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Tuesday, January 23, 2018

The "secret society"

Seditious parties in the FBI may be hiding text messages, but they won't be able to keep the FISA memo under wraps:
There is serious talk on Capitol Hill about the appointment of a second special counsel amid several new bombshell revelations swirling around the Trump/Russia probe. First, there are the allegations of shocking and substantial government surveillance abuses under President Obama outlined in the FISA abuse memo. Secondly, the FBI lost five months of key text messages between the anti-Trump/pro-Clinton FBI officials Peter Strzok and his mistress Lisa Page. And now there's talk of a "secret society" of officials within the FBI that apparently met the day after the election of Donald J. Trump to plot against the president-elect....

According to Fox News, Nunes, Gowdy and Goodlatte are in the process of going through the steps necessary to release the four-page FISA memo and intend to see it released to the public by early February.

The FBI has demanded to see a copy of the memo, but so far -- understandably --  the Intelligence Committee has declined to show them their hand. Republicans believe that publishing the memo will but pressure on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to appoint a second special counsel, Fox News reported.

Reps Gowdy and Ratcliffe (R-TX) were on Fox News' "The Story with Martha MacCallum" Monday night to talk about the latest developments.

Rep. Ratcliffe said that former FBI director James Comey needs to come back to Capitol Hill to testify again under oath on the question of when the decision to exonerate former secretary of State Hillary Clinton was made. The latest batch of text messages between Strzok and Page suggests that Comey was coordinating with Attorney General Lynch on the decision well ahead of his July 5 press conference.

"It's really clear to me that the decision was made in May of 2016 -- two months before the press conference," Gowdy said. "Of course Loretta Lynch knew he wasn't going to be charged. Everyone except the public knew that she was not going to be charged."

"We knew that Strzok and Page had an intense anti-Trump bias and that's okay so long as they check it at the door and do their job," Ratcliffe said. "But we learned today in the thousands of text messages that we reviewed that perhaps they may not have done that."

Ratcliffe went on to mention one particular text message that referenced a "secret society" at the Bureau. "We know about this insurance policy that was referenced in trying to prevent Donald Trump from becoming president," he began. "We learned today about information in the immediate aftermath of his election that there may have been a 'secret society' of folks within the Department of Justice and the FBI to include Page and Strzok that would be working against him."
This goes well beyond basic criminality. We're getting into serious sedition, high crimes, and treason territory here. And yes, this is definitely Storm-related. The FBI and NSA aren't "accidentally losing" hundreds of text messages and emails because nothing is at stake.

The Conservative Treehouse explains the strategy called "the Big Ugly", of which the aforementioned FISA memo is a key part of informing the public in a manner it can digest:
Nunes, Grassley and Goodlatte are working in concert, each with a specific attack strategy that targets the larger swamp defense. This week they began the three-pronged attack we call “THE BIG UGLY“.

The Big Ugly is the wrecking ball that will shatter the front line swamp defenses and allow the draining to begin. The plan for this strategy was developed almost a year ago after Nunes realized how the compartmented intelligence would be used to block sunlight.

ODNI Dan Coats, the man who declassified the original FISA court opinion, NSA Director Mike Rogers, CIA Director Mike Pompeo, FBI Director Christopher Wray, Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Inspector General Michael Horowitz and Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein have each played a significant role in preparing the landscape and armory for this conflict.

Congressional allies like Jim Jordan and Ron DeSantis will be working toward messaging and clearing the fog from the media.

It is not accidental that Ron DeSantis has asked Speaker Ryan to declassify everything…. only a week before Devin Nunes announces his request for the full house to see everything declassified and without redaction. These are Big Ugly cannon shots into the heart of deception.  The summary of the classified FISA-702 abuse, and the subsequent unmasking therein, lies at the heart of the strategy to use a four-page summary memo to inform the public of the historic issues.

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Blogger Shimshon January 23, 2018 5:05 AM  

Now, now, Vox. They didn't "accidentally" lose anything. They INADVERTENTLY lost data. Can't you tell the difference?! They followed processes and procedures exactly by the book. How could they know those processes and procedures were incompatible and/or incomplete. Just like they said. Poor guys. So sad. I shed a tear.

Blogger Shimshon January 23, 2018 5:11 AM  

A restatement of why Trump can't just declassify the memo, or do this or that. Because opposition, treasonous opposition, exists. Until they are taken down, they are exceedingly dangerous, and any move he takes is potentially subject to oversight, especially until their Deep State plant Special Prosecutor is dismissed. As absurd as it sounds, declassifying the memo on his own could indeed be construed as obstruction of justice by Mueller.

Remember, Watergate started on 6/17/72 and Nixon resigned over two years later, 8/9/74. Iran-Contra dragged on for years. So did Ken Starr. We are one year in to a far bigger scandal than any of those.

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 5:18 AM  

If this is what's being made public, how much worse is what's being kept under wraps.

Look, "insurance policy" when used by these people has one and only one meaning: There were plans to assassinate Trump if that proved necessary. Why those plans weren't carried out is anyone's guess. It's possible they were and were foiled in some way.

Blogger Artisanal Toad January 23, 2018 5:27 AM  

Qanon dropped a bomb about the memo last night caused a DDOS attack. It's rather interesting reading.

What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?

What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
What happens to the FBI?
What happens to the DOJ?
What happens to special counsel?
What happens in general?
Every FBI/DOJ prev case could be challenged.
Lawless.
Think logically.
We haven’t started the drops re: human trafficking / sacrifices [yet][worst].
Those [good] who know cannot sleep.
Those [good] who know cannot find peace.
Those [good] who know will not rest until those responsible are held accountable.
Nobody can possibly imagine the pure evil and corruption out there.
Those you trust are the most guilty of sin.
Who are we taught to trust?
If you are religious, PRAY.
60% must remain private [at least] - for humanity.
These people should be hanging.
Q

Anonymous Icicle January 23, 2018 5:30 AM  

What a bunch of nonsense. Secret societies don't exist. That's a conspiracy theory.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore January 23, 2018 5:34 AM  

@2 It's gonna take a "minute" for things to get within a lengthy distance of a conclusion. The investigations opened by Sessions appear to be very complex, a complexity deepened by an interrelation between them. Sessions only got started within the last year AND the people targeted are versed in the ways of counterintelligence.

RICO became law in 1973 (I think). It wasn't until the mid to late 80s that the upper echelons of the mob were completely dismantled. And before that program could be undertaken, they tested the tools provided by RICO on lesser mafioso, the Cleveland mob.

I would be completely amazed if a conclusion were reached within the next two or three years. At the same time though, there are "breadcrumbs" out there that exist in the form of primary resources (actual documents from the DOJ and the Executive orders) and credible secondary resources. These things can allay the impatience for they do indicate meaningful movement.

The good news is that you'll have more time to indulge in a popcorn gluttony. I'm experimenting with sriracha, bacon grease, and Parmesan.

Blogger The Kurgan January 23, 2018 5:46 AM  

You know.... this is all well and good.... but honestly, I truly wish it could be better resolved in a fashion I would very much prefer.
Involving some war paint and a very sturdy tomahawk.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 6:02 AM  

> I truly wish it could be better resolved in a fashion I would very much prefer. Involving some war paint and a very sturdy tomahawk.

Nothing's stopping you from coloring yourself negro and finding a leftist from behind in the dark, except your concern for fighting Communism and race war according to the Marquis of Queensbury rules of etiquette and gentlemanly behavior.

Blogger Eric Steiger January 23, 2018 6:05 AM  

@6 along with poisoned wells and salted earth.

Anonymous Man of the Atom January 23, 2018 6:18 AM  

FBI: The *MASTERS* of Forensic Science.

"Uh, my dog at my homework. Sorry."

Blogger TheMaleRei January 23, 2018 6:18 AM  

@6 & @8... Impalement and scourging.

Blogger Brett baker January 23, 2018 6:20 AM  

Time to prepare to blast Wagner at maximum decibels?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 6:23 AM  

"They followed (Bleach Bit) processes and procedures exactly by the book."

FTFY.

"Secret societies don't exist."

Illicit sex is technically secret socialization, and therefore the involved are technically a secret society. *Mindsplosion*

I'll take you at your word that they're all conspiracy theories though ;|. I guess this means we need to dig into all the other things called conspiracy theories now, because apparently some of them are real things.

"how much worse is what's being kept under wraps"

Are you kept up on your prayer and fasting? I certainly am not.

"I truly wish it could be better resolved in a fashion I would very much prefer.
Involving some war paint and a very sturdy tomahawk."


I vote nine-foot sharpened wooden poles and horse teams.

"Nothing's stopping you from coloring yourself negro and finding a leftist from behind in the dark, except your concern for fighting Communism and race war according to the Marquis of Queensbury rules of etiquette and gentlemanly behavior."

That and the conception that maybe just maybe some of them can be saved. When that hope dies, we'll be seeing a lot of so-called people disappearing.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 6:26 AM  

By "run you" we mean like a flag, and by "out of town on a splintery rail" we mean like a shish-kebab.

Anonymous CloseHauled January 23, 2018 6:47 AM  

Well, if Q Team is to be believed, the texts discussed assassination.

If FBI agents did discuss that, they would go to any length to delete those texts.

Partial Q drop from yesterday:
"What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
What happens to the FBI?
What happens to the DOJ?
What happens to special counsel?
What happens in general?
Every FBI/DOJ prev case could be challenged.
...
"

Anonymous Icicle January 23, 2018 6:48 AM  

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+5%3A1-4&version=NKJV

Anonymous ZhukovG January 23, 2018 6:50 AM  

The game is afoot.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 6:59 AM  

> That and the conception that maybe just maybe some of them can be saved.

Fear in the dark saves more men than preaching.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 6:59 AM  

Well, if Q Team is to be believed, the texts discussed assassination.

I find that hard to believe because FBI agents would know better than to leave a digital trail. Difficult, but not impossible. Maybe they are just that arrogant. After all, we do know that they did leave a digital trail concerning other matters. I'm thinking perhaps "joking" references to assassination that, if revealed, would be devastating. A lot of the people in charge seem to be child-like in their thinking. They got where they are because of their adherence to the ruling ideology and willingness to obey, not because of their scintillating intellect. Not that there couldn't be plot, but I'm thinking serious plotters are not texting each other about it.

Anonymous JAG January 23, 2018 7:01 AM  

Ron Winkleheimer wrote:Well, if Q Team is to be believed, the texts discussed assassination.

I find that hard to believe because FBI agents would know better than to leave a digital trail. Difficult, but not impossible. Maybe they are just that arrogant. After all, we do know that they did leave a digital trail concerning other matters. I'm thinking perhaps "joking" references to assassination that if revealed would be devastating. A lot of the people in charge seem to be child-like in their thinking. They got were they are because of there adherence to the ruling ideology and willingness to obey, not because of their scintillating intellect. Not that there couldn't be plot, but I'm thinking serious plotters are not texting each other about it.


They all thought Hillary was going to win. They thought they had the game sufficiently rigged. Intelligent psychopaths often bring about their own downfall due to the arrogance that they are far too smart to get caught.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. January 23, 2018 7:08 AM  

I find that hard to believe

You've been drunk before, right? Now imagine being stinking drunk with power.

What need have you for tact?

Blogger Shimshon January 23, 2018 7:17 AM  

@18 Ron, they openly talked about an insurance policy and how to coordinate their statements regarding their communications. It's not that they're stupid. They're supremely arrogant, and believed, first, that they wouldn't be caught, and second, they could evade trouble if it got a little hot. Third, they didn't expect it to get scalding hot.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 7:20 AM  

Intelligent psychopaths often bring about their own downfall due to the arrogance that they are far too smart to get caught.

I seriously don't believe that the people at that level are all that intelligent. They work for people that are intelligent, but they are just the kind of go along to get along bureaucrat that you see in every organization. Their masters' are probably livid with them. If these guys are representative of the caliber of the opposition it is no wonder that TGE is kicking their asses. In addition, its further proof that the GOPe was not really in opposition to the Democrat party at all. Not that we needed any more.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 23, 2018 7:23 AM  

Pride goes before a fall, and these people were full of themselves. After all they had captured the top echelons of the FBI and DOJ as well as other areas. They were masters of the universe.

The people behind Q are running a psyop to prepare people for the full horror of what will eventually be released in stages. I just clued my wife in over the weekend and she commented that older generations will really have trouble absorbing this (we're boomers btw). It's way freaking out there. This story is what would come from putting Robert Ludlum and Lovecraft in a blender.

The psyop on us is to prepare the normies for the truth.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 7:23 AM  

they openly talked about an insurance policy and how to coordinate their statements regarding their communications.

Which is why I don't find it impossible to believe. I have said it before, its bad enough to be under the thumb of evil overlords, but its down right humiliating to be under the thumbs of such inept evil overlords.

Blogger Marsh 01701 January 23, 2018 7:24 AM  

Hard to believe anyone is that arrogant and sure of winning. The last few comments make me think of of magical thinking, what else can explain this idiocy...Insanity? Evil? Geesh.

Anonymous Looking Glass January 23, 2018 7:41 AM  

@18 Ron Winkleheimer
@19 JAG

They were calling Hillary's Email case the "MYE" or "Mid-Year Exam", specifically to avoid keyword searches. There have been several teams sorting through all of their communications for months, so it's very possible that they found some oblique references and were able to work them back. Q mentioned contacts with foreign actors, so the actual most likely scenario is it got picked up there when someone was searching for targets. This was separate from the FBI/DOJ stuff.

The thing I really want to know is if SCOTUS can change a vote on a previous case because of extenuating circumstances. The Podesta emails had oblique references to what happened with Chief Justice Roberts by the Obama Admin over the King Case. (That'd be the big ObamaCare one that Roberts had to invent a solution to.) Q pointed to Scalia being assassinated as well, which isn't too shocking. That strange set of emails to Podesta was really out there.


@22 Ron Winkleheimer

The real top-tier players are smart, but they're also surrounded by people with only specific skill sets and not general competence. They never really considered that Hillary would lose, but they also would do their basic due diligence to get back at Trump after the fact. (They'd have destroyed Trump with legal actions after the election, which was part of the reason you knew he was serious.)

Though drinking the koolaid was pretty much required around DC. From June 2016 on, it was pretty clear Trump had a solid lead if you re-skewed the polling properly. Only place it took a hit was the Tape, but they dropped that too early. It wasn't a walk-off, but if it wasn't for the wall-to-wall Gaslighting by the media, it was probably a 50-45 race at the end.

Blogger Longtime Lurker January 23, 2018 7:45 AM  

If this mess is as bad as speculated, then the passports of certain VIPs will need to be confiscated to prevent flight from justice.

And Bob Comey, that fake J Edgar wannabe, is going to be put on suicide watch before all is said and done.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 7:50 AM  

They'd have destroyed Trump with legal actions after the election, which was part of the reason you knew he was serious.)

Agreed. Anyone who believes that Trump wasn't in it to win is too stupid to be allowed out of the house without a keeper. An example was going to be set so that nobody would think of challenging the status quo again. As for the meme being pushed that Trump had no chance to win, it was an attempt to suppress Trump voter turnout. The polls were mostly in the margin of error, but Trump was filling up stadiums and had overflow crowds, all enthusiastic supporters who would wait for hours in freezing cold weather and face violence from Democrat thugs who were out there trying to discourage people from attending the rallies. Meanwhile, Hillary couldn't fill up a quarter of a high school gym's seats.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 7:54 AM  

@Ron Winkleheimer

What statement does Q make, over and over again?

"THESE PEOPLE ARE STUPID!"

Blogger Jeff aka Orville January 23, 2018 7:54 AM  

They knew in the summer that the election was in doubt. Several of HRC's staff were pointing that out as well as Bill himself.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 7:57 AM  

And nothing is more stupid than overestimating your own level of invincibility.

As Dirty Harry said at the end of Magnum Force -- A man's gotta know his limitations.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III January 23, 2018 8:01 AM  

Obliquely related, an Anon basically predicted day and location of the Alaska earthquake on the 19th

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/157708807
http://archive.is/SycZR

Anonymous Patron January 23, 2018 8:01 AM  

OT, but it looks like someone's been reading the 16 Points:

"Alt Christianity - A New Christian Mindset" by Man of the West: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHyoaoqlgaw

Don't know if VD is aware of this channel or these 21 points, but worth checking out regardless.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 8:08 AM  

@Jeff aka Orville

This is Intelligence preparation of the Battlefield -- i.e getting the info out to the patriots 9n both the civilian world, and most especially, military officers. Officers are not sworn to obey (the office of) the President, only the officers appointed above themselves, and to protect the Constitution.

Enlisted are sworn to the Constitution, the officers appointed above them, and the President.

Getting this info out via informal channels helps unify the military (enlisted and officers) to be all in, without a doubt, to protect Trump from enemies. And if SF is called in to move on FBI and CIA, it's already been established that their targets fulfill the general rule of engagement "to protect the Constitution from ALL enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC."

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 8:10 AM  

@Marsh01701

Evil insanity.

Common for those under diabolical influence.

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 8:22 AM  

> I find that hard to believe because FBI agents would know better than to leave a digital trail.

These aren't the brightest bulbs on the tree.

> Maybe they are just that arrogant.

Remember Obama's "We are the ones we've been waiting for"? Arrogance has never been in short supply with these people. Not to mention they wouldn't know real security if it bit them.

> Their masters' are probably livid with them.

Well, that and in no need of Ex-lax at the moment.

Anonymous Philalethes January 23, 2018 8:22 AM  

Partial Q drop from yesterday:
"What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.


All I want is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help me God.

Of course, that's very unlikely, considering all the work our Betters are putting into "redacting" everything so as to spare the People's delicate sensibilities. They're Shocked, they tell us, Shocked. (Thus I already know — if I didn't before — that they're lying. I'm not shocked, only tired of it all. How can anybody actually live in that fetid, toxic cesspool?)

The only thing to be determined now is how much they can keep a lid on — how much (e.g. "pizza") will remain forever rumors.

Blogger APL January 23, 2018 8:26 AM  

"The FBI has demanded to see a copy of the memo"

Isn't that rather the tail wagging the dog? The FBI answers to POTUS, and is accountable to Congress. Does the FBI have any authority to demand anything at all from Congress?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2018 8:28 AM  

Philalethes wrote:The only thing to be determined now is how much they can keep a lid on — how much (e.g. "pizza") will remain forever rumors.

It's Gowdy, Nunes, et al. All GOPe. I expect much sound and fury, signifying a coverup. No doubt a few Dems and GOPe'ers will be thrown under the bus, but the Swamp will be preserved. These are Swamp Critters.

Anonymous Fran January 23, 2018 8:31 AM  

@38
I would have to think that since Congress is part of the checks and balances of our leadership and the FBI is a subordinate to that leadership, I think the FBI has no business whatsoever demanding anything from congress.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2018 8:32 AM  

APL wrote:Isn't that rather the tail wagging the dog? The FBI answers to POTUS, and is accountable to Congress. Does the FBI have any authority to demand anything at all from Congress?

They can do anything they are allowed to get away with. So far, Congress has pulled every punch, so I'm sure the feebs are quite confident.

Anonymous Uncle John's Band January 23, 2018 8:34 AM  

The brazenness must be partly because they have been doing this openly enough for ordinary people to figure out for generations. There have been guys in “tinfoil hats” spouting “conspiracy theories” for a long time. What’s changed is the ability of the internet to accumulate and present evidence that, due to it’s sheer weight, begins to open peoples’ eyes and build towards a critical mass. And this still takes time, as current events are showing, although the public was much more somnolent before the cultural madness and globomania peaked in the last decade.

The openness is stupid and arrogant, but it has also probably been business as usual for the Deep State. Why would they think about changing? They’ve always gotten their way in the end. Trump’s sheer singularity is evident in the fact that he won in the first place. They couldn’t stop him, and their machinations have never not worked before. They had no idea just how proficient at “winning” Trump really is. Their processes never developed any sort of defense against the onslaught he brings because “the Mule shows up” was never part of their strategic planning. Now that it is all being laid bare, their overreliance on nodes of institutional control is evident.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 8:58 AM  

Not to mention they wouldn't know real security if it bit them.

Considering the stuff that moles are able to get away with, sometimes for decades, not to mention feeble minded morons like Bradley Manning, I cannot dispute this. I've sometimes thought that the lack of security was deliberate, that the institutions themselves wanted to facilitate the espionage.

Blogger Robert Divinity January 23, 2018 9:02 AM  

The Ghost Dancing and continued belief in Rule of Law that flows through this comment thread is poignant but fanciful. These people will do anything and everything until they are incapacitated, and not one day sooner. People like Mueller, Comey and the like are immune to "laws" applied to everyone else.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 23, 2018 9:11 AM  

The FBI, whose officials refuse to answer a summons from Congress, are demanding that Congress do as the FBI tells them? Somebody's got their power relationships backwards

Whitey Whiteman III wrote:Obliquely related, an Anon basically predicted day and location of the Alaska earthquake on the 19th
Alaska is huge and prone to earthquakes. There were been 76 earthquakes above 4.5 magnitude in Alaska in December alone, that's 2.5 per day. Predicting a significant quake in Alaska in the next 3-5 days is like predicting rain in Seattle in January.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 9:13 AM  

"Fear in the dark saves more men than preaching.

Perhaps, yet the preaching saves some.

Blogger pyrrhus January 23, 2018 9:21 AM  

I don't understand why Trump doesn't declassify everything, or is he just waiting for maximum effect?

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 9:37 AM  

> Perhaps, yet the preaching saves some.

Phineas didn't get his priesthood for preaching. If you're a dhimmi, witness by how you take the whip. If you're not, witness by how you wield it.

Anonymous Grayman January 23, 2018 9:39 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:I don't understand why Trump doesn't declassify everything, or is he just waiting for maximum effect?

Info overload! The masses would simply shutdown and focus on the narrative handed to them by the MSM. While those on this blog may happily dive into the tsunami of filth such a "full frontal" would disclose, for the majority of the population it would simply trigger mass cognitive dissonance and a retreat to the main stream narrative.

As was pointed out earlier int he thread, battle field prep is necessary, you have to ease the masses into the filth. On top of that such a sudden move is much more likely to provoke outright aggression from those who have the most to lose. While we may not like the delay bull in a china shop approach isn't the best option with this magnitude of event.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 9:41 AM  

"Phineas didn't get his priesthood for preaching."

That the preaching isn't the only thing != it not being anything at all.

All things to all men so that by all means some might be saved.

Both the sword and the sanctuary have their proper uses and times.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 23, 2018 9:43 AM  

Reading at Instapundit a piece about DACA as bait for loony Dem fringe fish and the author mentioned the Gang of Cucks, I bet good money that the GoCs and the idiot boys from Utah are hip deep in this and they cannot afford to sound like the Daily Kos regulars.

Anyway it is a pretty good piece on strategy for Trumpenkrieg versus the swamp.

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 9:47 AM  

Lots of stuff going on, as the Bad Guys did not like that Q drop last night and started a major attack on chan.

Of course there are "Secret Societies," with most of them being allies in the NWO hierarchies. All sorts of signaling constantly goes on through various symbols, jewelry, hand and eye signals, and etc. It is "necessary" to fulfill occult rules.

A couple of major shocks on the political levels is that the UK, including the Queen's family is all in with the Globalists, and also the Vatican, and many churchian churches (beyond just convergence).

The indulgence in evil aspect will out many church organizations too, plus a vast array of educators, IMO. We already know most of Hollywood and TV icons will be exposed. The surprises there, may be who turn out to be against all this stuff.

Blogger wreckage January 23, 2018 9:48 AM  

Why keep notes? Because they were using the instruments of government to achieve their ends, and you can't do that invisibly.

Why will justice catch them up? Because self-interest rules all. Put twenty starving rats in a sack, and you DON'T get a band of organized rats working together for freedom.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky January 23, 2018 9:52 AM  

Again: Fire everybody at the FBI. Down the mailboys. Forbid them to ever work for government again, and from lobbying government. And start over.

1st task of the New FBI: Look into the Old FBI

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 9:52 AM  

> People like Mueller, Comey and the like are immune to "laws" applied to everyone else.

Oh, I think the law of conversation of momentum and Ohm's law still apply.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 23, 2018 9:57 AM  

Secret society probably means SJW virtue signaling one another trying to climb to the top of their hierarchy, yeah I can believe they discussed assasination, because their lunatic fringe thought and probably still thinks they election can be overturned and if Trump was removed then the sick old lady could assume the crown.

Scott Adams mentioned hallucinations, yep, and if you ask a SJW to explain in detail any positions you soon see the eye blinks and the stress build up.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 9:58 AM  

Officers are not sworn to obey (the office of) the President, only the officers appointed above themselves, and to protect the Constitution.

That is not true. When I was in the military police the orders were that, given a dispute, you always obeyed the highest ranking person in your chain of command, and the guy at the top was the president, the Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces. As best I can remember, his correctly stated rank in the chain of command.

As a practical matter, short of raising a rebellion, such disputes don't happen. And while you may swear to obey the Constitution, that would be treated as a rebellion by whatever officer you chose to ignore.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 10:02 AM  

> Both the sword and the sanctuary have their proper uses and times.

Which is why Solomon started with the executions and ended with the sermons.

Anonymous BBGKB January 23, 2018 10:03 AM  

"secret society" of officials within the FBI that apparently met the day after the election of Donald J. Trump to plot against the president

Lindsey Graham knows the secret handshake.

There were plans to assassinate Trump if that proved necessary. Why those plans weren't carried out is anyone's guess

TRUMP has been careful even before the election to avoid assassins,

wish it could be better resolved in a fashion I would very much prefer.Involving some war paint and a very sturdy tomahawk

Seriously no love for my proposed live game show. If completive garroting is out, I could do a version of "The Wall" "Plinko" with guillotined heads (._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l )

If this mess is as bad as speculated, then the passports of certain VIPs will need to be confiscated to prevent flight from justice.

Don't you mean Dual Passports?

OT: Talk about arrogance & stupidity combined. With financial advice from ____ you lose

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5284609/RBS-banker-told-staff-let-customers-hang-themselves.html

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 23, 2018 10:05 AM  

BOW TO LEPER MESSIAH

Anonymous Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass January 23, 2018 10:10 AM  

A friend of mine who is an FBI SA was quite ticked about Comey being fired. She forgets that they work for us and that the Director serves at the pleasure of POTUS. Knowing what we know now, why Trump didn't fire Comey on day one is beyond me.

Strzok and Page need to be let go. Schiff needs to stop running his mouth: claiming the average joe on the street wouldn't understand it and we'd have Russian bots galore. Oh noes! Even my gf who has minimal interest in politics told me to tell her once the memo is released.

Anonymous Tipsy January 23, 2018 10:13 AM  

Is it possible that Horowitz has the texts, but requested them anyway, just to see what the response would be. As a way of identifying the bad guys?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 10:15 AM  

"Solomon started with the executions and ended with the sermons"

And unless I'm sorely mistaking something, Christ said he was doing it rather the other way around. My point is that Solomon was called to start with the sword, and did so in the manner and to the extent that he was told. Not all are called to begin with the sword, although I would agree that many who are, do not.

No one left to sermonize if you start with the sword alone.

I agree that both reinforce each other. The presence of the sword drives home the seriousness of the sermon while the sermon conveys the legitimacy of the sword.

To put it another way, only the strong can afford merciful means. But what is strength, what is power? There are many forms, and the sword is only the last resort of them.

Anonymous Mike Rock January 23, 2018 10:18 AM  

The wordings of the current oath of enlistment and oath for commissioned officers are as follows:

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Blogger Robert Coble January 23, 2018 10:23 AM  

The rapid ascension of "the Mule" to power is an apt metaphor for President Trump. It was truly a Black Swan event, totally unpredictable by Herr Professor Seldon's psychohistory (i.e., the statistical polling processes employed to "control" the masses in more than just our elections). The Mule was "one of the greatest conquerors the galaxy has ever seen, he was a mentalic [genius] who had the ability to reach into the minds of others and "adjust" their emotions, individually or en masse, using this capability to conscript individuals to his cause." How descriptive of Trump!

However, recall that the "Deep State" (the Second Foundation) eventually manipulated critical players of the First Foundation back on to the path of the Seldon Plan, at considerable risk of exposure of their machinations for the "greater good" of the Empire, achieving a new global Empire in much shorter time than would otherwise require if events were not "directed." The mere acknowledgement of the existence of the Deep State (Second Foundation) threatens to totally abolish the Plan (the Narrative).

Their leader is none other than the greatest archangel of heaven, Lucifer, so do not dismiss too quickly all of his followers as mere arrogant midwits and nitwits.

Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the
very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and
who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or
which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against
the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his
own kingdom — Lucifer.


— SAUL ALINSKY

I am sure Lucifer is more aware than any human (from his own personal experience) of Emerson's advice to Oliver Wendell Holmes: "Holmes, when you strike at a king, you must kill him."

Recall that the Mule was sterile, hence his self-appellation. Trump is not, in the same sense, but may be in terms of producing a political successor with his "genes."

The iron must be struck while hot.

TURN UP THE HEAT ON THE FORGE OF GOD!

Anonymous Bellator Mortalis January 23, 2018 10:25 AM  

Prince Al Waleed bin Talal interesting facts:
(a) 2nd highest owner of Fox News
(b) major funding provider of Wahabbism
(c) owns the top floors of the Mandalay Bay hotel
(d) during the Paddock shooting in August, more than 100 members of the Saudi air force occupied those floors because they were participating in training exercise "Red Flag" at Nellis air force base
(e) currently in detention in SA and his assets are frozen and being confiscated

Foreign elements who were involved in assassination planning to take out the GE? Look at Prince Al Waleed bin Talal.

Blogger Last Redoubt January 23, 2018 10:32 AM  

The Dead Six universe was closer to our reality than I originally thought.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 10:37 AM  

> Christ said he was doing it rather the other way around.

And unless I am mistaking something, you are not facing whippings and execution for your creed, unlike Jesus and the apostles, which leaves the sword as the other way to distinguish yourself from the comfortably lukewarm. Nothing is more pathetic than air-conditioned Western "Christians" meekly virtue signaling as if they stood before an irate Nebuchadnezzar's barbecue.

Anonymous Avalanche January 23, 2018 10:44 AM  

@27 " the passports of certain VIPs will need to be confiscated to prevent flight from justice."

And does that not already tie in with weird, (40k-ft-high, i.e. unusually high) flights (without/with hidden) transponder codes to GITMO; 800 Arizona Nat Guard troops SENT to GITMO; multiple airport 'shut-downs' with, at least in ATL, a 'dangerous cargo' company's flight into and out of ATL DURING the "complete" shut-down; funny ankle bracelets appearing around; and so on?

That plane to Tokyo that turned back FOUR HOURS out over the Pacific?! (Four people were apparently 'pulled' according to gossip.)

It's extremely hard for NON-autistes to keep up (thank you to the heroes of the Chans!!); but bits and pieces make you go: "huh."


I always worry: are we just cats chasing a laser pointer? Pizzagate pulled SO much attention from the election: thankfully not enough to STOP the God Emperor from winning -- but a lot! And then it (seemed as if it) went dark, or partly dark, or mostly dark... but also the police and the FBI (!) were rounding up (low-level) pedos all over the country ... for a while...

Deep breath. Have faith in the God Emperor (and in the Hand of God, if you've got it!) and wait it out.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 10:50 AM  

"which leaves the sword as the other way to distinguish yourself from the comfortably lukewarm"

"Because you are not being violently subdued/persecuted, you must yourself either use violence or accomplish nothing."

This line of thought leaves something to be desired. Something like intelligence, and comprehension of what I've already replied to you with. Violence is not the only mode of power, it is not the only dynamic, it is not the only significant dynamic.

Beyond that, if you're so convinced of the worthiness of your "sword alone" methods, what are you doing to lead from the front? Yes, I'm calling you a hypocrite by your own argument if you aren't doing what you're preaching.

I, for my part, can and do exert force in those modes I think to be the most efficient and effective, those to which I am called.

Anonymous Avalanche January 23, 2018 11:00 AM  

@62 "There are many forms, and the sword is only the last resort of them."

Or, you you mean that YOU PREFER the sword be the last of them?!

If Solomon was told to BEGIN there, why do you say it's only ever the LAST resort?! Do not confuse your desire with "your" directions?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 11:05 AM  

"you mean that YOU PREFER the sword be the last of them?!"

I literally mean that it ought to be used only when no lesser means will suffice. Both for the sake of efficiency and for the sake of avoiding the collateral damage that tends to follow the sword. Don't be hysterical.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 11:06 AM  

"If Solomon was told to BEGIN there, why do you say it's only ever the LAST resort?"

If God tells you to do it, nothing less is going to work.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 11:07 AM  

> "Because you are not being violently subdued/persecuted, you must yourself either use violence or accomplish nothing."

Failing to paraphrase is a reliable indicator of verbal intelligence ceiling. But go ahead and share how many standard deviations you've got if you feel you can match my intelligence.

> comprehension of what I've already replied to you with

I comprehended, it bored, so I ignored.

> if you're so convinced of the worthiness of your "sword alone" methods,

Notice how you're putting quotes around something that I didn't say? That's dumb.

> what are you doing to lead from the front?

Yes, why did Moses bury the Egyptian? How come Gideon snuck around at night? Good question tactical genius. You can call me a hypocrite all you like. It isn't true in this regard, I don't care what you think, and it doesn't affect the truth or falsehood of my argument one iota either way.

Actually, why not give my opinion? I can do no worse than Paul advising everyone not to marry. I think modern warfare requires only a few at the tip of the spear, with the rest in support. But a man should prove to himself that he has the courage, if only for those sweet adrenaline-etched memories.

Anonymous Grayman January 23, 2018 11:18 AM  

@51 Tuberman

A couple of major shocks on the political levels is that the UK, including the Queen's family is all in with the Globalists, and also the Vatican, and many churchian churches (beyond just convergence).

Hasnt that been more or less common knowledge for a while even if only "conspiracy theory"?

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 11:22 AM  


Prince Al Waleed bin Talal interesting facts:
(a) 2nd highest owner of Fox News
(b) major funding provider of Wahabbism
(c) owns the top floors of the Mandalay Bay hotel
(d) during the Paddock shooting in August, more than 100 members of the Saudi air force occupied those floors because they were participating in training exercise "Red Flag" at Nellis air force base
(e) currently in detention in SA and his assets are frozen and being confiscated

And
(e) Las Vegas mass shooter Stephen Paddock committed suicide by shooting himself in the mouth.
(f) The new guy, Mohammed bin Salman, was in Vegas at the time.


If I could vent my conspiracy thinking because I think it highly probable:

The real target was Salman.

The shooting was to be a distraction for the press.

Paddock thought he was going to escape via the helicopter port on the roof. But it is Darwin Award territory to think you are going to live through a hi level assassination when somebody else sets it up.

Salman was pretending he might let Alwaleed go with a cash payment. He was always going down.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 11:29 AM  

"Failing to paraphrase"

Oh, by all means. Direct question, Koanic. How does your meaning significantly differ from my paraphrase?

"Notice how you're putting quotes around something that I didn't say? That's dumb."

Because everything in quotes is automatically about you. No, I intended it to be my colloquialized means of saying it, not yours. Hence, the dumb one jumping to conclusions here...

"why did Moses bury the Egyptian"

Because he became enraged and killed him, then he became afraid and hid him.

"You can call me a hypocrite all you like. It isn't true in this regard"

You're literally a hypocrite if you're not practicing what you preach. If you are practicing it, by all means, just say that you are, and I'll take your word for it. What you're saying sounds an awful lot to me like you thinking that you're a "planner" who has the divine mandate to lead all the "agents". If you genuinely believe that, what the f*** are you doing arguing with people on forums rather than gathering followers and building networks?

"I think modern warfare requires only a few at the tip of the spear, with the rest in support. But a man should prove to himself that he has the courage, if only for those sweet adrenaline-etched memories."

Support. And what does support entail? Among other things, does it entail preaching like you're doing to me? Do you see where this is going? You're literally preaching to me instead of applying the sword yourself.

Case closed, your actions indicate that you don't believe your own argument, and instead are actually following mine.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8xlu95u

See the fish, Koanic? What have you done for your God today? Be the fish, Koanic, put your money where your mouth is, or I'll just begin ignoring a lying hypocrite.

If you're going to egg a man to put himself on the line, at least have the decency to admit to him that you're doing it.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 23, 2018 11:32 AM  

I would be completely amazed if a conclusion were reached within the next two or three years.

Trump doesn't really have that long. Cuck Ryan and the Kentucky Undertaker are planning to throw the mid-terms to the D-jersey's (Clintons - Soros - Pedowood). There was already an outright theft (massive vote fraud) of a special election in AL - no resistance and a recent D-jersey flip of an R house seat in WI. Perhaps there is something in the works to demoralize the D-jerseys' Antifa-BLM base, but in light of the farcial sentences handed out by a sympathetic blackrobe in DC over antifa criminality a year ago, they're energized (as seen at Cernovich's event the other day). Yes, it takes that long to do a thorough investigation but of what use is it if the enemy takes congress and starts impeachment proceedings? Assuming all this is true, Trump et al will have to move fairly quickly with a massive strike to throw the swamp into disarray. Arresting vast amounts of the enemy's financial assets using forfeiture might be a good move.

Blogger VD January 23, 2018 11:47 AM  

And unless I am mistaking something, you are not facing whippings and execution for your creed, unlike Jesus and the apostles, which leaves the sword as the other way to distinguish yourself from the comfortably lukewarm. Nothing is more pathetic than air-conditioned Western "Christians" meekly virtue signaling as if they stood before an irate Nebuchadnezzar's barbecue.

Koanic, stop being a dick. You're behaving like a nasty little bitch to nearly every commenter you address. Either get your act together or leave. You're not the Courage Police.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 11:49 AM  

Trump doesn't really have that long. Cuck Ryan and the Kentucky Undertaker are planning to throw the mid-terms to the D-jersey's

That is what I have been thinking. The most optimistic is that Trump has been delaying stuff because he wants to take action over summer when it will have the maximum effect on the election. Plus the Republicans have slacked off a little. They are no longer routinely against him.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 11:50 AM  

"the Republicans have slacked off a little. They are no longer routinely against him."

Stockholm syndrome, appropriated for good.

Anonymous Precious January 23, 2018 11:59 AM  

I agree that the best time for some high profile arrests and filed charges would be before the 2018 elections.

Now the entrenched elites had to be thinking about assassination after Trump won, but is it possible that stupid FBI buraucrats made that option too risky by openly discussing it via text?

Blogger Ingot9455 January 23, 2018 12:11 PM  

@3 I think Qanon has mentioned that a remote triggered assassination device of some type was discovered and taken out during the 'remodeling' of the Oval Office and White House early in.

It syncs up with the various silly trial balloons about impeaching/25 amendmenting Trump and Pence putting Ryan in office, having him nominate Hillary for VP and then 'step aside.'

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 23, 2018 12:14 PM  

I was amused at the following IG news headline:

ISIS Supporter Caught With Child Porn

Made me immediately wonder which Repuke had been caught (Miss Lindsay? Cuck Ryan? Kentucky Undertaker? Miss Lindsay's house-kneegrow from SC?). Alas, it was merely some Musloid goathumper.

Anonymous deplorable me January 23, 2018 12:15 PM  

@23 Jeff aka Orville
The psyop on us is to prepare the normies for the truth.

and @68 Avalanche
It's extremely hard for NON-autistes to keep up (thank you to the heroes of the Chans!!); but bits and pieces make you go: "huh."

and @77 Gen Kong
Assuming all this is true, Trump et al will have to move fairly quickly with a massive strike to throw the swamp into disarray. Arresting vast amounts of the enemy's financial assets using forfeiture might be a good move.

Yes to all. The normies, who only get their news from the (converged) networks or dwindling newspapers, need to have everything spelled out in a simplified form so they can easily understand. Normies don't go digging into threads on the chans, they're not going to wade thru Alex Jones or Cerno -- they need things in nicely digestible packets.

So, some of the delay has been (IMHO) Trump getting his ducks in a row. Declassifying the memo would be quick, and could easily be spun as out of touch/over his head idiot by the networks. This slow process of assembling the pieces is necessary.

At the same time, @77 Gen Kong is correct -- there isn't an unlimited amount of time either. I fully expect that Trump knows this and is planning accordingly.

Anonymous Philalethes January 23, 2018 12:23 PM  

@46.  pyrrhus

I don't understand why Trump doesn't declassify everything, or is he just waiting for maximum effect?

He may have the power, but that doesn't mean he should use it. If he did, now, they could put the spotlight on him, and obscure the real story — just as it seems they might have calculated that being held responsible for the "government shutdown" (if only) was a tolerable price to pay for distracting the country's attention (apparently as of yesterday that calculation was seen to be faulty).

Caesar was a good dictator, who did a lot for Rome (a lot better than his predecessor Sulla, who simply used the power to slaughter everyone he didn't like and reward his friends). And he did nothing that was against the law. Unfortunately, though, he became careless, and didn't cultivate an image of using his power reluctantly. He shouldn't have let them make him dictator-for-life, and he should have been more emphatic in refusing the crown Antony offered him. That's what got him killed.

One might think, given the handle you use here, you'd understand about how an official "victory" can turn out to be a fatal loss.

@48.  Grayman

The masses would simply shutdown and focus on the narrative handed to them by the MSM.

Which would be: TRUMP IS A DICTATOR!!! And would drown out any other "news", e.g. the slow, delayed release of whatever they're finally forced to release.

Only when it becomes clear to hoi polloi that they're dragging their feet (see @39 above) could Trump step in and reluctantly, "more in sorrow than in anger", use the power he has on behalf of the American people.

I don't know how smart Trump actually is, but at this point I'm at least confident that he's a lot smarter than they think he is. Which is encouraging, anyway.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 12:30 PM  

I don't know how smart Trump actually is, but at this point I'm at least confident that he's a lot smarter than they think he is. Which is encouraging, anyway.

Whatever his absolute intelligence, Trump has a real talent for playing the other side. I take it as natural talent plus years of hassling with big city politics.

Anonymous Elder Son January 23, 2018 12:50 PM  

The question is, will MAGA rise up en-mass and continue voting MAGA in the congress and senate elections. The state elections? Or, will its confidence in Trump be so overwhelming, that MAGA gets lazy because winning? Or, will it become drama fatigued and slink off into the shadows? This is not a one man show, despite being the, God Emperor. Will Trump be MAGA's savior, or will Trump be MAGA's judgement?

Anonymous patrick kelly January 23, 2018 1:04 PM  

Hopefully Trump doesn't read blog comments for legal advice or strategy.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 23, 2018 1:30 PM  

"Treason" is narrowly defined in the US Constitution. Actively working for the enemy in a declared war, or attempting to overthrow the Constitution by force.

Murdering POTUS should count, because "force". Planning to murder POTUS? Could be borderline. But shouldn't be.

If Feebs were really chatting about assassination of POTUS, shouldn't the Secret Service take them into custody? Like, yesterday? Then deposit them in Gitmo.

Anonymous johnc January 23, 2018 1:37 PM  

@87 The question is, will MAGA rise up en-mass and continue voting MAGA in the congress and senate elections. The state elections?

They're trying to give 1.5 million felons the right to vote in Florida. We saw how well that tactic worked in Virginia and Alabama.

Meanwhile courts are telling state legislatures to redistrict in a way that is more fair to Democrats in the US Congress.

Blogger Koanic January 23, 2018 1:40 PM  

> What have you done for your God today?

Moses killed one Egyptian. Gideon burnt one idol. Phineas impaled one couple. Jesus cleared one temple.

All were prudent men who picked their moment and got away with it.

> You're not the Courage Police.

I know that vast reservoirs of courage are painfully pent behind false doctrine. It is an evil thing to pit a man's faith against his honor.

The tiny slice of history that is the New Testament, which featured the same imperial government at the same stage in the imperial lifecycle, is not a model for how one should behave under all governments and at all points of the historical cycle. That is what the Old Testament is for. And to act as if one is ruled by evil is to invite it.

To defy Rome was counter-evangelistic suicide; to submit to the USA is anti-evangelistic genocide.

> Either get your act together or leave.

I have sinned. A bit of one will help the other.

Blogger Silly but True January 23, 2018 1:49 PM  

The crime of "rebellion or insurrection" is likely the most applicable; it only requires inciting or engaging against "the authority of the United States." Also because there's likely more than one, conspiracy of same.

Sedition generally involves use of force; probably a bar which hasn't been met. Although Manafort and his wife probably could argue the case of Mueller's morning knock, they weren't representing the authority of US at time.

Treason does require an enemy. Although the Constitution long-recognized enemies can be domestic.

Blogger bob kek mando January 23, 2018 1:55 PM  

12. Azure Amaranthine January 23, 2018 6:23 AM
Are you kept up on your prayer and fasting? I certainly am not.



today on Focus On The Family:
Can Popcorn Consumption Be Compatible With A Christian Lifestyle?

5. Al From Bay Shore January 23, 2018 5:34 AM
I'm experimenting with sriracha, bacon grease, and Parmesan.



provisionally? no.



40. Fran January 23, 2018 8:31 AM
and the FBI is a subordinate to that leadership



the FBI is part of the Executive Branch, specifically a sub-section of the Dept of Justice. thus, nominally under Trump's control.

Congress does still have budgetary and oversight powers though, yes.

it is curious that an FBI director could 'demand' to be prepped beforehand on the contents of the memo. i don't think that's going to fly.

nothing makes a bureaucrat dig in his heels more than him thinking that someone else is trying to impinge on his authority.

if the FBI director really, truly wants to see the contents of a Congressional memo then the proper way to do it would be to go up the chain of command and request it through POTUS.

and POTUS also deserves to be present when FBI-Dir views the memo.


43. Ron Winkleheimer January 23, 2018 8:58 AM
I've sometimes thought that the lack of security was deliberate



indubitably.

when 'incompetence' is endemic, how do you differentiate from malicious subterfuge?

how do you know Hillary's bath room email server was NOT a drop point for State Secrets that she had taken payment through the Clinton Foundation to reveal to foreign nationals?

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:02 PM  

@56
""Officers are not sworn to obey (the office of) the President, only the officers appointed above themselves, and to protect the Constitution."

That is not true. When I was in the military police the orders were that, given a dispute, you always obeyed the highest ranking person in your chain of command, and the guy at the top was the president, the Commander and Chief of the United States Armed Forces. As best I can remember, his correctly stated rank in the chain of command."


Read the oath of service for enlisted personnel.

Then read the oath of service for commissioned officers.

They are IDENTICAL, except the oath for officers omit's any mention of obedience to the president.

It's all in black and white, and beyond debate.

Anonymous AB.Prosper January 23, 2018 2:04 PM  

A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents wrote:"Treason" is narrowly defined in the US Constitution. Actively working for the enemy in a declared war, or attempting to overthrow the Constitution by force.

Murdering POTUS should count, because "force". Planning to murder POTUS? Could be borderline. But shouldn't be.

If Feebs were really chatting about assassination of POTUS, shouldn't the Secret Service take them into custody? Like, yesterday? Then deposit them in Gitmo.


Assuming its true, last I read the Secret Service was as mess, agents nipping off to Dominican brothels that sort of thing . They might be as converged as the FBI, maybe on the same team.

Trump no doubt has his own loyal to him security but they won't have arrest powers.





and gossip that he gets some help from Mossad also

Anonymous johnc January 23, 2018 2:07 PM  

A third of Americans will see Strzok, Page, et al as traitors. Another third will see them as freedom fighters. The other third will believe whatever the media and Jimmy Kimmel tell them to believe.

It's important to not be deceived into believed that your fellow Americans have your level of moral integrity.

Mueller has now even interviewed Sessions, the head of the damn DOJ, looking for dirt. And nobody can stop this guy because the media will spin up mass hysterics.

Anonymous Elder Son January 23, 2018 2:07 PM  

@90 So. MAGA up to the states and courts.

Or, just keep having MAGA parties, and party on.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:13 PM  

@63

That's the ENLISTED Oath.

The Commissioned Officer's Oath has no such duty to obey the President, it only includes a duty to obey "officers appointed above me."

This is DELIBERATE. It keeps the senior-most officers INDEPENDENT of a rogue president. It gives the senior military leadership the legal FREEDOM freedom to remove any President who becomes openly hostile to the Constitution -- WITHOUT fear of being charged under the UCMJ, or with Treason or any other such thing. And by extension, it gives any officer below them cover to follow such orders, as well as any enlisted person (because it allows for 2 conflicting orders -- 1 from the president, and another from an officer appointed who has decided to take part in a legitimate coup to protect the Constitution.

Now as for the President ... he has the ability to determine who are the most senior officers. [This is why most promotions into the flag ranks (1-star generals and 1-star admirals)] is always somewhat political, and ever moreso with each successive star.

Anonymous I'm Not a Fascist. But My Sons Are. January 23, 2018 2:18 PM  

BOW TO LEPER MESSIAH

OH NO YOU WENT AN DONE DIDIT DINTYA.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:19 PM  

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Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:22 PM  

Ah, it turns out that I am mistaken.

The Officer's Oath is VERY different from the enlisted oath:

"I, _____, having been appointed an officer in the Army of the United States, as indicated above in the grade of _____ do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter; So help me God." (DA Form 71, 1 August 1959, for officers.)"

Reference: https://www.army.mil/values/officers.html

Notice the COMPLETE absence of not only obedience to the President, but also obedience to superior officers.

In other words, Officers are expected to think for themselves, and DO THE RIGHT THING, *REGARDLESS* of what ANYBODY tells them to do, including superior officers in their chain of command.

Anonymous Grayman January 23, 2018 2:27 PM  

@100. Akulkis

Hell of a catch-22 though. It still comes back to You come at the king, you best not miss

Anonymous Grayman January 23, 2018 2:29 PM  

Its the same issue for enlisted. "i was just following orders" is not considered a defense, so in questionable situations you risk your head either way

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:35 PM  

@101

Oh, absolutely. The point is, if the military leadership pulls off a coup successfully, they have affirmative defense (defense of the Constitution from a domestic enemy) available, and can even move for dismissal of charges at the hearing stage.... provided they pulled off the coup for a legitimate reason.

On the other hand, it doesn't give the military leadership carte blanche to perform a coup. They could pull off a coup successfully, and still be charged, if they did it for NOT the right reason(s).

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 2:39 PM  

@102. True. UCMJ specifically states that no service member is to follow an illegal order.

Most of my classes on that aspect have been, "if given an illegal order, state objection to following an illegal order, and give the superior a chance to modify the order."

However, some illegal orders (like just willy-nilly disarming the general populace), I, and most enlisted, have pretty much determined that anyone giving such an order doesn't deserve a second chance to rephrase the order -- the only proper response to such an enemy of the citizenry is immediate, on the spot execution.

Blogger justaguy January 23, 2018 2:50 PM  

This complex matter shows why Trump was so mad at Sessions when he cucked out a recused himself over the Russia investigation. Without loyal leadership guiding the DOJ, the swamp worked against this coming out—everyone still in charge is involved and Sessions is in lala land. It is good that Congress stepped up, but an AG running this would be much cleaner and a better sweep of the dirt form all of the swamp corners. Note that the only push on this is Congress, and some IG investigation that the swamp learned long ago how to neutralize (fire a few low levels, move a few people around).

Maybe if we get a special counsel with AG oversight, this can go somewhere.

Anonymous Grayman January 23, 2018 2:51 PM  

@104. Akulkis

The US military is now Diverse enough that any steps by the military outside of a small cadre of SF or other elite teams, would be highly likely to end up in civil war since the "diverse" interests are not going to align.

At the end of the day it always comes down to the victor makes the rules. the Germans killed some people in camps and were put on trial. The allies killed some people in camps, incinerated an entire city or 2 of primarily civilians and no issues.

Blogger James Dixon January 23, 2018 2:53 PM  

Via Gab, I think this belongs here: https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/icotr/51117/2016_Cert_FISC_Memo_Opin_Order_Apr_2017.pdf

Take it for what it's worth, which may be nothing.

Anonymous m January 23, 2018 2:55 PM  

Akulkis.... interestingly, compare the oath for the Nat'l. Guard.......they DO respond to the President. I'll post the entire thing for the record: All officers of the seven uniformed services of the United States swear or affirm an oath of office upon commissioning. It differs slightly from that of the oath of enlistment that enlisted members recite when they enter the service. It is required by statute, the oath being prescribed by Section 3331, Title 5, United States Code.[1] It is traditional for officers to recite the oath upon promotion but as long as the officer's service is continuous this is not required.[2]
Text of the Oath

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.[1]

The oath is for an indeterminate period; no duration is specifically defined.

Officers of the National Guard of the various States, however, take an additional oath:

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State (Commonwealth, District, Territory) of ___ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of the State (Commonwealth, District, Territory) of ___, that I make this obligation freely, without any mental reservations or purpose of evasion, and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the Office of [grade] in the Army/Air National Guard of the State (Commonwealth, District, Territory) of ___ on which I am about to enter, so help me God.[3]

Commissioned officers (O-1 (second lieutenant or ensign) through O-10 (general or admiral) and W-2 through W-5 (chief warrant officers)) are commissioned under the authority of the President of the United States with the advice and consent of the United States Senate; warrant officers (W-1) receive a warrant under the authority of their respective service secretary (e.g., the Secretary of the Army or the Secretary of the Navy); National Guard officers are additionally committed to the authority of the governor of their state. They may be activated in the service of their state in time of local or state emergency in addition to federal activation. Reserve officers may only be activated by the President of the United States.

Now, who defends the President? Or who can take him out? Interesting situation.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 3:00 PM  

@106

The Diversity is in combat service support units, not combat arms units (the sole exception being artillery. Lots of blacks in arty... but not in maneuver units).

CSS units are things such as Dock Operations, Laundry services, Water Purification, Petroleum Pipeline units, etc.

CSS units are really only needed in foreign wars. In a domestic war, especially a civil war, you're pretty much supplying your army off of the domestic economy.

The numbers of minorities in the war-fighting units is minimal.... losing them from your ranks would be about the same impact as a bad firefight.... Promote a few to replace NCO losses, and new replacements will be arriving in a few days to fill in from the bottom.

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 3:04 PM  

@108

"Now, who defends the President? Or who can take him out? Interesting situation."

Federal officers, and any enlisted who choose to obey the orders of those officers, provided that that those officers are NOT issuing illegal orders.

Concerning Obummer issuing planes to go down to central america and pick up children without their parents, and brining them into the country without visas, or even claims of need for refuge... he could conceivably been taken out of the military for committing tangible acts as an enemy of the constitution (organizing and executing an invasion of the united states by foreign nationals).

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella January 23, 2018 3:06 PM  

would the poster going " we all know..." on another poster's comments please stop. This We does not know. This we is reading this blog to learn.

I looked up the chan-link helpfully provided by a poster, and, unfortunately really could not make heads or tails of it, so I am relying on explanations here, and a few other places. I'm not equipped with programming shorthand, or even crossword puzzles, so all the explanation in the world helps a great deal.

Anonymous Gen. Kong January 23, 2018 3:31 PM  

In other words, Officers are expected to think for themselves, and DO THE RIGHT THING, *REGARDLESS* of what ANYBODY tells them to do, including superior officers in their chain of command.

And a magnificent ghost-dance it is, too. If the actual officers in the military took this oath even half-seriously, the stinking, utterly corrupt and evil Fake Banana Empire would have been overthrown during the reign of the despicable Franklin Delano Roosevelt, if not before. Probably should have done it during the regime of the even worse Woodrow Wilson (MHBH).

Blogger Akulkis January 23, 2018 3:33 PM  

@112

Too true.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 3:43 PM  

"the decision to exonerate former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton"

No such decision was made. She was never exonerated.

Comey merely announced at the press conference that they weren't recommending she be prosecuted. Even though he laid out exactly how she was guilty. It's just that people like her don't get prosecuted for being guilty like that.

"Of course Loretta Lynch knew he [sic] wasn't going to be charged"

She would know, because she's the one who would be bringing the case forward. All the FBI does is recommend.

She couldn't have known that Coney wouldn't break character and yell, "Help, the Clintons are holding my wife at gunpoint!" at the press conference. But even if the FBI recommended Clinton be prosecuted, Lynch wouldn't have prosecuted her.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 3:47 PM  

@2-You're right, that does sound absurd. But the law is often absurd. Mueller may be in the headspace of Kafka's novel the Trial, I don't know.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 3:52 PM  

@12-"That, and the conception that maybe just maybe some of them can be saved

Or the opposite concern: like Hamlet looming over Claudius, we want to be sure they go to hell after we kill them.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 4:02 PM  

@40-Hey, the FBI (or factions therein) probably has dirt on a large enough number of Congressmen to expect consideration. Or they can go find it, hint-hint. Plus, their mutual masters bought and paid for reciprocation in such situations.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 4:07 PM  

@4-Nevermind all of history. Read Mosca's the Ruling Class or Michels' Political Parties, for two examples. Small groups wielding power within larger political groups in modern democracies not only exist, they are inevitable!

Granted, they don't have to do things like Plot to assassinate the duly-elected president. They could just get together to promote their kind of fellas, or whatever. But they're always there.

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 4:10 PM  

115. tublecane

Law is not so much absurd, as sort of, kind of, like magick incantations. No, it's not quite the same, but there are some of the same patterns.

If you go back to the neolithic, witch doctors were both healers and lawyers. Lawyers for whom, lawyers for those accused of being witches. This was a great advance over paleolithic dealings, as an accused witch would always die (there were no lawyers).

The slight, but obvious, connections between lawyer's use of words and shear magic goes way back, and is interesting. I looked in these directions after reading "Ancient Law," by Sir Henry Maine, and followed up with various books on Sacrifice and Initiation by the classic French school of Sociology. Sacrifice to them, meant self-sacrifice for the good of the group, and other Sacrifice was a poor substitute. Initiation allowed distance tribal groups to reestablish brotherhood connections.

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 4:24 PM  

My thoughts are that 80-85% of the truth will finally come out, as when more comes out, people will demand even more. This percent will come out before 2020. There will be huge demand for blood of a lot of the main players, and this will all place enormous stresses on society, forcing major, and irreversible changes.

Many people are tough enough to take the Truths, and those who are not, or are forever on the other side, in spite of being totally played by the elite (yep, all the shills were supposed to die, right along with the Deplorables). Tons of HRC memes saying in 2013, "Keep them starving, poor, and stupid." She was talking about the people voting for her.

Blogger Johnny January 23, 2018 4:29 PM  

Oath of Commissioned Officers

do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies,...

And,

Article II Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, the Commander in Chief clause, states that "[t]he President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States."

The probable reason they don't bring up obeying a superior office is that it is so ingrained that it is just assumed.

To the best of my knowledge, other than the palace guard around the White House, the only president to ever take direct control of the troops was President (not General) George Washington. He did it during the Whisky Rebellion and he did not have to go through the absurd process of giving himself a rank as he was already Commander in Chief.

In practice this whole business of only obeying legal orders offers very little restraint on what people actually do. Unless it is something really heinous, the safest and easiest thing is to do whatever the hell they want you to do. Military justice is a rigged game run by officers and officers like being obeyed.

Anonymous Mike Rock January 23, 2018 4:48 PM  

On ZH... Strzok thinks there was no possibility of collusion......:https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-01-23/jaw-dropping-text-message-fbi-agent-suggests-no-trump-collusion-russia

You chan gurus, when something breaks from Q can you post it? Looks like Ariadne and I are in the same boat.....rather slow on some of this net stuff.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 4:49 PM  

@85-"He did nothing that was against the law"

Maybe technically true as dictator, because of the special status of dictators. But he didn't get to be dictator by legal means. He literally sacked Rome.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 5:03 PM  

@85-About them calling Trump a dictator in response, yes, that would be the natural choice. We'd be beyond normal politics at that point, and in a lot of people's minds beyond good and evil, as well.

It's not entirely crazy, either. Though Trump isn't a Manchurian President or anything, they don't know that. Some of them might actually believe it, and those who don't still believe he's bad for the country. The Deep State could be seen reasonably as the lesser of two evils. I mean, if you think Trump is evil, which obviously many fools do.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 5:18 PM  

@103-We're really talking about the old None Dare Call It Treason defense here, aren't we?

Anonymous Andrew E. January 23, 2018 5:42 PM  

You chan gurus, when something breaks from Q can you post it? Looks like Ariadne and I are in the same boat.....rather slow on some of this net stuff.

Q just dropped again. Looks like audio and/or video drops are coming. Drop pasted below:

The light will reveal those on the team and those pretending to be.

This is not a game.

They want us divided.

Last posts [self destruction] will immediately show the world the TRUTH.

Instructions will be sent on how to preserve offline.

You didn’t think this was simply about words did you?

We have it all.

Coming soon to a theater near you.

Q

Anonymous Causal Lurker January 23, 2018 6:09 PM  

Johnny,

No, not quite. James Madison exerted his authority (1814) as CinC and took command of the forces at the Battle of Bladensberg. Big mistake.
He should have left command to the senior colonel on site, and not him, his Cabinet, and the incompetent aide of a general who passed down his orders. Lincoln in 1864 had the good sense to observe the Battle of Washington and leave command in hands of the soldiers.

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 6:41 PM  


"It's not entirely crazy, either. Though Trump isn't a Manchurian President or anything, they don't know that. Some of them might actually believe it, and those who don't still believe he's bad for the country. The Deep State could be seen reasonably as the lesser of two evils. I mean, if you think Trump is evil, which obviously many fools do."

WTH you are talking about? They know that they are bad for the country, and are proud of it. The leaders of the Left are insider Globalists, and they know exactly that they are low lives. Their audience is in the dark, and believes in the Marxism, Feminism, Left/Right, BLM etc. and etc.. BUT THEY (GLOBALIST LEADERS) DO NOT BELIEVE IN ANYTHING EXCEPT THEIR OWN RIGHT TO RULE. Everyone else is just crap on the dung heaap to them. Multiple genders, they know it is garbage, all of it.

Blogger tuberman January 23, 2018 7:07 PM  

He also picked on @Jack, meaning Jack, the Twitter guy., asking if he noticed someone missing today.

Promises that this will now go beyond words. Telling people to stay inside, off the streets (whrn it breaks).

People, this is not just about Left/Right as in 2013 HRC, Keep them starved, keep them poor, keep them stupid. She was talking about her voters. The leaders of this always fiancee all sides of the wars.They created and paid for Socialism and Marxism from the start, yet they do not believe in any ism, just their own power and rule. They likely set up and paid for the beginnings of National Socialism too, as this is what they do.

Blogger tublecane January 23, 2018 7:08 PM  

@131-I wasn't talking about insider globalist leaders, but the message that would be out in the MSM, and the people who would buy it.

Obviously, the MSM gets talking points from above (or below, as it were). But "Trump's a dictator!" is something dopey journalists could come up with on their own.

Anonymous Redjack January 23, 2018 7:20 PM  

I said last year that Trump had better have his own security force. One loyal to him.

Russia failed, he passed the physical, I suspect that the secret society is thinking about the Ides of March

Anonymous Redjack January 23, 2018 7:57 PM  

Trump has till the midterms. If the GOP loses, he is going to be impeached. If the hold on, I suspect he will be assassinated

Anonymous Mike Rock January 23, 2018 8:26 PM  

Found a European site:
QAnon Update January 24
Jan 23 2018 03:47:32 Q !UW.yye1fxo

What would happen if texts originating from a FBI agent to several [internals] discussed the assassination (possibility) of the POTUS or member of his family?
What if the texts suggest foreign allies were involved?
Forget the Russia set up [1 of 22].
This is only the beginning.
Be careful what you wish for.
AS THE WORLD TURNS.
Could messages such as those be publicly disclosed?
What happens to the FBI?
What happens to the DOJ?
What happens to special counsel?
What happens in general?
Every FBI/DOJ prev case could be challenged.
Lawless.
Think logically.
We haven’t started the drops re: human trafficking / sacrifices [yet][worst].
Those [good] who know cannot sleep.
Those [good] who know cannot find peace.
Those [good] who know will not rest until those responsible are held accountable.
Nobody can possibly imagine the pure evil and corruption out there.
Those you trust are the most guilty of sin.
Who are we taught to trust?
If you are religious, PRAY.
60% must remain private [at least] – for humanity.
These people should be hanging.
Q

Clicks on the Ads Keep Us Alive ��
Jan 23 2018 03:50:37 Q !UW.yye1fxo

PRAY.
PREY.
Notice the similarity?
Q
Jan 23 2018 04:05:15 Q !UW.yye1fxo

Chatter just SPIKED.
Q
Jan 23 2018 04:06:38 Q !UW.yye1fxo

Site being attacked.
Q
Jan 23 2018 04:26:59 Q !UW.yye1fxo

Archive.
Last post triggered sniffer.
Eyes on.
Q
Jan 23 2018 04:39:22 Q !UW.yye1fxo

Drones over US.
Tracking only.
[]
Q
Jan 23 2018 23:36:34 Q !UW.yye1fxo

The light will reveal those on the team and those pretending to be.
This is not a game.
They want us divided.
Last posts [self destruction] will immediately show the world the TRUTH.
Instructions will be sent on how to preserve offline.
You didn’t think this was simply about words did you?
We have it all.
Coming soon to a theater near you.
Q
Jan 23 2018 23:45:58 Q !UW.yye1fxo

Letter to @Jack?
Who did @Jack lose today?
Goodbye @Jack.
Predictable.
ALL.
Q

Anonymous johnc January 23, 2018 8:44 PM  

@123 There will be huge demand for blood of a lot of the main players

You have too much faith in the American people. Everyone has known that pedophilia is rampant in Hollywood and yet they still line up dutifully to watch that crap they put out.

The left was quick to bombard Roy Moore as a pedophile and a sex creep, but they just lurv Joe Biden and Bill Clinton. Is it a double standard? Of course not. They just don't have standards.

Most Americans no longer have moral integrity; half of them are sub-100 IQ that have been brainwashed for generations.

All of this, of course, assumes that the media will even cover any revelations with a modicum of honesty. And that's a bad assumption. The DOJ could have video evidence of Hillary hacking somebody to death and the media will find a way to hide it or spin it.

Blogger Were-Puppy January 23, 2018 10:49 PM  

@91 A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents

If Feebs were really chatting about assassination of POTUS, shouldn't the Secret Service take them into custody? Like, yesterday? Then deposit them in Gitmo.
---

It's not like half of hollywood and a boatload of twits weren't endlessly commenting about assassinating Trump. Kathy Griffin, that play where they nightly assassinate a Trump look-a-like, etc.

These agents may have the exact same mentality, and they might have been same as diversity hires, brought in for politics during the OHammed admin.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 23, 2018 11:12 PM  

@138 Were-Puppy

It's not like half of hollywood and a boatload of twits weren't endlessly commenting about assassinating Trump. Kathy Griffin, that play where they nightly assassinate a Trump look-a-like, etc.

Sure, and a paraplegic lying on the sidewalk in a pool of his own bodily fluids in Manhattan screaming "DEATH to Drumpf!" is exactly the same threat as a cabal of FBI agents who have access to all sorts of tools.

Some threats are more credible and actionable than others. Duh.

Anonymous Justine January 23, 2018 11:25 PM  

Get your MARK DRISCOLL-STYLE HERESY OUT OF THIS FORUM!!!!
Tere is no place for whar C.S Lewis called "Christianity And...'. There is only Christ first and forever.

Anonymous Jo January 23, 2018 11:26 PM  

All this Q stuff sounds pretty nuts. Don't get me wrong, I'm waiting for the memo to be revealed, and I believe there's insane corruption at the top levels of government, but this Q stuff is odd.

I'm sure you folks know more about it than I do, but I wouldn't be surprised if Q was Shia Labeouf trying to get back at folks for not leaving his camera alone.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents January 23, 2018 11:43 PM  

@141 Jo
I wouldn't be surprised if Q was Shia Labeouf trying to get back at folks for not leaving his camera alone.

Dial back on your street drugs, 'kay?

Anonymous Jo January 24, 2018 12:11 AM  

@142 -- don't be silly. I can't afford street prices, goof. And I mean that economically and spiritually.

Look, there may be a lot more to this Q stuff than I'm seeing, but it just looks like vague palm reader words begging for interpretation to casual glance. Now, it would be neat and clever if all the capitalized words could be scrambled into coherent phrases, but just comparing "pray" and "prey" seems, I mean, speaking of street drugs, the comparison reminds me of some kid waxing deep while high on dry flaking crumbs of marijuana.

Blogger Robert What? January 24, 2018 1:08 AM  

I don't think they shouldtrust Sessions. He'll probably suddenly recuse himself at a critical moment. After all, he is a swamp creature himself.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 24, 2018 1:59 AM  

@143 Jo

Look, there may be a lot more to this Q stuff than I'm seeing,


That's likely. But let's return to Sheaah LeBeef.

Midwit third rate actor has an emotional meltdown after the Trumpenslide, sets up camera to wail at in Brooklyn "He Will Not Divide Us". Hilarity ensues when old-school Canarsie shows up to tell Sheaah where to go and what to do, SJW leftard drum circles form, shitlords start trolling the camera with smirks and eventually Sheaaah gets arrested for assault.

Oh, noes! LeBeef then gets some bar out in Albuquerque, New Mexico's downtown party zone to install his "He Will Not Divide Us" camera. Instead of old-school Canarsie now we get old school downtown bouncers, La Raza activists, spray paint on the lens, big white guys showing up with a quart of MILK, yeah, WHITE MILK to chug at midnight. Even better hilarity ensues when white SJW's collide with La Raza only to wind up overruled by dark little Indian guys - not dot, Navaho feather LULZ!

Some gunshots get fired a couple of blocks away one night to the surprise of no thinking person and SHeEEAH! decides he's gonna take his camera and go where no one can find him. No one.

He sets up a flagpole on friendly dirt somewhere in the heartland. Points a camera up at the flag. No geography in sight. Declares victory.

/pol/ finds his flagpole in 37 hours using jet contrails, constellations, frog peeps, and then in the middle of the night lowers ShEEAH's flag, replaces it with a MAGA hat and exfiltrates.

Your boy Shia is not smart. He's not even a midwit. He's got zero ability to think ahead. His operational security is zero. His time out in the Finnish woods didn't improve that.

Try again, toots?

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Deplorable Cents January 24, 2018 2:00 AM  

Jo
Now, it would be neat and clever if all the capitalized words could be scrambled into coherent phrases,

There's history at work here, and not just for the 3L1T3 either. Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not there.

Anonymous Jo January 24, 2018 2:07 AM  

I just mentioned Shia because one of the Q messages had the phrase, "They want us divided." And it occurred to me it would be funny if Shia was typing out a bunch of nonsense. I don't know if that qualifies as making him "my boy."

Anonymous Jo January 24, 2018 2:15 AM  

@146 -- "Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it's not there."

Sure. I don't disagree with that.

I'm not here waving an anti-Q flag. I'm just saying that if it turns out to be something, I'll be impressed that folks found meaning where I suspected snake oil.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2018 8:06 AM  

Jo wrote:I'm not here waving an anti-Q flag. I'm just saying that if it turns out to be something, I'll be impressed that folks found meaning where I suspected snake oil.

If we assume that Q is real, there is far too much room for interpretation. I'm sure the anons have gotten far more out of Q's drops than Q ever put in them. The chans are deep into the emanations of penumbras.

All we can be sure of is that Q has been stirring up the chans in a fashion mostly useful to Trump and the Alt-Right.

Blogger bosscauser January 24, 2018 9:14 PM  

I'm betting there were many Romans who cheered on the Praetorian guard too!

#ReleaseTheMemo

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