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Monday, February 05, 2018

Mailvox: the new narrative

What is this, take #6 on the Nunes Memo?
I'm working in DC, and the tiny pieces of the Swamp I get to see are concerned, as are the residents who work here.  The Media is in full "shovel mode".  As an example, WTOP radio (which is owned by Hubbard Broadcasting of KSTP fame) on a daily basis has WaPo, USA Today, NBC/ABC/CBS, etc reporters as guests feverishly pushing the Narrative.  The current drill is that Page wasn't the original target of the Russia investigation, so the Nunes Memo mox nix.  The comedy writes itself.
Yeah, that's not going to work either. They might as well try just shrieking, "Stop looking at the man behind the curtain!" It's kind of funny that they haven't figured out yet that the public now notices a) when they are all singing the same tune and b) collectively change that tune as adroitly and as mindlessly as a school of fish.

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Blogger Koanic February 05, 2018 8:02 AM  

Exactly! SJW behavior is like fish schooling. Apparently guided by malevolent intelligence, but actually an emergent property of very simple rules.

(Being manipulated by a malevolent intelligence.)

Blogger Johnny February 05, 2018 8:19 AM  

I can't use my reaction because I am an outlier, as are a lot of folk here, but lying does seem to be getting really heavy duty. Perhaps we are at the tipping point and the majority gets its. All the scare talk about the tax raise that wasn't would be part of the red pilling.

Blogger Lazarus February 05, 2018 8:20 AM  

Supposedly a memo goes out at 4 a.m. from their handlers to tell them the daily narrative.

Blogger The Kurgan February 05, 2018 8:23 AM  

I can only hope the Gitmo expansion is going full bore and that Mattis has no problem using the armed forces to ship the entirety of the FBI and DOJ there while they let normal citizens comb through their computers to determine who hangs and who gets released.

I know it's utopia. But how awesome would that be.

Blogger GreenEyedJinn February 05, 2018 8:24 AM  

Too funny...Even FactCheck.org has the Dossier Timeline for anybody to review. With the Nunes Memo out, you can walk right down the timeline to understand exactly what happened.

And that's all underscored by the defamation case going on against Christopher Steele in the UK, where Steele's own testimony reveals he personally leaked the "dossier" to the NYT, WaPo, Yahoo!, CNN, and the New Yorker -- all while also working for the FBI. Steele was only dropped as an FBI informant after he revealed his identity in Mother Jones, in October.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/timeline-russia-investigation/

Anonymous Longtime Lurker February 05, 2018 8:26 AM  

Can confirm.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 8:29 AM  

@3 Lazarus

We got that one fairly credible anon post back in Summer of 2017 talking about there being a Narrative Writers Room at one of the big media companies. (I believe it was Time Warner.) They coordinated with the Obama Admin on what they were going to push and rotated around the days they were pushing certain things.

Obviously, when it comes to "breaking" Narratives, they have to get it out early. 4 am really does make sense, as it needs to feed out to the morning shows. And it strikes me that the real Talking Points email list is something Assange must have. It would explain why he has dirt on everyone.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 8:35 AM  

As for the Nunes Memo, it was brilliantly constructed. It's actually extremely narrow, but that makes it easy for a normie to follow. Further, it really only leaves you with more questions to ask, rather than answering all of the questions. It's the perfect "factual bait", as it were. Very Trumpian, I might add.

It's short, straight-forward and points to far, far worse things to come out. Utterly brilliant and the reactions have been great to watch. It's also a "tell" to the Swamp about the horror that is to come there way, since it shows they have the goods on everyone and will be using it. Title 1 FISA warrants take a lot of work, so who ordered it? And what all did they collect? (Also, why? They've apparently been follow Page for 5 years and no charges?)

Come the Riders and Sunder the Swamp.

Blogger Robert Coble February 05, 2018 8:36 AM  

Why are the principals in "the most transparent administration in history" suddenly so concerned about maintaining secrecy about their actions? A whole lot of CYA going on at the top echelons of the Deep Swamp.

Anonymous vfm 0202 February 05, 2018 8:38 AM  

That schooling behavior was my very first clue, in the early 60s. How likely was it that Time and the Reader's Digest would always harmonize?

Blogger peter blandings February 05, 2018 8:45 AM  

"Why are the principals.... suddenly so concerned about maintaining secrecy about their actions? A whole lot of CYA going on at the top echelons of the Deep Swamp."

they needn't bother. nothing is going to come of this. all the info in the memo came out a year ago; there's nothing new here. and nobody was charged then. why would anyone be charged now?

Blogger VD February 05, 2018 8:48 AM  

they needn't bother. nothing is going to come of this. all the info in the memo came out a year ago; there's nothing new here. and nobody was charged then. why would anyone be charged now?

Are you really this stupid or are you just pretending?

Anonymous VFM #3606 February 05, 2018 8:51 AM  

Great logic: why would anything happen now after the fact when nothing happened before the fact?

Blogger Lazarus February 05, 2018 8:55 AM  

@11

As the old saying goes, "What you know and what you can prove are two different things."

Anonymous Poli_Mis February 05, 2018 9:06 AM  

I see impatient advice from all over about how Sessions needs to get off his ass, or Trump should just release X and get it over with, or nothings going to happen ...

The mewling of the stupid or extremely lazy.

There has been no shortage of clues and good explanations why things have been so slow and methodical. Sessions is a stickler for the law (I’ve kin that know the man well) and as Q has said, they are defusing ...knowing which wired to cut and in proper order.

Keep bitching about how nothing will happen. I want to remember your names so I can completely fucking ignore you and all you have to say hence forth.

You’re as bad as the other side.

Anonymous CarpeOro February 05, 2018 9:06 AM  

@11

Got it. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, the all powerful Oz will tell you what you need to know through the NYT.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 05, 2018 9:08 AM  

Schiff is the GE's new target "Leaky Adam Schiff" no doubt now the girlish little man will respond well like a girl and totally meltdown within a week and have to be told to shut up.

Zerohedge or something was running the latest Schiffless conspiracy theory that the 2A is now part of the Russian conspiracy or something.

Anonymous CarpeOro February 05, 2018 9:09 AM  

@15
Agreed. There is a tempo to every song and the dance needs to match it. Move too fast and it turns into chaos that no one will understand and most will lose interest in.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 9:10 AM  

8. Looking Glass

The second memo is supposed to be even more devastating, and as you know, there are five total. A third party is confirming the voter fraud data, according to B. Dilly. Text behind them still exists, and will not be lost. OIG will come out.

I just hope it all comes out, including the child rape and murders, etc. The public needs to know most to prevent reaccurance, and to dig beyond the swamp into Academic World and etc.

Anonymous Crew (not the one who makes stupid claims) February 05, 2018 9:20 AM  

OT, but I notice Hugo Nominations are open again.

Blogger Shimshon February 05, 2018 9:21 AM  

@8 Looking Glass, I also thought the memo was well done. It conveys perfectly clearly to any normie with a high school education that the swamp exists and is very deep.

@19 tuberman, The Anonymous Conservative speculated on Trump's end game. Since it's clear he has no intention to accomodate the swamp, the only real choice for him is to drain it, completely. They can tolerate, even elevate, many dynasties, such as the Bushes, Clintons, Kennedys, and so forth. But it is clear by now that they cannot stomach the possibility of a Trump Dynasty. His genes' mere existence in the gene pool at this point, along with the Trump name, is a mortal threat. He needs to take them out completely, otherwise, anyone related to him will be in danger (far more so than now) come 2025.

Blogger Just Mark February 05, 2018 9:26 AM  

WRT memo one.

As near as I can figure out obstruction of justice and perjury are illegal but induction of injustice and perjury traps are perfectly legal

Why does this whole mess remind me of an elaborate game of heads I win, tails you lose. For playing that game a three year old might throw a temper tantrum. However, a grown man might get a rope.

At least the politicians can console themselves as they wait in line to swing that they did nothing illegal or immoral.

Blogger Koanic February 05, 2018 9:28 AM  

Nothing will happen on the next episode of The Celebrity Appresidentice.

Blogger Nate February 05, 2018 9:38 AM  

You people are such pollyannas. Look... i sincerely hope heads roll over this... but there is not a single hint of a reason to think they will.

its not that the memo was a disappointment in terms of content. Its that the people reading don't understand it. Those who actually bothered to read it at all.

Blogger Zaklog the Great February 05, 2018 9:39 AM  

OT: An article on The Federalist that actually shows some real grasp of today's political dynamics and what President Trump is up to. Who knows, maybe next they'll publish something mildly critical of "diversity".

http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/05/trump-isnt-conservative-thats-good-thing/

Blogger Just Mark February 05, 2018 9:40 AM  

#8 Looking Glasses analysis is brilliant.

#19 Tuberman, Remember the dearth of enthusiasm during Obama's 2012 run. I was convinced by comparing the rallies of Romney and Obama that Romney would win. Likewise in 2016, I hoped Trump would win over Clinton but was less hopeful because of my Romney error. What would happen if in revealing voter fraud we found out that Romney won handily? What if that was just the tip of the iceberg?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 05, 2018 9:42 AM  

The D party faction of the establishment is mockable, hence its legitimacy is in question.

Taunting progtards and cucks into meltdowns should be our national sport, good fun to be had.

Blogger seeingsights February 05, 2018 9:43 AM  

Somewhat off topic: the stock market is going down again.

My take: this is probably the beginning of the long over due correction.

Do not panic. Don't read the headlines from the main stream media. They have an incentive to be sensationlistic. And anti-Trump.

Get the dry powder ready to buy stocks when this dip is done.

Blogger North February 05, 2018 9:44 AM  

As we all learned in school, George Washington only managed to cross the Delaware cause he was towed by spetznaz divers. He intended to establish a communist utopia but the inescapable racism of his whiteness caused him to create this capitalist hellhole that unwittingly draws in the morally superior dark races to be persecuted. Immigration is just like slavery. Only a revolution to free the immigrants, and we're a nation of immigrants, will create the utopia Washington intended.

Now give me six figures and a job at Wapo or NYT. I'd settle for a tenured professorship.

Anonymous Athor Pel February 05, 2018 9:44 AM  

"8. Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 8:35 AM
...
Title 1 FISA warrants take a lot of work, so who ordered it? And what all did they collect? (Also, why? They've apparently been follow Page for 5 years and no charges?)
..."



Domestic national security related surveillance is counter intelligence work. At least it's supposed to be.

It takes a long time to fully develop counter intelligence cases. It isn't just find the mole, or gather enough evidence to convict the mole but also find out what the mole has already revealed and explore the possibility of making the mole a double agent. All that with the bonus of using the watched mole to lead you to other bad actors. And to make the most of that now revealed mole you have to leave him in place which means no arrests, no grand jury, no jury trial, no jail.

In other words it's a normal thing to watch someone for quite a long time without any overt outcome.

At least that's the Tom Clancy level of understanding about the subject.

Anonymous lpdbw February 05, 2018 9:44 AM  

@21: I wonder if it's just a coincidence that George P. Bush is running into a spot of trouble with his campaign financing right about now. Some credible accusations of pay-for-play going on.

I hope he leaves politics and finds honest work. It would be a change for his family, and good for the country.

Blogger Koanic February 05, 2018 9:46 AM  

By the way, that was a joke, implying that there will definitely be scripted and exciting drama for every month of the presidency, and people getting the axe regularly.

Blogger Nobody of Consequence February 05, 2018 9:46 AM  

Ignorance, it's "Macht nichts!"

Blogger Stilicho February 05, 2018 9:54 AM  

The Cluckservative take (Hugh Hewitt) is that none of the named individuals (Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, et al.) would have had any idea what was going on (they are just too busy serving the country!) and that some unknown junior staff mislead them. This is accompanied by decrying the damage to the cozy relationship between the FBI and the FISA court and saying we have to fix the process, this has nothing to do with Mueller's righteous investigation, and can we all just move on. Please? Pretty please? This is making me uncomfortable... pretty please with sugar on top... Damn it, there's no conspiracy here, just a bunch of like-minded individuals who just happen to have similar politics and ties to the candidate behind the fake dossier who just happened to act in the same fashion to these unfortunate circumstances!

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 9:57 AM  

@21 Shimshon

Don jr could probably win Governor of NY pretty easily, a few years after his father retires from being President. Stuff like that is part of what scares them, though what they really fear is actual competence.

Though it does need to be noted they couldn't stomach the Kennedys. They killed two of them.


@19 tuberman

While it needs to come out, for the deeply evil ones, send the Ops Squads and eliminate them first. Then slowly destroy their name & reputation while you release the real dirt. It's much easier to deal with the stuff that'll make your stomach churn when the person is dead.

Nunes himself probably has Memos on each of the major topics. There's at least another FISA Warrant that they used on the Trump campaign, how that was acquired & who was the target, then there is the 702 Search Abuse. Then there is the Rice Unmasking. Plus who were the outside contractors being able to use the NSA databases.

Oh, and the recent FOIA releases on Hillary's servers has the President's Daily Brief (his daily intel summary) being emailed to Hillary's Blackberry. Not the special, NSA ones. No, just a normal Blackberry, on the AT&T network. Completely & utterly unsecured.

Someone should see if Moldova will part with the entire stash of emails for 500k or something. Hillary's Server is starting to make the Purple & Enigma captures look like small potatoes. Every Intelligence Service with 3 local hackers and bigger must have had copies of her emails. The entire f***ing world was getting 1-2 day delayed NSA intercepts.

We should probably start gaslighting the Obama faithful with Hillary's Server caused Obama's FP to fail. And it was completely her fault. She was giving the other team the game plan, every day of the week.

Anonymous ZhukovG February 05, 2018 9:59 AM  

When the history of the 'Rise and Fall of the American Union' is written, 'The Memo' will get its own chapter. Probably in the section entitled 'Trump, The Last President'.

Ad Victoriam, Ave Imperator Trump!

Anonymous LurkingPuppy February 05, 2018 10:04 AM  

Looking Glass wrote:As for the Nunes Memo, it was brilliantly constructed. It's actually extremely narrow, but that makes it easy for a normie to follow. Further, it really only leaves you with more questions to ask, rather than answering all of the questions. It's the perfect "factual bait", as it were. Very Trumpian, I might add.
Very Q-like too. Do you believe in coincidences?

Anonymous Rfvujm February 05, 2018 10:06 AM  

If anyone missed it in the previous post, Ivan Throne did an excellent breakdown of the memo contents: https://darktriadman.com/2018/02/02/the-fbi-memo-in-plain-and-simple-english/

If Stefan Molyneux is your cup of tea, he did a video a little over an hour long on the memo contents. Very comprehensive but it's an hour of video content.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 10:06 AM  

A message to all the alt-retards, and even semi-alt-retards who, as usual are using MSM talking points to concern troll the Right...YOU ARE WRONG.

The slow roll is necessary to prevent deaths of many thousands, and to keep Western Civilization intact. That's obvious. This is for all the marbles to take down the medium level players in the MSM,
FBI, DC in general, the DOJ, HRC, BHO, the Fed Judges who are dirty, etc. The pawns that are not immediately dangerous can be dealt with a little at a time. The DNC is doomed.

You people, (Alt-Retards) cannot see this, as you have an agenda similar to the other Left.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 10:09 AM  

@34 ZhukovG

The Swamp is actually surprisingly "easy" to drain. It's just the whole, "need to hang about 1000 ppl in a weekend" issue. Not that we couldn't get 100k there to do it easily enough, it's just the issues that causes.

In semi-related news, Vox is having a red-letter day.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/7vev6x/ourguy_nunes_gets_it_just_said_whatever_they_dems/

Someone appears to have read the book. "Whatever they (Democrats) accuse you of doing, they are guilty of doing". Memetic attachment, wonderful to see bubble into popular discourse.

"Leaky" has been upgraded to "Little Adam Schiff". I love the mocking naming thing Trump does, especially to the really annoying people.

Anonymous ZhukovG February 05, 2018 10:13 AM  

@Looking Glass: While I hold President Kennedy in comparatively high regard, He made a serious blunder. In his drive for reform and an end to the Cold War, he tried to do to much, to quickly. He alienated everyone but his brother Robert.

President Trump however is moving at a gradual, measured pace, while provoking his opponents to rash, ill considered action. He appears to have developed a strong alliance with the military, rightly, IMO, considering them less dangerous to the public liberty than the 'alphabets'.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 10:14 AM  

Little Adam

Popeye the Schiffty Man
He lived in a garbage Can

Blogger Johnny February 05, 2018 10:18 AM  

"Nunes gets it. Just said "Whatever they (Dems) accuse you of doing, they are guilty of doing". (i.redd.it)

Well, you know, projection. When the criticism of somebody else is not fact based, it is usually self revealing.

Anonymous Viking February 05, 2018 10:20 AM  

It is easiest to simply assume that whatever the media claims, the opposite is probably true. I think they only way they could really fool me at this point would be to start consistently report the truth.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 10:22 AM  

@39 ZhukovG

Kennedy's father made himself one of the Elites, but remember they were Irish Catholics & "New" Money. They where big players in their home region, but, nationally, they didn't know the nature of the Game. Partially because it was rapidly changing, but also because of Kennedy's own personal failings.

And, in classic Sun Tzu style, don't tell your enemy you're going to attack them. That was his second biggest mistake. His first biggest was having LBJ be his VP. It's becoming more & more clear that LBJ might be solely responsible for most of the destruction to happen to the USA in the post-WW2 era.

As for Trump, DoD, DIA and most of the service branches. Trump is riding the wave of history as much as he's a Civilian-Military Coup against the Deep State, which is really what has them on edge. The US Military serving American interests? Can't have that!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 05, 2018 10:23 AM  

Well the normiecons are having a blast with Little Adam Schiff of fertilizer fame.

Lord how I miss the old days, when our garden variety lunatics like Schiff went on Sunday TV and blathered on and on about nonsense only to have the esteemed George Will snug up his bow tie and tell us how serious it all is.

Blogger James Dixon February 05, 2018 10:32 AM  

> What would happen if in revealing voter fraud we found out that Romney won handily?

FWIW, my wife is firmly convinced that's the case, well except possibly for the handily part. I'm not so certain though I will guarantee that fraud played a part.

> My take: this is probably the beginning of the long over due correction.

Almost certainly, though it could be also be the beginning of a bear market.

> The Cluckservative take (Hugh Hewitt) is that none of the named individuals (Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, et al.) would have had any idea what was going on (they are just too busy serving the country!) and that some unknown junior staff mislead them.

Which matters not at all. Their signatures were on the application for the warrant, so they committed perjury.

Blogger wreckage February 05, 2018 10:35 AM  

This needs to be done slowly and methodically. Trump has shown repeatedly that his short-fuse, big-mouth persona is a cover and a tool for a long-game expert.

People shrieking for immediate results are idiots. Ultimately it doesn't matter if the swamp sees prison, as long as its infrastructure is broken. That's what Trump will be looking to achieve.

A sudden superficial victory where one swampling gets scapegoated and sent to prison is the OPPOSITE of a desirable outcome.

What's got the Dems eyes bugging out is Trumps long, slow, deep thrust.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III February 05, 2018 10:36 AM  

>all the info in the memo came out a year ago; there's nothing new here.


Interesting tidbit...

"In the last Harvard CAPS/Harris Poll, we read people a list of recent facts that have come out and almost all of them were unknown to the public, even when prompted. A majority did know that Comey had drafted the memo on the Clinton investigation long before the investigation was over. But most people did not know who paid for the dossier, and most had not heard about the text messages and their reference to an “insurance policy” in case Trump was elected. After hearing this information, 75 percent said it was significant and 63 percent said the FBI needs to be investigated."

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/371962-get-all-the-facts-out-on-the-fbi-justice-department

Anonymous vfm February 05, 2018 10:41 AM  

Trump is going to have to make an example out of a few high up swamp critters...

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III February 05, 2018 10:46 AM  

>upposedly a memo goes out at 4 a.m. from their handlers to tell them the daily narrative.


There was an image on /pol/ the other day of a captured 4 AM tweet, subsequently deleted, from David Rothschild with talking points, later repeated. Apparently, it was supposed to go out via DM rather than public tweet.

Blogger Johnny February 05, 2018 10:48 AM  

Nate wrote:You people are such pollyannas. Look... i sincerely hope heads roll over this... but there is not a single hint of a reason to think they will.

its not that the memo was a disappointment in terms of content. Its that the people reading don't understand it. Those who actually bothered to read it at all.


I take you has half right. Few will read the memo and a lot of them may not appreciate the importance of it. But that is not the same as not important. It appears to be the first in a chain of memos, and that will keep it in the public eye. It ain't just going to go away. And among the people who are important it will have an effect because as more stuff gets revealed, it will set up the possibility of prosecution and that will change behavior. These swamp creatures are not the noble type who will take a needless risk. Thus there will be at least transitory reform and that will give Trump a stronger hand. And the possibility of firings and prosecutions to follow.

Anonymous Whitey Whiteman III February 05, 2018 10:55 AM  

>none of the named individuals (Comey, McCabe, Rosenstein, et al.) would have had any idea what was going on


And, they have conveniently already established that "no intent = no crime" with Hillary.

Anonymous vfm #0202 February 05, 2018 10:55 AM  

It's the O'Keefe gambit:

"Here's the first shot. Do you want to let it do it's oh-so-evil work undermining the Beloved Narrative, or do you want to set yourself up for the next shot?"

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 10:55 AM  

"Every Intelligence Service with 3 local hackers and bigger must have had copies of her emails. The entire f***ing world was getting 1-2 day delayed NSA intercepts."

B. Dilly's drops state that PDJT's people do have all 33,000 e-mails but will likely not come out until much else come out.

Q has stated a number of times that since December 2017 there are "no deals." There were deals being made earlier with some being threatened, and others being blackmailed, but the first year was to bring back those that were salvagable.

"Trump is going to have to make an example out of a few high up swamp critters..."

Oh yes, they do intend to do that, and they have to, as these Globalist cannot come back in any form, simply for any on the Right's survival. The people, including the military, behind Trump know that the complete survival of them, their families, the USA, and Western Civilization is on the line here, so harsh Tribunals will be done.

Anonymous vfm # 0202 February 05, 2018 10:59 AM  

Wreckage, disagree about prison. We need going forward to reinforce the consciences of swamp dwellers with gut clenching Fear. It's our duty to help them.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 10:59 AM  

Most of the "talking points" are sent out by e-mails to all the critical Mockingbird operatives, and it is at 4 AM. The Anons are trying to adjust their memes accordingly.

Blogger Mocheirge February 05, 2018 11:17 AM  

If Sessions weren't doing his job competently, Trump would've fired him. Ergo, Sessions must be doing his job competently. We just don't know exactly what his job is.

Anonymous Krymneth February 05, 2018 11:23 AM  

It is true that those asking for more speed are asking for something counterproductive, but don't discourage them, at least on other sites. It is useful fuel for the train. Counsel patience, but don't stop them or mock them for wanting to see people be punished.

Blogger Johnny February 05, 2018 11:25 AM  

Unless somebody has proof if it I doubt there would be any formal method of sending out talking points, other than perhaps for a very small group. What is easy to believe is that there was a kind of 'wink and nod' method. The old fashioned way was the paper of record, the New York Times. Read the Times and then what you write reflects what was in the paper.

Blogger Jack Amok February 05, 2018 11:27 AM  

The current drill is that Page wasn't the original target of the Russia investigation...

Of course Page wasn't the target, Trump himself was and the original FISA request named Trump, but even the rubber stamps on the FISA court drew the line at giving the current administration permission to wiretap the opposition candidate. So Comey and Crew re-submitted the request, removing Trump's name and replacing it with some minion so the court would say okay.

So if the Swamp is pushing the "Page wasn't the target" meme, they're taking Trump's bait and playing right into his hands.

Do people understand what it all means? Most don't, but Trump is using one of the Left's favorite tactics against them - the constant drip, drip, drip of investigation and scandal. I think he's setting the stage for a preference cascade where tolerating the swamp suddenly goes out of style with enough normies to finally drain the place.

Will it work? Only time will tell.

Anonymous Elder Son February 05, 2018 11:28 AM  

The slow roll is necessary to prevent deaths of many thousands, and to keep Western Civilization intact.

The Globalists, the Deep State, the Shadow Government, the creatures in the Swamp Muck, know that Trump is not the "God Emperor" forever.

Anyone but Hillary and/or the Dems is NOT, Western Civilization. Nor is anyone but Hillary and/or the Dems, normies.

P.S. Western Civilization hasn't been kept in over 120 years. It is but a shadow of its former self. A few grains in the sea of sand.

Enjoy the show while it lasts.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 11:30 AM  

Nope, there are certain key operatives within Mockingbird Media of all sorts, so simply send out e-mails to those key people at 4 AM, and they clue in everybody else. Not hard.

Blogger Resident Moron™ February 05, 2018 11:31 AM  

More than two decades ago the left snd their media mouthpieces were trumpeting the corruption of the FBI for their tactical infiltration of leftist activist groups.

Now these same whores are claiming that this memo will besmirch the reputation of this purely benign agency.

Hmmm ...

Blogger Jack Amok February 05, 2018 11:34 AM  

I see impatient advice from all over about how Sessions needs to get off his ass...

I used to complain about Sessions and want him to get off his ass, but I'll be patient now and see how this plays out.

Damn magnanimous of me, isn't it? As if I had any other choice.

Anonymous Brick Hardslab February 05, 2018 11:39 AM  

I'm hoping something will happen but not expecting it to. With corruption now obvious at every level all I see is the praetorian guard stage of empire.

Blogger VD February 05, 2018 11:43 AM  

Unless somebody has proof if it I doubt there would be any formal method of sending out talking points, other than perhaps for a very small group.

You clearly have not been paying attention. SEVERAL large groups of journalists have been busted for doing precisely that in the last couple of years, including JournoList and GameJournoPros. We even have the complete list of all the journalists on those mailing lists.

You can doubt all you like. That is precisely what they do. That is precisely what hundreds of journalists have been caught doing.

Blogger tuberman February 05, 2018 11:48 AM  

The Tribunal military people are already selected, and have been sitting for over 40 days, and there is 12. Why 12? The Tribunal needs 12 to sit for death sentences.

These are just drops from both Q and Brendan's guy, but both of these are accurate to a large degree, although there has been some lawyer niggling about that, by the usual suspects.

Blogger JohnofAustria February 05, 2018 12:03 PM  

That really won't fly, because there wasn't enough evidence to get a warrant on Papadopoulos, and the info he had was publically available.

Not to mention, all of the Title 1 stuff required showing that Page was a foreign spy. Without that, they have no link from Russia to anything, let alone Trump.

Anonymous JAG February 05, 2018 12:10 PM  

Just Mark wrote:#8 Looking Glasses analysis is brilliant.

#19 Tuberman, Remember the dearth of enthusiasm during Obama's 2012 run. I was convinced by comparing the rallies of Romney and Obama that Romney would win. Likewise in 2016, I hoped Trump would win over Clinton but was less hopeful because of my Romney error. What would happen if in revealing voter fraud we found out that Romney won handily? What if that was just the tip of the iceberg?



No matter how underhanded and conniving you imagine a leftist to be, you will always fall short of reality.

I am certain that proof is coming that Clinton received millions of fraudulent votes that put her over the top of the popular vote totals. I think she really lost that popular vote by several million. That's how much fraud took place.

It won't be a shocker to find out the same for Obama.

Blogger James Dixon February 05, 2018 12:11 PM  

> And, they have conveniently already established that "no intent = no crime" with Hillary.

No, they didn't. The established that *they* wouldn't prosecute. That's not the same thing.

> If Sessions weren't doing his job competently, Trump would've fired him. Ergo, Sessions must be doing his job competently. We just don't know exactly what his job is.

That's been my take for the past few months, yes.

> Enjoy the show while it lasts.

We plan to. I bet you'll wish you could say the same.

> Of course Page wasn't the target,

Right. But permission to wiretap Page meant permission to wiretap the phones at Trump HQ and listen in on everyone.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents February 05, 2018 12:18 PM  

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Israel starts deportation process for 20,000 Africans Rabinette Silverman eager to put them up in someone else's house.

Blogger Jack Amok February 05, 2018 12:26 PM  

Right. But permission to wiretap Page meant permission to wiretap the phones at Trump HQ and listen in on everyone.

Exactly. They tried to get a FISA warrant to tap the Trump Campaign itself earlier that summer, but the court rejected it. So the FBI went back asking for Page instead and not mentioning the campaign. Apparently all the swamp creatures figured that was clever enough to feign innocence. "Oh, no, we weren't wiretapping a presidential campaign! Just one of the campaign staffers..."

Lawyers are clever that way, and they get away with it too, right up until the non-lawyers get tired of the shtick and go all Dick the Butcher on them.

Anonymous Looking Glass February 05, 2018 12:58 PM  

@71 Jack Amok

Well, they were illegally using the normal intercepts to check up on the Trump Campaign until April 2016. Adm. Mike Rodgers, NSA head, got tipped off there was some serious abused and dropped a hammer on the entire system. (It seems they were using some pre-approved Contractors for unapproved operations. Also explains how Hillary was getting extremely quick NSA information.)

Thus, there's a gap from April to October that they probably used some outstanding warrants on Manafort to cover it up, but moved to Page after they devised the Russia Smear. (Which seems to have been settled upon after they lost easy access to the NSA intercepts.) However, the Page warrant let them actively monitor all of the Trump Campaign, even if there's zero ways to construe that as being a valid part of their search.

It's highly likely most of this was Post Hoc legalization, given they needed to give the agents handling a lot of this stuff some DisInfo. Someone might start talking if there isn't some official approval, especially the lower-level agents.

Anonymous FP February 05, 2018 1:14 PM  

Apparently today's talking point memo is this is all a "big nothing burger".

Blogger James Dixon February 05, 2018 1:18 PM  

> Apparently today's talking point memo is this is all a "big nothing burger".

Well, we know from history that Democrats lie under oath all the time. To that extent they are correct.

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:20 PM  

That isn't new; I heard it Friday. It is ridiculous, and won't fly. McCabe is on record saying the dossier evidence was necessary for the warrant, and it's emerging that they pretended Carter Page was an actual spy to bump up the status from Special Secret Surveillance to Super-Duper Special Secret Double Backflip National Security Surveillance.

Blogger Tinidril February 05, 2018 2:32 PM  

The biggest scandal going is the current media's refusal to cover accurately the Watergate of their generation. Their literal collusion to abet corrupt government officials is so blatant it is embarrassing to behold. It is quite something to watch them flail from day to day to "fix" the narrative, explaining away the new facts that don't fit into yesterday's crafted reality. Just like in 1984, down the memory hole yesterday goes!

I hope that as more memos keep coming out, some facts are not going to be negotiable, in other words, the cognitive dissonance dam will burst for people still hoodwinked by the colluding media. I can dream.

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:36 PM  

@17-Schiff is melting down. It's all well and good to warm about possible terror attacks, as he has. That's one of the aces up the sleeve of the "intelligence" "community." But he specifically warned about another OKC. Now, if the FBI or whomever chooses to pull a false flag, and of course digs up a MAGA hat being worn by the perp in a grainy photograph, Schiff will have tipped their hand.

Don't be that specific, fella!

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:41 PM  

@17-I assume that means Russia was funding the NRA, or something. The way I heard it, Schiff said Russians promoted the 2nd amendment in order to get us to shoot eachother. Anyone who knows anything about crime will immediately wonder: since when do feral black youfs care about the Constitution or gun laws? Because those are the ones killing eachother.

But that requires a couple steps of thinking. A while back, they were saying Russia promoted, or pretended to promote, BLM to divide us. Which might have caused a ruckus on the left, which would ask, "You mean to say BLM was dismissive? So you *don't* think black lives matter? Racist!" But that didn't happen, because doublethink.

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:42 PM  

@78-"dismissive" = divisive

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:50 PM  

@29-My feeling is they followed Page as a regular sort of criminal for a while, then suddenly he became an agent of a foreign government, which is to say a spy, when they wanted counterintelligence/national security power/secrecy to spy on Trump. Start the Carter Page, spy" clock in '16, not '13.

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 2:54 PM  

@32-Just serving the country, for instance in Comey's case by holding a national press conference telling us one side of the presidential race is guilty, then virtually clearing her.

If you were an honest civil servant, would you dutifully sign off on the work of underlings seeking a Secret Court Warrant to spy on member of the Opposing Party's Presidential Campaign, without it raising any questions!?!

As if it were some normal thing that happens every day.

Blogger Danby February 05, 2018 2:56 PM  

tublecane wrote:My feeling is they followed Page as a regular sort of criminal for a while, then suddenly he became an agent of a foreign government, which is to say a spy,
Carter Page has never actually been accused of any criminal activity, including spying. And the FBI knows he's not a spy oor agent of the Russian government, because years ago when the Russian government tried to recruit him, he went directly to the FBI and reported it.

Blogger tublecane February 05, 2018 3:30 PM  

Here's an old-favorite talking point I just re as on Twitter:

"Do people realize exactly how many people have to be involved in this wild conspiracy for it to work. You need about 8 or 10 of them committing a felony that could send them to prison for life. Most of them haven't even had parking tickets."

That's a textbook example of how the Big Lie works. I don't know what's funnier: the supposedly unbelievable number of theoretical conspirators being a mere "8 or 10," or the naivete about the innocence of swamp creatures.

"He was a good boy, he dindu nutin. Didn't so much as shoplift before he got jumped into the gang."

Blogger Were-Puppy February 05, 2018 3:57 PM  

@44 Mr.MantraMan
Lord how I miss the old days, when our garden variety lunatics like Schiff
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He may not be so garden variety after all, if he's from this Rothschild bloodline. I haven't figured a way to trace him yet, but the last name is mighty suspicious.

https://infogalactic.com/info/Jacob_Schiff

Anonymous deplorable me February 05, 2018 4:06 PM  

"Do people realize exactly how many people have to be involved in this wild conspiracy for it to work. You need about 8 or 10 of them committing a felony that could send them to prison for life. Most of them haven't even had parking tickets."

And this is why I'm leaning towards destroying the institutions instead of trying to sort the good from the bad. The fact that the people who've been identified thus far are soo blase tells me that the corruption is endemic. Maybe the janitor who started last Tuesday can be saved, but probably not

Blogger Just Mark February 05, 2018 4:11 PM  

Holy Shit, what if some player picked the data off from HRCs server and Blackberry. Someone like Israel. What if the embassy opening in Jerusalem and the defunding of various Islamic organizations was the 2nd part of a deal ... The Trump administration could have all of it. Holy Shit!

Blogger Danby February 05, 2018 4:30 PM  

Just Mark wrote:what if some player picked the data off from HRCs server and Blackberry. Someone like Israel.
See, here I had just assumed Israel had the emails, and that they had voluntarily given them to Trump, because the last thing they want is a Hillary presidency. It's not like Israel is a novice at this sort of thing.

Blogger Thucydides February 05, 2018 5:12 PM  

Imagine the look on the apolitical "normies" when they suddenly realize the "man behind the curtain" was Barrack Obama

Blogger Just Mark February 05, 2018 6:30 PM  

#87 and #88 MPAI, I guess I'm a little slow on the uptake.

Blogger Resident Moron™ February 05, 2018 6:35 PM  

Washington Post, April 18, 2015: "The Justice Department and FBI have formally acknowledged that nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000...the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death...Of those, 14 have been executed or died in prison..."

Read it and weep, swamp scum.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 05, 2018 9:18 PM  

"Do people realize exactly how many people have to be involved in this wild conspiracy for it to work. You need about 8 or 10 of them committing a felony that could send them to prison for life.
Sounds EXACTLY like Medved.

Anonymous Gen. Kong February 05, 2018 9:37 PM  

As someone noted above, the memo is merely the opening shot of what could be a very long battle. Also noted above, dealing with a Deep State which is so completely criminal is not unlike defusing a very dangerous bomb. They have already no doubt murdered hundreds of people and they will gladly murder millions if they have the opportunity. Doing things in the wrong order can result in things blowing up in a very destructive way.

The Deep State is not going to simply surrender. Decapitating them rapidly at the wrong time could very well plunge the country into a hot and very ugly civil war, which the swamp-side (SJWs, illegal invaders, antifa, BLM, etc.) is already engaged in at an low level with much cheering and aid from cucks, badge-gang oafcuckers, Judeo-Christians, etc. Yes there are even some who claim to be 'alt-right' who may well be working for the other side (Jason Kessler, for example). Thus the need for 'cutting one wire at a time'. There's also the MPAI factor - and plain old normalcy bias. As noted by Whitey, the numbers who are completely unaware of what's going on are substantial - despite the fact that the (((fake news))) is no longer the only source of information out there. If this is all true - and we now have more reason to believe than ever that it all is - Trump deserves much praise for trying to minimize the possible destruction.

Blogger Jack Amok February 06, 2018 12:25 AM  

It's highly likely most of this was Post Hoc legalization, given they needed to give the agents handling a lot of this stuff some DisInfo. Someone might start talking if there isn't some official approval, especially the lower-level agents.

That's a good point. After 7+ years of Obama's crew running it, they were probably reasonably confident about the loyalties of the higher-ups, but the farther down the chain you go, the less sure you could be someone didn't have a secret longing for a MAGA hat. And then the one-step-up guys, you gotta worry about them realizing they have enough authority to get in real trouble but not enough influence to get bailed out, if anything went public.

Spend any time around people like the Clintons, Podestas and Obungles, and most people would be looking to stash away some "insurance" of their own. Be interesting to see if any of their cronies cash in an insurance policy or two.

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