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Friday, February 23, 2018

The Broward County cover-up

At least part of the police cover-up of the recent school shooting at Douglas is related to the way in which the County Sheriff and School Superintendent are trying to hide their corrupt scheme to NOT enforce the law when faced with more criminal behavior by students than their monthly crime quota will permit. The Last Refuge explains:
I spent about 18 months in 2012, 2013 and 2014 investigating Broward and Miami-Dade school policies and how those policies transfer to law enforcement practices. My interest was initially accidental.  I discovered an untold story of massive scale and consequence as a result of initial research into Trayvon Martin and his High School life.

What I stumbled upon was a Broward County law enforcement system in a state of conflict.  The Broward County School Board and District Superintendent, entered into a political agreement with Broward County Law enforcement officials to stop arresting students for crimes. The motive was simple.  The school system administrators wanted to "improve their statistics" and gain state and federal grant money for improvements therein. So police officials, the very highest officials of law enforcement (Sheriff and Police Chiefs), entered into a plan.

As soon as Miami-Dade began to receive the benefits (political and financial) from the scheme, Broward County joined on.  The approach in Broward was identical as the approach in Miami-Dade. It's important to remember, this was not an arbitrary change - this was a well-planned fundamental shift in the entire dynamic of how teenagers would be treated when they engaged in criminal conduct.

The primary problem was the policy conflicted with laws; and over time the policy began to create outcomes where illegal behavior by students was essentially unchecked by law enforcement. Initially the police were excusing misdemeanor behaviors.  However, it didn't take long until felonies, even violent felonies (armed robberies, assaults and worse) were being excused. The need to continue lowering the arrests year-over-year meant that increasingly more severe unlawful behavior had to be ignored.  Over time even the most severe of unlawful conduct was being filtered by responding police.

We found out about it, when six cops blew the whistle on severe criminal conduct they were being instructed to hide.  The sheriff and police Chiefs were telling street cops and school cops to ignore ever worsening criminal conduct. The police were in a bind.  They were encountering evidence of criminal conduct and yet they had to hide the conduct. There were examples of burglary and robbery where the police had to hide the recovered evidence in order to let the kids get away without reports.

The police would take the stolen merchandise and intentionally falsify police records to record stolen merchandise *as if* they just found it on the side of the road. They put drugs and stolen merchandise in bags, and sent it to storage rooms in the police department.  Never assigning the recovery to criminal conduct.  Stolen merchandise was just sitting in storage rooms gathering dust.

They couldn't get the stuff back to the victim because that would mean the police would have to explain how they took custody of it.  So they just hid it.  To prove this was happening one of the officers told me where to look, and who the victim was.

At first I didn't believe them.  However, after getting information from detectives, cross referencing police reports, and looking at the "found merchandise", I realized they were telling the truth. A massive internal investigation took place and the results were buried.  Participating in the cover-up were people in the media who were connected to the entire political apparatus. The sheriff and police chief could always deny the violent acts (assaults, rapes, beatings etc.) were being ignored; that's why the good guys in the police dept gave the evidence of the stolen merchandise.  That physical evidence couldn't be ignored and proved the scheme.

From 2012 though 2018 it only got worse.  In Broward and Miami-Dade it is almost impossible for a student to get arrested.  The staff within the upper levels of LEO keep track of arrests and when a certain number is reached all else is excused.

Well it didn't take long for criminal gangs in Broward and Miami-Dade to realize the benefit of using students for their criminal activities. After all, the kids would be let go... so organized crime became easier to get away with if they enlisted high-school kids. As criminals became more adept at the timing within the offices of the officials, they timed their biggest crimes to happen after the monthly maximum arrest quota was made.

The most serious of armed robberies etc. were timed for later in the month or quarter.  The really serious crimes were timed in the latter phases of the data collection periods.  This way the student criminals were almost guaranteed to get away with it. Now.  You can see how that entire process gets worse over time.  Present corruption (the need to hide the policy) expands in direct relationship to the corruption before it.   This is where the School Police come into play.

Understanding the risk behind the scheme, it became increasingly important to put the best corrupt cops in the schools.  *BEST* as in *SMARTEST*.  Those SRO's became the ones who were best at hiding the unlawful conduct. Again, over time, the most corrupt police officers within the system became the police inside the schools.  These officers were those who are best skilled at identifying the political objectives and instructions.

Those "School Cops" also have special privileges.  It's a great gig.  They get free "on campus" housing close to the schools they are assigned to etc.  They're crooked as hell and the criminal kids how just how to play them.  It's a game. Also an open secret.  A lot of it came out during an earlier *internal affairs* investigation. Unfortunately the behavior never changed because the politics never changed.  It's still going on. For years this has been happening and no-one cared.  Crimes happen; students excused; victims ignored; etc.  The Broward County School and Law Enforcement system is designed to flow exactly this way.  It's politics.

Only then a Parkland school shooting happened.  For Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel this had to be an "oh shit" moment; but not for the reasons the media initially thought. If people start digging, they'll discover the shooter was one of those previously excused students. The same sentiment applies for Sheriff Scott's partner, School Superintendent Robert Runcie (previously from Chicago)....  things are very risky if people start digging.
Forget the occasional school shooter. The much more serious danger is from the corrupt police and the criminals they enable. And you're going to disarm yourself and count on those corrupt clowns to protect you? That would be absolutely insane!

UPDATE: The Broward County school shootings also look increasingly like another false flag. Quelle surprise.

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132 Comments:

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 11:02 AM  

How long will it take Trump to catch on to all of this? The resulting shitstorm would be fucking epic.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 11:07 AM  

well that certainly explains the 39 visits to the Cruz house without an arrest

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 11:08 AM  

the problem with the narrative of course is that Cruz was no longer a student and therefore they would be free at that point to throw him in jail and throw away the key without disrupting their scheme. And they didn't do that.

Blogger Stilicho February 23, 2018 11:16 AM  

"To Corrupt and Swerve"

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 11:17 AM  

Sundance Twitter:
2. I spent about 18 months in 2012, 2013 and 2014 investigating Broward and Miami-Dade school policies and how those policies transfer to law enforcement practices.
3. My interest was initially accidental. I discovered an untold story of massive scale and consequence as a result of initial research into Trayvon Martin and his High School life.
4. What I stumbled upon was a Broward County law enforcement system in a state of conflict. The Broward County School Board and District Superintendent, entered into a political agreement with Broward County Law enforcement officials to stop arresting students for crimes.
5. The motive was simple. The school system administrators wanted to "improve their statistics" and gain state and federal grant money for improvements therein.
6. So police officials, the very highest officials of law enforcement (Sheriff and Police Chiefs), entered into a plan.
7. As soon as Miami-Dade began to receive the benefits (political and financial) from the scheme, Broward County joined on. The approach in Broward was identical as the approach in Miami-Dade.
8. It's important to remember, this was not an arbitrary change - this was a well-planned fundamental shift in the entire dynamic of how teenagers would be treated when they engaged in criminal conduct.
9. The primary problem was the policy conflicted with laws; and over time the policy began to create outcomes where illegal behavior by students was essentially unchecked by law enforcement.
10. Initially the police were excusing misdemeanor behaviors. However, it didn't take long until felonies, even violent felonies (armed robberies, assaults and worse) were being excused.
11. The need to continue lowering the arrests year-over-year meant that increasingly more severe unlawful behavior had to be ignored. Over time even the most severe of unlawful conduct was being filtered by responding police.
12. We found out about it, when six cops blew the whistle on severe criminal conduct they were being instructed to hide. The sheriff and police Chiefs were telling street cops and school cops to ignore ever worsening criminal conduct.
13. The police were in a bind. They were encountering evidence of criminal conduct and yet they had to hide the conduct. There were examples of burglary and robbery where the police had to hide the recovered evidence in order to let the kids get away without reports.
14. The police would take the stolen merchandise and intentionally falsify police records to record stolen merchandise *as if* they just found it on the side of the road.
15. They put drugs and stolen merchandise in bags, and sent it to storage rooms in the police department. Never assigning the recovery to criminal conduct. Stolen merchandise was just sitting in storage rooms gathering dust.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 11:19 AM  

(cont)
16. They couldn't get the stuff back to the victim because that would mean the police would have to explain how they took custody of it. So they just hid it. To prove this was happening one of the officers told me where to look, and who the victim was.
17. At first I didn't believe them. However, after getting information from detectives, cross referencing police reports, and looking at the "found merchandise", I realized they were telling the truth.
18. A massive internal investigation took place and the results were buried. Participating in the cover-up were people in the media who were connected to the entire political apparatus.
19. The sheriff and police chief could always deny the violent acts (assaults, rapes, beatings etc.) were being ignored; that's why the good guys in the police dept gave the evidence of the stolen merchandise. That physical evidence couldn't be ignored and proved the scheme.
20. From 2012 though 2018 it only got worse. In Broward and Miami-Dade it is almost impossible for a student to get arrested. The staff within the upper levels of LEO keep track of arrests and when a certain number is reached all else is excused.
21. Well it didn't take long for criminal gangs in Broward and Miami-Dade to realize the benefit of using students for their criminal activities. After all, the kids would be let go... so organized crime became easier to get away with if they enlisted high-school kids.
22. As criminals became more adept at the timing within the offices of the officials, they timed their biggest crimes to happen after the monthly maximum arrest quota was made.
23. The most serious of armed robberies etc. were timed for later in the month or quarter. The really serious crimes were timed in the latter phases of the data collection periods. This way the student criminals were almost guaranteed to get away with it.
24. Now. You can see how that entire process gets worse over time. Present corruption (the need to hide the policy) expands in direct relationship to the corruption before it. This is where the School Police come into play.

25. Understanding the risk behind the scheme, it became increasingly important to put the best corrupt cops in the schools. *BEST* as in *SMARTEST*. Those SRO's became the ones who were best at hiding the unlawful conduct.
26. Again, over time, the most corrupt police officers within the system became the police inside the schools. These officers were those who are best skilled at identifying the political objectives and instructions.
27. Those "School Cops" also have special privileges. It's a great gig. They get free "on campus" housing close to the schools they are assigned to etc. They're crooked as hell and the criminal kids how just how to play them. It's a game. Also an open secret.
28. A lot of it came out during an earlier *internal affairs* investigation. Unfortunately the behavior never changed because the politics never changed. It's still going on:
29. For years this has been happening and no-one cared. Crimes happen; students excused; victims ignored; etc. The Broward County School and Law Enforcement system is designed to flow exactly this way. It's politics.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 11:20 AM  

(ore cont.)
30. Only then a Parkland school shooting happened. For Broward County Sheriff Scott Israel this had to be an "oh shit" moment; but not for the reasons the media initially thought. If people start digging, they'll discover the shooter was one of those previously excused students
31. The same sentiment applies for Sheriff Scott's partner, School Superintendent Robert Runcie (previously from Chicago),.... things are very risky if people start digging.
32. Follow a simple timeline: 2011/2012 Broward County School administration made a policy decision to block the arrests of students in order to improve their education statistics.33. 2013/2014 - Praise for the program:
34. 2017 - The program continues. Still chasing year-over-year reductions. Worse and worse crimes being excused.
35. 2018 - Parkland School Shooting. 17 dead. Political cop (SRO) cowered from shooter; now retiring. School board wondering 'what went wrong'.
Entirely predictable.
36. I will give testimony, provide names, outline dates, and give all prior records to any lawyer for use in a wrongful death lawsuit – so long as their intent would be to financially ruin the entire system and personally bankrupt the participants.
37. End//

Blogger Stilicho February 23, 2018 11:23 AM  

Guess who is typically tasked with investigating this type of public corruption: the FBI (where Camera Hogg's daddy works...). Florida governor is a pro gun control cuck, so don't expect him to allow an investigation either.

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 11:26 AM  

I am shocked beyond belief that government officials would lie and break the law to feather their own nest. Who has ever heard of such a thing?

In other news, some bright boy comes up with the phrase "regulatory capture" to describe things like the corruption between government and big Pharma.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 11:29 AM  

Wait until the whole crap hits the fan with this stuff, and I believe it goes even deeper then this Sundance material, but this is enough.

Blogger #7139 February 23, 2018 11:29 AM  

...the County Sheriff and School Superintendent are trying to hide their corrupt scheme...
If this is true, burn them at the stake with unquenchable fire.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 23, 2018 11:31 AM  

This is why we get the squid ink of gun control, look squirrel.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 11:34 AM  

A fish rots from the head.

Federal Reserve -> reckless deficit spending -> perverse financial incentives reorganize society -> epic corruption

Blogger pyrrhus February 23, 2018 11:34 AM  

This explains Trayvon Martin's kid gloves treatment as well....And they couldn't arrest Cruz (even if they wanted to) because then the previous history of ignoring criminality might come out. Of course, I am by no means convinced that Cruz is anything but a mind controlled fall guy, given the statements of numerous students.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 11:36 AM  

9. markstoval

There's a difference between us suspecting corruption, and proof being displayed. So why are you MAKING SMALL OF THE PROOF?? What is your motive? That's what the left says, "It's all normal, nothing to see here, Nothing Burger." So why are you suggesting this? Evidence is not your hunch. Got that, Sundance has proof!

Blogger Dave February 23, 2018 11:37 AM  

An incredible story. The Last Refuge spent thousand$ amassing this information and attempting to shine a light on the corruption and cover-up.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 23, 2018 11:39 AM  

The first day statement of VD is more prescient or relevant than all the other, "Americans will give up their schools before they give up their guns."

Blogger Gavin B. February 23, 2018 11:47 AM  

Follow up that with this guy's thread (assuming it's legit) - https://twitter.com/JohnBouchell/status/966396341877342208

This is Hollywood conspiracy theory level stuff. Hard to wrap my head around.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2018 11:47 AM  

Nate wrote:the problem with the narrative of course is that Cruz was no longer a student and therefore they would be free at that point to throw him in jail and throw away the key without disrupting their scheme. And they didn't do that.


Could they do that without implicating students, or themselves? If they could, why bother?

Blogger Howard Stone February 23, 2018 11:50 AM  

CNN et all must have a live shooter response team. As soon as reports go out the team goes to work. I wonder who their go to screen printer is.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 11:51 AM  

Trump isn't going to blow the lid on this. He is to busy talking about violence in video games. Jesus for someone that is supposed to smart he is a damn moron. Or maybe it's just the baby boomer oming out

Blogger John Sixth February 23, 2018 11:56 AM  

No previous reports existed on purpose. What are they going to arrest him on at 19 if there's no record of problems prior?

Of course, if they had followed the law and arrested Cruz for his crimes earlier in life he never would have passed a background check to buy a gun to shoot up a school with. Oops.

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 11:59 AM  

"Trump isn't going to blow the lid on this. He is to busy talking about violence in video games."

Trump says stuff that pops into his head, like "oh yeah we should look into that". Guys like you treat it as gospel. Even 4chan isn't bothering with the videogame statement.

Blogger John Sixth February 23, 2018 12:00 PM  

Im sure you are right but they dont wait fir reports. Twice that active shooter response team has shown up To knife attacks rallying witnesses to decry gun control.

Funniest shit ever. Fake news indeed.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 12:02 PM  

Anyone who thinks Trump needs to blow the lid off all of this, is incredibly stupid about how everything works. It will be Sundance and the chans with their memes who will blow the lid off of this. Within 2-3 days many millions will know the better part of this and that it is valid.

It is US that will blow the lid off this, as it is the right optics.

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 12:03 PM  

Exactly. There's no false flag. It's just legal for PoC's to do stuff to white people that doesn't drop a body.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:07 PM  

Yes yes... Trump says amazingly stupid shit and we should ignore it. Because Trump. I suppose the bump stock thing just popped into his head to right?

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:07 PM  

Damn you people are intellectually dishonest as hell.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 12:08 PM  

It is the population following the Truth that grips the spear, the God Emperor is just the tip.

Blogger James February 23, 2018 12:08 PM  

I was banned from commenting at Conservative Treehouse because I used the word pigs, in jest, to refer to the performance of the Las Vegas police and sheriff's department after the "massacre". Apparently, they are very cuckservative when people comment about law enforcement. Somehow, we are supposed to ignore the increasing pattern of corruption in law enforcement personnel because it might "hurt the feelings" of good cops. My take on it is the same as Chris Rocks on n*ggers. There are n*ggers and there are good blacks. There are pigs and there are good cops. There are jihadists and there are "good" muslims. They all need to police themselves if they don't want to be criticized.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 12:10 PM  

Actually banning videogames of any kind would be stupid. Blaming violent video games to take away some pressure to enact gun control is potentially brilliant.

Blogger Lance E February 23, 2018 12:16 PM  

Combining this with the comments from the Last Refuge, it looks to me as though it wasn't precisely a false flag, but rather that the police/FBI - in concert with various activist groups and politicians - knew that this was going to happen, when it was going to happen, and allowed (or possibly even encouraged) it to happen so they could run with their prepared narrative.

Reducing arrests was all about money. Why not make some extra money on the side by allowing outside interests to publicize and politicize a major crime?

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:23 PM  

Noah... Shut up.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 12:23 PM  

At a minimum, CNN scripted their entire townhall well in advance. They were waiting to pounce wherever the next shooting happened. The FBI's rapid response sounds strange but makes more sense in light of the fact that one student is the son of an FBI agent. And eyewitnesses are notoriously unreliable even when they haven't experienced any sort of trauma.

Blogger Jack Amok February 23, 2018 12:25 PM  

Damn you people are intellectually dishonest as hell.

Merely adapted to a bat-shit crazy world. But I understand you Nate. I shake my head a lot too. I just keep tellin' myself "it'll come out alright in the end. Or it won't. Be ready either way."

But the gun grabbers are sure pulling out all the stops on this one. Financial outfits now in on it, pressuring the NRA. I wonder if the goal of this false flag wasn't to take down the NRA?

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 12:27 PM  

Nate, if Trump actually bans any firearm accessory, raises the age to buy any sort of weapon, or bans any video game, I will no longer support him. But I don't care what he says as long as he's actually moving us in the right direction.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 12:28 PM  

Yep, JohnnyBravo is great, and his info is just short of proving this is a FF, by just a smidgen. He connect many dots. Now how many slider shills will slide this onto unimportant topics? Hmm?

Broward County corruption is vastly important, and misdirection and sliding isn't going to stop this momentum.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2018 12:29 PM  

Nate wrote: I suppose the bump stock thing just popped into his head to right?

Probably. Why would you doubt it? If he wanted to fake out the Left, or if he was just cucking in a weak moment, why would you be surprised if that was what popped into his head?

Faking or cucking, don't look at what Trump says, look at what he does. He hasn't banned anything yet, and he hasn't backed himself into a corner from which he must ban something.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 23, 2018 12:32 PM  

Conservatives are the baby birds of the political world, jeez Trump has the fastest most effective OODA loop of anyone we have ever seen out of GOP Washington Generals.

He's already panned the Broward Coward, defended the NRA and has looked like a leader so much so that the normies are giving him a 50% approval rating.

Now that the CTH (good job normie cons) work is going forward I'll bet the GE will use it.

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 12:32 PM  

I am pretty sure Trump learned from running The Apprentice to talk both sides to heat the boardroom fight to hype ratings.

It's about as 4D chess as a cockfight organizer.

Blogger Dave W. February 23, 2018 12:33 PM  

I live in Broward County. I'm utterly unsurprised by allegations of corruption in local government. Pretty much all of local government, including the Sheriff's Office, is Democrat-controlled. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's district is in Broward, and it's considered a safe district for her. One of the recent Dem Sheriffs, Ken Jenne, went to federal prison on corruption charges.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 23, 2018 12:33 PM  

Nate you by chance going to make it to a Max Velocity Training HEAT class anytime soon?

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:33 PM  

"Probably. Why would you doubt it? If he wanted to fake out the Left, or if he was just cucking in a weak moment, why would you be surprised if that was what popped into his head?"

You moron. He has been pounding the bump stock thing for days. It didn't just pop into his head. No one was talking about bump stocks until he brought it up. And he has directed DOJ to figure out how to ban them.

And yes.... that's very bad... because the only to ban them is to completely redefine automatic. And yes... that's very very bad.

The man is falling apart. He is handling this about as badly as it could be handled.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:36 PM  

"Nate you by chance going to make it to a Max Velocity Training HEAT class anytime soon?"

No. I've been through several defensive handgun classes as well as combat handgun, combat shotgun, and defensive rifle classes. its been a while. Time is limited right now. I'm stretched pretty thin from all the stuff going on. but there is rumor of some training in new mexico. May do that.

Blogger VD February 23, 2018 12:37 PM  

The man is falling apart. He is handling this about as badly as it could be handled.

I would have thought you would have learned to stop underestimating Trump by now.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 12:38 PM  

Falling apart? Please. Don't go NeverTrump on me, buddy .

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 12:39 PM  

Well, the chans are mostly in an excellent mood about all of this a couple hours ago, almost celebrating.

Trump Trolls the left.

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 12:44 PM  

"No one was talking about bump stocks until he brought it up."

It was all over the media after Las Vegas. First time I'd heard about bump stocks. Go take a nap, you can dream of the Cruz presidency that never was.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:45 PM  

"I would have thought you would have learned to stop underestimating Trump by now."

Dude. what has he done?

We have a good supreme court justice. That's good. We got a completely par-for-the-course GOP tax cut bill that would've been passed and supported by any generic republican. Oh... and WE STILL DON'T HAVE A WALL.

Blogger Dangeresque February 23, 2018 12:46 PM  

Watched this video almost three years ago now about the FBI on the record basically going out of its way to create these incidents. Even more relevant now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGG97dDfZ7E

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:46 PM  

"Falling apart? Please. Don't go NeverTrump on me, buddy ."

oh fuck off. this has nothing to do with never trump. I want the guy to be brilliant. I want him to succeed wildly.

But when the dude is acting like a bumbling idiot... I'm gonna say hey... stop acting like a bumbling idiot.

The man is not infallible and idiotic hero worship doesn't benefit him.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 12:46 PM  

One president with a non English name is enough for me. Cruz....no.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 12:48 PM  

"It was all over the media after Las Vegas."

las vegas was 5 months ago ya moron. The bump stock talk was dead. The bills were dead and going no where. no one had mentioned bump stocks in months.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 12:48 PM  

I'm not saying he's infallible. I'm saying you need to use that 150 redneck IQ of yours and realize that he could be trolling.

Blogger Chris Mallory February 23, 2018 12:49 PM  

There are now lawsuits being filed alleging cover up and malfeasance by the judge in the Marshall County Kentucky shooting.
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/02/22/filing-alleges-judge-held-secret-meeting-considers-sending-shooting-suspect-back-juvenile-court/

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/2018/02/20/court-filing-accuses-judge-misconduct-marshall-county-hs-shooting/

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2018 12:49 PM  

Nate wrote:No one was talking about bump stocks until he brought it up. And he has directed DOJ to figure out how to ban them.

Trump may be cucking, or he may be jiving. Did he direct Sessions to ban bump stocks, or did he direct Sessions to prove that he can't ban bump stocks, or did he direct Sessions to set up a case for banning guns that the Supremes can't duck and the government can't win?

Don't answer based on what has been made public, tell me the direction that Trump privately gave Sessions. From your air of certainty, you must know about that private discussion, right?

Yes, Trump may be pushing gun control, and we will have to dump him in 2020 if he goes there. Either way, we need to hold Trump's feet to the fire on this issue. Either way, don't be surprised if there is a lot of whipsawing between now and 2020 - that's how Trump operates.

Blogger Mr. Naron February 23, 2018 12:56 PM  

"the problem with the narrative of course is that Cruz was no longer a student and therefore they would be free at that point to throw him in jail and throw away the key without disrupting their scheme. And they didn't do that."

He wasn't exactly expelled. He had been moved to a school within the district for students with mental issues.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/parkland/florida-school-shooting/fl-florida-school-shooting-school-trouble-20180220-story.html

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 12:57 PM  

49. Nate

It's simply not about what you want, and most people will see this outing of Broward County corruption and many other things (voter fraud checks going on from three different sources, the first to come out in mid-March)Stopping all kinds of anti-USA business regs, and in fact, rolling them back, not Climate Change BS, the tax bill, etc.

Idea, go out and riot with the Left when they charge. Test his resolve.

Blogger VD February 23, 2018 12:58 PM  

Dude. what has he done?

What every other previous president feared to do. He also avoided war with Russia. Resisted the amnesty pressure. Travel ban. Best president of the 20th or 21st century so far.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 1:01 PM  

I did send PDJT a Tweet saying "No, no gun control, not one inch."

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 1:03 PM  

"las vegas was 5 months ago ya moron."

Trump said something stupid 5 months ago too. Guess what? The world moved on. Just like everyone else will move on next week when he stops talking about bump stocks and the gun laws aren't changed. Learn pattern recognition, it helps.

And don't call me a moron, cunt.

Blogger Peaceful Poster February 23, 2018 1:08 PM  

Dude, what has he done?

Besides the tax cuts and judges which you mentioned:

Repealed Individual Mandate
Historic reduction in immigration
Crushed ISIS
Deregulation
VA reforms
TPP

I could go on but, for me, the most important thing he's done is boost the morale of those of us on the right, if not the entire nation.


Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 1:09 PM  

This Broward County corruption is huge, and it will really stick it to the Left. It is a proven example of what happens when the Left runs a complete system. This will have a strong effect on many normie parents as the Left is committing all out efforts into this. The more they put into this, the more they lose.

Blogger Looking Glass February 23, 2018 1:10 PM  

Just today, Trump was needling the Left over DACA. He took the optimal game theoretic approach of going full Chad Machiavellian. That required literally months of playing the topic in a very specific way, with a very specific end game, to extract the most political value from something for which there was never going to be a bill.

Trump knows guns are an actual 3rd rail in politics, and he also knows how to rile up his base a bit. Lot of energy, suddenly, on the right. Right in time for the Primaries. Funny, that.

Trump will offer up "solutions" that are Center, Squish or Left-of-Center when he knows the Dems can never agree and it forces a response from his own base. The point is to push the Dems off the cliff into pure Leftism. Bunch of Red State Democratic Senators up for re-election this year. Shame if we're talking "Gun Control" during those general elections.

Trump is an apex Alpha, with the full dark triad traits. He, however, lacks the cynicism of most of the modern culture. He uses all of that to his advantage. That's also why he gets the benefit of the doubt, and, at the same time, we need to voice displeasure with certain issues.

Blogger Nate February 23, 2018 1:10 PM  

"And don't call me a moron, cunt."

you're a moron regardless of if it is stated overtly or not. You call yourself a moron with every uninformed idiotic sentence. Suck the man's balls all you like. Just don't tell me it doesn't make you a faggot.

Blogger Looking Glass February 23, 2018 1:11 PM  

@63 tuberman

Since this will tie into DWS, local voter fraud and the Awans, there's a lot more going on with this can people realize.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 1:13 PM  

"Don't call me a moron, cunt"

"I swear if you guys call me little bitch 15 or 20 more times..."

Blogger Patrick Kelly February 23, 2018 1:20 PM  

Any verification from something other than twitter feeds?

I believe this stuff is possible, but "some guy on twitter claims.." is not exactly strong evidence of anything.

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 1:21 PM  

If Trump is talking about banning bump stocks, I expect somehow mysteriously for more Americans to wind up owning full-auto machine guns, with Democrats curiously silent about it.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 1:21 PM  

40. Koanic

"It's about as 4D chess as a cockfight organizer."

Moar MSM talking points, as in Trump is a stupid hick.

You should really hang out on 8 chan for several weeks before spouting nonsense. There are all sorts of things going on in between the lines with everything the God Emperor does, and the chan people are getting better at reading him, and now catch about half of it, and perhaps more. Some of the messages are to the chan people, some to the NWO enemies, some to specific enemies, some to his operatives, etc.

"Everything has meaning," but "Disinformation is necessary."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2018 1:22 PM  

Looking Glass wrote:Trump will offer up "solutions" that are Center, Squish or Left-of-Center when he knows the Dems can never agree and it forces a response from his own base. The point is to push the Dems off the cliff into pure Leftism. Bunch of Red State Democratic Senators up for re-election this year. Shame if we're talking "Gun Control" during those general elections.

Funny how the more Trump says stupid, career-ending stuff, the more Dem careers end.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 1:33 PM  

See that's the thing, at a certain point the God Emperor throws the ball into the congresscritters court and says, "Do something?" Timing is everything.

Blogger YIH February 23, 2018 1:33 PM  

God Emperor knows what's up: Trump Knocks Sheriff's Deputy Who Stayed Outside Florida School Shooting As A 'Coward'.

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 1:43 PM  

"you're a moron regardless of if it is stated overtly or not. You call yourself a moron with every uninformed idiotic sentence. Suck the man's balls all you like. Just don't tell me it doesn't make you a faggot."

Gamma rage.

Blogger Matthew February 23, 2018 1:44 PM  

Everyone should remember, forever, that Nate actually believed Trump ran for president, but didn't really want to win.

Nothing Nate says in this area is worth listening to.

Blogger Matthew February 23, 2018 1:44 PM  

He's out of his element.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 1:46 PM  

You moron. He has been pounding the bump stock thing for days. It didn't just pop into his head. No one was talking about bump stocks until he brought it up.

Our pals in the NRA leadership were the ones who floated the idea of a bump stock ban after Las Vegas. (Thanks assholes.)

Koanic's comparison of Trump to a cockfight organizer is fitting, and Trump has already pivoted away from gun control to proposing that we arm teachers.

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 1:46 PM  

> Moar MSM talking points

If you stopped listening to kikes, your reading comprehension would improve.

> You should really hang out on 8 chan for several weeks before spouting nonsense.

I really shouldn't.

Blogger VD February 23, 2018 1:49 PM  

Settle down, sports. Try to remember that nothing you say will actually influence events.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 1:51 PM  

I just figured Nate's having a bad day. I'm picturing him out of Makers, his sister left him for his younger brother, and his iPhone battery is dead.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 23, 2018 1:56 PM  

@27 Nate
Yes yes... Trump says amazingly stupid shit and we should ignore it. Because Trump. I suppose the bump stock thing just popped into his head to right?
---

Stay on his ass before he reverts back into yankee ways!

Blogger Were-Puppy February 23, 2018 1:58 PM  

@31 Noah B The Savage Gardener
Actually banning videogames of any kind would be stupid. Blaming violent video games to take away some pressure to enact gun control is potentially brilliant.
---

I can't even believe this topic is coming up. What next, going to blame Judas Priest for something again?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 2:03 PM  

If video games are banned, I will be screaming for vengeance.

Blogger Patrick Kelly February 23, 2018 2:03 PM  

"Nothing Nate says in this area is worth listening to."

His taste in firearms, Bourbon and music is usually pretty good.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 23, 2018 2:04 PM  

@62 Peaceful Poster
I could go on but, for me, the most important thing he's done is boost the morale of those of us on the right, if not the entire nation.
---

That's true same here.

Blogger Kettle February 23, 2018 2:04 PM  

#7139 wrote: ...the County Sheriff and School Superintendent are trying to hide their corrupt scheme...

If this is true, burn them at the stake with unquenchable fire.


Thermite would work nicely, cant be extinguished with water.

Blogger Patrick Kelly February 23, 2018 2:05 PM  

"Nothing Nate says in this area is worth listening to."

His taste in firearms, Bourbon and music is usually pretty good.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 23, 2018 2:06 PM  

@66 Looking Glass
Since this will tie into DWS, local voter fraud and the Awans, there's a lot more going on with this can people realize.
---

Ah is that where this is? I remember someone investigating DWS being found dead on a beach there.

Blogger Were-Puppy February 23, 2018 2:09 PM  

Back on topic, found this article today about the FBI grooming a mentally ill kid - parents found out and raising hell about it .

http://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/psychological-operations/parents-catch-fbi-plot-force-mentally-ill-son-right-wing-terrorist/

Blogger Koanic February 23, 2018 2:14 PM  

Trump's observable modus operandi:

Humans are very good at recognizing one movement, physically and socially.

Overwhelm that capacity with multiple, conflicting motions, and you can reposition an unwilling person without them mounting an effective resistance.

Disrupt the static defense with dynamism. The r-herd requires a focus in order to school. Confuse the swarm and the predators can start devouring the isolated.

Exceed their attention span, exceed their time preference, and make them pay for their overreactions to your feints.

Blogger LP999-16 February 23, 2018 2:23 PM  

Not surprised.

This pairs well with today Daily Meme War.

I retract any statement made regarding upping the age to own, the 2nd amendment is the 2nd amendment, we have always had guns we never experienced such national societal decline and its not the fault of guns.

Also utterly alarming and brainwashing (for dumber people that seriously believe CNN) was the handpicked 3 to 4 kids on CNN with scripted questions slighted to their agenda.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 2:27 PM  

77. Noah B The Savage Gardener

Sure on one level he is a cockfight organizer, but, not the full truth. Trump uses symbols, all sorts of symbols, used by the NWO to signal each other as to who they are, and what is their status within their interwoven cults.

Some time back with the bottle water drinking incident, the God Emperor was willing to look silly to signal that he knew about Fiji Water and the Island of Fiji as a child sex trafficking center, and he was going to "swallow," meaning destroy them.

There have been many thousands of pedo and sex trafficking arrests made with no fanfare, BTW. This has not happened with any other president. Some of the "accidents" to people involved such as a helicopter crash with several SW HollyWood Hotel managers were caused by the Bad Guys getting rid of people who knew too much. That Hotel was a major trafficker of underage girls, children, and drugs, and Adam Schiff is likely involved with that and other corrupt children's organizations. He calls, Adam schiff, Liddle Adam after Liddle Kidz, a trafficker of children.

PDJT is shutting down child trafficking.


Blogger LP999-16 February 23, 2018 2:31 PM  

84 It has been wonderful, wonderful since 2016, I'm still elated.

Geotus is also upsetting CPAC today, furthering upsetting the already mostly burned out from losing media.

Video game shaming is wrong, NIOH DLC Par-Tay!

Blogger Brick Hardslab February 23, 2018 2:36 PM  

If the details about the Broward Co evidence room is true it is huge. They've boned every case that's come through that evidence room. It takes meticulously followed procedures with proper documentation to get an evidence room certified. At least in my state. I cannot imagine the standards are that much different in any state.

That means any case that depends on the evidence in those lockers/rooms is toast. The defense will have a field day with it. Any stolen property that was entered improperly...just wait until a lawyer can start pulling on that thread.

If we see that happening we'll know they were deep into shady territory. This is something the FBI/DOJ should actually be investigating.

Blogger YIH February 23, 2018 3:04 PM  

Howard Stone wrote:CNN et all must have a live shooter response team. As soon as reports go out the team goes to work. I wonder who their go to screen printer is.
Yes and no, CNN has affiliates with every TV market. Being near to the story they get deployed first - and often that local TV (and radio) station is their 'go-to' for continuing coverage. Examples in Casey Anthony and the Zimmerman circus. WFTV (and on radio WDBO) did nearly all the coverage of both for CNN.
That frees up the big names to read from the script... And make sure the little people stick to it.

Blogger Matthew February 23, 2018 3:11 PM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:"Nothing Nate says in this area is worth listening to."

His taste in firearms, Bourbon and music is usually pretty good.


Yes, Nate is worth listening to on areas where he's not deranged.

Blogger S. Thermite February 23, 2018 3:16 PM  

Thermite would work nicely...

+1

Blogger LP999-16 February 23, 2018 3:23 PM  

The shooter circle never hospitalized Cruz for cutting himself nearly 2 years ago prior to the mothers death, Peterson knew about this shooter and his antics or pleas for help, the family, the police never arrested him for placing a gun to someones head - let alone answered any calls to the FBI from legitimate tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ4Ce_diclI

How did this 19 yr old enter the country, was he born here, where is he from, where was he born? Forget the gun witch hunt when countless agencies failed to prevent all this, Peterson to the police did nothing.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 23, 2018 3:23 PM  

Matthew wrote:Nate is worth listening to on areas where he's not deranged.
I only wish that were true of more people here.

Blogger mgh February 23, 2018 3:52 PM  

That Runcie dude looks like Frozone from The Incredibles. Gotta be meme material.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2018 3:59 PM  

Nate, you're breaking down like Kratman did over civic nationalism. Pull back for a second and think.

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 4:02 PM  

"I only wish that were true of more people here."

The best people are driven out by people who call others "morons" habitually. Why would anyone want to get entangled with a "deranged" person?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2018 4:07 PM  

When in doubt, pull back and just watch for a while until you're sure you've got your bearings.

Blogger McChuck February 23, 2018 4:12 PM  

"Johnny Bravo" is probably a fake. Air Force doesn't give oak leaf clusters to marksmanship badges. Claims to be both combat crewman (Doesn't name the kind of plane - and it's called air crew) and combat controller - two very different jobs. Claims to have trained in the Air Force with the .40 pistol - which wasn't invented until years after he ended his service. Claims to have an SCI clearance - which no school teacher or administrator would have. (Combat controllers would - but even if so, it would have expired in 1983.)

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2018 4:16 PM  

"The best people are driven out by people who call others "morons" habitually."

Meh. Anyone who leaves something worthwhile after being called a moron once or twice is pretty fragile.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2018 4:18 PM  

Anno Ruse wrote:The best people are driven out by people who call others "morons" habitually. Why would anyone want to get entangled with a "deranged" person?

If Nate is bothering you, distract him by asking him about his favorite Glock.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2018 4:33 PM  

"his favorite Glock."

Heh.

Blogger Dave February 23, 2018 4:44 PM  

Starting to look like the old Nate is back after a bout with the flu. You didn't get a flu shot did ya Nate? Not you, Nate, please not you.

The Nate is fine.

Blogger Sambuca Ford February 23, 2018 4:51 PM  

Ex-Dolphin and still mentally unstable child Jonathan Martin has weighed in on the subject. Predictably. #Incog-neato!

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 4:59 PM  

@ tuberman

You need to get your sarcasm filter checked. That one blew right over your head. I suggest you watch the Bogart movie Casablanca again to see the reference.

And please don't mention that coward "Sundance" to me. He banned me for a very mild criticism of Trump when he bombed a Syrian government airbase in response to a chemical weapons attack that Syria never did. Many were giving my comment "likes" and that went on for two weeks after I was banned. No warning. No reason. He was not even man enough to admit he did it and tell why.

Vox Day on the other hand, will warn people and if he bans them he will tell everyone why. You know, like a man.

It is his (sundance) site of course and he can hide from people all he wants. But, please, don't mention that fellow to me.

Blogger Anno Ruse February 23, 2018 5:06 PM  

Sundance strikes me as the kind of guy to let his wife moderate his comments, then he can't undo her wacky decisions. Good site though.

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 5:11 PM  

Has anybody talked about what was going on at that school? What was life there like? If the administration is that corrupt, then there's more to this than just coziness between the school admin and the police. For example, what could a teacher get away with? Just what was the extent of the wilful police "blindness"?

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 5:17 PM  

Vox, could you please mark your twitter links as such? It's annoying to get slammed in the face by the silly bird login screen.

Blogger Dave February 23, 2018 5:21 PM  

Hillary off her meds, tries to drive into the WH:

http://www.krmg.com/news/national-govt--politics/white-house-locked-down-after-vehicle-strikes-barrier/zvY9vUuD5OJEqQRQ3WN7tN/

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 5:28 PM  

Sidehill Dodger,

Sounds like /pol and Chan could dig up some real juicy stuff at Douglas HS.

Blogger Silly but True February 23, 2018 5:29 PM  

Jeff Sessions hates DoJ Consent Decrees imposed on municipalities and police departments.

I'm sure he could find it in his heart for a couple of exceptions.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 5:34 PM  

107. markstoval

I'm very aware of the hair-triggered banning by Sundance's AdMen. Seems some of the "regulars rat people out on that site. I seldom post there, and do not get many likes when I do, except occasionally when I'm a bit syrupy (not often), but Sundance himself has extremely useful info despite the total Civic Nationalist take. Some of the old timers there are worth taking a look at for extra info, but most there are at the Rush Limppaw stage, but less globalist.

The detailed information by Sundance himself is worth looking at for me, and I often skip or just read a few comments by those I think have grown a bit. Sometimes it worth looking at to see what chan Memes are showing up, or sort of a public growth watch site.

I use to go out on various EU alt-right sites in English but lost track of them. I use to even check out T. Wictor, but he got so Jewishly absurd, I couldn't stand him, even for the insights he supplied.

I somewhat like Dilley of the Dilley Drops, but his version of Life Coaching is not as good as Cerno's , and I find it somewhat annoying. I'd vote for him though if I was in his district.

My point is, I have a problem with many that I follow, and 8chan is just chaos, but it's possible to figure out some of the best are very sharp, and disciplined. I get past my small irritations and try to reach for some truth.

I try to be anti-fragile as long as there is anything to learn.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 5:45 PM  

Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Sidehill Dodger,

Sounds like /pol and Chan could dig up some real juicy stuff at Douglas HS.


Yes, they've discovered a lot, and I think it's a long way from over, the whole Broward County anti-gun thing is going to backfire worse than anything yet for the Left.

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 6:01 PM  

114. tuberman

I find that don't need any one site for information. I have been banned two times since the internet came into existence. Once by "sundance" and once by Glenn Greenwald. At least Glenn warned me that answering back to his pet lefties would get me banned at Salon. (no big loss there)

So, you read anyplace you want and I will do the same. I just asked nicely that you never mention that man or his site to me. I would hope you would be so polite.

Blogger David of One February 23, 2018 6:04 PM  

It is now being reported that there were FOUR armed deputies that didn't go into the school during the attack of the children at the school ... http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/23/report-four-sheriff-scott-israels-deputies-waited-outside-douglas-high-school-shooting/

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother February 23, 2018 6:12 PM  

Markstoval, you're barking up the wrong tree, asking someone here not to mention someone to you.

Blogger Noah B The Savage Gardener February 23, 2018 6:13 PM  

Why don't they just go ahead and admit that the FBI gave Cruz the gun, loaded the mags, and chambered a round for him as part of a failed sting?

Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 6:18 PM  

@ Stg58/Animal Mother

Well, it does not matter anyway. I doubt that he will write to me specifically much anyway. At least he knows now that that site is not evidence of a damn thing to me personally. I don't care if the rest of you talk about it all day. I am really hard to upset.

But I think you are wrong on one count. The people at Vox Day's place (not the trolls) are often as polite as Vox Day himself. Not weak, mind you, but polite. Many follow Vox's example.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 6:29 PM  

Actually, I've been banned on three sites, did not care much about any of them, and the site with-no-name threatened me once, but I turned it around...see I was warned, 'cause special snowflake.My favorite site banned from was Radix for insulting all those guys that said Blacks were getting all the girls. I said, "What, don't the ladies, go out of their way to do ya favors, and cook meals for ya and such?" Made them angry, but I wasn't kidding. And, I am certainly not Alpha. Got banned there for suggesting the Retards were still boys.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2018 6:38 PM  

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Anonymous Anonymous February 23, 2018 6:40 PM  

@ tuberman

I'll stop now before we piss other people off by being so off topic. I'll just say -- nice talking to you and hope you have a good time on all your sites.

See ya around.

~ Mark

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 23, 2018 8:14 PM  

markstoval wrote:I have been banned two times since the internet came into existence.
What a bunch of slackers! I've been banned from all the best websites. Dozens, probably not quite an hundred.
Surely you can get kicked out of Mark Shea's little love fest, at least. Try harder!

Blogger Cetera February 23, 2018 10:13 PM  

Nate wrote:We got a completely par-for-the-course GOP tax cut bill that would've been passed and supported by any generic republican..

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

No, wait, that isn't enough...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

LOL

Lulz

*wheeze*

Trump was able to push through the lowest corporate tax rate this country has had in 80 years. A 21% corporate tax rate hasn't been observed in this country since prior to 1940, and never in the history of the U.S. has the corporate tax rate been cut so much in one attempt.

So, genericic Republican time. Who would have wanted such a thing, or gone along with such a thing, or could have even accomplished such thing?

The only possible answer in any of our lifetimes is Ronald Reagan. In the last 30 years, we've had a total of 12 years of GOP Presidency in the last 30.

Did Papa Bush do it? No. Would he have done it? No. Could he have done it? No.

GW, then. Did he? No. Would he? No. Could he? No. He did give us some individual tax rate cuts, which Trump has surpassed, in his first go.

Ronaldus Magnus, the Great Conservative, was a pretty good guy. He got a lot of shit done, and made a lot of mistakes doing it. Trump is making some mistakes too, but so far appears far more competent than even Reagan.

As for the generic GOP thing, get over it. No one in the GOP outside of Reagan, IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE, has even come close to your "generic republican tax cuts" that Trump has done, and or done it with more opposition at the time.

If we're talking a once-in-a-lifetime Republican, sure. A once-in-a-century Republican, OK. But generic Republican? Might be time to have some honest self-assessment and calibrate your viewpoints.

Blogger Cetera February 23, 2018 10:17 PM  

Anno Ruse wrote:Sundance strikes me as the kind of guy to let his wife moderate his comments, then he can't undo her wacky decisions. Good site though.

He has a full-time job. He produces all that volume and research on his blog in his spare time. He does exactly zero comment moderating. His moderating team is 100% women, all volunteers, and I believe 100% boomers. They are people he knows personally. He doesn't have time to interact with commenters much, and pretty much lets the mods do their job. Their job is to prevent anything overly embarrasing to the site remain, and keep most of the trolls out. They do a pretty good job, all things considered.

It is a much different discussion setting than here.

Blogger Thucydides February 23, 2018 10:25 PM  

So essentially the opposite of the theory of "Broken Windows" policing happened, with the inevitable results.

Blogger Dire Badger February 24, 2018 12:27 AM  

Noah B The Savage Gardener wrote:You moron. He has been pounding the bump stock thing for days. It didn't just pop into his head. No one was talking about bump stocks until he brought it up.

Our pals in the NRA leadership were the ones who floated the idea of a bump stock ban after Las Vegas. (Thanks assholes.)

Koanic's comparison of Trump to a cockfight organizer is fitting, and Trump has already pivoted away from gun control to proposing that we arm teachers.


Dude, bump stocks are a joke. They are a toy of amateurs that don't mind wrecking their guns or encouraging a misfire that can cost you your weapon, your fingers, your face, or your life. If you are using a weapon designed to be fired semiauto, you get MAYBE a dozen faster shots out of it... for a weapon designed to be fired automatic or burst, there are VASTLY superior methods to restore that capability.

NRA welcoming a bump-stock ban is like the national marijuana council agreeing to Ban potato bongs... it let the few wavering idiots think Trump was on their 'common sense' side, while refusing to actually screw over gun owners.

Blogger matism February 26, 2018 9:15 AM  


Good ol' Governor Scott had no problems removing Sheriff Finch a few years ago:
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/florida-governor-has-sheriff-arrested-removed-from-office-for-allowing-concealed-carry/46644 But he won't touch Sheriff Israel. Scott is just another filthy piece of Koch-sucking Rove Republican swill. If he had any honor whatsoever, he would remove Sheriff Israel immediately, and would send the Florida Department of Law Enforcement down there to investigate the policies and procedures which led to these murders. And he would also have them investigate the Miami-Dade policies and procedures, because Broward merely adopted those for its Sheriff's office. But instead, good ol' Rick will let them "investigate" themselves. The stench is overwhelming.

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