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Friday, January 26, 2018

Sperg designs brave new world

Unsurprisingly, it fails to account for how normal human beings prefer to live their lives:
In 2008, I found myself speaking with the big boss himself, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg. I was in the second year of my Ph.D. research on Facebook at Curtin University. And I had questions.

Why did Facebook make everyone be the same for all of their contacts? Was Facebook going to add features that would make managing this easier?

To my surprise, Zuckerberg told me that he had designed the site to be that way on purpose. And, he added, it was "lying" to behave differently in different social situations.

Up until this point, I had assumed Facebook's socially awkward design was unintentional. It was simply the result of computer nerds designing for the rest of humanity, without realising it was not how people actually want to interact.

The realisation that Facebook's context collapse was intentional not only changed the whole direction of my research but provides the key to understanding why Facebook may not be so great for your mental health.
The eventual collapse of Facebook is going to be positively epic. The entire operation is simply another attempt to fit the square peg of human behavior into the round hole of Mark Zuckerberg's imaginary world.

The significance of this revelation, which is not exactly a surprise to those of us who have noticed Zuckerberg's bizarre behavior, is that Facebook is going to make increasingly bad decisions based on its inherently false assumptions about people.

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Blogger Nate73 January 26, 2018 1:09 PM  

Yeah I used to think that way. Not sure when I stopped thinking that way. I think the image people get here is Cathy Newman from the JBP interview, where he said she was polite and agreeable right before the interview and suddenly switched to what we saw on channel 4. As JBP asked, which is the real Cathy Newman? So there is a level of persona ("mask") wearing that goes on in our species. But then there's things like the distinction between public and private spheres of activity, and autists and spergs have trouble with that and other subtle distinctions.

Anonymous mycale January 26, 2018 1:16 PM  

Interesting - I thought I was the sperg because I didn’t want to share the same things to my friends, coworkers, and relatives at the same time. I guess not. That’s why I can never really enjoy social media - I always end up posting the LCD of what I want to show to all people, which isn’t much.

Oddly enough, Google+‘s basic design accommodated this - you put people into different groups and could post and interact in those groups independently. I gusss the flaw was that people don’t actually sit down and sort out their relationships in this manner.

Blogger Nate January 26, 2018 1:18 PM  

notice how fast the "Zuck for Pres" train derailed? gee... I wonder why...

Anonymous Precious January 26, 2018 1:18 PM  

"Two-faced" that describes Zuck to a tee.

Vox, be sure to update your copyright on the blog to 2018.

Anonymous kfg January 26, 2018 1:21 PM  

Well, I guess it's time to cleanse them and engineer a new people.

Anonymous kfg January 26, 2018 1:24 PM  

The Zuckerbergian solution is obvious: engineer the people to suit Facebook.

Anonymous BBGKB January 26, 2018 1:25 PM  

Why are people asking CUCKBerg questions about facebook's design, did the brothers he stole it from tell him everything?

Related to spergs screwing things up:

Would be bad SciFy-Dystopian shitlibs put up space disco ball

"secretly launched Humanity Star, a satellite in the shape of a reflective sphere that effectively works as a disco ball and could at times become the brightest object in the night sky. The Humanity Star was launched as a way to unite all who see it under the night sky,"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/astronomers-really-hate-bright-disco-192852945.html

Blogger LES January 26, 2018 1:33 PM  

I use FB as my blog. Not because I have any following but because I want friends and family to know what I really think. Often in social situations I refrain from sharing my views with people I know disagree with me to be polite and also because I get challenged to prove my case. With FB I can link to the sources.

Anonymous Sam the Man January 26, 2018 1:36 PM  

Hmmm...Did Mark Z. really think that?

A moments thinking would disprove that proposition.

A man is at least a son, but can be a friend, husband and father. Same person, radically different external face shown depending on context.

Anonymous TroubleSpeak January 26, 2018 1:38 PM  

The tipping point for me was around the time when they acquired Instagram. Before then, the content on FB revolved around status updates, commenting and conversations on friends' walls. Today, a vast majority of the content is personal photos, while the rest is shared memes, articles and videos. Social interaction is mostly limited to "reactions" and emojis.

Status updates are such an afterthought now that they had to make a way to turn them into a picture with that stupid "background color" feature.

Try scrolling your news feed and see how many posts are not a photo or a video of some sort. That's all it is now. On top of that, I'd wager that all of the content I see on FB is either shared or produced by no more than 10% of my friends.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 26, 2018 1:53 PM  

OT. Can anyone point me in the direction of a Alt-Right/Hard Right Christian blog or source? Men of the West's site won't work for me, shows no content when I browse the archive.
I need a steady stream of sound Christian sources about immigration to counter the pro-DACA Christian wave that's our there thanks to the likes of Roy Moore and Christianity Today. Thanks in Advance.

Anonymous NZT January 26, 2018 1:56 PM  

Jordan Peterson and others have talked about studies definitively showing that these one-to-many (i.e. you post a selfie and see how many hundreds of 'likes' you get) networks are terrible for kids psychologically, especially for girls. It makes them exhibitionist, paranoid, neurotic and anxious. It's easy to see why, too, but it's also painfully, PAINFULLY obvious that Facebook (like Apple with its iPhones) is intentionally trying to addict people to its product by appealing to their worst natures.

Anonymous VFM #6306 January 26, 2018 1:57 PM  

"Alexa, unfriend Facebook."

"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that..."

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. January 26, 2018 1:57 PM  

To my surprise, Zuckerberg told me that he had designed the site to be that way on purpose. And, he added, it was "lying" to behave differently in different social situations.

Makes sense. Zuckerberg strikes me as the quintessential, linear-thinking, psychically incomplete Last Man.

"Boring", in my wife's nomenclature.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab January 26, 2018 2:08 PM  

He's a boring lex Luthor

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 2:09 PM  

What the heck is a "context collapse?"

Oh wait, PhD research, it's academese. I'm going to imagine contexts collapsing in upon eachother. Which is probably the most difficult way to think about it. Wouldn't it be easier to come at it the other way, as in Facebook pretends there's only one context?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 26, 2018 2:14 PM  

With very few exceptions my FB friends have been limited to family or people I have actually met and had a conversation with away from online media. I regret most of the exceptions.

That's why I didn't seek out any Ilk to friend on FB when some of them were active there. As far as I know any of you could be troll-bots or middle aged neck beards frantically typing in front of a glowing screen in your underwear in a cold damp basement somewhere.

Missed the opportunities to participate in any ilk-meetups.

FB played a significant role in my wife bailing on me.

Blogger RobertT January 26, 2018 2:15 PM  

I just got an email & article from a Silicon Valley semi-bigwig voicing similar concerns about Facebook, but not Google ... regarding Google he said ... "I think only partially that way about google because it is so diverse and has a lot of facets, facebook a lot more so to my point...

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/george-soros-says-facebook-googles-days-numbered-232153289.html

Anonymous WobblyBob January 26, 2018 2:16 PM  

Faceberg, an attempt at social engineering?
What a surprise... oh, wait, not a surprise.
I guess not everybody thinks the "right way."

Anonymous The Original Arrogant Steelers Fan January 26, 2018 2:25 PM  

Damn. And here I'd always figured that Facebook's lousy design was a product of "good enough for government" covert CIA work.

Who knew???!!!

Blogger PoseidonAwoke January 26, 2018 2:25 PM  

I think Reddit makes the one-to-many relationship even worse than FB. In FB you can limit who sees your posts by posting to Everyone, or Friends, or a specific group. On Reddit basically of your posts are viewable by Everyone. This makes it impossible to join new groups or start new conversations. I found out that when I posted in a group on Reddit, if someone didn't like what I said, then the first thing they would do is go look at my comment history and find something they didn't like and immediately begin the discredit and disqualify routine using that past conversation. It's like when you do something wrong at home and your wife brings up something you did 10 years ago. There's simply no way to start fresh. I'm no longer interested in Reddit because the 1-to-Everyone relationship is perfect for creating echo chambers. On Reddit now some Admins will boot you from groups if they see that you have posted in a wrongthink subreddit. It makes the Alt-Right trolling tactic very difficult and leads to ideologically segregated echo chambers. I'm guessing that this is exactly what our Techno-Overlords want and I'm surprised that FB gives us that much cover, it's a much better platform for trolling and meme-injection tactics.

Anonymous kfg January 26, 2018 2:28 PM  

"A man is at least a son, but can be a friend, husband and father. Same person, radically different external face shown depending on context."

And that's just wrong.

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 2:29 PM  

Isn't it still possible Facebook's "autism" is intentional, despite the Zuck? Who could be lying himself, by the way, or simply telling a tale. But even if he weren't, I somehow doubt he's enough of a guru to bulldoze people into accepting Facebook exactly as he wants it, damn the consequences.

For one thing, making online interactions more like real-world interaction is hard, and requires more work. Work which maybe they don't feel offers enough reward, in the absence of a competitor breathing down their neck.

More importantly, what is the point of Facebook?As a businesses, I mean. They want people to use it, then what? Ultimately, they're keeping track of users, and down the road someone wants to use information collected about them to sell things and/or persuade people. That's easier when users present one persona and tell the truth, isn't it?

Which is not to say Zuck is being crafty beyond his personal awkwardness and strange beliefs about humans (possibly downloaded onto the chip in his brain by Illuminati overlords). Maybe he was picked to be our country's Social Media Tycoon because he was naturally attuned to exactly what advertisers and politicians alike need out of social media.

Based, of course, on the fact that people spontaneously started getting addicted to his site. But the jump from a genuinely catchy thing to THE thing in its field, I don't think that's an accident in his case.

Anonymous Stickwick January 26, 2018 2:31 PM  

Criminy on toast. I may be an aspie, but even I know that context is everything.

I deleted my FB account last year, in no small part because it was a constant struggle to manage who saw what. What I want to share with my close college friends is almost never what I want to share with my elderly relatives or esteemed colleagues.

Even worse was seeing the smoking ruins of formerly close family ties, friendships, and collegial professional relationships of those I was connected to. The low point was watching an older friend spiral into a depression after her compulsive political rants leading up to the election alienated every one of her family and friends. There's only so much train-wreck you can observe before it gets to you.

An online social network sounds great on paper -- keep up with family and friends who are far away, share pictures and personal news, etc. -- but you gotta judge a tree by its fruits, and the fruits are pretty rotten.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 26, 2018 2:39 PM  

@3 Nate

We murdered him with RoboZuck. The Left can't meme, but the chans murdered Zuck's political ambitions in about 3 weeks. They did more damage to his public image in a couple of weeks than the entire tech community was able to do to Bill Gates in a couple of decades. You just can't recover the moment it's obvious you aren't normal to people.

Also, he married up, and they keep posting photos that make his wife look ugly. He's like a ball of Autism & theft that decided it needed to install a program called "A Family". It all just looks so wrong. You can almost see his expression of "this is how humans act, right?". If someone made an argument he was a lizard, I'd entertain it.

That's where his political aspirations went, though they clearly existed before Trump ran. I wonder if Elon Musk's warnings about Killer AI is actually targeted at ZuckBot. I wouldn't put it past him.

Blogger tublecane January 26, 2018 2:41 PM  

@11-I can see that, though I have to put myself out of my experience a bit. Take "cyberbullying," please. Whenever anyone talks about it, I think back to my junior high days, and think. "What's the big deal?" Because I wasn't bullied, really, unless you count one guy who physically assaulted me a couple of times, and once publicly humiliated me. I got into a few physical altercations with other people, too, and I'd much prefer a gaggle of geese calling me "fat slut" online.

But that's my male brain for you. I immediately recall physical experiences, and discount the high-stakes social war going on amongst girls 24/7. If I get in a fight, people may make fun of me for the rest of my school career, but the right won't last beyond a couple minutes. Girls can be hounded all day, all night by packs of feral backbiters.

I have been humiliated, a bit, online, but I get over it. Certainly doesn't mean as much as real life. But to the female brain, I'm not sure there's a distinction. I can see how they could easily be traumatized.

Anonymous CPEG January 26, 2018 2:44 PM  

"You just can't recover the moment it's obvious you aren't normal to people."

Don't remind me. You remember that video of his speech where he was asking "Why can't we have..." and then listing a bunch of nice Utopian things? I don't remember what fantasies he was promising. I remember the facial expressions he was making, and the intense disgust it provoked.

The insanity that causes that face, is the same insanity that causes those Utopian delusions.

Blogger RB January 26, 2018 2:47 PM  

"FB played a significant role in my wife bailing on me."


Yep. Me too. FB is helping breed crap ideology and discontent into many women. Cheerfully aiding them in connecting with past lovers and new internet creepers looking for the emotionally vulnerable. It is a polluted swamp. I wonder if there have been any studies done on the percentage of marriages that are being significantly damaged in large part due to FB activity. It has to be a number that is growing quickly.. My account has been shut down for over a year, and I doubt I'll ever go back..

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 26, 2018 2:48 PM  

And, he added, it was "lying" to behave differently in different social situations.

Not unusual for a bright 13 year old boy to say that.

Blogger pyrrhus January 26, 2018 2:48 PM  

Zuckerberg aka The Alien who ate Silicon Valley...

Blogger Bruce Garrick January 26, 2018 2:54 PM  

This is very intriguing; to have a social site where you are in control of your 'mask'. You could have several that you use exclusively interacting with different types of people or individuals. You could have your business mask. And you could have a more anonymous mask to use with hostiles. You assign each of your contacts a certain mask though which you would interact with them. So when posting you have to select which 'mask' will send it and only your contacts assigned to that mask (or masks) get to see this post... This is a fascinating idea.

Anonymous BBGKB January 26, 2018 2:57 PM  

Even braver new world TransAge

A 38-year-old man in Chicago is attempting to escape punishment for sexually assaulting three young girls by claiming he's a "9-year-old trapped in an adult's body."

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=57876

OT: Totally unrelated are people still getting spammed for using parenthesis?

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 26, 2018 2:59 PM  

Bruce @30 -- this was done. That's how Google+ works, pretty much. You group all your contacts into various "circles", and you can choose which circle to send various posts. It flopped.

Blogger Ceerilan January 26, 2018 3:03 PM  

I don't know who coined the term context collapse, but it's so unintuitive that I had to look it up. After that, I realized I've been holding my tongue on FB for years.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 26, 2018 3:08 PM  

". . . Facebook is going to make increasingly bad decisions based on its inherently false assumptions about people."

And some people, like Camestros Felapton, are going to make decisively bad decisions based on inherently false assumptions about Facebook.

Facebook does have a silver lining after all.

Anonymous VFM #7916 January 26, 2018 3:10 PM  

@16, @27

Just another reason to ban smartphones in your house. A tablet or desktop is bad enough, but at least it's not on you at all times.

Blogger VFM #7634 January 26, 2018 3:13 PM  

My personal rule is: if you wouldn't let the SJW version of 1984's Big Brother see it, don't put it on Faceborg.

Anonymous TroubleSpeak January 26, 2018 3:15 PM  

@10 Can anyone point me in the direction of a Alt-Right/Hard Right Christian blog or source?

https://damianmichael.com
http://faithandheritage.com
https://theconservativetreehouse.com

Anonymous GunShowTrash January 26, 2018 3:19 PM  

I think Zuck is given too much credit. Internet of Stasi Facebook may be, but what did the Stasi actually /do/ with that data? Not much.

Oppression still needs police and individual acquiescence.

I think of Facebook as a media channel, starring Me. It's more like Albert Brooks' mockumentary /Real Life/. Or more seriously, Bertrand Tavernier's /Death Watch/.

Instead of using Me to advertise, I'm pitched breakfast cereals, gun control, and IoT systems-on-a-chip.

To fight back: Memes and culture jamming. I'm enjoying the apocalypse; it's being peer-to-peer networked.

Blogger Geir Balderson January 26, 2018 3:34 PM  

I do not understand what this is all about as I have never been to Facebook and never will. Same goes for Twitter and all of the other social sites. Waste of time and it allows SJWs to become very wealthy.

Anonymous Jeff January 26, 2018 3:40 PM  

Facebook January 2019 out-of-the-money Put options ($150 strike) last traded at $5.55.

FYI

Blogger Crush Limbraw January 26, 2018 3:42 PM  

You can try my archive which I started almost 3 years ago - mostly to find stuff I had read but couldn't find again. Works for me - browse categories and is word searchable. The Home link explains my basic premise.
Good luck!

Anonymous Rocklea January 26, 2018 3:47 PM  

2 billion people living an autistic dream. The ultimate OHP. And to think, some people believe stopping the free movement of people is going to be enough.

Blogger Cassandros the Elder January 26, 2018 3:59 PM  

@32 That's how Google+ works, pretty much. You group all your contacts into various "circles", and you can choose which circle to send various posts. It flopped.

Emailing lists still work for me. Of course I can't control someone forwarding my latest thoughts to wrong folk.

Blogger tuberman January 26, 2018 4:04 PM  

Anybody here bother to look into Zuck's wife, allegedly much there.

Blogger Sheila4g January 26, 2018 4:06 PM  

@10 and re response @37: For specifically Christian doctrine and arguments against immigration and the blending of peoples and societies, I'd avoid Conservative Treehouse. Get a churchian vibe there quite often and, back when I commented there during the presidential campaign, frequently had comments removed (haven't been back there in months). Faith and heritage is, by contrast, an explicitly ethnonationalist page endorsing the same, also termed "kinism," from a protestant Christian perspective.

Blogger pyrrhus January 26, 2018 4:11 PM  

O/T Every single time...Israeli First neocon Bill Kristol again, attacking Tucker Carlson for ethno-nationalism...http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/370646-bill-kristol-tucker-carlsons-show-is-close-now-to-racism

Anonymous Jack Amok January 26, 2018 4:16 PM  

I live in a rural town of under 10k people. There are at least 5 FB discussion groups and 3 buy/sell/trade groups for the town (these are all general purpose, I'm not counting the special purpose boards like the Homeseteaders or the Tech Geek trading board). The boards keep fracturing because people (almost always women) get in fights and start banning each other, then the friends get involved and the various cliques start banning each other, then the Gammas and White Knights show up, then someone starts a new board "with none of that heavy handed admin stuff Suzanne does on the other board."

It's hilarious to watch, and useful reinforcement for my wife. I actually find her being on FB to be protection against the Feminist Imperative. She has steadily winnowed her friends (the real life ones that she interacts with in person) down to the ones who do not spout idiocy on FB. Several women who used to be in her social circle now no longer are because - although they were generally pleasant and agreeable in person - let their shrew flag fly on FB.

I suspect FB is like cocaine. It intensifies your personality when you're on it.

Blogger Timmy3 January 26, 2018 4:21 PM  

That’s why I use it for only one reason, but it still doesn’t work well to keep you in touch with friends since it censors your opinions and friends feeds are increasingly not directed to you.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 26, 2018 4:37 PM  

"Zuckerberg's bizarre behavior"

Faceborg!


That being said, "people behaving differently in different social situations are lying"?

....

So, what he's saying is, people responding to stimuli are lying?

Perhaps "Zomberg" would be more appropriate...

Blogger bob kek mando January 26, 2018 4:47 PM  

Zuckersperg.

Anonymous Jo January 26, 2018 5:15 PM  

Google+ was a nonstarter, yes, and I think that's because of three reasons:

1. people have this natural feeling that Google's already too big. I don't think folks want it growing into Facebook territory,

2. the layout didn't work well. I don't think folks are looking for a personal feeling in social media. They're looking for a sense of connection. Making it too personal makes it seem less like an outlet to the outside world and more a diary or a personal masturbatory painting. In other words, inappropriate for a persona, yes persona, that's meant to interact with the world. (People aren't on Facebook to be themselves. They're on Facebook to present a version of themselves.)

3. so many folks are already entrenched in Facebook. Social media only works if it's social, meaning there have to be people around to be social with. Let's face it. Facebook is free. People are there. Something else is either going to have be amazingly better or Facebook is going to have to get a heck of a lot worse.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton January 26, 2018 6:29 PM  

When I first heard of social network media, instantly I thought of a middle-school playground at recess with bullies having carte blanche. The name, "Facebook," suggested to me one of those police mug books, to show to a crime victim in the hope the vic can identify the perp who did the dirty deed.

Anonymous Laz January 26, 2018 7:35 PM  

I don't hold my tongue on FB anymore. Of course, it helps that I'm not going to be fired for my politics. SJWAL, SJWADD and this blog have shown me what to look for and how to counteract it. The more you call out the SJW's on FB the more people respond positively. The real bonus is that the idiots I call out won't talk to me in real life.

Blogger Dire Badger January 26, 2018 8:05 PM  

You know, because some raghead named محمد acting like a 'nice guy' on facebook means of COURSE he will be a 'real' American if we move him over here and put him on welfare!

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 26, 2018 8:15 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Also, he married up, and they keep posting photos that make his wife look ugly. He's like a ball of Autism & theft that decided it needed to install a program called "A Family". It all just looks so wrong. You can almost see his expression of "this is how humans act, right?". If someone made an argument he was a lizard, I'd entertain it.

You could be talking about Calgary Cruz. I get that robot/lizard vibe from him.

Blogger S1AL January 26, 2018 8:30 PM  

Re: Cruz

The joke had been made that he wouldn't mind seeing Zuckerberg in Washington because at least someone would finally be weirder than him.

Blogger Dexter January 26, 2018 8:54 PM  

In my brief FB experience I suffered constant stress from having to restrain myself from responding to the deeply stupid opinions of my relatives FB friends.

Blogger cmbaileytstc January 26, 2018 9:32 PM  

Hmmm...okay, maybe I’m an Aspie myself but I myself want no contact with someone willing to drop me based on my Right wing views, and tbh I’ve hit the “unfriend” button myself over some Trump-is-Hitler BS. To me, after the 2016 s again political alignment is now literally denoting who still has a soul.

Blogger Koanic January 27, 2018 2:45 AM  

Facebook users, or as Zuckersperg calls them, "Dumb f*cks."

Anonymous lurker January 27, 2018 3:57 AM  

"I live in a rural town of under 10k people."

Liberal hicks... heh

Anonymous Icicle January 27, 2018 5:01 AM  

More like Zuckerfish. When does he spawn?

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 5:35 AM  

"With very few exceptions my FB friends have been limited to family or people I have actually met and had a conversation with away from online media. I regret most of the exceptions."

Yeah, my FB friends list is basically:

People I went to high school with.
A very few people who I went to elementary school/junior high with (moved from one city to another in 8th grade)
A few people who I went to college with
The guys I deployed to Iraq with
A few other people from the military
family members

Not one is a person who I have never met face-to-face.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 27, 2018 5:36 AM  

Was your friend a Clinton supporter? Just wondering.

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 5:43 AM  

Based, of course, on the fact that people spontaneously started getting addicted to his site. But the jump from a genuinely catchy thing to THE thing in its field, I don't think that's an accident in his case."

Well, that's primarily because MySpace destroyed itself to catering primarily to the wants and desires of 13-year old girls, by allowing a user to over-customize her page (auto-playing obnoxiously annoying music at loud volumes and ever-more-complicated animations) to the point of torturing anyone who visits with 1: increasingly annoying page-load times accompanied by 2: annoyingly loud sound coming out of your speakers

Tom dun f*d up.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd January 27, 2018 5:44 AM  

It absolutely isn't worth it.
It's too tempting to explode and rant, even though you're putting your livelihood in danger by doing so.
Better to just deactivate the thing.

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 5:52 AM  

@31

"This is very intriguing; to have a social site where you are in control of your 'mask'. You could have several that you use exclusively interacting with different types of people or individuals. You could have your business mask. And you could have a more anonymous mask to use with hostiles. You assign each of your contacts a certain mask though which you would interact with them. So when posting you have to select which 'mask' will send it and only your contacts assigned to that mask (or masks) get to see this post... This is a fascinating idea."

That is actually AWESOME.

I get on FB about once a month, and primarily only to read recent traffic on "Once a Hooligan, always a Hooligan" (My unit's call sign in Iraq was Hooligan.), and on certain years, for info about HS class reunions. My "openness" on FB is restricted to inside the (closed membership) Hooligan group. There's NOTHING in my life that I would literally want EVERYONE to know. Now, if a certain idea turns into a patent and a business...
*that* I might share with everyone. But I doubt most people would care.

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 5:54 AM  

@35

"Camestros Felapton"

I believe you misspelled "Cameltoe Fapatron"

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 5:55 AM  

"My personal rule is: if you wouldn't let the SJW version of 1984's Big Brother see it, don't put it on Faceborg."

Uh, 1984's Big Brother isn't SJW????

Blogger Akulkis January 27, 2018 6:01 AM  

@39

"I think Zuck is given too much credit. Internet of Stasi Facebook may be, but what did the Stasi actually /do/ with that data? Not much."

The power of the Stasi was NOT in that they had more data coming in from more informants (reportedly 10% of the population was bullied into becoming informants in exchange for having [mostly thought-crime] charges against them dropped" then that they could ever possibly process and analyze.

No, the power of the Stasi was that if the power of the Stasi analytical process was suddenly focused on you, your future could be destroyed in a matter of weeks. And by destroyed, I mean no future other than serving as bacteria/mold food.

Blogger wreckage January 27, 2018 6:45 AM  

I am sure I speak for all autistics when I say we'd rather not be associated with that Zuckerberg weirdo. He gives me the creeps.

FB's context-flatness is a great opportunity for meme-ing, though.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 27, 2018 7:06 AM  

Nate73 @1: "So there is a level of persona ('mask') wearing that goes on in our species ..."

There are two words in Japanese that describe this phenomenon: honne (本音) and tatamae (建前) refer to "true intentions" and "public face" respectively.

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 27, 2018 7:12 AM  

kfg @6: "The Zuckerbergian solution is obvious: engineer the people to suit Facebook."

But Luger pistol is perfect design achievement, and idiot engineers screwed up its holster!

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 27, 2018 7:24 AM  

Stickwick wrote:An online social network sounds great on paper -- keep up with family and friends who are far away, share pictures and personal news, etc. -- but you gotta judge a tree by its fruits, and the fruits are pretty rotten.

This is a great summation.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 27, 2018 7:32 AM  

I hadn't thought about it a lot, as I'm male and don't do much social media at all (almost none, really). But it occurs to me that these social media are particularly poisonous to women.

The increased opportunity to engage in social conflict, and be targeted with same, has the potential to really cause a lot of harm.

I'm glad it didn't exist when my wife was in her 20s-30s. She had enough social drama then, and was hurt quite badly by a nasty friend/neighbor (a real snake that initially appeared quite affable, of course) that really left scars.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 27, 2018 7:43 AM  

Dexter wrote:In my brief FB experience I suffered constant stress from having to restrain myself from responding to the deeply stupid opinions of my relatives FB friends.

Yep, me too. In my very brief time of actually engaging with FB I experienced exactly that. It's either suffer the idiocy and bite my tongue constantly, or engage and enter a totally useless and destructive "debate."

Anonymous Post Alley Crackpot January 27, 2018 7:59 AM  

BBGKB @7:

The satellite tracking data at N2YO indicates that it's going to take at least a month for the Kiwi Idiots Disco Sphere to start being visible from the US East Coast, but when it finally does arrive ...

I wonder if your NORAD people have any plans for shooting this idiotic thing down, and if they do, many thanks to them in advance.

They should send the bill to the New Zealand government.

Anonymous Ghost Who Walks January 27, 2018 8:10 AM  

I do the same and have learned that literally all of my relatives and most of my friends are cultural communist SJWs. So, yes, Facebook can serve a useful purpose.

Anonymous Tars Tarkas January 27, 2018 11:41 AM  

I know many, many people, particularly women, who get into endless spats with real life friends due to FB. I myself got very badly burned early on by FB and deleted my account and blocked the domain from my PC.

It's kind of funny to see person after person after person get into some sort of trouble because of either FB or Twitter.

Another thing that always bothered me about these sites is that the users aren't the customers, they are the product that is being sold. They tend to treat you as such.

OpenID paulmurray January 28, 2018 12:11 AM  

The billionaire who launched that satellite was motivated by the same thing as motivates an arsonist. To look at the conflagration, the fire trucks, the devastation, and think: "I did this. All this. I did this. It was me."

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