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Thursday, February 22, 2018

Let them learn

The God-Emperor is considering pulling Immigration and Customs Enforcement out of California:
President Donald Trump said on Thursday that he’s considering pulling Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers out of California.

Why? Because he feels the state is giving his administration “no help” in targeting the violent MS-13 gang, especially in Los Angeles.

“We’re getting no help from the state of California,” Trump said from the White House. “Frankly, if I wanted to pull our people from California you would have a crime nest like you’ve never seen in California. All I’d have to do is say ‘ICE and border patrol, let California learn.’”

Trump made those remarks during a meeting at the White House where he also spent a few minutes scolding California.

“You would see crime like nobody’s ever seen crime in this country,” he said of California without federal immigration agents. “And yet we get no help from the state of California.”

He also took a shot at leadership in the state.

“They are doing a lousy management job,” Trump said. “They have the highest taxes in the nation and they don’t know what’s happening out there. Frankly, it’s a disgrace, the sanctuary city situation, the protection of these horrible criminals in California and other places. If we ever pulled our ICE out and we ever said, ‘hey, let California learn and let them figure it out for themselves,’ in two months, they’d be begging for us to come back. They would be begging.”

Would the president really do such a thing?

“You know what, I’m thinking about it,” Trump said.
He absolutely should do it. Abandon California to the Left and let the Mexicans wipe out Silicon Valley, Hollywood, Sacramento, and the rest of the Left Coast lunacy. But ignore their begging. Ignore their screams for help. Send in camera drones to record the inevitable atrocities. Then round up everyone who still advocates immigration, magic dirt, and diversity, and ship them to the Golden State to enjoy the consequences of their favored policies.

That would be true justice. Because they aren't going to learn any other way, and better to let them learn from the collapse of a single state than from the collapse of the entire United States. They really won't. Quoth one SJW:

He should do it. The imaginary crime wave will never materialize and I bet California would be a better place without innocent people being ripped from their families. 

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75 Comments:

Blogger Bufface February 22, 2018 6:49 PM  

This is passive aggressive failure.

Sure! remove all enforcement so the orcs can use California as the point of access to the rest of the country. That will show them!

Instead, arrest the California government for treason for coperating with a foreign invasion and build the damn wall.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 22, 2018 6:55 PM  

Now that's an agree and amplify move

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 22, 2018 6:55 PM  

Check points sweet heart

Blogger Daniel Bendele February 22, 2018 7:02 PM  

Question for you, Dark Lord: Are there enough true patriots to save at least a part of the country or should I be learning Polish? I would "go back" to Alsace, but from what my relatives over there say, the situation is worse.

Blogger ace February 22, 2018 7:15 PM  

The only thing he could do in this case would be to redeploy ICE along California's interior border. Talk about symbolism.

Blogger James Dixon February 22, 2018 7:17 PM  

> ...and I bet California would be a better place without innocent people being ripped from their families.

Innocent people? They're breaking the law. How do you suppose he feels about people who don't pay their taxes? Are they innocent too?

Blogger Jack Daw February 22, 2018 7:36 PM  

Leave ICE; withdraw federal funding.

Blogger Edgar Abbey February 22, 2018 7:39 PM  

Trump should get behind Calexit. California is a shithole. Let em have it.

Blogger Kevin Rogers February 22, 2018 7:44 PM  

The only problem with his logic is that they are not capable of learning.

Blogger Edgar Abbey February 22, 2018 7:46 PM  

When a limb becomes gangrenous, it must be cut off.

Blogger David Power February 22, 2018 7:49 PM  

Will they ever really learn?

Labour Member of Parliament gets a close up and personal taste of the diversity he's spent half a century promoting...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5417685/amp/Labour-MP-bruised-shaken-mugging.html

Blogger Lovekraft February 22, 2018 7:53 PM  

Leaving this trailer for Sicario 2 here. Note what's at the 1:07 mark.

The first Sicario was incredible. The next should drop any pretensions that California is somehow above the fray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pymm6cmE9uQ

Blogger Smokey Dust February 22, 2018 7:56 PM  

Fair warning. “What about meeeee?!?” is not going to yield anything positive for you here.

I get it, i’m A fake paper American too. Moms from Austria, Dad’s side grand parents are orphans from WWI Italy. Our particular situations are irrelevant to realities of diversity.

Best bet - marry American posterity, accept that we will never truly be Americans and be willing to ruthlessly advance American nationalism regardless of that fact.

Blogger tz February 22, 2018 7:58 PM  

Not tired of winning. Including launching the next missile.

The upside is California will be a magnet for DACA and the rest of the illegals, and get on their welfare and overwhelm them.

But we won't need drones. The employees of the tech companies will livestream their interesting commutes. Periscope, Facebook video, Youtube will livestream the Zimbabwe, Venezuelan dystopia.

The wall just got a few hundred miles longer, and will go along a slightly different route.

DO IT! DO IT NOW! I'll even help crowdfunding moving all the illegals to "California, here I come...". The golden (we don't segre)gates will be open.

Blogger tz February 22, 2018 7:58 PM  

Every place needs a place to dump its trash.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 22, 2018 8:02 PM  

Speaking of "Sicario" I get second hand Intel that it is advised if you work in Columbus, NM you best get kidnapping insurance

Blogger The Observer February 22, 2018 8:02 PM  

Do it. Withdraw ICE, let them all come in, and most importantly, block anyone from trying to flee to other states.

Can't stress that last one enough.

Blogger Wild Ape February 22, 2018 8:03 PM  

When California begins begging there should an agreement that they need to 1. End Gerrymandering 2. End Sanctuary cities. 3. Agree to photo ID registration and 4. Verify current voters are alive, not registered in other states and legal US citizens.

OpenID Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass February 22, 2018 8:05 PM  

Dooooooo it!

That way if I get on with BP next year, CA won't be a concern. Should've last year but can't help my poly operator....

In reference to the question about fake Americans, closest my family gets to American is getting here before the War of 1812. My advice: don't whine. Be nationalistic and fight. If you have to go back, cross that bridge when it comes to it.

Blogger Man of the Atom February 22, 2018 8:05 PM  

O/T: JimFear138 wins the Anti-gun Nut Triggering Award this week:

Money quote:
"People love to ask the wonderfully emotive question, 'How many children's deaths are worth your right to have guns?'

And the only proper answer to that is, 'Of course it is sad whenever one of these tragedies happens, but all of them.'"

Blogger Katusov February 22, 2018 8:10 PM  

"Sure! remove all enforcement so the orcs can use California as the point of access to the rest of the country. That will show them!"

Why not just pull them out of the sanctuary cities/major metropolitan areas? These areas are where the criminal illegals are headed. Deploy the ICE troopers in the areas where the locals will support them. Sure the cities will go to hell sooner, but they are on their way there now. Might give a boost to those who want to partition California into two states.
https://nypost.com/2018/01/17/longshot-bid-proposes-to-split-california-into-two-states/

OpenID zhukovg February 22, 2018 8:25 PM  

I wonder, if at some level, the GE knows that the American Union, in its current form, is doomed. Perhaps he understands that sometimes, to save the body, it is necessary to amputate a diseased limb.

California has a gangrenous reek.

--ZhukovG

OpenID Überdeplorable Psychedelic Cat Grass February 22, 2018 8:28 PM  

Courtesy of Federale:

https://federaleagent86.blogspot.com/2018/02/brown-run-border-exploited-by-mexican.html?m=1

https://federaleagent86.blogspot.com/2018/02/war-on-immigration-enforcement-escalates.html?m=1

Blogger Timmy3 February 22, 2018 8:36 PM  

This is exactly what they want. California is a sanctuary state. California also has very liberal crime sentencing laws. They won’t lock criminals up for long. Don’t look for the residents to change their minds.

Blogger Wild Ape February 22, 2018 8:38 PM  

A reminder of when California first turned SJW:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rcIJIWqYmo

Blogger Hammerli280 February 22, 2018 8:45 PM  

The issue I have is that we would be abandoning the decent people of the Central Valley, Northern California, and the Mojave to the tender mercies (Ha!) of the Coastal Fascists.

My own plan would be to declare California to be in rebellion against the United States. Then suspend Habeus Corpus, declare martial law, and let the rebels feel the full force of the American military. If we're feeling nice, we just cut off the California Aqueduct water supply and wait two or three weeks. Or JDAM strikes. If I'm feeling nasty...bottled sunshine.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 22, 2018 8:48 PM  

If the cops in California are like Sheriff Israel's Broward Coward I give California two weeks before we send in Brolin and del Toro

Blogger Silly but True February 22, 2018 8:50 PM  

Pence can offer them a deal in 2025 to uphold the rule of law in exchange for the science of sanitation and running water, which by then will have been lost.

Blogger ReluctantMessiah February 22, 2018 8:51 PM  

I would only add we quarantine California with a Big Beautiful Wall before we completely pull out. I don't want that shit spreading.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville February 22, 2018 8:52 PM  

When I saw this earlier today it put a smile on my face. Still not tired of winning. We finally have a MAN in the Whitehouse.

Blogger Lazarus February 22, 2018 9:10 PM  

'How many children's deaths are worth your right to have guns?'

How many children's deaths are worth your right to have an abortion? 50 million?

Blogger tz February 22, 2018 9:10 PM  

Now there is the possibility of the melting pot, but there is not active "slow" volcano except in Hawaii, but I'd be happy to throw all the immigrants into that caldera. In the continental USA, there are only boiling acid pools in Yellowstone, but if they really don't want to travel...

Blogger tz February 22, 2018 9:12 PM  

How many children's deaths are worth the policy of allowing Muslims into your country?

Blogger Unknown February 22, 2018 9:17 PM  

I have said for a long time that Trump should announce that any illegal wishing to stay must reside in a sanctuary state. Any illegal not in a sanctuary state will be deported when found. It would sink California in 6 months and would convert the whole state to 'pro- deportation' in less than a year.

Blogger Thaddeus Rex February 22, 2018 9:51 PM  

If California's cities will not cooperate in enforcing immigration law, then by what right do they operate international airports? Pull ICE out of LAX and SFO! Ban international arrivals and departures from California airspace! Wanna fly to Tokyo from SF? Sorry, you're going to have to change planes in Salt Lake City. That goes for you guys in your private jets as well, Brin, Page, Schmidt, et al.

Blogger PW February 22, 2018 9:57 PM  

One problem with giving up California is the San Diego, LA and SF(area) are all major ports which means they are important for pacific naval dominance as well as pacific commerce. One could argue that we could simply use the Pudget sound, but I suspect Seattle isn't too far behind California in terms of liberalism.

As stupid as California's politics are, they are geographically important.

Blogger Miss Carnivorous February 22, 2018 10:14 PM  

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Blogger FP February 22, 2018 10:20 PM  

@10

Prayer rugs. Nice touch. I thought 1:03 was better tho. Del Toro bump firing his pistol into a guy.

@34 Seattle is run by communists.

Blogger Lazarus February 22, 2018 10:21 PM  

@34

One problem with giving up California is the San Diego, LA and SF(area) are all major ports which means they are important for pacific naval dominance as well as pacific commerce.

I guess they will have to remain accessible to the remaining USA for military purposes, kinda like Gitmo.

Or consequences.

Blogger Lazarus February 22, 2018 10:25 PM  

let the newly formed California Armed Forces disagree....

Blogger Lazarus February 22, 2018 10:30 PM  

One problem with giving up California is the San Diego, LA and SF(area) are all major ports which means they are important for pacific naval dominance as well as pacific commerce.

I have a suspicion they will remain open to the remaining USA, kinda like Gitmo. I guess the newly formed California Defense Force may object, but I am not sure what resources they can bring to bear.

Blogger Michael Kingswood February 22, 2018 10:31 PM  

Fucking A! That's what I'm talking about.

Speaking as a person trapped in the CA shithole without his consent, I would love to see that happen.

Blogger kurt9 February 22, 2018 10:34 PM  

Send in camera drones to record the inevitable atrocities. Then round up everyone who still advocates immigration, magic dirt, and diversity, and ship them to the Golden State to enjoy the consequences of their favored policies.

Liberals only learn through intense personal suffering. They literally do not learn any other way.

Blogger J Van Stry February 22, 2018 10:34 PM  

Yesterday, Jerry Brown signed a law that repealed the law making it a crime to use guns in the commission of a crime.
Let that sink in a minute.
It used to be that if you committed a crime using a gun here, you got hit with extra penalties, because that was also a crime.

Not anymore.

Gun crime will now skyrocket in California. They keep passing laws to harm the law abiding, and they keep repealing laws that hurt criminals.

I hope to be out of this state by July. The hard part is figuring out where to go next. Tenn and Texas are currently leading the list, mostly for good gun laws and lower taxes.

Blogger Ceerilan February 22, 2018 10:36 PM  

Abandoning the Democrats in California would prove to them that Trump is malevolent. Liberals never learn. They've also been leaving California for greener pastures for a generation, and boosting the Democratic parties in the states they're moving to...

Blogger Daniel Paul Grech Pereira February 22, 2018 10:52 PM  

Watching SJWs hang themselves is my new favourite hobby. Just like Trudeau getting made fun of for this India trip.

Blogger DonReynolds February 22, 2018 10:57 PM  

Like every president before him, Donald Trump made an Oath.....

"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Obama was not motivated or constrained by that Oath and it remains to be seen if Donald Trump will take the Oath seriously.

Enforce the laws, already on the books, fairly and consistently, without favor.

OpenID simplytimothy February 22, 2018 11:02 PM  

ot: David French speaks Alt-Right..
https://twitter.com/DavidAFrench/status/966777771174318080?ref_src=twcamp%5Eshare%7Ctwsrc%5Em5%7Ctwgr%5Eemail%7Ctwcon%5E7046%7Ctwterm%5E0

Blogger Akulkis February 22, 2018 11:15 PM  

@Daniel Blandele

I'm half Slavic. NOBODY questions whether I'm American, because my Slavic side of the family dive head first into the culture. Gave up the language, traditions, everything. The only exception being my grandmother's step-mom who never did learn to speak English despite being here for over 65 years. She lived less than 10 miles away (Hamtramck), yet when she died, I don't think I had ever met her. My parents didn't even take me to her funeral. She lived her most of her life, but never really left Poland.

Don't be like her.

Blogger SacrificialLamb February 22, 2018 11:35 PM  

Trump needs to make an extreme example out of the worst offenders. The California State Senate leader, Kevin De Léon, OPENLY admitted that HALF HIS FAMILY was in the country ILLEGALLY, using false documents, which makes them eligible for deportation under President Trump’s executive order against “sanctuary” jurisdictions.

Kevin De Léon is the guy who introduced Senate Bill 54, which is a bill designed to make California into a "Sanctuary State". So you know what you do? You deport all the illegal aliens in his family, and make a public show of it, and MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HIM.

This bastard openly admits personal knowledge of MULTIPLE FELONIES committed by half of his family members...who use and acquire false social security numbers, false licenses, and false green cards.

Charge him with "Aiding and Abetting a Crime" (Penal Code section 31), since his efforts at personally pushing Senate Bill 54 could be construed as a MASSIVE ethical conflict of interest (on his part).

Target the worst offenders, and take no prisoners.

Blogger Michael Kingswood February 22, 2018 11:37 PM  

@40

"Jerry Brown signed a law that repealed the law making it a crime to use guns in the commission of a crime."

In fairness, that is actually a good thing. Tacking extra penalties onto a crime because it was committed using a gun vice some other tool is Bullshit. Same as tacking extra penalties onto a crime because it was motivated by "hate".

The issue is the crime, not the tool used or the motive for it.

"I hope to be out of this state by July."

You and me both, brother. Unfortunately the ex refuses to leave because weather, which means the kids won't be leaving. So that means NV for me.

Blogger Silly but True February 22, 2018 11:39 PM  

Does Trump get bonus points if he antagonizes NK to point of actually nuking Hawaii or California.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2018 11:44 PM  

Silly but True wrote:Does Trump get bonus points if he antagonizes NK to point of actually nuking Hawaii or California.

Quadruple bonus points if he can get the Norks to nuke both.

Blogger Thucydides February 22, 2018 11:53 PM  

Redeploy ICE and aggressively enforce immigration laws in America. Drive anyone they can't catch into the "Blue" sanctuary cities and counties, and ring them to keep the illegals inside.

Let the Progressives live in the hell they wanted to create for the American people.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2018 12:03 AM  

As a Californian I hate this and love this. Our liberal government and the morons that elect them should pay for their crimes, but there are a lot of use Trump supporters here that would have too suffer too. Not mad at all, and I agree with Trump, but it's a hard pill to swallow for me and my family of conservative Trump supporters. I get it though, Calif needs a cleansing.

Blogger wreckage February 23, 2018 12:26 AM  

It's a waste of resources to send Federal "blood and treasure" to enforce a regime that is openly hostile. California said they don't want enforcement; fine. Remove enforcement. Now California can think about whether they will vote for people who don't want enforcement.... because until now it was a no-brainer; they could have their virtue signalling cake and eat their enforcement too.

Respect the vote. Remove unwanted interference.

Blogger Harambe February 23, 2018 3:06 AM  

If California declares independence, the democrats will never win an election again

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 3:22 AM  

Commiefornians can move to Mexico or join the ex-Mexicans currently enriching that state's native soil.

Blogger Tatooine Sharpshooters' Club February 23, 2018 4:03 AM  

Liberals only learn through intense personal suffering. They literally do not learn any other way.

Plenty of examples of leftoids not even learning from that, like the guy who forgave his immigrant rapist and felt "terrible" that the rapist was deported. Virtue signalling is the only social skill they have, so they can't abandon it even in the most dire straits.

Blogger wreckage February 23, 2018 4:44 AM  

Shrunken amygdala; incapable of aversive learning:
"Similarly, patient SM, whose amygdala has been nearly completely destroyed by a bilateral lesion that spares her hippocampus and neocortex, also exhibits a deficit in conditioned galvanic skin responses, despite displaying verbal recall of the training experience itself (reported by A.R. Damasio at the 24th Annual Meeting of the Society for Neuroscience, Florida, 1994); SM is also severely impaired in her ability to recognize fear in the facial expression of others [15]. Although her intelligence and capacity for explicit memory are near normal, SM also has a remarkably defective history of personal and social decision making [16]."

Blogger Stephen February 23, 2018 5:42 AM  

This was prophesized 22 years ago in the film "Escape From LA" its coming true. Bit of a lefty slant going after Bob Dole but amusing in a cheezy way.

Blogger McChuck February 23, 2018 7:10 AM  

The border with Mexico is shorter than the border with California.
1. Goad California into seceding.
2. Use the military to wipe California clean.
3. Start over. It would be a good place to relocate the Boers.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2018 7:47 AM  

Leave Silicon Valley at the mercy of Mexican drug lords? Do you really want to give the cartels the keys to the internet?

Blogger Not a lefty February 23, 2018 7:49 AM  

Fucking exes. I have the same problem in the Soviet socialist republic of NY. If only this blog and heartiste existed before I married that wreck. So much suffering could have been avoided.

Blogger NeoNietzsche: February 23, 2018 7:54 AM  

@34 " One could argue that we could simply use the Pudget sound, but I suspect Seattle isn't too far behind California in terms of liberalism."

Seattle is full of CALIFORNIANS! I used to have a bumper sticker:

"Welcome to Washington. NOW GO HOME!"

Blogger NeoNietzsche: February 23, 2018 7:56 AM  

@40 "It used to be that if you committed a crime using a gun here, you got hit with extra penalties, because that was also a crime."

Now you only get hit with extra penalties if you're demonstrably on the Right -- or commit a crime against a protected group!

(Funny though, I though Gov Moonbeam hated guns. Maybe the jails are just too full?)

Blogger Durandel February 23, 2018 9:01 AM  

As much as I would hate to lose that beautiful land of CA, it really would be best to kick them out and create major incentives for Libs to leave America and seek refuge in the Socialist State of California. Build a beautiful border wall around it, and let them build their utopia over there while we fix our culture and nation from the rot the Left injected into it. It would be a far better series of events than to have us breakdown into a Balkan-like war.

Blogger Durandel February 23, 2018 9:05 AM  

@34, @59 - yeah, Seattle has been ruined by Californians, as has Denver, Austin, and other places.

One hopes the future learns from this mistake by creating voting restrictions on interstate citizen transfers. Allow for laws that basically ban saying that up to 4 generations of the Californians family lose their voting privileges in their new state, since clearly they come from a people who destroyed their state with their votes.

Blogger Zapp Brannigan February 23, 2018 9:59 AM  

@40

J Van Stry, come to Texas. If you read this blog, you're probably exactly the kind of voter we need more of here. Just got back from visiting my buddy in Austin last weekend and I saw a disquieting number of California and Michigan license plates. I can only hope a sizable percentage of these folks are folks like you who are fed up with the Progressive cancer killing their home states.

Blogger Dirk Manly February 23, 2018 10:21 AM  

Michiganders in Austin are probably from Ann Arbor.
They're not running from the cancer -- they ARE the cancer.

Blogger AaMcavoy February 23, 2018 11:36 AM  

Durandel wrote:@34, @59 - yeah, Seattle has been ruined by Californians, as has Denver, Austin, and other places.


And Salt Lake City.

Blogger DonReynolds February 23, 2018 7:06 PM  

Dirk Manly wrote:Michiganders in Austin are probably from Ann Arbor.

They're not running from the cancer -- they ARE the cancer.


Absolutely, Dirk.....and that includes my SDS Weather Underground ex-wife, who attended Michigan State until she transferred to UT-Austin...then went to UT-Law. She was a rad-lib attorney in Austin until she retired in 2008, just in time to serve as an Obama delegate.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2018 9:24 PM  

Hammerli280 wrote:
My own plan would be to declare California to be in rebellion against the United States.


Is California a sovereign state in a voluntary union, or a rebellious province of an empire? Which choice is better for Americans in the coming decades? If the US is to balkanize, which choice is most likely to lead to a peaceful dissolution of the union?

Blogger Dirk Manly February 26, 2018 5:17 PM  

If California is demanding Fed Gov payments (i.e. money from the 50 states), while deliberately giving the finger to the other 49 states of the union, then they are as much in rebellion as a teenager who demands an allowance (to be spent on illicit drugs and partying) but who refuses to do household chores.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 27, 2018 7:13 AM  

Dirk Manly wrote:If California is demanding Fed Gov payments (i.e. money from the 50 states), while deliberately giving the finger to the other 49 states of the union, then they are as much in rebellion ...

Is that an answer that assuages your immediate irritation, or is it an answer which will set us up to get through what comes next?

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