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Friday, March 23, 2018

Conservatives have HAD IT

It's always so cute when conservatives discover the existence of the bi-factional ruling party and threaten to stop voting for Republicans. Jesse Kelly is very upset about the passage of the omnibus spending bill on Twitter:
This is the first time I've thought the GOP will lose the House in the midterms. If Trump signs this #omnibus bill, we're through. I suspect Trump does not realize how many people have tolerated his antics solely because he was doing conservative things.

Think about this: Obama gets elected in 08. Embarrasses himself and scares the American public into going HEAVY Republican for 6 straight years. We own everything.

Annnnnnd the GOP responds by doing all the same things Obama did. There is one party in DC. It's the "screw the peasants" party. And I've had about enough of it. That's all.
First, who cares? Since Republicans are part of the bifactional ruling party, as I repeatedly observed more than 10 years ago, why be at all concerned about them retaining power? I'm not. They are part of the problem, not the solution.

Second, perhaps Trump will veto the bill. He certainly should, although he may have more pressing concerns on his agenda at the moment.

Third, this is a conventional political analysis. It doesn't even begin to account for the possible fallout from the God-Emperor's ongoing war against the Deep State, which is the most significant factor by far. Due to the potential for tremendous and unexpected consequences from that, don't put too much credence in the conventional analyses of the midterm elections.

Stay cool, stay calm, have confidence in the God-Emperor, and wait to see what happens. The Deep State is trying to break him. They may, but at this point, I think it is more likely that he will break them.
Consider. To cut through the Russophobia rampant here, Trump decided to make a direct phone call to Vladimir Putin. And in that call, Trump, like Angela Merkel, congratulated Putin on his re-election victory.

Instantly, the briefing paper for the president’s call was leaked to the Post. In bold letters it read, “DO NOT CONGRATULATE.”

Whereupon, the Beltway went ballistic.

How could Trump congratulate Putin, whose election was a sham? Why did he not charge Putin with the Salisbury poisoning? Why did Trump not denounce Putin for interfering with “our democracy”?

Amazing. A disloyal White House staffer betrays his trust and leaks a confidential paper to sabotage the foreign policy of a duly elected president, and he is celebrated in this capital city.

If you wish to see the deep state at work, this is it: anti-Trump journalists using First Amendment immunities to collude with and cover up the identities of bureaucratic snakes out to damage or destroy a president they despise.
UPDATE: There we go. Don't consider, DO IT! This is not that hard. Build the Wall and Drain the Swamp. If it doesn't do either of those things, veto it.

I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded. 
- Donald J. Trump@realDonaldTrump

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77 Comments:

Blogger Meistergedanken March 23, 2018 8:28 AM  

"...why be at all concerned about them retaining power? "

Maybe because if the Democrats ever take back congress one of the first things they will do will be to impeach Trump?

Blogger VD March 23, 2018 8:29 AM  

Maybe because if the Democrats ever take back congress one of the first things they will do will be to impeach Trump?

So what? The Senate won't convict.

Blogger The Deuce March 23, 2018 8:30 AM  

I'm not going to lie about being pissed at this, not at the Republicans who I expect to be snakes, but at Trump for selling this turd as a good deal when it specifically forbids funding for concrete in the wall and fully funds sanctuary cities. It's the first thing he's done that I really think of as a betrayal.

At the very least, he can veto the bill and call the Republican leadership out publicly, and then draw the public's attention to it when they team up with Democrats to override the veto. Sure, he ends up with the same bill anyhow, but at least he makes the swamp rats pay for it and increases the chances of a more cooperative Republican party after the midterms.

Blogger Desdichado March 23, 2018 8:35 AM  

Wow, the OP mentioned twitter commentator is really observant. The fact that the Republicans were part of the liberal uniparty was obvious in 1964 when George Romney swamp-thinged the candidacy of Barry Goldwater.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2018 8:37 AM  

Need 66 votes to convict in the senate. Never gonna happen.

OpenID winstonwebb March 23, 2018 8:38 AM  

if the Democrats ever take back congress one of the first things they will do will be to impeach Trump
Good!
Let's have the fight out in the open for once.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville March 23, 2018 8:47 AM  

Once the OIG report and indictments come out there will be a glorious congressional paralysis, a few suddenly open seats, and a wide-open mid-term.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 23, 2018 9:01 AM  

This is the wildest thing:

"Third, this is a conventional political analysis. It doesn't even begin to account for the possible fallout from the God-Emperor's ongoing war against the Deep State, which is the most significant factor by far. Due to the potential for tremendous and unexpected consequences from that, don't put too much credence in the conventional analyses of the midterm elections."

If all the Q claims are real and if the speculation regarding IG Horowitz's report turn out to be true, one can reasonably entertain the idea that the Democratic Party as we know it may cease to exist.

There is a precedent for this, the Hartford Convention of 1814. After the convention, the Federalists were viewed as the party of treason and secession. In the 1816 elections, Democratic-Republicans (Jeffersonians) used this association go great effectiveness and eventually, the Federalist Party collapsed and died. The Democratic-Republicans would dominate politics in the aftermath in a period known as "The Era of Good Feelings".

Given this historic precedent, it's quite reasonable to hold out hope that the damage done by Uniparty and the Far Left (via Obama) will be reversed.

Blogger Nathan Bruno March 23, 2018 9:09 AM  

We are prepared and expect that they'll try impeachment. Look, the Democrats are happy to do it to get some sort of equation with Bill Clinton. The problem is weak-kneed Repukes who run their mouths about impeachment; they don't deserve the be in a position to make legislation.

As it comes to the guidance from his staff, the local news here reported it as, "President Trump did not listen to direction from his staff." I wondered when they would understand - he's the boss; he doesn't take direction from them; he can fire anyone in the executive branch at any time, because he is actually president.

Blogger Ceerilan March 23, 2018 9:12 AM  

The press likes to pretend that the first amendment applies only to them. It doesn't. It applies to all citizens equally.

Blogger Andrew March 23, 2018 9:14 AM  

My understanding is that there will be a wall system which will include a 20-ft metal barrier on the border (this is what is already there in places and what was funded in this bill), then a 150 ft. gap with an access road for border patrol, then the 30+ ft wall for which the prototypes were built. Trump is using this bill to get started where he can but he needs a plan to get the rest. I still don't understand why he doesn't just take charge as commander-in-chief and order the military to build the wall on national security grounds. That's what the military is for, to erect barriers to protect nations. He wouldn't lose a single vote over it and would gain many for himself and his party.

Blogger Jack Aubrey March 23, 2018 9:14 AM  

And true to form, the GE just tweeted that he is considering vetoing the bill. Art of the deal!

Blogger D. March 23, 2018 9:17 AM  


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
22m22 minutes ago

I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 23, 2018 9:18 AM  

The DACA part is troll level 1000!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2018 9:20 AM  

My WAG is I assume the real strategic goal is to remove Chinese influence in DC.

Blogger GPMark March 23, 2018 9:21 AM  

@2:

Convicted? No, no never convicted...

Blogger Robert Divinity March 23, 2018 9:27 AM  

The GE knew full well what a humiliation the omnibus bill was on the issue of immigration, the primary reason he was elected. Trump is about to make the cucks his bitches.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 23, 2018 9:34 AM  

8ch was losing their collective shit last night by looking at the details of the $1.6B funding for bollards on existing portions of the current border wall. So much butthurt espoused in light of this morning’s tweet from the God Emperor.

Vox was right to call the Uniparty out on this. People can’t keep applying the “conventional” wisdom on how politicians act. Can it be any clearer that Trump is putting the recent iteration of this trope into its rightful grave? The man is literally handing the Congresscritters the rope with which they’re easily hanging themselves!

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 23, 2018 9:37 AM  

So he vetoes it so what, my recollection there has not been a budget for a decade and no one cares. Are the sub 90IQ Democratic voters suddenly going to be put on streets to protest at the behest of crazy old white lady Nancy, and would anyone else care?

So he vetoes it, Deep State and its idiot media goes ballistic Trump points to the Shumer tunnel but no Wall, no DACA, Gun Control funding and I give Deep State a day before they buckle.

OpenID het1 March 23, 2018 9:37 AM  

"They've got a set of Republican waiters on one side and a set of Democratic waiters on the other side, but no matter which set of waiters brings you the dish, the legislative grub is all prepared in the same Wall Street kitchen"
"The only difference I have found between Republicans and Democrats in Congress was that first want to rip off our skin from ankles to neck, and second - from neck to ankles" (Huey Long)

Blogger James Dixon March 23, 2018 9:37 AM  

> So what? The Senate won't convict.

And if they do, round two starts a bit earlier than anticipated.

> And true to form, the GE just tweeted that he is considering vetoing the bill. Art of the deal!

I've emailed the White House encouraging him to do so. Yeah, it's probably wasted time, but he needs to know how many of us support him.

Blogger Lazarus March 23, 2018 9:46 AM  

I still don't understand why he doesn't just take charge as commander-in-chief and order the military to build the wall on national security grounds.

That is still an option. If things go as far as military tribunals, the stage for such a thing would have been set.

All those people that screamed and cried in horror on the election of GE Trump will be writhing on the ground in spasms and foaming at the mouth.

I can hardly wait.

Blogger Crew March 23, 2018 9:46 AM  

All I can say is: President Trump must read this blog!

Blogger Rory March 23, 2018 9:55 AM  

The Senate wouldn't convict Trump, but it's still an annoyance, right? Like the Mueller probe, it'd slow him down and divert energy. Not a tragedy, especially with a guy who has energy to spare, but something I think we'd rather not see.

Then again, as James points out, it pushes the envelope. It might be pretty exciting, in that it would energise the whole meta-fight going on here. Weren't we just recently complaining about complacency? Trump with his back up to the wall is when he's most nimble.

Blogger Andrew March 23, 2018 9:55 AM  

That is still an option. If things go as far as military tribunals, the stage for such a thing would have been set.

And yet Trump keeps offering (or trolling) to trade the Wall for DACA even though he doesn't need to give anything up to get the Wall. Why? Because he WANTS to amnesty the DACA Nightmares. He thinks it's the right thing to do. So he's really getting two things he wants rather than this for that.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 23, 2018 9:56 AM  

"Chess" is a dishonest analogy. What Trump is doing is playing a long game on an multi-dimensional battlefield that is narrated by enemy propagandists.

By now it is obvious that he is basing appointments on specific situational skill sets rather than ideological conformity. Cohn is a purported tax wizard, so he is there to craft tax policy. When that is no longer needed, he can take the rest of his globalist road show elsewhere. Trump makes mistakes, but he learns quickly, and given the information fog, it is hard to determine what skills, and for what purpose a choice is made.

Bolton will no more set foreign policy than Cohn did trade. My guess is that he is there because Trump perceives he is not swamp, won't leak, follows orders, is reasonably patriotic, and will execute hard decisions. Time will tell if he's right, but "OMG, Trump's going neocon!" is either dishonest or retarded. Maybe both.

@ 8. Al From Bay Shore

"If all the Q claims are real and if the speculation regarding IG Horowitz's report turn out to be true, one can reasonably entertain the idea that the Democratic Party as we know it may cease to exist."

This is the path to victory. The new team he is assembling makes it seem more possible than a few months ago. The long game.

Blogger freddie_mac March 23, 2018 9:58 AM  

crossing my fingers that POTUS does indeed veto this monstrosity. True, Congress can override, but forcing them into the position where they need to do that? Also, a veto shows that he won't roll over for them.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 23, 2018 10:01 AM  

DACA is amazing trolling (I didn't see that coming), because it is so smart. He knows how unpopular it is in general, and how much of a wedge it is in the Dem's unholy alliance. The swamp loves to keep it in reserve, as a rhetorical lever, and Trump is forcing them to own it. It is radioactive in the short term, and long-term, it gets DACA off the table.

As an aside, Trump may actually be the only politician in this debate that actually cares about the "Dreamers" on an individual human level.

Blogger Johnny March 23, 2018 10:01 AM  

The problem with wanting responsable federal spending as a priority item is that what you get is no spending on your stuff. Thus politically trying to reduce spending works out poorly.So, away we go, lots of spending. It will be a tough slog if it happens, but maybe going broke is the only workable outcome.

Blogger James Dixon March 23, 2018 10:09 AM  

> True, Congress can override,

It's a theoretical possibility, but Trump's veto would embolden the remaining Tea Party folks to oppose the bill and thus the likelihood of their successfully overriding the veto is somewhere between slim and none.

Blogger Dave March 23, 2018 10:11 AM  

Trump trolling twits on twitter. Terrific.

Blogger James Dixon March 23, 2018 10:12 AM  

> The problem with wanting responsable federal spending as a priority item is that what you get is no spending on your stuff.

If you an average taxpayer, your "stuff" from the federal government is non-existent. The only programs that will affect you are Social Security and Medicare.

Blogger Bob March 23, 2018 10:14 AM  

Hello, y'all! Please help me, the uninformed, to identify the "disloyal White House staffer who betrayed his trust and leaked a confidential paper to sabotage the foreign policy of a duly elected president." - as referred to by Pat Buchanan in his essay. THANK YOU!

Blogger tuberman March 23, 2018 10:15 AM  

26 UJB

"By now it is obvious that he is basing appointments on specific situational skill sets rather than ideological conformity."

Which is exactly what he said he'd do on the way to getting elected.

Blogger Lazarus March 23, 2018 10:23 AM  

@33

McMaster or one of his team. It was probably a sting operation.

Blogger Nate March 23, 2018 10:24 AM  

At this point Trump should just veto everything that comes to his desk until they fund the wall. No bills get signed until you fund the wall. Period. No bills of any kind.

Blogger dienw March 23, 2018 10:27 AM  

Re the Uniparty and pre-1828: a pattern?
From approximately 1792 to 1828 the Democratic-Republican Party existed as the opposition to the Federalists; when the D-R party broke apart in 1828 because of internal differences the Democratic and Republican parties were formed in its stead; now, was that division planned by the elites then in power and is that a pattern that will be used again: I have read some articles that a key plan by the hidden elites is to destroy the republican party - it is being shown as unnecessary as it simply rubber stamps the Left/Democrat agenda anyway- and have the Democratic Party divide into two parties Communist and (national) Socialist; thereby giving the voters two new Hegelian posts between which they are to choose; this of course would have been the long game: Buckley was used to drive out the John Birch true conservatives and make room for the Neo-cons; the latter taking over the Conservative movement and driving out the "paleo-conservatives" in its turn; now, Trump is effectively destroying the Republican party which refuses to side with the American citizens who voted him into office and their agenda; will the Center-left Republicans fold into the new Socialist Party leaving the choice of voting conservative or as Christian untenable?

Blogger dh March 23, 2018 10:27 AM  

> If you an average taxpayer, your "stuff" from the federal government is non-existent. The only programs that will affect you are Social Security and Medicare.

Yup, the problem with the 'shutdowns' are they are nothing of the sort. They spend more money 'shutting down' then actually shutting down.

I would enjoy an actual shutdown. Phone calls that went nowhere. No one putting up barricades or actually doing anything. No checks, no direct deposits, no enforcement, no Courts, no FBI, nothing at all happening.

The government at all levels - the real government - is terrified that if they allowed this people would come to learn what they all know in their hearts. Life will go on. People who used to self-govern themselves can once again learn to self-govern, and do so rapidly. A thousand thousand paper pushers in DC were never supposed to be the government.

Blogger Jack Amok March 23, 2018 10:32 AM  

Third, this is a conventional political analysis. It doesn't even begin to account for the possible fallout from the God-Emperor's ongoing war against the Deep State, which is the most significant factor by far.

I do find it amusing that people still care about the budget. Makes me want to say "how quaint." Yes, in reality deficit spending matters, but it's been decades since we had politicians who consistently gave a damn. Until we drain the swamp, we can expect deficits. Deficits are downstream of the swamp, so to speak.

Blogger Lazarus March 23, 2018 10:46 AM  

- and have the Democratic Party divide into two parties Communist and (national) Socialist;

That was the pattern the PTB used in Germany in the thirties, why not here?

Blogger Ken Prescott March 23, 2018 10:49 AM  

I still don't understand why he doesn't just take charge as commander-in-chief and order the military to build the wall on national security grounds.

Because under the Constitution, Congress has sole power of the purse. They must appropriate funds and authorize their expenditure for any given purpose. The President doesn't have a magic wand labeled "national security" that lets him do otherwise.

Blogger Uncle John's Band March 23, 2018 10:58 AM  

37. dienw

Re the Uniparty and pre-1828: a pattern?

This is what makes Trump such a black swan. An unabashed nationalist in the presidency raises the possibility, really for the first time, of all the uniparty metastases being wiped out by an American party.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 23, 2018 10:59 AM  

Using the massive funds already appropriated for defense to build the wall on national security grounds sounds cool.

Blogger Timmy3 March 23, 2018 11:01 AM  

The omnibus fully funds Planned Parenthood and has Immigrant Worker Visa quota increases. It’s much more than a distraction that could be ignored. It’s a win for the Democrats and RINOs.

Blogger Andrew March 23, 2018 11:02 AM  

Because under the Constitution, Congress has sole power of the purse. They must appropriate funds and authorize their expenditure for any given purpose. The President doesn't have a magic wand labeled "national security" that lets him do otherwise.

Congress has appropriated plenty of money to DOD. Just re-direct teeny, tiny portion of the massive defense budget to the Army Corps of Engineers and get on with it.

Blogger David The Good March 23, 2018 11:03 AM  

Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall.

Blogger freddie_mac March 23, 2018 11:05 AM  

@41 Ken Prescott
The President doesn't have a magic wand labeled "national security" that lets him do otherwise.

Surely the Pentagon has funds that have been authorized for "team-building" and "training exercises." What's more "team-building" than having the military build full-size barricades? Doesn't the military need to learn how to do that as part of their training?

Blogger Andrew March 23, 2018 11:07 AM  

Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall.

When Trump withdraws from or re-negotiates NAFTA Mexico will lose its $50 billion annual trade surplus with the US. That's enough to pay for three Walls every year.

Blogger Timmy3 March 23, 2018 11:10 AM  

Congress can prevent Trump from using that money for the wall.

Blogger Patrick Kelly March 23, 2018 11:18 AM  

Trump is commander in chief. He can order the military to use whatever funds already available to do whatever he wants. He could order them to build the wall. He doesn't have to legislate or appropriate anything to do that.

Congress could try to impeach him for doing so, but they can't stop him from doing it.

Blogger Patrick Kelly March 23, 2018 11:19 AM  

"At this point Trump should just veto everything that comes to his desk until they fund the wall. No bills get signed until you fund the wall. Period. No bills of any kind."

Or that.

OpenID biggaystevec March 23, 2018 11:20 AM  

Couldn't find my old livejournal account so I made a new one. If you want me to post under a different name let me know

""...why be at all concerned about them retaining power? "

Even with republican control there is a 2 prong attack on little girls bathrooms in public schools & still fighting MilTranny all articles from past week.

By law http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/03/21/snda-reintroduced-as-trump-administration-declines-to-help-trans-students/

By surpreme court title VII http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/03/15/opinion-title-vii-gay-agenda/

Other court http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/03/22/judge-orders-trump-turn-names-consulted-experts-trans-military-ban/



OT:Game of CLUE for current year

Wetback "Obama champion of change" 2015 award winner
kills Wetback gay Cuban couple
at FL college
with a 5 day old bridge
http://www.washingtonblade.com/2018/03/22/gay-cuban-couple-among-miami-bridge-collapse-victims/

Blogger Salt March 23, 2018 11:21 AM  

Patrick Kelly wrote:Trump is commander in chief. He can order the military ... to build the wall.

No, he can't. Most of that land is not Federal land. There's a little problem called Eminent Domain and the taking clause.

Blogger Lance E March 23, 2018 11:23 AM  

@49

Trump does not need Congress's permission to build the wall, regardless of funding. That is simply a lie. The wall is a national security function, and Congress does not have the constitutional right to directly manage national security functions. He can simply toss it into the $700 billion military bucket.

I know - the Constitution is dead. It's all about power now. So Trump could just ignore what Congress has to say and build the wall anyway. Dare them to retaliate or try to impeach him for doing what an overwhelming majority of Americans want him to do. With Trump at 50% approval and Congress at <10% approval, what would happen?

Blogger Lance E March 23, 2018 11:25 AM  

@53

So declare war and build it 30 feet behind the Mexican border. I'm not even kidding. What are they going to do?

If America can do "nation-building" in the middle east, it can do wall-building in Mexico.

Blogger Patrick Kelly March 23, 2018 11:41 AM  

Presidents have ordered the military to do "unconstitutional" things throughout US history. So far no congress has had the ballz or motivation to impeach any of them for doing so. Andrew Jackson told the SC to foff and there was nothing they could do about it, and congress chose to ignore it.

What are they going to do, send the SC bailiff with a court order to stop him?

Blogger freddie_mac March 23, 2018 11:45 AM  

@53 Salt
Most of that land is not Federal land. There's a little problem called Eminent Domain and the taking clause.

Kelo involved the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another private owner, which was upheld (5-4) by the Supreme Court because the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified private redevelopment plans as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment.
https://infogalactic.com/info/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

So, like other amendments, the Fifth has also been hollowed out to mean what those in power say it should mean.

Blogger Cetera March 23, 2018 11:54 AM  

Lance E wrote:@53

So declare war and build it 30 feet behind the Mexican border. I'm not even kidding. What are they going to do?

If America can do "nation-building" in the middle east, it can do wall-building in Mexico.


Make Mexico America? Can't really add an "again" there, but I like it. Bring the troops home from all bases in Europe, encamp them in Mexico, build the wall, solve the drug and cartel problems. Win-win-win-win-win.

Blogger RobertT March 23, 2018 11:57 AM  

This is a very good analysis. Most people think too small. And most people just complain. This guy isn't going anywhere, he's just complaining. Trump doesn't care much about spending, as we've already seen. He does care about deep state, and every time he goes along with a liberal proposal, he takes a little bit of flesh out of Deep State. He's playing the long game. The integrity of the Republic is of more importance than debt. Winning the debt war isn't going to fix the Republic.

Blogger David The Good March 23, 2018 12:05 PM  

@biggaysteve

I thought you'd disappeared. Welcome back.

Blogger heyjames4 March 23, 2018 12:08 PM  

@53 Bullshit. Texas has a river. California has its own problems, but 90% of borderland from Yuma to El Paso is federal land of one sort or another. And others have pointed out that the world is past muh Constitution. https://blm-egis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6f0da4c7931440a8a80bfe20eddd7550

Blogger AnvilTiger March 23, 2018 12:44 PM  

Major issues with the bill: no sanctions against sanctuary cities, reduced funding for holding facilities for illegals, no additional funding for investigators of businesses that hire illegals, specific prohibitions against using any of the current wall designs for the actual 33 miles of new border "fencing", and plenty of funding for Democrat party wish list.

Problem: if Trump does NOT veto this bill, part of his base (the anti-illegal immigrant part) will stay away from the polls next November. The Democrats will take the House. He will never get any part of the anti-illegal immigrant agenda funded for the rest of his term (e.g. up to 2020). Failure to implement the anti-illegal immigrant agenda might sink Trump's reelection chances.

So regardless of battle against the deep state, and anything related to foreign policy, if there is no veto now the establishment will just dig and and wait him out, and the USA will continue to be flooded by illegals. This will either lead to civil war, or the USA will follow the path of the UK.

So pretty much veto now is required.

Blogger RobertT March 23, 2018 12:47 PM  

You will notice, Trump is threatening veto not because the bill includes too much spending, but because it doesn't include enough. My guess is he will veto it. He has taken away all Dem talking points. What are they going to complain about now? That he's a conflagrate spender? They thought they had him, but there are many worse things than shutting down the government. In fact, now that i think about it, most things are worse.

Blogger Joeplanet March 23, 2018 1:01 PM  

SemiSpook37 wrote:8ch was losing their collective shit last night by looking at the details of the $1.6B funding for bollards on existing portions of the current border wall. So much butthurt espoused in light of this morning’s tweet from the God Emperor."

One of the main reasons why they were losing their minds is because there is immense divergence from what they have been told by Q and what they are seeing on television with respect to Schumer and Pelosi (et al) ...

Q says Schumer had to use the White House bathroom he was so shaken by what he learned from the GE ... but then looks happy and right as rain when talking about the omnibus.

We all know not to fall for the laser pointer these days, that's for the resistance and the rubes.

But the optics of these snakes on TV have the chans wigging out.

Blogger The Deuce March 23, 2018 1:09 PM  

AnvilTiger wrote:Problem: if Trump does NOT veto this bill, part of his base (the anti-illegal immigrant part) will stay away from the polls next November.
That part of his base that is pretty much all of his base.

Blogger Wynn Lloyd March 23, 2018 1:09 PM  

That would be amazing. The Dems would cave eventually.

Blogger D. March 23, 2018 1:18 PM  


Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
46m46 minutes ago

News conference at the White House concerning the Omnibus Spending Bill. 1:00 P.M.

OpenID biggaystevec March 23, 2018 1:21 PM  

Chief Justice Thomas Saylor , PA Republican Supreme Court judge, chastises "own" party for wanting to impeach judges after gerrymandering in favor of shitlibs more than Democrats asked for.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/state/pennsylvania-supreme-court-chief-justice-impeachment-thomas-saylor-20180322.html

"I thought you'd disappeared"- I was just reading since anonymous posting went away. Still on gab VD probably wouldn't like the poll I posted related to above Philly article.

Blogger Guitar Man March 23, 2018 1:29 PM  

He's signing the bill. He's selecting neocons to the cabinet. Meet the new boss...

Blogger Cassandros the Elder March 23, 2018 1:31 PM  

GE: "I will never sign a bill like this again".

Blogger FP March 23, 2018 1:35 PM  

GE: "I will never sign a bill like this again".

Well, if rumors are true, the senate has said it won't take up a budget until next year. So he won't have to worry about signing a poison pill bill for the military funding again.

Blogger Feather Blade March 23, 2018 1:41 PM  

Nate wrote:At this point Trump should just veto everything that comes to his desk until they fund the wall. No bills get signed until you fund the wall. Period. No bills of any kind.

That's what Governor Kempthorne of Idaho did a bunch of years back, to get the state legislature to approve funding for improvements to the main highway between the north and south of the state.

It works.

Blogger Ray Mota March 23, 2018 2:04 PM  

Don’t know about you, but I have found the commenters on Vox Day among the best on the web – consistently.

Blogger Peaceful Poster March 23, 2018 2:39 PM  

I still trust Trump.

Blogger lannes March 23, 2018 5:05 PM  

"Perhaps Trump will veto the [spending] bill." Dream on.

Blogger Avalanche March 23, 2018 5:34 PM  

@46 "Mexico is supposed to pay for the wall.

At this point, I don't care: just BUILD the damned thing! We NEED border security more than we need less deficit spending (hell, we're farther in debt that can ever ever be paid off -- what's a couple billion more?!

And wanna bet if the God Emperor called -- a million or more folks would show up, trowels and cement stirrers in hand at the border, just ready to begin!

Blogger Dirk Manly March 23, 2018 5:49 PM  

@77

If the wall is built, Mexico will pay for it in lost remittances from their illegals who are here.

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