, 2018 10:32 PM  

All in the name of destroying their social standing like Trump's done to the MSM. The trick is that ye ol' herd mentality pressures you into not calling out the liars for what they are because they're above you in the pecking order. Finding new and interesting ways to burn down that pecking order is the name of the game here, and if lefties complain, remind them that their goal is to destroy society and you're just helping them along (by destroying the social power and iCults they're dependent on...)

To that end, Mike Rowe is on the right track with not going into the university system and treating said diplomas like the worthless bits of paper they are. Which leads me to...

@6 Azure Amaranthine

Funnily enough, this is another of those things Jordan Peterson is/was working on, although I haven't heard him talk about it in a while. He had a partner or so in the background working on a system to crowd source the humanities online and get it legit accredited. It'd be a system where Voxiversity and Extra History types compete to create the best lecture series on Rome or what have you and then you get crowd sourced tested on it. Since Peterson's lectures on YouTube have been so successful, he's seeing a setup along these lines as the next logical step since he believes that the real university system has already moved into the internet. If it manages to Kill off the ghouls wearing the carcasses of the old universities, then that's just making the pragmatic reality of it all official.

Which would clean up a lot of the bogus, busy-work, ideological fanfiction 'research' going on by way of trimming the brick n' mortar joints to the bone. The hope is that only the real things survive once all is said and done.

Blogger Thucydides January 22, 2018 10:36 PM  

One of the big Democrat lies has been that the tax cuts will not work. Here is a study which suggests that not only will American workers and companies be reaping the benefits, but the entire global economy will be growing at a rate of an extra $200 billion/year:

https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WEO/Issues/2018/01/11/world-economic-outlook-update-january-2018

When the Democrats said the Tax reform would be an apocalypse, they must have meant it in the ancient Greek form "to reveal". They certainly revealed an appalling lack of knowledge of economics.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 22, 2018 10:52 PM  

Get rid of tenure. Pay professors according to their performance as teachers. Stop fleecing the government for fake grant money. A huge number of sociopaths would not be able to hack it.

A lot of people don't know this, but MANY professors HATE HATE HATE (a little Whiskey reference) teaching and students. For many, the dream job is one where they don't teach at all, and instead research whatever minutiae they are interested in.

Not to brag, but I'm a pretty skilled teacher, and I've written general history books that are actually interesting, rather than dry academic studies.
And of course neither of those would have anything to do with my evaluation if I were a tenure-track professor at a large research university. Fortunately I'm at a very small liberal arts college.

Blogger weka January 22, 2018 10:56 PM  

Linked to both in a long post.

My experience -- every week, but particularly this week when I have had to confront clinical colleagues who made a mistake and DARVOed and idiotic peer reviewiers -- is that it does not matter what you say or do.

They will just make shit up and complain.

So calling them out and living in the truth is better than silence. Silence gives them power.

What galls me is that my managers are commanded to apologize on my behalf.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 22, 2018 11:02 PM  

New Q drop tonight. He does indeed confirm that assassination of POTUS and POTUS family was discussed via text within FBI and other deep staters. Also, foreign allies (plural) were involved in discussions. Also, some of those who are privy to everything are having trouble coping emotionally. I think this is where the True Detective level stuff comes in. Demons doing unspeakable things to children on video. I gather this is part of the truth that won't be made public, certainly not in full detail. As is right. Some things seen can't be unseen and poison the soul.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 22, 2018 11:04 PM  

The sole purpose of politically correct speech is to make sure that truth isn't spoken. To make it too costly and difficult to say, so the lies win by default.

So it's absolutely necessary to say you don't believe them as a critical step in disarming this.

Also, it's good to proclaim you're not obligated to go along with their lies or fantasies either, for example when they tell you Bruce Jenner is a girl now. You have no obligation to participate in that kind of thing at all. And frankly, you do have an obligation not to. You have an obligation for the truth, to keep that feedback loop with empirical reality intact.

Blogger Unknown January 22, 2018 11:25 PM  

@20, I start off by refusing to acknowledge their assumed seniority in any pecking order; their anointed status is not earned, was not asked for, nor freely given by me or anyone else, so why accept it as fait accompli?

Like @25 says, you are not obligated to participate in their mental delusion, so don't. Tell them so, call them a liar, and be done with them.

Blogger Beau January 22, 2018 11:30 PM  

Bruce Jenner is not a girl, and anyone who thinks he is is mentally ill.

Blogger bob kek mando January 22, 2018 11:49 PM  

7. Viiidad January 22, 2018 9:46 PM
So is it time for me to wear a MAGA hat on YouTube?




MAGA so 2017, grandpa.

wear a shirt with Marcus Garvey's picture that says
Make
Africa
Great
Again.


19. Sidehill Dodger January 22, 2018 10:25 PM
Damn, I should have said "to put it more presidentially"!



erm, wouldn't that be more along the lines of,
"What did you just spew out of your shithole?"

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 12:02 AM  

Yes, calling them liars is an excellent way to deal with them. Put them on their heels.

Blogger Chiva January 23, 2018 12:48 AM  

"For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord; walk as children of light" - Ephesians 5:8

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 1:19 AM  

@18-I don't think I'm allowed to spell it out, but there's a term for false, misleading, or merely buffudling statements that aren't even lies: B.S.

Calling out B.S. is a liberating experience.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 1:31 AM  

@24-If our enemies serve the King in Yellow, do we call forth Cthulu to counter him? Who would win in a fight: Cthulu or the King in Yellow?

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 1:32 AM  

@31-Wait, sorry, I forgot Cthulu only swims left.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 23, 2018 3:19 AM  

@24 Andrew E.
@31 tublecane

Some stuff needs to stay hidden for practical reasons. Something lost on most people is that there is an Overton Window to Spiritual Events. You could see someone risen from the dead in front of you, and within a year or two, you'll ignore that it ever happened. When you have no way to mentally frame an event, it eventually just didn't happen.

Which is why you nail people for Tax Evasion, not running a Child P*** ring. The P*** causes too many emotions and can be easier to evade certain aspects. Things "beyond the pale" are harder to nail to people. (Remember, Guccifer actually called Hillary a high priestess in a cult, and he'd seen all of her emails.)

I'm fairly certain Adrenochrome isn't a "thing" (beyond it not being the hardest substance to chemically replicate), but it was used to gaslight other things. There are differently some child sacrifice rituals (and almost assuredly filmed ones) since we're dealing with Moloch worshipers. However, its far more likely to be sadistically torturing children before killing them to harvest their organs.

Put public faces away for corruption, spying and other illegal "official" activities. Use your Ops squads to make the bag men disappear and hunt the networks down to the ends of the earth.

Anonymous JAG January 23, 2018 3:22 AM  

Andrew E. wrote:New Q drop tonight. He does indeed confirm that assassination of POTUS and POTUS family was discussed via text within FBI and other deep staters. Also, foreign allies (plural) were involved in discussions. Also, some of those who are privy to everything are having trouble coping emotionally. I think this is where the True Detective level stuff comes in. Demons doing unspeakable things to children on video. I gather this is part of the truth that won't be made public, certainly not in full detail. As is right. Some things seen can't be unseen and poison the soul.

It's much darker than even that. Q is stating things like 60% of this should stay buried for the sake of humanity.

If the assassination plot is revealed and proven then the G-E has all he needs to start having any people involved executed for treason. It would be justified self defense.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop January 23, 2018 3:29 AM  

It's customary to remain silent and expect your silence to somehow convey a lack of agreement. But silence is what they are counting on! What discombobulates them is being forced to defend themselves

Akulkis, aka Dirk Manly: you are a liar.
https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/11/book-review-sapiens-by-yuval-harari.html#c9112997696218787533

Mr. Rational: you are a liar.

Anonymous Magus January 23, 2018 3:54 AM  

My problem with this is that I'm simply not great when it comes to arguing over contentious ideas on the fly, in front of people. As such, it can end up looking worse, and making their case for them, if I do speak up, and don't do a good job of it.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 3:57 AM  

As I've said for years, silence in the presence of lies is tacit approval.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop January 23, 2018 4:00 AM  

Akulkis wrote:As I've said for years, silence in the presence of lies is tacit approval.

Virtue signaling is a liar's tactic. You lie again.

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 4:23 AM  

> He does indeed confirm that assassination of POTUS and POTUS family was discussed via text within FBI and other deep staters

That's what "insurance policy" normally means in their language. I've been really surprised not even Hannity has noted this. Maybe even he can't quite make that cognitive jump.

Blogger Dire Badger January 23, 2018 4:32 AM  

sometimes you don't even need to lie as much as you need to ask the right questions.

"What, exactly, does Fair mean?"
"What is evil?"
"What's the difference between you hurting my feelings by calling me a sexist and me hurting your feelings by calling you a cunt?"
"Why should women be allowed to compete with men?"
"Again, what does fair actually MEAN?"

The funny part is, right wingers generally can come up with direct, obvious answers to these questions... and ironically enough, most of us could even 'devil's advocate' and fight more effectively for the leftist point of view than the left can (for entertainment reasons, of course).

But when asked these questions, or even asked for a rational definition of whatever multisyllabic word they are throwing around and why it is important, most will become tongue-tied and some actually start crying.

Blogger Dire Badger January 23, 2018 4:33 AM  

excuse me, I meant sometimes you don't even need to expose the lie.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 5:21 AM  

"Virtue signaling is a liar's tactic. You lie again."

By your own logic you would appear to be virtue signaling right now, and that's a generous interpretation.

Project moar, you liar.

Blogger The Kurgan January 23, 2018 5:36 AM  

Wrong. Pedophilia should ALWAYS be made public. It's the only way that those who do it will begin to be strung up from lampposts, as they should be.

Anonymous Luke January 23, 2018 5:44 AM  

Not believing the MM/Alphabets/etc. is laudable and adaptive, no question. It reminds me of nothing so much as a less full version of what Alexander Solzhenitsyn (Nobel Prize in Literature Russian author of "The Gulag Archipelago") wrote in "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich":

"Don't believe them, don't fear them, don't ask anything of them."

Not a bad modern version of what comes first after deciding that the emperor has no clothes and that the Great Oz is nothing but loud noise...

Anonymous Icicle January 23, 2018 6:00 AM  

Some stuff needs to stay hidden for practical reasons. Something lost on most people is that there is an Overton Window to Spiritual Events. You could see someone risen from the dead in front of you, and within a year or two, you'll ignore that it ever happened. When you have no way to mentally frame an event, it eventually just didn't happen.

That's why in the old days, they would gradually introduce you into the Mystery Cult, rather than dump everything on you right away. Most large religions have a occultic / esoteric / mystic branch, even Christianity.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Greco-Roman_mysteries

There are differently some child sacrifice rituals (and almost assuredly filmed ones) since we're dealing with Moloch worshipers.

This isn't well known outside of theological circles, but these deities have different personalities. Some are good, some are very nasty and evil, some are pragmatic and neutral. Some are smart, and some are very, VERY stupid.

However, its far more likely to be sadistically torturing children before killing them to harvest their organs.

They are already doing that in Africa for making muti.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 6:05 AM  

I also disagree strenuously that evil things should be kept secret in any way shape or form. This is precisely how they grow and spread.

As for the argument that peoples' "souls will be corrupted by the exposure of these things", it's hogwash. It hearkens almost directly to Nietzsche's line of thinking when he said "Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." This is not inaccurate, from an Atheist perspective. That's exactly the problem.

Not being an Atheist, I have to say, it all needs to be laid bare, exposed to the light and burned away. If you hide sins, you can't legitimately punish them in the way they ought to be punished, or deal with them in the way you ought. People not "in the know" will almost always pull you back from what actually needs to happen.

The Overton window argument is a bit better, but not much. The harsh reality is, many people will pretend inconvenient things don't happen, for as long as they can afford to. THAT is what you're seeing as the window in this case, people moving from believing that things are irrational fears, finally arriving that they are very real and very present occurrences. Will some people break down if you unveil the evil too fast? Perhaps, but I don't think it will be a majority of the population, and even if it were you can do the reveal gradually so people have time to acclimate.

Don't EVER sweep evil doings under the rug. They don't really go away when you do that.

Anonymous Luke January 23, 2018 6:30 AM  

Not believing the MM/Alphabets/etc. is laudable and adaptive, no question. It reminds me of nothing so much as a less full version of what Alexander Solzhenitsyn (Nobel Prize in Literature Russian author of "The Gulag Archipelago") wrote in "One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich":

"Don't believe them, don't fear them, don't ask anything of them."

Not a bad modern version of what comes first after deciding that the emperor has no clothes and that the Great Oz is nothing but loud noise...

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 7:18 AM  

Forrest Bishop,

Shut up you crank.

Are you an electrical engineer?

I am.

Ask explained to you before, his "anomoly" is based on an assumption that is fundamentally wrong, such that it would be a fair question to put on a test in a sophomore level electrommagnetics physics class, to ask the students what the flaw in his argument is.

His "paradox"is based on the idea that the electric field travels faster than electrons traveling at the speed of light. But electrons NEVER travel at the speed of light. And on his example, the don't even reach 10% of the speed of light.

Now shut up about things which you don't understand, you ignorant fecal collection point.

Blogger JACIII January 23, 2018 8:08 AM  

Silence as agreement is cultural. Inevitably, yankees, women, and blacks believe this. There's a words per minute correlation to this attitude. Some people are so stupid you'd have to beat them to shut them up.

Granted, one must adapt to an eroded society and allowing the enemy to use one's silence to the detriment of one's cause is BAD, so I have found a simple, "That's horseshit." repeated as required will suffice.

Blogger pdwalker January 23, 2018 8:18 AM  

Sidehill Dodger, I prefer “you’re talking out of your ass” myself.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 8:20 AM  

The proper response isn't, "there is no such phenomenon as being gender queer", but "I can't understand what you just said--and neither can you". Or, to put it more directly, "You seem to be farting out of your mouth again".

Little declarative sentences can work well. "Are you crazy?" Or its varient said more forcefully, "You must be crazy!" Repeat as necessary.

Or the softer, "Do you really believe that," said with a smile.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 8:23 AM  

My take on science is that it is another magic dirt sort of thing. We imagine that somehow studious or smart brings with it other virtues and it doesn't. The whole educate everybody beyond basic need has produce another and unnecessary interest group. Don't reform them, eliminate them. I favor in the nicest possible way, but can live with harshly if that is how it plays out.

Blogger pdwalker January 23, 2018 8:26 AM  

Does anyone have a link to the latest Q drop? I’d like to read this for myself.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 8:29 AM  

My take is that you roll over or you take them on depending on circumstance. As advised here and never works is the middle of the road moderate approach.

Anonymous Andrew E. January 23, 2018 9:25 AM  

Does anyone have a link to the latest Q drop? I’d like to read this for myself.


https://twitter.com/LisaMei62?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2018%2F01%2F22%2Frep-trey-gowdy-and-rep-john-ratcliffe-discuss-missing-fbi-text-messages%2Fcomment-page-1%2F%23comments

Anonymous Andrew E. January 23, 2018 9:26 AM  

Better link:

https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/955634589376155649

Blogger pdwalker January 23, 2018 9:53 AM  

Thank you.

Anonymous BBGKB January 23, 2018 10:31 AM  

I've "red pilled" many people over the years. All you have to do is say "I Don't Believe It".Most of them don't believe it either. They just need someone else to say it first.

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Bruce Jenner is not a girl, and anyone who thinks he is is mentally ill.

Jenner only had to kill one female to ID as a woman driver, no charges as Jenner's car was found to have a defective tranny in it.

Wrong. Pedophilia should ALWAYS be made public.

Here is an example of the overton window. This video was shot at a private home party by 2 men who followed a little boy who didn't know them well into a bathroom. The vast majority of people didn't even realize it was shot in a bathroom and that the guy on the right moved to block the boys escape until looking at it with the sound off. The tile of the video should be "2 gay men film little boy in bathroom"

http://www.metatube.com/en/videos/66213/Kids-Reaction-To-A-Gay-Couple/

OMG I didn't notice the boy says at the end "I am going to play ping pong now"

Blogger BriarRabbit January 23, 2018 12:58 PM  

Agreement by silence is called tacit acquiescence. It's how Bill collectors get a judgement against you ratified in the Public when you dont respond.

The courts have ruled repeatedly that silence in a matter in which you are obligated to respond is tacit agreement.

Always respond. Always always.

There are four ways to handle any offer. (Everything is an offer.)

1) Argument. Dishonorable.
2) Silence. Dishonorable.
3) Unconditional acceptance. Honorable.
4) Conditional acceptance. Honorable.

The first two make you a debtor. The second two make you a creditor. Don't be a debtor.

#4 is almost always your best route.

"I conditionally accept your offer to pay you $100 upon proof of your claim that I indeed owe you $100."

"I c9nditionally accept your claim that a man can ever be a woman up9n proof of your claim this is biologically possible."

Contract law.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop January 23, 2018 1:14 PM  

Akulkis (aka Dirk Manly) wrote:Forrest Bishop,

Are you an electrical engineer? I am.


You are an incompetent electrical engineer, as incompetent as Prof. William A. Gardner, who in his 7000 word-salad defamation, could not even figure out the most basic facts about electricity- http://www.ivorcatt.co.uk/x63p.pdf

As an emotionally-unstable and incompetent electrical engineer, you are a hazard to the general public. Your license needs to be revoked.

Akulkis (aka Dirk Manly) wrote:Ask explained to you before, his "anomoly" is based on an assumption that is fundamentally wrong, such that it would be a fair question to put on a test in a sophomore level electrommagnetics physics class, to ask the students what the flaw in his argument is.

His "paradox"is based on the idea that the electric field travels faster than electrons traveling at the speed of light. But electrons NEVER travel at the speed of light. And on his example, the don't even reach 10% of the speed of light.


You are an incompetent liar. You- repeatedly- can’t even spell “anomaly” and “electromagnetics”. The Catt Question is not an assertion about the speed of electrons. You can’t even tell the difference between a question and someone else’s response to that question.

Since 1982 [The Catt Question] has been: Where does this new charge come from? http://www.electromagnetism.demon.co.uk/cattq.htm

I’ve collected some of the inane responses to The Catt Question over the years, yours is one of the very worst, somewhere close to the bottom of the abyss: http://www.naturalphilosophy.org/pdf/abstracts/abstracts6554.pdf At least these respondents understood that they were being asked a question.

Akulkis (aka Dirk Manly) wrote:Now shut up about things which you don't understand, you ignorant fecal collection point.

Have you ever seen the continuity equation of electric current-

i = qc

with i the electric current, q the net line charge per unit length, and c the speed of light?

Can you derive this equation from the equations you posted? Can you show that it is the defining equation of electric current? If not, then you are incompetent. I’ve provided four different derivations, but no fair peeking into the abyss- https://www.scribd.com/document/320890002/The-Forbidden-Equation-i-qc

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:31 PM  

i=qc is not a valid equation, you numbskull.

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Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:34 PM  

once again, MORON, electrons DO NOT TRAVEL AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT.

The only thing that travels at the speed of light is a MASSLESS particle -- i.e. a photon.

Anything that is NOT a photon does NOT travel at the speed of light, and therefore, any equation concerning something to do with it, such as current in a wire composed of electrons or holes, is utter and complete BULLSHIT.

I aced my electromagnetics course.

399 out of 400 possible points.

At one of the best engineering universities in the world.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:37 PM  

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Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:38 PM  

I'm done responding to your idiocy, as you have not shown one iota of comprehension -- all you're doing is cuttinh & pasting from Catt.

Since you have demonstrated ZERO ability to comprehend a single goaddamned word on the subject (not even Catt himself, evidently, or else you would be able to write out his ideas in your own words), this discussion is over.

Why?

Because YOU aren't discussing shit -- you're just blindly regurgitating ... like a 3-day old puppy.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:39 PM  

also, q as "charge per unit line length" is improper notation. q is TOTAL charge.

charge per unit line length is dq/dl.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:47 PM  

I will grant Catt "I=qc" (poor notation and all) if you can show me ANY reputable source that says that electrons travel in a wire at c, the speed of light.

(Hint: You'll never find ANY such reference, because electrons traveling in a wire are, in relativistic terms, EXTREMELY slow.

c = 3x10^8 m/s

The best electrical conductor known is pure gold

The speeed of electron travel in gold is 4x10^-5 m/s

In other words, the speed of current in a wire is 0.0000000000001 x c.

Therefore, CATT IS WRONG.
And by extension YOUR STUPID ASS IS WRONG, TOO.

NOW FUCK OFF AND DIE.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:52 PM  

This now constitutes the 4th and 5th distinct and seperate refutation of Catt's idiocy.

Not 1
Not 2
Not 3
Not 4
5... FIVE SEPARATE WAYS in which I have refuted Catt's insane hypothesis.

It only takes ONE to refute something.

So, this constitutes 400% overkill.

As in, Nuking a grave-yard.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 1:52 PM  

I'm DONE with you.

Anonymous Forrest Bishop January 23, 2018 2:17 PM  

Beautiful.

Blogger RobertT January 23, 2018 2:59 PM  

How do we make enough noise to make a difference?

I notice when I stop following someone like Cernivoch or Milo on Twitter, it isn't long before they fall off the map entirely, in my world. They don't have enough oomph to keep their name in the MSM.
This is the order of things.
1-MSM
2-Trump tweets
3-Everything else
Vox is effective but doesn't have a wide enough reach.

Cernovich and others would do well to copy the format of Vox Popoli. Most of their blogs are a pain to read. Too wordy. Yadda, yadda. Vox hit upon the winning formula and no one is paying attention, to their detriment.

Blogger RobertT January 23, 2018 3:01 PM  

If I were Vox I would copyright or patent as much of his blog as possible. It has endured the test of time and Vox has resisted the urge to tweak it.

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 3:16 PM  

> If I were Vox I would copyright or patent as much of his blog as possible. It has endured the test of time and Vox has resisted the urge to tweak it.

Vox automatically has copyright on his posts to the blog, as do the commenters to their posts (with whatever qualifications Google/Blogger requires in their terms of service). He doesn't need to do anything.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 3:30 PM  

@RobertT

Copyright for any work exists from the moment of creation.

Putting a copyright notice on something is all that's needed for legal protection (you're warning anyone who sees/hears the work that it's yours, not public domain).

Anonymous ScarletNumber January 23, 2018 10:29 PM  

@16

Cassie is correct. Absent other evidence, silence is agreement.

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